Re: FLUXLIST: Re: FLUXLIST BOX #2

2003-01-02 Thread Owen Smith
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: >The results of the first box can be found here: >http://www.fluxus.org/FLUXLIST/box1/boxfram.html > >I think each person made 50 editions of a work and contributed $5 to cover postage >and materials (the box). Everyone got 1 box with one of each submission. I do not >r

Re: FLUXLIST: make that THREE and FOUR

2003-01-02 Thread Owen Smith
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > >Yes. As I have also stated backchannel: it is wrong to >exclude people from an open list. > >/:b > > >On Thu, 2 Jan 2003, Bertrand Clavez wrote: > >> Dear Allen, >> >> I can't believe you've thrown away these fluxlisters! >> and if this is the case, I can't agree with s

Re: FLUXLIST: FLUXLIST BOX #2?

2003-01-01 Thread Owen Smith
I second and third Josh's and Melissa's ideas about a second box for/of the fluxlist. I am also happy to help out in any way needed along with contributing. It seems to me that there are two aspects that would be nice to work into this project: 1. a collection of scores since there have been seve

Re: FLUXLIST: greets from Lithuania!

2002-12-28 Thread Owen Smith
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > >Here, in Lithuania, one really decent Fluxus book was published some time ago. Though >i'm not sure if it's translated to other languages, but it has got some great pieces >from Maciunas mom's diary, thoughts of Jonas Mekas and other fluxers (you >know who they are) w

Re: FLUXLIST: ROOTS OF FLUXUs

2002-12-23 Thread Owen Smith
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: >so in other words fluxus is indefinable? Not so much indefinable because Fluxus has a simple insistence on Fluxus is what it is (a moment in time, a group of artists, an attitude, etc), but it is specifically indefinable through traditional existentialist definitional

Re: FLUXLIST: gossip ?

2002-12-12 Thread Owen Smith
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: >> Searched the web for gossip. >> Results 1 - 10 of about 2,870,000. > >brilliant ! > >thanks. > >ps : >Searched the web for urinals. > >Results 1 - 10 of about 71,800. Search took 0.12 >seconds. > >richard > Search

Re: FLUXLIST: ?? Jonas Mekas Presente Flux Friends

2002-12-11 Thread Owen Smith
Excellent info Bertrand - thanks. . . . Owen

Re: FLUXLIST: yoko / toronto /catalog

2002-12-11 Thread Owen Smith
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > >this is weird. the notice says it's about 160p . . . you are probably right - I was just guessing since I did not have the book in front of me - it is about 5.5x8.5 paper and about 3/8 thick. > > >I know that a similar title was published in Lithuania >about 2 years

Re: FLUXLIST: ?? Jonas Mekas Presente Flux Friends

2002-12-09 Thread Owen Smith
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: >Jonas Mekas Presente Flux Friends - George Maciunas,Yoko Ono,John Lennon >Centre Georges Pompidou ; ISBN: 284426137X ; (2002/10) > >Can anyone point to an online bookshop in Paris, or maybe one in Nice for in person >purchase [ a friend will be there in January] ?

Re: FLUXLIST: Fluxus Codex remaindered...

2002-12-02 Thread Owen Smith
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > >Greetings... > >Don't know if this is old news or new news >or good news, but... > >I was at Moe's in Berkeley on Saturday and >they had Fluxus Codex remaindered at >$48 plus the new Fluxus Experience book. >My wallet came in handy. Neal - I hate to say this now,

Re: > Subject: FLUXLIST: more bookcases...

2002-11-26 Thread Owen Smith
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: >Hi, I will be very interested in reading more about >this volume > >Richard I got Hannah's book last week and read it on the plane to the Paris Fluxus symposium and I can say that the book is great - it is easy to read, informative and gives some new and interesting

Re: FLUXLIST: A review...

2002-09-23 Thread Owen Smith
the posted review is in reference to: Shiomi, Mieko A MUSICAL DICTIONARY OF 80 PEOPLE AROUND FLUXUS Koln: ? Records, 2002 Standard audio CD in jewel case with 16pp insert. Shiomi's short musical pieces are created from creating musical anagrams from pitches obtained from the person's name - fro

Re: FLUXLIST: Inspiration

2002-07-11 Thread Owen Smith
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > >Never seen Better Homes and Gardens magazine but have some old pet care >books for unusual pets (e.g. crocodiles, just bought the book but never >found anywhere selling crocodiles :( ) published by TFH Publications I >think, very cool. In the same category I

Re: FLUXLIST: Genoa Fluxus CATALOG

2002-06-12 Thread Owen Smith
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: >Owen, > >do you own a copy of this book ? > >It says it's got some Yoko Ono content. > >Can you please describe ? Richard - unfortunately I do not own a copy (yet) but I have looked a it and read some of the essays - unfortunately I do not remember the specific Ono re

Re: FLUXLIST: interviews with Knowles

2002-06-06 Thread Owen Smith
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: >Besides "Fluxus: a Conceptual Country" and M/E/A/N/I/N/G, where may I find interviews >with Alison Knowles? Josh - there is a nice interview/discussion between Hannah and Alison in the recent Genoa Fluxus catalog. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=15

Re: RE: FLUXLIST: Spoons

2002-03-28 Thread Owen Smith
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > &item=852808885 Did you see who the high bidder is. . . .? milan.knizak I wonder if that is the Milan. . . . . Owen

Re: FLUXLIST:by the by...

2002-03-08 Thread Owen Smith
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: >Hm, > I had been told by an English professor that Edgar Allen Poe >invented the word, but when I looked it up in the American Heritage >Dictionary, it appeared as though the roots came from Latin... stranger >still, all the other dictionaries I checked attrib

Re: FLUXLIST: The real old thing

2002-02-27 Thread Owen Smith
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: >Somebody please be kind enough to tell me what Fluxus really is. >Clearly, I must've been mistaken, as there is plenty of hostility and >negativity concerning false Fluxus and who is more Fluxus than someone >else. Mr. Andersen, I acknowledge your history with

Re: FLUXLIST: Fwd: I need informations

2002-02-25 Thread Owen Smith
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: >i had the great fortune (and fun) to perform , at the grand opening and on >the 2 performance days, as well as go on the Fluxus Tour. I joined in with >"octet for winds", "Four directional songs of doubt" and did Tomas Schmit's >"Zyklus" Sounds great Alan - out of curi

Re: FLUXLIST: the fox

2002-01-28 Thread Owen Smith
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > >Hey there. Does anyone have any issues of the Sarah Charlesworth/Joseph >Kosuth theory magazine 'The Fox'? There were three issues, I think from >around 1975-6. Anne - I have issue issue #3 and it was published in 1976 - issues 1 and 2 of the three issues were pu

Re: FLUXLIST: does fluxus exist? a simplistic approach...

2001-12-03 Thread Owen Smith
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: >Owen, Do have an address for Barbara Moore? Art metrople? Thanks, -Don you can reach Barbara through: Bound & Unbound, New York, NY, U.S.A., 10001. Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you can access Art metropole through their web site at: http://www.artmetropole.com/site/i

Re: FLUXLIST: does fluxus exist? a simplistic approach...

2001-11-30 Thread Owen Smith
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: >I seem to remember that Barbara Moore reissued a bunch of fluxboxes under >that imprint. It was reflux (not refluxus). i think that you still might be able to get some of them from Barbara or from some of the places that carried the like Printed Matter or Art Metropol

FLUXLIST: Ken Friedman work

2001-11-29 Thread Owen Smith
To any and all interested parties Ken Friedman just send me a copy of a new work of his called 52 events. It is a calendar for the year 2002 with an even score for each week. It is being published by Show and Tell Editions (information follows if you want to but a printed one) but Ken also sent

Re: FLUXLIST: Re: a simplistic appraoch...., 2

2001-11-29 Thread Owen Smith
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > >Some contemporary Fluxus workers (e.g. Joe DeMarco) are using the term >avant-Flux...I think this is fairly appropriate. > >cheers, > >Sol. > If Fluxus was the rear-garde (as maciunas sometimes described it) then maybe what is being discussed here

Re: FLUXLIST:Who wants one of these?

2001-11-25 Thread Owen Smith
Anything. > >-Robert Robert - Yes indeed I would like to receive one and I will send something (else) in return. Owen Send it to (please): Owen Smith Department of Art 5712 Carnegie Hall University of Maine Orono ME 04469 Thanks in advance. . . . .

Re: FLUXLIST: LaurieAnderson?

2001-10-31 Thread Owen Smith
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: >Laurie Anderson on David Letterman tonight? How very fluxus >of him. Hopefully I will stay awake. > >PK > So is this a trick or a treat? Owen

Re: FLUXLIST: talking about a waste of money event

2001-10-29 Thread Owen Smith
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > >i intend to produce an edition of 5 photocopied booklets > >i will sell them for photocopies of money, any currency > >make me an offer. a - . . . . how about a copy of an ileagally scanned (i.e. counterfit) 50.00 USD bill that I recieved from another artis

Re: FLUXLIST: Newton and Leibnitz

2001-09-05 Thread Owen Smith
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: >Whatever happened to? Heck, he's probably head of some Arts Program >someplace! UCLA (or was up to a few years ago)

Re: FLUXLIST: the robbery

2001-08-03 Thread Owen Smith
[EMAIL PROTECTED],InetGW2 writes: > >Dear all, > >yesterday a guy broke into my house, thankfuly I was arriving at the >moment >he ran out. He took things that he could sell easily, and a lot of little >rings, necklaces and bracelets that didn't have any commercial value, >only >sentimental (fo

Re: FLUXLIST: West Coast Query

2001-07-18 Thread Owen Smith
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: >I'm leaving (on a jet plane) for the West Coast in half an hour. Will be >staying in Oakland and Santa Cruz areas until Wednesday next. Anybody out >there? Any chance of a meeting? I *hope* to be able to check my e-mail >*and* >to have some free time > >Melissa

Re: FLUXLIST: tests

2001-07-05 Thread Owen Smith
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: >Dear Tamas, > >Great tests and proposal for maillist. Finally some spirit on the list. >It is interesting to see how silent everybody becomes, when your voice >is heard. > >You seem to scare the mice. > >All the bests, >Eric > Eric and/or Tamas - Somehow I seemed to hav

FLUXLIST: call for papers on Fluxus

2001-06-26 Thread Owen Smith
a special issue. Guest editors Ken Friedman and Owen Smith will coordinate this issue. The editors will welcome proposals and complete papers on any topic or theme relevant to Fluxus, the Fluxus artists and composers, or their work. Themes "Fluxus is what Fluxus does -- but no one knows wh

Re: FLUXLIST: magic-bean performance

2001-06-18 Thread Owen Smith
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > >In actual practice, however, distinctions between the two >interpretations amount to precious little. A state of >affairs (as with most face-offs between interpretations) not >unlike calling the same food by two different names. I would agree in general terms but reve

Re: FLUXLIST: Re: brads pics

2001-06-18 Thread Owen Smith
[EMAIL PROTECTED],InetGW2 writes: >what counts >most is taste. Whose taste - yours, mine, or Greenberg's?? And as far as the Brad stuff goes, we are all appropriating in one way or another aren't we? It is the presentation that is more significant than the origination or creation, or at least t

Re: FLUXLIST: Re: FLUXLIST- Pariah tshirt

2001-06-14 Thread Owen Smith
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: >Great Snoring This is a town in England? Wow, so how in the world this this come about?? I like this one - we could be the Great Snorting Pariahs!!! Owen

Re: FLUXLIST: who amungst you.......

2001-06-14 Thread Owen Smith
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: >would like a sack of air? Sure - I already have some other works that are air based > > >and what will you barter? - how about a bag of beans? - In honor of Alison they are very Fluxy beans (no pun intended). Owen >

Re: FLUXLIST: Re: FLUXLIST- Pariah tshirt

2001-06-14 Thread Owen Smith
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: >Would Team Pariah members mind paying @$10 or so US to cover costs of >production? Then I can get them made--(actually, payable upon rec't of >shirt is >ok) > >Places, places-- > >AK Yes, that is fine with me - so will we have a logo or a mascot?? or for that matter ev

Re: FLUXLIST: Pariahs

2001-06-11 Thread Owen Smith
Ann - Count me in as well as a member of the Pariahs as well (and interested in a shirt as well). As to the place name if we are looking for a "P" I am partial to Pokatello. . . . Owen

Re: FLUXLIST: RE: anti-art

2001-06-08 Thread Owen Smith
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: >As far as I know Manzoni did not sell these for very much, due to >Manzoni's >untimely early death the items fell prey to spectacular commodification by >collectors. It was not them amount but the process of equivalency that was a key here the cans were sold based on th

FLUXLIST: Performance?

2001-05-29 Thread Owen Smith
This was sent to me this morning and I thought that it had Fluxus potential and that some of you on the list might want to participate. Owen Subject: summer solstice Celebrate the solstice in a meaningful way!! This could be fun! Regardless of your politics, please consider participatin

FLUXLIST: stuff and such

2001-05-28 Thread Owen Smith
Fluxlisters - Been offline/list for a bit and upon return found lots of posts, some interesting some not - but in general I must say that all of the exchanges are oddly enough very Fluxus - bickering has a long history in Fluxus and I guess as we are exploring the nature and dynamics of Fluxus,

Re: FLUXLIST: RE: while i'm at it

2001-05-28 Thread Owen Smith
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: >This afternoon I spent hours going through boxes of tapes from hundreds >or people around the world, really really bad noise music tapes, much of >them existing seemingly for the sole purpose of using the word "shit" in >the title. I am sure all of this was intended to b

Re: FLUXLIST: e-mail my body (addresses)

2001-05-13 Thread Owen Smith
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > >...pez osiris > >send the right addreess >to my [EMAIL PROTECTED] > If you still need my email it is [EMAIL PROTECTED] I am looking forward to seeing the project up on line. . . . Owen

Re: FLUXLIST: fluxlistbox

2001-05-13 Thread Owen Smith
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: >hey. hey, hey >it did arrived my flulistbox! >i cant' belive > >thanks sol pez - After all this time Wow!!! That's great. . . . Owen

FLUXLIST: new project/site

2001-04-07 Thread Owen Smith
For those of you who might be interested I just uploaded a new documentation site for a project that I worked on last year, called the Canned Chance Project: http://www.altarts.org/tstcn/index.html Part of the project was connected to my participation in the Fluxlist Timepieces project. For th

Re: FLUXLIST: living in the ice age vol. 2

2001-03-28 Thread Owen Smith
[EMAIL PROTECTED],.Internet writes: >some quotes from the liner notes of a recent cd that i >picked up called, "living in the ice age vol.2 - stamps, >headphone music & lazy penpals: So where did you find this interesting sounding CD, is it available still?? Thanks for any info, Owen

FLUXLIST: for PK

2001-03-21 Thread Owen Smith
PK - I had tried to send you something off list but the message was bounced: (reason: 553 5.3.0 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>... RELAY REJECT Mail blocked because of access spam from redshift.com RELAY) Is there another/ better email that I can send something to you using, or?? contact me back offlist

Re: FLUXLIST: fluxfun, or not. . .

2001-03-15 Thread Owen Smith
[EMAIL PROTECTED],.Internet writes: >Inspired by Owen's animation I give you a fetching bouncing maciunas >head >with multimedia enhancements, a ready screensaver (but for PC only, >sorry >Mac people). Runs on win 3.1,95,98 etc. Download it from >http://www.artden.freeserve.co.uk/maciunas/ >I wr

Re: FLUXLIST: fluxfun, or not. . .

2001-03-15 Thread Owen Smith
[EMAIL PROTECTED],.Internet writes: >It's very charming, Owen! I will use it as a screensaver--can I?- Ann - sure feel free to use it however you want - also if anyone else wants to use the code to make their own animation just replace the image and ref in the code with you own and viola . . . .

FLUXLIST: fluxfun, or not. . .

2001-03-14 Thread Owen Smith
I was bored today so I made a page to leave on your computer when you are not using it. . . . . . http://www.altarts.org/fluxfun/george.html

FLUXLIST: seed projects?

2001-03-07 Thread Owen Smith
For all those of you who are involved with the Fluxlist seed project or plants etc. check out this offering on ebay: http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1413495487 Owen

Re: FLUXLIST: spots

2001-02-18 Thread Owen Smith
[EMAIL PROTECTED],.Internet writes: >My tomatoes plants have light colored spots all over the leaves what >could >cause this and how do I fix them? Tomatoes with spots? I can't even think about growing tomatoes at this point - the current temp this morning is -35F degrees (with windchill) in t

Re: FLUXLIST: response to Bertrand

2000-12-11 Thread Owen Smith
[EMAIL PROTECTED],.Internet writes: >What do you think of Postface/JB as a history of Fluxus? This is one of the key historical first hand descriptions of the early Fluxus performance festivals in Europe. The descriptions are directly based on a 14 page letter that Dick sent to the US while he

Re: FLUXLIST: Mechanics of Viri on MS

2000-11-29 Thread Owen Smith
[EMAIL PROTECTED],.Internet writes: >Again and again misleading nonsense flourish on the list. The term >Fluxus was >used in connection with performance the first time in Europe in 1962 >and the >first Fluxus publication, The Roll, was printed in Wiesbaden in 1963. Eric - you are right that thes

Re: FLUXLIST: The Seed Exchange: ANNUAL PLANTS (fwd)

2000-11-08 Thread Owen Smith
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: >Anyone still interested in a Fluxlist Seed Exchange? >I'm still willing to coordinate. >A small, thin, handmade paper pkg might be appropriate: 2 x 3.25 inches >max size. >There should be room for 30-40 contributions in each lovely rusted metal >tin that I can supply.

Re: FLUXLIST: A._S.L.O.T.H.

2000-11-02 Thread Owen Smith
[EMAIL PROTECTED],.Internet writes: >I probably shouldn't post the entire A._S.L.O.T.H. text. It's quite >long, >but I can send it directly to whoever is interested. (As a MS Word >attachment preferably) Aaron - can you send me a copy of the entire doc at [EMAIL PROTECTED], thanks. . . . On th

FLUXLIST: anagrams for"I love Fluxus"

2000-10-11 Thread Owen Smith
FIVE LULU SOX FIVE SOUL LUX OLIVE FLU SUX OLIVE FLUX US LEVIS FUX LOU LEVI FOUL SUX LEVI FLU OX US LEVI OF LUX US LEVI FUX SOUL LIVE FOUL SUX LIVE FLU OX US LIVE OF LUX US LIVE FUX SOUL VEIL FOUL SUX VEIL FLU OX US VEIL OF LUX US VEIL FUX SOUL EVIL FOUL SUX EVIL FLU OX US EVIL OF LUX US EVIL FUX S

Re: FLUXLIST: unholy marriage/Fluxus "old boys"

2000-10-10 Thread Owen Smith
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: >Well, I read this but I have to say that most of it seems to miss the >point >of Fluxus (or at least as I understand it) that works are to be simple >yet >thought provoking. Interestingly enough this was one of the major complaints about the paper when it was first giv

Re: FLUXLIST: addendum

2000-10-09 Thread Owen Smith
[EMAIL PROTECTED],.Internet writes: >there are only one or two images that >i'm aware of - of the couple changing into each others wedding outfits. There are actually a whole series (10 or 12) of this exchange which were published in one of the last issues of ccVTRE- in fact Peter Moore took seve

FLUXLIST: thoughts on Fluxus part 3

2000-09-21 Thread Owen Smith
I would like to conclude my thoughts on Fluxus by returning to the idea that I mentioned earlier, (and one that both Sol and George brought up in their responses) that of cognitive intermedia. The general focus of many Fluxus type works is on the process of meaning-making which highlights the con

Re: FLUXLIST: thoughts on fluxus part 2

2000-09-21 Thread Owen Smith
[EMAIL PROTECTED],.Internet writes: >Aren't all art works materially intermedial? Even paint has to go onto a >surface and that surface isn't paint but another medium. Sol - Not really - your example uses two materials but both are within the same medium, so it is still a traditional single medi

Re: FLUXLIST: thoughts on fluxus part 2

2000-09-21 Thread Owen Smith
[EMAIL PROTECTED],.Internet writes: >Personally, you'd have to convince me, Owen, that the notions of >intermedia and >Derrida's difference are fruitfully related. George - you raise a good point here (also that Dick was at the very least suspicious of Derrida) and I am not sure that I can convi

FLUXLIST: thoughts on fluxus part 2

2000-09-15 Thread Owen Smith
Thoughts on Fluxus part 2 (of 3) In a general sense all Fluxus activities seek to question meaning and significance as fixed, pre-determined, or even determinable through the functioning of what has been described as "higher social contracts," that is social situations as a manifestation of powe

FLUXLIST: thoughts on Fluxus part 1

2000-09-14 Thread Owen Smith
Hearing no cries to the contrary, here we go "thoughts on Fluxus Part 1" At the end of his 1953 "Manifesto for Concrete Poetry" Ovid Fahlstrom wrote: ". . . what I have called concrete literature is not a style, any more than concrete music or non-figurative art is. It is partly a way for the r

Re: FLUXLIST: response Sol

2000-09-14 Thread Owen Smith
Sol, Patricia, Disco and any and all other Fluxlister - Over the last few years as I have explored Fluxus I have become increasingly dissatisfied with traditional scholarly or historical approaches to the subject of Fluxus (mine included). I have to say that one of the things that bothers me the

Re: FLUXLIST: another trade

2000-07-17 Thread Owen Smith
[EMAIL PROTECTED],.Internet writes: >I like this. >I have a small activity kit in a metal box that I can offer up for >trade to >the first caller who can answer: >what bird is the state bird of missouri? Is it the Bluebird??? Owen

Re: [Fwd: FLUXLIST: Time pieces ...]

2000-07-03 Thread Owen Smith
[EMAIL PROTECTED],.Internet writes: >If any of you are interested in doing this, July 10-31, every >day, one item, event, thought, over and over, every day, record >the change or nonchange. I have a friend who will put them >online as a time project. He is a doctor. Every day, mind you, >takes

FLUXLIST: Telephone Event for Mary

2000-06-29 Thread Owen Smith
Telephone Event for Mary - live with a teenager

Re: FLUXLIST: Re: Conner Quote

2000-06-29 Thread Owen Smith
[EMAIL PROTECTED],.Internet writes: >when given a television >turn it on its side >? When I visited Wolf Vostel in his Berlin apartment (in the mid 80s) he had about 20 tvs stacked against a wall, some on their sides, some up side down, and some right side up and each was tuned to a different

FLUXLIST: Phone Call Performances, Dung Beetles and the rest

2000-06-27 Thread Owen Smith
The specifics aside, not to say that these concerns are not important, but another point has been missed and that is that the phone is an interesting medium for performances and interactive works. There was a show a few years ago in which anyone could call in and leave a message and then the visit

Re: FLUXLIST: Re: trial [freedom from transgression]

2000-06-27 Thread Owen Smith
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: >If manditory transgression is written into the job description of a >particular group of individuals (artists), and if this is depended upon >by another group(s) of people (art enthusiasts) for amusement and/ or >reassurance, then how can those who wish to be 'truly' tra

Re: FLUXLIST: hmmmm,

2000-06-26 Thread Owen Smith
[EMAIL PROTECTED],.Internet writes: >Hi all, >Quite surprised at the sheer volume of posts this weekend! Just got back late last night from a weekend away from the computer (off on an island off the coast of Maine for a friends wedding) and now just finished reading them all - and will agree w

Re: FLUXLIST: Re: trial [freedom from transgression]

2000-06-26 Thread Owen Smith
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: >I believe that the real 'transgression' today is to be as ordinary and >maybe >even as mild-mannered as possible. ;-) Interesting point, George - this kind of transgression is part of Fluxus as well, particularly in the Fluxus events of the mid and late 70s - the very

Re: FLUXLIST: Trial by e-jury

2000-06-23 Thread Owen Smith
[EMAIL PROTECTED],.Internet writes: >Owen's idea of a trial is an interesting one. I've been thinking of it >since >yesterday. One initial problem I had in approaching the idea is that we >had >no-one to accuse. Carol is the victim, we have plenty of eye-witnesses >as >well as evidence to exhibit

Re: FLUXLIST: Mo***ento removed

2000-06-22 Thread Owen Smith
[EMAIL PROTECTED],.Internet writes: >From a personal point of view I get very tired of the general level of >abusiveness in online discussions on newsgroups and certain lists etc. >I no >longer take part in any discussion forum where this kind of thing >exists, >it's just unproductive and a waste

Re: FLUXLIST: Mo***ento removed

2000-06-22 Thread Owen Smith
[EMAIL PROTECTED],.Internet writes: >h >tricky >a trial in absentia? sure, why not - isn't this the best way? joking aside, he/she/it made use of the list for his/her/their own ends, so now let's reverse the process. . . . >and if Mr Tripleasterix discovers we are playing >fast and loose wi

Re: FLUXLIST: Mo***ento removed

2000-06-22 Thread Owen Smith
[EMAIL PROTECTED],.Internet writes: >If this person was a genuine fluxlist member, however objectionable, >then >there would be a case to be made for him staying. >However, I believe he simply strayed onto the wrong List. >Sol was simply doing him a favour by redirecting his >creativity elsewhere

FLUXLIST: go forth - into the divide

2000-06-09 Thread Owen Smith
For anyone interested in making some digital art - http://www.altarts.org/imagesite/pixelpage/intry.html Feedback is always appreciated. . . . . . Owen

Re: FLUXLIST: Fluxus ideas (call for Owen Smith)

2000-06-05 Thread Owen Smith
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: >Sol wrote >>Fluxus I'm no art historian and really don't have the necessary >qualities >to >>write this kind of thing well, since we have experts like Owen on this >list >>I hope we can utilise their talents :-) >okay >your definition looks good to me, Sol, >but if Ow

Re: FLUXLIST: 6 things about Fluxlist

2000-06-02 Thread Owen Smith
[EMAIL PROTECTED],.Internet writes: >Well "the arts of the new mentality" is just a euphemism for the >intermedia >approach I think that Sol is correct that it does relate to Dick's ideas about Intermedia, but it is also more than this - I think that it is more closely related to the mindset tha

FLUXLIST: recent projects

2000-06-02 Thread Owen Smith
Allen's posting of his online documentation got me thinking that I should share will all the fluxlisters the online documentation of a project that I did last year (and have spent a good deal of time creating the documentation for this year) titled proof of existence. you can find it at: http://w

Re: FLUXLIST: fluxus research or fluxus parody?

2000-06-02 Thread Owen Smith
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: >http://www.fluxus.org/FluxusMidwest/Research/fluxlist.html Allen - great project and great concept very well done! I particularly like the sealed box for sale on ebay as an extension of the performance. I also have a question (to you and any and all other fluxlisters

Re: FLUXLIST: Unikats in the digital world

2000-05-30 Thread Owen Smith
[EMAIL PROTECTED],.Internet writes: > one question or observation: what makes a digital artwork >unique ? . . . . . .potentially nothing at all, and that why it is for me a medium appropriate for Fluxist explorations. Owen

Re: FLUXLIST: Photos from Daniel Spoerri opening

2000-05-26 Thread Owen Smith
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: >The gentleman in the fifth photo that's known as "X" >(between Arias-Misson and Spoerri) looks a lot like Richard >Kostelanetz. Could it be him? Yes it is indeed Richard, but the question is who is Y?? Owen

Re: FLUXLIST: Fluxus History (Gutai Group)

2000-05-19 Thread Owen Smith
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: >Can you recommend any references on Hi Red Center and Gutai. I know >there's >an old issue of Lightworks on Gutai which I have wanted to get for a >while >but I've never seen any substantial material on Hi Red Center. Am I >looking >in the wrong placesany help grate

FLUXLIST: fluxlist box online

2000-05-13 Thread Owen Smith
Thanks to Allen for providing server space the Fluxlist box catalog is now on line so you can all feel free to check out who contributed what and those who were not involved can see a bit of what was done. The catalog is at: http://www.fluxus.org/FLUXLIST/box1/fbindexm.html Enjoy! Owen btw -

Re: FLUXLIST: Fluxlist Box

2000-05-11 Thread Owen Smith
[EMAIL PROTECTED],.Internet writes: >Well, I think Owen was planning to catalogue the items in the box for a >CD >catalogue of the box contents so if he's already photographed all the >objects etc. this could be put on the web. Owen? To Sol and all others - the catalog is all done, at least in a

Re: FLUXLIST: Fluxus Sound Files

2000-05-08 Thread Owen Smith
[EMAIL PROTECTED],.Internet writes: >Hello, I'm still trying to dig up info on Thomas Schmit. Found a >reference >that there were 200 Sanitas, published in German. Drat. Josh and others who are interested- I happen to have the catalog (tomas schmit, published by the Kolnischer kunstverein in 1978

Re: FLUXLIST: The New French Fluxus -- It isn't Ben Vautier, Jean Dupuy, or

2000-05-04 Thread Owen Smith
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: >I agree with Ken about avoiding the courts for the reasons given but >this is still an important >net issue especially because our own Allen Bukoff has fluxus.org . >I think the net art community will be interested in this. >cheers, Sol. So maybe we can take this o

Re: FLUXLIST: the box set

2000-05-02 Thread Owen Smith
[EMAIL PROTECTED],.Internet writes: >Hi all, >Well, I haven't received a box here yet in England so I'd recommend >that we in >Europe just be patient with the postal service. In my experience it is >very >hard to predict how long post will take to arrive from the USA. >in anticipation >chee

FLUXLIST: Hiding Event for Fluxlist

2000-04-18 Thread Owen Smith
Lurk (for years on the Fluxlist)

Re: FLUXLIST: holga camera

2000-04-17 Thread Owen Smith
[EMAIL PROTECTED],.Internet writes: >I'm >also pining for a description of the "box" you folks received >from Owen, if the contents allow description. >Best, PK Patricia and others, I hope to have a version of the catalog of the works included in the box up on line soon so all can see. Owen

FLUXLIST: mailing address

2000-04-07 Thread Owen Smith
Ann Klefstad - Are you out there??- I tried to send this to you directly but it was bounced back - I know that you are in Duluth, MN but I do not see to have a street address to which to send your copy of the Fluxlist box - can you send me one? Thanks, Owen

Re: FLUXLIST: useless art

2000-04-07 Thread Owen Smith
[EMAIL PROTECTED],.Internet writes: >Hi >I just got a copy of Postface/Jefferson's Birthday for $40US on >Bibliofind. >Owen, I'm very interested in getting a copy of your essay 'Fluxus, >Experimentalism and the End of Language' in the book Experimental, >Visual, >Concrete. Have any clues how I cou

FLUXLIST: Fluxlist Flux Box

2000-04-07 Thread Owen Smith
For all you long suffering Fluxbox participants - the boxes will be mailed out the beginning of next week!! If the CD (which is what has been holding up the whole process for the last two months) is not done, it will be sent along later rather than my continuing to hold up the whole process -

Re: FLUXLIST: useless art

2000-04-07 Thread Owen Smith
[EMAIL PROTECTED],.Internet writes: >Josh, I can recommand you Jefferson's Birthday/Postface, one of Dick >Higgins >best's book, but slightly too expensive (I've never seen it under 200$!) Ah, what we have come to - not to rub it in but I picked up two copies of this book for 5 dollars each (alt

Re: FLUXLIST: Higgins on Intermedia

2000-03-16 Thread Owen Smith
[EMAIL PROTECTED],.Internet writes: >Higgins on Intermedia >Dick Higgins's Intermedia essay was reprinted twice, first in >foew&ombwhnw, >second in A Dialectic of Centuries. >Higgins, Dick. 1969. foew&ombwhnw. New York: Something Else Press, pp. >11-29. >Higgins, Dick. 1978. A Dialectic of Cent

Re: FLUXLIST: passion for fashion

2000-02-28 Thread Owen Smith
[EMAIL PROTECTED],.Internet writes: >I was thinking maybe you guys could buzz around some ideas for me to get >my gears going. Anything goes. >I'llbe displaying them by wearing them with my friends although my prof >keeps insisting on somesort of gallery thing. Well I'll focus but >galleries...

Re: FLUXLIST: group.....art?

2000-02-28 Thread Owen Smith
[EMAIL PROTECTED],.Internet writes: >Whoever wishes to participate would create an art stamp - be it >photography, graphics, whatever, and can email it to me in the >form of a .jpg image insert, in a smallish size at 100 >resolution. Doesn't have to be the size of a stamp - I can take >care of r

Re: FLUXLIST: joe jones

2000-02-28 Thread Owen Smith
[EMAIL PROTECTED],.Internet writes: >hello, >any information is helpful, but primarily a discography of his released >music >(lps, cassettes, cds). if possible i would like information on the >label to >inquire on attainability of these recordings. also, names of articles >or >books that provid

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