Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Aircraft/Rascal README.Rascal, NONE,

2005-11-30 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Martin Spott wrote: I'm very much surprised to see that you intend to use YASim for an aircraft, that you want to model based on existing flight data. Do you actually expect YASim to be the right tool for that job or is it simply leftover from using the Cub layout as basis ? I might miss the

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Aircraft/Rascal README.Rascal, NONE,

2005-11-30 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Martin Spott wrote: I'm very much surprised to see that you intend to use YASim for an aircraft, that you want to model based on existing flight data. Do you actually expect YASim to be the right tool for that job or is it simply leftover from using the Cub layout as basis ? I might miss the

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Aircraft/Lockheed1049/Models

2005-11-27 Thread Dave Culp
On Sunday 27 November 2005 05:19 pm, Martin Spott wrote: Sets correctly the VRP at the nose : Yep, the VRP appears actually to be located at the nose, but the offset to the CG is still missing :-) Have a try, look at the aircraft from an outside view (chase view w/o yaw), activate the HUD

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Aircraft/c182 c182-set.xml, 1.6,

2005-11-10 Thread Buchanan, Stuart
--- Martin Spott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I can't resist the suspicion that there's something wrong with the 3D model. At least I get the glider to see and I yet didn't find yout why. Several XML files and the AC file do have DOS line endings but this doesn't cause the trouble I've

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Aircraft/c182 c182-set.xml, 1.6,

2005-11-10 Thread Erik Hofman
Buchanan, Stuart wrote: Have you synced Instruments-3d ? The new C182 model requires the new yoke, flaps and trimwheel that I submitted at the same time. I assume they were all checked in at the same time. Oops, they hadn't. Erik ___

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Aircraft/c182 c182-set.xml, 1.6,

2005-11-10 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Martin Spott wrote: I can't resist the suspicion that there's something wrong with the 3D model. At least I get the glider to see and I yet didn't find yout why. Several XML files and the AC file do have DOS line endings but this doesn't cause the trouble I've already removed all of them,

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Aircraft/sr20 sr20-set.xml, NONE, 1.1

2005-10-09 Thread Erik Hofman
Martin Spott wrote: Erik Hofman wrote: Update of /var/cvs/FlightGear-0.9/data/Aircraft/sr20 In directory baron:/tmp/cvs-serv4330/Aircraft/sr20 Added Files: sr20-set.xml Log Message: Add some missing files. I'd suggest these changes to get things going: Ehm, allright. Done. Erik

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re:[Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Models/Airport beacon.xml, 1.8,

2005-05-31 Thread Mathias Fröhlich
On Montag 30 Mai 2005 08:50, Melchior FRANZ wrote: The FDMs are currently the only users of the groundcache, and yes, they benefit from it. A lot. Per-wheel/contact-point ground awareness hadn't been done before Mathias implemented the ground cache. And probably it would have been a big

Re: [Flightgear-devel]Re:[Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Models/Airport beacon.xml, 1.8,

2005-05-31 Thread Mathias Fröhlich
On Montag 30 Mai 2005 14:21, Jon Stockill wrote: I'm not certain the area that the ground cache covers, but I suspect it has applications beyond just contact points. ISTR Lee was wanting to know ground elevation a distance ahead of the aircraft for the terrain following mode of the TSR2s

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re:[Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Models/Airport beacon.xml, 1.8,

2005-05-30 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Jon Berndt -- Monday 30 May 2005 00:26: Melchior FRANZ wrote: When you fly over a beacon, the ground cache has to eat all these triangles, which makes the FDM stutter or even hang. Is the ground cache for the benefit of the FDM? The FDMs are currently the only users of the

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re:[Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Models/Airport beacon.xml, 1.8,

2005-05-30 Thread Dave Culp
Still, I didn't mean to blame the problems on the FDMs. I just called it FDM stuttering because this is what the user sees (and because the ground-cache code is in the FDM/ directory :-) But the FDM only stuttered, because it wasn't called in time, because of unfortunate groundcache/beacon

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re:[Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Models/Airport beacon.xml, 1.8,

2005-05-30 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Dave Culp -- Monday 30 May 2005 09:27: The groundcache/beacon interaction was only effecting the Yasim FDM, correct? I've only tested it with YASim (bo105, b1900d) where I saw it before, but not after fixing it. I can't say if it happened with JSBSim, although I use both regularly. m.

RE: [Flightgear-devel]Re:[Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Models/Airport beacon.xml, 1.8,

2005-05-30 Thread Jon Berndt
Is the ground cache for the benefit of the FDM? The FDMs are currently the only users of the groundcache, and yes, they benefit from it. A lot. Per-wheel/contact-point ground awareness hadn't been done before Mathias implemented the ground cache. And probably it would have been a big

Re: [Flightgear-devel]Re:[Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Models/Airport beacon.xml, 1.8,

2005-05-30 Thread Jon Stockill
Jon Berndt wrote: Is the ground cache for the benefit of the FDM? The FDMs are currently the only users of the groundcache, and yes, they benefit from it. A lot. Per-wheel/contact-point ground awareness hadn't been done before Mathias implemented the ground cache. And probably it would have

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re:[Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Models/Airport beacon.xml, 1.8,

2005-05-30 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Mon, 30 May 2005 08:50:43 +0200, Melchior wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]: * Jon Berndt -- Monday 30 May 2005 00:26: Melchior FRANZ wrote: When you fly over a beacon, the ground cache has to eat all these triangles, which makes the FDM stutter or even hang. Is the ground

Re: [Flightgear-devel]Re:[Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Models/Airport beacon.xml, 1.8,

2005-05-30 Thread Lee Elliott
On Monday 30 May 2005 13:21, Jon Stockill wrote: Jon Berndt wrote: Is the ground cache for the benefit of the FDM? The FDMs are currently the only users of the groundcache, and yes, they benefit from it. A lot. Per-wheel/contact-point ground awareness hadn't been done before Mathias

RE: [Flightgear-devel]Re:[Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Models/Airport beacon.xml, 1.8,

2005-05-30 Thread Jon Berndt
On Monday 30 May 2005 13:21, Jon Stockill wrote: I'm not certain the area that the ground cache covers, but I suspect it has applications beyond just contact points. ISTR Lee was wanting to know ground elevation a distance ahead of the aircraft for the terrain following mode of the TSR2s

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Models/Airport beacon.xml, 1.8,

2005-05-29 Thread Jon Stockill
Martin Spott wrote: Melchior Franz wrote: Update of /var/cvs/FlightGear-0.9/data/Models/Airport In directory baron:/tmp/cvs-serv27845 Modified Files: beacon.xml beacon.ac Jon, are you going to update the respective entry in our database ? It's not in there. Though there are database

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Models/Airport beacon.xml, 1.8,

2005-05-29 Thread Jon Stockill
Melchior FRANZ wrote: For those who care: these changes to the beacon solve one of the recently discussed problems with hanging FDM: The beacon is a quite expensive structure. It consists of about 1000 vertices and 950 triangles, all on the same spot. When you fly over a beacon, the ground

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Models/Airport beacon.xml, 1.8,

2005-05-29 Thread Frederic Bouvier
Melchior FRANZ a écrit : In less verbosity: this technique does only make sense for objects with high face *density*, not high face *number*. The beacon has a lot of vertical, or near vertical, faces. -Fred ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Re:[Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Models/Airport beacon.xml, 1.8,

2005-05-29 Thread Jon Berndt
Melchior FRANZ wrote: For those who care: these changes to the beacon solve one of the recently discussed problems with hanging FDM: The beacon is a quite expensive structure. It consists of about 1000 vertices and 950 triangles, all on the same spot. When you fly over a beacon, the

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Re:[Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Models/Airport beacon.xml, 1.8,

2005-05-29 Thread Jim Wilson
From: Jon Berndt Melchior FRANZ wrote: For those who care: these changes to the beacon solve one of the recently discussed problems with hanging FDM: The beacon is a quite expensive structure. It consists of about 1000 vertices and 950 triangles, all on the same spot.

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re:[Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Models/Airport beacon.xml, 1.8,

2005-05-29 Thread Mathias Fröhlich
On Montag 30 Mai 2005 03:55, Jim Wilson wrote: To answer your question, the ground cache is for the benefit of the pilot. :-) I could not say that better!!! :) Greetings Mathias -- Mathias Fröhlich, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Aircraft/fokker100/Models

2005-03-31 Thread Erik Hofman
Martin Spott wrote: The model looks very nice and the handling feels pretty easy. It's only Thanks. that I'm missing the cabin door being coupled to the parking brake as it was in your first version ;-) No, it's not ... :-) Erik ___ Flightgear-devel

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Models/Weather rain.ac, NONE,

2005-01-03 Thread Dave Martin
On Monday 03 Jan 2005 16:11, Martin Spott wrote: Erik Hofman wrote: Update of /var/cvs/FlightGear-0.9/data/Models/Weather In directory baron:/tmp/cvs-serv28318/Models/Weather Added Files: rain.ac rain.rgb rain.xml Log Message: Add a basic model for rain. Test w. the pc-7 This

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Models/Weather rain.ac, NONE,

2005-01-03 Thread Erik Hofman
Martin Spott wrote: Erik Hofman wrote: Update of /var/cvs/FlightGear-0.9/data/Models/Weather In directory baron:/tmp/cvs-serv28318/Models/Weather Added Files: rain.ac rain.rgb rain.xml Log Message: Add a basic model for rain. Test w. the pc-7 This looks quite interesting but I realize that this

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Models/Weather rain.ac, NONE,

2005-01-03 Thread Dave Martin
On Monday 03 Jan 2005 17:32, Erik Hofman wrote: Well, this will only cover a part of the rain problem. I had an idea a while back that being able to change the specular material setting for runways / taxiways 'on the fly' could produce the sort of wet 'sheen' you get on asphalt when it

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Models/Weather rain.ac, NONE,

2005-01-03 Thread Erik Hofman
Dave Martin wrote: On Monday 03 Jan 2005 17:32, Erik Hofman wrote: Well, this will only cover a part of the rain problem. I had an idea a while back that being able to change the specular material setting for runways / taxiways 'on the fly' could produce the sort of wet 'sheen' you get on

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data preferences.xml, 1.161, 1.162

2004-11-30 Thread David Megginson
On Tue, 30 Nov 2004 14:55:29 + (UTC), Martin Spott [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hm ? I thought Curt just made it working with stock PLIB - is it still broken ? It uses the AC3D crease directive, which stock plib doesn't support. More importantly, FlightGear still tries to load the Nimitz even when

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data preferences.xml, 1.161, 1.162

2004-11-30 Thread Jon Stockill
David Megginson wrote: On Tue, 30 Nov 2004 14:55:29 + (UTC), Martin Spott [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hm ? I thought Curt just made it working with stock PLIB - is it still broken ? It uses the AC3D crease directive, which stock plib doesn't support. At 03:47 today. Modified Files: nimitz.ac Log

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Data/AI

2004-11-23 Thread Richard Bytheway
From: Lee Elliott On Thursday 18 November 2004 21:03, Martin Spott wrote: Lee Elliott wrote: um, yes - the TSR-2 probably isn't the best a/c for carrier stuff. The FDM needs really an overhaul because the take-off performance isn't right - it currently lifts off at a lower speed

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Data/AI

2004-11-23 Thread Lee Elliott
On Tuesday 23 November 2004 13:59, Richard Bytheway wrote: From: Lee Elliott On Thursday 18 November 2004 21:03, Martin Spott wrote: Lee Elliott wrote: um, yes - the TSR-2 probably isn't the best a/c for carrier stuff. The FDM needs really an overhaul because the take-off

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Data/AI

2004-11-22 Thread Martin Spott
Lee Elliott wrote: On Sunday 21 November 2004 21:58, Arnt Karlsen wrote: ..you forget this plane was made to fight WWIII. ;-). In a nut shell, you've got it. Well, the project started in the late fifties, way past WWII. technical/manufacturing problems (there have been a surprisingly

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Data/AI

2004-11-22 Thread Lee Elliott
On Monday 22 November 2004 01:28, Arnt Karlsen wrote: On Mon, 22 Nov 2004 00:24:38 +, Lee wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Sunday 21 November 2004 21:58, Arnt Karlsen wrote: On Sun, 21 Nov 2004 21:32:12 + (UTC), Martin wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Lee

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Data/AI

2004-11-21 Thread Martin Spott
Lee Elliott wrote: I also believe the main gear was designed to tolerate less than perfect strips. Yes, the main gear looks to be very 'robust'. But I still wonder why they paid attention to these features. To my knowledge the TSR-2 was designed for long range and high cruise speed. This sort

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Data/AI

2004-11-21 Thread Lee Elliott
On Sunday 21 November 2004 21:58, Arnt Karlsen wrote: On Sun, 21 Nov 2004 21:32:12 + (UTC), Martin wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Lee Elliott wrote: I also believe the main gear was designed to tolerate less than perfect strips. Yes, the main gear looks to be very

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Data/AI

2004-11-19 Thread Lee Elliott
On Thursday 18 November 2004 21:03, Martin Spott wrote: Lee Elliott wrote: um, yes - the TSR-2 probably isn't the best a/c for carrier stuff. The FDM needs really an overhaul because the take-off performance isn't right - it currently lifts off at a lower speed if reheat isn't used :( -

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Data/AI

2004-11-18 Thread Vivian Meazza
Martin Spott wrote [...] Did you manage to take off? With a BO105 it's pretty easy, it is feasible with the C172 but for the TSR-2 the strip is too short. I was too lazy to shift the starting position to the beginning of the 'runway', otherwise it _might_ have worked out. So I crashed

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Data/AI

2004-11-18 Thread Martin Spott
Vivian Meazza wrote: I don't know. Mathias provides you with a perfectly good carrier-capable aircraft, and you use every other kind ... :-) Well, I'm doing everything in small steps: On the Octane it is a larger undertaking to rebuild FlightGear and after I've finished I'd like to know where

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Data/AI

2004-11-18 Thread Lee Elliott
On Thursday 18 November 2004 08:01, Vivian Meazza wrote: Martin Spott wrote [...] Did you manage to take off? With a BO105 it's pretty easy, it is feasible with the C172 but for the TSR-2 the strip is too short. I was too lazy to shift the starting position to the beginning of the

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Data/AI

2004-11-17 Thread Martin Spott
Melchior FRANZ wrote: It isn't anywhere in the scenery yet -- just in cvs. You have to add it yourself, or replace the saratoga with it. I added this in file $FG_ROOT/Scenery/Terrain/w130n30/w123n37/942057.stg: OBJECT_SHARED Models/Geometry/Nimitz/nimitz.ac -122.590 37.76 -7.0 90 Thanks,

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Data/AI

2004-11-17 Thread Vivian Meazza
Martin Spott wrote Melchior FRANZ wrote: It isn't anywhere in the scenery yet -- just in cvs. You have to add it yourself, or replace the saratoga with it. I added this in file $FG_ROOT/Scenery/Terrain/w130n30/w123n37/942057.stg: OBJECT_SHARED Models/Geometry/Nimitz/nimitz.ac -122.590

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Data/AI

2004-11-17 Thread Giles Robertson
] Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Data/AI Melchior FRANZ wrote: It isn't anywhere in the scenery yet -- just in cvs. You have to add it yourself, or replace the saratoga with it. I added this in file $FG_ROOT/Scenery/Terrain/w130n30/w123n37/942057.stg

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Data/AI

2004-11-17 Thread Mathias Frhlich
On Mittwoch 17 November 2004 10:29, Martin Spott wrote: Melchior FRANZ wrote: It isn't anywhere in the scenery yet -- just in cvs. You have to add it yourself, or replace the saratoga with it. I added this in file $FG_ROOT/Scenery/Terrain/w130n30/w123n37/942057.stg: OBJECT_SHARED

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Data/AInimitz_demo.xml, NONE, 1.1

2004-11-17 Thread Mathias Fröhlich
On Mittwoch 17 November 2004 11:29, Melchior FRANZ wrote: I applied all the stuff and it worked very well. My first carrier landing with the FA-18A succeeded already. The gear code is great! It's fun to taxi over slopes and actually see the aircraft follow them, rather than strangely sliding

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Data/AI

2004-11-17 Thread Martin Spott
Mathias Fr??hlich wrote: You will only be able to taxi on the carrier's deck with that JSBSim-dropin.tar.gz from the same ftp location. Well, this statement appears to be maybe mostly, but not entirely correct ;-) Apparently different rules apply when you put the carrier into the scenery:

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Data/AI

2004-11-17 Thread Mathias Frhlich
On Mittwoch 17 November 2004 22:20, Martin Spott wrote: Mathias Fr??hlich wrote: You will only be able to taxi on the carrier's deck with that JSBSim-dropin.tar.gz from the same ftp location. Well, this statement appears to be maybe mostly, but not entirely correct ;-) Apparently

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Data/AInimitz_demo.xml, NONE, 1.1

2004-11-17 Thread Mathias Fröhlich
Hi, On Mittwoch 17 November 2004 21:52, Melchior FRANZ wrote: Sure. Actually, I do know where it happened. I checked the backtrace, and wasn't thrilled: It was at program exit when freeing property nodes. That's why I didn't really attribute it to the new changes, although I hadn't seen that

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Data/AI

2004-11-17 Thread Martin Spott
Mathias Fr??hlich wrote: On Mittwoch 17 November 2004 22:20, Martin Spott wrote: http://document.ihg.uni-duisburg.de/bitmap/FGFS/Carrier_01.jpg [...] Did you manage to take off? With a BO105 it's pretty easy, it is feasible with the C172 but for the TSR-2 the strip is too short. I was

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Data/AI

2004-11-17 Thread Mathias Frhlich
On Donnerstag 18 November 2004 00:32, Martin Spott wrote: With a BO105 it's pretty easy, it is feasible with the C172 but for the TSR-2 the strip is too short. I was too lazy to shift the starting position to the beginning of the 'runway', otherwise it _might_ have worked out. So I crashed

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Data/AI

2004-11-17 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Thu, 18 Nov 2004 08:15:43 +0100, Mathias wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Donnerstag 18 November 2004 00:32, Martin Spott wrote: With a BO105 it's pretty easy, it is feasible with the C172 but for the TSR-2 the strip is too short. I was too lazy to shift the starting position to

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Data/AInimitz_demo.xml, NONE, 1.1

2004-11-16 Thread Vivian Meazza
Melchior FRANZ wrote: To be honest: I don't see any carrier. It isn't anywhere in the scenery yet -- just in cvs. You have to add it yourself, or replace the saratoga with it. I added this in file $FG_ROOT/Scenery/Terrain/w130n30/w123n37/942057.stg: OBJECT_SHARED

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs]CVS: data/Protocolacms.xml, NONE, 1.1

2004-10-17 Thread Norman Vine
Erik Hofman writes: Jon Berndt wrote: Erik Hofman wrote: Add a protocol for the ACMS protocol which seems to be used as an output format for black-box data flight data. This configuration does not work directly since there is no FDM available that reads the accelerations from the

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Docs/InstallGuide/html

2004-08-16 Thread Erik Hofman
Martin Spott wrote: Erik Hofman wrote: Update of /var/cvs/FlightGear-0.9/data/Docs/InstallGuide/html In directory baron:/tmp/cvs-serv7474/InstallGuide/html Modified Files: getstartch2.html Log Message: Reffer to /usr/locla/share/FlightGear now. You'd better mail such changes to me or at

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data options.xml, 1.31, 1.32

2004-08-15 Thread Erik Hofman
Frederic Bouvier wrote: Erik Hofman wrote: Modified Files: options.xml Log Message: Remove an obsolete option for airport-id. Erik, the option require an ICAO id, so I think this is the right option and find more logical to deprecate --airport instead. There should be no difference between

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data options.xml, 1.31, 1.32

2004-08-15 Thread Frederic Bouvier
Erik Hofman wrote: Frederic Bouvier wrote: Erik Hofman wrote: Modified Files: options.xml Log Message: Remove an obsolete option for airport-id. Erik, the option require an ICAO id, so I think this is the right option and find more logical to deprecate --airport instead.

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data options.xml, 1.31, 1.32

2004-08-15 Thread David Megginson
Frederic Bouvier wrote: Remove an obsolete option for airport-id. Erik, the option require an ICAO id, so I think this is the right option and find more logical to deprecate --airport instead. I'm with Erik on this one. Otherwise, we'd need to change --vor to --vor-id, --ndb to --ndb-id, etc.

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data options.xml, 1.31, 1.32

2004-08-15 Thread Erik Hofman
Frederic Bouvier wrote: It was just a problem of consistency between the name of the option and what it is really doing and expecting as argument. I noticed you didn't touch options.cxx yet so both are still valid. Yep. And I intend to keep it that way for at least a few months more. -- Searching

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data options.xml, 1.31, 1.32

2004-08-15 Thread Frederic Bouvier
David Megginson wrote: Frederic Bouvier wrote: Remove an obsolete option for airport-id. Erik, the option require an ICAO id, so I think this is the right option and find more logical to deprecate --airport instead. I'm with Erik on this one. Otherwise, we'd need to change --vor to

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Aircraft/bo105/Models README, NONE,

2004-03-26 Thread Josh Babcock
Melchior FRANZ wrote: * Martin Spott -- Friday 26 March 2004 15:37: Ha, there is a funny effect: Did you ever fly a loop which shadowing enabled ? When I do this, I see the shadow flipping through the sky - similar to a meteorite :-) Whoops ... I'll look into it, but I don't promise a

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Aircraft/bo105/Models bo105.ac, 1.8,

2004-03-25 Thread Jim Wilson
Curtis L. Olson said: Jim Wilson wrote: How about this one? ;-) http://www.spiderbark.com/fgfs/barneymobile.png Is that the don't-ask-don't-tellicopter. Haha! Is this what they call aviation innuendo? What about these folks: http://www.harrierpilot.com/oct01/purple.jpg They

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Aircraft/bo105/Models bo105.ac, 1.8,

2004-03-24 Thread Jim Wilson
Melchior FRANZ said: * Martin Spott -- Wednesday 24 March 2004 16:40: Ooooh, I found the yellow one definitely nicer, it was a cute, coloured spot in the colloection of mostly uniform coloured aircraft, Oh, well. Actually I like both versions. I just think that the yellow one got a bit

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Aircraft/bo105/Models bo105.ac, 1.8,

2004-03-24 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Jim Wilson wrote: How about this one? ;-) http://www.spiderbark.com/fgfs/barneymobile.png Is that the don't-ask-don't-tellicopter. Curt. -- Curtis Olson Intelligent Vehicles Lab FlightGear Project Twin Cities[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Minnesota

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Aircraft/bo105/Models bo105.ac, 1.8,

2004-03-24 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Wed, 24 Mar 2004 19:52:57 -0600, Curtis L. Olson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Jim Wilson wrote: How about this one? ;-) http://www.spiderbark.com/fgfs/barneymobile.png Is that the don't-ask-don't-tellicopter. ..using these names sounds like neat nice

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Scenery/w130n30/w123n37 942050.stg, 1.11, 1.12

2004-03-21 Thread Erik Hofman
Frederic Bouvier wrote: Erik Hofman wrote: Update of /var/cvs/FlightGear-0.9/data/Scenery/w130n30/w123n37 In directory baron:/tmp/cvs-serv5777 Modified Files: 942050.stg Log Message: Put a sock in it. Index: 942050.stg === RCS file:

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Aircraft/f16 f16-3d-set.xml, 1.1,

2004-03-18 Thread Erik Hofman
Martin Spott wrote: You should also modify this one: PropertyList include=f16-jsbsim-set.xml ^^ This is no longer present, Thanks for catching this. Erik ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Aircraft/pa28-161/Models

2004-03-12 Thread Roy Vegard Ovesen
On Thu, 11 Mar 2004 20:07:10 -0500, David Megginson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Was this in PLIB 1.6, again? The alpha transparency is fine using the CVS plib. I'm pretty sure it was CVS plib. -- Roy Vegard Ovesen ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs]CVS: data/Aircraft/pa28-161/Models

2004-03-12 Thread David Megginson
Frederic Bouvier wrote: Was this in PLIB 1.6, again? The alpha transparency is fine using the CVS I am using the CVS plib and I am seeing this bug. That's interesting -- is anyone else seeing this problem? All the best, David ___ Flightgear-devel

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs]CVS: data/Aircraft/pa28-161/Models

2004-03-12 Thread Erik Hofman
David Megginson wrote: Frederic Bouvier wrote: Was this in PLIB 1.6, again? The alpha transparency is fine using the CVS I am using the CVS plib and I am seeing this bug. That's interesting -- is anyone else seeing this problem? No, not for IRIX, not for Linux. Erik

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re:[Flightgear-cvslogs]CVS: data/Aircraft/pa28-161/Models

2004-03-12 Thread David Megginson
Frederic BOUVIER wrote: I don't know for the original bug reporter, but I am using Windows and NVIDIA if it is of any importance. That could matter -- I'm using Linux and NVIDIA. Do you have trouble with transparencies anywhere else? Do other people using Windows and NVIDIA see a white

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re:[Flightgear-cvslogs]CVS: data/Aircraft/pa28-161/Models

2004-03-12 Thread Frederic BOUVIER
David Megginson wrote: Frederic BOUVIER wrote: I don't know for the original bug reporter, but I am using Windows and NVIDIA if it is of any importance. That could matter -- I'm using Linux and NVIDIA. Do you have trouble with transparencies anywhere else? Do other people using

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs]CVS: data/Aircraft/pa28-161/Models

2004-03-12 Thread David Megginson
Melchior FRANZ wrote: All needles are OK. The only bug that I see is the non-transparent attitude 'needle': http://members.aon.at/mfranz/pa28.jpg Yes -- I have that problem as well -- it has something to do with drawing order. All the best, David ___

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs]CVS: data/Aircraft/pa28-161/Models

2004-03-12 Thread Frederic BOUVIER
David Megginson wrote : Melchior FRANZ wrote: All needles are OK. The only bug that I see is the non-transparent attitude 'needle': http://members.aon.at/mfranz/pa28.jpg Yes -- I have that problem as well -- it has something to do with drawing order. I am confused. We were speaking

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs]CVS: data/Aircraft/pa28-161/Models

2004-03-12 Thread Erik Hofman
Melchior FRANZ wrote: * Melchior FRANZ -- Friday 12 March 2004 15:59: All needles are OK. The only bug that I see is the non-transparent attitude 'needle': http://members.aon.at/mfranz/pa28.jpg The SGI image seems to be OK, though (and I'm an SGI image expert :-). I'll look into plib ... Yep,

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re:[Flightgear-cvslogs]CVS: data/Aircraft/pa28-161/Models

2004-03-12 Thread Roy Vegard Ovesen
On Fri, 12 Mar 2004 10:03:00 -0500, David Megginson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Frederic BOUVIER wrote: I don't know for the original bug reporter, but I am using Windows and NVIDIA if it is of any importance. That could matter -- I'm using Linux and NVIDIA. Do you have trouble with

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs]CVS: data/Aircraft/pa28-161/Models

2004-03-12 Thread David Megginson
Frederic BOUVIER wrote: Another thing that I noticed about the pa28 panel was the plane in the TC was not transparent where it should be. The rgb file did have an alpha channel but because the file was only 256 colors the alpha channel was not transparent in FlightGear. It was OK when I opened it

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs]CVS: data/Aircraft/pa28-161/Models

2004-03-12 Thread David Megginson
Melchior FRANZ wrote: No. plib has a bug: it doesn't recognize grayscale images with alpha layer yet. See ssgLoadSGI.cxx:301, where the alpha information is wrongly written to the blue layer, while the alpha layer is disabled. :-] Ah -- that explains what's going on here. I had thought that the

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Aircraft/sgs126/Panels

2004-03-12 Thread Erik Hofman
Martin Spott wrote: Erik Hofman wrote: Here are two files for the sgs126. The sgs126-jsbsim-set.xml file now starts the glider in the air by default. I think some people didn't know it is a glider, [...] I assume we already have two of them: The ASW-20 and the SGS 126 - don't we ? Yes, but

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Aircraft/pa28-161/Models

2004-03-11 Thread David Megginson
Martin Spott wrote: This aircraft gets really nice. Thanks. The big breakthrough was my finally learning to use Blender to make the textures (such as the panel plastics and screws) as well as the geometry -- using a good 3D modeller with a bit of lighting can make even a ham-fisted dolt like

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Aircraft/pa28-161/Models

2004-03-11 Thread David Luff
Martin Spott writes: David Megginson wrote: Update of /var/cvs/FlightGear-0.9/data/Aircraft/pa28-161/Models In directory baron:/tmp/cvs-serv6690/Aircraft/pa28-161/Models Modified Files: pa28-161.ac panel.rgb Added Files: bench-back.rgb glareshield.rgb Log Message:

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Aircraft/pa28-161/Models

2004-03-11 Thread David Megginson
David Luff wrote: I'll second that - it really is good. It looks really good, and at high resolutions the frame rate is much better than the default - I've seen 60 (pa28) vs. 30 (c172) at some locations and resolutions. The old (2D) panel code seemed to be the real killer, since I'm using much

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Aircraft/pa28-161/Models

2004-03-11 Thread Roy Vegard Ovesen
On Thu, 11 Mar 2004 17:10:30 +, David Luff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One bug though - I don't see the instrument needles under Linux with an NVidia card. I thought you simply hadn't done them, until I saw them under Cygwin with an ATI card. I see the large tilting plane in the turn

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Aircraft/pa28-161/Models

2004-03-11 Thread Jon Stockill
On Thu, 11 Mar 2004, David Megginson wrote: I used geometry for the needles, and they must just be too narrow to show up. It's strange, because I also use Linux+NVIDIA (GeForce2Go), and the needles do show up on my system at 1600x1200. In any case, I'll be switching to bigger quads with

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Aircraft/pa28-161/Models

2004-03-11 Thread David Megginson
Roy Vegard Ovesen wrote: I too, experienced this, no needles in the instruments. I use a NVidia card under Cygwin. After installing the cvs version of plib, the needles appeared (I used to have plib 1.6.0). Ah, yes -- the last official PLIB version has a bug (I can hardly consider it a

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs]CVS: data/Aircraft/pa28-161/Models

2004-03-11 Thread Frederic Bouvier
David Megginson wrote: Roy Vegard Ovesen wrote: Another thing that I noticed about the pa28 panel was the plane in the TC was not transparent where it should be. The rgb file did have an alpha channel but because the file was only 256 colors the alpha channel was not transparent in

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Aircraft/Instruments/Textures radar_misc.rgb, 1.1, 1.2

2004-02-27 Thread Erik Hofman
David Megginson wrote: Erik Hofman wrote: Modified Files: radar_misc.rgb Log Message: Add support for a storm blib Excellent. As far as I know, civilian airliners carry radar that is capable only of detecting weather, not small things like aircraft. They also use a separate radar system

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Aircraft/Instruments/Textures radar_misc.rgb, 1.1, 1.2

2004-02-27 Thread David Megginson
Erik Hofman wrote: I know that in Europe they recently added a requirement for collision detection after two civilian aircraft hit each other when the ATC had given inappropriate directions. Is that a requirement for TCAS, or for something else in addition to TCAS? The copilot on one of those

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Aircraft/Instruments/Textures radar_misc.rgb, 1.1, 1.2

2004-02-27 Thread Erik Hofman
David Megginson wrote: Erik Hofman wrote: I know that in Europe they recently added a requirement for collision detection after two civilian aircraft hit each other when the ATC had given inappropriate directions. Is that a requirement for TCAS, or for something else in addition to TCAS?

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Aircraft/Instruments/Textures radar_misc.rgb, 1.1, 1.2

2004-02-27 Thread Mathias Fröhlich
On Freitag, 27. Februar 2004 15:40, David Megginson wrote: That said, I'm sorry to hear that the Swiss controller died. Was it in any way related to the accident? It was not clear up to the yesterday evening news. Have not seen/heared news from today. Greetings Mathias -- Mathias

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Aircraft/Instruments/Textures radar_misc.rgb, 1.1, 1.2

2004-02-27 Thread Josh Babcock
Erik Hofman wrote: David Megginson wrote: Erik Hofman wrote: I know that in Europe they recently added a requirement for collision detection after two civilian aircraft hit each other when the ATC had given inappropriate directions. Is that a requirement for TCAS, or for something else in

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Aircraft/Instruments/Textures radar_misc.rgb, 1.1, 1.2

2004-02-27 Thread Lee Elliott
On Friday 27 February 2004 14:02, David Megginson wrote: Erik Hofman wrote: Modified Files: radar_misc.rgb Log Message: Add support for a storm blib Excellent. As far as I know, civilian airliners carry radar that is capable only of detecting weather, not small things like

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Airports metar.dat.gz, NONE, 1.1

2004-02-23 Thread Curtis L. Olson
David Megginson wrote: Curtis L. Olson wrote: A simple list of id's of metar stations. We can use this list to mark which airports have corresponding metar data so we don't flood the noaa site with bogus queries. It might be a good idea actually to add lat/lon/elev of each station to the

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Airportsmetar.dat.gz, NONE, 1.1

2004-02-23 Thread Norman Vine
Curtis L. Olson writes: David Megginson wrote: Curtis L. Olson wrote: A simple list of id's of metar stations. We can use this list to mark which airports have corresponding metar data so we don't flood the noaa site with bogus queries. It might be a good idea actually to

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Airportsmetar.dat.gz, NONE, 1.1

2004-02-23 Thread Norman Vine
Melchior FRANZ writes: * Curtis L. Olson -- Monday 23 February 2004 18:27: Any one know where we can get current and definitive information? Here is a list of weather stations with ICAO ids. But it's not obvious if all of these do also provide metar reports:

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Aircraft/pa28-161

2004-02-12 Thread David Megginson
Martin Spott wrote: I can't withstand the impression that changing the _camera_ position didn't lead to the intended success. Take a simple stick and rotate it around one of its ends. For an observer the phenomenon is still the same even when he changes his viewpoint. If you want to rotate the

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Aircraft/pa28-161

2004-02-12 Thread Jim Wilson
David Megginson [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Martin Spott wrote: I can't withstand the impression that changing the _camera_ position didn't lead to the intended success. Take a simple stick and rotate it around one of its ends. For an observer the phenomenon is still the same even when he

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Aircraft/pa28-161/Models

2004-02-11 Thread David Megginson
Jim Wilson wrote: Actually, it isn't that. It is just the location that the camera points to. You don't want it pointing at the nose. So add the entry below to the external views in your xml wrapper that track the plane. The value is the distance in meters from the FDM reference point (the

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Aircraft/pa28-161/Models

2004-02-11 Thread Curtis L. Olson
David Megginson wrote: Thanks -- that did the trick. The plane is actually flying well, and I'm starting to feel tempted to go back and do more work to make it a fully-usable alternative to the [EMAIL PROTECTED]@#na 172 -- after all, it would be nice for users to be able to fly a light single

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Aircraft/pa28-161/Models

2004-02-11 Thread Jim Wilson
David Megginson [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: I wonder if we can model the broken air vent door on the pilot's side that blows -35 degC air on my feet when I'm flying in the winter. It's already there (parameter: --frostbite=mins where mins is number of minutes before you lose your toes). With

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Aircraft/pa28-161/Models

2004-02-11 Thread David Megginson
Jim Wilson wrote: I wonder if we can model the broken air vent door on the pilot's side that blows -35 degC air on my feet when I'm flying in the winter. It's already there (parameter: --frostbite=mins where mins is number of minutes before you lose your toes). With that all you need is an old

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