RE: [Flightgear-devel] Next release of FlightGear

2004-07-19 Thread Vivian Meazza
Curt wrote Sent: 16 July 2004 16:34 To: FlightGear developers discussions Subject: [Flightgear-devel] Next release of FlightGear I've started doing some of the pre-release work for FlightGear-0.9.5 (which is the next release.) That means I'd like to do our official next release in the

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Next release of FlightGear

2004-07-19 Thread Frederic Bouvier
Vivian Meazza wrote: The Cygwin build of FGFS-cvs appears still to have a problem with the scenery path. I've downloaded 0.9.5 scenery via Terrasync into /FlightGear/scenery This works: --fg-scenery=/FlightGear/scenery as does this: --fg-scenery=/FlightGear/data/scenery this

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Next release of FlightGear

2004-07-19 Thread Vivian Meazza
Fred wrote Sent: 19 July 2004 10:20 To: FlightGear developers discussions Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] Next release of FlightGear Vivian Meazza wrote: The Cygwin build of FGFS-cvs appears still to have a problem with the scenery path. I've downloaded 0.9.5 scenery via

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Next release of FlightGear

2004-07-18 Thread Innis Cunningham
Frederic Bouvier writes Norman Vine wrote: Frederic Bouvier writes: FG is not using the latest features new cards are offering and the 'old' features are pretty maxed out now. This is not an explanation for worst performance but just for lack of improvement. In the meantime, you

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Next release of FlightGear

2004-07-18 Thread Erik Hofman
Ampere K. Hardraade wrote: Please tell me that you don't play FlightGear in wireframe mode. =P Neh, my O2 does support filled triangles. Just kidding. Oh. ;-) Erik ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Next release of FlightGear

2004-07-18 Thread Erik Hofman
Innis Cunningham wrote: It is quite possible that the new graphics card/system is not set up for FG.I will have a play with it and see if I can improve the situation.I think anisotropic filtering is on. The point I was trying to make is people trying FG for the first time will be dissuaded from

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Next release of FlightGear

2004-07-18 Thread Boris Koenig
Erik Hofman wrote: Innis Cunningham wrote: It is quite possible that the new graphics card/system is not set up for FG.I will have a play with it and see if I can improve the situation.I think anisotropic filtering is on. The point I was trying to make is people trying FG for the first time will

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Next release of FlightGear

2004-07-18 Thread Boris Koenig
Richard Harke wrote: On Saturday 17 July 2004 07:08 am, Innis Cunningham wrote: I had a GeForce 2 Titanium with a PIII Xeon at 550MHz getting about 15 fps over SF Video card crapped out (even has a red LED come on to tell you it has crapped out) so I bought a Geforce FX 5200 Frame rate dropped to

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Next release of FlightGear

2004-07-18 Thread Boris Koenig
Erik Hofman wrote: This is the penalty for those who want eye-candy. If specular highlighting is supported it will be enabled an make FlightGear slower. I noticed some enhancements in the new rendering dialog, and would like to ask how feasible it would be to integrate even more

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Next release of FlightGear

2004-07-18 Thread Erik Hofman
Boris Koenig wrote: Erik Hofman wrote: Well, if we turn all that off, people start to complain that FlightGear looks like crap and will search for something else. At least now they start asking questions ... Then how about optionally offering to disable such things in the (advanced) rendering

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Next release of FlightGear

2004-07-18 Thread Frederic Bouvier
Jonathan Polley wrote: Fred, It turns out that the problem should exist on every FlightGear system, not just the Mac. On exit(), fgExitCleanup() is called which deletes the globals class and then calls fgOSExit(). The only thing that fgOSExit() does is turn around and call

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Next release of FlightGear

2004-07-18 Thread Erik Hofman
Frederic Bouvier wrote: What about calling SDL_Quit in a function installed by 'atexit', remove fgOSExit and only rely on exit in all the program ? The problem is that plib has taken the liberty to call exit() whenever they feel like it Erik ___

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Next release of FlightGear

2004-07-18 Thread Vivian Meazza
I wrote Sent: 17 July 2004 15:22 To: 'FlightGear developers discussions' Subject: RE: [Flightgear-devel] Next release of FlightGear Erik Hofman wrote Sent: 17 July 2004 14:51 To: FlightGear developers discussions Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] Next release of FlightGear Vivian

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Next release of FlightGear

2004-07-18 Thread Jon Stockill
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Erik Hofman wrote: IRIX and Solaris binaries also include it by default. I'm not sure about other distributions, but I would encourage them to include it with the distribution. I include it with the slackware package too. Is there likely to be a new release of fgrun

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Next release of FlightGear

2004-07-17 Thread Durk Talsma
On Friday 16 July 2004 17:34, Curtis L. Olson wrote: I've started doing some of the pre-release work for FlightGear-0.9.5 (which is the next release.) That means I'd like to do our official next release in the next week or two. Please take a few minutes to download the tar balls and test

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Next release of FlightGear

2004-07-17 Thread Durk Talsma
Yep, I just got the same error. I had hoped that rerunning ./autgen.sh would fix the problem but it appears not to. Cheers, Durk On Saturday 17 July 2004 06:32, Ampere K. Hardraade wrote: I've got an error during compiliation: -DPKGLIBDIR=\/usr/share/FlightGear/share/FlightGear\ -g -O2

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Next release of FlightGear

2004-07-17 Thread Frederic Bouvier
Indeed, the package only contains fg_os_sdl.cxx. I think it reflects the packager's ( Curt ) own build option. And the package doesn't include Network/jpg-httpd.* . May I suggest to include all the files that are in conditional statement in Makefile.am to be include inconditionally in an

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Next release of FlightGear

2004-07-17 Thread Frederic Bouvier
Curtis L. Olson wrote: I've started doing some of the pre-release work for FlightGear-0.9.5 (which is the next release.) That means I'd like to do our official next release in the next week or two. Please take a few minutes to download the tar balls and test this pre1 release. Please!

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Next release of FlightGear

2004-07-17 Thread Frederic Bouvier
I wrote: Curtis L. Olson wrote: I've started doing some of the pre-release work for FlightGear-0.9.5 (which is the next release.) That means I'd like to do our official next release in the next week or two. Please take a few minutes to download the tar balls and test this pre1

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Next release of FlightGear

2004-07-17 Thread Erik Hofman
Ampere K. Hardraade wrote: make[2]: *** No rule to make target `fg_os.cxx', needed by `fg_os.o'. Good catch. There was a mistake in the build system. This should be solved in the FlightGear-0.9.5-pre2. (In the mean time you could just copy the fg_os* files from CVS) Erik

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Next release of FlightGear

2004-07-17 Thread Erik Hofman
Frederic Bouvier wrote: Indeed, the package only contains fg_os_sdl.cxx. I think it reflects the packager's ( Curt ) own build option. And the package doesn't include Network/jpg-httpd.* . May I suggest to include all the files that are in conditional statement in Makefile.am to be include

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Next release of FlightGear

2004-07-17 Thread Vivian Meazza
Curt wrote Sent: 16 July 2004 16:34 To: FlightGear developers discussions Subject: [Flightgear-devel] Next release of FlightGear I've started doing some of the pre-release work for FlightGear-0.9.5 (which is the next release.) That means I'd like to do our official next release in the

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Next release of FlightGear

2004-07-17 Thread Erik Hofman
Vivian Meazza wrote: SimGear-0.3.6-pre1 will not compile under Cygwin. It fails in [openal-test1.exe]: cannot find -lalut. This is using Norman's prebuild libraries, isn't it? Norman has integrated the alut library and the openal library so the reference should then be removed in the

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Next release of FlightGear

2004-07-17 Thread Frederic Bouvier
Erik Hofman wrote: Vivian Meazza wrote: SimGear-0.3.6-pre1 will not compile under Cygwin. It fails in [openal-test1.exe]: cannot find -lalut. This is using Norman's prebuild libraries, isn't it? Norman has integrated the alut library and the openal library so the reference should then

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Next release of FlightGear

2004-07-17 Thread Erik Hofman
Frederic Bouvier wrote: Erik Hofman wrote: Vivian Meazza wrote: SimGear-0.3.6-pre1 will not compile under Cygwin. It fails in [openal-test1.exe]: cannot find -lalut. This is using Norman's prebuild libraries, isn't it? Norman has integrated the alut library and the openal library so the

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Next release of FlightGear

2004-07-17 Thread Jon Stockill
Ampere K. Hardraade wrote: I've got an error during compiliation: -DPKGLIBDIR=\/usr/share/FlightGear/share/FlightGear\ -g -O2 -D_REENTRANT -c -o viewer.o `test -f viewer.cxx || echo './'`viewer.cxx source='viewmgr.cxx' object='viewmgr.o' libtool=no \ depfile='.deps/viewmgr.Po'

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Next release of FlightGear

2004-07-17 Thread Jonathan Polley
Since there is a new release coming, I decided to bring the Mac version back up to date (I've been busy otherwise). When I exit FlightGear, I get the following errors (and crash). *** malloc[8626]: Deallocation of a pointer not malloced: 0x18bef000; This could be a double free(), or free()

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Next release of FlightGear

2004-07-17 Thread Vivian Meazza
Erik Hofman wrote Sent: 17 July 2004 10:27 To: FlightGear developers discussions Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] Next release of FlightGear Vivian Meazza wrote: SimGear-0.3.6-pre1 will not compile under Cygwin. It fails in [openal-test1.exe]: cannot find -lalut. This is using

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Next release of FlightGear

2004-07-17 Thread Frederic Bouvier
Line 92 of globals.cxx seems ok. subsystem_mgr was allocated with a new operator in line 45. Could you put a breakpoint at line 92 to see if on your system, the destructor is not called twice ? -Fred Jonathan Polley wrote: Since there is a new release coming, I decided to bring the Mac

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Next release of FlightGear

2004-07-17 Thread Erik Hofman
Vivian Meazza wrote: Once the offending entries are removed from simgear/sound, simgear compiles correctly, but Norman's pre-built libraries were still present. I'll remove those and try again. Nono, that's not what I meant. Norman once build a separate library for alut and openal, but in the end

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Next release of FlightGear

2004-07-17 Thread Innis Cunningham
Hi Curt I downloaded the windows binaries last night for 9.4 and the problem of the drop down menu's locking the sim up still seem to exist.Even if you go to exit FG and then select cancel the sim locks up. The reason that I downloaded the binaries was that I have just built a new box,that I am

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Next release of FlightGear

2004-07-17 Thread Vivian Meazza
Erik Hofman wrote Sent: 17 July 2004 14:51 To: FlightGear developers discussions Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] Next release of FlightGear Vivian Meazza wrote: Once the offending entries are removed from simgear/sound, simgear compiles correctly, but Norman's pre-built libraries

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Next release of FlightGear

2004-07-17 Thread Erik Hofman
Vivian Meazza wrote: I'm a bit confused now! There is really no need to be confused. Norman's last version put all the stuff into openal Good. That part is fixed in CVS no.w Unless test1 and test2 do something useful they can be easily removed from simgear/sound/makefile.am We sometimes include

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Next release of FlightGear

2004-07-17 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Sat, 17 Jul 2004 09:34:24 +0200, Frederic wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I wrote: Curtis L. Olson wrote: I've started doing some of the pre-release work for FlightGear-0.9.5(which is the next release.) That means I'd like to do our official next release in the next week

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Next release of FlightGear

2004-07-17 Thread Frederic Bouvier
Innis Cunningham wrote: Hi Curt I downloaded the windows binaries last night for 9.4 and the problem of the drop down menu's locking the sim up still seem to exist.Even if you go to exit FG and then select cancel the sim locks up. Hey Innis, you just downloaded the release that is 3

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Next release of FlightGear

2004-07-17 Thread Frederic Bouvier
I was too quick to press the reply button. I now see your motivations, so receive all my apologies. Frederic Bouvier wrote: Innis Cunningham wrote: Hi Curt I downloaded the windows binaries last night for 9.4 and the problem of the drop down menu's locking the sim up still seem to

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Next release of FlightGear

2004-07-17 Thread Norman Vine
Frederic Bouvier writes: Also I noticed that in the 9.4 base the runfgfs bat file has been removed. Was there a reason for this. It has been supercede by fgrun that is much user frendly. Until fgrun is distributed with FGFS I 'vote' for the batch file being reinstalled in the

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Next release of FlightGear

2004-07-17 Thread Frederic Bouvier
Norman Vine wrote: Frederic Bouvier writes: Also I noticed that in the 9.4 base the runfgfs bat file has been removed. Was there a reason for this. It has been supercede by fgrun that is much user frendly. Until fgrun is distributed with FGFS I 'vote' for the batch file

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Next release of FlightGear

2004-07-17 Thread Ampere K. Hardraade
Scrubbing FlightGear because of framerates was excatly what a friend of mine did. I agree with Innis that someone should fix this problem. Regards, Ampere On July 17, 2004 10:08 am, Innis Cunningham wrote: The following tests were done using windows 98SE The old box was a 850meg duron with

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Next release of FlightGear

2004-07-17 Thread Norman Vine
Frederic Bouvier writes: Norman Vine wrote: Frederic Bouvier writes: Also I noticed that in the 9.4 base the runfgfs bat file has been removed. Was there a reason for this. It has been supercede by fgrun that is much user frendly. Until fgrun is distributed with

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Next release of FlightGear

2004-07-17 Thread Norman Vine
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Frederic Bouvier Sent: Saturday, July 17, 2004 12:20 PM To: FlightGear developers discussions Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] Next release of FlightGear I was too quick to press the reply button. I

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Next release of FlightGear

2004-07-17 Thread Norman Vine
Frederic Bouvier writes: FG is not using the latest features new cards are offering and the 'old' features are pretty maxed out now. This is not an explanation for worst performance but just for lack of improvement. In the meantime, you probably switched to another setup/resolution that can

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Next release of FlightGear

2004-07-17 Thread Frederic Bouvier
Norman Vine wrote: Frederic Bouvier writes: Norman Vine wrote: Frederic Bouvier writes: Also I noticed that in the 9.4 base the runfgfs bat file has been removed. Was there a reason for this. It has been supercede by fgrun that is much user frendly.

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Next release of FlightGear

2004-07-17 Thread Boris Koenig
Frederic Bouvier wrote: Norman Vine wrote: Perhaps merntion of this should be made as a 'dependenciy' then on http://www.flightgear.org/Downloads/source.html Sorry Norman, but I don't understand. FlightGear does not depend on fgrun. It is just in the Win32 binary package since 0.9.3 and probably

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Next release of FlightGear

2004-07-17 Thread Frederic Bouvier
Norman Vine wrote: Frederic Bouvier writes: FG is not using the latest features new cards are offering and the 'old' features are pretty maxed out now. This is not an explanation for worst performance but just for lack of improvement. In the meantime, you probably switched to another

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Next release of FlightGear

2004-07-17 Thread Jonathan Polley
Fred, It turns out that the problem should exist on every FlightGear system, not just the Mac. On exit(), fgExitCleanup() is called which deletes the globals class and then calls fgOSExit(). The only thing that fgOSExit() does is turn around and call exit(), which repeats the process.

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Next release of FlightGear

2004-07-17 Thread Erik Hofman
Norman Vine wrote: Frederic Bouvier writes: fgrun is installed by fgsetup. It is launched when you double-click on the FG icon. Cool, Perhaps merntion of this should be made as a 'dependenciy' then on http://www.flightgear.org/Downloads/source.html IRIX and Solaris binaries also include it

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Next release of FlightGear

2004-07-17 Thread Erik Hofman
Ampere K. Hardraade wrote: Scrubbing FlightGear because of framerates was excatly what a friend of mine did. I agree with Innis that someone should fix this problem. The following tests were done using windows 98SE The old box was a 850meg duron with 256 meg ram and a GF4-MX-440 64meg graphics

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Next release of FlightGear

2004-07-17 Thread Ampere K. Hardraade
Please tell me that you don't play FlightGear in wireframe mode. =P Just kidding. Regards, Ampere On July 17, 2004 04:54 pm, Erik Hofman wrote: This is the penalty for those who want eye-candy. If specular highlighting is supported it will be enabled an make FlightGear slower. Erik

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Next release of FlightGear

2004-07-17 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Frederic Bouvier wrote: Just a thought : Maybe it would be wise to have a TerraGear release that match released SimGear as well ? That would avoid question about compatibility issues that are only resolved in CVS. Yes, I'm planning to do that soon, time permitting ... Curt. -- Curtis Olson

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Next release of FlightGear

2004-07-17 Thread Jon Stockill
Erik Hofman wrote: IRIX and Solaris binaries also include it by default. I'm not sure about other distributions, but I would encourage them to include it with the distribution. I include it with the slackware package too. Is there likely to be a new release of fgrun before the release of 0.9.5

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Next release of FlightGear

2004-07-17 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Erik Hofman wrote: IRIX and Solaris binaries also include it by default. I'm not sure about other distributions, but I would encourage them to include it with the distribution. I include it with the slackware package too. Is there likely to be a new release of fgrun before the

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Next release of FlightGear

2004-07-16 Thread Ampere K. Hardraade
The file or folder /site/ftp.flightgear.org/flightgear-ftp/Source/FlightGear-0.9.5-pre1.tar.gz does not exist. Did anyone encounter this problem? Regards, Ampere On July 16, 2004 11:34 am, Curtis L. Olson wrote: I've started doing some of the pre-release work for FlightGear-0.9.5 (which is

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Next release of FlightGear

2004-07-16 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Ampere K. Hardraade wrote: The file or folder /site/ftp.flightgear.org/flightgear-ftp/Source/FlightGear-0.9.5-pre1.tar.gz does not exist. Did anyone encounter this problem? Most likely sunsite hasn't sync'd it's mirror yet. You can always go direct to ftp://ftp.flightgear.org Regards,

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Next release of FlightGear

2004-07-16 Thread Durk Talsma
Curt and others, Just a quick question: Does this mean, we're entering a feature-freeze period now? The reason I'm asking is that I have some upates for the traffic manager that I was planning to clean-up a bit and submit by the end of the weekend. This new code, while humble in size, is going

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Next release of FlightGear

2004-07-16 Thread Martin Spott
Ampere K. Hardraade wrote: The file or folder /site/ftp.flightgear.org/flightgear-ftp/Source/FlightGear-0.9.5-pre1.tar.gz ^^ does not exist. Simply put a de. in there, Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective about who its friends are !

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Next release of FlightGear

2004-07-16 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Durk Talsma wrote: Curt and others, Just a quick question: Does this mean, we're entering a feature-freeze period now? Yes, I apologize for not being 100% clear ... I'm juggling way too many things this summer, but I'm still trying to get a release out. The reason I'm asking is that I have

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Next release of FlightGear

2004-07-16 Thread Ampere K. Hardraade
I've got an error during compiliation: -DPKGLIBDIR=\/usr/share/FlightGear/share/FlightGear\ -g -O2 -D_REENTRANT -c -o viewer.o `test -f viewer.cxx || echo './'`viewer.cxx source='viewmgr.cxx' object='viewmgr.o' libtool=no \ depfile='.deps/viewmgr.Po' tmpdepfile='.deps/viewmgr.TPo' \ depmode=gcc3

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Next release of FlightGear

2004-07-16 Thread Ampere K. Hardraade
Oh, I forgot to mention, I installed simgear in /usr/share/simgear and tried to do the same with FlightGear in /usr/share/FlightGear. I used the following commands when I was compiling FlightGear: ./configure --prefix=/usr/share/FlightGear --with-simgear=/usr/share/simgear make (with the error

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Next release of FlightGear

2004-07-16 Thread Ampere K. Hardraade
Correction: Not only is fgfs missing, but so are metar, terrasync, and (est-epsilon?). Regards, Ampere On July 17, 2004 12:42 am, Ampere K. Hardraade wrote: Oh, I forgot to mention, I installed simgear in /usr/share/simgear and tried to do the same with FlightGear in /usr/share/FlightGear. I