[FairfieldLife] Re: Chopra nothing without Maharishi

2013-09-12 Thread Jason
> > Jason wrote: > > > > (snip) > > > > There are clear, distinct, differences between > > 'materialism' 'naturalism' and 'reductionism'. > > > > Nagel probably uses these terms interchangably and with > > some ambiguity. > > --- "authfriend" wrote: > > Wrong again, Jason. > > > > 'Materialism' i

[FairfieldLife] Re: Chopra nothing without Maharishi

2013-09-12 Thread Jason
> > Jason wrote > > > > 'Quantum field', 'Scientific principles' and > > mathematical principles are in fact, abstract, > > intangible aspects of nature. > > > > You are correct in saying that there is a worthwhile > > difference, between 'materialism' and 'naturalism'. > > > > --- "compost1uk"

[FairfieldLife] Re: Chopra nothing without Maharishi

2013-09-11 Thread Jason
> > Jason wrote: > > > Xeno, it's not clear what Nagel exactly means by > > > "materialist". > > Judy wrote: > > Yes, it is. It's one who believes "that everything can > > be accounted for at the most basic level by the physical > > sciences, extended to include biology." > > > Jason wrote: >

[FairfieldLife] RE: Chopra nothing without Maharishi

2013-09-09 Thread iranitea

[FairfieldLife] Re: Chopra nothing without Maharishi

2013-09-08 Thread Jason
> > > > --- "salyavin808" wrote: > > > > > > --snip-- > > > > > > While I do not have time to enter the fray here at the moment, > > > I did notice this thread about 'Mind and Cosmos' which I have > > > *not* read but which seemingly brings up once again the 'hard > > > problem of consciousne

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Chopra nothing without Maharishi

2013-09-07 Thread Steve Sundur
The answer we gotten before from some here is, "random brain activity".   From: "waybac...@yahoo.com" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, September 7, 2013 7:46 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: Chopra nothing without Maharis

[FairfieldLife] RE: Chopra nothing without Maharishi

2013-09-07 Thread wayback71

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2013-08-20 Thread Emily Reyn
be careful not to be too sanctimonious.   > > > > From: Share Long sharelong60@... > To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2013 9:14 AM > Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Chopra nothin

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2013-08-20 Thread obbajeeba
ful not to be too sanctimonious. Â > > > > From: Share Long sharelong60@... > To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2013 9:14 AM > Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Chopra nothing witho

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Chopra nothing without Maharishi

2013-08-20 Thread Emily Reyn
ounselor. That seems adult to me. From: "doctordumb...@rocketmail.com" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, August 19, 2013 8:22 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Chopra nothing without Maharishi   Sometimes you must speak another person&

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Chopra nothing without Maharishi

2013-08-20 Thread Share Long
Well, surf's up! why stay in boat?! cowabunga! From: "doctordumb...@rocketmail.com" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2013 11:34 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Chopra nothing without Maharishi   (Wo)Man Over

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2013-08-20 Thread doctordumbass
August 20, 2013 11:19 AM > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Chopra nothing without Maharishi > > > >   > Fuck that! :-) > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote: > > > > Yep, I still think it's possible to set boundaries without using > > po

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Chopra nothing without Maharishi

2013-08-20 Thread Share Long
yes, yes dear Doc, whatever floats your boat! From: "doctordumb...@rocketmail.com" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2013 11:19 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Chopra nothing without Maharishi   Fuck that! :

[FairfieldLife] Re: Chopra nothing without Maharishi

2013-08-20 Thread doctordumbass
ublic and work on it in private > or with my counselor. That seems adult to me. > > > > > > From: "doctordumbass@..." > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Monday, August 19, 2013 8:22 AM > Subject: [Fairfiel

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Chopra nothing without Maharishi

2013-08-20 Thread Share Long
to me. From: "doctordumb...@rocketmail.com" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, August 19, 2013 8:22 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Chopra nothing without Maharishi   Sometimes you must speak another person's language to communicate with them. Mahar

[FairfieldLife] Re: Chopra nothing without Maharishi

2013-08-19 Thread RoryGoff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "RoryGoff" wrote: > Ah, right, thank you, Judy! To which I responded something like "I said *may* > as that was my experience. Yours may be something entirely different." And > again, to clarify, I reiterate that I was not thinking about you when I wrote

[FairfieldLife] Re: Chopra nothing without Maharishi

2013-08-19 Thread RoryGoff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "RoryGoff" wrote: > > > > No, it's not too late, Judy; thank you; I much appreciate it. Yes, part of > > me did get a kick out it all, and it was blissful -- and then my physiology > > got a KI

[FairfieldLife] Re: Chopra nothing without Maharishi

2013-08-19 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "RoryGoff" wrote: > > No, it's not too late, Judy; thank you; I much appreciate it. Yes, part of me > did get a kick out it all, and it was blissful -- and then my physiology got > a KICK out of it all on a whole new level! :-D > > You are quite right abo

[FairfieldLife] Re: Chopra nothing without Maharishi

2013-08-19 Thread obbajeeba
hows them > > > immediately that there is a boundary there. Not something one would expect > > > to have to do around adults, setting social boundaries, but some are > > > childish in their state of emotional development. Sorry if it looks ugly > > > fr

[FairfieldLife] Re: Chopra nothing without Maharishi

2013-08-19 Thread doctordumbass
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Seraphita" wrote: > > At rounding courses in the 1970s when we were shown videotapes of > Maharishi there were often long pauses after a question was asked - and > I mean really long pauses - before Maharishi came up with an answer. I > used to feel the ten

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Chopra nothing without Maharishi

2013-08-19 Thread Ravi Chivukula
lf serves equally well. It is not said > in > > > judgment, but rather in context. An attempt at behavioral > modification, as > > > would be used on a very stubborn and angry adult child. It shows them > > > immediately that there is a boundary there. Not something on

[FairfieldLife] Re: Chopra nothing without Maharishi

2013-08-19 Thread RoryGoff
; > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Judy and Xeno, I'm learning, especially here on FFL, that it's > > best NEVER to blast someone unkindly. Whether

[FairfieldLife] Re: Chopra nothing without Maharishi

2013-08-19 Thread doctordumbass
abusive person? If so, then all I can say is that I have seen no > > > empirical evidence of that here on FFL! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: authfriend > > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > &g

[FairfieldLife] Re: Chopra nothing without Maharishi

2013-08-19 Thread Seraphita
At rounding courses in the 1970s when we were shown videotapes of Maharishi there were often long pauses after a question was asked - and I mean really long pauses - before Maharishi came up with an answer. I used to feel the tension rising and sometimes said to myself: "Christ! He's not going to b

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Chopra nothing without Maharishi

2013-08-19 Thread Ravi Chivukula
are Long > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Judy and Xeno, I'm learning, especially here on FFL, that it's > best NEVER to blast someone unkindly. Whether it's *important to* reminds > me of something posted a few weeks ago: that evil takes over w

[FairfieldLife] Re: Chopra nothing without Maharishi

2013-08-19 Thread RoryGoff
go: that evil takes over when good > > > > people become prideful. Furthermore, I think it's possible to express > > > > one's opinion, set boundaries, etc. without being unkind. Because > > > > really, exactly what does unkindness accomplish? Does i

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Chopra nothing without Maharishi

2013-08-19 Thread Ravi Chivukula
Because really, > > > exactly what does unkindness accomplish? Does it produce kindness in the > > > abusive person? If so, then all I can say is that I have seen no > > > empirical evidence of that here on FFL! > > > > > > > > > > >

[FairfieldLife] Re: Chopra nothing without Maharishi

2013-08-19 Thread iranitea
here on FFL! > > > > > > > > ____________ > > From: authfriend > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > > Sent: Sunday, August 18, 2013 9:46 PM > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Chopra nothing without Maharishi > > > >

[FairfieldLife] Re: Chopra nothing without Maharishi

2013-08-19 Thread doctordumbass
Interesting the question M answers at the end - A TM teacher says that with TM there is no Guru (master) - Chela (disciple) relationship. M responds that it is more like a history professor, a purely instructional relationship with the student, "otherwise the whole complication would be unscie

[FairfieldLife] Re: Chopra nothing without Maharishi

2013-08-19 Thread RoryGoff
sical symptoms. Meanwhile as I'm sure you know, > Love's got you by the scruff of the neck and won't let go (-: > > > > From: RoryGoff > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Monday, August 19, 2013 10:12 AM > Subj

[FairfieldLife] Re: Chopra nothing without Maharishi

2013-08-19 Thread RoryGoff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... wrote: > > You are welcome! My body surprises me, unpleasantly sometimes. The best thing > to heal it is lie down, and let the attention go to the pain, without > thinking about it. Yes, that is my normal approach, too. This one was "Abb

[FairfieldLife] Re: Chopra nothing without Maharishi

2013-08-19 Thread RoryGoff
No, it's not too late, Judy; thank you; I much appreciate it. Yes, part of me did get a kick out it all, and it was blissful -- and then my physiology got a KICK out of it all on a whole new level! :-D You are quite right about my projecting an invulnerability; that is indeed a part of me, bu

[FairfieldLife] Re: Chopra nothing without Maharishi

2013-08-19 Thread doctordumbass
I'd like to, but what happens if the teacher catches me passing notes? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > DrD/Jim-- > > Rory has apparently chosen not to read my posts, so if I > may, I'd like to ask you to pass this on to him: > > He has twice seriously misrepresent

[FairfieldLife] Re: Chopra nothing without Maharishi

2013-08-19 Thread obbajeeba
; From: Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@... > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Sunday, August 18, 2013 6:36 PM > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Chopra nothing without Maharishi > > > > Â > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" authfriend@ wrote

[FairfieldLife] Re: Chopra nothing without Maharishi

2013-08-19 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "RoryGoff" wrote: > > Judy, I appreciate your overture. No, I was not reading any > posts for a few days there -- I was otherwise occupied, what > with the ER and so on, and trying to take it easy -- and > have not been following things religiously since, so I

[FairfieldLife] Re: Chopra nothing without Maharishi

2013-08-19 Thread obbajeeba
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "RoryGoff" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba no_reply@ wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Alex Stanley" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "RoryGoff" wrote: > > > > >

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Chopra nothing without Maharishi

2013-08-19 Thread Share Long
013 10:12 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Chopra nothing without Maharishi   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Alex Stanley" > wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@

[FairfieldLife] Re: Chopra nothing without Maharishi

2013-08-19 Thread Ann
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Alex Stanley" j_alexander_stanley@ wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "RoryGoff" wrote: > > > > > > > > > As some of the symptoms persisted over several days I finally

[FairfieldLife] Re: Chopra nothing without Maharishi

2013-08-19 Thread RoryGoff
s best > > > > NEVER to blast someone unkindly. Whether it's *important to* reminds me > > > > of something posted a few weeks ago: that evil takes over when good > > > > people become prideful. Furthermore, I think it's possible to express > > >

[FairfieldLife] Re: Chopra nothing without Maharishi

2013-08-19 Thread doctordumbass
tc. without being unkind. Because really, > > > exactly what does unkindness accomplish? Does it produce kindness in the > > > abusive person? If so, then all I can say is that I have seen no > > > empirical evidence of that here on FFL! > > > > > >

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Chopra nothing without Maharishi

2013-08-19 Thread Share Long
19, 2013 9:53 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Chopra nothing without Maharishi   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Alex Stanley" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "RoryGoff" wrote: > > > > > > As some of the s

[FairfieldLife] Re: Chopra nothing without Maharishi

2013-08-19 Thread RoryGoff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Alex Stanley" > wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "RoryGoff" wrote: > > > > > > > > > As some of the symptoms persisted over several days I finally went > > >

[FairfieldLife] Re: Chopra nothing without Maharishi

2013-08-19 Thread RoryGoff
Judy, I appreciate your overture. No, I was not reading any posts for a few days there -- I was otherwise occupied, what with the ER and so on, and trying to take it easy -- and have not been following things religiously since, so I must have missed your post. I did not mean to imply here that

[FairfieldLife] Re: Chopra nothing without Maharishi

2013-08-19 Thread obbajeeba
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Alex Stanley" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "RoryGoff" wrote: > > > > > > As some of the symptoms persisted over several days I finally went > > to the clinic and they sent me to the ER, but the EKG, blood tests > > and lung X-ra

[FairfieldLife] Re: Chopra nothing without Maharishi

2013-08-19 Thread emilymae.reyn
___ > From: authfriend > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Sunday, August 18, 2013 9:46 PM > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Chopra nothing without Maharishi > > > >   > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Xenophaneros Anartaxius" > wrote: &

[FairfieldLife] Re: Chopra nothing without Maharishi

2013-08-19 Thread authfriend
DrD/Jim-- Rory has apparently chosen not to read my posts, so if I may, I'd like to ask you to pass this on to him: He has twice seriously misrepresented what I said to him. I corrected him the first time, and he appeared to understand and thanked me for the "clarification." Then he misrepresent

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Chopra nothing without Maharishi

2013-08-19 Thread Share Long
: Chopra nothing without Maharishi   I could never claim to scope out someone that well, I have to hedge my bets when I try to do that. I was never good at it. About Buck. Yes, he is rather unusual. I tend to think of him as something out the mid-19th century, way before even my time. Share

[FairfieldLife] Re: Chopra nothing without Maharishi

2013-08-19 Thread Alex Stanley
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "RoryGoff" wrote: > > > As some of the symptoms persisted over several days I finally went > to the clinic and they sent me to the ER, but the EKG, blood tests > and lung X-rays (don't ask me why they felt those were necessary) > came back clean, much to my

[FairfieldLife] Re: Chopra nothing without Maharishi

2013-08-19 Thread obbajeeba
sible to express one's > > > opinion, set boundaries, etc. without being unkind. Because really, > > > exactly what does unkindness accomplish? Does it produce kindness in the > > > abusive person? If so, then all I can say is that I have seen no > > >

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Chopra nothing without Maharishi

2013-08-19 Thread Share Long
I'm pretty sure it's no longer contagious. Hope you and Rena and the whole banana gang are well and happy. Share From: RoryGoff To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, August 19, 2013 8:57 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Chopra nothing wit

[FairfieldLife] Re: Chopra nothing without Maharishi

2013-08-19 Thread RoryGoff
ries, etc. without being unkind. Because really, exactly > > what does unkindness accomplish? Does it produce kindness in the abusive > > person? If so, then all I can say is that I have seen no empirical evidence > > of that here on FFL! > > > > > > >

[FairfieldLife] Re: Chopra nothing without Maharishi

2013-08-19 Thread doctordumbass
ieldLife@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Sunday, August 18, 2013 9:46 PM > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Chopra nothing without Maharishi > > > >   > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Xenophaneros Anartaxius" > wrote: > > snip > > That may well be true. I don&

[FairfieldLife] Re: Chopra nothing without Maharishi

2013-08-19 Thread authfriend
al evidence of that here on FFL! > > > > > From: authfriend authfriend@... > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Sunday, August 18, 2013 9:46 PM > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Chopra nothing without Maharishi > > > > Â > ---

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Chopra nothing without Maharishi

2013-08-19 Thread Share Long
ep my psychological speculations to myself. At least, for now (-: From: Xenophaneros Anartaxius To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 18, 2013 6:36 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Chopra nothing without Maharishi   --- In Fairfiel

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Chopra nothing without Maharishi

2013-08-19 Thread Share Long
___ From: authfriend To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 18, 2013 9:46 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Chopra nothing without Maharishi   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Xenophaneros Anartaxius" wrote: snip That may well be true. I don't think one o

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Chopra nothing without Maharishi

2013-08-19 Thread Share Long
5 per week, not so much. From: Ann To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 18, 2013 9:01 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Chopra nothing without Maharishi   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Xenophaneros Anartaxius"

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Chopra nothing without Maharishi

2013-08-19 Thread Share Long
ot so much. From: Ann To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 18, 2013 9:01 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Chopra nothing without Maharishi   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Xenophaneros Anartaxius" wrote: > > --- In Fairfield

[FairfieldLife] Re: Chopra nothing without Maharishi

2013-08-18 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Xenophaneros Anartaxius" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > >> > >>> As I believe I said above, "You can imagine to a certain > >>> extent what it would be like for *you* to be a bat or to > >>> be your identical twin br

[FairfieldLife] Re: Chopra nothing without Maharishi

2013-08-18 Thread Ann
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Xenophaneros Anartaxius" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Xenophaneros Anartaxius" > > wrote: > >> > >> To make the question more precise, for any given person on FFL, in your > >

[FairfieldLife] Re: Chopra nothing without Maharishi

2013-08-18 Thread Xenophaneros Anartaxius
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann" wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Xenophaneros Anartaxius" > wrote: >> >> To make the question more precise, for any given person on FFL, in your own >> estimation, based on the replies you get and the posts directed to you >> either d

[FairfieldLife] Re: Chopra nothing without Maharishi

2013-08-18 Thread Ann
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Xenophaneros Anartaxius" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Xenophaneros Anartaxius" > > wrote: > >> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > >>> --- In Fai

[FairfieldLife] Re: Chopra nothing without Maharishi

2013-08-18 Thread Xenophaneros Anartaxius
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Xenophaneros Anartaxius" > wrote: >> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: >>> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Xenophaneros Anartaxius" >>> wrote: >> >>> As I believe

[FairfieldLife] Re: Chopra nothing without Maharishi

2013-08-18 Thread sparaig
___ > > From: Xenophaneros Anartaxius > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > > Sent: Sunday, August 18, 2013 10:36 AM > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Chopra nothing without Maharishi > > > > > > > >   > > --- In FairfieldLi

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Chopra nothing without Maharishi

2013-08-18 Thread Share Long
I bet she'd be too old for you (-: From: salyavin808 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, August 16, 2013 11:11 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Chopra nothing without Maharishi   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long

[FairfieldLife] Re: Chopra nothing without Maharishi

2013-08-18 Thread PaliGap
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Xenophaneros Anartaxius" > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > > > You should probably read the essay: > > > > > > http://organizations.utep.edu/Por

[FairfieldLife] Re: Chopra nothing without Maharishi

2013-08-18 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Xenophaneros Anartaxius" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Xenophaneros Anartaxius" > > wrote: > > > As I believe I said above, "You can imagine to a certain > > extent what it

[FairfieldLife] Re: Chopra nothing without Maharishi

2013-08-18 Thread doctordumbass
airfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Sunday, August 18, 2013 10:36 AM > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Chopra nothing without Maharishi > > > >   > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > You should probably read the essay: >

[FairfieldLife] Re: Chopra nothing without Maharishi

2013-08-18 Thread Xenophaneros Anartaxius
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Xenophaneros Anartaxius" > wrote: > As I believe I said above, "You can imagine to a certain > extent what it would be like for *you* to be a bat or to > be your identical twin brother..." > > No

[FairfieldLife] Re: Chopra nothing without Maharishi

2013-08-18 Thread Xenophaneros Anartaxius
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote: > > Share writes: And there is enlightenment which is thought to be the ultimate in questions and answers? > > Plus, what about science? There is science which only loves operationally defined questions and answers? I would say enlightenment

[FairfieldLife] Re: Chopra nothing without Maharishi

2013-08-18 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Xenophaneros Anartaxius" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > You should probably read the essay: > > > > http://organizations.utep.edu/Portals/1475/nagel_bat.pdf > > > > Knowing what it is like to be your identical

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Chopra nothing without Maharishi

2013-08-18 Thread Share Long
answers? Plus, what about science? There is science which only loves operationally defined questions and answers? From: Xenophaneros Anartaxius To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 18, 2013 10:36 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Chopra nothing

[FairfieldLife] Re: Chopra nothing without Maharishi

2013-08-18 Thread Xenophaneros Anartaxius
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > You should probably read the essay: > > http://organizations.utep.edu/Portals/1475/nagel_bat.pdf > > Knowing what it is like to be your identical twin brother > is no more possible than knowing what it is like to be a > bat. You can i

[FairfieldLife] Re: Chopra nothing without Maharishi

2013-08-17 Thread authfriend
You should probably read the essay: http://organizations.utep.edu/Portals/1475/nagel_bat.pdf Knowing what it is like to be your identical twin brother is no more possible than knowing what it is like to be a bat. You can imagine to a certain extent what it would be like for *you* to be a bat or t

[FairfieldLife] Re: Chopra nothing without Maharishi

2013-08-17 Thread Xenophaneros Anartaxius
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > (snip) > > Well, sorta. The focus isn't so much on what consciousness > > is in an experiential sense, but rather on how it got there. > > (Nagel covered the experiential > >

[FairfieldLife] Re: Chopra nothing without Maharishi

2013-08-17 Thread Xenophaneros Anartaxius
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Xenophaneros Anartaxius" > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808" > > > wrote: > > > > --snip-- > >

[FairfieldLife] Re: Chopra nothing without Maharishi

2013-08-17 Thread Seraphita
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808" wrote: >> > I don't like the insto-get-out clause that magic gives you. Sorry. It's a pet peeve. > > It's a pet peeve of mine also. The only fantasy that appeals is the dark stuff - like Lovecraft's nightmares. There are no get-out-of-jail-free

[FairfieldLife] Re: Chopra nothing without Maharishi

2013-08-17 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: (snip) > Well, sorta. The focus isn't so much on what consciousness > is in an experiential sense, but rather on how it got there. > (Nagel covered the experiential Ooops, never finished the sentence. I meant to refer to his seminal essay

[FairfieldLife] Re: Chopra nothing without Maharishi

2013-08-17 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Xenophaneros Anartaxius" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808" > > wrote: > > --snip-- > > While I do not have time to enter the fray here at the moment, > I did noti

[FairfieldLife] Re: Chopra nothing without Maharishi

2013-08-17 Thread Xenophaneros Anartaxius
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808" wrote: --snip-- While I do not have time to enter the fray here at the moment, I did notice this thread about 'Mind and Cosmos' which I have *not* read but which seemingly brings up

[FairfieldLife] Re: Chopra nothing without Maharishi

2013-08-16 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808" > > wrote: > > > (snip) > > > > > I'm much more interested in whether the materialists are > > > > > content tha

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Chopra nothing without Maharishi

2013-08-16 Thread Share Long
.com Sent: Friday, August 16, 2013 6:13 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Chopra nothing without Maharishi   A lot of people from the Judeo-christian-Islamic background are like that. They simply cannot imagine going anywhere else in the universe, because their views are mostly anthropomorphi

[FairfieldLife] Re: Chopra nothing without Maharishi

2013-08-16 Thread salyavin808
James Tiptree Jr. and Pat Murphy? That's a good idea, wonder if I'd be able to tell by reading them? > PS I like some SF and have a good friend who REALLY likes it. Wow, introduce me! > From: salyavin808 > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.c

[FairfieldLife] Re: Chopra nothing without Maharishi

2013-08-16 Thread salyavin808
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808" > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In Fai

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Chopra nothing without Maharishi

2013-08-16 Thread Share Long
6:13 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Chopra nothing without Maharishi   snip Frankenstein is a great book by any standard but it's the basis of most SF because it's about man's scientific creations running out of control. This fear that we are unleashing something we ca

[FairfieldLife] Re: Chopra nothing without Maharishi

2013-08-16 Thread salyavin808
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808" wrote: > (snip) > > Oh yes, when I meet a woman into sci-fi I always say Wow! > > Most just hate it no matter how much I try and extol > > it's virtues. > > FWIW, I love SF. Especi

[FairfieldLife] Re: Chopra nothing without Maharishi

2013-08-16 Thread salyavin808
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808" wrote: > > > > > > I hope that's not an argument from authority, probably > > > the least convincing way of winning a

[FairfieldLife] Re: Chopra nothing without Maharishi

2013-08-16 Thread Xenophaneros Anartaxius
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808" wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808" wrote: >> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808"

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Chopra nothing without Maharishi

2013-08-16 Thread Share Long
Obbajee, I am determined to stay under 200! (-: From: obbajeeba To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, August 16, 2013 9:10 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Chopra nothing without Maharishi   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyav

[FairfieldLife] Re: Chopra nothing without Maharishi

2013-08-16 Thread obbajeeba
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808" wrote: > > > > > > It's interesting why there are so few female philosophers, > > > same reason there a

[FairfieldLife] Re: Chopra nothing without Maharishi

2013-08-16 Thread Ann
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808" wrote: > > > > I hope that's not an argument from authority, probably > > the least convincing way of winning an argument. All > > of the ID crowd were "highly respected" PHDs, just n

[FairfieldLife] Re: Chopra nothing without Maharishi

2013-08-16 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808" wrote: (snip) > Oh yes, when I meet a woman into sci-fi I always say Wow! > Most just hate it no matter how much I try and extol > it's virtues. FWIW, I love SF. Especially "hard" SF. Like you, I'm bored to tears by fantasy. On the other hand, I

[FairfieldLife] Re: Chopra nothing without Maharishi

2013-08-16 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808" wrote: > > > > I hope that's not an argument from authority, probably > > the least convincing way of winning an argument. All > > of the ID crowd were "highly respected" PHDs, just n

[FairfieldLife] Re: Chopra nothing without Maharishi

2013-08-16 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808" > > wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In Fairfie

[FairfieldLife] Re: Chopra nothing without Maharishi

2013-08-16 Thread Jason
> > > > --- "salyavin808" wrote: > > > > > > It's interesting why there are so few female philosophers, > > > same reason there are so few top women chess players perhaps. > > > A simplistic view would be the old Mars/Venus thing. But I > > > think it's less a "women are more touchy-feely" th

[FairfieldLife] Re: Chopra nothing without Maharishi

2013-08-16 Thread salyavin808
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808" > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > It's interesting

[FairfieldLife] Re: Chopra nothing without Maharishi

2013-08-16 Thread turquoiseb
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808" > > wrote: > > > > > > It's interesting why there are so few female philosophers, > > > same reason there are so fe

[FairfieldLife] Re: Chopra nothing without Maharishi

2013-08-16 Thread salyavin808
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808" wrote: > > > > It's interesting why there are so few female philosophers, > > same reason there are so few top women chess players perhaps. > > A simplistic view would be the old Ma

[FairfieldLife] Re: Chopra nothing without Maharishi

2013-08-16 Thread turquoiseb
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808" wrote: > > It's interesting why there are so few female philosophers, > same reason there are so few top women chess players perhaps. > A simplistic view would be the old Mars/Venus thing. But I > think it's less a "women are more touchy-feely

[FairfieldLife] Re: Chopra nothing without Maharishi

2013-08-16 Thread salyavin808
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808" wrote: > > > > I hope that's not an argument from authority, probably > > the least convincing way of winning an argument. All > > of the ID crowd were "highly respected" PHDs, just n

[FairfieldLife] Re: Chopra nothing without Maharishi

2013-08-16 Thread turquoiseb
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808" wrote: > > I hope that's not an argument from authority, probably > the least convincing way of winning an argument. All > of the ID crowd were "highly respected" PHDs, just not > any more, chortle. Isn't it fascinating that to some people who c

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