Re: [Felvtalk] FelV positive kittens
I recused a cat who was approx. 3 years old. She tested positive the first time for FELV but three months later she tested negative on the ELISA and the IFA. The first time she tested positive the vet hinted that I should euthanize her! I am so glad I did not listen to him. BTW, he is no longer my vet. Jannes From: Liz Lee Morris To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2012 11:01 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FelV positive kittens Hi, I have a kitten who tested Felv positive at 5 weeks old on both the IFA and Elisa test. Both were done on the same day. He is so precious to me and I am so sad. The vet basically said he has no chance. I have been giving him lysine daily and lots of love. He is now 3 months old and is happy and appears healthy. Is it possible that he might be negative now? From:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lee Evans Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2012 11:55 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FelV positive kittens Hang in there Lorrie. Sometimes they turn. Did you ever find the mom cat? If so, have her tested too. If she's young, she may turn negative in 90 days also. The ones a year or younger sometimes do. Even older cats can fight it off. I have a cat who was positive when rescued. He was about 2-3 years old, male. Had him for about 90 days in a separate room, retested with IFA test and again with the ELISA test and he was negative with both tests. I still have Moses. It has been 6 years now. Percy, a recent rescue tested positive for FIV and FeLv. Kept him in a room for 90 days also, retested. He's FIV+ but negative for FeLv so I moved him to my little FIV+ area. He's doing fine. Unfortunately, Smooch and Taco were also adult FeLv+ cats, stayed positive after 90 days. They roomed together, separate from my other cats for 2 years, died within a month of each other. Sad but at least they had those 2 years. Two years to a cat is like 5 years to us. Hugs to you and the kittens. Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty neighbors too! From:Lorrie To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2012 7:38 AM Subject: [Felvtalk] FelV positive kittens I rescued a litter of four kittens two months ago. Had them tested yesterday for FelV and all 4 are positive! I am heartsick. However, I have a FelV section in my cageless shelter building where they will be able to stay until they are tested again in 90 days. They appear so healthy and playful right now, and I can't bear to put them to sleep. Still I know some of them may not make it SO SAD. Lorrie ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] My Siggie
So very sorry! My heart goes out to you.. Jannes From: Lynda Wilson To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2012 12:10 PMSubject: Re: [Felvtalk] My Siggie Terri, So sorry for your loss of Siggie. Orange tabbies are very dear to my heart! RIP, Siggie. Hugs to you Terri~ Lynda - Original Message - From: Terri Brown To: RQP ; felvtalk ; Persian_Rescue ; FLUTD listserv Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2012 10:24 AM Subject: [Felvtalk] My Siggie Photo E-mail View slideshow | Download images Hello everyone, Some of you have known me for a while -- others not. Just writing to let you all know my healthy, non-FeLV cat Siggie has left me for the Rainbow Bridge. He was the last of my original group who did NOT have FeLV. He was my FeLV+ Salome's companion up until she passed in 2005 (right after I adopted Travis from Res-Q-Pets). He was fine all day yesterday. Then suddenly, he couldn't walk or breathe. He was wheezing terribly, and was dragging his hind quarters behind him, soiling himself. I rushed him to the local vet, who told me that he had fluid all in and around his lungs, was at end stage cardiac failure and had threw a clot, which is what paralyzed him. The kindest thing I could do for him was to let them put him down -- but he ended up not needing the help. They gave him a sedative, and before they injected the final shot of the pink stuff, he was gone. Rest in peace and sleep well, my big orange boy. Meowmy and Daddy will miss you forever. May 2000 - Feb 15, 2012 =^..^= Terri, Guinevere, Travis, Dori, Kimiko and 8 furangels: Ruthie, Samantha, Arielle, Gareth, Alec, Salome, Sammi and Siggie the Tomato Vampire =^..^= These photos will be available on SkyDrive for 30 days. To learn more about SkyDrive, click here.To share high quality pictures with your friends and family using MSN Photo E-mail, join MSN. ___Felvtalk mailing listFelvtalk@felineleukemia.orghttp://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org___Felvtalk mailing listFelvtalk@felineleukemia.orghttp://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Dublin woke up from surgery blind
I rescued a blind and deaf 10 year old cat that was left out in an open field to die a little over two weeks ago. I hope your cat regains his sight but if he doesn't, please don't panic. He will learn to adjust in time. I am so sorry! Search the internet. There is a lot of info on there regarding blind cats. Jannes From: Beth To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 11:15 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Dublin woke up from surgery blind Sometimes the sight comes back. We had a non-FeLV cat at the shelter that went bling after surgery & she slowly regained her sight after a couple weeks. Beth Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org From: Anne Myles To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 11:32 AM Subject: [Felvtalk] Dublin woke up from surgery blind I am devastated -- my FeLV boy Dublin had major dental surgery yesterday to remove the rest of his teeth due to severe stomatitis and feline resorptive lesions (his third dental surgery in six months). He came through OK it seemed, and his bloodwork turned out to be very promising (his mild anemia around December had reversed with his hematocrit in the middle of the normal range). But something seemed off with agitation and his eyes and the vet realized that Dublin seems to be blind. He did all the ocular tests they do and nothing physiologically can be found wrong -- no detached retina, no bleed, no evidence of hypoxia, etc. But only his left eye is even minimally reactive to light. The vet believes the blindness to be related to the FeLV, although I'm still totally confused about the suddenness of this all. Dublin has always had something weird about his eyes -- the pupils stay mostly dilated and while they constrict a little it's definitely not like a normal cat. I wondered if he had an eye problem and could see well even before I adopted him and learned he was FeLV+. But he seemed to see fine. While Dublin is physically stable he is apparently extremely agitated and the vet wants to keep him at the hospital until he settles down and begins to adapt. He was with him until 10:30 last night and says that Dubbie has scarcely been out of a tech's arms since. (He is the most loving, people-oriented cat, and is not stressed just from being at the vet -- it's almost a joke how much he likes it there.) I am crazy with distress and also with anxiety about bringing him home (have another cat, pretty rowdy, and a dog), though everyone says blind cats can do well. I'd appreciate any encouragement -- or in particular any insight into a FeLV-blindness link. Anne ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Poem: This Old Cat
Love this poem! Two weeks ago we rescued an blind and deaf cat who is guesstimated to be 10 years old. Another challenge in my life but so glad to be of service. Thanks for sharing such a beautiful poem. Jannes From: Marcia To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2012 5:14 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Poem: This Old Cat It's beautiful! I will share this with the cat lovers I know. Thank you Natalie(: Sent from my iPhone On Feb 10, 2012, at 7:00 PM, GRAS wrote: Have to share this with my fellow cat lovers, Natalie > >This Old Cat > >I'm getting on in years, >My coat is turning gray. >My eyes have lost their luster, >My hearing's just okay. >I spend my day dreaming >Of conquests in my past, >Lying near a sunny window >Waiting for its warm repast. > >I remember our first visit, >I was coming to you free, >Hoping you would take me in >And keep me company. >I wasn't young or handsome, >Two years I'd roamed the street. >There were scars upon my face, >I hobbled on my feet. > >I could sense your disappointment >As I left my prison cage. >Oh, I hoped you would accept me >And look beyond my age. >You took me out of pity, >I accepted without shame. >Then you grew to love me, >And I admit the same. > >I have shared with you your laughter, >You have wet my fur with tears. >We've come to know each other >Throughout these many years. >Just one more hug this morning >Before you drive away, >And know I'll think about you >Throughout your busy day. > >The time we've left together >Is a treasured time at that. >My heart is yours forever. >I Promise - This old cat. > >~K.C. Bigamon > ___ >Felvtalk mailing list >Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Exposure to Feline Leukemia Does Not Always Result inDisease
So many cats are put down unecessarily after testing positive on the first test. I went through this with my sweet Calico, Amber. After rescuing her, she tested positive in the vets office and they thought I should end her life. I decided against that had her retested 3 months later. She tested negative and also had a negative IFA test. I've had her 9 months now and she is an 8lb kitty who bullies the three other cats who are twice her size. She likes to have boxing matches with them. They never hurt each other. She just wants to show she is not afraid. LOL. She is so full of energy and very affectionate when she wants to be. I am so glad I waited and did not end the life of this precious animal. Jannes From: Lynda Wilson To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, December 26, 2011 7:19 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Exposure to Feline Leukemia Does Not Always Result inDisease This is what I have read about FeLV as well. L - Original Message - >From: GRAS >To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >Sent: Monday, December 26, 2011 5:03 PM >Subject: [Felvtalk] Exposure to Feline Leukemia Does Not Always Result >inDisease > > > >Exposure to Feline Leukemia Does Not Always Result in Disease >by JaneA Kelley, Cat expert and animal communicator > > When a cat is exposed to the feline leukemia virus (FeLV), the cat might > have a transient infection and fight it off, developing immunity -- some vets > say that up to 70 percent of adult cats survive exposure this way. If the cat > doesn't overcome the initial infection, the virus will move to the bone > marrow and the cat will be persistently infected. And finally, the cat may > continue to harbor the virus, thereby becoming a carrier. > >Many latently infected cats actually become free of the virus after a few >years, but others become persistently infected. Cats that test positive should >be retested 12 weeks later to confirm the diagnosis. > > > >Add a comment | > > > >___ >Felvtalk mailing list >Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >http://fusion2.fusionhost.com/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org >___Felvtalk mailing >listFelvtalk@felineleukemia.orghttp://fusion2.fusionhost.com/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://fusion2.fusionhost.com/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] stray kitten positive any advice for me
Please do not give up hope. Wait the three months and have her tested again. I rescued a cat who was approx 3 years old who also tested positive. Three months later she tested negative. I also had an IFA test done on her which also came out negative. The vet eluded to me having her put to sleep after she tested positive but my intuition say no! This was back in March. Today she is a healthy, happy, 8 lb cat who bullies the other cats who are twice her size.LOL... She is also very loving and such a joy in our lives. They can clear this disease from their system or the test could be wrong. Please wait and have her tested again. Jannes From: MaiMaiPG To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, November 7, 2011 7:45 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] stray kitten positive any advice for me There are holistic remedies for the gum issues. That was the only sign Dixie showedask questions and seek information. A lot of emails get chopped because they are too long to post---someone else can explain this. On Nov 7, 2011, at 7:33 PM, dppl dppl wrote: >thank you all for responding so quickly. when i have more time I will review >all archives. I hope i am posting correctly by sending these emails. I see my >post is all chopped up (at least in my display ). Thanks for your advice. I >guess i will take things day by day. thanks also for the advice to get the >other test as a follow up.i can only hope it turns out negative. I am worried >about the redness of his gums which he is on an antibiotic for. Vet attributed >it to gingivitis and teething but this was pre finding out the positive test >results. > > > > >From: dppl dppl >To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" >Sent: Monday, November 7, 2011 6:52 PM >Subject: stray kitten positive any advice for me > > >I came across this site, having just been informed by the vet that the >abandoned kitten I took in three weeks ago. Before I took it to the vet, I >have been keeping it in a separate room but admit that since it seemed so >healthy I let it out for little walks. I have 4 cats over 12 years old. Other >than walking on the same floors, they have not had contact with this kitten. >In our short phone call, the vet basically said that she would understand if I >euthanized the cat and that she wasn't sure about false positive and whether >retesting would be worthwhile. The cat also has hookworms. When I took the >cat in, she suggested that I give it its vaccinations before waiting for test >results. I asked if the cat turned out postitive, wouldn't this harm its >immune system. she said no. Now when she called she said she was surprised >that the cat tested positive since, other than the sore gums, which she >attirbuted to teething and bad breath, she said it seemed healthy. It does seem healthy , eats well and plays. and is the sweetest cat, loving and intelligent. I am heartbroken about this. I'm sorry I haven't had time to read all archives but I work from home and also take care of my bedridden elderly mother. Is there anyone out there would be kind enough to give me some advice? Thank you. PS the test done was elisa and it just says "positive" the vet estimates the cat is from 5-6 months old. > >___ >Felvtalk mailing list >Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Eliot Spitty and Mr. Tux - grrrreat news!
I just went through this myself with Amber who tested positive for FELV four months ago. Had her rested three months after the positive result and it was negative. Had an IFA test done and it was negative as well. She has joined the rest of the gang (my three other cats) and is bullying them! She is half their size, but I guess big things come in small packages. She only weighs 7.5 lbs and is believed to be around 3 years old. It has been an interesting week for sure! How many cats are sentenced to being isolated or in some instances euthanized because their first test was positive. It is a scary thought. I am so happy for you that all turned out well. I definately know how you feel. Now, if I can only get Amber out of her "biatch" stage all will be well. LOL Jannes From: Natalie To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Fri, June 10, 2011 8:47:44 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Eliot Spitty and Mr. Tux - geat news! I wouldn't have even thought about retesting either, had I not joined this group (thank you, all!), having always heard that once positive, always positive! These two were not just a weak positive, though! Although when I first began trapping in 1992, we did have an adult female that tested positive, and using the ELISA again, was negative 3 months later! I have brought them out of their FeLV condo to the kitchen, put a piece of plywood on top of our dog's "playpen", and they have been there since last night. Mr. Tux is almost ready to join the general population (even reaching out his paw to our dog), while Eliot is still a little confused and withdrawn. I still cannot believe it and feel absolutely horrible that they were alone, only within sight of other cats; especially poor Eliot, who was alone for 2 years before I found Mr. Tux for him! Natalie -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Bonnie Hogue Sent: Friday, June 10, 2011 2:16 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Eliot Spitty and Mr. Tux - geat news! This happened to my mom's cat, Lucky. He initially tested "weak positive" when I took him to the vet (he was in terrible shape, sick, flea-ridden, had lost weight). Then, because of what I learned HERE (bless you all) I had Lucky retested on the IFA and he came back negative! He has other health issues, but apparently FeLeuk isn't one of them. Good news, Natalie. Congratulations to you and your furry buddies! ~Bonnie -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Natalie Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2011 7:51 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Eliot Spitty and Mr. Tux - geat news! Yes! Now the question is, did they shed the virus, or was the first test result false? I'm just so happy, I don't care - but it would be nice to know how this whole thing works! I wonder how many cats there are out there that aren't really positive and are getting killed for nothing.. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Beth Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2011 10:34 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Eliot Spitty and Mr. Tux - geat news! Are they positive on the Elisa, just not the IFA? Beth Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org --- On Thu, 6/9/11, Natalie wrote: From: Natalie Subject: [Felvtalk] Eliot Spitty and Mr. Tux - geat news! To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Thursday, June 9, 2011, 9:54 AM My two FeLV boyz were given the IFA test on Monday afternoon., and we were eagerly awaiting results, although I wasn’t setting myself up for any miracles. Last night, just as I sat down and started giving one of our renal failure cats her daily fluids, the phone rang: It was my vet, but I couldn’t get to the phone. He did not leave a message, and when I called back, hospital was already closed. I just got a call from the receptionist….she told me that the test results were NEGATIVE! (Retesting of Sox, a NJ FIV cat, came back positive again – the poor cat has painful stomatitis!) For two long years, Eliot was all alone, then I was able to find FeLV positive Mr. Tux in NJ! They’ve been together for 1 ½ years. All our cats have access to outdoor enclosures…..they did not, and I was desperately trying to figure out how I could accomplish that. No need to worry about that anymore – I will get them into the “general population” with access to a nice big outdoor enclosure to use as they please! ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleuk
Re: [Felvtalk] Cat Bite
Amber had her rabies shot three months ago on the same day she was diagnosed with the FELV. After I decided i was not going to euthanize her, I let them give her the other shots. I told the doctor this morning what happened and that I had told my vet about it. She just said to keep an eye on the cat...I guess to see if she shows signs of rabies. She did not say anything about reporting it. She wants me to have the x-ray next week and come back in 10 days for a follow up. The bite was on my hand actually, just below my thumb on the side. It still hurts! Jannes From: MaiMaiPG To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sat, June 4, 2011 2:20:25 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cat Bite Tell the doctor it was a stray and you have no clue where it went otherwise your insurance company will have a field day refusing to cover it and demanding the name of the friend etc. You can refuse rabies shots. FYI: I was at the ER within 15 minutes of the broken finger, having the wound cleaned, x-rayed etc. It still got infected. You have a lot more wiggle room on an arm though. IMHO. On Jun 4, 2011, at 8:40 AM, molvey...@hotmail.com wrote: > Yes. Go get a tetanus shot if you haven't had one in the last ten years. > It's >just a safety precaution, but my Doc fussed at me recently for not doing it >after I got bit. Be careful about giving him too much info about the cat. >Tell >him it was a friend's cat. Sometimes the Docs will say you need to report it >in >case the animal has rabies. Don't do it. You'll be forced to take her to >Animal Control so they can hold her for ten days to make sure she doesn't have >rabies. Just tell him you were holding your friend's indoor only cat when you >got bit and that you're not giving him your friend's name because she lives >out >of state. Yes, I'm paranoid but I've seen it happen. > > The doc may want to prescribe you some antibiotics just in case. Probably >wouldn't hurt to take them. If you washed your hand really good immediately >after the bite you should be okay even though it will hurt for a couple of >days. It probably won't get infected, but it's easier to take antibiotics for >a >couple of weeks as a precaution versus trying to deal with it after it became >infected. But on Monday I'd recommend going to the doc. You can also get a >tetanus shot at the health department but I was concerned they'd try to make >me >report the bite. Plus, it was more expensive than going to my doc and just >paying the co-pay. > > sent from my AT&T Smartphone by HTC > > - Reply message - > From: "Jannes Taylor" > Date: Sat, Jun 4, 2011 9:07 am > Subject: [Felvtalk] Cat Bite > To: > > Last night I had Amber in my lap upstairs. I am trying to get her use to seeing > the other cats and use to the upstairs life. I had the IFA test performed by > another vet and will hear from it next week. I am being optimistic so I wanted > to get a head start on getting her acclamated. My youngest cat Moses decided to > suddenly jump in my lap with her and Amber freaked out! In the process of > holding on to her she bit me very hard on my hand. It hurt so bad and still > does. It is red and slightly swollen. My husband thinks I am being paranoid > about it, but I had a friend who almost lost his arm due to infection from a >cat > bite. Should I visit the doctor?? > Jannes > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Cat Bite
I just got back form the doctor and got two different antibiotics, and a tetnus shot. She wants to do an x-ray next week. Their x-ray machine was not working this morning. The doctor warned me how dangerous a cat bite can be. The area is red and swollen and still hurts. I explained how the bite happened. The doc seemed satisfied with my story. I did leave out the FELV part just in case... ON A HAPPY NOTE: Just when I arrived at the doctors office I received a call from the vet. Amber's IFA test was NEGATIVE!! What a relief. Just goes to prove that every cat should be restested. Also, he guesses Amber to be from 2 to 3 years old, not 6 mo. to 1 yr.. like the last one. He said that a younger cat could not have as much tartar on their teeth as she does no matter how poor their diet. Also. he shaved her belly and it looks like she has a spay scar. I am going to get the smaller cage out and put it upstaris and I will put Amber in it occassionally so they can all sniff each other and hopefully soon get along. I am moving her into the spare bedroom as well. I do not plan to put her in my lap again!!! Jannes From: Lynda Wilson To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sat, June 4, 2011 12:43:38 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cat Bite Thanks, good to know! - Original Message - From: "Christiane Biagi" To: Sent: Saturday, June 04, 2011 12:32 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cat Bite > Dont think it has to be deep. Cats have a specific bacteria in their mouth > (begins w p) n if it gets into humans, its very toxic. Been bitten a > number of times w nothing; but last time it was bad luck. Look for the > telltale line up ur arm. Means bacteria traveling 2 lymph nofes under ur > arm. Comes pretty quicklu > > Christiane Biagi > Sent from my Samsung Epic™ 4G > > Lynda Wilson wrote: > >>Wow! Reading all of these messages with bad experience with cat bites, I >>consider myself VERY lucky. I've gotten bit a lot, but it sounds like it >>has >>to be a deep puncture type bite. Is this correct? I'm glad that you have >>shared your experiences. I bet most of us now won't mess around if we get >>bit. I know I won't! >> >>Jannes - what have you done so far? How are you feeling? Let us hear from >>you soon :0) I'm hoping you have a good outcome! >> >>Lynda >>- Original Message - >>From: "Maureen Olvey" >>To: >>Sent: Saturday, June 04, 2011 11:53 AM >>Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cat Bite >> >> >> >>OMG - when I got bit a couple months ago I just ran inside and washed it >>out >>really good with soap and water. That was it. Guess I was lucky. I had >>read that soap and water are good enough as long as you wash it good so >>now >>when I get scratched I just use soap and water. Anyway, I never went to >>the doc until three weeks later for something else. That's when I talked >>to >>him about it and he fussed at me. Guess I'll be more careful next time. >>Yikes! >> >>“I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are >>profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon >>unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me >>sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark >>Twain >> >> >> >>> From: sea7...@gmail.com >>> Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2011 11:43:40 -0500 >>> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cat Bite >>> >>> Wash the wound with antibiotic soap and keep antibiotic ointment on it. >>> Also treat with hot compresses. It will draw white blood cells to the >>> area. The Dr told me to do this. >>> Autumn bit the fire out of me when I was 6 months pregnant. My hand >>> swelled up and was red and sore. I never developed streaks, but went to >>> Urgent Care for antibiotics. Make sure you eat your yogurt, if you get >>> them. They are STRONG. FELV + have filthy mouths:-/ >>> I also urge you not to tell them that it was your cat. Just emphasize >>> that >>> said cat had it's rabies shot. >>> ~Susan A >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On Jun 4, 2011, at 8:07 AM, Jannes Taylor >>> wrote: >>> >>> > Last night I had Amber in my lap upstairs. I am trying to get her use >>> > to >>> > seeing >>> > the other cats and use to the upstairs life. I had the IFA test >>> > performed by >>> > another vet and will hear from it next week. I am being optimistic so >>
[Felvtalk] Cat Bite
Last night I had Amber in my lap upstairs. I am trying to get her use to seeing the other cats and use to the upstairs life. I had the IFA test performed by another vet and will hear from it next week. I am being optimistic so I wanted to get a head start on getting her acclamated. My youngest cat Moses decided to suddenly jump in my lap with her and Amber freaked out! In the process of holding on to her she bit me very hard on my hand. It hurt so bad and still does. It is red and slightly swollen. My husband thinks I am being paranoid about it, but I had a friend who almost lost his arm due to infection from a cat bite. Should I visit the doctor?? Jannes ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV in Bone Marrow not in Blood
Thank you Lynda. I brought Amber upstairs three times today and held on to her. She was the only one doing the hissing and growling. I will keep you posted. LOl. I really can't believe the other three were not doing the same thing. I am proud of them! Jannes From: Lynda Wilson To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Mon, May 30, 2011 7:40:45 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV in Bone Marrow not in Blood Hi Jannes! I've had just the opposite problem. All my cats have adapted well. I just got a 4 mos old kitten and he's taking his time adjusting. I'm giving him time, room and patience for him to adjust. I will admit that I'm not used to this at all. I've considered myself very lucky now considering all the cats I have had all my life and they all got along within a few days. Good luck to you and I wish you the best. They are lucky to have you, you're a good momma for them :0) Lynda - Original Message - From: "Jannes Taylor" To: Sent: Monday, May 30, 2011 12:02 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV in Bone Marrow not in Blood I am sure it is stressful for her to come upstairs and see three cats. When I rescued my last kitty before Amber, he was only two weeks old and my two other cats HATED him. I was afraid they would try to kill him. I kept him away from them for a couple of months. I only brought him out when I could keep a watchful eye on him. Now he and one of the cats are big buddies. The other cat still just tolerates him. She is very moody. She just growls and tells the others to to get out of her way. She has been like this ever since I had her spayed when she was about six months old. So, I have not had any experience with cats being social from the beginning. Oh yes, and when I got my second cat the first one hated her...LOL...things are never easy at my house.Jannes From: Lynda Wilson To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Mon, May 30, 2011 9:51:16 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV in Bone Marrow not in Blood I agree with this comment. I will also add that since stress can induce the virus out of dormancy, do you think it would be stressful to her to meet your other kitties? It's hard to determine exactly what type of stress. This IS just a thought. I would think that most cats like to be together and find it comforting since they are such social animals. I once had a "tortie" (tortoise shell) cat and she stressed very easily. I heard it was her breed. She went into diabetes when I got a dachshund puppy for our family. She later went into remission. Then I got another dachshund puppy for our other dachshund as a playmate. She then went into diabetes again. Then I knew it was all stress related. We did have another cat and when he passed away, she was the happiest cat I had ever seen. She was one of those that needed to be the "only" cat. Too bad I did not know that when I saved her at 5 weeks old. If they only came with instructions!! (by the way, I had her 17 1/2 yrs. I lost her last June to a stroke that left her unable to walk). - Original Message - From: To: "sharon Fazio" ; Sent: Monday, May 30, 2011 6:58 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV in Bone Marrow not in Blood > From my reading and limited understanding I will answer your questions. Just > don't take it as the gospel. > > If the virus is in the bone marrow but not the blood it's referred to as being > dormant. Your kitty cannot pass it to other kitties as long as it stays > dormant. One book I read did say that many times cats that contract the virus > but put it into dormancy will actually be able to extinguish the virus at some > point. So it is possible that your kitty could one day be free of it totally. > If she is not able to completely extinguish the virus it is definitely possible > that it never gets into her blood or white blood cells. The reading made it > seem like as long as the virus stays dormant then it should never cause > problems. However, it can turn viremic which means it gets into her blood. > Sometimes stress and other illnesses can activate the virus. But, whether it > causes any problems at that point is a coin toss. I've heard of cats living > into their mid to late teens even with the active virus so who knows. It's so > hard to predict how each cat's immune system will deal with the > virus. > > You are very lucky that even though she contracted the virus as a kitten that > she was able to put it into dormancy. Many kittens that get it will die young. > Maybe she will be one of those that will eventually get rid of the virus > completely since her immune system was stronger than most kittens. > > So all that just to say who the heck knows what will happen. It's so > unpredictable. You had the IFA test done too didn
Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV in Bone Marrow not in Blood
I am sure it is stressful for her to come upstairs and see three cats. When I rescued my last kitty before Amber, he was only two weeks old and my two other cats HATED him. I was afraid they would try to kill him. I kept him away from them for a couple of months. I only brought him out when I could keep a watchful eye on him. Now he and one of the cats are big buddies. The other cat still just tolerates him. She is very moody. She just growls and tells the others to to get out of her way. She has been like this ever since I had her spayed when she was about six months old. So, I have not had any experience with cats being social from the beginning. Oh yes, and when I got my second cat the first one hated her...LOL...things are never easy at my house.Jannes From: Lynda Wilson To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Mon, May 30, 2011 9:51:16 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV in Bone Marrow not in Blood I agree with this comment. I will also add that since stress can induce the virus out of dormancy, do you think it would be stressful to her to meet your other kitties? It's hard to determine exactly what type of stress. This IS just a thought. I would think that most cats like to be together and find it comforting since they are such social animals. I once had a "tortie" (tortoise shell) cat and she stressed very easily. I heard it was her breed. She went into diabetes when I got a dachshund puppy for our family. She later went into remission. Then I got another dachshund puppy for our other dachshund as a playmate. She then went into diabetes again. Then I knew it was all stress related. We did have another cat and when he passed away, she was the happiest cat I had ever seen. She was one of those that needed to be the "only" cat. Too bad I did not know that when I saved her at 5 weeks old. If they only came with instructions!! (by the way, I had her 17 1/2 yrs. I lost her last June to a stroke that left her unable to walk). - Original Message - From: To: "sharon Fazio" ; Sent: Monday, May 30, 2011 6:58 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV in Bone Marrow not in Blood > From my reading and limited understanding I will answer your questions. Just >don't take it as the gospel. > > If the virus is in the bone marrow but not the blood it's referred to as > being >dormant. Your kitty cannot pass it to other kitties as long as it stays >dormant. One book I read did say that many times cats that contract the virus >but put it into dormancy will actually be able to extinguish the virus at some >point. So it is possible that your kitty could one day be free of it >totally. >If she is not able to completely extinguish the virus it is definitely >possible >that it never gets into her blood or white blood cells. The reading made it >seem like as long as the virus stays dormant then it should never cause >problems. However, it can turn viremic which means it gets into her blood. >Sometimes stress and other illnesses can activate the virus. But, whether it >causes any problems at that point is a coin toss. I've heard of cats living >into their mid to late teens even with the active virus so who knows. It's >so >hard to predict how each cat's immune system will deal with the > virus. > > You are very lucky that even though she contracted the virus as a kitten that >she was able to put it into dormancy. Many kittens that get it will die >young. >Maybe she will be one of those that will eventually get rid of the virus >completely since her immune system was stronger than most kittens. > > So all that just to say who the heck knows what will happen. It's so >unpredictable. You had the IFA test done too didn't you? > > As far as the interferon goes, I have a friend who believes in it and gives > it >to her FIV and FeLV kitties every day and has for years. She gets it from a >pharmacy that compounds it and puts it into a chicken flavored liquid that she >gives to them. I don't know if you need it or not if your cat has put the >virus >into dormancy but I wouldn't think it would hurt her to take it. I think it >is >just some kind of super charged immune system booster. Not sure though. > > sent from my AT&T Smartphone by HTC > > - Reply message - > From: "sharon Fazio" > Date: Sat, May 28, 2011 8:29 am > Subject: [Felvtalk] FeLV in Bone Marrow not in Blood > To: > > My 1 year kitten was diagnosed with FeLV back in Oct. She has never tested >positive with either blood test, only with bone marrow aspiration after she >got >real sick at 20 weeks of age. As of now she is showing no signs of FeLV, >just >a low normal blood test. To look at her you would and the way she plays you >would not even know she had FeLV. > > Questions are: Can a cat clear FeLV from the bone marrow? Could FeLV just > stay >in the bone marrow and never go to her blood? Can a cat expect to live a long >life a
Re: [Felvtalk] Your Opinion would be GREATLY appreciated
Natalie, I have been wondering so many things. In the beginning I doubted that Amber would be able to fight off the virus in the pitiful condition she was in. I was surprised when she tested negative! I also read that sometimes they can test negative by IFA but the viurs could still be just laying wait ready to reappear in the future. Sometimes I think you can read too much. Who knows what to believe!! Amber is so full of enery and looks really good. She still weights only 6.8 lbs. It is had to believe she has only gained an eight of a lb in three months but her ribs don't show anymore. I also find it puzzling that she has not come in heat yet. She may have already been spayed?? The vet guesses her to be approx 1 year old. I know some folks mix their cats and don't worry but I can't help being concerned about it. Jannes From: Natalie To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sun, May 29, 2011 4:19:23 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Your Opinion would be GREATLY appreciated I wonder if extreme stress, bad diet, etc. can cause false positives. In the first year (1992)that I trapped cats for our rescue group, an adult cat tested positive for FeLV. Three months later, she was negative! -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Jannes Taylor Sent: Saturday, May 28, 2011 12:06 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Your Opinion would be GREATLY appreciated I am so releived she tested negative. I think maybe I have read too much sometimes. All the upstairs cats have been vaccinated against felv so that helps even though I know it is not 100&. I am going to think about this today and view all the opinions. Thanks! Jannes From: Cindy McHugh To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sat, May 28, 2011 10:33:15 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Your Opinion would be GREATLY appreciated Wow, that's great news that she's tested negative. I'm so happy for you. For my own peace of mind, I would insist on an IFA test before integrating her into my household. If your vet won't do it, there's probably another vet around who will. Cindy - Original Message - From: "Jannes Taylor" To: Sent: Saturday, May 28, 2011 10:59 AM Subject: [Felvtalk] Your Opinion would be GREATLY appreciated Hello to all, Three months ago I rescued a cat that I found out in the field next to our house starving to death and did not energy to even purr or play. She tested positive for felv. Three months later this kitty who I named Amber is like a different cat. She is rotten, well fed, and full of energy. As some of you my recall, my husband built her her own palace to live in which is in our basement. I have three healthy cats upstaris and am not willinig to risk exposing them to a felv cat. I took Amber back to the vet this morning and the Elisa test was negative! I asked the vet about getting her the IFA test and he did not even know what it was! I had printed off information re the test and he did read it. However, he thinks she does not need the IFA test since she tested negative. Should I go ahead and bring Amber upstaris with the rest of the gang or still insist on the IFA test?? Jannes ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Your Opinion would be GREATLY appreciated
Did the IFA turn out to be positive? Jannes From: Bonnie Hogue To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sat, May 28, 2011 12:34:08 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Your Opinion would be GREATLY appreciated Congratulations on Amber's recovery and well-being! When I was in this situation with my mom's cat, Lucky, I waited until the IFA was done, just for peace of mind. I think it took about a week for them to get the result. ~B. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Jannes Taylor Sent: Saturday, May 28, 2011 7:59 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Your Opinion would be GREATLY appreciated Hello to all, Three months ago I rescued a cat that I found out in the field next to our house starving to death and did not energy to even purr or play. She tested positive for felv. Three months later this kitty who I named Amber is like a different cat. She is rotten, well fed, and full of energy. As some of you my recall, my husband built her her own palace to live in which is in our basement. I have three healthy cats upstaris and am not willinig to risk exposing them to a felv cat. I took Amber back to the vet this morning and the Elisa test was negative! I asked the vet about getting her the IFA test and he did not even know what it was! I had printed off information re the test and he did read it. However, he thinks she does not need the IFA test since she tested negative. Should I go ahead and bring Amber upstaris with the rest of the gang or still insist on the IFA test?? Jannes ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Your Opinion would be GREATLY appreciated
I am so releived she tested negative. I think maybe I have read too much sometimes. All the upstairs cats have been vaccinated against felv so that helps even though I know it is not 100&. I am going to think about this today and view all the opinions. Thanks! Jannes From: Cindy McHugh To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sat, May 28, 2011 10:33:15 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Your Opinion would be GREATLY appreciated Wow, that's great news that she's tested negative. I'm so happy for you. For my own peace of mind, I would insist on an IFA test before integrating her into my household. If your vet won't do it, there's probably another vet around who will. Cindy - Original Message - From: "Jannes Taylor" To: Sent: Saturday, May 28, 2011 10:59 AM Subject: [Felvtalk] Your Opinion would be GREATLY appreciated Hello to all, Three months ago I rescued a cat that I found out in the field next to our house starving to death and did not energy to even purr or play. She tested positive for felv. Three months later this kitty who I named Amber is like a different cat. She is rotten, well fed, and full of energy. As some of you my recall, my husband built her her own palace to live in which is in our basement. I have three healthy cats upstaris and am not willinig to risk exposing them to a felv cat. I took Amber back to the vet this morning and the Elisa test was negative! I asked the vet about getting her the IFA test and he did not even know what it was! I had printed off information re the test and he did read it. However, he thinks she does not need the IFA test since she tested negative. Should I go ahead and bring Amber upstaris with the rest of the gang or still insist on the IFA test?? Jannes ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Your Opinion would be GREATLY appreciated
Hello to all, Three months ago I rescued a cat that I found out in the field next to our house starving to death and did not energy to even purr or play. She tested positive for felv. Three months later this kitty who I named Amber is like a different cat. She is rotten, well fed, and full of energy. As some of you my recall, my husband built her her own palace to live in which is in our basement. I have three healthy cats upstaris and am not willinig to risk exposing them to a felv cat. I took Amber back to the vet this morning and the Elisa test was negative! I asked the vet about getting her the IFA test and he did not even know what it was! I had printed off information re the test and he did read it. However, he thinks she does not need the IFA test since she tested negative. Should I go ahead and bring Amber upstaris with the rest of the gang or still insist on the IFA test?? Jannes ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Mach Catmacho Please add to the CLS :(
So sorry to hear this. He was very lucky to have you and you him even for a short time. Jannes From: Lynda Wilson To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Mon, May 9, 2011 8:47:13 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Mach Catmacho Please add to the CLS :( Oh, Sherry, I'm so sorry to hear this news!! So glad he felt all the love that you could possibly give. You have a big heart! - Original Message - From: "Sherry DeHaan" To: "Felvtalk" Sent: Saturday, May 07, 2011 7:33 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] Mach Catmacho Please add to the CLS :( > This sweet buff boy left us today,Dr. Jen said he had kidney cancer.Good >boy,happy to of had the chance to love him. Sids kids are the best.. > Sherry > > > "We who choose to surround ourselves with lives more temporary > than our own, > Live within a fragile circle,easily and often breached. > Unable to accept its awful gaps. > We still would have it no other way" > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Jakob Please ad to the CLS :(
I am so sorry for your loss. He was so lucky he had you in his life. Jannes From: Sherry DeHaan To: Felvtalk Sent: Sat, April 23, 2011 9:30:22 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] Jakob Please ad to the CLS :( We lost our sweet Sids kid Jakob a beautiful orange boy who always had a worried look on his face. We will miss you but was happy for the short time we had to love you. Sherry "We who choose to surround ourselves with lives more temporary than our own, Live within a fragile circle,easily and often breached. Unable to accept its awful gaps. We still would have it no other way" ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Kids vs kittens
LOL. We must be kindred spirits. I always say that I feel like I gave birth to Moses my 17 month old kitty I raised since he was two weeks old. Jannes From: Natalie To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sun, April 24, 2011 11:26:26 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Kids vs kittens When I see a kittens, I go gagawhen people ooh and aah over a baby, all I can manage: "Oh, it's a baby!" I must say, there are some cute babies, but most are not..I even had a dream years and years ago that I was having kittens - call me nuts! -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Bonnie Hogue Sent: Monday, April 25, 2011 12:01 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Kids vs kittens Ditto that! -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lorrie Sent: Sunday, April 24, 2011 4:12 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Kids vs kittens > On 04-23, Jannes Taylor wrote: I honestly can look at babies and they > don't thrill me like a little kitten would. LOL I'm the same way. I much prefer kittens. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Special Thanks!
I honestly can look at babies and they don't thrill me like a little kitten would. LOL I have been cat crazy most of my life. There were a few years I was catless.. I was busy raising my two boys and we lived on a main highway. My husband at the time, was not going to keep any animals in the house. I tried having outdoor cats, but you can guess what happened to them. Anyway, looks like I've come full circle; I am back to no kids, just cats which is probably what I should have done to start with...but that is another storyLIve and learn I guess. Jannes From: Lynda Wilson To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sat, April 23, 2011 12:09:49 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Special Thanks! Well said, Lorrie...we are their voice! I cannot be who I am without at least a feline in my house. My husband totally agrees with that. It's who I am.It's who "we" are! Have a happy Easter everyone! Lynda - Original Message - From: "Lorrie" To: Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2011 8:56 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Special Thanks! Hi Jannes, You brought up an interesting topic. My 4 female cats all prefer my husband, but the 11 males love me best. Yes, I have that many cats! We both adore them, and ours were all rescued. Our lives are devoted entirely to our cats, and as you mentioned some people think we're nuts to spend so much time and money on them, but rescuing cats seems to be our calling in life. Lorrie in WV On 04-22, Jannes Taylor wrote: > One more thing about my husband..our two female house cats like him > more than they do me. If they can pick a lap it will be his. Also, > one of them sleeps beside him on his side of the bed. My tom cat > sleeps beside me. I am his favorite. My husband's kids from > a previous marriage remind him how he would not let them sleep with > him when they were growning up. LOL...I guess he does have "kitty > love" pretty bad. He did not have it before he met me though. He > got me my first cat in 2005 from the animal shelter. My youngest > son was getting ready to leave the nest and he thought a cat would > be good therapy for me. Now four cats later...I don't know what I > would do without my babies and he is hooked too. > > Jannes > > ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Special Thanks!
You will enjoy the porch. Great idea. All of my cats are rescue cats. We say they won the lottery. I would not mind trading places with them. LOL I raised my tom cat on a bottle when he was two weeks old. He thinks I am his Mama. LOLJannes From: MaiMaiPG To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Fri, April 22, 2011 6:26:23 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Special Thanks! The love of a feral/abandoned cat is even greater. It is freely given, never earned. On Apr 22, 2011, at 5:50 PM, Katy Doyle wrote: > The love of a cat is special, I would do anything for babies! > > I'm planning on screening in my covered porch so the cats can sit out there >with me :-) > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Apr 22, 2011, at 6:28 PM, Jannes Taylor wrote: > >> I just want to let everyone know that I am so glad I am not the only one in >the >> world who has a passion for cats. I love all animals of course, but cats >> have >a >> special place in my heart. NONE of my friends or family members are >interested >> in my cat stories. I was telling my mother-in-law about Amber this >> afternoon. >I >> don't know why I even bothered. She is not really an animal lover at all. I >>know >> she thinks I am wacko. LOL >> This is a great place for information and understanding. I am so glad I found >> this site! Things happen for a reason and it is nice to know I am not alone. >Of >> course my hubby is with me regarding the cats, but he is the only one I can >> think of. He is not quite as cat crazy as I am, but close. LOL. God Bless >> all >>of >> you who go the extra mile. You are my heroes. >> Jannes >> ___ >> Felvtalk mailing list >> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Special Thanks!
One more thing about my husband..our two female house cats like him more than they do me. If they can pick a lap it will be his. Also, one of them sleeps beside him on his side of the bed. My tom cat sleeps beside me. I am his favorite. My husband's kids from a previous marriage remind him how he would not let them sleep with him when they were growning up. LOL...I guess he does have "kitty love" pretty bad. He did not have it before he met me though. He got me my first cat in 2005 from the animal shelter. My youngest son was getting ready to leave the nest and he thought a cat would be good therapy for me. Now four cats later...I don't know what I would do without my babies and he is hooked too. Jannes From: Lynda Wilson To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Fri, April 22, 2011 6:23:15 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Special Thanks! Jannes, your husband is on his way! Look at what he has already done. I bet he likes Amber more than you realize. I'm glad I found this site as well. It's great to communicate with a bunch of people that can relate and have the same concerns. We are not nut jobs after all! LOL! Everyone on this chat has been awesome! Thanks for all your kind words and encouragement. Lynda - Original Message - From: "Jannes Taylor" To: Sent: Friday, April 22, 2011 5:28 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] Special Thanks! I just want to let everyone know that I am so glad I am not the only one in the world who has a passion for cats. I love all animals of course, but cats have a special place in my heart. NONE of my friends or family members are interested in my cat stories. I was telling my mother-in-law about Amber this afternoon. I don't know why I even bothered. She is not really an animal lover at all. I know she thinks I am wacko. LOL This is a great place for information and understanding. I am so glad I found this site! Things happen for a reason and it is nice to know I am not alone. Of course my hubby is with me regarding the cats, but he is the only one I can think of. He is not quite as cat crazy as I am, but close. LOL. God Bless all of you who go the extra mile. You are my heroes. Jannes ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Special Thanks!
I just want to let everyone know that I am so glad I am not the only one in the world who has a passion for cats. I love all animals of course, but cats have a special place in my heart. NONE of my friends or family members are interested in my cat stories. I was telling my mother-in-law about Amber this afternoon. I don't know why I even bothered. She is not really an animal lover at all. I know she thinks I am wacko. LOL This is a great place for information and understanding. I am so glad I found this site! Things happen for a reason and it is nice to know I am not alone. Of course my hubby is with me regarding the cats, but he is the only one I can think of. He is not quite as cat crazy as I am, but close. LOL. God Bless all of you who go the extra mile. You are my heroes. Jannes ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Amber's Kitty Palace
What a sweet story! I know poor Amber does not get enough attention. Once I know for certain either way, I will give it more serious consideration. If by some miracle she tests negative, she will have three cats to contend with! Jannes From: Natalie To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thu, April 21, 2011 8:51:52 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Amber's Kitty Palace That's what we did - we had Eliot for about 2 years - he was so lonely. I tried finding a home for him with someone who already had a FeLV cat - to no avail. I started looking around and finally found one cat in NJ and another in PA (never heard from the person who owned that one - and he apparently didn’t even live inside, he was in a shed!) - so, Eliot got his friend Mr. Tux from NJ and they became friends overnight! They really like each other - sleep together, cuddleThat little "condo" looks big enough for two cats - I think it's a great idea to get a roommateyou would introduce the roommate in a cage abutting this condo palace for a few dayand see how it goes. Natalie -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of TANYA NOE Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 3:50 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Amber's Kitty Palace Forgive me if this has already been said I haven't had time to read all the posts to this thread. The kitty palace is great! I don't know that I could have built something so nice. Have you thought about getting her a buddy? There are so many FeLV kitties in need of a home and she may get lonely. We kept ours separate initially by building a door to cover the stairway from 1st floor to the 2nd floor. We tried to "share" our time equally, but our little Maggie still was so very lonely. Now we have been a mixed family for 2.5 years. Just a thought! Tanya --- On Tue, 4/19/11, Maureen Olvey wrote: > From: Maureen Olvey > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Amber's Kitty Palace > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Date: Tuesday, April 19, 2011, 2:38 AM > > He did awesome. That's quite the palace for > her. I can tell you guys put a lot of thought into how > you set it up also. You two are quite the pair. > Amber is so lucky to have stumbled across you and your > wonderful husband. > > “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces > results that are profitable to the human race or > doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon unconsenting > animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me > sufficient justification of the enmity without looking > further.” – Mark Twain > > > > > Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2011 16:19:26 -0700 > > From: jannestay...@yahoo.com > > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Amber's Kitty Palace > > > > Luckily, I have a soft hearted hubby who spent many > hours working on this. He is > > not a carpenter by any means, but did pretty good for > a rookie. > > Jannes > > > > > > > > > > > > From: Bonnie Hogue > > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > Sent: Sun, April 17, 2011 1:40:46 PM > > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Amber's Kitty Palace > > > > Wow, nice little apartment she's got there! > She's a real cutie, too. Looks > > a bit like my cat, Miya-Chan. She looks good > & healthy too. How nice of > > you to do this for her! > > ~B. > > > > -Original Message- > > From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org > > [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] > On Behalf Of > > jannestay...@yahoo.com > > Sent: Sunday, April 17, 2011 10:04 AM > > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > Subject: [Felvtalk] Amber's Kitty Palace > > > > > > QueenJMT > > http://s1113.photobucket.com/albums/k518/QueenJMT/?track=share_email_album_v > > iew_click > > I wanted share something on Photobucket with you! > > > > If you are having problems viewing this email, copy > and paste the following > > into your browser: > > http://s1113.photobucket.com/albums/k518/QueenJMT/?showNotificationLB=1&trac > > k=share_email_album_view_click > > > > > > Photobucket.com - http://photobucket.com Join the biggest > image and video > > sharing service in the world. > > ___ > > Felvtalk mailing list > > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > > > > ___ > > Felvtalk mailing list > > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > ___ > > Felvtalk mailing list > > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >
Re: [Felvtalk] Amber's Kitty Palace
Thank you. I will pass along the complement to him. :) Jannes From: "dlg...@windstream.net" To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wed, April 20, 2011 12:01:10 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Amber's Kitty Palace Your husband is a "rookie"? He should go into business making palaces. Maureen Olvey wrote: > > He did awesome. That's quite the palace for her. I can tell you guys put a >lot of thought into how you set it up also. You two are quite the pair. >Amber >is so lucky to have stumbled across you and your wonderful husband. > > “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are >profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon >unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me >sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain > > > > > Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2011 16:19:26 -0700 > > From: jannestay...@yahoo.com > > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Amber's Kitty Palace > > > > Luckily, I have a soft hearted hubby who spent many hours working on this. > > He >is > > > not a carpenter by any means, but did pretty good for a rookie. > > Jannes > > > > > > > > > > > > From: Bonnie Hogue > > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > Sent: Sun, April 17, 2011 1:40:46 PM > > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Amber's Kitty Palace > > > > Wow, nice little apartment she's got there! She's a real cutie, too. Looks > > a bit like my cat, Miya-Chan. She looks good & healthy too. How nice of > > you to do this for her! > > ~B. > > > > -Original Message- > > From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org > > [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of > > jannestay...@yahoo.com > > Sent: Sunday, April 17, 2011 10:04 AM > > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > Subject: [Felvtalk] Amber's Kitty Palace > > > > > > QueenJMT > > http://s1113.photobucket.com/albums/k518/QueenJMT/?track=share_email_album_v > > iew_click > > I wanted share something on Photobucket with you! > > > > If you are having problems viewing this email, copy and paste the following > > into your browser: > > http://s1113.photobucket.com/albums/k518/QueenJMT/?showNotificationLB=1&trac > > k=share_email_album_view_click > > > > > > Photobucket.com - http://photobucket.com Join the biggest image and video > > sharing service in the world. > > ___ > > Felvtalk mailing list > > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > > > > ___ > > Felvtalk mailing list > > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > ___ > > Felvtalk mailing list > > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Amber's kitty palace
Our poor little babies. All of my animals are rescue situations. They would sure have stories to tell if they could talk! Jannes From: "dlg...@windstream.net" To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tue, April 19, 2011 11:59:19 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Amber's kitty palace Amber sounds like my Lil Bit. She spends all day in my bedroom on the bed coming down only to use her box and drink from her wate bowl in the shower. I tried taking her outide and she clung to me and would not get down. She was shaking so that I took her back inside. I got her from Pals (no kill shelter) at the age of 10. Before that se belonged to a pet sitter (who had 23 cats). She had a large chain link fenced area for her cats. I know she took good care of her babies but what happened to Lil Bit before that heaven only knows. Like you say, I wish they could talk, then maybe we could help them overcome their fears. Natalie wrote: > Now it really is ideal - you cannot imagine how much difference this has > made in our garage for the cat condos...we started this years ago and have > had no URIs at all since then, unless a sick cat comes in! Those lights > truly are amazing! > > -Original Message- > From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org > [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Jannes Taylor > Sent: Monday, April 18, 2011 10:58 AM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Amber's kitty palace > > You are going to love this! I forgot to mention that we put a full spectrum > light inside the palace. Look closely at the photos. It shows up in one of > them. > My hubby won't leave the basement lit up all day, but we leave the lights on > in > the palace. > > Jannes > > > > > > From: Natalie > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Sent: Mon, April 18, 2011 9:40:49 AM > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Amber's kitty palace > > If you could get some full-spectrum lights in the basement, it would be even > more ideal! > Lucky girl! > > -----Original Message- > From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org > [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Jannes Taylor > Sent: Sunday, April 17, 2011 7:14 PM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Amber's kitty palace > > It is in the basement. I let her roam free in the basement every chance I > get. > Even though the palace is 8 feet long, 4 feet wide, and six feet tall, she > still > likes to get out of it for a while. I can roll it outside but she doesn't > really > like that. It seems to make her nervous when she is outdoors. Poor thing, I > wish > she could talk so I could know her story! She is too tame and sweet from the > > beginning to be a feral cat. Somebody must have just decided they did not > want > her anymore and basically threw her away. > I the photos I had rolled it close to the basment garage door opening so she > > could see the outdoors. It is when I roll it completely outside that she > gets > the most nervous. Jannes > > > > > > > From: Pam Norman > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Sent: Sun, April 17, 2011 1:50:56 PM > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Amber's kitty palace > > Jannes, > > Is there access from the house or do you take her out there? > > Pam > > On 4/17/2011 11:15 AM, Jannes Taylor wrote: > > Hello Everyone, > > Please dlick on this link to see photos of Amber's new kitty palace. > style="width:480px;text-align:right;"> > src="http://static.pbsrc.com/flash/rss_slideshow.swf"; > > flashvars="rssFeed=http%3A%2F%2Ffeed1113.photobucket.com% > > Amber is the felv positive kitty we rescued 7 weeks ago. She was on > death's > >door > > just absolutely starving and did not look well. She had no energy to even > play. > > After 7 weeks of TLC and good food it is hard for me to believe she has > any > > issues at all. I have three healthy cats upstairs and I am not willing to > > take > > the chance of exposing them to the virus even though they have been > vaccinated > > against felv. > > I am so glad I did not have Amber euthanized! The vet was leaning in that > > direction. God bless you all for all that you do for our sweet feline > friends. > > Jannes > > ___ > > Felvtalk mailing list > > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > ___
Re: [Felvtalk] Amber's Kitty Palace
Please try this link for the photos of Amber's kitty palace. http://s1113.photobucket.com/albums/k518/QueenJMT/?track=share_email_album_view_click Jannes From: MaiMaiPG To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tue, April 19, 2011 4:07:15 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Amber's Kitty Palace I've never been able to pull up the photos. On Apr 19, 2011, at 3:10 PM, Jannes Taylor wrote: > Yes, I did think about getting her a buddy but I am having her retested in > June. Supposedly she is over a year old. Everyone keeps talking about an adult > cat being able to fight off the virus. I just hope the condition she was in >when > I found her did not keep her from doing so. She was starving and so skinny. Her > gums were pale as well. I will do the IFA test too in June. > My heart goes out to all the Felv kitties. > > I do have to say that this experience has shown me how many wonderful caring > people there are out in this world who give so much of themselves to help our > animal population. > > I must note that my husband is NOT a carpenter so building the kitty palace was > not an easy endeavour for him. If may not be perfect in the physical sense but > it is pur-fect for little Amber. :) > Jannes > > > > > > From: TANYA NOE > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Sent: Tue, April 19, 2011 2:50:10 PM > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Amber's Kitty Palace > > Forgive me if this has already been said I haven't had time to read all the > posts to this thread. The kitty palace is great! I don't know that I could have > built something so nice. Have you thought about getting her a buddy? There are > so many FeLV kitties in need of a home and she may get lonely. We kept ours > separate initially by building a door to cover the stairway from 1st floor to > the 2nd floor. We tried to "share" our time equally, but our little Maggie >still > was so very lonely. Now we have been a mixed family for 2.5 years. Just a > thought! > Tanya > > --- On Tue, 4/19/11, Maureen Olvey wrote: > >> From: Maureen Olvey >> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Amber's Kitty Palace >> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >> Date: Tuesday, April 19, 2011, 2:38 AM >> >> He did awesome. That's quite the palace for >> her. I can tell you guys put a lot of thought into how >> you set it up also. You two are quite the pair. >> Amber is so lucky to have stumbled across you and your >> wonderful husband. >> >> “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces >> results that are profitable to the human race or >> doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon unconsenting >> animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me >> sufficient justification of the enmity without looking >> further.” – Mark Twain >> >> >> >>> Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2011 16:19:26 -0700 >>> From: jannestay...@yahoo.com >>> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Amber's Kitty Palace >>> >>> Luckily, I have a soft hearted hubby who spent many >> hours working on this. He is >>> not a carpenter by any means, but did pretty good for >> a rookie. >>> Jannes >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> From: Bonnie Hogue >>> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >>> Sent: Sun, April 17, 2011 1:40:46 PM >>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Amber's Kitty Palace >>> >>> Wow, nice little apartment she's got there! >> She's a real cutie, too. Looks >>> a bit like my cat, Miya-Chan. She looks good >> & healthy too. How nice of >>> you to do this for her! >>> ~B. >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org >>> [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] >> On Behalf Of >>> jannestay...@yahoo.com >>> Sent: Sunday, April 17, 2011 10:04 AM >>> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >>> Subject: [Felvtalk] Amber's Kitty Palace >>> >>> >>> QueenJMT >>> http://s1113.photobucket.com/albums/k518/QueenJMT/?track=share_email_album_v >>> iew_click >>> I wanted share something on Photobucket with you! >>> >>> If you are having problems viewing this email, copy >> and paste the following >>> into your browser: >>> http://s1113.photobucket.com/albums/k518/QueenJMT/?showNotificationLB=1&trac >>> k=share_email_album_view_click >>
Re: [Felvtalk] Amber's Kitty Palace
Yes, I did think about getting her a buddy but I am having her retested in June. Supposedly she is over a year old. Everyone keeps talking about an adult cat being able to fight off the virus. I just hope the condition she was in when I found her did not keep her from doing so. She was starving and so skinny. Her gums were pale as well. I will do the IFA test too in June. My heart goes out to all the Felv kitties. I do have to say that this experience has shown me how many wonderful caring people there are out in this world who give so much of themselves to help our animal population. I must note that my husband is NOT a carpenter so building the kitty palace was not an easy endeavour for him. If may not be perfect in the physical sense but it is pur-fect for little Amber. :) Jannes From: TANYA NOE To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tue, April 19, 2011 2:50:10 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Amber's Kitty Palace Forgive me if this has already been said I haven't had time to read all the posts to this thread. The kitty palace is great! I don't know that I could have built something so nice. Have you thought about getting her a buddy? There are so many FeLV kitties in need of a home and she may get lonely. We kept ours separate initially by building a door to cover the stairway from 1st floor to the 2nd floor. We tried to "share" our time equally, but our little Maggie still was so very lonely. Now we have been a mixed family for 2.5 years. Just a thought! Tanya --- On Tue, 4/19/11, Maureen Olvey wrote: > From: Maureen Olvey > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Amber's Kitty Palace > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Date: Tuesday, April 19, 2011, 2:38 AM > > He did awesome. That's quite the palace for > her. I can tell you guys put a lot of thought into how > you set it up also. You two are quite the pair. > Amber is so lucky to have stumbled across you and your > wonderful husband. > > “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces > results that are profitable to the human race or > doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon unconsenting > animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me > sufficient justification of the enmity without looking > further.” – Mark Twain > > > > > Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2011 16:19:26 -0700 > > From: jannestay...@yahoo.com > > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Amber's Kitty Palace > > > > Luckily, I have a soft hearted hubby who spent many > hours working on this. He is > > not a carpenter by any means, but did pretty good for > a rookie. > > Jannes > > > > > > > > > > > > From: Bonnie Hogue > > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > Sent: Sun, April 17, 2011 1:40:46 PM > > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Amber's Kitty Palace > > > > Wow, nice little apartment she's got there! > She's a real cutie, too. Looks > > a bit like my cat, Miya-Chan. She looks good > & healthy too. How nice of > > you to do this for her! > > ~B. > > > > -Original Message- > > From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org > > [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] > On Behalf Of > > jannestay...@yahoo.com > > Sent: Sunday, April 17, 2011 10:04 AM > > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > Subject: [Felvtalk] Amber's Kitty Palace > > > > > > QueenJMT > > http://s1113.photobucket.com/albums/k518/QueenJMT/?track=share_email_album_v > > iew_click > > I wanted share something on Photobucket with you! > > > > If you are having problems viewing this email, copy > and paste the following > > into your browser: > > http://s1113.photobucket.com/albums/k518/QueenJMT/?showNotificationLB=1&trac > > k=share_email_album_view_click > > > > > > Photobucket.com - http://photobucket.com Join the biggest > image and video > > sharing service in the world. > > ___ > > Felvtalk mailing list > > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > > > > ___ > > Felvtalk mailing list > > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > ___ > > Felvtalk mailing list > > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/f
Re: [Felvtalk] Amber's Kitty Palace
Thank you. We are glad we could do something for her. I don't think I will ever forget how pitiful she was when we found her. Jannes From: Maureen Olvey To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tue, April 19, 2011 1:38:50 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Amber's Kitty Palace He did awesome. That's quite the palace for her. I can tell you guys put a lot of thought into how you set it up also. You two are quite the pair. Amber is so lucky to have stumbled across you and your wonderful husband. “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain > Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2011 16:19:26 -0700 > From: jannestay...@yahoo.com > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Amber's Kitty Palace > > Luckily, I have a soft hearted hubby who spent many hours working on this. He >is > > not a carpenter by any means, but did pretty good for a rookie. > Jannes > > > > > > From: Bonnie Hogue > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Sent: Sun, April 17, 2011 1:40:46 PM > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Amber's Kitty Palace > > Wow, nice little apartment she's got there! She's a real cutie, too. Looks > a bit like my cat, Miya-Chan. She looks good & healthy too. How nice of > you to do this for her! > ~B. > > -Original Message- > From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org > [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of > jannestay...@yahoo.com > Sent: Sunday, April 17, 2011 10:04 AM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: [Felvtalk] Amber's Kitty Palace > > > QueenJMT > http://s1113.photobucket.com/albums/k518/QueenJMT/?track=share_email_album_v > iew_click > I wanted share something on Photobucket with you! > > If you are having problems viewing this email, copy and paste the following > into your browser: > http://s1113.photobucket.com/albums/k518/QueenJMT/?showNotificationLB=1&trac > k=share_email_album_view_click > > > Photobucket.com - http://photobucket.com Join the biggest image and video > sharing service in the world. > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Amber's kitty palace
You are going to love this! I forgot to mention that we put a full spectrum light inside the palace. Look closely at the photos. It shows up in one of them. My hubby won't leave the basement lit up all day, but we leave the lights on in the palace. Jannes From: Natalie To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Mon, April 18, 2011 9:40:49 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Amber's kitty palace If you could get some full-spectrum lights in the basement, it would be even more ideal! Lucky girl! -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Jannes Taylor Sent: Sunday, April 17, 2011 7:14 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Amber's kitty palace It is in the basement. I let her roam free in the basement every chance I get. Even though the palace is 8 feet long, 4 feet wide, and six feet tall, she still likes to get out of it for a while. I can roll it outside but she doesn't really like that. It seems to make her nervous when she is outdoors. Poor thing, I wish she could talk so I could know her story! She is too tame and sweet from the beginning to be a feral cat. Somebody must have just decided they did not want her anymore and basically threw her away. I the photos I had rolled it close to the basment garage door opening so she could see the outdoors. It is when I roll it completely outside that she gets the most nervous. Jannes From: Pam Norman To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sun, April 17, 2011 1:50:56 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Amber's kitty palace Jannes, Is there access from the house or do you take her out there? Pam On 4/17/2011 11:15 AM, Jannes Taylor wrote: > Hello Everyone, > Please dlick on this link to see photos of Amber's new kitty palace. style="width:480px;text-align:right;"> src="http://static.pbsrc.com/flash/rss_slideshow.swf"; > flashvars="rssFeed=http%3A%2F%2Ffeed1113.photobucket.com% > Amber is the felv positive kitty we rescued 7 weeks ago. She was on death's >door > just absolutely starving and did not look well. She had no energy to even play. > After 7 weeks of TLC and good food it is hard for me to believe she has any > issues at all. I have three healthy cats upstairs and I am not willing to take > the chance of exposing them to the virus even though they have been vaccinated > against felv. > I am so glad I did not have Amber euthanized! The vet was leaning in that > direction. God bless you all for all that you do for our sweet feline friends. > Jannes > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Amber's Kitty Palace
Samson is pretty patient with cats but Amber is a brave little thing. She has smacked him a few times just because she wanted to and one time he let her know he did not like it. Scared me and her both! I can't remember exactly what he did it happened so fast. I do remember that I screamed and she ran. LOL I try to spend as much time with Amber as I can. I go down in the basement first thing in the am to let her out and pet her for a while. I do the same thing in the afternoon. I work a full time job so I do the best I can. That is another reason it is frustrating not being able to have her upstairs. BTW, Amber only weighed 6 lbs on her first visit to the vet a week after I got her. I bet she would weigh 8 now. My two fat girls upstairs weigh 12 and 14 lbs. LOL. The vet says Amber is over a year old. Her teeth look worse than my six and seven year old cats. Lots of yellow tartar on them. One of her long teeth in the front is broken off some. She has not come in heat yet, so I still don't know if she has been spayed or not. I've had her seven weeks now. So many things I wonder about Amber my mystery cat.Jannes From: MaiMaiPG To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sun, April 17, 2011 6:55:08 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Amber's Kitty Palace You have to follow your heart. If you are ever ready to try a screen door--for your peace of mind--consider putting gauze or something like it over the door. If your are not at peace with itdon't. You are doing wonderfully and I bet the dog and cat wind up being very good friends. On Apr 17, 2011, at 6:39 PM, Jannes Taylor wrote: > I have heard that even hissing or spitting on each other could spread the > disease. This could penetrate through a screen door. I've done a lot of >reading > and just have to do what I feel is best. I know a lot of people mix, but I am > just too scared. > All of you guys are wonderful however you do it. What chance would they have > without you? God Bless! > Jannes > > > > > > From: MaiMaiPG > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Sent: Sun, April 17, 2011 6:35:34 PM > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Amber's Kitty Palace > > Have you considered a screen door between her and the other cats? I understand > the concernI brought Dixie (FeLV+) into a house with a FeLV- (Kitty). >Kitty > developed terminal cancer--no relationship to Dixie's presence and I let them > together. They defined their territories until it was time for Kitty to leave. > Dixie started going into the forbidden territory and comforting and learning > from Kitty. BOT: They could communicate but still be safe. > On Apr 17, 2011, at 6:19 PM, Jannes Taylor wrote: > >> Luckily, I have a soft hearted hubby who spent many hours working on this. He >> is >> not a carpenter by any means, but did pretty good for a rookie. >> Jannes >> >> >> >> >> >> From: Bonnie Hogue >> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >> Sent: Sun, April 17, 2011 1:40:46 PM >> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Amber's Kitty Palace >> >> Wow, nice little apartment she's got there! She's a real cutie, too. Looks >> a bit like my cat, Miya-Chan. She looks good & healthy too. How nice of >> you to do this for her! >> ~B. >> >> -Original Message- >> From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org >> [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of >> jannestay...@yahoo.com >> Sent: Sunday, April 17, 2011 10:04 AM >> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >> Subject: [Felvtalk] Amber's Kitty Palace >> >> >> QueenJMT >> http://s1113.photobucket.com/albums/k518/QueenJMT/?track=share_email_album_v >> iew_click >> I wanted share something on Photobucket with you! >> >> If you are having problems viewing this email, copy and paste the following >> into your browser: >> http://s1113.photobucket.com/albums/k518/QueenJMT/?showNotificationLB=1&trac >> k=share_email_album_view_click >> >> >> Photobucket.com - http://photobucket.com Join the biggest image and video >> sharing service in the world. >> ___ >> Felvtalk mailing list >> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org >> >> >> ___ >> Felvtalk mailing list >> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org >> __
Re: [Felvtalk] Amber's Kitty Palace
I have heard that even hissing or spitting on each other could spread the disease. This could penetrate through a screen door. I've done a lot of reading and just have to do what I feel is best. I know a lot of people mix, but I am just too scared. All of you guys are wonderful however you do it. What chance would they have without you? God Bless! Jannes From: MaiMaiPG To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sun, April 17, 2011 6:35:34 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Amber's Kitty Palace Have you considered a screen door between her and the other cats? I understand the concernI brought Dixie (FeLV+) into a house with a FeLV- (Kitty). Kitty developed terminal cancer--no relationship to Dixie's presence and I let them together. They defined their territories until it was time for Kitty to leave. Dixie started going into the forbidden territory and comforting and learning from Kitty. BOT: They could communicate but still be safe. On Apr 17, 2011, at 6:19 PM, Jannes Taylor wrote: > Luckily, I have a soft hearted hubby who spent many hours working on this. He >is > not a carpenter by any means, but did pretty good for a rookie. > Jannes > > > > > > From: Bonnie Hogue > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Sent: Sun, April 17, 2011 1:40:46 PM > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Amber's Kitty Palace > > Wow, nice little apartment she's got there! She's a real cutie, too. Looks > a bit like my cat, Miya-Chan. She looks good & healthy too. How nice of > you to do this for her! > ~B. > > -Original Message- > From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org > [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of > jannestay...@yahoo.com > Sent: Sunday, April 17, 2011 10:04 AM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: [Felvtalk] Amber's Kitty Palace > > > QueenJMT > http://s1113.photobucket.com/albums/k518/QueenJMT/?track=share_email_album_v > iew_click > I wanted share something on Photobucket with you! > > If you are having problems viewing this email, copy and paste the following > into your browser: > http://s1113.photobucket.com/albums/k518/QueenJMT/?showNotificationLB=1&trac > k=share_email_album_view_click > > > Photobucket.com - http://photobucket.com Join the biggest image and video > sharing service in the world. > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Amber's kitty palace
I should explain that we have a dog who stays in the basement as well. He has a flap in the regular door where he can come and go as he pleases. When I let Amber out, I have to shut the flap so he is either in or out for a while. When she is in the palace, I can leave the flap open. It has taken some adjustments for everyone, including my dog Samson. He is a country dog with lots of country smells so that is why he lives in the basement. LOL Jannes From: Pam Norman To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sun, April 17, 2011 1:50:56 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Amber's kitty palace Jannes, Is there access from the house or do you take her out there? Pam On 4/17/2011 11:15 AM, Jannes Taylor wrote: > Hello Everyone, > Please dlick on this link to see photos of Amber's new kitty palace. style="width:480px;text-align:right;"> src="http://static.pbsrc.com/flash/rss_slideshow.swf"; > flashvars="rssFeed=http%3A%2F%2Ffeed1113.photobucket.com% > Amber is the felv positive kitty we rescued 7 weeks ago. She was on death's >door > just absolutely starving and did not look well. She had no energy to even play. > After 7 weeks of TLC and good food it is hard for me to believe she has any > issues at all. I have three healthy cats upstairs and I am not willing to take > the chance of exposing them to the virus even though they have been vaccinated > against felv. > I am so glad I did not have Amber euthanized! The vet was leaning in that > direction. God bless you all for all that you do for our sweet feline friends. > Jannes > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Amber's Kitty Palace
Luckily, I have a soft hearted hubby who spent many hours working on this. He is not a carpenter by any means, but did pretty good for a rookie. Jannes From: Bonnie Hogue To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sun, April 17, 2011 1:40:46 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Amber's Kitty Palace Wow, nice little apartment she's got there! She's a real cutie, too. Looks a bit like my cat, Miya-Chan. She looks good & healthy too. How nice of you to do this for her! ~B. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of jannestay...@yahoo.com Sent: Sunday, April 17, 2011 10:04 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Amber's Kitty Palace QueenJMT http://s1113.photobucket.com/albums/k518/QueenJMT/?track=share_email_album_v iew_click I wanted share something on Photobucket with you! If you are having problems viewing this email, copy and paste the following into your browser: http://s1113.photobucket.com/albums/k518/QueenJMT/?showNotificationLB=1&trac k=share_email_album_view_click Photobucket.com - http://photobucket.com Join the biggest image and video sharing service in the world. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Amber's Kitty Palace
At first I tried to find her a home because I was so afraid of somehow exposing my other cats to her, but so far everything has worked out fine. I would not give her up now at all! I love my little Amber. One sad thing is when she sits at the top of the basement stairs and I find her there. I should have named her Cinderella. But, it is still a whole lot better than what could have happened to her. God sent her to me for a reason and I will do my best for her. Jannes From: Sara Kasteleyn To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sun, April 17, 2011 1:15:45 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Amber's Kitty Palace Wow! This is fabulous...and she is so beautiful. What a lovely little face! Thanks so much for sharing thisand for loving this precious little gal so much. Sara --Original Mail-- From: To: Sent: Sun, 17 Apr 2011 11:04:06 -0600 MDT Subject: [Felvtalk] Amber's Kitty Palace QueenJMT http://s1113.photobucket.com/albums/k518/QueenJMT/?track=share_email_album_view_click I wanted share something on Photobucket with you! If you are having problems viewing this email, copy and paste the following into your browser: http://s1113.photobucket.com/albums/k518/QueenJMT/?showNotificationLB=1&track=share_email_album_view_click Photobucket.com - http://photobucket.com Join the biggest image and video sharing service in the world. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Amber's kitty palace
It is in the basement. I let her roam free in the basement every chance I get. Even though the palace is 8 feet long, 4 feet wide, and six feet tall, she still likes to get out of it for a while. I can roll it outside but she doesn't really like that. It seems to make her nervous when she is outdoors. Poor thing, I wish she could talk so I could know her story! She is too tame and sweet from the beginning to be a feral cat. Somebody must have just decided they did not want her anymore and basically threw her away. I the photos I had rolled it close to the basment garage door opening so she could see the outdoors. It is when I roll it completely outside that she gets the most nervous. Jannes From: Pam Norman To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sun, April 17, 2011 1:50:56 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Amber's kitty palace Jannes, Is there access from the house or do you take her out there? Pam On 4/17/2011 11:15 AM, Jannes Taylor wrote: > Hello Everyone, > Please dlick on this link to see photos of Amber's new kitty palace. style="width:480px;text-align:right;"> src="http://static.pbsrc.com/flash/rss_slideshow.swf"; > flashvars="rssFeed=http%3A%2F%2Ffeed1113.photobucket.com% > Amber is the felv positive kitty we rescued 7 weeks ago. She was on death's >door > just absolutely starving and did not look well. She had no energy to even play. > After 7 weeks of TLC and good food it is hard for me to believe she has any > issues at all. I have three healthy cats upstairs and I am not willing to take > the chance of exposing them to the virus even though they have been vaccinated > against felv. > I am so glad I did not have Amber euthanized! The vet was leaning in that > direction. God bless you all for all that you do for our sweet feline friends. > Jannes > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Amber's kitty palace
Sorry, I don't think the link will work. I am in the process of trying something else. Jannes From: Jannes Taylor To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sun, April 17, 2011 11:15:43 AM Subject: [Felvtalk] Amber's kitty palace Hello Everyone, Please dlick on this link to see photos of Amber's new kitty palace. http://static.pbsrc.com/flash/rss_slideshow.swf"; flashvars="rssFeed=http%3A%2F%2Ffeed1113.photobucket.com% Amber is the felv positive kitty we rescued 7 weeks ago. She was on death's door just absolutely starving and did not look well. She had no energy to even play. After 7 weeks of TLC and good food it is hard for me to believe she has any issues at all. I have three healthy cats upstairs and I am not willing to take the chance of exposing them to the virus even though they have been vaccinated against felv. I am so glad I did not have Amber euthanized! The vet was leaning in that direction. God bless you all for all that you do for our sweet feline friends. Jannes ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Amber's kitty palace
Hello Everyone, Please dlick on this link to see photos of Amber's new kitty palace. http://static.pbsrc.com/flash/rss_slideshow.swf"; flashvars="rssFeed=http%3A%2F%2Ffeed1113.photobucket.com% Amber is the felv positive kitty we rescued 7 weeks ago. She was on death's door just absolutely starving and did not look well. She had no energy to even play. After 7 weeks of TLC and good food it is hard for me to believe she has any issues at all. I have three healthy cats upstairs and I am not willing to take the chance of exposing them to the virus even though they have been vaccinated against felv. I am so glad I did not have Amber euthanized! The vet was leaning in that direction. God bless you all for all that you do for our sweet feline friends. Jannes ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Husband has passed away..... :(
I am so sorry to hear about your husband. I am sure he is taking care of all the animals on the other side and is not suffering anymore Compassionate hearts live on... Jannes From: "POTT, BEVERLY" To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Mon, April 4, 2011 12:39:37 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Husband has passed away. :( Oh no!!! I’m so sorry to hear that, Terrie L I’m sure that Taz and all the rest are taking good care of him… Keeping you in our prayers. From: ter...@tazzys.org [mailto:ter...@tazzys.org] Sent: Saturday, April 02, 2011 11:27 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Husband has passed away. :( Thank you all for your kind words and love in this difficult time for me. It is hard on me since we have been together for many years. He had a genuine love for animals and supported me in everything I did in rescue. My husband passed away 4:30 in the morning on Thursday. He died peacefully in his sleep. I know he is longer in pain and sick is healthy again. He will be greeted by others that have went to the Rainbow Bridge especially by my Taz as he loved him too. TAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTS/SIAMESE & COLLIE RESCUE Sultan, WA. 98294 Terrie Mohr-Forker http://tazzys.org/ Non-Profit national rescue Dedicated to the welfare of animals. Copyright © 1999-2010 tazzys.org. All rights reserved. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Please add Rosie to CLS
I am so terribley sorry for your loss. I tell my husband everyday what amazing people I have corresponded with on this site. Bless you for all that you did for Rosie and all the other precious ones. Jannes From: Alice Flowers To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" Sent: Tue, March 29, 2011 10:09:25 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] Please add Rosie to CLS Rosie passed last night, I could not bear to watch her wasting away. The Lymphoma had beat her. We had her on Pred and Leukeran-which shrank the mass near her throat the first week, then it came back with a vengeance the next week. We increased it to every other day on the Leukeran to no avail. She was also on Lasix, Lysine, iron, b vitamins, Interferon. She always came into the kitchen and waited for me to give her the meds, but the last few days she began to clamp her jaw, like enough. She was being syringe fed, she couldn't eat-the mass in her neck got so large and hard. Her eyes became empty and she just wanted to hide, she was miserable. When I came home from work last night, I knew it was time. Thank you to the wonderful vets and staff at Sacramento Cat Hospital for staying late so we could help Rosie join her man, Murphy at the bridge-he passed in October from Lymphoma and anemia. Rosie is our 6th and last FeLV kitty-her 4 brothers passed in their first year from anemia, despite all our efforts. I have never felt so defeated and empty in my life. I did not have a clue about FeLV when we rescued the feral babies. It has been a long and sad 2 years, Rosie and Murphy each just made it to 2 1/2 yrs old. Bless all of you fighting this battle-it is a long, and difficult journey, but these babies deserve all the love in the world. Alice with Miso and Sachi-the 2 negatives we adopted when Rosie got so depressed when she was left alone after Murphy passed. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Please add Lola to the CLS list :(
So heartbreaking. Thank you for doing what you could. It is so sad to think about how many more there are out there. So many people just look the other way...Bless you for your compassionate heart. Jannes From: Diane Rosenfeldt To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tue, March 29, 2011 5:56:38 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Please add Lola to the CLS list :( Aww. This hurts my heart. But bless you for bringing her in and giving her a caring passage and people to grieve her. Gentlest of Bridge vibes to little Lola. Diane R. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Beth Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2011 11:06 AM To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Please add Lola to the CLS list :( Got a call at 5pm yesterday that someone had seen a kitty in the ATM drive thru lane at a local bank. I ran up there & didn't see a thing at first. She was a tiny brown tabby sitting so still in the leaves that I didn't even see her. She blended right in. She was so cold & wet & could barely make a sound. I put her in a carrier wrapped in a towel & met some other volunteers who took her to the emergency vet. She was so cold her temp didn't even register. She was FeLV positive & had severe ulcers in her mouth. The vet estimated her to be about 2 years old though she looked like she was only 3 months old. After some time trying to raise her temp they determined the best thing was to euthanize her. Her heart was barely pumping. I named her Lola so she would have a name before going over the Rainbow Bridge. It is so sad to think how long she may have been there & how many people saw her & just kept going without a second thought. What a sad story. Even sadder because I know she is just one of many who meet their end this way. At least she had a name :( Beth Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Cat Foof
I have found that my cats, even Amber my felv cat does not care for the more "expensive/healthy" food. I fed her that at first and after she got past her starvation mode,(a time when she was grateful for anything to eat), she would not eat it as well. I switched to the Meow Mix shredded with gravy and they all love that. I tried feeding my other cats the "healthy stuff" as well and they tried to cover it up like it was a bowel movement..LOL. Amber will eat cooked chicken but my other cats won't eat anything but cat food. I aree with supplementing their junk food cat food with real meat if you can get them to eat it. I am feeding Amber the Fancy Feast brand as well, but it not really a "healthy" brand... It is not cheap in price though. Jannes From: MaiMaiPG To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Mon, March 28, 2011 8:47:40 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cat Foof You may want to supplement what ever food you chose with chicken, ground beef or tuna. I've been able to get whole chicken at 69 or 79 cents a pound near the end of sell by date and recently picked up a couple of hundred cans of tuna at 39 cents each. When you figure out the per pound price you are paying a lot less than cat food and using all of the product. Before anyone jumps on me, the tuna is for putting meds in and is usually divided by 6 cats or by 2 cats and a dog. I would never feed it entirely. I can feed 7 cats and a dog for 3-4 days with a whole chicken. Same with hamburger. On Mar 28, 2011, at 7:08 AM, Katy Doyle wrote: > And that subject is supposed to be "cat food"... Typos! > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Mar 28, 2011, at 8:07 AM, Katy Doyle wrote: > >> What kind of food do you feed your cats? >> >> I was feeding the Blue Buffalo and I really liked it, but it is getting too >>expensive because of my furlough days at work. >> >> I'm looking for something affordable but still good for cats that are FeLV+. >> >> Thanks, >> Katy >> >> Sent from my iPhone > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Question re heat cycle
I will ask about that when I take her back to the vet. In the meantime, are there any supplements you recommend that I can purchase? Thanks! Jannes From: Natalie To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thu, March 24, 2011 4:22:22 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question re heat cycle Vitamin C, B12 - my vet gives injections that we call "the cocktail"works wonders! -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Jannes Taylor Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2011 4:37 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question re heat cycle What vitamin supplement do you guys recommend? Jannes From: MaiMaiPG To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thu, March 24, 2011 2:56:44 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question re heat cycle There are blood tests that can be run tooexpensive though. I took Dixie Louise Doodle Katt to be spayed. She had no scar. Apparently scars are becoming harder to see with self-absorbing stitches etc. I was convinced that she had been spayed.not sure why but an angel sat on my shoulder and yelled in my ear. My wonderful vets ran the blood test even though they were very sure I was wasting my money. A couple of weeks later, one called with the results. Either Dixie had been spayed or she was a male. My little darling was all girl. Dixie was apparently a throw-away who came into my life by was of the same pine thicket that brought most of the cats in my life. She was FeLV+ which led me to this wonderful group. All of this is to say, follow your instincts and knowledge of cats before you have her spayed. FYI: I like colostrum (health food stores or the local farm store--cheaper) for those I know are going to have any surgery and try to give it for a good while before. Most of the cats in my life are feral and they have their own thoughts about what they will and will not consume. Arnica helps healing...I use it frequently myself and swear by it. On Mar 24, 2011, at 2:19 PM, Natalie wrote: > A veterinarian can probably be able to tell by palpating her stomach...I've > had cats that were never very obvious, but when spayed, it was noticeable > that they were in heat. > Because Amber is FeLV+, build up her immune system with some good vitamin > supplements before she is spayed. BTW, when she's shaved, a vet can also > see if there's a scar! I got a cat off death row in NYC, and we don't know > whether she has been spayed. Since I have no intact males, there's no danger > of pregnancy - we will just wait and see if she goes into heat, otherwise, > we can shave and check at any timeI wouldn't worry too much - also check > for nipple size > > -Original Message- > From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org > [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Jannes Taylor > Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2011 3:12 PM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: [Felvtalk] Question re heat cycle > > This Sunday will be one month since I rescued Amber. I have no idea if she > has > ever been spayed or not. I am guessing not... > If she hasn't, should she not be coming in heat soon? I just hope and pray > she > is not pregnant. > > If she does come in heat, I will get her spayed afterwards. Just waiting to > see. > > As always, thank you everyone for your advice! > Jannes > > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Question re heat cycle
What vitamin supplement do you guys recommend? Jannes From: MaiMaiPG To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thu, March 24, 2011 2:56:44 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question re heat cycle There are blood tests that can be run tooexpensive though. I took Dixie Louise Doodle Katt to be spayed. She had no scar. Apparently scars are becoming harder to see with self-absorbing stitches etc. I was convinced that she had been spayed.not sure why but an angel sat on my shoulder and yelled in my ear. My wonderful vets ran the blood test even though they were very sure I was wasting my money. A couple of weeks later, one called with the results. Either Dixie had been spayed or she was a male. My little darling was all girl. Dixie was apparently a throw-away who came into my life by was of the same pine thicket that brought most of the cats in my life. She was FeLV+ which led me to this wonderful group. All of this is to say, follow your instincts and knowledge of cats before you have her spayed. FYI: I like colostrum (health food stores or the local farm store--cheaper) for those I know are going to have any surgery and try to give it for a good while before. Most of the cats in my life are feral and they have their own thoughts about what they will and will not consume. Arnica helps healing...I use it frequently myself and swear by it. On Mar 24, 2011, at 2:19 PM, Natalie wrote: > A veterinarian can probably be able to tell by palpating her stomach...I've > had cats that were never very obvious, but when spayed, it was noticeable > that they were in heat. > Because Amber is FeLV+, build up her immune system with some good vitamin > supplements before she is spayed. BTW, when she's shaved, a vet can also > see if there's a scar! I got a cat off death row in NYC, and we don't know > whether she has been spayed. Since I have no intact males, there's no danger > of pregnancy - we will just wait and see if she goes into heat, otherwise, > we can shave and check at any timeI wouldn't worry too much - also check > for nipple size > > -Original Message- > From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org > [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Jannes Taylor > Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2011 3:12 PM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: [Felvtalk] Question re heat cycle > > This Sunday will be one month since I rescued Amber. I have no idea if she > has > ever been spayed or not. I am guessing not... > If she hasn't, should she not be coming in heat soon? I just hope and pray > she > is not pregnant. > > If she does come in heat, I will get her spayed afterwards. Just waiting to > see. > > As always, thank you everyone for your advice! > Jannes > > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Question re heat cycle
This Sunday will be one month since I rescued Amber. I have no idea if she has ever been spayed or not. I am guessing not... If she hasn't, should she not be coming in heat soon? I just hope and pray she is not pregnant. If she does come in heat, I will get her spayed afterwards. Just waiting to see. As always, thank you everyone for your advice! Jannes ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Keep Cats Indoors
Thank you so much Maureen. I really appreciate you taking the time to reassure me. I really do love little Amber and will do the best I can for her. I can't help hoping and praying that the test was wrong and I can eventually let her join the other "kids". Jannes From: Maureen Olvey To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thu, March 24, 2011 1:49:42 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Keep Cats Indoors Regarding Amber - Been doing more reading. By keeping Amber in the basement you're not putting your cats at risk at all so don't feel guilty about that. One thing said 60% of cats exposed to FeLV don't get it. 5-10% put it into a latent stage. Only about 30% get it and die (still too many though). Sometimes it can take up to a year of prolonged exposure for a healthy adult cat to get the virus in it's system. I honestly think with Amber in the basement your cats have no chance of getting it. You have done a wonderful thing by taking her in. Also - do the IFA test too. Or do it in a couple months when you re-test if the ELISA comes out positive again. Another website I read said the in office ELISA combo test are wrong about 50% of the time. Wonder how many cats have been put down because of that. “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain > Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2011 08:04:47 -0700 > From: jannestay...@yahoo.com > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Keep Cats Indoors > > I use to have indoor/outdoor cats, but now they are strickly indoor. There > are > so many dangers outside such as cars, dogs, and the chance of encountering a > another cat with felv, for example. I do feel sorry for them sometimes, but I > have to say I would trade places with any one of them to live the life of >luxury > > they experinece indoors. They do "long" to go outside sometimes, but I open > up > the windows and let them smell the fresh air. I don't feel too guilty about > it. > > LOL > > Update on Amber, my felv kitty. I've had her three and a half weeks now and > she > > is looking and feeling so much better! She has gained weight and still has a > good appetite. She is so sweet. My husband is building her a "kitty palace", > which is eight feet long, four feet wide, and six feet tall. We bought a cat > tree to put in it so she can climb and get her exercise. I have been keeping >her > > in a much smaller cage (the only on I have) and letting her roam in the > basement a few hours a day when I can. I so wish I could bring her upstairs >with > > the other cats, but just don't feel I should take the risk. I am still > struggling a little bit with putting them at risk at all, but it is what it > is! > > I still plan to have Amber retested in a couple of months. Whatever happens, >I > > am still glad I have been given the opportunity to make a difference in her > life. Jannes > > > > > > > From: Natalie > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Sent: Wed, March 23, 2011 8:13:09 AM > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Keep Cats Indoors > > As an adopter, my views on this are very strict and well-defined - I am > responsible for placing cats in the safest possible homes, and I would do no > less. I need to be able to sleep at night, knowing that the cats that I > rescued and invested so much time, energy, and emotion will be safe and > happy for a long time. > Yes, I agree, there still are a few safe area left, but not many and none > are 100% safe, ever. It is true that times used to be safer for cats to be > outdoors - ours always had been, especially when I was growing up, until one > of our kittens was killed by a carUnfortunately, it takes many people to > understand this only after a tragedy occurs. When an adopter tells me that > their cat ALWAYS sat on the front porch, and never leftand they intend > to do the same with a new adopted cat, I say NO! Their old cat may have > indeed done that, but it doesn't mean that a new cat will do it: It takes > ONLY ONE TIME - chasing a squirrel or bird across the street, and WHAM! > Cats can be perfectly happy indoors with tall cat trees by a window, a > window perch, the right kind of toys to keep them interested and active. > More and more people construct outdoor enclosures; simple ones to really > elaborate ones, even just a little window screened porch. I don't believe > that cats need to hunt; if they are homeless and hungry, yes, but there's no > need for a well-fed cat to kill small wildlife, not for food, but for fun > and the reflex of chasing something (could be a toy). > > -Original Message- > From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org > [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@feli
Re: [Felvtalk] Keep Studs in your thoughts Please
What in the world is wrong with some people!! She needs to be left in a box with no food or water. This makes me so angry! Please keep us updated on the poor kitty. Jannes From: Beth To: FeLV Talk Sent: Wed, March 23, 2011 11:23:13 AM Subject: [Felvtalk] Keep Studs in your thoughts Please I was supposed to have a new FeLV kitty "Studs" aka "Stud Muffin" last night, but the lady who was transporting him left him in a carrier in her carport with no food or water all day. I live in Atlanta & it has been hot. He had to be treated for severe dehydration & is currently at the vet. They also discovered he had a severe heart murmur, so they are going to check to see if that can me managed with meds or if it is too late. He is apparently a total love bug. My favorite kind of cat - big black short haired cat with green eyes. Beth Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Keep Cats Indoors
I use to have indoor/outdoor cats, but now they are strickly indoor. There are so many dangers outside such as cars, dogs, and the chance of encountering a another cat with felv, for example. I do feel sorry for them sometimes, but I have to say I would trade places with any one of them to live the life of luxury they experinece indoors. They do "long" to go outside sometimes, but I open up the windows and let them smell the fresh air. I don't feel too guilty about it. LOL Update on Amber, my felv kitty. I've had her three and a half weeks now and she is looking and feeling so much better! She has gained weight and still has a good appetite. She is so sweet. My husband is building her a "kitty palace", which is eight feet long, four feet wide, and six feet tall. We bought a cat tree to put in it so she can climb and get her exercise. I have been keeping her in a much smaller cage (the only on I have) and letting her roam in the basement a few hours a day when I can. I so wish I could bring her upstairs with the other cats, but just don't feel I should take the risk. I am still struggling a little bit with putting them at risk at all, but it is what it is! I still plan to have Amber retested in a couple of months. Whatever happens, I am still glad I have been given the opportunity to make a difference in her life. Jannes From: Natalie To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wed, March 23, 2011 8:13:09 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Keep Cats Indoors As an adopter, my views on this are very strict and well-defined - I am responsible for placing cats in the safest possible homes, and I would do no less. I need to be able to sleep at night, knowing that the cats that I rescued and invested so much time, energy, and emotion will be safe and happy for a long time. Yes, I agree, there still are a few safe area left, but not many and none are 100% safe, ever. It is true that times used to be safer for cats to be outdoors - ours always had been, especially when I was growing up, until one of our kittens was killed by a carUnfortunately, it takes many people to understand this only after a tragedy occurs. When an adopter tells me that their cat ALWAYS sat on the front porch, and never leftand they intend to do the same with a new adopted cat, I say NO! Their old cat may have indeed done that, but it doesn't mean that a new cat will do it: It takes ONLY ONE TIME - chasing a squirrel or bird across the street, and WHAM! Cats can be perfectly happy indoors with tall cat trees by a window, a window perch, the right kind of toys to keep them interested and active. More and more people construct outdoor enclosures; simple ones to really elaborate ones, even just a little window screened porch. I don't believe that cats need to hunt; if they are homeless and hungry, yes, but there's no need for a well-fed cat to kill small wildlife, not for food, but for fun and the reflex of chasing something (could be a toy). -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lorrie Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2011 7:56 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Keep Cats Indoors This is a hot topic, but I agree humans and loss of habitat are the main threat to birds. As for keeping cats inside. I've had cats all my life and they have always been indoor/outdoor cats. All of them have lived to 16 to 17 years of age unless they've had some genetic problem like heart disease. My cats were all rescues and they lived outside before I had them, and they are totally miserable inside. It's really only the last couple decades that cats have been living indoors, but the invention of cat litter and urban sprawl have made us think all cats have the perfect life indoors, when in reality, cats are happier if they can live outdoors. They are programmed to hunt small animalswhich is the best nutrition for them. They need to climb trees, stalk at night with their night vision, and be free. Cats were not made for sitting in a window sill, and a prison is a prison no matter how many cat toys and kitty kondos we buy for them. It's true that some outdoor cats have a shorter life expectancy, but this mostly depends on where they live. If they live in a safe area with little or no traffic then I feel they should be allowed to be outside. There are some cats who will never willingly settle for the indoor life. We live in the middle of the woods on a dead end road with no traffic and our cats are allowed to go outside. I rarely see them catch a bird, but they catch many mice & moles. I feel sad to see anything killed, but cats and dogs are predators and this is what they were designed to do. Lorrie > Sorry but that information is outdated or biased. The number one > killer of birds is humans due to habitat loss or construction for same. > > Humans: The Number One Threat to Birds
Re: [Felvtalk] Rosie's mass has returned
Very well said, Bonnie. Alice, I am so sorry to hear this about Rosie, but you are doing all you can do, and Rosie is very lucky to have you. After rescuing a felv cat just three weeks ago, I have learned so much just seeing all the emails that come through regarding this dreadful disease. There are so many wonderful folks out there, like you who go the extra mile. I really did not know this until I was faced with this issue myself. All any of us can do, is the best we can! I can assure you that 8 out of 10 people, I tell about rescuing Amber, my felv cat, say I should have just "let her go." It sometimes scares me the lack of compassion that some people possess. It is "painful" sometimes to be a compassionate person, because of the losses we will face, but I will try to be grateful for what I am able to do to help and leave the rest in God's hands. I hope you will find peace knowing what a blessing you have been.Jannes From: Bonnie Hogue To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tue, March 22, 2011 1:18:11 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Rosie's mass has returned Alice Keep your spirits up -- it is your love and healing that help Rosie. Where would she be without you? The temporary aspect, the fact that the cat lives a fraction of the human (and the sick cat even less) is one of the hardest things in life. Still, it is a blessing to both cat and human to form this bond in the face of impossible odds. Hang in there! ~B. - Original Message - From: "Alice Flowers" To: Sent: Monday, March 21, 2011 11:03 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] Rosie's mass has returned > Rosie had such a great check up with the mass almost gone-now she is sleeping > most of the time and I have been feeling the mass grow large again. She is on > Leukeran every 3 days and pred daily with interferon 2x a day. I am calling the > Dr tomorrow to see what we should do. I am beat down by this disease. Alice > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Xavier Please add to the CLS :(
Sherry, I am so sorry for your loss. You were both lucky to have each other. Cherish the memories you have. Thank God there are people like you out there who care so much. Jannes From: Mike Finch To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sat, March 19, 2011 2:39:11 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Xavier Please add to the CLS :( Sherry, Our hearts break a little too each time you share that you've lost another precious one. So sorry. Mike :) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Rosie's Check Up Today-Pretty Good!
Great news! Rosie is so blessed to have you taking care of her. God Bless you all. Jannes From: Sara Kasteleyn To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thu, March 17, 2011 8:50:47 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Rosie's Check Up Today-Pretty Good! Wow Alice, this is really great news. Keeing you all in y thoughts and prayers for continuing good health! Sara --Original Mail-- From: "Alice Flowers" To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" Sent: Wed, 16 Mar 2011 19:35:40 -0700 PDT Subject: [Felvtalk] Rosie's Check Up Today-Pretty Good! WooHoo!! Rosie had a great check up today!! The mass in her throat / neck was so much smaller in just 3 weeks on the Pred / Leukeran regime. We are going to decrease the Prednisolone and keep up the Leukeran. Ultrasound showed no Lymphoma in her abdomen (so far)Her hot, red ears may get better with the lower dosage. Dr said she had good color, no temp. Looks like with luck and purrayers, she may be around to thump on Miso a bit longer! Alice and the kids-Rosie, Miso and Sachi (the 2 negatives I adopted a few months ago) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated.
So sorry to hear of your loss. I believe I am more sentimental than I have ever been! But, I can't help it Is this what happens after you pass the 50 mark??? Must be "menopaws" contributing to it, I guess. LOL Jannes From: Maureen Olvey To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wed, March 16, 2011 5:24:52 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated. Alright you two - cut it out! It's only been a week and two days since my two year old cat died so it doesn't take much right now to get me bawling like a baby. No, really you guys aren't upsetting me. I think about her a lot anyway. “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain > Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2011 15:00:01 -0700 > From: jannestay...@yahoo.com > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated. > > I can relate to that! I've had quite a few cats in my 52 years. You never >really > > forget no matter how long it has been. > > Jannes > > > > > > From: Natalie > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Sent: Wed, March 16, 2011 4:30:13 PM > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated. > > You're among like-minded people in this group - just this afternoon, I was > sitting with a few cats in my lap, a dog next to me, watching the horrors > happening in Japan. I looked over at one of our cats who looks just like > our old Houdini who die in Novembersuddenly, I started tearfully > remembering details of almost ALL the cats that have died in my > lifetimenow, I have a headache. > > -Original Message- > From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org > [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Jannes Taylor > Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2011 4:56 PM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated. > > Thanks, Bonnie, > Yes, Amber and I have a connection now but I am very tender hearted and know > it > will be painful if her health gets bad. We had to have our Great Dane put > down > five years ago and I STILL get teary eyed about that. He had cardio myothapy > and > an parasitic infection. > It does warm my heart to see Amber safe, well fed, and adjusting to her new > surroundings. She won't "play" yet, but maybe that will come.. > Jannes > > > > > ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Thank You for your Advice
So sorry for the loss of Patches. I have the same thoughts about Amber as far as her dying from starvation. She was truly just a few days away from death I have no doubt. At least she has a chance and won't die out in the woods. Jannes From: Diane Rosenfeldt To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wed, March 16, 2011 6:34:14 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Thank You for your Advice Yikes. Perhaps this vet should recuse himself from *treating* cats? A vet is actually supposed to know stuff even though he isn't a "_ person." I'm glad you have other choices. When we took our Patches (the reason I am on this list, though he died a few years ago) in for testing (he had just showed up on our doorstep one summer night, demanding our attention, and terribly, terribly matted) our vet told us he was FeLV+, and in the next breath said, "These are your options..." Euthanasia was one of them, of course, but we were happy that she wasn't pushing it, and the other options included seeing how things went and fairly conservative treatment, and since we love animals but are not made of money, we eagerly did that. Things didn't go well, unfortunately, and he became symptomatic -- lymph nodes swollen, stopped eating -- and we let him go. He was such a sweet guy, it still makes me sad to think we didn't have time to really get to know him, and he never got a chance to leave the room we were caring for him in, which he really wanted to do. But we are happy that he came to us because if he had stayed on the street he would have had a much worse end. Diane R. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Jannes Taylor Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2011 9:06 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Thank You for your Advice Actually it was a young (early twenties) vet who didn't even know what an IFA test was. He had to go "read up" about FeLV when I was there. He did tell me he was not a "cat person." He was the new kid on the block with the four other vets who are in the same office. Unreal!! I took one of my other cats to the clinic last Saturday for her yearly check-up/vaccines and thank God I saw the vet I like and have seen the most of during the last 8 years. He was sympathetic, but he was extremely concered about exposing my other cats. I do think he would put her down if it was up to him. However, he did not come out and actually say that. It was just the impression I got. I do think I will take Amber to see another vet who is recommened to me when I take her back for retesting. He has his own cat just roaming around in his office during the day. I bet he is a cat person! Jannes ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated.
I can relate to that! I've had quite a few cats in my 52 years. You never really forget no matter how long it has been. Jannes From: Natalie To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wed, March 16, 2011 4:30:13 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated. You're among like-minded people in this group - just this afternoon, I was sitting with a few cats in my lap, a dog next to me, watching the horrors happening in Japan. I looked over at one of our cats who looks just like our old Houdini who die in Novembersuddenly, I started tearfully remembering details of almost ALL the cats that have died in my lifetimenow, I have a headache. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Jannes Taylor Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2011 4:56 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated. Thanks, Bonnie, Yes, Amber and I have a connection now but I am very tender hearted and know it will be painful if her health gets bad. We had to have our Great Dane put down five years ago and I STILL get teary eyed about that. He had cardio myothapy and an parasitic infection. It does warm my heart to see Amber safe, well fed, and adjusting to her new surroundings. She won't "play" yet, but maybe that will come.. Jannes From: Bonnie Hogue To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wed, March 16, 2011 3:12:40 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated. Jannes You will get (if you haven't already) loads of really great and helpful advice from this group. Personally, I would say, if you have a heart-connection with Amber (which it certainly seems you do) and you are willing to help her enjoy whatever life she had on earth, Go For It! You may be pleasantly surprised by the outcome. And Amber surely will be! Peace, Bonnie - Original Message - From: "Jannes Taylor" To: Sent: Monday, March 14, 2011 1:50 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated. > Hello, > I rescued a stray two weeks ago. Took her to the vet a week ago and they said > she was FELV positive. She was starving when I found her, but she has gained > weight and is looking good. Her eyes just glisten and she seems healthy. The >vet > said she was about a year old. She only weighed six pounds last week. I did not > have the heart to euthanize her when she is not suffering. However, I have > three healthy cats upstairs and I live in constant fear that they will escape >to > the basement where this cat we now call Amber is staying. I keep her in a nice > cage during most of the time and let her out to get her exercise in the >basement > about four hours per day. My husband is building her a 8' long x 4' wide x 6' > tall cage so she will have more room I do hate keeping her caged up, but don't > have a choice. She is very sweet and it is just a sad situation. I tried to >find > a home for her but no one seems to want a cat with her issues. We are trying to > be very cautious regarding the other cats, but it is does make me fearful. > I plan to have her rested in three months. I am so new to this situation, so >any > comments or ideas are much appreciated. > Jannes > > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated.
Thanks, Bonnie, Yes, Amber and I have a connection now but I am very tender hearted and know it will be painful if her health gets bad. We had to have our Great Dane put down five years ago and I STILL get teary eyed about that. He had cardio myothapy and an parasitic infection. It does warm my heart to see Amber safe, well fed, and adjusting to her new surroundings. She won't "play" yet, but maybe that will come.. Jannes From: Bonnie Hogue To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wed, March 16, 2011 3:12:40 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated. Jannes You will get (if you haven't already) loads of really great and helpful advice from this group. Personally, I would say, if you have a heart-connection with Amber (which it certainly seems you do) and you are willing to help her enjoy whatever life she had on earth, Go For It! You may be pleasantly surprised by the outcome. And Amber surely will be! Peace, Bonnie - Original Message - From: "Jannes Taylor" To: Sent: Monday, March 14, 2011 1:50 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated. > Hello, > I rescued a stray two weeks ago. Took her to the vet a week ago and they said > she was FELV positive. She was starving when I found her, but she has gained > weight and is looking good. Her eyes just glisten and she seems healthy. The >vet > said she was about a year old. She only weighed six pounds last week. I did not > have the heart to euthanize her when she is not suffering. However, I have > three healthy cats upstairs and I live in constant fear that they will escape >to > the basement where this cat we now call Amber is staying. I keep her in a nice > cage during most of the time and let her out to get her exercise in the >basement > about four hours per day. My husband is building her a 8' long x 4' wide x 6' > tall cage so she will have more room I do hate keeping her caged up, but don't > have a choice. She is very sweet and it is just a sad situation. I tried to >find > a home for her but no one seems to want a cat with her issues. We are trying to > be very cautious regarding the other cats, but it is does make me fearful. > I plan to have her rested in three months. I am so new to this situation, so >any > comments or ideas are much appreciated. > Jannes > > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Thank You for your Advice
Actually it was a young (early twenties) vet who didn't even know what an IFA test was. He had to go "read up" about FeLV when I was there. He did tell me he was not a "cat person." He was the new kid on the block with the four other vets who are in the same office. Unreal!! I took one of my other cats to the clinic last Saturday for her yearly check-up/vaccines and thank God I saw the vet I like and have seen the most of during the last 8 years. He was sympathetic, but he was extremely concered about exposing my other cats. I do think he would put her down if it was up to him. However, he did not come out and actually say that. It was just the impression I got. I do think I will take Amber to see another vet who is recommened to me when I take her back for retesting. He has his own cat just roaming around in his office during the day. I bet he is a cat person! Jannes From: TANYA NOE To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wed, March 16, 2011 8:24:56 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Thank You for your Advice I agree with Diane, any vet who recommends euthanasia because a cat is FeLV, and for that reason only is not only ignorant but very uneducated in the most recent research out there. A lot of the younger vets tend to be a bit more up to date and more sympathetic to FeLV cats. When we found out that our Maggie was positive (we had her snap tested before we got her but the clinic did a "batch test" where they took blood from all 4 kittens, mixed it together and then pulled the 3 drops needed from the mixture). I was not aware of this or never would have allowed that to happen. Maggie's FeLV was too diluted to show positive and her 3 siblings were neg. We did not find out she was POS until a few months later when she became symptomatic and we retested again and also did an IFA. We decided to keep her which the vets there were very disapproving of. They believed that all FeLV cats should be destroyed so that we could eradicate the disease. While I agree with eradicating the disease, my little Maggie isn't spreading her disease anywhere as my indoor kitty. Our other kitty is vaccinated against FeLV and we do not keep them separated. We count on the vaccine and the natural immunities cats develop as they age to keep Sasha safe, and so far so good. We made the decision to mix after talking to everyone on here and getting their advice first too. Good luck with what ever you do. Tanya --- On Tue, 3/15/11, Diane Rosenfeldt wrote: > From: Diane Rosenfeldt > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Thank You for your Advice > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Date: Tuesday, March 15, 2011, 7:31 PM > Wow, Jannes. The vet advocating > euthanization is a warning sign not to let > him/her treat this particular cat. She is obviously not up > to date on the > latest research and you need all the knowledge you can get > to maintain > Amber's good health. You might consider calling around to > different vets and > see what their feeling is about FeLV care. If you know of > some vets who > treat shelter cats, they may be a good place to start > because they will have > encountered it before. > > Best of luck with Amber. I personally hope you choose to > vaccinate the > others and let her commingle, but that's me and not you. > ;-) > > Diane R. > > -Original Message- > From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org > [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] > On Behalf Of Jannes Taylor > Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2011 9:55 AM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: [Felvtalk] Thank You for your Advice > > I want to thank everyone who responded about my post > regarding Amber, my > FeLV positive cat. > I have been feeling a little guilty about risking the > health of my other > cats from some chance encounter with Amber. I still plan > to be cautious but > do feel less stressed about it. > I have done a lot of research on the web, but there is > nothing like being > able to get advice from folks who have experienced this > situation. > The vet leaned toward euthanization after her after her > test came back > positive. > I just could not euthanize a seemingly otherwise healthy > cat. I want to give > her a chance! I hope and pray that her next test will come > back negative. > > Whatever happens, I am glad I was there to save her > from starving to death. > She is getting high quality food now and lots of petting > every chance I get! > She has improved a lot in the last few weeks. It is sad how > she sits at the > top of the staircase and can't come upstairs. It is what it > is, I guess. At > least for now... > I would love to hear from more folks regarding t
Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated.
I feel like I must be very cautious until I know for sure where we stand after the restesting. I do appreciate your story and do not feel as nervous about the situation as I did. This has certainly been a learning experience for me. I have loved cats all my life and try to spoil them as much as I can. It makes me feel good to see Amber get all the food she wants and I hear her purr. It is sad she has lost her freedom but I hope to be able to give her a good life. BTW, Do you think I should have her spayed or wait until after the restesting? My husband questions whether we should ever her spayed since she can't get out. Jannes From: Gloria Lane To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" Sent: Mon, March 14, 2011 7:04:01 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated. I'd say don't worry about it. I just don't think it's that contagious. I mix mine. Sent from my iPhone On Mar 14, 2011, at 6:59 PM, Maureen Olvey wrote: > > I foster cats and kittens for my local humane society. Last week a 2 year > old >kitty died. She tested positive for FeLV. I got her as a kitten and at that >time she tested negative. I have got quite a few cats that have been living >with me as long as she has been with me. They all share the same food bowls >and >litterboxes. None are vaccinated against FeLV since every cat or kitten that >comes into my house has been tested first. It terrified me when I found out >she >had been positive, especially since I have a 5 month old kitten that has been >living with me since he was 8 weeks old. Today I had him and an older kitten >that is about 8 months old tested at the vet's office. The older kitten has >been with me since he was about 12 weeks old. They both came out negative. A >couple weeks ago I had an adult that had been with me almost as long as the >FeLV >cat was with me and she tested negative as well. So, I tell you this Jannes >to >confirm what the others have said because it shows that not all cats contract >FeLV and there is no need to panic right now. The vet felt that since those >kittens and the cat that I had tested had been exposed to FeLV for so long >that >if they were going to get it they would have already gotten it. Especially >the >cat that had lived at my house with the FeLV + cat for a year and a half. > > A friend of mine has also had 3 or 4 FeLV positive cats living alongside her >healthy cats for years. She gets her healthy cats vaccinated against FeLV and >they have never contracted the disease from the FeLV cats. I would vaccinate >your healthy cats now and let the FeLV + cat run around the basement and if >she >tests negative in a few months or test negative with the ELISA and IFA test I >would let her in the rest of the house with the other cats. But, that's what >I >would do, not necessarily what you should do. Actually, I would trust the >vaccine and after your healthy cats get their vaccination (it takes a series >of >two shots the first time) then I'd let all three hang together. But it's your >cats and you have to make that decision. > > > > “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are >profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon >unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me >sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain > > > >> Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2011 14:26:53 -0700 >> From: jgonza...@pacbell.net >> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated. >> >> I realize now that I did not address the concern you posted about. I felt >> the >>need to educate you about the testing protocol for FELV because I would hate >>to >>see you cage a cat for 3 months that may not even be infected with the >>virus. >>You cannot consider a cat persistently viremic until they test positive on >>the >>IFA test. >> >> >> If it turns out the cat you rescued is really FELV positive, she is not >> going >>to transmit the virus to your other cats through some chance encounter. It >>would take prolonged contact with your other cats to infect them with the >>virus. Even if they had prolonged contact, it does not mean your other cats >>would get the virus. Some cats are able to build an immune response and >>fight >>off the virus. I rescued a cat over the summer that tested positive on the >>combo snap test and the ELISA test but tested negative on the IFA. Thirty >>days >>later, he tested negative on the snap test, the ELISA test and c
Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated.
Thank you so much for sharing. This makes me feel less paranoid, at the least. I will definately have her retested. If she still tests negative, I will still give her the best life I can. :) Jannes From: Jacquelyn Gonzales To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Mon, March 14, 2011 4:26:53 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated. I realize now that I did not address the concern you posted about. I felt the need to educate you about the testing protocol for FELV because I would hate to see you cage a cat for 3 months that may not even be infected with the virus. You cannot consider a cat persistently viremic until they test positive on the IFA test. If it turns out the cat you rescued is really FELV positive, she is not going to transmit the virus to your other cats through some chance encounter. It would take prolonged contact with your other cats to infect them with the virus. Even if they had prolonged contact, it does not mean your other cats would get the virus. Some cats are able to build an immune response and fight off the virus. I rescued a cat over the summer that tested positive on the combo snap test and the ELISA test but tested negative on the IFA. Thirty days later, he tested negative on the snap test, the ELISA test and continued to test negative on the IFA test. As a precaution, we tested again 30 days later, and he continued to test negative on all three tests. His body built an immune defense and fought off the virus --- On Mon, 3/14/11, Jannes Taylor wrote: From: Jannes Taylor Subject: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated. To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Monday, March 14, 2011, 1:50 PM Hello, I rescued a stray two weeks ago. Took her to the vet a week ago and they said she was FELV positive. She was starving when I found her, but she has gained weight and is looking good. Her eyes just glisten and she seems healthy. The vet said she was about a year old. She only weighed six pounds last week. I did not have the heart to euthanize her when she is not suffering. However, I have three healthy cats upstairs and I live in constant fear that they will escape to the basement where this cat we now call Amber is staying. I keep her in a nice cage during most of the time and let her out to get her exercise in the basement about four hours per day. My husband is building her a 8' long x 4' wide x 6' tall cage so she will have more room I do hate keeping her caged up, but don't have a choice. She is very sweet and it is just a sad situation. I tried to find a home for her but no one seems to want a cat with her issues. We are trying to be very cautious regarding the other cats, but it is does make me fearful. I plan to have her rested in three months. I am so new to this situation, so any comments or ideas are much appreciated. Jannes ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated.
Thank You so much for your informative information. I really appreciate it! Jannes From: Jacquelyn Gonzales To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Mon, March 14, 2011 4:08:44 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated. Hi Jannes: The FELV/FIV Combo SNAP tests can have a lot of cross-reactivity resulting in false positives. IF you tested via the in-house FELV/FIV Combo test (the test they run in the vet's office) you should retest via the ELISA test that is sent to the lab. Alternatively, you could test via the IFA test now and if the test is positive, the cat is considered persistently viremic and no further testing is required. The ELISA test shows the presence of an antigen created by the cat's immune response to FeLV infection in the red blood cells, while the IFA shows this same antigen in the white blood cells. The difference is that the antigen only goes into the white cells at a later stage of infection, which is why IFA+ cats are considered persistently viremic while an ELISA+ / IFA- cat may have a transient viremia that can be completely thrown off. There is no right or wrong answer when it comes to the testing. You can test via the IFA now and if it is positive, the cat is considered persistently viremic and no further testing is needed. If you test via the IFA test and it is negative, you have to test via the ELISA lab test. I have FELV+ cats of my own and have rescued others. If you have discordant test results, you cannot consider the cat FELV negative until you get results that match. There is no need to wait 3 months. If I were you, I would test via the ELISA test that is sent to the lab now. If it is positive, the next step is to test via the IFA test. --- On Mon, 3/14/11, Jannes Taylor wrote: From: Jannes Taylor Subject: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated. To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Monday, March 14, 2011, 1:50 PM Hello, I rescued a stray two weeks ago. Took her to the vet a week ago and they said she was FELV positive. She was starving when I found her, but she has gained weight and is looking good. Her eyes just glisten and she seems healthy. The vet said she was about a year old. She only weighed six pounds last week. I did not have the heart to euthanize her when she is not suffering. However, I have three healthy cats upstairs and I live in constant fear that they will escape to the basement where this cat we now call Amber is staying. I keep her in a nice cage during most of the time and let her out to get her exercise in the basement about four hours per day. My husband is building her a 8' long x 4' wide x 6' tall cage so she will have more room I do hate keeping her caged up, but don't have a choice. She is very sweet and it is just a sad situation. I tried to find a home for her but no one seems to want a cat with her issues. We are trying to be very cautious regarding the other cats, but it is does make me fearful. I plan to have her rested in three months. I am so new to this situation, so any comments or ideas are much appreciated. Jannes ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Thank You for your Advice
Thank you, Natalie. I am so hoping her next test will be negative, but I will do the best I can regadless. Jannes From: Natalie To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tue, March 15, 2011 10:39:41 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Thank You for your Advice Unfortunately, there are many vets with those views, even if the cat is the ONLY cat in a homewhy would anyone kill a perfectly healthy cat that happens to test positive for FeLV or FIV, and in NO way can even contribute to exposing another cat to it I have heard that from people again and again, and sadly, they listen to those vets and continue this myth about having to kill any cat that tests positive! I am so glad that there are people like you who don't believe everything a vet suggests as being gospel truth! This cat may be healthy forever, or it may not. There are no guarantees that our healthy cats will be healthy forever either, are there? Do the best you can under the circumstances! Natalie -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Jannes Taylor Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2011 10:55 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Thank You for your Advice I want to thank everyone who responded about my post regarding Amber, my FeLV positive cat. I have been feeling a little guilty about risking the health of my other cats from some chance encounter with Amber. I still plan to be cautious but do feel less stressed about it. I have done a lot of research on the web, but there is nothing like being able to get advice from folks who have experienced this situation. The vet leaned toward euthanization after her after her test came back positive. I just could not euthanize a seemingly otherwise healthy cat. I want to give her a chance! I hope and pray that her next test will come back negative. Whatever happens, I am glad I was there to save her from starving to death. She is getting high quality food now and lots of petting every chance I get! She has improved a lot in the last few weeks. It is sad how she sits at the top of the staircase and can't come upstairs. It is what it is, I guess. At least for now... I would love to hear from more folks regarding this subject. Thanks you all and God Bless!! Jannes ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Thank You for your Advice
I want to thank everyone who responded about my post regarding Amber, my FeLV positive cat. I have been feeling a little guilty about risking the health of my other cats from some chance encounter with Amber. I still plan to be cautious but do feel less stressed about it. I have done a lot of research on the web, but there is nothing like being able to get advice from folks who have experienced this situation. The vet leaned toward euthanization after her after her test came back positive. I just could not euthanize a seemingly otherwise healthy cat. I want to give her a chance! I hope and pray that her next test will come back negative. Whatever happens, I am glad I was there to save her from starving to death. She is getting high quality food now and lots of petting every chance I get! She has improved a lot in the last few weeks. It is sad how she sits at the top of the staircase and can't come upstairs. It is what it is, I guess. At least for now... I would love to hear from more folks regarding this subject. Thanks you all and God Bless!! Jannes ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated.
Hello, I rescued a stray two weeks ago. Took her to the vet a week ago and they said she was FELV positive. She was starving when I found her, but she has gained weight and is looking good. Her eyes just glisten and she seems healthy. The vet said she was about a year old. She only weighed six pounds last week. I did not have the heart to euthanize her when she is not suffering. However, I have three healthy cats upstairs and I live in constant fear that they will escape to the basement where this cat we now call Amber is staying. I keep her in a nice cage during most of the time and let her out to get her exercise in the basement about four hours per day. My husband is building her a 8' long x 4' wide x 6' tall cage so she will have more room I do hate keeping her caged up, but don't have a choice. She is very sweet and it is just a sad situation. I tried to find a home for her but no one seems to want a cat with her issues. We are trying to be very cautious regarding the other cats, but it is does make me fearful. I plan to have her rested in three months. I am so new to this situation, so any comments or ideas are much appreciated. Jannes ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
