[FairfieldLife] Re: Laughing With, At and At/With

2006-01-17 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Jan 16, 2006, at 3:22 AM, sparaig wrote: > > > Of course, is Buddhism what the Buddha taught? > > Which Buddha? > whichever. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern da

[FairfieldLife] Re: Laughing With, At and At/With

2006-01-16 Thread tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis
anonff write to Peter: The experiece was very confusing to have and moreso to describe. If I were the one doing the witnessing, I would experience myself as separate from Being. This was not that. I would be, say, standing and talking to someone, see them, see their mouth moving, hear the words

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Laughing With, At and At/With

2006-01-16 Thread Vaj
On Jan 16, 2006, at 3:22 AM, sparaig wrote:Of course, is Buddhism what the Buddha taught? Which Buddha? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS

[FairfieldLife] Re: Laughing With, At and At/With

2006-01-16 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "mrfishey2001" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Richard J. Williams" > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > "Any idiot who had only read

[FairfieldLife] Re: Laughing With, At and At/With

2006-01-15 Thread a_non_moose_ff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "mrfishey2001" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > "...Just as you assumed that it was Ok to trash a book > you've never read because of its pop-culture title. > Elitists te

[FairfieldLife] Re: Laughing With, At and At/With

2006-01-15 Thread mrfishey2001
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: "...Just as you assumed that it was Ok to trash a book you've never read because of its pop-culture title. Elitists tend to think alike." My heavens we have struck a nerve. How youÕve divined from the pixels before

[FairfieldLife] Re: Laughing With, At and At/With

2006-01-15 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "mrfishey2001" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Richard J. Williams" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > "Any idiot who had only read "Buddhism For Dummies" > (and yes, there is such a book, and strangely enough > it's actual

[FairfieldLife] Re: Laughing With, At and At/With

2006-01-15 Thread mrfishey2001
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Richard J. Williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: "Any idiot who had only read "Buddhism For Dummies" (and yes, there is such a book, and strangely enough it's actually pretty good) could come up with a dozen things in Bevan's talk that indicate he has neve

[FairfieldLife] Re: Laughing With, At and At/With

2006-01-15 Thread Richard J. Williams
TurquoiseB wrote: > But as it turns out I have neither had, nor have > I ever sought, any experience that could in any way be > descried as "there is no me-vs-them, we are all one." > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Sri Bevan Morris to be Mahesh's successor Newsgroups: alt.meditation.transc

[FairfieldLife] Re: Laughing With, At and At/With

2006-01-15 Thread Richard J. Williams
TurquoiseB wrote: > The thing I'm still working on is how to improve > my compassion when dealing with skunks. > Heh. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Laughing With, At and At/With

2006-01-15 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "qntmpkt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- So, you have that "experience" of witnessing. Good, and may I > ask, has this led to a total eradication of suffering in the world? It has allowed me to see Reality, that everything is in balance. Do bad things st

[FairfieldLife] Re: Laughing With, At and At/With

2006-01-15 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, a_non_moose_ff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Do you treat people as well as you are able to > > treat them, Barry? > > I think he does. He just apparently is severely challen

[FairfieldLife] Re: Laughing With, At and At/With

2006-01-15 Thread a_non_moose_ff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "qntmpkt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > > > --- So, you have that "experience" of wi

[FairfieldLife] Re: Laughing With, At and At/With

2006-01-15 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "qntmpkt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > > > --- So, you have that "experience" of witness

[FairfieldLife] Re: Laughing With, At and At/With

2006-01-14 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "qntmpkt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > --- So, you have that "experience" of witnessing. Good, > > and may I ask, has this led to a total eradication of > > suffering in t

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Laughing With, At and At/With

2006-01-14 Thread Peter
Sounds like the perfect duality of CC. There is Self/nothingness/consciousness and then everything else which has this "flat" or false quality to it. As if it isn't real at all. I used to call it the cardboard world. No substance to it. It all hung like a tiny basket within That. --- anonyff <[EMA

[FairfieldLife] Re: Laughing With, At and At/With

2006-01-14 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "qntmpkt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- So, you have that "experience" of witnessing. Good, > and may I ask, has this led to a total eradication of > suffering in the world? Is total eradication of suffering in the world the only worthy goal to have w

[FairfieldLife] Re: Laughing With, At and At/With

2006-01-14 Thread qntmpkt
--- So, you have that "experience" of witnessing. Good, and may I ask, has this led to a total eradication of suffering in the world? If not, why not? Your experience, if that word can be used (since it's happening to a relative body) leaves one in the dark as to "so what?"...what are the cons

[FairfieldLife] Re: Laughing With, At and At/With

2006-01-14 Thread anonyff
Peter The experiece was very confusing to have and moreso to describe. If I were the one doing the witnessing, I would experience myself as separate from Being. This was not that. I would be, say, standing and talking to someone, see them, see their mouth moving, hear the words but they seemed

[FairfieldLife] Re: Laughing With, At and At/With

2006-01-14 Thread a_non_moose_ff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > --- anonyff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I have/had an experience for a few months and on and > > off since, that > > left me baffled and I spoke directly to Maharishi > > about it on a coufse > > back in 1980. My

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Laughing With, At and At/With

2006-01-14 Thread Peter
--- anonyff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have/had an experience for a few months and on and > off since, that > left me baffled and I spoke directly to Maharishi > about it on a coufse > back in 1980. My experience was one in which while I > was standing > there talking to someone I experience

[FairfieldLife] Re: Laughing With, At and At/With

2006-01-14 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > > > Is Awakening something to be "believ

[FairfieldLife] Re: Laughing With, At and At/With

2006-01-14 Thread anonyff
I have/had an experience for a few months and on and off since, that left me baffled and I spoke directly to Maharishi about it on a coufse back in 1980. My experience was one in which while I was standing there talking to someone I experienced that they were separate from Being. The way I describe

[FairfieldLife] Re: Laughing With, At and At/With

2006-01-14 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In > FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Of course one needs to be aware of the true definition of Assume. > > As I remember the statement goes, When

[FairfieldLife] Re: Laughing With, At and At/With

2006-01-14 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Spare egg writes: > Of course, Barry has never denied his intent to laugh AT people. > Rather he has embraced and defended it. Seems a not very difficult > job of mind-reading to assume somet

[FairfieldLife] Re: Laughing With, At and At/With

2006-01-14 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > Is Awakening something to be "believed in"? Does what > > you believe in have anything to do with becoming > > enlightened? >

[FairfieldLife] Re: Laughing With, At and At/With

2006-01-14 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > Is Awakening something to be "believed in"? Does what > > you believe in have anything to do with becoming > > enlightened? >

[FairfieldLife] Re: Laughing With, At and At/With

2006-01-13 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Is Awakening something to be "believed in"? Does what > you believe in have anything to do with becoming > enlightened? Yes, you must absolutely believe in the fact that you can and will gain enlightenment, no matt

[FairfieldLife] Re: Laughing With, At and At/With

2006-01-13 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Alex Stanley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Alex Stanley" > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > Never a dull moment in Mah

[FairfieldLife] Re: Laughing With, At and At/With

2006-01-13 Thread a_non_moose_ff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Alex Stanley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Alex Stanley" > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > Never a dull moment in MahaR

[FairfieldLife] Re: Laughing With, At and At/With

2006-01-13 Thread Alex Stanley
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Alex Stanley" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Never a dull moment in MahaRicky's Yahoovad Gita, where the > > mahafuckyas flow fast and furious. > > > A couple of questio

[FairfieldLife] Re: Laughing With, At and At/With

2006-01-13 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Alex Stanley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Never a dull moment in MahaRicky's Yahoovad Gita, where the > mahafuckyas flow fast and furious. > A couple of question for you: 1. what is the natural dynamic being expressed as the result of the above? 2. what

[FairfieldLife] Re: Laughing With, At and At/With

2006-01-13 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Jan 13, 2006, at 11:08 AM, jim_flanegin wrote: > > > So, the same with akashanon. > > He actually prefers "Akashic Moose". > for dessert? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Jo

[FairfieldLife] Re: Laughing With, At and At/With

2006-01-13 Thread a_non_moose_ff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, a_non_moose_ff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > But as it turns out I have neither had, nor hav

[FairfieldLife] Re: Laughing With, At and At/With

2006-01-13 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, a_non_moose_ff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > But as it turns out I have neither had, nor h

[FairfieldLife] Re: Laughing With, At and At/With

2006-01-13 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > > The first is that I am > > > *immensely* grat

[FairfieldLife] Re: Laughing With, At and At/With

2006-01-13 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, a_non_moose_ff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > But as it turns out I have neither had, nor have > > I ever sought, any experience that could in any way be > > descried as "there is n

[FairfieldLife] Re: Laughing With, At and At/With

2006-01-13 Thread a_non_moose_ff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Alex Stanley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Alex Stanley" > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > Never a dull moment in MahaRicky's

[FairfieldLife] Re: Laughing With, At and At/With

2006-01-13 Thread Alex Stanley
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Alex Stanley" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Never a dull moment in MahaRicky's Yahoovad Gita, where the > > mahafuckyas flow fast and furious. > > "Mahafuckyas. Now THAT

[FairfieldLife] Re: Laughing With, At and At/With

2006-01-13 Thread a_non_moose_ff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > But as it turns out I have neither had, nor have > I ever sought, any experience that could in any way be > descried as "there is no me-vs-them, we are all one." > > I suspect that this description has almost nothing t

[FairfieldLife] Re: Laughing With, At and At/With

2006-01-13 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > The first is that I am > > *immensely* grateful that, unlike them, I have had my own > > experiences of enlightenment > > But apparen

[FairfieldLife] Re: Laughing With, At and At/With

2006-01-13 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, a_non_moose_ff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroup

[FairfieldLife] Re: Laughing With, At and At/With

2006-01-13 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Oh, I thought Tom said we are all one. Are you contradicting > > him? Or just not walking your talk? > > What makes you think that one person's experiences, > even the experiences of enlightenment, have anything >

[FairfieldLife] Re: Laughing With, At and At/With

2006-01-13 Thread a_non_moose_ff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > The first is that I am > > *immensely* grateful that, unlike them, I have had my own > > experiences of enlightenment > > But appare

[FairfieldLife] Re: Laughing With, At and At/With

2006-01-13 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The first is that I am > *immensely* grateful that, unlike them, I have had my own > experiences of enlightenment But apparently not the "There is no me-versus-them, we-are-all one"-experience...

[FairfieldLife] Re: Laughing With, At and At/With

2006-01-13 Thread a_non_moose_ff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, a_non_moose_ff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > > > So, the same with akashanon. The more he challenges what we > who have Awakened express, the stronger it gets. I don't k

[FairfieldLife] Re: Laughing With, At and At/With

2006-01-13 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Alex Stanley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Never a dull moment in MahaRicky's Yahoovad Gita, where the > mahafuckyas flow fast and furious. "Mahafuckyas. Now THAT cracked me right up! Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -

[FairfieldLife] Re: Laughing With, At and At/With

2006-01-13 Thread a_non_moose_ff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, a_non_moose_ff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Laughing With, At and At/With

2006-01-13 Thread Vaj
On Jan 13, 2006, at 11:08 AM, jim_flanegin wrote:So, the same with akashanon. He actually prefers "Akashic Moose". To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS

[FairfieldLife] Re: Laughing With, At and At/With

2006-01-13 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Jim Flanegin: > So, the same with akashanon. The more he challenges what we who have > Awakened express, the stronger it gets. I don't know whether it > helps him or not, though... > > Tom

[FairfieldLife] Re: Laughing With, At and At/With

2006-01-13 Thread Alex Stanley
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The cool thing about akashanon's constant parrying and challenging > is that it strengthens the Awakening experience of those who are > challenged. > > Its like this dude I encountered in the post office the ot

[FairfieldLife] Re: Laughing With, At and At/With

2006-01-13 Thread a_non_moose_ff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Oh, I thought Tom said we are all one. Are you contradicting > > him? Or just not walking your talk? > > What makes you think that one person's experiences, > even the experiences of enlightenment, have anything >

[FairfieldLife] Re: Laughing With, At and At/With

2006-01-13 Thread a_non_moose_ff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Akashanon writes: I have said, 'hey guys, lets focus on substance.' > > TorquiseB writes: > Dude, why don't you try being honest with yourself > for once. What you *meant* by "Let's focus on >

[FairfieldLife] Re: Laughing With, At and At/With

2006-01-13 Thread tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis
Jim Flanegin: So, the same with akashanon. The more he challenges what we who have Awakened express, the stronger it gets. I don't know whether it helps him or not, though... Tom T: Darn Jim you weren't supposed to tell him. He is such a perfect mirror of how it used to be that is not hard to r

[FairfieldLife] Re: Laughing With, At and At/With

2006-01-13 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, a_non_moose_ff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > So, the same with

[FairfieldLife] Re: Laughing With, At and At/With

2006-01-13 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > > > > > So, the same with akashanon. The more he challenges what we who > > have Awakened express, the stronger it gets. I

[FairfieldLife] Re: Laughing With, At and At/With

2006-01-13 Thread TurquoiseB
> Oh, I thought Tom said we are all one. Are you contradicting > him? Or just not walking your talk? What makes you think that one person's experiences, even the experiences of enlightenment, have anything to do with anyone else's? I make no such assumption. Tom has had his own experiences, and

[FairfieldLife] Re: Laughing With, At and At/With

2006-01-13 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, a_non_moose_ff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, a_non_moose_ff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yaho

[FairfieldLife] Re: Laughing With, At and At/With

2006-01-13 Thread a_non_moose_ff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, a_non_moose_ff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > So, the same with akashanon. The

[FairfieldLife] Re: Laughing With, At and At/With

2006-01-13 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, a_non_moose_ff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > So, the same with akashanon. The more he challenges what we who have > > Awakened express, the stronger it gets. I don't know

[FairfieldLife] Re: Laughing With, At and At/With

2006-01-13 Thread a_non_moose_ff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > > > > > So, the same with akashanon. The more he challenges what we who > > have Awakened express, the stronger it gets. I d

[FairfieldLife] Re: Laughing With, At and At/With

2006-01-13 Thread a_non_moose_ff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In > FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Akashanon writes: I have said, 'hey guys, lets focus on substance.' > > > > TorquiseB writes: > > Du

[FairfieldLife] Re: Laughing With, At and At/With

2006-01-13 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > So, the same with akashanon. The more he challenges what we who > have Awakened express, the stronger it gets. I don't know whether > it helps him or not, though... I suspect it has the opposite effect, bu

[FairfieldLife] Re: Laughing With, At and At/With

2006-01-13 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Akashanon writes: I have said, 'hey guys, lets focus on substance.' > > TorquiseB writes: > Dude, why don't you try being honest with yourself > for once. What you *meant* by "Let's focus on

[FairfieldLife] Re: Laughing With, At and At/With

2006-01-13 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > OTOT, a working set of hypotheses of a persons moods and > > > > intentions may help one be more sesnsitive. For example, > > > > thinking, "It sounds like he MAY be mad at something. Just > > > > in case, I w

[FairfieldLife] Re: Laughing With, At and At/With

2006-01-13 Thread a_non_moose_ff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > OTOT, a working set of hypotheses of a persons moods and > > > > intentions may help one be more sesnsitive. For example, > > > > thinking, "It sounds like he MAY be mad at something. Just > > > > in case, I wi

[FairfieldLife] Re: Laughing With, At and At/With

2006-01-13 Thread TurquoiseB
> > > OTOT, a working set of hypotheses of a persons moods and > > > intentions may help one be more sesnsitive. For example, > > > thinking, "It sounds like he MAY be mad at something. Just > > > in case, I will be careful not to use ambiguous language, > > > in case, I will be careful not or

[FairfieldLife] Re: Laughing With, At and At/With

2006-01-13 Thread a_non_moose_ff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Akashanon writes: I have said, 'hey guys, lets focus on substance.' > > TorquiseB writes: > Dude, why don't you try being honest with yourself > for once. What you *meant* by "Let's focus on >

[FairfieldLife] Re: Laughing With, At and At/With

2006-01-13 Thread a_non_moose_ff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > I'll try again, briefly. To laugh *at* someone is, > > virtually by definition, an attack. Confirming that > > one is laughing *

[FairfieldLife] Re: Laughing With, At and At/With

2006-01-13 Thread a_non_moose_ff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, a_non_moose_ff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > OTOT, a working set of hypotheses of a persons moods and intentions > > may help one be more sesnsitive. For example, thinking,

[FairfieldLife] Re: Laughing With, At and At/With

2006-01-13 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Laughing at someone is always an attack, > > virtually by definition. As I've noted > > several times, however, that doesn't mean

[FairfieldLife] Re: Laughing With, At and At/With

2006-01-13 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Laughing at someone is always an attack, > virtually by definition. As I've noted > several times, however, that doesn't mean > that the person laughed at *feels* attacked. > You're conflating the perspective of the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Laughing With, At and At/With

2006-01-13 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > I'll try again, briefly. To laugh *at* someone is, > > virtually by definition, an attack. Confirming that > > one is laughing

[FairfieldLife] Re: Laughing With, At and At/With

2006-01-13 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I believe that Barry has indicated that he believes that laughing > AT is good for the person being laughed at, or something along > those lines. He's even implied that he WAS attacking, but won't > quite own up to it e

[FairfieldLife] Re: Laughing With, At and At/With

2006-01-13 Thread tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis
Akashanon writes: I have said, 'hey guys, lets focus on substance.' TorquiseB writes: Dude, why don't you try being honest with yourself for once. What you *meant* by "Let's focus on substance" was "Let's all talk about what *I* want to talk about, in the pseudointellectual way I like to talk ab

[FairfieldLife] Re: Laughing With, At and At/With

2006-01-13 Thread tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis
Spare egg writes: Of course, Barry has never denied his intent to laugh AT people. Rather he has embraced and defended it. Seems a not very difficult job of mind-reading to assume something, comment on that assumption, and get CONFIRMATION of that assumption and therefore to continue to assume

[FairfieldLife] Re: Laughing With, At and At/With

2006-01-13 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, a_non_moose_ff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > But, why bother with what often/usually is perceived as an > > attack, and then criticize for saying "that's an attack?" > > I don'

[FairfieldLife] Re: Laughing With, At and At/With

2006-01-13 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I'll try again, briefly. To laugh *at* someone is, > virtually by definition, an attack. Confirming that > one is laughing *at* somebody is therefore equivalent > to stating one's intention, so no minds need to be

[FairfieldLife] Re: Laughing With, At and At/With

2006-01-13 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, a_non_moose_ff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > OTOT, a working set of hypotheses of a persons moods and intentions > may help one be more sesnsitive. For example, thinking, "It sounds > like he MAY be mad at something. Just in case, I will be careful not > to

[FairfieldLife] Re: Laughing With, At and At/With

2006-01-12 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, a_non_moose_ff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, a_non_moose_ff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups

[FairfieldLife] Re: Laughing With, At and At/With

2006-01-12 Thread a_non_moose_ff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, a_non_moose_ff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, a_non_moose_ff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Laughing With, At and At/With

2006-01-12 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Judy writes: > Sure. But it would be more accurate to say (of the > ant and Barry), "That isn't the kind of attack that > can do you any damage." What makes it an attack is > the intention of

[FairfieldLife] Re: Laughing With, At and At/With

2006-01-12 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, a_non_moose_ff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, a_non_moose_ff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Laughing With, At and At/With

2006-01-12 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, a_non_moose_ff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, a_non

[FairfieldLife] Re: Laughing With, At and At/With

2006-01-12 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, a_non_moose_ff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I assume most view laughing with someone as a good thing. > > I think satire is an attempt to get everyone laughing. The target may > see themselves in the satire, but can take refuge and think "well at > least

[FairfieldLife] Re: Laughing With, At and At/With

2006-01-12 Thread wayback71
Alright already I humbly suggest folks, it's time to move on. Maybe go to law school. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In > FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Judy writes

[FairfieldLife] Re: Laughing With, At and At/With

2006-01-12 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Judy writes: > Sure. But it would be more accurate to say (of the > ant and Barry), "That isn't the kind of attack that > can do you any damage." What makes it an attack is > the intention of

[FairfieldLife] Re: Laughing With, At and At/With

2006-01-12 Thread a_non_moose_ff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Judy writes: > Sure. But it would be more accurate to say (of the > ant and Barry), "That isn't the kind of attack that > can do you any damage." What makes it an attack is > the intention of t

[FairfieldLife] Re: Laughing With, At and At/With

2006-01-12 Thread tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis
Judy writes: Sure. But it would be more accurate to say (of the ant and Barry), "That isn't the kind of attack that can do you any damage." What makes it an attack is the intention of the attacker, not the effect on the attackee. Tom T: The thought stopper for me in this was who and how is the i

[FairfieldLife] Re: Laughing With, At and At/With

2006-01-12 Thread a_non_moose_ff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, a_non_moose_ff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, a_non_moo

[FairfieldLife] Re: Laughing With, At and At/With

2006-01-12 Thread a_non_moose_ff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, a_non_moose_ff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, a_non_m

[FairfieldLife] Re: Laughing With, At and At/With

2006-01-12 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, a_non_moose_ff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, a_non_moose_ff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > > > And then there is the one-on-o

[FairfieldLife] Re: Laughing With, At and At/With

2006-01-12 Thread a_non_moose_ff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, a_non_moose_ff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, a_non_moose_ff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > > > And then there is the one-on-one

[FairfieldLife] Re: Laughing With, At and At/With

2006-01-12 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, a_non_moose_ff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, a_non_moose_ff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > > > And then there is the one-on-one put

[FairfieldLife] Re: Laughing With, At and At/With

2006-01-12 Thread a_non_moose_ff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, a_non_moose_ff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > And then there is the one-on-one put down. Not the most refined > > behavior. But for it to be an attack, to draw blood, the in

[FairfieldLife] Re: Laughing With, At and At/With

2006-01-12 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, a_non_moose_ff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > And then there is the one-on-one put down. Not the most refined > behavior. But for it to be an attack, to draw blood, the insultee > has to play victim and accept it as an insult. "For it to be an attack" and "for