Re: [Finale] OT Contemporary music and anti-intellectualism [was: Happy 250th Birthday Mozart]
On 1/29/06, Carl Dershem [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dizzy's usually ranges from $7-12 a ticket, and has very good entertainment. Dizzy's can be even better than that... I've never been there, but apparently there are nights when all you have to do is bring your horn and sit in for a few tunes and the cover charge will be waived. And what's better entertainment than getting to participate? -- Brad Beyenhof Real-time Finale discussion: http://www.finaleirc.com my blog: http://augmentedfourth.blogspot.com Silence will save me from being wrong (and foolish), but it will also deprive me of the possibility of being right. ~ Igor Stravinsky ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] rulers
On 1/29/06, Cecil Rigby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: just wondering--- Why is it that when I view at 75% the rulers have inches that are correct, but at 100% view inches are one and five-eighths long? It's obvious the length is relative to view, but one would expect an inch to be the right length at 100% view, no? It's all a function of your monitor size and screen resolution. The rulers you see in Finale are actually a certain number of *pixels* wide. If you've got a 19 monitor at 1280x960 resolution, a ruler inch at 100% is smaller than an actual inch. Programmers don't write code that automatically measures your screen and resolution to give you perfect inches (these factors are wildly variable, so writing such code is likely a waste of programming resources). That's the reason for allowing custom zoom percentages. Disclaimer: I am not a programmer, but this is how I understand the situation... real programmers, feel free to correct me. -- Brad Beyenhof Real-time Finale discussion: http://www.finaleirc.com my blog: http://augmentedfourth.blogspot.com Silence will save me from being wrong (and foolish), but it will also deprive me of the possibility of being right. ~ Igor Stravinsky ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] verses
On 1/27/06, dc [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How many verses can one put under a vocal line without confusing the singer? I'm doing an Italian piece with no less than 10 verses. How many should I keep under the music? And then, what do I do with the others? Add the text only after the music? Repeat the music with new text? Disclaimer: I am not a singer. It's my opinion that 5, or 6 at a stretch, is about as many verses as can be comfortably read under a single line. If there are more than that, it depends on the length of the piece. if it's relatively short, put 4 verses only below the music and then include verses 5 to the end in short paragraphs at the end of the piece (like you might see in a hymnal). If it's longer I can't say what would be best, but you might try writing out the repeat once and putting 5 verses under each iteration. Just my 2c... -- Brad Beyenhof Real-time Finale discussion: http://www.finaleirc.com my blog: http://augmentedfourth.blogspot.com Silence will save me from being wrong (and foolish), but it will also deprive me of the possibility of being right. ~ Igor Stravinsky ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Re: A questions about file updates
On 1/27/06, David Froom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But to get to the Finalescript box, don't you have to have a Finale file open already, and get to it through the Plugins/misc menu? Nope, the Finalescript Pallette is able to be opened even when no documents are open. One last question: since his files are analytic in nature (Schenker graphs and the like, and who knows which of the multiple means he used to position notes), maybe we should leave out note-spacing? That could mess up far more than it fixes. Yes. As I said, the lock systems and note spacing lines are optional. But does anyone know if you can just drag a Petrucci suitcase of screen fonts and a Petru ps file into the System/Library/Fonts folder? I guess he's got nothing to lose by trying that first. Definitely. If he doesn't mind the appearance of Petrucci, this should certainly be the first choice. Then he can just run a Finalescript that opens the files and saves them with something appended to the filename. This way, he'll have a set of files that won't have to be converted every time he opens them to print them out or edit them. -- Brad Beyenhof Real-time Finale discussion: http://www.finaleirc.com my blog: http://augmentedfourth.blogspot.com Silence will save me from being wrong (and foolish), but it will also deprive me of the possibility of being right. ~ Igor Stravinsky ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] slurs system breaks
On 1/27/06, Johannes Gebauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I meant, does this command have any effect on any smart shapes? Sure it does. Keep Horizontal straightens out hairpins and all smart lines. It might be harder to realize that this is necessary if you've got automatically constrain dragging turned on in the Program Options (like I do), since there's little chance that you'll actually end up with a line or hairpin that's *not* horizontal. If you're resizing a Smart Line with auto-constrain turned off, there's a large chance that it will not be perfectly horizontal, and this feature snaps it back to be parallel to the staff lines. -- Brad Beyenhof Real-time Finale discussion: http://www.finaleirc.com my blog: http://augmentedfourth.blogspot.com Silence will save me from being wrong (and foolish), but it will also deprive me of the possibility of being right. ~ Igor Stravinsky ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Happy 250th Birthday Mozart
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060127/ap_on_en_mu/music_mozart_birthday On 1/27/06, Barbara Touburg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: He's all over the radio today, I'm very happy. Kim Patrick Clow wrote: At the risk of overstating the obvious (and a wee bit off topic), I wanted to wish everyone on the list a Happy Mozart's Birthday (250th to be precise). His music was my first exposure to classical music over 25 years ago. My love of Mozart hasn't diminished at all. In fact, I can't imagine the art of music, without thinking of Mozart. I wish all of you a great day! K. Patrick Clow ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] A question about file updates
On 1/27/06, dc [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: David Froom écrit: I have a colleague who has a lot of files made in Finale 98 on an OS9 old Mac. He just got FinMac 2006 on a new iBook with 10.4.4. The old files had Petrucci as default font. I showed him how to change the default font, one file at a time, to Maestro or Engraver. But 1) is there a better of faster way to do this? Batch treatment with Finalescript. That Finalescript should read: batch process folder //process subdirectories music font fontname lock systems note spacing save and append _2k6 close Next, just place all of the desired files in a folder (if some of the files are in subfolders of that folder, remove the // from the second line to process all files in the folder tree) and select that folder as the batch folder-- third button from the right in the inalescript pallette. Put the desired font in place of fontname and keep the quotes. Lock systems and note spacing are optional. I include them since changing the music font can mess up spacing, so these steps will make sure that measures-per-system remain the same but new spacing is applied to account for the change in noteheads. The next line saves the file with a new name (it adds _2k6 before the .mus) so that the original files are untouched, and then the file is closed and the next is opened. I would definitely recommend making a backup of all files before running the script on them, just in case anything untoward happens by chance. Hope this helps! -- Brad Beyenhof Real-time Finale discussion: http://www.finaleirc.com my blog: http://augmentedfourth.blogspot.com Silence will save me from being wrong (and foolish), but it will also deprive me of the possibility of being right. ~ Igor Stravinsky ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] A question about file updates
On 1/27/06, Brad Beyenhof [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 1/27/06, dc [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: David Froom écrit: I have a colleague who has a lot of files made in Finale 98 on an OS9 old Mac. He just got FinMac 2006 on a new iBook with 10.4.4. The old files had Petrucci as default font. I showed him how to change the default font, one file at a time, to Maestro or Engraver. But 1) is there a better of faster way to do this? Batch treatment with Finalescript. That Finalescript should read: Oh, and by the way... make sure he updates to 2006c (at least) before processing the files. -- Brad Beyenhof Real-time Finale discussion: http://www.finaleirc.com my blog: http://augmentedfourth.blogspot.com Silence will save me from being wrong (and foolish), but it will also deprive me of the possibility of being right. ~ Igor Stravinsky ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Traffic
On 1/25/06, Christopher Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So this is done in pencil (or pen!) and you get the physical pieces of paper marked up from the composer? This is how I've always done it, too, but it sure would be great to have a way of marking up electronically, as Microsoft Word does, so that the proofs could just be sent back over the Internet. Scanning and faxing lose detail and colour, if someone uses coloured pens as most of my clients do. I suppose musical notation stickies would be just too complex... I've been toying with the idea of using a MusicPad Pro from Freehand Systems for this sort of thing... you should be able to import PDFs into it, write notes and corrections on it, and then use a print to PDF function to get the edits into another file without ever having to print anything out. However, this would work best on projects on which I'm just the editor, because if I wanted to *receive* corrections this way I'd have to make sure the composer or editor had one of these devices. http://freehandsystems.com -- Brad Beyenhof Real-time Finale discussion: http://www.finaleirc.com my blog: http://augmentedfourth.blogspot.com Silence will save me from being wrong (and foolish), but it will also deprive me of the possibility of being right. ~ Igor Stravinsky ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Time signature question
On 1/21/06, Éric Dussault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Le 06-01-21 à 06:21, dhbailey a écrit : If you're just placing the two meters beside each other at the start of the work, how will anybody know when a measure is supposed to get the 3/4 feeling instead of hemiolas in 6/8? With both meters allowing 6 8th notes (or 3 quarter notes) it may not be immediately obvious in measures other than ones full of 8th notes where you can show the meter with the beaming. When beaming correctly in 3/4 and 6/8 measure, it should be obvious in which of the two he is. Following Ted Ross-like rules for beaming and rests should make it clear. Yes, but what if there are no beams (a half note and a quarter note, for example)? Also, Finale might make it difficult to ensure correct beaming, since it will alternate its default beaming between 6/8 and 3/4 in each subsequent measure. That's what adding timesigs together is supposed to denote. -- Brad Beyenhof Real-time Finale discussion: http://www.finaleirc.com my blog: http://augmentedfourth.blogspot.com Silence will save me from being wrong (and foolish), but it will also deprive me of the possibility of being right. ~ Igor Stravinsky ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Time signature question
On 1/21/06, Christopher Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jan 21, 2006, at 11:22 AM, Brad Beyenhof wrote: Yes, but what if there are no beams (a half note and a quarter note, for example)? How would your example be performed differently in 6/8 or 3/4? However, the notation of it looks like 3/4 to me, and in 6/8 should probably be dotted quarter tied to eighth, quarter note, which would adequately denote the intended subdivision. Yes, I'll admit that that was a silly example, since it can easily be adapted to make either signature clear. What about a dotted half? Also, Finale might make it difficult to ensure correct beaming, since it will alternate its default beaming between 6/8 and 3/4 in each subsequent measure. That's what adding timesigs together is supposed to denote. I don't get this. If you have set Finale to alternate measures of 6/8 and 3/4, but to always show as (whatever you chose), then beaming will occur automatically to the time signature unless you manually override it. Isn't that what is wanted? That's the thing... Don is adapting the 6/8 + 3/4 signature to show as 6/8 (3/4). However, there's still the underlying signature addition that means that the default beaming will alternate between the two. He has indicated that it's not a strict measure-after-measure alternation, though; the timesig changes are irregular. Carolyn offered a good suggestion to get around this: have show as always set to the modified 6/8 + 3/4 and keep the actual timesig for each section set for the proper beaming. -- Brad Beyenhof Real-time Finale discussion: http://www.finaleirc.com my blog: http://augmentedfourth.blogspot.com Silence will save me from being wrong (and foolish), but it will also deprive me of the possibility of being right. ~ Igor Stravinsky ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Time signature question
On 1/21/06, dhbailey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am I misunderstanding the process? Is there really a way to enter the two different meters and have Finale automatically switch beaming between alternating measures? Seems I was misremembering with the alternation thing. In any case, giving the timesig for beaming as the real one, with show as set to the modified 6/8 + 3/4 is certainly a solution that will display properly. -- Brad Beyenhof Real-time Finale discussion: http://www.finaleirc.com my blog: http://augmentedfourth.blogspot.com Silence will save me from being wrong (and foolish), but it will also deprive me of the possibility of being right. ~ Igor Stravinsky ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Time signature question
On 1/21/06, Owain Sutton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: David W. Fenton wrote: On 21 Jan 2006 at 9:19, Brad Beyenhof wrote: Yes, I'll admit that that was a silly example, since it can easily be adapted to make either signature clear. What about a dotted half? This is a ludicrous question, seems to me, because there's no way whatsoever for a performer to perform a dotted half in 3/4 in a way that sounds rhythmically different from the same value in 6/8. I wasn't implying that there would be any difference in how it would be performed. However, the performers would probably like to be notified in some way whether the conductor will split that measure into 2 or 3 beats. It's bloody ridiculous to imagine that such a difference could possibly make a difference, but if you really wanted to make it clear, you'd tie two dotted quarter notes. But I expect most performers would think you were nuts. I fully agree. Otherwise the argument suggests we should eliminate 2/2, because there's no way to make a semibreve sound different to one in 4/4. Not at all; see my comments above. The only reason for even considering this is that, since the piece in question is alternately in 6/8 and 3/4, a dotted half note is ambiguous to a person reading only one part and they won't know what to expect from the conductor. I'm not suggesting that anything different needs to be done. I'm sure in many cases that a dotted half on its own would be sufficient; however, I just meant to provoke thought upon the matter. It is certainly unwarranted to say that suggesting the composer consider such issues is bloody ridiculous, and I'm sure there are certain rare situations in which it might not be bloody obvious. -- Brad Beyenhof Real-time Finale discussion: http://www.finaleirc.com my blog: http://augmentedfourth.blogspot.com Silence will save me from being wrong (and foolish), but it will also deprive me of the possibility of being right. ~ Igor Stravinsky ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Time signature question
On 1/21/06, Owain Sutton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Brad Beyenhof wrote: On 1/21/06, Owain Sutton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: David W. Fenton wrote: On 21 Jan 2006 at 9:19, Brad Beyenhof wrote: Yes, I'll admit that that was a silly example, since it can easily be adapted to make either signature clear. What about a dotted half? This is a ludicrous question, seems to me, because there's no way whatsoever for a performer to perform a dotted half in 3/4 in a way that sounds rhythmically different from the same value in 6/8. I wasn't implying that there would be any difference in how it would be performed. However, the performers would probably like to be notified in some way whether the conductor will split that measure into 2 or 3 beats. What, you want Boulez-style indications over every sustained note? If there's a regular alternation between 6/8 and 3/4, then a trained monkey could probably understand what the conductor was doing. Or, come to think of it, a trained monkey could conduct it But we're *not* talking about regular alterations here. Also, if you had taken the time to read my entire message, you would have known that I had said that a dotted half note could very likely be fine all on its own. I was just presenting it as a point to consider; I wasn't trying to get anybody to change anything. -- Brad Beyenhof Real-time Finale discussion: http://www.finaleirc.com my blog: http://augmentedfourth.blogspot.com Silence will save me from being wrong (and foolish), but it will also deprive me of the possibility of being right. ~ Igor Stravinsky ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Fin2007 to be Universal Binary
On 1/19/06, Johannes Gebauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just cannot understand why they didn't do this about 3 months ago, but then the mysteries of company decisions are not always comprehensible to me. Well, the official date for the release of Intel Macs was this June. Some have speculated that all of the rumors of Apple offering the new Intel machines earlier than that forced their hand and made them release the hardware before they originally had intended to do so. If MakeMusic! was aiming to have a Universal Binary for the *scheduled* launch, it would have been just in time with this year's usual update cycle. Some analysts say that this is the same reason that Universal Binaries of Apple's Pro apps aren't available at the same time as the new hardware. -- Brad Beyenhof Real-time Finale discussion: http://www.finaleirc.com my blog: http://augmentedfourth.blogspot.com Silence will save me from being wrong (and foolish), but it will also deprive me of the possibility of being right. ~ Igor Stravinsky ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] RE: Right-Only and Left-Only don't work with Page Range
On 1/17/06, Darcy James Argue [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 17 Jan 2006, at 8:01 PM, dhbailey wrote: Why are you putting such a page range in the Page Ranges spot? Because on the Mac, the From: and To: panels are on a completely different pane of the Print dialog box. You have to make a different choice from the pull-down menu to access that setting. But you have to change panes anyway, right? Copies and Pages is always the first pane to show up (at least on my systems), so you could specify the page range there before you even go over to the Finale 2006 pane. -- Brad Beyenhof Real-time Finale discussion: http://www.finaleirc.com my blog: http://augmentedfourth.blogspot.com Silence will save me from being wrong (and foolish), but it will also deprive me of the possibility of being right. ~ Igor Stravinsky ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Current Date
On 1/15/06, George Galway [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm trying to enter the current date in a file (fin 2005) windows XP, when I select Text – Inserts, I find all choices are 'grayed out' My question is: how can I select the 'current date' ? Can anyone please help? Many Thanks, When you're in the Text tool, you need to double-click somewhere to create a new text box before you can insert the date into it. -- Brad Beyenhof Real-time Finale discussion: http://www.finaleirc.com my blog: http://augmentedfourth.blogspot.com Silence will save me from being wrong (and foolish), but it will also deprive me of the possibility of being right. ~ Igor Stravinsky ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Solo Oboe
On 1/8/06, Richard Yates [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone else feel that the solo oboe in Finale's Garritan has intonation problems? Maybe the rest of the Garritan orchestra should tune to the oboe that's how it works in real life isn't it? Q: How do you make an oboist play A flat? A: Steal the batteries from his electronic tuner. -- Brad Beyenhof Real-time Finale discussion: http://www.finaleirc.com my blog: http://augmentedfourth.blogspot.com Silence will save me from being wrong (and foolish), but it will also deprive me of the possibility of being right. ~ Igor Stravinsky ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] The Perfect Slur
On 1/6/06, Kim Patrick Clow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I spend a lot of time tweaking slurs in string runs. Is there a way just to copy and paste the slur onto the next series of notes, to keep everything consistent looking, versus re-inventing the wheel everytime I need a slur? Sounds like a prime candidate for either SmartFind and Paint or Robert Patterson's Mass Copy plug-in (download and purchase from robertgpatterson.com ). I haven't used the SmartFind feature, but there are couple of pages about it in the Mass Edit chapter of the manual. Mass Copy I *have* used, and found it to work very well; documentation can be found on the website. -- Brad Beyenhof Real-time Finale discussion: http://www.finaleirc.com my blog: http://augmentedfourth.blogspot.com Silence will save me from being wrong (and foolish), but it will also deprive me of the possibility of being right. ~ Igor Stravinsky ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Techniques for creating a single Finale document withmultiple mo...
On 1/7/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 07/01/2006 05:43:57 GMT Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: 1. Use the Measure Tool to add one bar to the first movement. 2. Use the Mass Mover to highlight and copy the second movement. 3. Highlight the last bar of the first movement and use Insert from the Edit menu. Does this not just add the top line of the score? No; but you need to select the last bar of *all staves* in step 3 above. This is accomplished by double-clicking the last bar of any staff. -- Brad Beyenhof Real-time Finale discussion: http://www.finaleirc.com my blog: http://augmentedfourth.blogspot.com Silence will save me from being wrong (and foolish), but it will also deprive me of the possibility of being right. ~ Igor Stravinsky ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Techniques for creating a single Finale document withmultiple mo...
On 1/7/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Brad, Thank you, thank you! No problem; that's why this list is here. In fact, it's also the reason the IRC channel exists... you might have gotten an answer there even quicker than the half-hour it took here by email. http://www.finaleirc.com -- Brad Beyenhof Real-time Finale discussion: http://www.finaleirc.com my blog: http://augmentedfourth.blogspot.com Silence will save me from being wrong (and foolish), but it will also deprive me of the possibility of being right. ~ Igor Stravinsky ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Re: RTFM, no. It shouldn't be, necessary.
On 1/7/06, Eric Dannewitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The things I use a lot are Music Spacing, and respell notes, and Fit Music. Fit music has a key command associated with it, but the others you have to go into the menu and find. That's not true for Music Spacing-- You can select a passage in the Mass Edit tool, and hit the '3' key to apply Beat Spacing or the '4' key to appy Note Spacing. -- Brad Beyenhof Real-time Finale discussion: http://www.finaleirc.com my blog: http://augmentedfourth.blogspot.com Silence will save me from being wrong (and foolish), but it will also deprive me of the possibility of being right. ~ Igor Stravinsky ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Re: RTFM, no. It shouldn't be necessary.
On 1/6/06, Dennis Bathory-Kitsz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Transposition with expanded options. Canonic utilities with expanded options. Hmmm... and suddenly, there is the idea for a new item that covers both (discoverable from multiple paths) that is a linear motion modification activity. [Transposition, Doubling, Parallel Motion, Canonic Utilities] is essentially one palette of options dealing with the many ways of displacing pitches while maintaining their melodic contour. I think that's an excellent idea. However, the problem with doing a UI overhaul is that certain people are already used to the musically illogical placement of features.. we noticed the problem when Show Active Layer Only changed menus from from View to Options. If features were totally rearranged, there would be no end of support requests from people who just use a few features, and know where they are, but don't know the rest of the program that well. Even if these changes made all the sense in the world, they could and would be terribly confusing to users of earlier versions. I'm not saying that there should be no search for a way to make all those menus and dialogs more independently discoverable, but that any such venture should be undertaken with a great deal of thought and consideration for its ramifications. -- Brad Beyenhof Real-time Finale discussion: http://www.finaleirc.com my blog: http://augmentedfourth.blogspot.com Silence will save me from being wrong (and foolish), but it will also deprive me of the possibility of being right. ~ Igor Stravinsky ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Re: RTFM, no. It shouldn't be necessary.
On 1/6/06, David W. Fenton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 6 Jan 2006 at 9:19, Brad Beyenhof wrote: [T]he problem with doing a UI overhaul is that certain people are already used to the musically illogical placement of features.. To me, [this] looks like a commitment to the status quo, or mere stubbornness, or just wanting to argue. I am in no way just wanting to argue. Please read my entire message, and reply to it as a whole, rather than applying knee-jerk reactions to individual statements. I have agreed with Dennis that such a regrouping is a very good idea, but merely pointing out that it could create a nightmare for customer support. The assumption that *adding* a new approach always entails completely removing the old method is completely unwarranted. So you want to have Finale include incredibly bloated menus, with multiple ways to get to each of its plethora of features? . . . we noticed the problem when Show Active Layer Only changed menus from from View to Options. This is a completely different type of issue. No, it's not. I'm talking merely about the support ramifications for MakeMusic! when features' discovery paths get changed. And it seems to me that there oughtn't be any reason not to have such a menu choice in both locations. But if you follow that logic to its conclusion, you'll put discovery paths to each dialog in multiple locations that might seem equally useful. With every feature accessible from multiple places, there will be so many choices that *nothing* will be easy to find! If features were totally rearranged, . . . . Who has proposed that? I certainly haven't. Just giving an example of a possible scenario. . . . there would be no end of support requests from people who just use a few features, and know where they are, but don't know the rest of the program that well. Even if these changes made all the sense in the world, they could and would be terribly confusing to users of earlier versions. If MakeMusic ported Finale to Linux, would they still support Windows? I mean, some Windows users wouldn't find it easy switching to Linux, so they need to be accomodated somehow! How stupid does *that* sound? Pretty darn stupid. Because there is nothing in your hypothetical scenario that even approaches the situation I'm describing. I'm not saying that there should be no search for a way to make all those menus and dialogs more independently discoverable, but that any such venture should be undertaken with a great deal of thought and consideration for its ramifications. Well, I'm sure Dennis was proposing that such a revision be done in the most stupid and confusing way possible. That's certainly *my* thinking on the subject. I'm not in any way trying to imply that anybody so far has made any improper judgments or confusing suggestions. I'm merely pointing out the potential ramifications of feature discovery juggling. Don't assume that things people say are automatically atupid, David. Try to figure out where posters are coming from before making such assumptions and totally lambasting a point that hasn't even been made. -- Brad Beyenhof Real-time Finale discussion: http://www.finaleirc.com my blog: http://augmentedfourth.blogspot.com Silence will save me from being wrong (and foolish), but it will also deprive me of the possibility of being right. ~ Igor Stravinsky ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Re: RTFM, no. It shouldn't be necessary.
On 1/6/06, Owain Sutton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Brad Beyenhof wrote: [T]he problem with doing a UI overhaul is that certain people are already used to the musically illogical placement of features.. The assumption that *adding* a new approach always entails completely removing the old method is completely unwarranted. So you want to have Finale include incredibly bloated menus, with multiple ways to get to each of its plethora of features? Bloody hell! Either we do away with silly and obsolete and outdated menu options, risking the wrath of those who've got into the habit of finding the same tool in the same place since Finale '74, OR we're accused of encouraging bloat through adding extra items to the menu, OR we'd suggest a complete user-oriented overhaul of the interface (no, wait, we couldn't do that...) I'm not saying that any of those options is a good one or a bad one (personally, I'd go for the complete user-oriented overhaul); I'm just thinking about the ramifications of the various choices. -- Brad Beyenhof Real-time Finale discussion: http://www.finaleirc.com my blog: http://augmentedfourth.blogspot.com Silence will save me from being wrong (and foolish), but it will also deprive me of the possibility of being right. ~ Igor Stravinsky ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Re: RTFM, no. It shouldn't be necessary.
On 1/6/06, David W. Fenton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 6 Jan 2006 at 14:04, Brad Beyenhof wrote: On 1/6/06, David W. Fenton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And it seems to me that there oughtn't be any reason not to have such a menu choice in both locations. But if you follow that logic to its conclusion, you'll put discovery paths to each dialog in multiple locations that might seem equally useful. With every feature accessible from multiple places, there will be so many choices that *nothing* will be easy to find! I don't get it. I'm just saying that including a feature at multiple points in the menus will add to the number of choices in those menus, therefore requiring the user to look through more menu options while attemptng to find the desired function. Have you ever written software? Or designed a web page? I've not actually written software, but I've developed it (and left the actual coding to those who knew the language). And I've written a few simple web pages. Actually, that latter is a good one. Consider a CONTACT link on a web page. Most websites put it on every single page, and the link goes to a single page. Is that confusing? Of course not! What would be confusing was if you could only get to the CONTACT page by navigating to a single one of the many pages on a website. Yes, but the CONTACT link is generally in the same place on each page. The user can find it easily, and does not have to wade through a different group of options on each page to discover it. Some things belong in only one location, some work well in multiple contexts. I'm not disputing that. I'm just thinking out loud here; I haven't recommended or expressed preference for any one course of action. (Well, I suppose I just did in my reply to Owain, opting for the complete user-oriented overhaul.) I'm just thinking about the users, and their ease in discovering the options they need, and whether that ease (or lack thereof) has an effect on the number of support calls MakeMusic! has to field. I admit that a complete re-do of the UI has the potential to draw a great number of support requests, but it would almost be better to do it all at once than draw it out over a number of years. Again, I'm not arguing that anybody's approach here in UI redesign is wrongm just considering the ease-of-use resulting from the various options discussed. -- Brad Beyenhof Real-time Finale discussion: http://www.finaleirc.com my blog: http://augmentedfourth.blogspot.com Silence will save me from being wrong (and foolish), but it will also deprive me of the possibility of being right. ~ Igor Stravinsky ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] Community consultation; know your tools (was: RTFM, no. It shouldn't be necessary.)
Might I remind everyone (including David) that consulting a community like this is certainly a way to circumvent bad documentation and/or unintuitive UI? In less than 10 minutes from his original post, three people had responded with the correct information. Additionally, it is a very good idea to know your tools, and to explore them completely detached from any work you'll need to do with them. I've rarely (if ever) used Preserve Original Notes when transposing, but I knew it was there because I've spent a good deal of time pawing through the menus and dialogs of Finale just to know what's in them. You don't think a carpenter's training only involves him (or her) using a saw when he is actually building a table, do you? No; the carpenter-in-training uses the saw to cut random blocks of wood around the shop, just for the practice and to understand the use of his tools. Once the carpenter has reached a level of mastery, his first thought on encountering a problem is not to consult a book, but to remember what he knows through experience. It should be the same with us. If you've been using a tool professionally for any length of time, you should know what it's capable of (for the most part). I'm not claiming to understand every nook and cranny of Finale; I never will, nor do I want to. I'm also not saying that the UI doesn't need a redesign, but users of the current version should be relatively familiar with its workings but willing to ask for help when necessary. To be honest, this whole thread seems to have been started by David's annoyance that others knew better than he how to find a particular feature of the program. Sure it my be bad UI, but that doesn't mean that we should throw up our hands in disgust and refuse to accept the fact that this is the way it is. When consulting the list for assistance, we should take note of the solutions suggested and move on (a bit wiser, hopefully). If there's an easy way to do it of which we weren't previously aware, that does not give us license to rage on and on at each other and at the developers. I'm sorry for the length and I apologize if anybody is offended by these remarks; this reply has just been building up inside me for the last couple of days. Feel free to hit the DELETE key and move on... -- Brad Beyenhof Real-time Finale discussion: http://www.finaleirc.com my blog: http://augmentedfourth.blogspot.com Silence will save me from being wrong (and foolish), but it will also deprive me of the possibility of being right. ~ Igor Stravinsky ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Community consultation; know your tools (was: RTFM, no. It shouldn't be necessary.)
On 1/5/06, David W. Fenton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 5 Jan 2006 at 15:04, Brad Beyenhof wrote: To be honest, this whole thread seems to have been started by David's annoyance that others knew better than he how to find a particular feature of the program. . . . Excuse me? If you'll review the record, you'll see that I didn't get annoyed until individuals started defending Finale's shortcomings. Indeed, I was quite cordial in my response to the RTFM post. I apologize for this; it was a misremembering on my own part (and, in fact, mainly bein annoyed with some of the posters in the thread... particularly by some overtly hostile swearing). . . . If there's an easy way to do it of which we weren't previously aware, that does not give us license to rage on and on at each other and at the developers. Who is raging at each other or at the developers? I may be annoyed at someone's responses today, but I think his reaction to *me* is an order of magnitude more hostile than anything I raised in responses to his posts. This comment was in no way related to you, David. I refer again to the uncordial conduct displayed by others who took the usual intelligent discourse in this forum and fouled it up with unnecessary hateful language. Why are you responding in this fashion to what seems to me to have been a perfectly genial discussion until this afternoon when *someone else* chose to push the level of discourse into the trenches? I don't know what you mean by in this fashion, but please note that I included a disclaimer to the effect that I was merely venting my frustrations with the unyielding back-and-forth certain list members were having. I was not pointing a finger at you, David (except in one sentence for which I have apologized above), but merely being appalled at the hostility being demonstrated by certain list members that is in no way warranted in this sort of forum. Again, I apologize for any offense; my previous message was fairly hastily written and I got one of my more important facts wrong. The fact still remains that the level of disagreement has surely gotten out of hand through the course of the thread, and it is this that has made me as exasperated as I currently am. -- Brad Beyenhof Real-time Finale discussion: http://www.finaleirc.com my blog: http://augmentedfourth.blogspot.com Silence will save me from being wrong (and foolish), but it will also deprive me of the possibility of being right. ~ Igor Stravinsky ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Sibelius 4 and other oddities
On 1/5/06, Raymond Horton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't think it looks bad at all! If this is a representative sample: http://www.amazon.com/gp/reader/0793525276/ref=sib_dp_pt/002-3769536-0433605#reader-page I'm amazed that you could output something that nice on such humble hardware! (They look like nice charts. too.) Me too... it looks great for the computing power you were dealing with. Oddly, that output reminds me very much of what I used to get from MusicTime Deluxe (my first notation software!). Does anyone know if that Music Construction Set is in any way related to MusicTime? -- Brad Beyenhof Real-time Finale discussion: http://www.finaleirc.com my blog: http://augmentedfourth.blogspot.com Silence will save me from being wrong (and foolish), but it will also deprive me of the possibility of being right. ~ Igor Stravinsky ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Re: RTFM
On 1/4/06, Eric Dannewitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The one thing I'd like is to MakeMusic to offer a PRINTED manual at a reasonable price. I find the online manual a pain sometimes. But the content and the indexing is one of the best I've come across in software. They will print and bind the entire PDF manual for you for $20 or $30 (I don't remember the cost exactly) if you call and request it. I did this for Finale 2004, and it was definitely worth it. -- Brad Beyenhof Real-time Finale discussion: http://www.finaleirc.com my blog: http://augmentedfourth.blogspot.com Silence will save me from being wrong (and foolish), but it will also deprive me of the possibility of being right. ~ Igor Stravinsky ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Reverse Piano Reduction (sort of)
On 1/3/06, David W. Fenton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there some simple way to do this with some of the tools Finale provides? I ended up putting the octaves by hand, which was pretty tedious. Yes... just use the Transpose function from Mass Edit, and check Preserve Original Notes. This will keep the originals, and add in the transposition at the octave. I have no idea if this function exists in Fin2003, though... I'm not sure when it was added. -- Brad Beyenhof Real-time Finale discussion: http://www.finaleirc.com my blog: http://augmentedfourth.blogspot.com Silence will save me from being wrong (and foolish), but it will also deprive me of the possibility of being right. ~ Igor Stravinsky ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] bulk multimeasure update?
Well, it's possible to open the Page Setup for each file in sequence with this script: batch process folder execute menu item page setup save close Granted, you will have to manually make the change to each file, but you won't have to manually open the dialog box, or manually open the files. The script will be paused until you click OK in the dialog, so you can do as many changes as you need to each file's Page Setup. (Credit for this script goes to Karen Guthery) -- Brad Beyenhof Real-time Finale discussion: http://www.finaleirc.com my blog: http://augmentedfourth.blogspot.com Silence will save me from being wrong (and foolish), but it will also deprive me of the possibility of being right. ~ Igor Stravinsky On 12/29/05, Javier Ruiz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No way, this is not accessible from FinaleScript. I had to do it by hand in 600 files! And how about the Page Setup dialog? Andrew Stiller Kallisti Music Press http://home.netcom.com/~kallisti/ ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] Remove Spotlight from OSX10.4 Menu (was: Finale EPS graphics in MS Word)
On 12/28/05, Johannes Gebauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (And if any MacOS X geeks read this, how on earth do you turn off the Spotlight icon in the menu bar, preferably while retaining some search ability? This thing is wasting my menu space!) There's an article at MacOSXhints about this: http://www.macosxhints.com/article.php?story=20050430210248363 It will disable the use of Spotlight as its own application, but you will still be able to perform Spotlight searches via Finder windows. Also, you can use Quicksilver to perform on-demand search (not as extensive as Spotlight, but still very useful as an app launcher). -- Brad Beyenhof Real-time Finale discussion: http://www.finaleirc.com my blog: http://augmentedfourth.blogspot.com Silence will save me from being wrong (and foolish), but it will also deprive me of the possibility of being right. ~ Igor Stravinsky ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Best macro program?
I actually use both (QuicKeys in the office and iKey at home), and they both do the trick. QuicKeys is better for programming multi-step macros, and it can even create macros that take user input while they run. iKey does just fine for menu selection and such, and multi-step macros work fine, but it doesn't seem quite as full-featured or as polished, but I suppose you get what you pay for. Also, I use iKey 1.7 still, because it does what I need it to and I was a bit unnerved by certain reports of upgrading to iKey 2. -- Brad Beyenhof Real-time Finale discussion: http://www.finaleirc.com my blog: http://augmentedfourth.blogspot.com Silence will save me from being wrong (and foolish), but it will also deprive me of the possibility of being right. ~ Igor Stravinsky On 12/26/05, Chuck Israels [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I use QuicKeys, and it works for me. I have no experience with iKey, though Darcy and Hiro seem to like it. Chuck On Dec 26, 2005, at 8:23 PM, Don Hart wrote: Has any sort of consensus been reached concerning the best OSX macro program to use with Finale? I've seen the various pitfalls of Quickeys and iKey discussed here before but wasn't sure what if anything had been fixed or improved. I used Quickeys before OSX and have been doing without for a while. I'm in a project now where I think a program could help out considerably. I'm using Finale '05 but own '06 and hope to start using it after I finish this project. I also own Tiger, but am still using 10.3.9 and would like to make that switch as well. Thanks, Don Hart ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale Chuck Israels 230 North Garden Terrace Bellingham, WA 98225-5836 phone (360) 671-3402 fax (360) 676-6055 www.chuckisraels.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Best macro program?
On 12/26/05, Don Hart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Did you use QuicKeys before OSX? If so, are there any significant differences between what you used before and the version you have now, good or bad? I did use QuicKeys in OS9, and I don't remember any significant differences when I switched over to OSX. -- Brad Beyenhof Real-time Finale discussion: http://www.finaleirc.com my blog: http://augmentedfourth.blogspot.com Silence will save me from being wrong (and foolish), but it will also deprive me of the possibility of being right. ~ Igor Stravinsky ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Dealing with parts
On 12/21/05, Dean M. Estabrook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Question: do I have to do all of these operations individually to each part (file), or is there a way to do it to one and carry the changes across to all the others? Using Mac 2006b. The easiest way to do this is to use Robert Patterson's Settings Scrapbook plug-in. Just perform the necessary changes to one part and it should be able to propagate them to all the others. Or else you could write a FinaleScript to perform the necessary changes, but this is more difficult and there's no guarantee that all of the operations you need to perform are scriptable. -- Brad Beyenhof Real-time Finale discussion: http://www.finaleirc.com my blog: http://augmentedfourth.blogspot.com Silence will save me from being wrong (and foolish), but it will also deprive me of the possibility of being right. ~ Igor Stravinsky ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Dealing with parts
On 12/21/05, Dean M. Estabrook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Dec 21, 2005, at 8:35 AM, Brad Beyenhof wrote: On 12/21/05, Dean M. Estabrook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Question: do I have to do all of these operations individually to each part (file), or is there a way to do it to one and carry the changes across to all the others? Using Mac 2006b. The easiest way to do this is to use Robert Patterson's Settings Scrapbook plug-in. Thanks Brad. Where does one access the Settings Scrapbook? Robert's plug-ins are available at http://robertgpatterson.com. They are free to try, but they are worth every penny of the $59 price. Mass Copy alone has saved me enough time to make this a good investment. -- Brad Beyenhof Real-time Finale discussion: http://www.finaleirc.com my blog: http://augmentedfourth.blogspot.com Silence will save me from being wrong (and foolish), but it will also deprive me of the possibility of being right. ~ Igor Stravinsky ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Dealing with parts
Actually, Dean, if you haven't done much work on the files since extraction I would very much recommend creating a separate Parts score as Johannes suggested. I was under the impression that you had already done some work on the files individually and didn't want to have to re-extract. If this is not an issue, a new Parts score is what I always use to change sizes and such for the parts. -- Brad Beyenhof Real-time Finale discussion: http://www.finaleirc.com my blog: http://augmentedfourth.blogspot.com Silence will save me from being wrong (and foolish), but it will also deprive me of the possibility of being right. ~ Igor Stravinsky On 12/21/05, Dean M. Estabrook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Many Thanks. Dean On Dec 21, 2005, at 9:05 AM, Brad Beyenhof wrote: On 12/21/05, Dean M. Estabrook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Dec 21, 2005, at 8:35 AM, Brad Beyenhof wrote: On 12/21/05, Dean M. Estabrook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Question: do I have to do all of these operations individually to each part (file), or is there a way to do it to one and carry the changes across to all the others? Using Mac 2006b. The easiest way to do this is to use Robert Patterson's Settings Scrapbook plug-in. Thanks Brad. Where does one access the Settings Scrapbook? Robert's plug-ins are available at http://robertgpatterson.com. They are free to try, but they are worth every penny of the $59 price. Mass Copy alone has saved me enough time to make this a good investment. -- Brad Beyenhof Real-time Finale discussion: http://www.finaleirc.com my blog: http://augmentedfourth.blogspot.com Silence will save me from being wrong (and foolish), but it will also deprive me of the possibility of being right. ~ Igor Stravinsky ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Dealing with parts
On 12/21/05, David W. Fenton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What aspects of layout are fixed by forking the file before you extract parts? Not layout per se, but certain things like the size of measure numbers (or measure-expression rehearsal letters/numbers) or the inclusion of measure number regions to be displayed on staves can be solved this way. Most of the work I do requires all measure numbers to be displayed on the parts, so I change the Staff Attributes to display measure numbers on all staves of the Parts score before I extract. This same work also calls for fixed point sizes for rehearsal numbers, so I have to manually enlarge them instead of allowing them to be proportionally resized in the extraction process. Once I extract the parts I can safely ignore the Parts score and work from then on with just the original score when making corrections and changes. However, creating a separate score just for extraction has always made things much easier. -- Brad Beyenhof Real-time Finale discussion: http://www.finaleirc.com my blog: http://augmentedfourth.blogspot.com Silence will save me from being wrong (and foolish), but it will also deprive me of the possibility of being right. ~ Igor Stravinsky ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Dealing with parts
On 12/21/05, Robert Patterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What aspects of layout are fixed by forking the file before you extract parts? Item #4 (Miscellaneous) may include stuff like moving the titles on page 1 (and/or global titles) to match what you want in each part. For me, quite often, the placement of page 1 titles in the score bears only passing resemblance to that for parts. It's a nuisance to move them around separately in each part. In my earlier reply I neglected to mention this, which is a big issue for me as well. -- Brad Beyenhof Real-time Finale discussion: http://www.finaleirc.com my blog: http://augmentedfourth.blogspot.com Silence will save me from being wrong (and foolish), but it will also deprive me of the possibility of being right. ~ Igor Stravinsky ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Dealing with parts
It's part of TGTools: http://tgtools.com This, and the Patterson Plug-ins, are (in my opinion) necessary for serious engraving work. -- Brad Beyenhof Real-time Finale discussion: http://www.finaleirc.com my blog: http://augmentedfourth.blogspot.com Silence will save me from being wrong (and foolish), but it will also deprive me of the possibility of being right. ~ Igor Stravinsky On 12/21/05, Dean M. Estabrook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: BTW, I've looked all over in my Mac2k6, and have not been able to find Smart Explosion, of which you speak. What is it, and where is it? Dean On Dec 21, 2005, at 2:42 PM, Lee Actor wrote: In addition to Brad's and Robert's examples, I'll add the following items which are much easier to deal with in an intermediate parts score: 1) font and position of measure numbers 2) position and format of page numbers 3) music spacing For me these are all different in the parts than they are in the score, and it's a lot less work to do these once in the extraction score than for each individual part. But by far the biggest factors for me in favor of an intermediate score are the TGTools Smart Explosion, and adding cues (I work mostly with large orchestral scores). Lee Actor Composer-in-Residence and Assistant Conductor, Palo Alto Philharmonic http://www.leeactor.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Robert Patterson In my earlier reply I neglected to mention this, which is a big issue for me as well. The examples Brad and I have given for using an intermediate (and temporary) copy of the score for part extraction seem to call into question the value of linked scores and parts. In theory I think linked scores and parts is a great idea. In practice I worry that no implementation (esp. within a single annual cycle) will be complete or flexible enough to be useful, other than as a hack. If that is the case, I hate to see MM neglect other kinds of enhancements that might be more immediately usable for a linked parts feature of dubious usefulness. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Finale 2006b is Available.
On 12/14/05, Darcy James Argue [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You can even delete your original Finale 2006 application to be certain you don't inadvertently launch Finale 2006 instead of Finale 2006b. What I usually do is use Stuffit to put the unused Finale version into a .sitx file, and then delete the application. This way I can easily get back to the old version if I somehow find the need to do so. In fact, I've currently done this with Finale 2006 on the computer in which it lags badly. This way no files get inadvertently opened up and converted. -- Brad Beyenhof Real-time Finale discussion: http://www.finaleirc.com my blog: http://augmentedfourth.blogspot.com Silence will save me from being wrong (and foolish), but it will also deprive me of the possibility of being right. ~ Igor Stravinsky ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Finale 2006b is Available.
Yes, it's free. The 2006b updater is available from http://finalemusic.com, like all other incremental updates MakeMusic! has offered. -- Brad Beyenhof Real-time Finale discussion: http://www.finaleirc.com my blog: http://augmentedfourth.blogspot.com Silence will save me from being wrong (and foolish), but it will also deprive me of the possibility of being right. ~ Igor Stravinsky On 12/13/05, Dean M. Estabrook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is it free? How does one get it? Dean On Dec 13, 2005, at 2:29 PM, Fisher, Allen wrote: Windows EPS, among a lot of other things. Readme: http://downloads.makemusic.com/forms/Finale2006bWhatsNew.pdf ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] three annoying everyday Finale bugs
On 12/2/05, Kurt Gnos [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No! I have switched it on (automaic update layout). And I found no special settings that might explain the problem. But I know, even with automatic layout on, when I print, the printing dialogue box will only vanish (after hitting ok and printing) when I click once in the window afterwards. Speaking of bugs... But I guess that's how the automatic layout works? Even if I don't know any other program where I have to do an automatic update manually... I get that blank page all the time after extracting part, but a manual layout update will always solve it. You could even make a Finalescript that says: //process all open docs process folder //process subdirectories update layout That will do a manual update layout for all files in a specified folder. You can change the commenting (// at the beginning of a line marks it as a comment, so that line will not un as part of the script) to process all open documents instead, or to allow the script to work on all subfolders of the selected folder in addition. I recently did this (applied the update layout command to the beginning of the Batch Printing script), and it worked perfectly. Hope this helps. -- Brad Beyenhof Real-time Finale discussion: http://www.finaleirc.com my blog: http://augmentedfourth.blogspot.com Silence will save me from being wrong (and foolish), but it will also deprive me of the possibility of being right. ~ Igor Stravinsky ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] three annoying everyday Finale bugs
Oh, yeah... you should probably add: save close to the end of that script, unless you want all of the documents to remain open after they are processed. On 12/2/05, Brad Beyenhof [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 12/2/05, Kurt Gnos [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No! I have switched it on (automaic update layout). And I found no special settings that might explain the problem. But I know, even with automatic layout on, when I print, the printing dialogue box will only vanish (after hitting ok and printing) when I click once in the window afterwards. Speaking of bugs... But I guess that's how the automatic layout works? Even if I don't know any other program where I have to do an automatic update manually... I get that blank page all the time after extracting part, but a manual layout update will always solve it. You could even make a Finalescript that says: //process all open docs process folder //process subdirectories update layout That will do a manual update layout for all files in a specified folder. You can change the commenting (// at the beginning of a line marks it as a comment, so that line will not un as part of the script) to process all open documents instead, or to allow the script to work on all subfolders of the selected folder in addition. I recently did this (applied the update layout command to the beginning of the Batch Printing script), and it worked perfectly. Hope this helps. -- Brad Beyenhof Real-time Finale discussion: http://www.finaleirc.com my blog: http://augmentedfourth.blogspot.com Silence will save me from being wrong (and foolish), but it will also deprive me of the possibility of being right. ~ Igor Stravinsky ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] Real-time Finale discussion: FinaleIRC
I know it's been talked about before, but the Finale IRC discussion channel is starting to take off once again. The website (http://www.finaleirc.com) now includes a method you can use to join in the discussion right from your Web browser without downloading any software. Right now, there are typically 4-5 people present during North America working hours, and many Finale problems have been solved in minutes for those coming to the channel with questions. So I'm extending an invitation to all readers of this list to come join us in the channel. Feel free to come in, ask questions, and discuss Finale issues. http://www.finaleirc.com -- Brad Beyenhof Real-time Finale discussion: http://www.finaleirc.com my blog: http://augmentedfourth.blogspot.com Silence will save me from being wrong (and foolish), but it will also deprive me of the possibility of being right. ~ Igor Stravinsky ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] disk formatting?
On 11/30/05, Eric Fiedler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 29.11.2005, at 22:38, Brad Beyenhof wrote: (snip) That's how it worked with floppies, but not with CDs. CD-R media can only be written to once-- formatting, data, and all. The exception to this is packet-writing software which allows you to mount the CD as a writable drive and add info bit by bit, but I haven't seen any software of this kind available for the Mac. BurnAgain software (http://freeridecoding.net/burnagain) can do this on the Mac. Hope this helps. That's interesting... I dodn't know about that. However, that's not packet-writing software. I was talking about something like DirectCD on Windows (part of the Roxio Easy CD Creator), that allows a CD to act just like a floppy drive and allows you to add files on the fly. BurnAgain allows you to continually re-burn new info, but you actually need to perform a burn operation each time. DirectCD is drag-and-drop. However, that BurnAgain looks interesting! I'll have to check it out. -- Brad Beyenhof my blog: http://augmentedfourth.blogspot.com Silence will save me from being wrong (and foolish), but it will also deprive me of the possibility of being right. ~ Igor Stravinsky ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] disk formatting?
On 11/29/05, Andrew Stiller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I could have sworn that if you stick a blank disc into a computer--any computer--you should get a dialog asking how you want to format it--and I also coulda sworn that on a Mac you can format a blank disc and then copy onto it later. So what's going on here and what do I do about it? That's how it worked with floppies, but not with CDs. CD-R media can only be written to once-- formatting, data, and all. The exception to this is packet-writing software which allows you to mount the CD as a writable drive and add info bit by bit, but I haven't seen any software of this kind available for the Mac. And BTW, I want to come out of this with a windows-readable disc. CD-Rs are burned with CDFS, which is a file system readable by both Windows and Macintosh. In any case, it sounds to me like you've got a defective CD. Try putting a different blank disc into your wife's machine and see if that works. -- Brad Beyenhof Real-time Finale discussion: http://www.finaleirc.com my blog: http://augmentedfourth.blogspot.com Silence will save me from being wrong (and foolish), but it will also deprive me of the possibility of being right. ~ Igor Stravinsky ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] OT: MacIntel iBooks in January?
On 11/22/05, Darcy James Argue [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://thinksecret.com/news/0511intelibook.html I've heard that it'll be the Mini, that it'll be the PowerBook, and that it'll be the iMac as well (each from a different source). Some have speculated that Steve-O is leaking everything-- except PowerMacs, which is obviously not going to happen-- so that the announcement will still be a surprise since everybody's confused by the multiplicity of rumors. Anyway, it'll be great to have *some* Intel Mac or other come out... and yes, I hope MM can do this transition well. I think this would be a great opportunity for them to update their Mac codebase instead of relying on all of that patched-till-it's-about-to-break CodeWarrior stuff. -- Brad Beyenhof my blog: http://augmentedfourth.blogspot.com Silence will save me from being wrong (and foolish), but it will also deprive me of the possibility of being right. ~ Igor Stravinsky ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] musicRAIN 2.0 - a digital sheet music player for Finale files
On 11/17/05, Michael Good [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.recordare.com/xml/example11.html I get an Error loading the file. Please try again later. when trying to use the musicRAIN link on this page. However, musicRAIN does look pretty cool, after checking it out with the demo on the mediarain site. -- Brad Beyenhof Real-time Finale discussion: http://www.finaleirc.com my blog: http://augmentedfourth.blogspot.com Silence will save me from being wrong (and foolish), but it will also deprive me of the possibility of being right. ~ Igor Stravinsky ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Time signature change
On 11/16/05, Chuck Israels [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm working on an arrangement of a piece notated in 4/4 that really is better understood in cut time (like many Cole Porter songs), but I've done it in 4/4, and if I use the time signature tool to use another time signature for display, Finale will take measures with slashes and hidden quarter note rests and change the rests. Chuck: You should be able to get around this by unchecking Rebar measures when you modify the time signature. -- Brad Beyenhof Real-time Finale discussion: http://www.finaleirc.com my blog: http://augmentedfourth.blogspot.com Silence will save me from being wrong (and foolish), but it will also deprive me of the possibility of being right. ~ Igor Stravinsky ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Early music clefs
On 11/16/05, Kevin Riehle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In preparing modern editions of Hassler motets (or any other early music), it would be helpful to notate the original clefs with the voice parts at the beginning margin of each staff, just ahead of the permanent clefs. How do you do that? You'll have to insert an extra measure at the beginning of the piece, and place the original clefs there. Use the Measure tool to give that first measure an invisible right barline, and place the modern clef on the second measure. -- Brad Beyenhof Real-time Finale discussion: http://www.finaleirc.com my blog: http://augmentedfourth.blogspot.com Silence will save me from being wrong (and foolish), but it will also deprive me of the possibility of being right. ~ Igor Stravinsky ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Text Issue
On 11/16/05, Dean M. Estabrook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The 2nd layer, for example, will not accept a text of its own ... unless there is a technique of which I presently know not. The second layer *will* take a lyric; you just have to have Layer 2 selected at the bottom-left of the screen. You'll probably want to put the Layer 2 lyrics in another verse, so that it can be vertically aligned independently of the Layer 1 lyrics. -- Brad Beyenhof Real-time Finale discussion: http://www.finaleirc.com my blog: http://augmentedfourth.blogspot.com Silence will save me from being wrong (and foolish), but it will also deprive me of the possibility of being right. ~ Igor Stravinsky ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Text Issue
On 11/16/05, Dean M. Estabrook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Nov 16, 2005, at 4:35 PM, Brad Beyenhof wrote: On 11/16/05, Dean M. Estabrook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The 2nd layer, for example, will not accept a text of its own ... unless there is a technique of which I presently know not. The second layer *will* take a lyric; you just have to have Layer 2 selected at the bottom-left of the screen. Well, I had 2nd layer selected, but it didn't work. H Odd, I was just able to put lyrics on Layers 1 and 2 of a blank document I created just for testing this out. Maybe it's affected by something in the Document Options... -- Brad Beyenhof Real-time Finale discussion: http://www.finaleirc.com my blog: http://augmentedfourth.blogspot.com Silence will save me from being wrong (and foolish), but it will also deprive me of the possibility of being right. ~ Igor Stravinsky ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] display time signature
On 11/15/05, Steven Gruver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm creating a rhythm worksheet for my band students and would like to display the time signature on EVERY line. I know about courtesy time signature when you change to a different signature, but I would like to show 6/8 time on every line. You can't actually tell it to show timesigs every line, but you can use the Measure tool to individually show the timesig on the first measure of each line. Just double-click each measure and choose always show in the timesig drop-down. -- Brad Beyenhof Real-time Finale discussion: http://www.finaleirc.com my blog: http://augmentedfourth.blogspot.com Silence will save me from being wrong (and foolish), but it will also deprive me of the possibility of being right. ~ Igor Stravinsky ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] General upgrade question
On 11/14/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd like to know what is the received wisdom about the value of upgrading (I am a pretty lightweight user), or maybe there's even a way to upgrade to a less elderly version that isn't actually the current version? Please advise, O wise ones. As always my thanks in advance. If you can find it (maybe on eBay or something), I'd recommend getting a copy of Finale 2005. There might even be a way to purchase a Fin2k5 upgrade directly from MakeMusic!, but I haven't checked that out. If you've got an ultra-new Mac, 2006 might run well, but on my 1GHz G4 with 1.25GB of RAM and OSX 10.3.9 it's unusably laggy. -- Brad Beyenhof Real-time Finale discussion: http://www.finaleirc.com my blog: http://augmentedfourth.blogspot.com Silence will save me from being wrong (and foolish), but it will also deprive me of the possibility of being right. ~ Igor Stravinsky ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] TAN: News story about MakeMusic!
http://www.startribune.com/stories/535/5709588.html -- Brad Beyenhof Real-time Finale discussion: http://www.finaleirc.com my blog: http://augmentedfourth.blogspot.com Silence will save me from being wrong (and foolish), but it will also deprive me of the possibility of being right. ~ Igor Stravinsky ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] TAN: News story about MakeMusic!
On 11/14/05, dhbailey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I can see how it would sell well, but I really am skeptical about a piece of accompaniment software that actually allows a student to slow down in the hard spots and speed up in the easy spots and keeps right up with them. How will that show them that they need to work on the harder spots? I've actually seen this in action at music educator conventions. The Intelligent Accompaniment level can be set to a particular value, allowing a greater or leseer degree to which it follows of the soloist. The main point is to allow the performer to play lyrically with the computer, rather than having to remain metronomically steady with what would essentially be just a MIDI file playback. But the student exercises have Intelligent Accompaniment turned off. To be honest, though, I'm less than impressed with SmartMusic as an assessment tool. It's a great practice partner, and it will suffice for accompaniment if you can't find an actual human to do the job, but Pyware's Interactive Practice Assessment software (iPAS) is a much better computerized-assessment tool: http://pyware.com/ipas/index.htm -- Brad Beyenhof Real-time Finale discussion: http://www.finaleirc.com my blog: http://augmentedfourth.blogspot.com Silence will save me from being wrong (and foolish), but it will also deprive me of the possibility of being right. ~ Igor Stravinsky ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] PDFs on WinFin2005
On 11/14/05, Owain Sutton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Another option is to install Finale on a Linux box, through Wine, which then (theoretically) gives access to all the Postscript PDF capabilites you could ask for. I'm still struggling to get this one working, myself ;) Interesting that you should mention that. Not too long ago I burned a live CD of SLAX Linux (Kill Bill edition, with WinE, DOSbox, QEMU right in the distro), and Finale wouldn't run from it. But I was just playing around; I wasn't actually trying to do anything specific. -- Brad Beyenhof Real-time Finale discussion: http://www.finaleirc.com my blog: http://augmentedfourth.blogspot.com Silence will save me from being wrong (and foolish), but it will also deprive me of the possibility of being right. ~ Igor Stravinsky ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Non-Printing Expressions
On 11/11/05, Peter Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's ages since I needed to use a non-printing expression, but I can't seem to find an option for it in 2005. Could someone point me at it please? In 2005, you just use the text style hidden (it's in the menu next to bold, italic, etc.) to make text show up onscreen that will not be in the printout. -- Brad Beyenhof Real-time Finale discussion: http://www.finaleirc.com my blog: http://augmentedfourth.blogspot.com Silence will save me from being wrong (and foolish), but it will also deprive me of the possibility of being right. ~ Igor Stravinsky ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] OT: Windows users BEWARE of Sony BMG music CD's!
On 11/11/05, Phil Daley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 11/10/2005 08:43 PM, David W. Fenton wrote: One of the things it does is hook into low-level file I/O subroutines to hide its own files and its own activities. This is accomplished by hiding every file/directory that begins with $sys$ (or a similar such pattern -- I could be misremembering the exact prefix). That's exactly the correct prefix. In fact, I know of a guy who put a file called $sys$_canary on his desktop, so that he'll know if he ever gets this rootkit because the file will disappear (like the canaries used by miners). While humorous, I think it's kind of silly... just don't ever click OK to Sony's EULA, or hold Shift when inserting one of their CDs so that AutoRun won't kick in. As previously mentioned, you can disable AutoRun altogether, but that seems a bit extreme to me. -- Brad Beyenhof Real-time Finale discussion: http://www.finaleirc.com my blog: http://augmentedfourth.blogspot.com Silence will save me from being wrong (and foolish), but it will also deprive me of the possibility of being right. ~ Igor Stravinsky ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] OT: Windows users BEWARE of Sony BMG music CD's!
On 11/11/05, Phil Daley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sony has an uninstaller available on a web site somewhere. That uninstaller does not remove the rootkit in its entirety, it just disables the $sys$ file hiding (which has already been exploited in a new Trojan that just came out). -- Brad Beyenhof Real-time Finale discussion: http://www.finaleirc.com my blog: http://augmentedfourth.blogspot.com Silence will save me from being wrong (and foolish), but it will also deprive me of the possibility of being right. ~ Igor Stravinsky ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] OT: Windows users BEWARE of Sony BMG music CD's!
On 11/10/05, Robert Patterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mac users (as with a previous CD/CP scheme) are immune. Not completely true: http://digg.com/apple/Sony_Music_CDs_infect_Macs,_too_ It's not as invasive or as automatic, but there is DRM software on Sony CDs for Macs as well. -- Brad Beyenhof Real-time Finale discussion: http://www.finaleirc.com my blog: http://augmentedfourth.blogspot.com Silence will save me from being wrong (and foolish), but it will also deprive me of the possibility of being right. ~ Igor Stravinsky ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Another serious question about what you use
On 11/3/05, Williams, Jim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Of the add-ons you list, the only one I have ever used effectively is FinaleScript. I do use it quite often, though... to apply Patterson Beams to a group of files, to (in conjunction with a QuicKeys macro) export a folder full of files as EPS, to print a whole folder of files... basically to do operations on a number of documents all at once. Much easier and faster than getting RSI hitting cmd-p, enter, cmd-w, enter, cmd-o over and over again. -- Brad Beyenhof [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://augmentedfourth.blogspot.com Silence will save me from being wrong (and foolish), but it will also deprive me of the possibility of being right. ~ Igor Stravinsky ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Product Proliferation--a Contest
On 11/3/05, Williams, Jim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Finale Friends... We now have... *Finale *Print Music *Finale Guitar *Finale Songwriter How about the Engraver's Edition that notates music cleanly and efficiently without even claiming to do any of the marketing-hype-driven fluff like the rhyming dictionary and auto-harmonization? -- Brad Beyenhof [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://augmentedfourth.blogspot.com Silence will save me from being wrong (and foolish), but it will also deprive me of the possibility of being right. ~ Igor Stravinsky ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Another serious question about what you use
On 11/3/05, Chuck Israels [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: j.FinaleScript? Tried it and found Automator in Tiger to work more easily for batch printing. I did have one Finale script that worked for a while - to change fonts, but it sopped working and seemed more trouble to re- build or repair than to do the necessary work by hand. But geeks like me are more than happy to spend 6 hours in order to make a 10-minute job take 45 seconds. Of course that's hyperbole, but any sort of scripting takes a certain type of computing mindset that's more suited to those with experience doing some sort of programming. -- Brad Beyenhof [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://augmentedfourth.blogspot.com Silence will save me from being wrong (and foolish), but it will also deprive me of the possibility of being right. ~ Igor Stravinsky ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Another serious question about what you use
On 11/3/05, Chuck Israels [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sometimes I think I should spend a full week tweaking templates and shortcuts, but music gets in the way. Don't you hate it when that happens? :) -- Brad Beyenhof [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://augmentedfourth.blogspot.com Silence will save me from being wrong (and foolish), but it will also deprive me of the possibility of being right. ~ Igor Stravinsky ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Re: Fin2006a now available!
On 11/1/05, A-NO-NE Music [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Brad Beyenhof / 2005/11/01 / 09:04 PM wrote: This happens on my computer right as soon as I start Finale, even in a brand-new blank template document. There has never been a situation in which this lag problem has not existed on my computer in Fin2006. When you open Activity Monitor, do you see anything is taking unusual CPU/Memory usage? Finale goes up to 35% of CPU (I have a 1GHz G4) when I drag-enclose or select meaures in the Mass Edit tool. Finale's memory usage doesn't change when I'm selecting items (it's usually at about 50-75 MB; I have 1.25GB DDR in the machine). -- Brad Beyenhof [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://augmentedfourth.blogspot.com Silence will save me from being wrong (and foolish), but it will also deprive me of the possibility of being right. ~ Igor Stravinsky ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Hardware question
On 11/1/05, Linda Worsley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My one complaint is that you have to keep the iBook partially open because if you close it, it automatically sleeps, and both screens go away. A donationware program called Sleepless allows you to keep your computer running even when the lid is fully closed. There are a lot of configuration options, all explained in the program's documentation. -- Brad Beyenhof [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://augmentedfourth.blogspot.com Silence will save me from being wrong (and foolish), but it will also deprive me of the possibility of being right. ~ Igor Stravinsky ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] Fin2006a now available!
Finlisters: I just got notice from MakeMusic! that the 2006a updater is now available for Windows and Mac. Here is the URL they gave: http://www.finalemusic.com/finale/update.aspx Maybe I'll even be able to use Fin2006 now! -- Brad Beyenhof [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://augmentedfourth.blogspot.com Silence will save me from being wrong (and foolish), but it will also deprive me of the possibility of being right. ~ Igor Stravinsky ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Re: Fin2006a now available!
On 11/1/05, A-NO-NE Music [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Brad Beyenhof / 2005/11/01 / 05:06 PM wrote: ...or maybe not. The major lag when selecting measures still stands in OSX10.3.9/Fin2k6a. I did experienced this twice on my OSX10.4.2JP, but every time it went away by just restarting FinMac2006. This happens on my computer right as soon as I start Finale, even in a brand-new blank template document. There has never been a situation in which this lag problem has not existed on my computer in Fin2006. -- Brad Beyenhof [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://augmentedfourth.blogspot.com Silence will save me from being wrong (and foolish), but it will also deprive me of the possibility of being right. ~ Igor Stravinsky ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Notes EVERYWHERE
On 21/10/05, Brennon Bortz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: After opening a new default document and entering notes in Speedy Entry in Scroll View, I switch to Page View and suddenly notes have veered off the edges of the page on nearly every staff. Applying any time of music spacing only worsens the problem? Redrawing the screen doesn't fix the problem either. Staff optimization does. Is optimization the ONLY way to correct this? No... when you change music spacing, the next thing to do is always to update the layout (cmd-\ on Mac, ctrl-u on Win). If you turn on Automatic Update Layout, manually updating won't be necessary as often (but it's a good idea to do this fairly frequently when you're working in Scroll View). Also, remember that updating the layout only affects the the pages from the one you're currently viewing through the end of the piece. Make sure to update layout while viewing Page 1 before printing the file. -- Brad Beyenhof [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://augmentedfourth.blogspot.com Silence will save me from being wrong (and foolish), but it will also deprive me of the possibility of being right. ~ Igor Stravinsky ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] import max midifiles
On 12/10/05, maximilian marcoll [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i'm new to this list and i need some help. i want to create midi files with max containing 7:4 and similar rhythms. when importing these files i want finale to understand that 7:4 is not 255:128 or something. i played around with the quant settings in the import-dialog but didn't get it. I recently did a MIDI transcription of a score with a bunch of odd tuplets like this, and Finale is not particularly good at doing these things all by itself. It sometimes helps to play with the Quantization settings (after the whole file has been imported) and then retranscribe just the section with the odd tuplet. However, you can only retranscribe full measures, so sometimes using a really sensitive Quant setting to notate the tuplet correctly will mess up the rhythms in the rest of the bar. If you make sure all the 'note on' and 'note off' messages have been precisely quantized in the MIDI file before the import this will work better. But the short answer is: good luck... this isn't one of Finale's strong points. -- Brad Beyenhof [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://augmentedfourth.blogspot.com Silence will save me from being wrong (and foolish), but it will also deprive me of the possibility of being right. ~ Igor Stravinsky ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] Hyphenated words in lyrics
Finlisters all, hear my cry: How do I treat words with hyphens in lyrics? For instance, the compound adjective one-horse in one-horse open sleigh. Does the grammatically-necessary hyphen get treated like a syllabification hyphen? Or should there be some alternate treatment that indicates the difference between one-horse and the adjacent o-pen? Or am I just getting overly analytical here? (It wouldn't be the first time.) -- Brad Beyenhof [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://augmentedfourth.blogspot.com Silence will save me from being wrong (and foolish), but it will also deprive me of the possibility of being right. ~ Igor Stravinsky ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Staff Style Query
On 08/10/05, Carl Dershem [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm working on a piece, and some of the stuff I have to do to get the chords input is ... distracting when doing playback (to check for errors, mostly). I've heard there's a ways to set up a staff style for No Playback, but am not certain how. I'm using FinWin 2004a, and have looked through the 'manual' and had no luck. You actually don't need to use staff styles to turn off chord playback. If you go to the Instrument List, you can click the arrow on the left-hand side of the staff with chords and mute only the chords layer for that staff. -- Brad Beyenhof [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://augmentedfourth.blogspot.com Silence will save me from being wrong (and foolish), but it will also deprive me of the possibility of being right. ~ Igor Stravinsky ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] WinFin06 missing plugin?
On 09/10/05, Aaron Sherber [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This may seem like a stupid question, but did the Text Search Replace plugin accidentally get left out of WinFin2006? I don't see it in the plugin menus of either of my 2006 installations. I don't actually have the answer, but FinaleScript is supposed to be able to do that. Maybe MM! removed it from the plug-ins menu to force people to figure out FS if they haven't tried it yet. -- Brad Beyenhof [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://augmentedfourth.blogspot.com Silence will save me from being wrong (and foolish), but it will also deprive me of the possibility of being right. ~ Igor Stravinsky ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Metatools
On 06/10/05, Mark Blumberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am trying to load a library from one file into another but the metatools are not coming with the library. When saving the Articulation library (or any library) are the metatools associated with the library not saved also? Nope, no metatools come along for the ride with the default library export and import. However, you can use Patterson Tools' Settings Scrapbook to transfer libraries and metatools. -- Brad Beyenhof [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://augmentedfourth.blogspot.com Silence will save me from being wrong (and foolish), but it will also deprive me of the possibility of being right. ~ Igor Stravinsky ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] slugishness of my finale
Are you using Finale 2006? I get similar problems with Fin2k6/OSX10.3.9, so I'm back to using Finale 2005 for now... -- Brad Beyenhof [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://augmentedfourth.blogspot.com Silence will save me from being wrong (and foolish), but it will also deprive me of the possibility of being right. ~ Igor Stravinsky On 10/4/05, Godofredo Romero [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Any help will be greatly appreciated. I am getting a very annoying behavior from my finale. it takes forever to respond to my commands, notes or whatever. I make almost all of my entries via speedy note entry and normally I am very fast in doing so and up until now finale had kept up with my speed. what's happening now is that i have to wait, and i mean wait a while, while finale reflects what i have entered in my document. on top of all this my finale doesn't retain the preferences i select to work under. i use a mac with panther 10.3.9. I have repaired the permissions, run norton and disk warrior and gotten no where in the solution of my problem. I am seriously considering making a finale doll and pierce it all over with pins while chanting and dancing around my computer... thanks for your help godofredo romero P.S on second thought, should i make a godofredo doll instead?... ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Staff Paper?
On 10/4/05, Carlberg Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Without going into it myself, will someone please tell me if Finale can print just staff paper, no clefs, bar lines, etc., to user defined specifications? Yep: just make a new document with one staff and use the Staff Attributes dialog to define which elements to hide. -- Brad Beyenhof [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://augmentedfourth.blogspot.com Silence will save me from being wrong (and foolish), but it will also deprive me of the possibility of being right. ~ Igor Stravinsky ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Staff Paper?
Also: freestaffpaper.cjb.net But it seems like he wants his own custom staff paper, with his own margins, staff size, etc. -Brad On 10/4/05, Taris Whitepaw [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To save you the trouble, here's a site with ALL kinds of manuscript paper http://www.audiograffiti.com.au/dwn_ms.htm Taris On Tue, 04 Oct 2005 18:50:45 -0300, Carlberg Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Greetings - Without going into it myself, will someone please tell me if Finale can print just staff paper, no clefs, bar lines, etc., to user defined specifications? Thanks very much for answering this mundane question. Regards, Carlberg Carlberg Jones Guanajuato, Gto. MEXICO ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale -- Brad Beyenhof [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://augmentedfourth.blogspot.com Silence will save me from being wrong (and foolish), but it will also deprive me of the possibility of being right. ~ Igor Stravinsky ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Edit left side of word extension?
Well, this isn't a vocal staff. It's actually for a method book, and it's a duet, and the author is putting in lyrics on the exercises whose songs have them. So I'm treating them as instrumental staves (which they are), and throwing in the lyrics as something extra (which, in a sense, they are). I do agree that vocal staves shouldn't have connected barlines, though. -- Brad Beyenhof [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://augmentedfourth.blogspot.com Silence will save me from being wrong (and foolish), but it will also deprive me of the possibility of being right. ~ Igor Stravinsky On 10/2/05, Don Hart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Brad, I'm a little late jumping in on this, but isn't the notational standard to break the barlines around vocal staves? Aren't you running into a lot of lyric/extension collisions with barlines? I always understood that the purpose of this practice was to prevent collisions with the lyric and extension traffic. I'm not sure the reason(s) you might have to not break the barlines in this situation, but breaking them would eliminate this collision, as well as others, globally. Don Hart on 9/29/05 3:26 PM, Brad Beyenhof at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So I've got a word extension that looks a little wierd. The lyric it's attached to is pretty close to the measure's right barline, and the barline is stretching across staves so that the extension line just barely intersects the group barline. I'd like to be able to move the left side of the word extensionto the right, because a) the editor of this project has asked me to and b) the collision looks absurd, even if I hadn't been instructed to fix it. I tried exporting a tiny blank EPS to re-import and cover up a bit of the word extension on either side of the barline. Unfortunately, the word extension seems to be one of those foreground elements that shows through anything you put on it (yes, I tried an empty opaque expression too). Does anybody know how Finale can sensibly resolve this collision? I put a screengrab here if you need a visual: http://augmentedfourth.cjb.net/word_ext.tif ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] Edit left side of word extension?
So I've got a word extension that looks a little wierd. The lyric it's attached to is pretty close to the measure's right barline, and the barline is stretching across staves so that the extension line just barely intersects the group barline. I'd like to be able to move the left side of the word extensionto the right, because a) the editor of this project has asked me to and b) the collision looks absurd, even if I hadn't been instructed to fix it. I tried exporting a tiny blank EPS to re-import and cover up a bit of the word extension on either side of the barline. Unfortunately, the word extension seems to be one of those foreground elements that shows through anything you put on it (yes, I tried an empty opaque expression too). Does anybody know how Finale can sensibly resolve this collision? I put a screengrab here if you need a visual: http://augmentedfourth.cjb.net/word_ext.tif -- Brad Beyenhof [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://augmentedfourth.blogspot.com Silence will save me from being wrong (and foolish), but it will also deprive me of the possibility of being right. ~ Igor Stravinsky ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Edit left side of word extension?
On 9/29/05, Burt Fenner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Brad Beyenhof wrote: I'd like to be able to move the left side of the word extensionto the right, because a) the editor of this project has asked me to and b) the collision looks absurd, even if I hadn't been instructed to fix it. I would get rid of the extension and use a custom line. I have Smart Word Extensions turned on, though (for other extensions in this file). With Smart Word Extensions turned on, I can't figure out how to get rid of just one extension in order to replace it with a custom line. Is this possible? -- Brad Beyenhof [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://augmentedfourth.blogspot.com Silence will save me from being wrong (and foolish), but it will also deprive me of the possibility of being right. ~ Igor Stravinsky ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Edit left side of word extension?
On 9/29/05, Barbara Touburg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sure, select it and press delete (choose lyrics - edit word extensions first of course) Thanks! Sometimes I'm looking so hard for a workaround that I don't even see the things that are staring me in the face... thanks for pointing out my blind spot. -- Brad Beyenhof [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://augmentedfourth.blogspot.com Silence will save me from being wrong (and foolish), but it will also deprive me of the possibility of being right. ~ Igor Stravinsky ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Moving System to New Page
On 9/28/05, Jacki B. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Everyone - Is there some easy way to force a system at the bottom of a page onto the next page? Yep, there's an incredibly easy way to do this. In the Page Layout tool, just right-click (or control-click on a Mac) the system's upper-left handle and choose Insert Page Break. -- Brad Beyenhof [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://augmentedfourth.blogspot.com Silence will save me from being wrong (and foolish), but it will also deprive me of the possibility of being right. ~ Igor Stravinsky ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] move repeat sign
On 9/26/05, Dragos Oltean [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: view this image http://www.svp-amd.cnet.ro/diverse/finale_repeat.jpg I want to move repeat sign after first note. It's possible? You'll have to add an extra measure, so that there's a barline in between the first half and the last half of that bar. Make both measures 1/4 and hide the time signatures via the measure tool (or you can make them both 1/4 measures that display as 2/4). Then, if you care about measure numbers, there are two things you might do: 1) In Finale 2006 (which I believe you are using, since the background is not pure white), use the Measure Tool to uncheck Include in Measure Numbering on the second half bar. 2) In Fin2k5 and earlier, define a measure number region to include measure 1 through the first half bar, and another region to include the bar after the second half bar through the end. The second region will have to have the first number in region offset by -1 so that the second 1/4 bar will not be given a number. -- Brad Beyenhof [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://augmentedfourth.blogspot.com Silence will save me from being wrong (and foolish), but it will also deprive me of the possibility of being right. ~ Igor Stravinsky ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] OT: Transparent graphics
On 9/20/05, Darcy James Argue [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there some way to create a graphic (PNG, PDF, EPS, whatever) with a transparent background? Darcy: I'm not sure exactly how it's accomplished, but I know that GIF graphics definitely allow transparency. EPS purports to support transparency as well (note the allow transparency checkbox in Finale's Export Pages dialog), but it's technically not a graphic format. -- Brad Beyenhof [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://augmentedfourth.blogspot.com Silence will save me from being wrong (and foolish), but it will also deprive me of the possibility of being right. ~ Igor Stravinsky ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] probably dumb questions, but...
On 9/17/05, Owain Sutton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Christopher Smith wrote: Hmm, must be a PC thing. There's no Edit toolbar I can find on my Mac version (2005) Another Mac user could perhaps confirm thisbut (I think) the Edit toolbar is one of those which is permanently displayed in the default 2005 PC install. I have used both Win and Mac versions, and FinMac has never been able to display the toolbars which are merely duplications of program menus. This, however, is mostly because of the window layout of Mac vs. Win... Windows has a shell Multiple Document Interface window into which files can be opened (and onto which toolbars can be docked), while the Mac's Finale windows each show only one document and the available toolbars all float. The only toolbars that exist on the Mac version are the main tool pallette and the Simple Entry, Special Tools, and Smart Shape toolbars. -- Brad Beyenhof [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://augmentedfourth.blogspot.com Silence will save me from being wrong (and foolish), but it will also deprive me of the possibility of being right. ~ Igor Stravinsky ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Windows Save as Audio options for GPO
On 9/18/05, Darcy James Argue [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Could someone please remind me what the preferred solution was for recording Finale GPO output in Windows? On Mac, there is a freeware solution, using SoundFlower and Audacity (plus the slightly easier shareware solutions like WireTap Pro and Audio Hijack Pro)-- is there a freeware PC solution as well? I'm not aware of anything that's actually free (except that certain soundcards have a Speaker Output in the driver that can be used to record any sound the computer makes), but TotalRecorder is a great shareware solution. http://www.highcriteria.com -- Brad Beyenhof [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://augmentedfourth.blogspot.com Silence will save me from being wrong (and foolish), but it will also deprive me of the possibility of being right. ~ Igor Stravinsky ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Finale Acting Weird After Upgrading to Tiger
Jacki: It's possible that you've unchecked Save Preferences When Quitting FInale in the Program Options. This would do the same things you describe, but rather than turn it on I would suggest that you instead get all the settings exactly the way you like them and then go to File Save Special Save Preferences. I personally prefer to keep my preferences in one known-good state instead of having Finale re-save them every time I exit the program, but YMMV if you like to change the preferences around a lot. Hope this helps! -- Brad Beyenhof [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://augmentedfourth.blogspot.com Silence will save me from being wrong (and foolish), but it will also deprive me of the possibility of being right. ~ Igor Stravinsky On 9/17/05, Jacki B. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Everyone... I'm running Finale 2005b on a Mac and when I upgraded to Tiger a few weird things started happening. Just wondered if this happened to anyone else and if so, how do you fix it?! What's going on is I no longer get the Launch Window upon starting up Finale, even though I have checked it in the prefs. Also, my recently opened files are not showing up AT ALL - when I choose Open Recent - it says there are no recently used files. I called MakeMusic and they had me trash my prefs and start over, but it did not fix the problem - they said they hadn't heard of it happening before. It's no big deal really, but it is a mild nuisance! I liked those features before and just wonder how to get them back...?! Thanks! ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Help requested. File I can't open.
Dennis: I'll give it a shot. Just the one file you need PDF'ed? Brad On 9/15/05, Dennis Bathory-Kitsz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, Could I ask a favor from one of you with Finale 2006? We're having our Komposer Kombat on Saturday, and someone has uploaded a score without any identification. I have Finale 2005b, but it won't open the file, so I'm guessing it's 2006. It's Enigma binary, so I can't even ID who sent it. Since the Kalvos Damian competition is Saturday, I'd be really grateful if one of you could grab it at ftp://maltedmedia.com/kombat/ and PDF it for me. It's called Kombat.MUS Contact me via email first, so the favor doesn't get duplicated. :) Many thanks, Dennis ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale -- Brad Beyenhof [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://augmentedfourth.blogspot.com Silence will save me from being wrong (and foolish), but it will also deprive me of the possibility of being right. ~ Igor Stravinsky ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Active Layer
On 9/14/05, John Hughes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In the View menu I have no Show Active Layer Only, even though the manual says it should be there. This is actually in the Options menu now. There is also another stupid bug.- I wished to erase all the chords and only the chords , so that was all I ticked off leaving everything else un-ticked. So what happened? It also erased all my measure numbers make it necessary to enter them all again. I've never had any problems in Mass Edit, going to 'Clear Items' in the Mass Edit menu, selecting 'Entries' and checking only 'Chords.' This has always left measure numbers alone. Are you selecting the measures before attempting to clear the chords? Try using 'Select All' (command-A or ctrl-A) on the piece before attempting to clear the chords. -- Brad Beyenhof [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://augmentedfourth.blogspot.com Silence will save me from being wrong (and foolish), but it will also deprive me of the possibility of being right. ~ Igor Stravinsky ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Underscore
On 9/13/05, Javier Ruiz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Now if FinaleScript could change the paper size in the Page Setup menu... There's no way to actually *change settings* via FinaleScript, but this ingenious script (provided by Karen Guthery) makes the process a lot easier: //process all open docs batch process folder execute menu item page setup //print save //you can insert 'save append *' or similar here if you want to keep the original documents intact close Effectively, it opens the Page Setup dialog for every item in a folder in turn (or every open doc, if you change the commenting), so all you have to do is modify the page size. This is much better than opening every file individually, invoking the Page Setup dialog manually, and changing page size. There's still a manual step involved, but it cuts out a lot of the tedium involved in changing the page size for a batch of already-created documents. -- Brad Beyenhof [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://augmentedfourth.blogspot.com Silence will save me from being wrong (and foolish), but it will also deprive me of the possibility of being right. ~ Igor Stravinsky ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Panning values
On 9/10/05, Simon Troup [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Percentages are the *standard* way to do it. All major digital audio applications use percentages. That's incorrect. Logic, for example, uses -64 through +64. I don't get all this talk of -64 to 64. If there are only 128 values, doesn't one of the bounds have to have an absolute value of 63? -64 to 64, with zero included as center, is 129 values. I've always seen it as -63 to 64. -- Brad Beyenhof [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://augmentedfourth.blogspot.com Silence will save me from being wrong (and foolish), but it will also deprive me of the possibility of being right. ~ Igor Stravinsky ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] OT: Spotlight causing sluggishness?
On 9/7/05, Karen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Revisiting Brad's issue with sluggishness when using FinMac2006. I had a client experiencing the same thing as Brad was describing. I had my client look at his crash logs and he found continuous errors with mdimportserver which has to do with spotlight indexing. Don't know if this is what is causing Brad's issues or not, but I thought it may be worth passing along. Nope, that's not it. I'm running Panther, which (as you know) has no Spotlight to speak of. To be honest (and to go off the beaten path a bit), I'm not altogether certain that I even *want* Tiger. Quicksilver is better than Spotlight, even though I'm stuck at a version Blacktree codenamed Pariah due to my upgrade lag, and Konfabulator is just about the same as Dashboard. I know there's probably a lot of under-the-hood sorts of things (there always are), but in terms of features I've got a couple of the best of them already through third-party freeware apps. -- Brad Beyenhof [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://augmentedfourth.blogspot.com Silence will save me from being wrong (and foolish), but it will also deprive me of the possibility of being right. ~ Igor Stravinsky ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Is Finale 2006 trustable for Mac yet?
On 8/31/05, Karen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are you running any Haxies...anything that uses the APE manager (Application Enhancer per Unsanity??) These can cause many problems. I took them all off of my machine. I run Quicksilver with no problems so I don't think that is the cause. I do run APE, but ClearDock is the only Haxie I run in it. If there's any other way to completely remove that annoying semi-transparent rectangle behind the Dock icons I'll use that, though. Do you know of any? -- Brad Beyenhof [EMAIL PROTECTED] my blog: http://augmentedfourth.blogspot.com Life would be so much easier if only (3/2)^12=(2/1)^7. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] test
On 9/1/05, Andrew Stiller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: test Congratulations, you're back on the list! -- Brad Beyenhof [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://augmentedfourth.blogspot.com Silence will save me from being wrong (and foolish), but it will also deprive me of the possibility of being right. ~ Igor Stravinsky ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: Bach temperament, was: Re: [Finale] Is Finale 2006 trustable for Mac yet?
On 9/1/05, Johannes Gebauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 18:07 Uhr Brad Beyenhof wrote: Life would be so much easier if only (3/2)^12=(2/1)^7. Have you heard about the recently discovered Bach tuning, which is hidden on the title page of the well-tempered manuscript? No... do you have a reference (preferably online) where I can read about it? http://www.larips.com/ Interesting... I just listened to the recent interview on the BBC's Early Music Show, linked from that page. Very interesting ideas (though I admit they sound very controversial, almost dubious), but I'll have to have a look at the paper later and see for myself. -- Brad Beyenhof [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://augmentedfourth.blogspot.com Silence will save me from being wrong (and foolish), but it will also deprive me of the possibility of being right. ~ Igor Stravinsky ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Is Finale 2006 trustable for Mac yet?
On 9/1/05, I wrote: On 8/31/05, Karen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are you running any Haxies...anything that uses the APE manager (Application Enhancer per Unsanity??) These can cause many problems. I took them all off of my machine. I run Quicksilver with no problems so I don't think that is the cause. I do run APE, but ClearDock is the only Haxie I run in it. If there's any other way to completely remove that annoying semi-transparent rectangle behind the Dock icons I'll use that, though. Do you know of any? I uninstalled ClearDock and APE; it didn't help my 2k6 experience. The Unsanity website mentions the fact that APE can slow down application *loading*, but it says that once applications are running there is no speed decrease. In any case, I found a standalone program to remove the dock background; it's called TransparentDock: http://www.freerangemac.com/TransparentDock2.html -- Brad Beyenhof [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://augmentedfourth.blogspot.com Silence will save me from being wrong (and foolish), but it will also deprive me of the possibility of being right. ~ Igor Stravinsky ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Is Finale 2006 trustable for Mac yet?
On 8/30/05, I wrote: My problems with 2k6 occur even when no GPO instruments are loaded, though. I've got a memory usage meter (CompactMemory in Konfabulator), and I can't remember it ever going above 60% or so, even when the lag is worst. I'll check again tomorrow when I'm in the office, though. I may be remembering my memory usage incorrectly. I quit *everything* except for Finale (well, everything in the Dock, anyway... background things like Quicksilver, Konfabulator, and the underlying OS stuff were still running), deleted the .plist Darcy mentioned, and I still have unusable lag with dragging and selecting in 2k6. In a blank document it's not too bad (1/4 to 1/2 second), but in a medium-sized concert band score it's up to a second of delay with *every* action. Any more suggestions? Has anybody hit this sort of lag in Tiger? Has anybody *not* hit this sort of lag in Panther? I'd like to find out what's different between my machine and the machines that are running 2k6 without problems, and I suspect it's probably the OS version that's the problem. -- Brad Beyenhof [EMAIL PROTECTED] my blog: http://augmentedfourth.blogspot.com Life would be so much easier if only (3/2)^12=(2/1)^7. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
