[FairfieldLife] Re: Spirituality Paradox Contradictions Spirituality All True
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, larry.potter larry.potter@ wrote: Learn to accept contradictions and don't be obsessed with your *truth*. Christine Breese has many amazing satsangs but I thought this short talk will be relevant/appreciated on this forum, many times people here will find themselves in such defensive situations that they feel they need to protect their truth no matter what. It's worth the 7 min to listen to it,imo. http://youtube.com/watch?v=MKf9CmNzpxY Enjoy. Interesting, but I also found it interesting that she didn't offer much justification for *why* she's saying what she's saying about becoming comfortable with contradiction. She did mention the mental body vs. the heart, but to me that's NewAgeSpeak. yes, I've notice that term, but I'm not sure that she is speaking as a NewAge guy, but maybe some of her audiance are such. most of her other talks are coming from the advaita teachings, my interpratation was that she was pointing to listen with your intuition, aka heart while leaving the contradiction on the leanear level as is, that way one can transcend the paradox or conflict and find his own truth. One additional point of information that can actually give some justification for her stance is in MMY's olde saying, Knowledge is different in different states of consciousness. Even *within* his system there are paradoxes, depending upon which state of consciousness he is speaking about, or from. The description of reality is different from the POV of waking state, or CC, or GC, or UC. Total contra- dictions. But very possibly all true. It seems to me that the attempt to claim that some- thing is true, and to actively get someone else to buy into that truth, is an attempt to get them to *share your state of consciousness*. yes, I was thinking exactly that verse when i heard her talk. Any appeal to others to believe something that is true only from the unenlightened waking state is, almost by definition, an appeal to these others to look at the situation *from* the POV of unenlight- ened waking state. If these others are looking at the situation from another state of consciousness, from the POV of, say, UC, then the situation as described by someone in the state of ignorance is *not* true, for them. But the folks who feel the need to *convince* these others that they know the truth often keep ham- mering away at the UC POV, telling it that it's wrong, and that they should look at things from the right POV. Which in this case, of course, is ignorance. yes it is applicable to different levels of consciousness, yet it can also be expanded to the different spiritual systems, meaning the different spiritul teachings that one finds them to contradict each other. If you need an example of this, look at Rory's recent post #140834. I thought that was a marvelous example of stepping back and expressing the same situation from a completely different POV and SOC, from which it looks entirely different. What *seems* true when looking at the situation from one POV is no longer true when looking at the same situation from another POV. Something to bear in mind when trying to claim that your POV is true. When you make that claim, aren't you *really* saying, *Mine* is the POV or SOC from which 'truth' is determined?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Spirituality Paradox Contradictions Spirituality All True
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: It seems to me that the attempt to claim that some- thing is true, and to actively get someone else to buy into that truth, is an attempt to get them to *share your state of consciousness*. If the discussion is not mataphysical, but rather is focussed on the dynamics of the everyday word, then I disagree. If the cat is white and you say its black, I am not subsequently arguing against your state of consciousness -- (if you get the point without going off into metaphysical realms). Any appeal to others to believe something that is true only from the unenlightened waking state is, almost by definition, an appeal to these others to look at the situation *from* the POV of unenlight- ened waking state. If these others are looking at the situation from another state of consciousness, from the POV of, say, UC, then the situation as described by someone in the state of ignorance is *not* true, for them. The cat is still white. It may also be known by some to be a reflection of the same omnipotence that they are a reflection of. But the cat is still white. newmorning i very much doubt that Christine Breese was referring to any obvious, factual level cases or even to cases that basic common sense can determined where the truth resides. :D But the folks who feel the need to *convince* these others that they know the truth often keep ham- mering away at the UC POV, telling it that it's wrong, and that they should look at things from the right POV. Which in this case, of course, is ignorance. Actually, I don't recall having seen many, if any, disputes of this nature here. I agree. I can't recall many if any, Turq, can you cite 3-4 of these discussion, My mind draws a blank. I think the assertion above is being used to lump all disputes about what is true and what isn't into this category and thereby stigmatize anybody who takes a stand on anything as being in ignorance, as well as to excuse those who contradict themselves or get their facts wrong or express an opinion that is not well founded. Some true contradictions are inevitable -- and useful -- if used well. That is far from validly concluding or infering that ALL contradicions are good. If someone says the cat is black, when its white, thats a contradiction. One of mistaken perception. Its not profound. Something to bear in mind when trying to claim that your POV is true. When you make that claim, aren't you *really* saying, *Mine* is the POV or SOC from which 'truth' is determined? Since few discussions are really debating such, your point is not relevant to 99%+ of all dsscussions here that focus on the every day material world. If in that context if you know, its a contradiction is used as a trump card -- to justify poor logic, cognitive difficulties or incorrect facts, then its a cop-out. Nope. Depends entirely on the claim and the nature of the POV. Charles Manson is reported to have said, If all is One, nothing can be wrong. That's true, but it's irrelevant, even if we accept for the sake of argument that Manson was in UC. To claim that it makes a difference on the level of human interaction is just sophistry. Yes.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Women in Art
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is the most spectacularly well-done, most beautiful, most imaginative, most uplifting video I've ever seen. YouTube: http://tinyurl.com/2r73ay i *saw* one woman that has many faces; no wonder i love them all. ;) lovely.
[FairfieldLife] Spirituality Paradox Contradictions Spirituality All True
Learn to accept contradictions and don't be obsessed with your *truth*. Christine Breese has many amazing satsangs but I thought this short talk will be relevant/appreciated on this forum, many times people here will find themselves in such defensive situations that they feel they need to protect their truth no matter what. It's worth the 7 min to listen to it,imo. http://youtube.com/watch?v=MKf9CmNzpxY Enjoy.
[FairfieldLife] Welcome to Manhattan
I guess these Texas driver are not used to tunnels, this is too funny, just the same if you get into such a situation don't forget to employ a height-reducing technique of letting some air out to reduce the height. :D http://www.nytimes.com/2007/06/01/nyregion/01truck.html? emex=1180929600en=287a4f95e0ee4164ei=5087%0A
[FairfieldLife] Re: MS Outlook Help
Ken, consider suing yousendit, it's allows users to email large files (up to 1GB) quickly, securely, and easily. I use it all the time , http://www.yousendit.com/ GL --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Kenny H [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Group I have a question re: MS Outlook for which I cannot find an answer so I am hoping in this group of obviously avid computer users someone has the solution. Outlook (2003) will not allow me to send email with files of 2mb and over. I have looked everywhere for some way to increase the size of the files I send, many of which are bigger than 2mb. I am not on an exchange server, I work from a home office, my cable provider, Comcast, told me they have no limit and that it is an Outlook issue. Anyone have a solution so I can use Outlook 2003 to send large files? Thank you! Kenny H.
[FairfieldLife] Moroccan YouTube ban elicits negative reaction from citizens
Rabat (Morocco) - Moroccon Internet users have been banned from accessing YouTube for over a week, and now some are beginning to doubt the government's response that the problem is due to a technical glitch. The video sharing site has been blocked from subscribers of Morocco's Maroc Telecom, a state-run company that provides the majority of Internet access, since last Friday. A government spokesperson told the Associated Press it was unable to comment, and Maroc Telecom would not go further than to say it was a glitch. However, skeptics are wondering how a glitch would prevent access to only one site, and why it hasn't been fixed in four days. They've clearly blocked YouTube, said local student Abdelhakin Albarkani. It allowed us to see things the state newspapers and television won't show. Videos criticizing the country's treatment of Western Sahara, a Moroccon-owned territory, went up on the site shortly before it became unavailable to Maroc Telecom subscribers. Morocco is in the same category as Thailand, with strict laws that prohibit overt criticism about the government and its ruler. Thailand received international attention when it banned YouTube because of a video that insulted the country's king. http://www.tgdaily.com/content/view/32236/118/ - common Moroccan Govt, live a little. lol
[FairfieldLife] Re: A Prison of the Mind, Sthapatya Veda
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: FW: hi guys, i find this rather amazing(sort of) just thought i'd pass it on Note: forwarded message attached. FW: sounds like he's cooped up in his house if he is afraid to go elsewhere and what sort of fragility of consciousness is this that requires a house to keep one in a state of illumination. and he is going to rebuild the universe? wow. is that cosmic ego or just straight up egotism. and what about all those folks who have sickened and died in their staphatyavedic homes. stranger and stranger jai guru dev z FW: no kidding!!! and he may just be senile(along with delusional) etc. lol. though i respect Sthapatya to some extent, it is over rated big time, you don't want to becomes a prisoner of brain washing machine of these marketing guys, aka tmo. FW Excerpts from Maharishi's talk of 17 May 2007: We cannot describe what is indescribable -- and what is indescribable is the benefit of Vastu structured buildings -- Sthapatya Veda buildings. I am living in the Sthapatya Veda building, and what I feel is, that the walls of the house -- they don't produce a cage for me. I don't feel that I am living inside the walls. The walls are as transparent, as is the meaning of cosmic living -- cosmic living -- you don't feel that you are cramped by the walls. I have been, all my life -- fifty, forty years living wherever I went, living with whomsoever kept me as his guest and all...and always I was feeling, I am caged within these walls. And ever since they gave me this house to live in, I'm not feeling restricted. This is cosmic living. I am living within the walls, but the walls are transparent for me. That is the experience. I am very afraid to go to any other house. I never feel to go, because I will be caged in. Such freedom, such abundance, such enormous mastery over space and time is the reality of living in cosmic magnitude. This is living in Vastu building. So, builders of the world, listen to the talk that Dr Hagelin has just spoken for you. And build Fortune-Creating Homes in the world till the world is structured in terms of heaven. The Devatas living in heaven -- the administrators of the universe live in heaven. And, living in heaven, they are able to administer the universe without restriction, because they are living in Sthapatya Veda. They are ordained to live in the Sthapatya Veda. Sthapatya Veda is that section of the Constitution of the Universe -- Veda is the Constitution of the Universe, and Sthapatya Veda is the law of stabilizing, the law that stabilizes individuality in terms of his cosmic status. It is such a thing, it's beyond speech. Therefore, a new world will be lived in by the same people, and what they will be? They will never be sick, they will never be shrouded with small things, there will be peace unbounded, prosperity unlimited, coherence unimaginable. This is Vastu living. Living in Vastu -- it's a very great gift. A very great time. We call the builders of the world to rebuild, to reconstruct the world. World Movement has a program to reconstruct the world. We are inviting the builders of the world to build Heaven on Earth. It will be Heaven on Earth. I have the experience of all these eighty, ninety years of life, living in all these wrong places. But somehow through the grace of Guru Dev, I never jolted from my purpose of life. The purpose of life was to be fully enlightened. So, that was inside, that remains, that was very strong. And I was not living permanently one place -- one month here, one week here -- but ever since I came to this house, the house never left me. Because, it is the same thing, if one begins to live one's cosmic status, one cannot leave oneself, one cannot stoop down to individual status. So Vastu house is an aspect of the knowledge of Total Natural Law. It is promoted by the Constitution of the Universe. It is promoted by the Will of God, who is responsible for creation. Time of speaking is over. I would only say: 'The taste of pudding is in eating.' All lifelong I have the experience, those who heard and followed the words, they are better off today, and they will be better off the whole of their life. We have no other interest, except we want to see the people healthy, happy, and prosperous. I want to see every nation invincible, and I'm going to make it. I'm going to make every nation invincible. oh.
[FairfieldLife] Turning off gene makes mice smarter
May 27, 2007 10:04:39 AM PST Turning off a gene that has been associated with Alzheimer's disease made mice smarter in the lab, researchers said on Sunday in a finding that lends new insight on learning and may lead to new drugs for memory problems. They said these mice were far more adept at sensing changes in their environment than their mouse brethren. quot;It's pretty rare when you can make an animal smarter,quot; said Dr. James Bibb, assistant professor of psychiatry at the University of Texas Southwestern Medical Center, who led the study published in the journal Nature Neuroscience. Bibb and colleagues used genetic engineering techniques to breed mice that could be manipulated to switch off Cdk5, a gene that controls production of a brain enzyme linked to diseases marked by the death of neurons in the brain, such as Alzheimer's. quot;Any time we're losing neurons, Cdk5 may be contributing to that process. That has made it an area of great interest,quot; Bibb said in a telephone interview. quot;We have shown that we can turn off a gene in an adult animal. That has never been done before,quot; he added. When they had tried to breed mice that completely lacked the gene, the pups died at birth. Bibb said they put the mice though a series of tests and found the altered mice did better than normal mice. quot;Everything is more meaningful to these mice,quot; he said. quot;The increase in sensitivity to their surroundings seems to have made them smarter.quot; Bibb said the mice were better at tasks based on associated learning, Bibb said. quot;It's the most important kind of learning in the animal kingdom. It's how we know where our car is and that is our wife or our husband and that's our kids. It's how we connect things,quot; he added. The smart mice were better at learning to navigate a water maze and remembering that they got a shock when they were in a certain cage. quot;It was very clear right off the bat that the loss of Cdk5 made them have a much stronger associative memory,quot; Bibb said. quot;What was really interesting is they not only remembered better, but the next day, if you put them back in those same circumstances, they noticed they were not getting shocked.quot; Bibb said his work was inspired by the 1999 discovery of quot;Doogiequot; mice, a smarter breed of mice developed at Princeton University that were named after the TV program quot;Doogie Houser,quot; a show that featured a child prodigy. Those mice were bred by manipulating NR2B, a gene that also plays a role in associative memory. quot;It turns out Cdk5 was controlling the regulation of NR2B,quot; Bibb said. quot;Maybe by finding these new mechanisms we can find new drugs that improve the cognitive performance of people who have deficits.quot; He and colleagues are working on developing drugs that could create the same effect without the need for genetic alteration. quot;There are other cases -- in post-traumatic stress disorder, addiction and depression -- where we may want to modulate memory not so much to improve it, but to selectively modify it to remove the negative memories that are causing the problems. I think that has a lot of potential,quot; Bibb said. However, he said the long-term effects are not yet clear. quot;If all of your (brain) synapses were magically strengthened all the time, that might be good for the short term, but I'm not sure if it would be good all the time,quot; he said. http://health.yahoo.com/news/175614
[FairfieldLife] The Great Global Warming Swindle (Complete)
http://youtube.com/watch?v=XttV2C6B8pU Amazing video to watch, it is exposing the hype with regard to man made global warming to be which is a big hype, the hype is needed in order to get funds (government funds), research funds, of course the media has it's own reasons to spread scary stories. just the same i still strongly think that alternative energy should be used more often and be the major source of energy so the dependency on the rich oil countries will cease or at least reduced.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Great Global Warming Swindle (Complete)
reading between the lines I see that the author or who he represents has some agenda with Channel 4. h... --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, claudiouk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here's a critique of the video.. http://environment.guardian.co.uk/climatechange/story/0,,2032572,00.h t ml --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, larry.potter larry.potter@ wrote: http://youtube.com/watch?v=XttV2C6B8pU Amazing video to watch, it is exposing the hype with regard to man made global warming to be which is a big hype, the hype is needed in order to get funds (government funds), research funds, of course the media has it's own reasons to spread scary stories. just the same i still strongly think that alternative energy should be used more often and be the major source of energy so the dependency on the rich oil countries will cease or at least reduced.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Great Global Warming Swindle (Complete)
Global Warming is not a scam in my mind, however the media and popular science painting it as man-made is very much exaggerated. though there is a climate change, i doubt however that we have any significance control over it () , it is used in my opinion for foreign political and economical agendas, unfortunately some heavy funds are wasted on futile and irrelevant research with regard to global warming, while those funds are very much needed elsewhere, but if this is what it takes to progress alternative and renewable energy sources, maybe it's good for the long run. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Some of the people who think Global Warming is a scam still believe there is climate change and something should be done about (alternative and renewable energy sources, etc). They think however that Global Warming will be used as an excuse to further set up a police state to control the masses. larry.potter wrote: reading between the lines I see that the author or who he represents has some agenda with Channel 4. h... --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, claudiouk claudiouk@ wrote: Here's a critique of the video.. http://environment.guardian.co.uk/climatechange/story/0,,2032572,00.h t ml --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, larry.potter larry.potter@ wrote: http://youtube.com/watch?v=XttV2C6B8pU Amazing video to watch, it is exposing the hype with regard to man made global warming to be which is a big hype, the hype is needed in order to get funds (government funds), research funds, of course the media has it's own reasons to spread scary stories. just the same i still strongly think that alternative energy should be used more often and be the major source of energy so the dependency on the rich oil countries will cease or at least reduced.
[FairfieldLife] Re: New Orleans
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, llundrub [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sure as shit, but my house will still stand yet again. I wasn't aware that you actually own it. anyway I do remember the lovely colorful rooms and pictures of deities on the walls or was it the ceiling.. via the photos you posted here the other day. You must be missing that.. I hope New Orleans will recover to it's full potential. gl From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick Archer Sent: Friday, March 30, 2007 7:02 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [FairfieldLife] New Orleans From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of llundrub Sent: Friday, March 30, 2007 12:39 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] New Orleans Honestly People, if any of you had any sense you would pool your money and buy a couple houses next door to each other in New Orleans and make meditation centers here. This city is at the start of a huge boom where for real it's all possibilities. If they don't fix the levies, you're due for another dunking.
[FairfieldLife] U. G. Krishnamurti passed away
not sure if it was posted before, anyway, On March 22, 2007 U. G. Krishnamurti passed away. He was interesting dude , not the traditional Guru, when i was reading some of his books, i felt that he only taught from the ultimate level and despised any other interpretations or teaching styles, claiming basically that they are false or misleading. his staff is free to read on his website: http://www.well.com/~jct/
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Israel Drawing Plans for Iran Attack'
nablusos108 wrote: The americans should leave the world alone and focus on it's own problems of poverty, crime and rascism... The United States has handed over to the Palestinian Authority $20 million to help restore public services and infrastructure .. but not just from US the Palestinian are getting their $$$, they get it from European countries and recently they got $20 million from Iran. Now,when they get all this free $$$ why would the P' make an effort to change, being peacefull will means they will have to get better and to do something productive for a change and that's an effort. The Muslims, especially in the eyes of the Left, are the retarded kids of the world. From them there is no need to demand responsibility, morale, international law. They are allowed.
[FairfieldLife] PS3 vs. Wii - Apple Style!
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2964751562925463883 with all this estrogen on their campaign it's hard to decide which one is better or maybe it's very easy. ;)
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Israel Drawing Plans for Iran Attack'
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 1/10/07 12:02:41 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Take a chill pill. I sincerely doubt Iran would ever invade or attack Israel. The rhetoric from their prez is spun to make it seem that way, but it ain't gonna happen. As usual, the US is scaring the crap out of some country, and when the country reacts, we say Oh they are getting ready for an attack!. The only two countries in the last ten years to invade other countries are the US and Israel. Yeah, I'll take a chill pill but you need a reality check. Hezzbola and Hamas picked a fight with Israel this past summer who were supported directly by Iran probably for the purpose of getting Iran and their nuclear program off the front pages while the E 8 met in Moscow. No, Iran isn't going to invade Israel, not with an American army in between them and not when they have their proxy Hezzbola to do it for them. Jim also forgets that the recent Israel-Lebanon war occurred after Lebanon via Hezbollah invaded Israel and started a war cycle. The conflict began when Hezbollah fired Katyusha rockets and mortars at Israeli military positions and border villages, diverting attention from another Hezbollah unit that crossed the border and abducted two Israeli soldiers and killed three others.[1] Israeli troops attempted to rescue the abducted soldiers but were unsuccessful. .. On 11 August 2006, the United Nations Security Council unanimously approved UN Resolution 1701 in an effort to end the hostilities. The resolution, which was approved by both Lebanese and Israeli governments the following days, called for disarmament of Hezbollah, for withdrawal of Israel from Lebanon... (wikipedia.org) Israel kept it's part of the 1701 resolution, while Hezbollah didn't, in fact every day under the eye of the UN, Hezbollah is getting weapons mainly from Iran and Syria.
[FairfieldLife] Re: PS3 vs. Wii - Apple Style!
Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 2:39 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] PS3 vs. Wii - Apple Style! larry.potter wrote: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2964751562925463883 with all this estrogen on their campaign it's hard to decide which one is better or maybe it's very easy. ;) I believe that's a spoof rather than an actual Wii commercial as it has the G4 which is the game network logo on it. yes, it was a joke/parody ;) The Wii seems to be the winner this round as Sony seems to be going through a real downturn (I need to look at Sony horoscope). yeh , they need a strong yagya.. :) Or maybe they should stick to professional broadcast gear and camcorders. I need to look into their HC7 hi-def camcorder they announced at CES as it may well be using the funny that you mentioned it, I was planning to purchase a new camcorder and didn't get around to research the thing yet. same technology that they built for the Panavision single chip hi- def camera that was used to film the last Superman and Apocalypto. You get 3 CCD color without 3 CCDs! BTW, local coverage of Mac Whirled shows that the majority of the attendees look like the PC guy and not a bunch of artsy types which in reality probably is only 10-20% of their market and only because some artists and musicians are computer phobic. ;-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Israel Drawing Plans for Iran Attack'
jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 4:09 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Israel Drawing Plans for Iran Attack' --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, peterklutz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, larry.potter larry.potter@ wrote: From: MDixon6569@ wrote: In a message dated 1/10/07 12:02:41 P.M. Central Standard Time, jflanegi@ writes: Take a chill pill. I sincerely doubt Iran would ever invade or attack Israel. The rhetoric from their prez is spun to make it seem that way, but it ain't gonna happen. As usual, the US is scaring the crap out of some country, and when the country reacts, we say Oh they are getting ready for an attack!. The only two countries in the last ten years to invade other countries are the US and Israel. Yeah, I'll take a chill pill but you need a reality check. Hezzbola and Hamas picked a fight with Israel this past summer who were supported directly by Iran probably for the purpose of getting Iran and their nuclear program off the front pages while the E 8 met in Moscow. No, Iran isn't going to invade Israel, not with an American army in between them and not when they have their proxy Hezzbola to do it for them. Jim also forgets that the recent Israel-Lebanon war occurred after Lebanon via Hezbollah invaded Israel and started a war cycle. The conflict began when Hezbollah fired Katyusha rockets and mortars at Israeli military positions and border villages, diverting attention from another Hezbollah unit that crossed the border and abducted two Israeli soldiers and killed three others.[1] Israeli troops attempted to rescue the abducted soldiers but were unsuccessful. .. On 11 August 2006, the United Nations Security Council unanimously approved UN Resolution 1701 in an effort to end the hostilities. The resolution, which was approved by both Lebanese and Israeli governments the following days, called for disarmament of Hezbollah, for withdrawal of Israel from Lebanon... (wikipedia.org) Israel kept it's part of the 1701 resolution, while Hezbollah didn't, in fact every day under the eye of the UN, Hezbollah is getting weapons mainly from Iran and Syria. Absolutely, though I think more approriate would be to say that the Israeli defense kicked into action AFTER Iran via Hezbollah - with the government and people of Lebanon as hostages - embarked on indiscriminate killing by shooting rockets into Israel. I draw my conclusions partly from the numbers of dead. Israel though they have a much better PR engine kills ten to one hundred times more enemies than their enemies do of them, yet they always position themselves as the victims. Israel PR sux, it's also a matter of size, Israel can't compete with all the many hatrade contries PR machines. You tend to ignore pure FACTS and you using funny logic is not helping, meaning, just becuase Israel happened to have less dead count in this war does not mean that they are responsible for Hezbollah attack on them.
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Israel Drawing Plans for Iran Attack'
jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 5:04 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Israel Drawing Plans for Iran Attack' --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, larry.potter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You tend to ignore pure FACTS and you using funny logic is not helping, meaning, just becuase Israel happened to have less dead count in this war does not mean that they are responsible for Hezbollah attack on them. I don't know who's responsible for what over there. Hezbollah attacked- sure, but this back and forth killing goes on constantly, so it was no doubt sparked by an earlier transgression by the Israelis, which was further a response to Hezbollah, etc, etc, etc. Nice logic you got there, first you blame Israel automaticaly and when confronted with some facts you say you you don't know.. I'll try to complie some facts and post it with regard to this topic later on this week.
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Israel Drawing Plans for Iran Attack' - some facts
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, larry.potter larry.potter@ wrote: nablusos108 wrote: The americans should leave the world alone and focus on it's own problems of poverty, crime and rascism... The United States has handed over to the Palestinian Authority $20 million to help restore public services and infrastructure .. but not just from US the Palestinian are getting their $$$, they get it from European countries and recently they got $20 million from Iran. Now,when they get all this free $$$ why would the P' make an effort to change, being peacefull will means they will have to get better and to do something productive for a change and that's an effort. The Muslims, especially in the eyes of the Left, are the retarded kids of the world. From them there is no need to demand responsibility, morale, international law. They are allowed. Just how much free money does Israel get, and how are they less retarted? Not so free as people think, It's actually a debt with all the ramifications of it. See this Video and tell me if you still think they are retarted: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I5tDDkvXSI8NR
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Israel Drawing Plans for Iran Attack'
Jason Spock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Israel is an artificial state. The Arab world says pushing Israel off the map is justified. artificial? on the contrary, actually Israel was established using a democratic voting process of the United Nations. Hard to find better validation than that. United Nations, 1947, Resolution 181 approves the creation of Israel, the Jewish State .. The Declaration of the Establishment of the State of Israel , was the official announcement that a new Jewish state, named the State of Israel , had been formally established in the British Mandate of Palestine, the land where the Kingdom of Israel and the Kingdom of Judah once have been. It has been called the start of the Third Jewish Commonwealth by some observers. The First Jewish Commonwealth ended with the destruction of Solomon's Temple, and the second with the destruction of the Second Temple in Jerusalem two thousand years ago. wikipedia.org
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Israel Drawing Plans for Iran Attack'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 1/9/07 11:36:01 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The best Israel could do is 'mini tactical-nukes' that destroy only small areas. Huge mega city busters are a big NO NO. Mini tactical nukes are what is being talked about, at least in the media. Mini tactical bunker busters that explode deep underground to destroy the facility and hopefully keep above ground radiation to a minimum. There has been no talk of bombing cities with nukes. That is totally uncalled for. Iran and specifically Ahmadi Nejad is a master in mind games , he puts Bush and Tony Blair in his small pocket, Iran aims to show that it is threatened by Israel and therefore building it's nuke weapons is justified. same with the Holocaust, Iran give a [EMAIL PROTECTED] about the Holocaust, nor do they care about the Palestinians. I wouldn't be surprised if Iran is pushing this type of info to the media.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Mechanics of Yagyas
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, llundrub [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't give a shit about all the objective stuff. I am not interested in Movement yagyas because ostensibly since the Veda is expressed in Shakas therefore the Movement cannot own those families. I am just curious how yagyas work. technology of the reverberations for what it's worth is how it works , you need an expert on the field to answer your question. technology of the reverberations of the Unified Field of Natural Law ... that's mmy definition, i don't like the word technology here, i think this is where the marketing part of it starts. my 0.2 I feel the effects from the ones I sponsor. I have no need for objective confirmation. - Original Message - From: TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2007 11:38 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Mechanics of Yagyas --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, llundrub llundrub@ wrote: So I know yagyas are the way of heyam dukam anagatam etc, but what are the mechanics exactly? I mean, do the devas just dig it so much that we do ceremonies that they shower blessings? So they are not altruistic? They will only help those who sacrifice? What are the mechanics? Are they moral? If you only sacrificed exactly so much do you only get exactly so much back? Or is the quality of the priest important? If you have a huge and expensive yagya with a shitty pundit is it not as good as a poor yagya with a great pundit? And so on... Is it not only karma really? The amount of energy put into the aspect of creation through ritual? Me, I suspect that yagyas work now the way they always have -- they're a revenue generator for the people and organizations that offer them, and any benefits occur through the mechanism of the placebo effect. But there is a simple, scientific way to find out if there is anything else going on with them. Offer to perform a study tracking the effects of various yagyas, as long as the pundits perform the yagyas for free. We'll tell them that's a testing protocol, so that the test subjects for whom the yagyas are performed have no more invested in the outcome than the control group does. But the real reason is to see if any of them will do it for free. If they won't, that'll pretty much clear up once and for all what yagyas are all about, right? :-) To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links
[FairfieldLife] Re: Stages of samaadhi
a nice quote that describes the sanyama and P' Sutra process: The parallel between the quantum field theory of effortless creation and Maharishi's theory of sanyama continues in that both involve spontaneous symmetry breaking. The creation of a Goldstone boson takes place in a quantum field whenever the influences are such as to produce a spontaneous change from a more homogeneous to a less homogeneous state. In the regime of consciousness the influence of the Patanjali sutra on the wholeness of pure consciousness is such as to cause a spontaneous localization of the pure consciousness in the direction of a particular result specified by Patanjali, that is a symmetry breaking of the consciousness takes place whereby the wholeness of consciousness flows into a particular location. http://www.csun.edu/edpsy/Gowan/page38z.html
[FairfieldLife] Re: Stages of samaadhi
Original Message - From: sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, January 08, 2007 7:38 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Stages of samaadhi --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, larry.potter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, January 08, 2007 10:58 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Stages of samaadhi snip --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote: But MMY, in my understanding, teaches exactly the opposite: samadhi is prerequisite to samyama. Obviously samyama is not the same as pure samadhi; 3:8 is a DEscription, not a PREscription. Can you refer us to any source by MMY to that effect, that reflect that that samadhi is prerequisite to samyama ? It's not my understanding of the MMY's teaching (Samyama). As I understand it, Samyama flows and go thru stages (processes, refinement) that evolves into a samadhi stage and not vice versa. Only later on, after more practice, the states of samyama and samadhi almost become one almost instantly. snip One must already know TM and practice to learn and practice MMY's samyama technique. That's a prerequisit in the first place. right, in that context that Judy was referring to, of teaching new students the Sidhi technique after they are familiar with TM. I understood that she was referring to that later on. initially I was more thinking in the context of a specific one session, of using the mantra in meditation until the flow becomes a full evolved Samadhi. Samyama is basically a pulse of attention, hence any session of meditation will have parts of it as well (not just the Sidhis), therefore also before the full blown Samadhi there will be an ongoing samyama pulses.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Stages of samaadhi
From: authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, January 08, 2007 10:58 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Stages of samaadhi snip --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote: But MMY, in my understanding, teaches exactly the opposite: samadhi is prerequisite to samyama. Obviously samyama is not the same as pure samadhi; 3:8 is a DEscription, not a PREscription. Can you refer us to any source by MMY to that effect, that reflect that that samadhi is prerequisite to samyama ? It's not my understanding of the MMY's teaching (Samyama). As I understand it, Samyama flows and go thru stages (processes, refinement) that evolves into a samadhi stage and not vice versa. Only later on, after more practice, the states of samyama and samadhi almost become one almost instantly. snip
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Israel Drawing Plans for Iran Attack'
i agree, i wouldn't take this bs too serious. a similar article was published by the New Yorker, i believe it was , a year ago. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, suziezuzie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Israel denies they ever claimed an attack against Iran. Mark --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusos108 nablusos108@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, MDixon6569@ wrote: In a message dated 1/7/07 9:52:14 A.M. Central Standard Time, jstein@ writes: I refuse to believe that anyone here would consider using nuclear weapons against Iran, Reuven Pedatzur, a prominent defense analyst and columnist for the daily Haaretz, told the AP. It is possible that this was a leak done on purpose, as deterrence, to say 'someone better hold us back, before we do something crazy.' Could be a trial balloon also to get a sense of what public opinion would be if they did carry it out. All I can say is, if they do it, the fit will hit the shan and they better be ready. We better be ready also because Iran will no doubt take it out on us as well. If the fascists (according to Jimmy Carter) in the israeli goverment decide on this, Israel is doomed as a nation. Is Israel any less doomed if Iran acquires nuclear weapons?
[FairfieldLife] Re: purchase land on moon
hugheshugo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2007 8:03 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: purchase land on moon --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, larry.potter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hugheshugo richardhughes103@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, larry.potter larry.potter@ wrote: Israelis purchase land on moon Website selling land on moon reports flow of Israeli shoppers following NASA's decision to build base on moon. The cost - NIS 250 (USD 60) per half dunam, in the meantime land sold out Ynet Published: 01.03.07, 17:21 In December over one thousand Israelis had purchased land on the moon. The price of each plot of land with an area of half a dunam (about 0.123 acres) is NIS 250 (about USD 60) as reported by the official moon property's website on Wednesday. During the 1970's, the American Dennis Hope registered the moon and all the planets in the solar system except for the planet earth under his name. This guy may think he's selling bits of the moon, but he is sadly mistaken. Nobody owns the moon. Have a read of the UN outer space treaty. http://www.unoosa.org/oosa/SpaceLaw/treaties.html I pity the poor fools who have given him money. But then again, if it will help rid the world of a few Zionists maybe we should keep quiet. Dude you obviously missed the point, the buyers are clearly aware of the different legal aspect of their purchase. imo, better get rid of the Palys, the planet will be a better place. see some of the paly's mith: Prior to the influx of thousands of eastern European hardworking Jews in the second half of XIX c and on, the Land of Israel was scarcely populated: majority were religious Jews who lived in the holy cities (Tver, Hevron, Tsfat etc.), Druze in the north, Bedouins, who wondered all over Negev, Sinai and Tran Jordan deserts, and, yes, there were two, I repeat TWO Arab clans. One Muslim clan Husseini, and one Christian Nusseibah. That is it. All those Arabs, who now call themselves Palestinians Refugees etc. are in fact scavengers who invaded Israel from Egypt, Syria, Lebanon etc. looking for the handouts from the Jews. They are grandchildren of scavengers and have no historical, moral or any other right in the Land of the Jews. Palestine? Why won't these Arabs call themselves Martians, no wait, Lunatics! That is the saddest most despicable load of tripe I have read for a long time, wrong in every possible way, you have been brainwashed my friend, well and truly. It's very clear that the historic ignorance with a combination of strong Arab propaganda did a good brain wash job on you. See some details below: Let us examine the truths here: 1) There never was a Palestinian state or a Palestinian nation. There are no Palestinian people, per se. Rather, these are Arabs living in a region that historically has been called many things, including Palestine. Is that a good reason to forcibly evict 50,000 peple from their homes? I have some an Uncle who was stationed there in WW2, he has hideous stories about the Stern gangs' reign of terror, the original terrorists-their words not mine. But really, it doesnt matter what P is called the place was well populated and had been for millenia. I doubt that the dude saw the picture for what it is, Palestine land at that point of time was laid waste with little population, Most Arabs living in Palestine today are not indigenous to the region. It was not until after the Jews had changed deserts and swamps into a productive and thriving land that the Arabs started migrating there. Just the same the Jews went thru 2000 years, here is a short list for you : 135 B.C Antiochus Epiphanes desecrates Second Jewish Temple; leading to Hasmonean Revolt against Rome. 70 A.D. Titus took Jerusalem - second revolt. Over one million Jews killed. 136 A.D. 580,000 men destroyed, 985 towns destroyed - third revolt. 300 A.D. Purim festival celebrating God's deliverance to Mordecai and the Jews through Esther and the fasting. Lies spread that Jews kill Christians for sacrifice. Emperor Severus also said the Jews purchased 90,000 Christians to kill them. 306 A.D. Council in Spain banned Christians Jews meeting or marrying. 325 A.D. Constantine changed the celebration of Easter on the calendar so that it did not coincide with the Jewish Passover. 379 A.D. Vicious writing by St. John Chrysostom and St. Ambrose in Milan who said: The Jews are the most worthless of all men. They are lecherous, greedy, rapacious. They are perfidious murderers of Christ. They worship the Devil. Their religion is a sickness. The Jews are the odious assassins of Christ and for killing God there is no expiation possible, no indulgence or pardon. Christians may never cease vengeance, and the Jew must live
[FairfieldLife] Re: purchase land on moon
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason Spock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I agree with you. There was never a country called Palestine. The territory was called Judea for centuries. The word Palestine means barbarian. West bank was Jordanian territory till 1967. Gaza strip was Egyptian territory. That land was a jewish land which was stolen from them by different rulers, Jews went to an exile while other Jews stayed in the land. One has to follow history and see the facts as they are. But that does not justify the creation of Israel. Would America agree to part with it's territory for the creation of a Jewish state.?? Israel is an artificial state. Israel was created on the basis of the Old Testament Myth Crap. A Complete Dogmatic Nonsense. No, that's mostly Arabs propoganda. The fact is that the Jews are indigenous people on that land who never left, archeological excavation proves it, History proves it. The Jewish presence in the Holy Land at times tenuous persisted throughout its bloody history. Besides, Israel existed 2,500 years ago. Ever since the Babylonian invasion, that land has not seen independence till the 20th Century.! As i said the Jewish presence in the land persisted throughout its history, but if you want independece so Israel fought the Arab countries and won Indepence at 1948 war. Arafat was a bloody fraud. He never really wanted to solve the problem. Keeping the problem alive made his bank account swell. It soon became his money making machine. You can say that again !
[FairfieldLife] Re: Scale -- Excellent Video
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Marek Reavis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3974466981713172831pr=goog- sl yup, I'm happy to say that size does matter, right girls... ;)
[FairfieldLife] purchase land on moon
Israelis purchase land on moon Website selling land on moon reports flow of Israeli shoppers following NASA's decision to build base on moon. The cost NIS 250 (USD 60) per half dunam, in the meantime land sold out Ynet Published: 01.03.07, 17:21 In December over one thousand Israelis had purchased land on the moon. The price of each plot of land with an area of half a dunam (about 0.123 acres) is NIS 250 (about USD 60) as reported by the official moon property's website on Wednesday. During the 1970's, the American Dennis Hope registered the moon and all the planets in the solar system except for the planet earth under his name. According to the land registry's laws, any citizen is allowed register any property under their name, as long as it is not registered under anyone else's name already, and no one objects to the registration. Hope took advantage of this loophole and registered the moon under his name. Daniel Yaron, CEO of Crazyshop, the company which markets moon property in Israel, explained to Ynet why Israelis are interested in purchasing land on the moon: People decide to buy land on the moon for two reasons: One is the gimmick of giving a gift a piece of land on the moon. The other reason, he continued, is that now, we see that this is becoming more realistic after NASA's decision to construct a manned base on the moon by the year 2020. Some people think that in a few years from now this property may be more valuable. Yaron agrees that at the moment there is nothing to be done with the plot, but said that in the future it may be possible to do something with it, to realize the purchase one way or another. After all, it is a matter of foresight, 70 years ago if someone had said 'buy land in Israel' people would have asked why should we? Upon purchase, the buyer gets an ownership certificate and a photographed map of the purchased area. So far some 55.5 million acres of land on the moon have been sold to people all over the world. For those who are interesting in making a purchase, at the moment the property inventory has been sold out.
[FairfieldLife] Re: purchase land on moon
on a different note: New Evidence of Liquid Methane on Saturn's Moon By JOHN NOBLE WILFORD Published: January 3, 2007 As scientists predicted but have had a hard time proving, the surface of Titan, Saturn's largest moon, appears to be dotted with an abundance of lakes of liquid methane. The lakes are more intriguing evidence of the active phenomena at play on the only moon in the solar system that has a dense atmosphere. The Lakes of Titan (Nature) The discovery, reported today by an international team of researchers, was made by a radar survey of Titan's high northern latitudes by the Cassini spacecraft, which has been orbiting Saturn and its retinue of satellites since July 2004. One of the mission's major objectives is the investigation of Titan's environment, thought to be similar to conditions on the primordial Earth. In a detailed description of the find scheduled for publication Thursday in the journal Nature, the scientists said the radar imaging system detected more than 75 dark patches in the landscape toward Titan's northern polar region. The patches, they said, indicated smooth surfaces in an otherwise rugged topography, suggesting lake beds either partly dry or filled with liquid. These smooth surfaces, more or less circular and ranging in diameter from 2 to 40 miles, are associated with channels that appear to have been formed by flowing liquids, presumably tributaries to the lakes. Methane exists in Titan's atmosphere and, in the extreme cold of high latitudes, is expected to rain on the surface and be present as liquids in subsurface reservoirs. The discovery team concluded that the radar images, made on a close pass of the moon in July, provide definitive evidence for the presence of lakes on the surface of Titan. When the spacecraft conducted its first radar search above 70 degrees north latitude, Ellen R. Stofan, leader of the team, said in an interview, We saw a huge swath of the surface just covered with lakes, like Minnesota. Dr. Stofan is a planetary scientist at Proxemy Research, a contractor in Virginia to the National Aeronautics and Space Administration, and at University College London. Other team members include researchers at the Jet Propulsion Laboratory in Pasadena, Calif., which directs the Cassini mission; the University of Arizona, and several European institutions. In an accompanying article in the journal, Christophe Sotin, a planetary scientist at the University of Nantes in France who was not involved in the research, wrote that the lakes and other mission findings were strong evidence that methane on Titan plays the role of water on Earth. It is the second most abundant component of Titan's atmosphere, after nitrogen. The discovery, Dr. Sotin concluded, adds to the weight of evidence that processes on and beneath Titan's surface must be similar to those dominating the early evolution of any Earth-like planet. As far as we know, there is only one planetary body that displays more dynamism than Titan, he wrote. Its name is Earth. Finding large bodies of liquid methane and probably ethane on Titan, in lakes or perhaps vast seas, had long been hypothesized, based on telescope observations of the moon's smoggy methane-rich atmosphere and by the two Voyager spacecraft that passed close some 30 years ago. But the Cassini remote-sensing instruments had failed to detect an ocean, though they and the European Space Agency's Huygens lander did pick up traces of the channels where liquids had apparently flowed across the surface. On Cassini's previous encounters with Titan, the smog-penetrating radar found no smaller liquid bodies, until it observed the northern latitudes from 70 to 83 degrees. At present, it is winter in Titan's north. Methane is one of the few molecules to exist as a liquid in such cold conditions, scientists said, and is the most plausible explanation for the smooth, dark surfaces in the radar images. Dr. Stofan said that the lake depressions could be volcanic craters or sinkholes; very few craters gouged out by meteorite impacts have been detected on Titan. Their roughly circular shapes and steep- sided rims are typical of volcanic depressions. Surface collapses, as in sinkholes, could fill the lakes with liquids from interior chambers, like aquifers on Earth. In both cases, scientists said, methane vapor condensing and precipitating out of the cold Titan sky was probably a significant source of the liquid in the lakes. Jonathan I. Lunine of the University of Arizona, another member of the discovery team, described in an interview what the lakes probably look like. The methane liquid would be transparent, enough to see the dark hydrocarbon sediments on the floor of shallow lakes. The liquid would be less viscous than water, perhaps like gasoline. Overhead, aerosols in the upper atmosphere presumably cast a dim orange light on the lake. In the dark of winter, one would need a
[FairfieldLife] Re: purchase land on moon
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hugheshugo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, larry.potter larry.potter@ wrote: Israelis purchase land on moon Website selling land on moon reports flow of Israeli shoppers following NASA's decision to build base on moon. The cost NIS 250 (USD 60) per half dunam, in the meantime land sold out Ynet Published: 01.03.07, 17:21 In December over one thousand Israelis had purchased land on the moon. The price of each plot of land with an area of half a dunam (about 0.123 acres) is NIS 250 (about USD 60) as reported by the official moon property's website on Wednesday. During the 1970's, the American Dennis Hope registered the moon and all the planets in the solar system except for the planet earth under his name. This guy may think he's selling bits of the moon, but he is sadly mistaken. Nobody owns the moon. Have a read of the UN outer space treaty. http://www.unoosa.org/oosa/SpaceLaw/treaties.html I pity the poor fools who have given him money. But then again, if it will help rid the world of a few Zionists maybe we should keep quiet. imo, better get rid of the Palys, the planet will be a better place. see some of the paly's mith: Prior to the influx of thousands of eastern European hardworking Jews in the second half of XIX c and on, the Land of Israel was scarcely populated: majority were religious Jews who lived in the holy cities (Tver, Hevron, Tsfat etc.), Druze in the north, Bedouins, who wondered all over Negev, Sinai and Tran Jordan deserts, and, yes, there were two, I repeat TWO Arab clans. One Muslim clan Husseini, and one Christian Nusseibah. That is it. All those Arabs, who now call themselves Palestinians Refugees etc. are in fact scavengers who invaded Israel from Egypt, Syria, Lebanon etc. looking for the handouts from the Jews. They are grandchildren of scavengers and have no historical, moral or any other right in the Land of the Jews. Palestine? Why won't these Arabs call themselves Martians, no wait, Lunatics! Let us examine the truths here: 1) There never was a Palestinian state or a Palestinian nation. There are no Palestinian people, per se. Rather, these are Arabs living in a region that historically has been called many things, including Palestine. 2) Israel did not go to war against a Palestinian state and occupy its land. Rather, Israel was attacked by six Arab countries at once. She defended herself, defeated her attackers, and won the so-called territories, not from the Palestinians, but from Jordan and Egypt. 3) Jerusalem was never the capital of any state but Israel. It was certainly never the capital of a country that never existed. Why should the Palestinians get any part of it? Because they want it? Because they have terrorists? 4) Jerusalem, under the current Israeli control, is a free and open city. Israel, as a democracy, guarantees freedom of religion within its borders. Contrast this fact with areas that have come under Palestinian occupation. What percentage of Christians have left in recent years because they cannot stand the harassment and persecution? 5) Most Arabs living in Palestine today are not indigenous to the region. It was not until after the Jews had changed deserts and swamps into a productive and thriving land that the Arabs started migrating there. Arafat himself was born and raised in Cairo, Egypt. Did you know that? The belief that giving the Palestinians a state will bring peace is a delusion. Unless the Arabs recognize and accept these truths, even if they are given a state of their own, and no matter how many agreements and treaties they sign, they will always feel wronged, cheated, and forced into giving up what they now claim is theirs. They will continue to plot and look for an opportunity to destroy Israel in order to take back what they claim is theirs, especially the younger generation that has been brainwashed to hate the occupying enemy. Whether there is a Palestinian state or not, there will be no peace. Only a massive and ongoing re-education of the Arab people to these truths will enable meaningful negotiations to begin, followed by a lasting peace between Arabs and Jews. It is therefore critical that everyone who has an audience, whether in print or other media, use the forum they have available to repeat these truths again and again until they reach the consciousness of those waging war in the Middle East
[FairfieldLife] Re: Saddam Hussein
this martyr was also a video games wiz.. ?!~/|lolQ?` --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Louis McKenzie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is the one site where I can write this and feel safe about it. Just about everything I have ever heard on the news about Saddam Hussein was propaganda. Especially since I did not hear of him very much until 1991. He had been President of Iraq from 68. Seems strange that when he would really make the news would be when he invaded Kuwait. He was not killed over Kuwait but this is when he made the news. He did not make the news when he killed 148 Shiites nor when he was fighting on behalf of the US with Iran. He was not killed because of these things either. Why was he killed? How many people has George Bush killed? Since SH never actulled pulled the trigger or dropped any bombs or gassed any people either. If we add up all of the pople that he killed vs all of the people Killed by GW I think GW would get the prize. WHAT IS WRONG WITH THIS PICTURE? In the US we have a guy who was never elected to the office he holds, who stole the election which made him president. Who lied to the world in his propaganda to invadea country. A person who created a catastrophy in his own country, in order to get control of a region to support a pipeline. What had happened to justice? what has happened to democracy? what is the real story of the world we live in? Why was Saddam really killed? These are my questions on this subject. Saddam will be seen as a martyr because he is one. He is a product of what happens when you support the US. He never had anything to do with Terror. He gave up the weapons the US gave him in following the rules laid by the US. WHY WAS HIS COUNTRY INVADED AND WHY WERE SO MANY COUNTRIES PASSIVE TO THIS EVENT? WHAT IS THE REAL SITUATION HERE? WHY DO AMERICANS SO READY ACCEPT AND FORGET? HELP ME BECAUSE I NEED TO KNOW. - Original Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, January 2, 2007 10:28:00 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Saddam Hussein In a message dated 1/1/07 11:20:46 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In his own mind, he was about to die a martyr. Sociopath that he was, he had a very powerful personality that wouldn't be likely to fall apart in the face of death. He knew this was the end, and he was determined to do it well. I would have to go with this take on Saddam. He knew what was coming and had lots of time to prepare for it. Had he been in the hands of his American jailors up to within a couple of hours of his hanging I could conceive of them giving him a mild tranquilizer to help him be calm. But I think he had been handed over to Iraqi authorities long enough that anything would have worn off and they definitely wouldn't have wanted to do anything to make his execution easier for him. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
[FairfieldLife] What is the relationship between God and Devatas?
MAHARISHI: Just as in any government there is a head of state, there is a prime minister, there are assemblies - hierarchy. Wherever there is organization, wherever there is action, there is hierarchical organization. Like that we can understand in terms of different devatas. All the different devatas - it will be easier to partition the range of devatas in two values: silence and dynamism. Silence is upheld by Shiva and dynamism is upheld by Vishnu. And between the two Ganapati holds the rains of any coordination wherever, so that there is no lack of coordination. It is very beautiful. There is nothing for us. God in terms of anything. We can talk about God, we can define about God in terms of anything. The same way in terms of anything we can talk about devatas, of Shiva and Vishnu. There are Ganas of Shiva. Gana means like the sparks of intelligence. There is one ocean of intelligence and then the sprouting, single waves of intelligence. Waves of intelligence, they distinguish themself from one another. So there is a field of many in this way. We can talk in terms of many, many devatas...
[FairfieldLife] Re: What is the relationship between God and Devatas?
I'm not sure that we can conclude from the database realm to the spiritual. that being said it is true that relational d.b. is being used far more than hierarchical. The main reason is that it was difficult to model a many-to-many relationship, However, we now that in a web world that demands quick access to data, XML is being used to facilitate this,and XML has, of course, a hierarchical structure and for good reasons: speed, better handling of data elements, easier administration, and handling of unexpected elements. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, larry.potter larry.potter@ wrote: MAHARISHI: Just as in any government there is a head of state, there is a prime minister, there are assemblies - hierarchy. Wherever there is organization, wherever there is action, there is hierarchical organization... Just to try to discuss a spiritual topic for a change :-), government (or organization of any kind) does *not* imply hierarchy. Just as relational databases are generally more efficient and flexible than hierarchical databases, organizations that are run relationally tend to be more efficient and flexible than organi- zations that are run hierarchically. I thus find it difficult to believe that the universe has arranged itself hierarchically. I fully understand that Maharishi grew up in a culture that sees the universe arranged that way, but I really do not. Maybe it's an Occam's Razor nerd thing -- it's pretty well established that in the world of computing relational kicks hierarchical's ass. Why should I believe that the universe is not as smart as a buncha nerds? :-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'The Fear of Enlightenment'
I've enjoyed the input/example :), it resonates with the 'chop wood carry water' theme. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, larry.potter larry.potter@ wrote: Tom wrote: Jim Flanegin writes snipped I like to think of it in terms of who we identify with. In waking state I identified with Jim. After waking state, I identify with whatever. Sometimes Jim, sometimes not, sometimes past, sometimes here, sometimes there, sometimes future. Doesn't matter- One thing is for certain- there is a *lot* more freedom, whether I like it or not. Sometimes I revel in the infinite, and other times it is like falling continuously without end, and grabbing for a rope that is never there for long. It is incomprehensible intellectually and comprehensible only through being. Tom T: Jed McKenna (a FF Ru using a pseudoname) wrote in his book Spiritual Enlightenment the Damndest THing. That one could charaterize the above feeling as Free Fall Forever and another awake friend said it is all teflon all the way down with absolutely nothing to cling to, attach to, or lean on. Now that really is incomprehensible by the mind but just fine with consciousness. Tom Is that the reason there are so many dysfunctional individuals in the movement or other similar spiritual groups, due to the fact that they can not cling to anything ? If so, what would McKenna or others advise to resolve it or better said smooth it in order that those who in that free-fall forever state can also be productive in what we call the daily life? Don't be attached to the non-attachment! :-) Seriously, don't confuse the inner state with the outer responsibilities. Today I woke up at 5:30, meditated, and then began reinstalling my sink disposal, which has developed a leak due to the plumbing connecting the disposal to the drainage pipes being cut slightly too short by the original installer, causing the disposal to cant about 5-7 degrees off level, causing greater stress on the plumber's putty seal on the sink drain, eventually leading to a leak- - which I have now repaired by essentially taking everything apart and putting it back together again- three hours. Also spoke with someone at length about a possible learning program redesign contract for a computer networks audience, which is what I do when not repairing the plumbing. I use the above as an example of how grounded and normal anyone can be while still experiencing free-fall forever during daily life. By progressively culturing both states of awareness, inner and outer, over time they exist simul;taneously, clearly, without conflict, and without any *impairment* (lol!) to our daily activity.
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'The Fear of Enlightenment'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Larry Potter writes snipped: Part 1 Is that the reason there are so many dysfunctional individuals in the movement or other similar spiritual groups, due to the fact that they can not cling to anything ? Tom T answer to part 1 The dysfunctional individuals are those still trying to cling to a concept about what IT was going to be like. Give up the clinging and get with the free fall and all is seen as perfect. Larry Potter Part 2 If so, what would McKenna or others advise to resolve it or better said smooth it in order that those who in that free-fall forever state can also be productive in what we call the daily life? Tom answers Part 2; Who has said anything about those in free fall being unproductive? Your concept being laid on that which you can not understand. Being in free fall is absolutely delicious. Nothing to fear and no ability to hold or get stuck in fear. I find that I sometimes put in a 23 hour day and get right up and go for another 16 or 18 on 6 to 8 hours rest. I am 65 and have never felt better or had more energy in my life. With no fear in my life I have no wasted energy in dealing with those feelings that fear used to bring up. AS Neal Donald Walsh put it so eloquently in Conversations with God. FEAR is an acronym for False Evidence that Appears Real. Fear is just another idea. Get with the flow and things are as they are, enjoyable. Enjoy Tom I see, thanks for the input. That being said it looks that when Suzanne was describing her fear it wasn't absolutely delicious as you described, possibly her fear was removed later on .
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'The Fear of Enlightenment'
Tom wrote: Jim Flanegin writes snipped I like to think of it in terms of who we identify with. In waking state I identified with Jim. After waking state, I identify with whatever. Sometimes Jim, sometimes not, sometimes past, sometimes here, sometimes there, sometimes future. Doesn't matter- One thing is for certain- there is a *lot* more freedom, whether I like it or not. Sometimes I revel in the infinite, and other times it is like falling continuously without end, and grabbing for a rope that is never there for long. It is incomprehensible intellectually and comprehensible only through being. Tom T: Jed McKenna (a FF Ru using a pseudoname) wrote in his book Spiritual Enlightenment the Damndest THing. That one could charaterize the above feeling as Free Fall Forever and another awake friend said it is all teflon all the way down with absolutely nothing to cling to, attach to, or lean on. Now that really is incomprehensible by the mind but just fine with consciousness. Tom Is that the reason there are so many dysfunctional individuals in the movement or other similar spiritual groups, due to the fact that they can not cling to anything ? If so, what would McKenna or others advise to resolve it or better said smooth it in order that those who in that free-fall forever state can also be productive in what we call the daily life?
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'The Fear of Enlightenment'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Peter wrote: --- Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Peter wrote: --- sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter drpetersutphen@ wrote: Great description of pure CC. Watch how everyone is going to jump all over your post of her writings and dismiss it because it won't fit their waking state concept of CC. Who can say who is enlightened? However, my own OPINION is that people can mistake pathological witnessing for CC and visa versa. How would you define pathological witnessing? I assume you mean the experience of derealization. The difference between the two is that in derealization there is a me that is experienced as disconnected and distant from experiencing: I seem to be a million miles away. But in CC there is no self or me that is localized to be either far away or close. How would you function if you cannot localize enough to deal with paying your bills or driving a car? You're confounding consciousness with mind. Two entirely different things in realization but not in waking state. The mind pays the bills and drives the car, not consciousness. The mind is a siddhi of consciousness. No you don't understand what I'm saying. Certainly the mind is contained in consciousness but what happens if the local tax collector calls you and says Peter, you own $5,000 in back taxes and have to pay up by the end of the month or we'll take your house. Do you remain meless or does the Peter and the tax bill suddenly become the center of focus? My bet it is the latter. :) i think in different ways you guys saying the same thing ...
[FairfieldLife] this yahoo server has hiccups
i've sent three posts only one showed so far.. hmmm
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'The Fear of Enlightenment'
big snip. trying again, let see if it goes this time .. Walking home from that bus ride, she felt like a cloud of awareness following the body. The cloud was a witness located behind and to the left of the body and completely separate from body, mind and emotions. The witness was constant and so was FEAR, the fear of complete physical dissolution. The witnessing continued for several months, even during sleep, and Segal had to endure the fear and the accompanying stress, finding relief in long and frequent sleeps. .. I find SUZANNE's description to have contradictions, but maybe some sees it in a different light. If Suzanne got to such detached state of non-localize witnessing as she describes, how can she feel fear and terror at the same time? Fear is only a delusion of a localized consciousness , meaning, attachment to the boundaries while some of her description suggests pure witnessing state, non boundaries state. maybe she was just in a transition states and her description is a mere of what her mind was telling her what she is witnessing, I wouldn't take a face-value to her statements..
[FairfieldLife] Skilling Sentenced to 24 Years in Prison
http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/061023/enron_skilling.html?.v=26 ouch, being greedy and a thief is a disastrous combination. poor guy.. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Skilling Sentenced to 24 Years in Prison
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, larry.potter larry.potter@ wrote: http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/061023/enron_skilling.html?.v=26 ouch, being greedy and a thief is a disastrous combination. poor guy.. What I find most interesting about the Enron story is someone named John Chanos who is a Wall Street Trader who was one of the first to see that Enron was built on fantasy. He ended up making 10s of millions because he shorted Enron stock (and advised his clients to do the same) when it was at its peak. But Chanos did it the old-fashioned way: he actually studied Enron's financial statements. He saw anomalies and instead of like 99% of everyone else who was trading Enron stock and were euphoric and on the bandwagon about its success, he rolled up his sleeves and went into all the little details, found it to be a house of cards, and sold short. Which begs the question: if Chanos could see the truth, why couldn't the others? Were they too lazy? while they were making money they didn't care for the details, the truth just got in the way. (also many working guys don't know how to read these financial statements. Enron, as you know, was big corp and I'm sure it was not an easy task to figure out what's going on.) To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Skilling Sentenced to 24 Years in Prison
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, larry.potter larry.potter@ wrote: http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/061023/enron_skilling.html?.v=26 ouch, being greedy and a thief is a disastrous combination. poor guy.. Look this prison facility up on Google before you act so smug. It's a country club for white collar criminals... will one of these will do the it ? http://tinyurl.com/yx5ba5 To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Google's Price
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: snip For example, Google is currently at $480 a share. But there's no way that their price/earnings ratio both now or in the future can justify that Not true. Current PE is around 40. Forward PE is about 35. a. Current PE is around 70, not sure how you got 40, b. Forward PE is usably not reliable. http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=GOOG Did TM-Sidhis made you a better investor/trader? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Kudos to the Nobel Committee: my faith is renewed!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A few days ago I expressed my disgust at the possibility that Cindy Sheehan could be a winner of the Nobel Peace Prize. In the process I expressed my disdain at the Nobel prize committee for even considering her and past losers like the Dalai Llama and Jimmy Carter. or evil Arafat. Well, the just-announced winner sounds really terrific! A Bangladeshi business man who, through a private enterprise initiative, set up a low-cost loan system for poor people to lift them out of poverty...97% of whom women were the recipients. Talk about Age of Enlightenment news. Wonderful choice. Wonderful indeed, i was thinking the same thing. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Kudos to the Nobel Committee: my faith is renewed!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: snip When your loan has been paid back (usually in 6 to 12 months), you can get your money back (you don't get any interest) or loan it to another business. Kiva's loan repayment rate is currently 100%. Here's Kiva's FAQ, which gives details of how it works: http://www.kiva.org/app.php?page=aboutaction=faq Gosh, what a fabulous idea all around. What I like is that you can recycle the money you send Kiva as many times as you want. Most donations you make, once you give the money, it's gone. This *feels* more productive, somehow. yes, it does feels more productive and it would be interesting to follow up with the business and see how they are doing .. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] I used to think that God is truth now I realize that truth is God. M.G. (p)
Water is set in 1938, when India was still under the colonial rule of the British, and when the marriage of children to older men was commonplace. When a man died, his widow would be forced to spend the rest of her life in a widow's ashram, an institution for widows to make amends for the sins from her previous life that supposedly caused her husband's death. are you familiar with Deepa Mehta's films? I saw Water yesterday and it's lovely but makes you uncomfortable at the same time. Amazing to think that such a concept would be part of any society. if you like to see it with fresh eyes you might want to skip reading the full synopsis, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_(film) To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: I used to think that God is truth now I realize that truth is God. M.G. (p)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, larry.potter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Water is set in 1938, when India was still under the colonial rule of the British, and when the marriage of children to older men was commonplace. When a man died, his widow would be forced to spend the rest of her life in a widow's ashram, an institution for widows to make amends for the sins from her previous life that supposedly caused her husband's death. are you familiar with Deepa Mehta's films? I saw Water yesterday and it's lovely but makes you uncomfortable at the same time. Amazing to think that such a concept would be part of any society. if you like to see it with fresh eyes you might want to skip reading the full synopsis, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_(film) reposting the link above: http://tinyurl.com/ye3coa To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] No Clash / Wafa
[ i respect Wafa and think she is the best thing that happen to Islam in the recent decade. She is a true free thinker. JMHO ] 2/21/2006 Clip No. 1050 Arab-American Psychiatrist Wafa Sultan: There is No Clash of Civilizations but a Clash between the Mentality of the Middle Ages and That of the 21st Century Following are excerpts from an interview with Arab-American psychiatrist Wafa Sultan. The interview was aired on Al-Jazeera TV on February 21, 2006 . Wafa Sultan: The clash we are witnessing around the world is not a clash of religions, or a clash of civilizations. It is a clash between two opposites, between two eras. It is a clash between a mentality that belongs to the Middle Ages and another mentality that belongs to the 21st century. It is a clash between civilization and backwardness, between the civilized and the primitive, between barbarity and rationality. It is a clash between freedom and oppression, between democracy and dictatorship. It is a clash between human rights, on the one hand, and the violation of these rights, on other hand. It is a clash between those who treat women like beasts, and those who treat them like human beings. What we see today is not a clash of civilizations. Civilizations do not clash, but compete. [...] Host: I understand from your words that what is happening today is a clash between the culture of the West, and the backwardness and ignorance of the Muslims? Wafa Sultan: Yes, that is what I mean. [...] Host: Who came up with the concept of a clash of civilizations? Was it not Samuel Huntington? It was not Bin Laden. I would like to discuss this issue, if you don't mind... Wafa Sultan: The Muslims are the ones who began using this expression. The Muslims are the ones who began the clash of civilizations. The Prophet of Islam said: I was ordered to fight the people until they believe in Allah and His Messenger. When the Muslims divided the people into Muslims and non-Muslims, and called to fight the others until they believe in what they themselves believe, they started this clash, and began this war. In order to stop this war, they must reexamine their Islamic books and curricula, which are full of calls for takfir and fighting the infidels. My colleague has said that he never offends other people's beliefs. What civilization on the face of this earth allows him to call other people by names that they did not choose for themselves? Once, he calls them Ahl Al-Dhimma, another time he calls them the People of the Book, and yet another time he compares them to apes and pigs, or he calls the Christians those who incur Allah's wrath. Who told you that they are People of the Book? They are not the People of the Book, they are people of many books. All the useful scientific books that you have today are theirs, the fruit of their free and creative thinking. What gives you the right to call them those who incur Allah's wrath, or those who have gone astray, and then come here and say that your religion commands you to refrain from offending the beliefs of others? I am not a Christian, a Muslim, or a Jew. I am a secular human being. I do not believe in the supernatural, but I respect others' right to believe in it. Dr. Ibrahim Al-Khouli: Are you a heretic? Wafa Sultan: You can say whatever you like. I am a secular human being who does not believe in the supernatural... Dr. Ibrahim Al-Khouli: If you are a heretic, there is no point in rebuking you, since you have blasphemed against Islam, the Prophet, and the Koran... Wafa Sultan: These are personal matters that do not concern you. [...] Wafa Sultan: Brother, you can believe in stones, as long as you don't throw them at me. You are free to worship whoever you want, but other people's beliefs are not your concern, whether they believe that the Messiah is God, son of Mary, or that Satan is God, son of Mary. Let people have their beliefs. [...] Wafa Sultan: The Jews have come from the tragedy (of the Holocaust), and forced the world to respect them, with their knowledge, not with their terror, with their work, not their crying and yelling. Humanity owes most of the discoveries and science of the 19th and 20th centuries to Jewish scientists. 15 million people, scattered throughout the world, united and won their rights through work and knowledge. We have not seen a single Jew blow himself up in a German restaurant. We have not seen a single Jew destroy a church. We have not seen a single Jew protest by killing people. The Muslims have turned three Buddha statues into rubble. We have not seen a single Buddhist burn down a Mosque, kill a Muslim, or burn down an embassy. Only the Muslims defend their beliefs by burning down churches, killing people, and destroying embassies. This path will not yield any results. The Muslims must ask themselves what they can do for humankind, before they demand that humankind respect them. -
[FairfieldLife] Re: No Clash / Wafa
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, larry.potter larry.potter@ wrote: Here's the same transcript on video: http://tinyurl.com/ze772 Thanks, she is a very courageous woman. as for how much it will influence people's mind set in the near future i'm not sure. but i am happy it came out from the a Muslim. [ i respect Wafa and think she is the best thing that happen to Islam in the recent decade. She is a true free thinker. JMHO ] 2/21/2006 Clip No. 1050 Arab-American Psychiatrist Wafa Sultan: There is No Clash of Civilizations but a Clash between the Mentality of the Middle Ages and That of the 21st Century Following are excerpts from an interview with Arab-American psychiatrist Wafa Sultan. The interview was aired on Al-Jazeera TV on February 21, 2006 . Wafa Sultan: The clash we are witnessing around the world is not a clash of religions, or a clash of civilizations. It is a clash between two opposites, between two eras. It is a clash between a mentality that belongs to the Middle Ages and another mentality that belongs to the 21st century. It is a clash between civilization and backwardness, between the civilized and the primitive, between barbarity and rationality. It is a clash between freedom and oppression, between democracy and dictatorship. It is a clash between human rights, on the one hand, and the violation of these rights, on other hand. It is a clash between those who treat women like beasts, and those who treat them like human beings. What we see today is not a clash of civilizations. Civilizations do not clash, but compete. [...] Host: I understand from your words that what is happening today is a clash between the culture of the West, and the backwardness and ignorance of the Muslims? Wafa Sultan: Yes, that is what I mean. [...] Host: Who came up with the concept of a clash of civilizations? Was it not Samuel Huntington? It was not Bin Laden. I would like to discuss this issue, if you don't mind... Wafa Sultan: The Muslims are the ones who began using this expression. The Muslims are the ones who began the clash of civilizations. The Prophet of Islam said: I was ordered to fight the people until they believe in Allah and His Messenger. When the Muslims divided the people into Muslims and non-Muslims, and called to fight the others until they believe in what they themselves believe, they started this clash, and began this war. In order to stop this war, they must reexamine their Islamic books and curricula, which are full of calls for takfir and fighting the infidels. My colleague has said that he never offends other people's beliefs. What civilization on the face of this earth allows him to call other people by names that they did not choose for themselves? Once, he calls them Ahl Al-Dhimma, another time he calls them the People of the Book, and yet another time he compares them to apes and pigs, or he calls the Christians those who incur Allah's wrath. Who told you that they are People of the Book? They are not the People of the Book, they are people of many books. All the useful scientific books that you have today are theirs, the fruit of their free and creative thinking. What gives you the right to call them those who incur Allah's wrath, or those who have gone astray, and then come here and say that your religion commands you to refrain from offending the beliefs of others? I am not a Christian, a Muslim, or a Jew. I am a secular human being. I do not believe in the supernatural, but I respect others' right to believe in it. Dr. Ibrahim Al-Khouli: Are you a heretic? Wafa Sultan: You can say whatever you like. I am a secular human being who does not believe in the supernatural... Dr. Ibrahim Al-Khouli: If you are a heretic, there is no point in rebuking you, since you have blasphemed against Islam, the Prophet, and the Koran... Wafa Sultan: These are personal matters that do not concern you. [...] Wafa Sultan: Brother, you can believe in stones, as long as you don't throw them at me. You are free to worship whoever you want, but other people's beliefs are not your concern, whether they believe that the Messiah is God, son of Mary, or that Satan is God, son of Mary. Let people have their beliefs. [...] Wafa Sultan: The Jews have come from the tragedy (of the Holocaust), and forced the world to respect them, with their knowledge, not with their terror, with their work, not their crying and yelling. Humanity owes most of the discoveries and science of the 19th and 20th centuries to Jewish scientists. 15 million people, scattered throughout the world, united
[FairfieldLife] mind reading
O lny srmat poelpe can raed tihs. I cdnuolt blveiee taht I cluod aulaclty uesdnatnrd waht I was rdanieg. The phaonmneal pweor of the hmuan mnid, aoccdrnig to a rscheearch at Cmabrigde Uinervtisy, it deosn't mttaer in waht oredr the ltteers in a wrod are, the olny iprmoatnt tihng is taht the frist and lsat l tteer be in the rghit pclae. The rset can be a taotl mses and you can sitll raed it wouthit a porbelm. Tihs is bcuseae the huamn mnid deos not raed ervey lteter by istlef, but the wrod as a wlohe. Amzanig huh? yaeh and I awlyas tghuhot slpeling was ipmorantt! Ifyoucan raed tihs psastion !! __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Your email settings: Individual Email|Traditional Change settings via the Web (Yahoo! ID required) Change settings via email: Switch delivery to Daily Digest | Switch to Fully Featured Visit Your Group | Yahoo! Groups Terms of Use | Unsubscribe __,_._,___
[FairfieldLife] Re: Tehran and Damascus are gearing up for a pre-emptive Syrian attack
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Appeal to FEAR, as usual. Fear ? B. take of your 'fear' type of glasses off and you might see things differently... --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, larry.potter larry.potter@ wrote: Tehran and Damascus are gearing up for a pre-emptive Syrian attack on Israel to ward off a US strike on Iran's nuclear sites [http://www.debka.com/photos/3357.jpg] Our military and Washington sources read as preparatory justification the Syrian ruler Bashar Asad's statement Saturday, Oct. 7, that he expects an Israeli attack. He was speaking in an interview to Kuwaiti paper al-Anba. Asad's Iranian-backed war plan would serve the purpose of forcing the Americans to divide their military assets between a strike against Iran and the defense of their allies in the Persia Gulf, Israel and US forces in Iraq. Both are seriously looking at a Syrian attack on the Golan which would escalate into a full-blown Syrian-Israeli war and a second Hizballah assault from Lebanon. Asad's remark that during the Lebanon hostilities, he was under pressure from the Syrian population to go to war against Israel and liberate the Golan is the most direct threat of belligerency of all his four Golan statements in the last month. He is implying that he stood up to the pressure once but may not do so again. And for the benefit of the Americans, the Europeans, the Saudis and the Egyptians - all of whom are pretty fed up with him Asad is posing as the picture of self-restraint; anyone else in his place, he implies, would have taken advantage of the Lebanon war and made a grab for the Golan. Therefore, he is saying, he deserves to be treated with the respect due to a strategic asset by Western and moderate Arab powers instead of being targeted for an ouster. The Syrian ruler would not threaten war without guarantees from Iran. According to DEBKAfile's sources, Asad and Iran's supreme ruler Ayatollah Ali Khamenei are prompted by the following motives: 1. Tehran is not prepared to wait passively for the Americans to build up their assault force in the Gulf and strike its nuclear facilities. A pre-emptive attack would suit them better. 2. Tehran and Damascus have not missed the debilitating crisis in which Israel's political and military leadership are sunk since the Lebanon war. They do not propose to wait until the IDF pulls itself together enough to handle fresh aggression. 3. Both accept Israel's deputy prime minister Shimon Peres' assessment that Israel's cities are not prepared for missile attack. Iran and Syria take it for granted that Israeli leaders understand they cannot afford to launch missiles against either one of them for fear of reprisal in kind. 4. Syria believes that if Hizballah could stand up to the Israeli army in Lebanon, its commandoes can capture sections of the Golan and walk off with an easy victory. 5. Tehran figures that the Bush administration is coming to the end of its patience in Iraq and preparing for a major review of its position there. The influential U.S. Senate Armed Services Committee Chairman, John Warner, said Friday that Iraq's government had 60 to 90 days to control the violence that threatens civil war or the United States would have to reconsider its options. This gives the Maliki government in Baghdad up to December or January to de-escalate if not halt the sectarian war engulfing the country. Iran, Syria and Hizballah would not be averse to disrupting the American Iraq timeline by attacking Israel and putting the Bush administration on the spot, forced to address three warfronts simultaneously. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Tehran and Damascus are gearing up for a pre-emptive Syrian attack
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, larry.potter larry.potter@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: Appeal to FEAR, as usual. Fear ? B. take of your 'fear' type of glasses off and you might see things differently... Dude, almost everything you post here reeks of fear. You may choose to live in that mindset, but I do not. it looks you are projecting your fears or agenda onto others ... Debka unique analytical sources have proved to me and other readers that their analytical view of current events and forward looking insights are to the point and precise. I sure do hope that they are wrong on this one, or that new events will take place that will eliminate any future violence in the mid east. barry, with your record of misinterpretation other people's words and intentions, why I'm not surprised that you are confused ?! To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Unfoldments of Brahman
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: With deepest gratitude to MMY and Guru Dev, we wish to correct some Understandings of Brahman we gave here last year. Within the 27 Nakshatra-states, the middle third or 9 central ones are those of Brahma(n), or Light, or Consciousness: Brahma-Shiva-Shiva (B-S-S) or Mahaturiya Brahma-Shiva-Brahma (B-S-B) or Maharishi (Brahman) Brahma-Shiva-Vishnu (B-S-V) or Mahadevata (Krishna) Brahma-Brahma-Shiva (B-B-S) or Mahachandas (Shiva) Brahma-Brahma-Brahma (B-B-B) or Solar Angel, Lamp at the Door Brahma-Brahma-Vishnu (B-B-V), or chandas (U.C.) Brahma-Vishnu-Shiva (B-V-S), or devata (G.C.) Brahma-Vishnu-Brahma (B-V-B), or rishi (C.C.) Brahma-Vishnu-Vishnu (B-V-V), or turiya (T.C.) Within these 9, the centermost one is Brahma-Brahma-Brahma (B-B- B), the Lamp at the Door, the Solar Angel who resides in the Sacred Heart (Solar Plexus) as the intermediary between the Absolute (Rudra, Shiva, or Purusha) and the Relative (Indra, Vishnu or Shakti). In truth, this is the only state of Consciousness that actually exists -- the supreme radiance of the perfect Now, the juncture- point of Heaven and Earth. From here, we can (eventually) see that all the states that led here -- T.C. or Turiya (Brahma-Vishnu- Vishnu; B-V-V), C.C. or Rishi (Brahma-Vishnu-Brahma; B-V-B) G. C. or Devata(Brahma-Vishnu-Shiva; B-V-S), and U.C. or Chandas(Brahma-Brahma-Vishnu; B-B-V) are but identification with a time-bound particle or I within Our wholeness. We have been approaching the Now from an (unconscious) identification with a particle on the Relative side. But in actuality, there has been a very simple, innocent, unqualified Absolute side of Us approaching this Now as the Wholeness or container of the experience(s), in perfect reflection to the Relative side. When our particle-self thinks it is in T.C. (B- V-V), our Wholeness is Mahaturiya (B-S-S); when our particle- self attains C.C. or Rishi (B-V-B), our Wholeness is Brahman itself: that particle's Witness, its Maharishi (B-S-B); when our particle-self attains G.C. or Devata (B-V-S), our Wholeness is that particle's loving Personal God or Krishna-Avatar, its Mahadevata (B-S-V); and when our particle-self attains U.C. or Chandas (B-B-V), our Wholeness is that particle's Shiva, its Mahachandas (B-B-S). These two sides -- the Absolute and the Relative, the Whole and the Particle -- culminate in their fusion in the mid-most state of Brahma-Brahma-Brahma (B-B-B). The simple, ordinary, very quiet thought we had from the Absolute side with reference to nurturing our particles creates the intensely devotional appreciation of that thought from the Devata or sensory particle side, and the corresponding display of that thought as the Reality of the Outer, so that the rishi, devata, and chandas are fully appreciated as OneSelf. Thus we can say that C.C. is our particle's appreciation of our Brahman-Self; G.C. is our particle's appreciation of our Krishna- Self, and U.C. is our particle's appreciation of our Shiva-Self -- all culminating in ourSelf as Brahma(n), the Perfect Light of the Sacred Heart. This is our natural, simple, a priori state of consciousness. This is what we have always been, and what we always will be, regardless of the stories our Wholeness and our particles have been telling us/themselves. From here, the process continues -- with any and every particle we find within ourSelf. We first find ourselves identifying unconsciously with that particle, giving that particle unconscious sovereignty -- at this time the particle is in Ignorance in our Brahman. Then, we realize that this is not Us, but a particle within Us -- we then become that particle's Witness, its conscious Brahman - - while it is identifying with C.C. Then, we give that particle our loving attention, warming it up into its a priori bliss, becoming its personal God or Avatar or Krishna, while it is identifying with G.C. Then it perceives its ultimate identity with us in Shiva/U.C., and we finally come back to primordial Radiant Self. We are constantly throwing off particles of not-self, and re-integrating them back into ourSelf, as pulsations of our Now into all 9 (and eventually 27) states -- this is how we learn to appreciate ourSelf and our various qualities... Brahmarishi Indradevata Rudrachandas h, long time no see here; nice unfolding above... jgd To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change
[FairfieldLife] Re: Tom Cruise Day in Japan
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jeff Fischer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.allheadlinenews.com/articles/7005128423 the cutie-patootie actor was recently that's funny, lol. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Tom Cruise Day in Japan
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: snip Sadly, it's also unfair. Both Cruise and Brad Pitt don't get enough credit for their acting because of their good looks. I don't care much for Cruise, but I'm a huge Pitt fan. My favorite film of his is Meet Joe Black. It's very long and very slow and very talky, and you have to be *very* relaxed to sit through it. But he has some genuinely transcendent scenes that give me goose bumps. was a bit stretchy but along side Anthony Hopkins, you can't go wrong now, can you. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Tom Cruise Day in Japan
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, larry.potter larry.potter@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jeff Fischer jeffcandace@ wrote: http://www.allheadlinenews.com/articles/7005128423 the cutie-patootie actor was recently that's funny, lol. It is. Sadly, it's also unfair. Both Cruise and Brad Pitt don't get enough credit for their acting because of their good looks. In fact, I believe that Tom Cruise should have got the Oscar for Rain Man instead of Dustin Hoffman. His straight man role was much harder and more complex to do than the predictable handicapped spotlight role Hoffman got. absolutely, can't agree more. that being said I am Hoffman fan, I can't recall a movie that he played that I didn't liked. Straw dogs, marathon man were great, i liked him in Meet the Fockers which was hilarious. And I'm amazed at how good Pitt is in things such as Snatch where he played a mumbling Irish Gypsy prizefighter or Troy in which he played Achilles where his physicality alone should have won him the Oscar. yup,not like Tom, i do believe that Pitt get the much credit though. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Tehran and Damascus are gearing up for a pre-emptive Syrian attack
Tehran and Damascus are gearing up for a pre-emptive Syrian attack on Israel to ward off a US strike on Iran's nuclear sites Our military and Washington sources read as preparatory justification the Syrian ruler Bashar Asad's statement Saturday, Oct. 7, that he expects an Israeli attack. He was speaking in an interview to Kuwaiti paper al-Anba. Asad's Iranian-backed war plan would serve the purpose of forcing the Americans to divide their military assets between a strike against Iran and the defense of their allies in the Persia Gulf, Israel and US forces in Iraq. Both are seriously looking at a Syrian attack on the Golan which would escalate into a full-blown Syrian-Israeli war and a second Hizballah assault from Lebanon. Asad's remark that during the Lebanon hostilities, he was under pressure from the Syrian population to go to war against Israel and liberate the Golan is the most direct threat of belligerency of all his four Golan statements in the last month. He is implying that he stood up to the pressure once but may not do so again. And for the benefit of the Americans, the Europeans, the Saudis and the Egyptians - all of whom are pretty fed up with him Asad is posing as the picture of self-restraint; anyone else in his place, he implies, would have taken advantage of the Lebanon war and made a grab for the Golan. Therefore, he is saying, he deserves to be treated with the respect due to a strategic asset by Western and moderate Arab powers instead of being targeted for an ouster. The Syrian ruler would not threaten war without guarantees from Iran. According to DEBKAfile's sources, Asad and Iran's supreme ruler Ayatollah Ali Khamenei are prompted by the following motives: 1. Tehran is not prepared to wait passively for the Americans to build up their assault force in the Gulf and strike its nuclear facilities. A pre-emptive attack would suit them better. 2. Tehran and Damascus have not missed the debilitating crisis in which Israel's political and military leadership are sunk since the Lebanon war. They do not propose to wait until the IDF pulls itself together enough to handle fresh aggression. 3. Both accept Israel's deputy prime minister Shimon Peres' assessment that Israel's cities are not prepared for missile attack. Iran and Syria take it for granted that Israeli leaders understand they cannot afford to launch missiles against either one of them for fear of reprisal in kind. 4. Syria believes that if Hizballah could stand up to the Israeli army in Lebanon, its commandoes can capture sections of the Golan and walk off with an easy victory. 5. Tehran figures that the Bush administration is coming to the end of its patience in Iraq and preparing for a major review of its position there. The influential U.S. Senate Armed Services Committee Chairman, John Warner, said Friday that Iraq's government had 60 to 90 days to control the violence that threatens civil war or the United States would have to reconsider its options. This gives the Maliki government in Baghdad up to December or January to de-escalate if not halt the sectarian war engulfing the country. Iran, Syria and Hizballah would not be averse to disrupting the American Iraq timeline by attacking Israel and putting the Bush administration on the spot, forced to address three warfronts simultaneously. __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Your email settings: Individual Email|Traditional Change settings via the Web (Yahoo! ID required) Change settings via email: Switch delivery to Daily Digest | Switch to Fully Featured Visit Your Group | Yahoo! Groups Terms of Use | Unsubscribe __,_._,___
[FairfieldLife] Re: Pulling your plonk in Iran
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Khameini: Don't masturbate during Ramadan ... He is also asked whether it is permissible for a man to marry a woman only in order to be able to live in his wife's country. Can a man conclude a marriage contract for a year with a European girl after getting her agreement with the purpose of going to her country? A reader asked. There is no problem in that if they are serious in contracting marriage and it is done with her father's permission if she is virgin, Khameini ruled. i see, so no problem to cheat on that Ramadan. what about killing infidels, if i kill 3 infidels do i get to go to heaven? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] UNIFIL seems to be doing NOTHING against resumption of Hizballahs rearmament
On Yom Kippur, Oct. 2, 24 hours after the last Israeli soldier left South Lebanon and the day before UNIFIL published its rules of engagement, Hizballah placed roadblocks on all the approaches to the central sector of the South and the entrances to the towns and villages reoccupied by its forces and their rocket units. These enclaves were declared closed military zones. DEBKAfile's exclusive military and Western intelligence sources report that neither the Lebanese army which moved south nor the international peacekeepers of UNIFIL venture to set foot in these enclaves. Nor did they raise a finger to block the first broad- daylight consignment of advanced Iranian weapons to be delivered in Lebanon via Syria since the August 14 ceasefire. This coordinated Hizballah-Iranian-Syrian ploy has brought into question the point of UN Security Council Resolution 1701 which was to prevent the resumption of hostilities and Hizballah's rearmament while helping the Beirut government and army assert its sovereignty in the South. It has also made a mockery of the UN Force and its missions. These developments effectively assign UN Security Council resolution 1701 to the same dustbin as resolution 1559 which ordered Hizballah disarmed. It is especially noted that the Israeli government has made no military or diplomatic response to these violations, or even informed the public that Hizballah has redeployed in the precise positions from which it blitzed Haifa, Nahariya, Carmiel, Acre and W. Galilee for more than a month. ... To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: cosmic ripples
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante no_reply@ wrote: snip When I say Vedic science, I was not referring to the stories, but to the reality, the core teaching of the Vedas, that bliss consciousness is all that there is or ever was -- phenomenal reality is just maya, not really existing, creation (which never took place, just as there was never any water in the river of a mirage) is just the apparent play of that infinite awareness. Be without the three gunas through practice of Trancendental Meditation, and you get a ringside seat as the eternal silent witness of all the phenomenal activity without suffering due to being attached to the ups and downs of creation. what 'ups and downs of creation' ? better said 'ups and downs' of human awareness. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] nahhh
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[FairfieldLife] FBI: Hizbullah still a threat
US counterterror experts testify that group continues to threaten Lebanese government, Israel and has ability to launch an attack on the US as well. FBI official: Hizbullah sympathizers in US raise money through money laundering, drug trafficking and fraud Associated Press US Counterterrorism officials on Thursday testified that Hizbullah 's capable, well-trained fighters continue to threaten the survival of Lebanon's government, Israel and US interests around the world. Frank Urbancic, a State Department counterterrorism official, told the House of Representatives' International Relations Committee that Hizbullah enjoys a symbiotic relationship with Iran and Syria , receiving money, arms and training. Counterterrorism official with the Federal Bureau of Investigation, John Kavanagh, called Hizbullah one of the world's most capable terrorist groups, A well-trained guerrilla force that is proficient in military tactics and weaponry. Hizbullah's leader Hassan Nasrallah recently told thousands of supporters that the group still has 20,000 rockets. Threat to US? Kavanagh said that although Hizbullah has the ability to launch an attack on the United States, it has not done so since the 1996 attack on the Khobar Towers dormitory in Saudi Arabia that killed 19 US military personnel. Hizbullah sympathizers in the United States, Kavanagh said, have laundered money, trafficked drugs and engaged in bank and credit card fraud. Hizbullah has acted as a willing partner in Iran's long-standing efforts to combat US interests it perceives as at odds with its own, Urbancic said. That relationship, he testified, remained firm throughout the 34 days of fighting between Israel and Hizbullah that ended with a cease-fire last month. We believe that Hizbullah's decision to exacerbate the conflict with indiscriminate rocket attacks into Israel targeting Israeli civilians could not have happened without at least the tacit support of Tehran, Urbancic said. Hizbullah's military profile has recently dipped in the south, he said, although it was unclear to officials if that was because of po litical concerns or losses suffered in the war. He said that Hizbullah has deep roots and broad support, noting its quick reconstruction and humanitarian work after the fighting with Israel ended, Well in advance of international donor efforts. A US indictment alleges that a smuggling ring in the state of Michigan dealt in contraband cigarettes and other items, steering some of the profits to Hizbullah guerrillas. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: FBI: Hizbullah still a threat
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, larry.potter larry.potter@ wrote: US counterterror experts testify that group continues to threaten Lebanese government, Israel and has ability to launch an attack on the US as well. FBI official: Hizbullah sympathizers in US raise money through money laundering, drug trafficking and fraud Associated Press This is Pre US election Propaganda. tell it to the FBI, I'm sure they realize you know better and that they can't fool you. After all you have better information resources and did so much research. lol as for the rest, please don't let the facts confuse you, after all 'every thing in life is propaganda's when it's convenient.. If you haven't noticed there is a strong propaganda offensive going on currently to convince the US voters that they should renew and escalate their fear of terrorism, and that negative events in the Middle East are the result of terrorist groups vs. the destabilizing efforts of the US in Iraq, and Israel in Lebanon and Palestine. Israel has 75 to 250 nuclear weapons, and undertakes targeted assassinations regularly, which just happen to kill innocent people regularly. This goes much further in destabilizing the Middle East that any other single group. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Unholy Alliance: Radical Islam and the American Left / David Horowitz
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- larry.potter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, larry.potter larry.potter@ wrote: I got the book Unholy Alliance: Radical Islam and the American Left today, which i wonder if anyone read and/or have opinion about. The irony is that i just found out that Chavez very much liked Noam Chomsky's book, Hegemony or Survival and recommended it. well, congrats to the left, you seem to prove Horowitz's points. Though strange bedfellows, America's liberals and radical Muslims stand on suspiciously similar ground in refusing to condemn Islamis terrorism, in criticizing America and the West, and in opposing efforts to export captialism and democracy. Excuse me? Refusing to condemn Islamic terrorism? oh yeh, The anti-American sentiment among leftists is stronger than ever. I'm not referring to the liberals, who are motivated by love of country, but to the left\extreme left in US. leftism is part of the academic curricula (and not just chomsky) but not only, it includes journalists, movie stars and so on. And your source of information on the Islamic loving American liberals? where on earth you see me say that Islamic love American liberals ? The Right? Sort of like Tom Cruise spouting off on the horrors of psychiatry based on Scientology tracts. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Unholy Alliance: Radical Islam and the American Left / David Horowitz
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, larry.potter larry.potter@ wrote: I got the book Unholy Alliance: Radical Islam and the American Left today, which i wonder if anyone read and/or have opinion about. The irony is that i just found out that Chavez very much liked Noam Chomsky's book, Hegemony or Survival and recommended it. well, congrats to the left, you seem to prove Horowitz's points. Though strange bedfellows, America's liberals and radical Muslims stand on suspiciously similar ground in refusing to condemn Islamis terrorism, in criticizing America and the West, and in opposing efforts to export captialism and democracy. Excuse me? Refusing to condemn Islamic terrorism? oh yeh, The anti-American sentiment among leftists is stronger than ever. I'm not referring to the liberals, who are motivated by love of country, but to the left\extreme left in US. leftism is part of the academic curricula (and not just chomsky) but not only, it includes journalists, movie stars and so on. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Why Is It Important To Make TM Into a Cult?'
since Barry is not his body, i guess he wouldn't mind if anyone of us would blow his head off. :) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel babajii_99@ wrote: I'm not sure why it is important to some to make TMO into a cult; And then try to inform others to save them from making their own decisions, concerning their relationship with Maharishi, and the movement. Everyone has his or her life to life, and everyone has the right to make their own decisions, especially those of a spiritual nature. To mock someone's sincere belief, is a kind of fascism, and reminds me of the mocking of the Jews by the Nazis; what's the difference? The Nazis considered the Jews a cult... You speak so much of the 'Bliss-Nazis'; but you follow their example... For the record, this is EXACTLY the mindset I've been talking about this morning. RG is the kind of person who is so attached to his description of self that he believes that what he believes and who he is are the same thing. And that anyone who mocks his beliefs mocks him. IT'S NOT TRUE. We are NOT what we believe. We are NOT the groups we identify with. Robert is NOT a TMer. He is NOT a Jew. When it all comes down, he does NOT even have a self. But because he hasn't realized yet that he doesn't have a self, he clings to that illusion of self and thinks that it exists, and furthermore that it belongs to some group of equally non- existent selves he calls Jews or TMers. Then he gets fearful and threatened when someone disses his group. The Iranians diss the Jews, and he get so terrified that he advocates nuking them here on FFL. A few folks describe the TMO differently than he'd like the group described, and he gets so fearful and threatened that he compares those folks to Nazis. THIS is what happens when you don't know who you really are, and start to identify with that silly, non-existent thing you call self. Even sadder is what happens when one of those non- existent selves is so weak and so lost that it feels whole only when it considers itself part of a group. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Why Is It Important To Make TM Into a Cult?'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, larry.potter larry.potter@ wrote: since Barry is not his body, i guess he wouldn't mind if anyone of us would blow his head off. :) Larry, please don't give him ideas like this, not the body and such; Who knows someone so detatched could strap a belt to himself, just to make a statement. Barry is a living proof to how easy it is to twist spiritual knowledge. btw,he is so detached in general that he couldn't stay away from the forum for more than two weeks. i don't read many posts, maybe i've missed some of his gems so far. Thank God France has him at present, or at least this forum is being monitored... lol R.G. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel babajii_99@ wrote: I'm not sure why it is important to some to make TMO into a cult; And then try to inform others to save them from making their own decisions, concerning their relationship with Maharishi, and the movement. Everyone has his or her life to life, and everyone has the right to make their own decisions, especially those of a spiritual nature. To mock someone's sincere belief, is a kind of fascism, and reminds me of the mocking of the Jews by the Nazis; what's the difference? The Nazis considered the Jews a cult... You speak so much of the 'Bliss-Nazis'; but you follow their example... For the record, this is EXACTLY the mindset I've been talking about this morning. RG is the kind of person who is so attached to his description of self that he believes that what he believes and who he is are the same thing. And that anyone who mocks his beliefs mocks him. IT'S NOT TRUE. We are NOT what we believe. We are NOT the groups we identify with. Robert is NOT a TMer. He is NOT a Jew. When it all comes down, he does NOT even have a self. But because he hasn't realized yet that he doesn't have a self, he clings to that illusion of self and thinks that it exists, and furthermore that it belongs to some group of equally non- existent selves he calls Jews or TMers. Then he gets fearful and threatened when someone disses his group. The Iranians diss the Jews, and he get so terrified that he advocates nuking them here on FFL. A few folks describe the TMO differently than he'd like the group described, and he gets so fearful and threatened that he compares those folks to Nazis. THIS is what happens when you don't know who you really are, and start to identify with that silly, non-existent thing you call self. Even sadder is what happens when one of those non- existent selves is so weak and so lost that it feels whole only when it considers itself part of a group. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Unholy Alliance: Radical Islam and the American Left / David Horowitz
I got the book Unholy Alliance: Radical Islam and the American Left today, which i wonder if anyone read and/or have opinion about. The irony is that i just found out that Chavez very much liked Noam Chomsky's book, Hegemony or Survival and recommended it. well, congrats to the left, you seem to prove Horowitz's points. Chomsky's book: Plug by Chavez proves lucrative Venezuela's president reference to Chomsky's book on US during UN speech results in huge boost to book's sales Merav Yudilovitch and AFP Published: 09.25.06, 18:16 Author Noam Chomsky's Hegemony or Survival: America's Quest for Global Dominance remained perched atop of Amazon.com's bestseller list, after its plug last week by Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez during a fiery UN speech condemning US President George W. Bush. The popular online company showed the 2003 book still as its biggest seller, after having claimed the top spot Friday following Chavez's recommendation of it as an excellent book to help us understand what has been happening in the world throughout the 20th century ... and the greatest threat looming over our planet. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Unholy Alliance: Radical Islam and the American Left / David Horowitz
to close the circle, adding that Chavez friendship with part of Radical Islam is not a bit surprising and imo suggests that it's not about religion but more about growing 'pure' hatred and ignorance as to the ways to soften it. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, larry.potter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I got the book Unholy Alliance: Radical Islam and the American Left today, which i wonder if anyone read and/or have opinion about. The irony is that i just found out that Chavez very much liked Noam Chomsky's book, Hegemony or Survival and recommended it. well, congrats to the left, you seem to prove Horowitz's points. Chomsky's book: Plug by Chavez proves lucrative Venezuela's president reference to Chomsky's book on US during UN speech results in huge boost to book's sales Merav Yudilovitch and AFP Published: 09.25.06, 18:16 Author Noam Chomsky's Hegemony or Survival: America's Quest for Global Dominance remained perched atop of Amazon.com's bestseller list, after its plug last week by Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez during a fiery UN speech condemning US President George W. Bush. The popular online company showed the 2003 book still as its biggest seller, after having claimed the top spot Friday following Chavez's recommendation of it as an excellent book to help us understand what has been happening in the world throughout the 20th century ... and the greatest threat looming over our planet. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Financial Capital...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just got an e-mail reading(?) that the new organisation for TM-movement in Finland shall be called Financial Capital of Finland Oy. WTF...? is that so?!, sounds very typical to TMO mind settings, as for spirituality... lol To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Guys: who would you rather be molested by?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, larry.potter larry.potter@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, larry.potter larry.potter@ wrote: common guys, we know that it is a sex fantasy to get a BJ from good looking sexy teacher. But just stop and think above your pants for a minute to really realize what's involved here. it's not a pretty sight. to those who support her, I'm not sure what are you suggesting exactly, do you want Debra to just walk away because you think she just made a guy happy.? I really don't see what she did that was so wrong. She had sex with a CHILD, sexual misconduct or sex abuse if you will. are we naive. Do you think that in the future ,part of any teacher's job description is to give good BJs? No. (because if you do I'm going back to school as a student, but wait I'm an adult, I wouldn't get messed up). BTW, what would you think and feel, if it was a male teacher with a 14 y.o girl, you would likely want the him (the male teacher) to spend half of his life behind bars, Absolutely. But there SHOULD be a double standard because men and women are different. For the same reason women shouldn't see combat. everyone should be equal before the law. Why her gender should play a role here? Because women and men are not the same and the law should reflect that. Family law is a perfect example: it is quite biased -- as it should be -- to the mother when it comes to child custody. should it be biased in the current twisted manner? where custody automatic goes to the mother while the father is the ATM machine. many men are more than capable and willing to take care of their children. snip To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: How many of you agree with Chavez
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, elastomeric_brotherhood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think it is hyperbole to call Bush the Devil. But, I do think Bush and his supporters are spiritually much less evolved. now this statement makes you so evolved, wow. i admire your evolvo. weee. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: So tonight on the news I saw Venezuelan President Chavez call Bush the Devil, claim he smelled sulphur from Bush being there from the previous day and then Chavez -- quite seriously -- crossed himself. I've heard pretty much the same sentiments echoed on this forum by many. How many of you agree with Chavez? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Guys: who would you rather be molested by?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Think back to when you were a 14-year-old. Suppose your teacher put the moves on you. Who would you rather it be: Andrea Dworkin? You made a very clear point here. lol however even a golden gun kills, she could have done some serious emotional damage to a young aged boy. ...or... Debra Lafave? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Guys: who would you rather be molested by?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, larry.potter larry.potter@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: Think back to when you were a 14-year-old. Suppose your teacher put the moves on you. Who would you rather it be: Andrea Dworkin? You made a very clear point here. lol however even a golden gun kills, she could have done some serious emotional damage to a young aged boy. A woman (or man) who chases 14-year-olds, especailly when they are professionally beautiful (as was the case with the former model) obviously has severe emotional problems. Getting involved romatically with a 14-year-old is never a good idea (even for other 14-year-olds!), but is a sign of serious emotional/mental issues for a 26-year-o;ld and to even hint that those issues won't reflect back on the 14- year-old is silly, at best. are you suggesting that I've said otherwise..? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Guys: who would you rather be molested by?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, larry.potter larry.potter@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: Think back to when you were a 14-year-old. Suppose your teacher put the moves on you. Who would you rather it be: Andrea Dworkin? You made a very clear point here. lol however even a golden gun kills, she could have done some serious emotional damage to a young aged boy. How? the boy is too young, not emotionally developed enough, hence can be emotionally manipulated ,developed dependency, deteriorate into depression, drugs and so on. of course it also depends on the specific personality and his emotional stance. to some boys it could boost their false ego. (years ago kids got married when they were 13 y.o in some cultures, but that's different situation from being molested ) I would have done my paper route for free for a year if I would have had a tryste with her. ...or... Debra Lafave? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Guys: who would you rather be molested by?
common guys, we know that it is a sex fantasy to get a BJ from good looking sexy teacher. But just stop and think above your pants for a minute to really realize what's involved here. it's not a pretty sight. to those who support her, I'm not sure what are you suggesting exactly, do you want Debra to just walk away because you think she just made a guy happy.? are we naive. Do you think that in the future ,part of any teacher's job description is to give good BJs? (because if you do I'm going back to school as a student, but wait I'm an adult, I wouldn't get messed up). BTW, what would you think and feel, if it was a male teacher with a 14 y.o girl, you would likely want the him (the male teacher) to spend half of his life behind bars, not to mention if it was your girl, you likely feel real hostility towards him, whishing you could meet him in dark alley. Debra Lafave should get a sever punishment, at least as if it was a male teacher using a girl student. We should stand firm behind our resolution that school is a place to bestow values and knowledge and not deteriorate it into a whorehouse. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, larry.potter larry.potter@ wrote: Some coomets, addressed to all posters on this thread, not solely Larry. How? the boy is too young, not emotionally developed enough, You know this boy personally? From the interview with DLF, from recorded phone convos, he has deep voice, sounds like he is 6'6, and been around the block. Some 9th grade guys are at or near adult height, features -- and quite sexually active. hence can be emotionally manipulated ,developed dependency, deteriorate into depression, drugs and so on. Some 14 year olds could. Hardly a universal. of course it also depends on the specific personality and his emotional stance. to some boys it could boost their false ego. (years ago kids got married when they were 13 y.o in some cultures, but that's different situation from being molested ) Where does this molestation stuff come from. They had been on student field trips. There was flirting going on for some time. At a point, he asked her for a blow-job. She complied. Later, he asked to have sex. She complied. While not great judegment on her part, its hardly molestation. I would have done my paper route for free for a year if I would have had a tryste with her. ...or... Debra Lafave? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Guys: who would you rather be molested by?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, larry.potter larry.potter@ wrote: to those who support her, Its odd if you are including me in that. no, that was more stating my opinion on the topic. If so, quite a internal distortion you made of what i wrote. I was clarifying some gross distortions in yours and others posts. That hardly translates into letting DLF go free. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Guys: who would you rather be molested by?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, larry.potter larry.potter@ wrote: common guys, we know that it is a sex fantasy to get a BJ from good looking sexy teacher. But just stop and think above your pants for a minute to really realize what's involved here. it's not a pretty sight. to those who support her, I'm not sure what are you suggesting exactly, do you want Debra to just walk away because you think she just made a guy happy.? I really don't see what she did that was so wrong. She had sex with a CHILD, sexual misconduct or sex abuse if you will. are we naive. Do you think that in the future ,part of any teacher's job description is to give good BJs? No. (because if you do I'm going back to school as a student, but wait I'm an adult, I wouldn't get messed up). BTW, what would you think and feel, if it was a male teacher with a 14 y.o girl, you would likely want the him (the male teacher) to spend half of his life behind bars, Absolutely. But there SHOULD be a double standard because men and women are different. For the same reason women shouldn't see combat. everyone should be equal before the law. Why her gender should play a role here? not to mention if it was your girl, you likely feel real hostility towards him, whishing you could meet him in dark alley. Debra Lafave should get a sever punishment, at least as if it was a male teacher using a girl student. We should stand firm behind our resolution that school is a place to bestow values and knowledge and not deteriorate it into a whorehouse. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, larry.potter larry.potter@ wrote: Some coomets, addressed to all posters on this thread, not solely Larry. How? the boy is too young, not emotionally developed enough, You know this boy personally? From the interview with DLF, from recorded phone convos, he has deep voice, sounds like he is 6'6, and been around the block. Some 9th grade guys are at or near adult height, features -- and quite sexually active. hence can be emotionally manipulated ,developed dependency, deteriorate into depression, drugs and so on. Some 14 year olds could. Hardly a universal. of course it also depends on the specific personality and his emotional stance. to some boys it could boost their false ego. (years ago kids got married when they were 13 y.o in some cultures, but that's different situation from being molested ) Where does this molestation stuff come from. They had been on student field trips. There was flirting going on for some time. At a point, he asked her for a blow-job. She complied. Later, he asked to have sex. She complied. While not great judegment on her part, its hardly molestation. I would have done my paper route for free for a year if I would have had a tryste with her. ...or... Debra Lafave? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: this....just in from a THMD gal
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It does call MMY's bluff on the whole thing. Let's see what hitting his numbers actually can do. good point, however even if we can get these numbers, it will be a problem to measure 'success'. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer groups@ wrote: Today it was announced on the Invincible America Course that Dr. Howard Settle has agreed to cover the scholarships of those who need it for the Invincibility Course. This day will always be celebrated as a special turning point in history, Maharishi said. (By the way, Mother Divine is not being included in these scholarships. We are already being taken care of by our dear donors.) To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: this....just in from a THMD gal
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, larry.potter larry.potter@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: It does call MMY's bluff on the whole thing. Let's see what hitting his numbers actually can do. good point, however even if we can get these numbers, it will be a problem to measure 'success'. Just as a question, do you really think that even in the TM movement they'll be able to find 2000 people who have so little going for them in their lives that they'll be able to put those lives on hold for a year for a measly 500 bucks a month? no, I don't; but the I can't make that assumption, some TMers are very successful in life and some are very poor, not much in the middle... I'm not convinced they'll hit the numbers. But if they do, I'm concerned about the long- term effects on the 2000 losers who do take them up on this offer. What are they going to do upon re-entering reality after a year of essentially being institutionalized? maybe so, remember we are talking about adult people here, most of them probably smart above the average. The whole thing looks to me like another TMO PR, been there done that... I'm thinking Debbie Henning X 2000. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: What I see is, the globe floating in empty space, in bliss.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 9/18/06 10:58 AM, curtisdeltablues at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: An odd comment to make by you, since what Maharishi is saying sounds very much like what the astronauts who first walked on the moon observed and said about our planet. Were they depersonalized and grandiose too? I think the difference is that the astronauts were actually in space. For them the perception would be normal. However MMY is probably just being poetic and using flowery language for his feelings, so I was perhaps being a bit of a dick with my comment. My feeling when I heard the quote was that he had recently seen a photo of the Earth from space, but was trying to impress people by giving the impression that from his cosmic perspective, he was actually seeing it. what i see is that people are reading too much into every MMY's saying. I doubt if MMY intended to teach that other people's 'reality' is more real than their own, but many people behave in that manner. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] That Religion of 'Peace' again
Somalia: Italian nun's murder may be linked to Pope, official says Published: 09.17.06, 15:06 The killing of an Italian Catholic nun in Mogadishu on Sunday may well be linked to anger among Muslims about Pope Benedict's recent remarks on Islam, a senior source among Somalia's Islamists said. There is a very high possibility the people who killed her were angered by the Catholic Pope's recent comments against Islam, the source said. (Reuters) To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Obsession: What The War on Terror Is Really About ( must see )
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, larry.potter larry.potter@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: larry.potter wrote: ? There will always be people that will be willing to close their eyes, dismiss it a propaganda or as minor issue until it's too late. The video also clearly shows scary similarities between what is happening now with Islam and what happened in the past with regard to Nazi Germany. The fact is that radical Islam brain washing machine and media is working over time. Unfortunately Europe is also in a state of denial at this point of time. Only people who fear death are scared. That's what enlightenment gives us: freedom from fear. There are smarter ways of dealing with the problem. Thank you for saying this. It's about time someone did. These two guys -- Larry and Robert -- are AFRAID, that's all. only a fool will not be afraid of Iran have nuke power. They're so afraid that they're willing to justify a preemptive nuclear strike I never said that I'm willing to justify preemptive nuclear strike. Don't put words i didn't say in my mouth. is it the hour or just your memory ? :0 on an entire nation of people just *because* they're afraid. And that makes them EXACTLY like the people they're afraid of. i'm not sure if you intended to ask me or Barry.. If Hitler's Nazi's had developed an Atom bomb, do you think they would have used it to win the war? for sure, i don't think anyone doubts that the Nazi would have used it. If Iran attain a nuclear bomb, and the means to deliver it, Do you think they would use it, to win this war they've declared on us? if it walks like a duck, kwaks like a duck it is a duck. Iran has the same insane ideology as the radical Islam and the later has proven that they have no value for life, not even their own. So even the claim that Iran will not use it since Iran knows that if they do other countries will destroy Iran will not hold water. only a meaningful change in the world consciousness, and i'm not talking a minor change but rather a full global different level will be able to make a differences. I think that watching the video: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6162397493278181614hl=en helped with seeing all of it together and realizing that they are not disconnected events but there is an evolving escalating pattern to all of this madness. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Obsession: What The War on Terror Is Really About ( must see )
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, larry.potter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip If Iran attain a nuclear bomb, and the means to deliver it, Do you think they would use it, to win this war they've declared on us? if it walks like a duck, kwaks like a duck it is a duck. Iran has the same insane ideology as the radical Islam and the later has proven that they have no value for life, not even their own. So even the claim that Iran will not use it since Iran knows that if they do other countries will destroy Iran will not hold water. I'm not entirely sure the leaders of Iran, those who would be in a position to use nuclear weapons if they had them, actually believe in the ideology they spout. I'm not entirely sure myself, but why shouldn't we believe Iran leaders when they spout their Nazi ideology? I'm even less sure our own U.S. leaders really think Iran's leaders hold those beliefs. We were led into one disastrous war under false pretenses, and now those responsible seem to want to do it again, beyond all reason. only a meaningful change in the world consciousness, and i'm not talking a minor change but rather a full global different level will be able to make a differences. Frankly, I think replacing our leaders would bring us back from the brink and give everyone some breathing room to sort out the saber-rattling and figure out what is really in our, and their, best interests. i hope so, but just note that the radical Islam ideology started way before our current government took place. Whether we can do that in time to forestell another, even greater disaster is a different question. I think that watching the video: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6162397493278181614hl=en As the film says right in the beginning, It's important to remember, most Muslims are peaceful and do not support terror. right, i stated that here myself several times and it is true. what is deafening is the non violent Muslim silence about radical Islam and it's terrorism. Why are they letting them hijack Islam from them... (I haven't watched the rest of it yet, but I will.) helped with seeing all of it together and realizing that they are not disconnected events but there is an evolving escalating pattern to all of this madness. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Road Trip
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunshine@ wrote: snip And what is the point of the constant attacks (undoubtedly they will say they're not attacks, merely observations, and if they're not true it shouldn't matter, but that is, of course, bull-poop) Sal, obviously you don't realize that you're describing *Barry* here. It isn't Barry's critics who say such things, it's him. This has been his M.O. for as long as I've known him, on alt.m.t and FFL both, for 11 years now. what M.O. stands for, i'm not familiar with it. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Invincible America?
I'm not sure where you got the idea that Israel sees itself as invincible ? Being forced to defend yourself is far from a feeling of invincibility. invincible means being able to neutralize the enemy before a war take place. Once you are in a war situation both sides have casualties, both sides lose, hence it's far from being invincible to begin with. I also doubt if Americans imagine that they are invincible after 9/11 and with today's easy access to WMD. America, and rightly so, sees itself as a superpower but that's different thing from being invincible. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: rant mode ON The *last* thing this planet needs is an invincible America. IMO the only good thing to come out of the Iraq invasion and the recent invasion of Lebanon is that they have demonstrated that both the United States and Israel, *far* from being invincible with their stockpiles of the latest and greatest weapons on the planet, are basically helpless when dealing with a people who believe that they are fighting for the preservation of their own country and their way of life. All that both countries have done is demonstrated their own *weakness*. It's a lesson the French finally learned in Algeria (after believing in their own invincibility for decades) and tried to convey to the US when it invaded Iraq. But it's a lesson that neither the United States or Israel seem to get. If the TM organization is going to claim that they're butt-bouncing for world peace, for chrissakes don't call the course Invincible America. What is probably fueling this stock market rise is surges in the Defense industry. To quote from a post I made in 2002: Before scrolling down, think for a moment and come up with a figure you think represents the U.S. percentage of worldwide arms sales. From the U.S. Department of State website (http://www.state.gov/t/vc/rls/rpt/wmeat/99_00/), Arms Sales by Country, 1999 (latest available [at that time, and possibly now]). The figure to the left is the ranking, figure to the right is the number of millions of dollars of sales, countries that sell 0 (less than a million) are left off. Answer to the math question -- total up the arms sales by ALL other countries on this list during 1999 and you get a combined total of 18,680 million, or only 56.6% of the arms sold by the U.S. during that same period. The United States sells 43.4% of the weapons sold on the planet. 1 United States 33,000 2 United Kingdom 5,200 3 Russia 3,100 4 France 2,900 5 Germany 1,900 6 Sweden 675 7 Israel 600 8 Australia 550 9 Canada 550 10 Ukraine 550 11 Italy 380 12 China - Mainland 320 13 Belarus 310 14 Bulgaria 200 15 Korea, North 140 16 Netherlands 140 17 Indonesia 100 18 Greece 90 19 Czech Republic 80 20 Spain 70 21 Turkey 70 22 Finland 50 23 Switzerland 50 24 Romania 40 25 Austria 30 26 Belgium 30 27 Georgia 30 28 Libya 30 29 Mexico 30 30 Poland 30 31 South Africa 30 32 Brazil 20 33 China - Taiwan 20 34 Eritrea 20 35 Japan 20 36 Korea, South 20 37 Moldova 20 38 Norway 20 39 Serbia and Montenegro 20 40 Singapore 20 41 Chile 10 42 Croatia 10 43 Denmark 10 44 Hungary 10 45 India 10 46 Iran 10 47 Kazakhstan 10 48 Pakistan 10 49 Slovakia 10 50 Uzbekistan 10 51 Philippines 5 Dylan sung his song Masters Of War about AMERICA. Nothing has changed since he sung it except that it has become more convinced of its invincible mastery. rant mode OFF To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: You will not *believe* this!
hahaha , nice :) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Try this: when you click on the link below, look down at the bottom of your screen while the page comes up, instead of looking at the page. When the page has loaded--still looking down at the bottom of the screen--scroll down just a little bit until the top few lines are off the screen. Without looking directly at what's on the screen, try to scroll so the first bold paragraph is at the top of the screen. Read that paragraph. Below it is a link to a Real Player audio clip, and below that is a transcript of the conversation that's on the clip. Listen to the audio while following the transcript. Who exactly is N'kisi? I'm suggesting the scrolling maneuver because N'kisi is identified in the first few lines at the top of the screen, and I thought it might be fun to listen to the clip without knowing who N'kisi is. When you've heard the clip, scroll up to the top to find out. Or don't bother with the scrolling; it's still amazing when you know beforehand who is talking. But please don't give the game away here until other folks have had a chance to try it! http://www.sheldrake.org/nkisi/nkisi1_text.html To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: The metamorphosis of Robert Gimbel
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: FFL's poet-laureate Once a beacon Of liberalism And peace And non-violence Shem can you look in Robert's eyes and tell him that peace, liberalism, non-violence and so on is also Iran's and the Arabs countries goals? that they also want liberalism, non-violence etc? just looked at what Arab and Muslim around the world following the publication of cartoons have caused. Can you absolutely be sure that Iran that declared destruction of Israel and the West are just politics? Shem, Are you sure that you see reality as it is better than Robert? Now advocates The immediate and unambiguous Nuclear-bombing of Persia And The immediate incineration of Millions of Persians To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: The metamorphosis of Robert Gimbel
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, larry.potter larry.potter@ wrote: Shemp, Are you sure that you see reality as it is better than Robert? I certainly hope so. Robert is advocating nuclear war. oh, i see, we, in the West, just don't *understand* Islam or Iran well, we need to analyze more their mad destructive behavior. We need to give them nuke power and just hope that they will change. so, when Islamofascists seek the total destruction of Western civilization, it is just liberalism in disguise. i think i see reality better now, Barry, ty. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: The metamorphosis of Robert Gimbel
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, larry.potter larry.potter@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: FFL's poet-laureate Once a beacon Of liberalism And peace And non-violence Shem can you look in Robert's eyes and tell him that peace, liberalism, non-violence and so on is also Iran's and the Arabs countries goals? that they also want liberalism, non-violence etc? just looked at what Arab and Muslim around the world following the publication of cartoons have caused. Can you absolutely be sure that Iran that declared destruction of Israel and the West are just politics? Shem, Are you sure that you see reality as it is better than Robert? Oh, Larry, don't misunderstand me. The bottom line is: Robert is 100% right. I just find it ironic that this former beacon of liberalism and non- violence has done a 180 degree turn. sorry, i missed that point. and yes, events tend to shift our view from time to time. been there done that, (am there :) ) Now advocates The immediate and unambiguous Nuclear-bombing of Persia And The immediate incineration of Millions of Persians To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Obsession: What The War on Terror Is Really About ( must see )
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6162397493278181614hl=en A wake up call. We can connect the dots and see what terror is about, what extreme Islam is about, or we can keep on closing our eyes and hope that it will disappear by itself and stay delusional. I'm interested to hear your feedback on it. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Obsession: What The War on Terror Is Really About ( must see )
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A propaganda piece. HonestReporting.com seems to think it too is fair There will always be people that will be willing to close their eyes, dismiss it a propaganda or as minor issue until it's too late. The video also clearly shows scary similarities between what is happening now with Islam and what happened in the past with regard to Nazi Germany. The fact is that radical Islam brain washing machine and media is working over time. Unfortunately Europe is also in a state of denial at this point of time. and balanced. Sure, extremist Islam is a nutty faction but so is extremist Judaism and extremist Christianity. Maybe what we can derive from this piece is to grow up and throw religion into the garbage where it belongs. no, religion is just an excuse, it's not the real issue, the fact is that there are Muslims who are truly peaceful. However twisting it by radical Muslims and brain wash their kids is the real issue, hijacking the kid's mind, hijacking the true essence of their religion. Peace will prevail eventually, the question is how much suffering humanity will go thru before it happens. larry.potter wrote: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6162397493278181614hl=en A wake up call. We can connect the dots and see what terror is about, what extreme Islam is about, or we can keep on closing our eyes and hope that it will disappear by itself and stay delusional. I'm interested to hear your feedback on it. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Obsession: What The War on Terror Is Really About ( must see )
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: larry.potter wrote: ? There will always be people that will be willing to close their eyes, dismiss it a propaganda or as minor issue until it's too late. The video also clearly shows scary similarities between what is happening now with Islam and what happened in the past with regard to Nazi Germany. The fact is that radical Islam brain washing machine and media is working over time. Unfortunately Europe is also in a state of denial at this point of time. Only people who fear death are scared. That's what enlightenment gives us: freedom from fear. There are smarter ways of dealing with the problem. Thank you for saying this. It's about time someone did. These two guys -- Larry and Robert -- are AFRAID, that's all. only a fool will not be afraid of Iran have nuke power. They're so afraid that they're willing to justify a preemptive nuclear strike I never said that I'm willing to justify preemptive nuclear strike. Don't put words i didn't say in my mouth. is it the hour or just your memory ? :0 on an entire nation of people just *because* they're afraid. And that makes them EXACTLY like the people they're afraid of. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Tantric Inversions
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've been thinking lately about the time we all waste here, especially me. And about how I can turn that around. So what I came up with is a technique I haven't been practicing enough lately call Tantric inversions. That's where you take a stimulus that normally draws you back into an old, tired samskaric pattern, and instead of going there, you use the stimulus as a *reminder* to do the opposite of that samskaric pattern. In my case, one of my obvious samskaric patterns is that I allow Judy to suck me into her endless arguments and wind up writing too much here, instead of writing the film reviews and book chapters I'm supposed to be working on this summer. So my new plan is to let Judy's seemingly endless reservoir of bile *inspire* me instead of getting under my skin. Every time she slams me here on FFL, what I'm going to try to do is *instead* of doing what she wants me to do (that is, waste my time and my life the way she's wasted hers), but before you do this TI, you can't resist but to bash her one last time, is that it?! lol kind of, tomorrow I'll go on diet but now i have to have that steak.. anyway good luck :) I'll just sit down and write another film review, or a section of the book. Somehow I think I have a long summer's writing ahead of me. :-) It'll be an interesting experiment. Judy will keep slamming me, because that is just what she does, and if I keep to this plan, the more she slams me, the more salable writing I'll produce. And that will get under her skin more than anything I could possibly say in response. Life is good. As Bhairitu can tell you, one of the reasons we like the Tantric path is that it's fun. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Fajr-5 missiles fired at Israel
paraphrasing a quote There will be peace when the Palestinians would love their children more than their love to murder Jews how sad. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, larry.potter larry.potter@ wrote: The amount of weapons that Hizbalah has and how powerful these weapons are, is amazing. Where and how they got it, more important why and what for ? Was it all planned? I wonder.. Escalation: Police report that Hizbullah fired five Fajr-5 missiles, 'never before seen in Israel,' at Afula Friday afternoon. Sources say missiles may have been aimed at Hadera, Netanya. Massive rocket barrages fired by Hizbullah at Israel's north Friday afternoon Sharon Roffe-Ofir Hizbullah steps up attacks: Hizbullah steps up attacks: For the first time since the fighting in the north began 17 days ago, Hizbullah launched five Pajr-5 missiles at Israel Friday afternoon. Police officials said that long-range missiles of this type can carry a larger amount of explosives than the rockets that had been fired at Israel so far. A short while later, the IDF reported it had destroyed the rocket launcher used for firing the missiles. http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3282785,00.html They are receiveing these weapons from Iran, Syria, and who knows where else. The purpose of all of this, is to destroy Israel, like the maniac in Iran has stated, clearly his intention to destroy Israel; Sounds a lot like Adolf Hitler's rheteric, leading up to the holocaust. The only way to handle this situation, is to wipe these maniacs out. Iran, is bent on the destruction of Israel, and the United States, and all it's interests around the world. imo, Iran care [EMAIL PROTECTED] about the Palestinians or Hizbalah, all in it's just a way to hurt the USA and to show the world that Iran is a bigger super power (or equel to) then US. in that manner Iran is using the region who is already a in pain. It is inevitable, that we and the Israeli's will have to take serious action to destroy this Facist regime in Iran, and any other Facist regime, bent on destroying us and out interests. So, no matter what type of new rocket they have; We've had that since the 50's. And could turn their country to dust, in one hot New York Second... To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Israel gives an inch?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Israel will not demand Hizbollah disarm Sat Jul 29, 2006 11:46 AM ET JERUSALEM (Reuters) - Israel will not demand the immediate disarming of Hizbollah as part of a deal to end the current fighting in Lebanon, a senior Israeli foreign ministry official said on Saturday. Israel's stance could make it easier to reach an agreement with major powers and the Lebanese government on the deployment of a peacekeeping force in south Lebanon. Read the rest at: http://tinyurl.com/gwac7 Israel effort alone, on the political arena, to disarm Hizbalah is not going to do it, a broader pressure is lacking at this phase. IMO, we are setting ourselves to more problems in the future as Iran will push the bottoms again and will escalate the situation when ever Iran has interest to do so. I hope to be wrong. Currently it looks like the France and Lebanon will be part of peacekeeping , hopefully they will do a better job than UN, that is if UN forces ever did something beside watching Hizbalah preparing for war. --- ynetnews: France, Lebanon to deploy to border with Israel Prime Minister Ehud Olmert meets with US Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice at his Jerusalem residence Saturday night; Rice reveals initial plans for international peacekeeping force: France, Lebanese army to take part, and will also guard Syria-Lebanon border. Leaders agree diplomatic agreement dependant on release of kidnapped soldiers Ronny Sofer France and the Lebanese army will take part in the multinational peacekeeping force expected to take position along the southern Lebanese border, it was revealed following a meeting between US Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice and Prime Minister Ehud Olmert in Jerusalem. http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3283247,00.html To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
