I agree, Marcia -- livestock should be protected. I understand that they are
meant for food for people, but they still deserve respect. This is why I am
such a fan of Temple Grandin. She got it right.
I find myself more and more unable to eat beef lately..because of the
cruelty they get
Congratulations! I don't get these people, if they don't really care for
the horses, don't they at least appreciate them for their monetary
value?
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Sent:
Sorry to stray into this area, but we were on this thread:
My solution to this came in 1985, when I read a Rodale book by a reporter
whose experience, while writing about all the animal issues from fur to
veganism, was to become vegetarian himself. I looked at our dogs and cats,
and wondered why
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A few months ago, a friend noticed a
At my age 70, I've earned the right to say what I feel...andI do itjust
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A failure is just a stopover on the way to SUCCESS.
From: Natalie at...@optonline.net
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 6:26 AM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Being blunt
Welcome to 70 - I'll be 71 in December! Great age, isn't it?
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of D.S.Louis
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 10:02 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Being blunt
At my
You're right, Natalie -- we COULD do better. But Dr. Grandin has the right
idea. That's all I'm saying. Animals deserve our respect, no matter what the
species. they are individuals, after all.
My husband will NEVER give up meat. We've talked about it. Won't happen. As
for myself, I am
Terri
I know this sounds crazy, but 20 years ago, after watching City Slickers
where Billy Crystal saved Norman the calf from the rapids, I turned to my
husband and said I am never eating beef again. And I never have. Chicken
pork and fish followed a few months later. I certainly have learned
Hi Marcia,
I don't think re-testing is ever a bad idea, but in order to truly determine
where his FeLV is as far as infection goes, a bone marrow aspirate would have
to be done.It's been 6 years since I've had a FeLV+ baby here, and I was
inactive on this list for quite some time. I
I think that only one of Cargills slaughter houses uses her methods. And
Temple said in one of her books that she felt bad about building something
to send animals to their death. But more or less that if it is going to
happen, it would help their state of mind. Another reason for this is to
my husband too.in fact he has even bought cattle and I didn't speak to
him for a week.
On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 10:59 AM, Terri Brown siggies...@hotmail.comwrote:
**
Hi Marcia,
I don't think re-testing is ever a bad idea, but in order to truly
determine where his FeLV is as far as
Sounds good to me!
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On Aug 24, 2011, at 10:47 AM, Marcia Baronda marciabmar...@gmail.com wrote:
Terri
I know this sounds crazy, but 20 years ago, after watching City Slickers
where Billy Crystal saved Norman the calf from the rapids, I turned to my
husband and said
We have one cat with a vestibular problem, and he's super sweet, a real
uncle to all the cats.but when he feels worse, he walks around hissing all
the time, and we know it's not at any particular cat - he's just not feeling
too well that day! Fletch probably feels terrible when he does that! Is
I have a thought - can you cook the beef to taste really awful?
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Terri Brown
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 12:00 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Being blunt
Hi
We have one cat with a vestibular problem, and he's super sweet, a real
uncle to all the cats.but when he feels worse, he walks around hissing all
the time, and we know it's not at any particular cat - he's just not feeling
too well that day! Fletch probably feels terrible when he does that! Is
you're a sweetheart. Right now he has some unknown infection..when I took
him to the vet his temp was 105. So they put him on amoxi. She said that if
he can't clear the infection he can just stay on amoxi. I think he needs
probiotics too. I would think staying on an antibiotic all the time would
ROFL
I could try, but I'm a good cook -- he'd know I did it on purpose!
T
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From: Nataliemailto:at...@optonline.net
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgmailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 12:44 PM
Subject: [Felvtalk] FW:
For those who have had experience with fracking:
Jeanne Bramhall
http://org2.democracyinaction.org/dia/track.jsp?v=2c=vnLSynjbGVH0%2BgqUH47
8AoHpbqZTxjxA Did Fracking Cause the Virginia Earthquake?
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The epicenter of
Kudos to you Natalie for taking in that precious boy! I bet he was so scared.
I wish my home was quiet, I would take him in. Keep us posted on him please.
L
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From: Natalie
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 11:45 AM
Subject:
Ya know, that was my first thought!! Am I a fear monger? No, just well
educated about the effects of gas drilling fracking. Check this news out, it
was just posted on my friends FB page. Read full article by clicking on the
link for those that are interested.
State air tests in two
Thanks for sharing that article. It's very interesting indeed!
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From: Natalie
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 12:32 PM
Subject: [Felvtalk] For those who had experience with fracking: Did Fracking
Cause the Virginia
In June we adopted two cats a young black female(Spicy) and a orange female
(Sunny) from animal control. Our local shelter was overrun with cats and
begging people to come adopt. When we took them to the vets a week after being
adopted the receptionist asked if we wanted them tested. I did
I'd get her a friend and a new vet.
On Aug 24, 2011, at 1:38 PM, April Johnson wrote:
In June we adopted two cats a young black female(Spicy) and a orange
female (Sunny) from animal control. Our local shelter was overrun
with cats and begging people to come adopt. When we took them to
I agree.
I had a FeLV+ cat that lived to 9-1/2 years. It's not a death sentence.
I also mixed FeLV and non-Felv, without ever having one of my negatives get the
disease. Make sure your negatives are current on boosters, and you should be
fine. If you can take in a FeLV+ baby for a companion
In Arkansas there had been many, many small earthquakes, and fracking is
suspected! No, you're not a fear monger, you're facing reality of what they
would like no one to notice..
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lynda Wilson
I got a FeLV+ cat 3/2 yrs ago.couldn't find anyone to take him, he was very
lonely. After two yrs alone, I found another FeLV+ cat - they became
friends overnight. A few months ago, I decided to retest them, using the
IFA - they were both negative. Just imagine, how lucky I was - one of them
April, let me ask you this first...has an IFA test been done? This test should
always follow a positive ELISA test. The ELISA tests have a reputation for
false positives.
I will say that she does have a chance of clearing the virus. How long ago was
Spicy originally tested?
Thanks!
Lynda
I agree about the vet - what a stupid comment! That's what scares me so
much about some vets, and many people get so terrified of FeLV, they even
think that they could get it - DUH! It's shameless! Maybe this is
something that cat rescue groups could use to educate the public on the free
AMEN!!
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From: Natalie
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 2:51 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Having two Feline Leukemia cats
I agree about the vet - what a stupid comment! That's what scares me so much
about some vets, and
Spicy tested positive with the ELISA test on June 11th. She is being re-tested
next Wednesday and I'm having the blood sent out this time. With the ELISA
test she was a strong positive the vet said. She seems perfectly healthy
except one of her eyes does run some days. She doesn't appear
I could join you on your soapbox. I think the cruelty and inhumane
treatment farm animals get is absolutely horrendous.
Lorrie
On 08-24, Marcia Baronda wrote:
I think that only one of Cargills slaughter houses uses her methods.
And Temple said in one of her books that she felt bad
On 08-24, Marcia Baronda wrote:
Fletch is exceptionally grouchy today. He swatted at one of the other
cats today and continually growls at me(-; I asked my vet about
retesting him and she said it's not necessary since he's already
cliically ill. I know after reading
On 08-24, Natalie wrote:
Welcome to 70 - I'll be 71 in December! Great age, isn't it?
It's great to know quite a few of you are in your 60's or 70's.
Now I don't feel quite so bad being 78.
Lorrie
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I don't have as much experience as others but I know cats can get grouchy when
they don't feel well. That's probably it.
Your vet is probably right about him having FeLV because he appears to be ill.
But, that's a probably, not a definite. It wouldn't hurt to re-test. Well
other than the
Maureen,
Would you mind responding to Marcia B's thread regarding her 1yr old just
diagnosed? You explain things so much better than I do!
L
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From: Maureen Olvey
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 5:27 PM
Subject: Re:
There are a lot of questions...and I wouldn't trust that vet as far as I
could throw him or her.
The type of blindness can be categorized by the appearance of the eyes, and
a regular vet can only be unspecific; in order to know exactly why a cat is
blind, an ophthalmologist must be seen.
Our
We lost another wonderful Black boy today. My Mooshy man was a big grumpy old
boy,but I sure loved him for almost 6 years. I will ALWAYS remember the first
time I got him to purr for me...I cried like a baby.He came into Sids just
after I started volunteering and I was determined to make that
Fletch was born with microphalmia,,one of his eyes was completely covered by
a membrane and the other one he had limited sight. From what I have read
some of these cats will go completely blind. And I can tell from the way he
is acting that he has gone blind. He Is afraid at every little move. I'm
I am so sorry - you haven't had much reprieve lately! Natalie
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Sherry DeHaan
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 8:56 PM
To: Felvtalk
Subject: [Felvtalk] Mooshu Please add to the CLS :(
We
I just got here but I want to say I'm so sorry. They know we love them, you
can see it in their eyes and the way they come to us for help. Again, I'm
sorry.
The paragraph at the bottom of you email is so true. I'm sending it to my
daughters.
Take care
Marcia
On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 7:55 PM,
Oh Sherry! I'm so sorry! Thanks for sharing the bond the two of you had. I bet
he was not as grumpy as he wanted you to think. So glad he had you and it's
obvious that he knew you loved him. That's all that matters. Hugs~
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From: Sherry DeHaan
To: Felvtalk
Anyone who abuses animals and children and seniors deserves a swift kick in the
. I have no patience with them and really don't give a d--- if they don't
like it.
I have never been asked to serve on a jury in a case of animal, child, senior
abuse or drug charges. When asked if I have an
Why did she take them inside in the firstplace? Maybe she should be orced to
sit inside the trailer along with the horses.
katskat1 katsk...@gmail.com wrote:
I will be 63 next month and I have been telling people off about
animals for several years now.
Just did it yesterday to a
Gee! Now you got me started on another topic. Speaking of Homer's
Odyssey, I recently rescued a kitten less than 5 weeks old. Eyes and
nose all gooey. Siblings either run over or died shortly after being
taken off the road. The person who rescued her called me cause she
knew I was a cat
I LOVE STRONG WOMEN!!
On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 10:02 PM, dlg...@windstream.net wrote:
Anyone who abuses animals and children and seniors deserves a swift kick in
the . I have no patience with them and really don't give a d--- if they
don't like it.
I have never been asked to serve on a
You didn't have to tell him, he knew by your actions and the sound of your
voice. Don't ever second guess yourself and wonder what if or did I.
Sherry DeHaan sherryd...@yahoo.com wrote:
We lost another wonderful Black boy today. My Mooshy man was a big grumpy old
boy,but I sure loved
What a great story! See, it's these wonderful experiences we have with cats
that make us do it over and over even though sometimes we feel devastated
over our losses, we know, I think each and every one of us that we are here
to take care of them.
I guess I am going to have to read that book
I definetly would ask more questions. If the vet is not happy with that then
maybe it is time to search for one who will welcome your interest in Fletch's
health. My vet encourages questions and any input I may have as to treatment.
I even introduced him to this group. He monitors the posts
How could you nt be hers for life! And to think that if te took her to ASPCA
or humane society, she would have been considered un adoptable and put to
sleep. Bless that lady for bringing her to you. Now she has a chance at life.
Give her a hug for me and give yourself one too, you deserve
OKAY, the vet gav yu a reason, he is off the hook.
Marcia Baronda marciabmar...@gmail.com wrote:
Fletch was born with microphalmia,,one of his eyes was completely covered by
a membrane and the other one he had limited sight. From what I have read
some of these cats will go completely
No wonder he is grouchy, being blind is enough to scare anyone! My Nitnoy is
real touchy about being startled and approached from behind because a raccoon
chopped her tail down to 3. Things like that tend to make people/cats jumpy
and grouchy.
Marcia Baronda marciabmar...@gmail.com
We need people who get on a soapbox to keep the opressors from getting out of
hand. We cannot afford to sit by and let cruelty happen. If we do, then
someday it will happen to us.
Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com wrote:
I could join you on your soapbox. I think the cruelty and inhumane
Get Spicy settled in and be sure your other cats are vaccinated and then you
can introduce them to each other. I have 2 fev positive cats and 7 negative
cats and no problems. They have been together for over 2 years now. I would
like t meet your vet and give him/her a piece of my mind. My
I liked that movie, it had alot of good things in it. I would have jumped in
fr the calf too and I would have brought it home to.
Gloria Lane gbl...@aristotle.net wrote:
Sounds good to me!
Sent from my iPhone
On Aug 24, 2011, at 10:47 AM, Marcia Baronda marciabmar...@gmail.com
SURE IS!
Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote:
Welcome to 70 - I'll be 71 in December! Great age, isn't it?
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of D.S.Louis
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 10:02 AM
To:
That is why I get mine from my vet not some mail order source or online.
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tHANK you for stating it so well. I especially agree with the last part!
Maureen Olvey molvey...@hotmail.com wrote:
It's such a strange an unpredictable disease and it seems like the more vets
and researchers learn the more they realize that they don't know about
Sherry
I'm so sorry to hear you lost Mooshu. I know grumpy cats -- and god bless
them! They usually have good reason. I'm sure your Mooshu knew you cared,
and he purred his gratitude.
May you both find peace.
Bonnie
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