Re: FLUXLIST: Genoa Fluxus CATALOG

2002-06-12 Thread Owen Smith
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Owen, do you own a copy of this book ? It says it's got some Yoko Ono content. Can you please describe ? Richard - unfortunately I do not own a copy (yet) but I have looked a it and read some of the essays - unfortunately I do not remember the specific Ono related

Re: FLUXLIST: interviews with Knowles

2002-06-06 Thread Owen Smith
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Besides Fluxus: a Conceptual Country and M/E/A/N/I/N/G, where may I find interviews with Alison Knowles? Josh - there is a nice interview/discussion between Hannah and Alison in the recent Genoa Fluxus catalog.

Re: RE: FLUXLIST: Spoons

2002-03-28 Thread Owen Smith
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=852808885 item=852808885 Did you see who the high bidder is. . . .? milan.knizak I wonder if that is the Milan. . . . . Owen

Re: FLUXLIST: The real old thing

2002-02-27 Thread Owen Smith
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Somebody please be kind enough to tell me what Fluxus really is. Clearly, I must've been mistaken, as there is plenty of hostility and negativity concerning false Fluxus and who is more Fluxus than someone else. Mr. Andersen, I acknowledge your history with

Re: FLUXLIST: Fwd: I need informations

2002-02-25 Thread Owen Smith
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: i had the great fortune (and fun) to perform , at the grand opening and on the 2 performance days, as well as go on the Fluxus Tour. I joined in with octet for winds, Four directional songs of doubt and did Tomas Schmit's Zyklus Sounds great Alan - out of curiosity how

Re: FLUXLIST: does fluxus exist? a simplistic approach...

2001-11-30 Thread Owen Smith
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I seem to remember that Barbara Moore reissued a bunch of fluxboxes under that imprint. It was reflux (not refluxus). i think that you still might be able to get some of them from Barbara or from some of the places that carried the like Printed Matter or Art

Re: FLUXLIST: Re: a simplistic appraoch...., 2

2001-11-29 Thread Owen Smith
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Some contemporary Fluxus workers (e.g. Joe DeMarco) are using the term avant-Flux...I think this is fairly appropriate. cheers, Sol. If Fluxus was the rear-garde (as maciunas sometimes described it) then maybe what is being discussed here is

FLUXLIST: Ken Friedman work

2001-11-29 Thread Owen Smith
To any and all interested parties Ken Friedman just send me a copy of a new work of his called 52 events. It is a calendar for the year 2002 with an even score for each week. It is being published by Show and Tell Editions (information follows if you want to but a printed one) but Ken also sent

Re: FLUXLIST:Who wants one of these?

2001-11-25 Thread Owen Smith
- Yes indeed I would like to receive one and I will send something (else) in return. Owen Send it to (please): Owen Smith Department of Art 5712 Carnegie Hall University of Maine Orono ME 04469 Thanks in advance. . . . .

Re: FLUXLIST: LaurieAnderson?

2001-10-31 Thread Owen Smith
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Laurie Anderson on David Letterman tonight? How very fluxus of him. Hopefully I will stay awake. PK So is this a trick or a treat? Owen

Re: FLUXLIST: talking about a waste of money event

2001-10-29 Thread Owen Smith
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: i intend to produce an edition of 5 photocopied booklets i will sell them for photocopies of money, any currency make me an offer. a - . . . . how about a copy of an ileagally scanned (i.e. counterfit) 50.00 USD bill that I recieved from another artist in

Re: FLUXLIST: Newton and Leibnitz

2001-09-05 Thread Owen Smith
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Whatever happened to? Heck, he's probably head of some Arts Program someplace! UCLA (or was up to a few years ago)

Re: FLUXLIST: the robbery

2001-08-03 Thread Owen Smith
[EMAIL PROTECTED],InetGW2 writes: Dear all, yesterday a guy broke into my house, thankfuly I was arriving at the moment he ran out. He took things that he could sell easily, and a lot of little rings, necklaces and bracelets that didn't have any commercial value, only sentimental (for me).

Re: FLUXLIST: West Coast Query

2001-07-18 Thread Owen Smith
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm leaving (on a jet plane) for the West Coast in half an hour. Will be staying in Oakland and Santa Cruz areas until Wednesday next. Anybody out there? Any chance of a meeting? I *hope* to be able to check my e-mail *and* to have some free time Melissa

Re: FLUXLIST: tests

2001-07-05 Thread Owen Smith
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Dear Tamas, Great tests and proposal for maillist. Finally some spirit on the list. It is interesting to see how silent everybody becomes, when your voice is heard. You seem to scare the mice. All the bests, Eric Eric and/or Tamas - Somehow I seemed to have missed

FLUXLIST: call for papers on Fluxus

2001-06-26 Thread Owen Smith
issue. Guest editors Ken Friedman and Owen Smith will coordinate this issue. The editors will welcome proposals and complete papers on any topic or theme relevant to Fluxus, the Fluxus artists and composers, or their work. Themes Fluxus is what Fluxus does -- but no one knows whodunit. Emmett

Re: FLUXLIST: Re: brads pics

2001-06-18 Thread Owen Smith
[EMAIL PROTECTED],InetGW2 writes: what counts most is taste. Whose taste - yours, mine, or Greenberg's?? And as far as the Brad stuff goes, we are all appropriating in one way or another aren't we? It is the presentation that is more significant than the origination or creation, or at least

Re: FLUXLIST: magic-bean performance

2001-06-18 Thread Owen Smith
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In actual practice, however, distinctions between the two interpretations amount to precious little. A state of affairs (as with most face-offs between interpretations) not unlike calling the same food by two different names. I would agree in general terms but reverse

Re: FLUXLIST: Re: FLUXLIST- Pariah tshirt

2001-06-14 Thread Owen Smith
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Would Team Pariah members mind paying @$10 or so US to cover costs of production? Then I can get them made--(actually, payable upon rec't of shirt is ok) Places, places-- AK Yes, that is fine with me - so will we have a logo or a mascot?? or for that matter even a

Re: FLUXLIST: who amungst you.......

2001-06-14 Thread Owen Smith
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: would like a sack of air? Sure - I already have some other works that are air based and what will you barter? - how about a bag of beans? - In honor of Alison they are very Fluxy beans (no pun intended). Owen

Re: FLUXLIST: Re: FLUXLIST- Pariah tshirt

2001-06-14 Thread Owen Smith
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Great Snoring This is a town in England? Wow, so how in the world this this come about?? I like this one - we could be the Great Snorting Pariahs!!! Owen

Re: FLUXLIST: Pariahs

2001-06-11 Thread Owen Smith
Ann - Count me in as well as a member of the Pariahs as well (and interested in a shirt as well). As to the place name if we are looking for a P I am partial to Pokatello. . . . Owen

Re: FLUXLIST: RE: anti-art

2001-06-08 Thread Owen Smith
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: As far as I know Manzoni did not sell these for very much, due to Manzoni's untimely early death the items fell prey to spectacular commodification by collectors. It was not them amount but the process of equivalency that was a key here the cans were sold based on their

FLUXLIST: Performance?

2001-05-29 Thread Owen Smith
This was sent to me this morning and I thought that it had Fluxus potential and that some of you on the list might want to participate. Owen Subject: summer solstice Celebrate the solstice in a meaningful way!! This could be fun! Regardless of your politics, please consider

Re: FLUXLIST: fluxlistbox

2001-05-13 Thread Owen Smith
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: hey. hey, hey it did arrived my flulistbox! i cant' belive thanks sol pez - After all this time Wow!!! That's great. . . . Owen

Re: FLUXLIST: e-mail my body (addresses)

2001-05-13 Thread Owen Smith
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ...pez osiris send the right addreess to my [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you still need my email it is [EMAIL PROTECTED] I am looking forward to seeing the project up on line. . . . Owen

Re: FLUXLIST: living in the ice age vol. 2

2001-03-28 Thread Owen Smith
[EMAIL PROTECTED],.Internet writes: some quotes from the liner notes of a recent cd that i picked up called, "living in the ice age vol.2 - stamps, headphone music lazy penpals: So where did you find this interesting sounding CD, is it available still?? Thanks for any info, Owen

FLUXLIST: for PK

2001-03-21 Thread Owen Smith
PK - I had tried to send you something off list but the message was bounced: (reason: 553 5.3.0 [EMAIL PROTECTED]... RELAY REJECT Mail blocked because of access spam from redshift.com RELAY) Is there another/ better email that I can send something to you using, or?? contact me back offlist

Re: FLUXLIST: fluxfun, or not. . .

2001-03-15 Thread Owen Smith
[EMAIL PROTECTED],.Internet writes: It's very charming, Owen! I will use it as a screensaver--can I?- Ann - sure feel free to use it however you want - also if anyone else wants to use the code to make their own animation just replace the image and ref in the code with you own and viola . . . .

Re: FLUXLIST: fluxfun, or not. . .

2001-03-15 Thread Owen Smith
[EMAIL PROTECTED],.Internet writes: Inspired by Owen's animation I give you a fetching bouncing maciunas head with multimedia enhancements, a ready screensaver (but for PC only, sorry Mac people). Runs on win 3.1,95,98 etc. Download it from http://www.artden.freeserve.co.uk/maciunas/ I wrote a

FLUXLIST: fluxfun, or not. . .

2001-03-14 Thread Owen Smith
I was bored today so I made a page to leave on your computer when you are not using it. . . . . . http://www.altarts.org/fluxfun/george.html

FLUXLIST: seed projects?

2001-03-07 Thread Owen Smith
For all those of you who are involved with the Fluxlist seed project or plants etc. check out this offering on ebay: http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=1413495487 Owen

Re: FLUXLIST: spots

2001-02-18 Thread Owen Smith
[EMAIL PROTECTED],.Internet writes: My tomatoes plants have light colored spots all over the leaves what could cause this and how do I fix them? Tomatoes with spots? I can't even think about growing tomatoes at this point - the current temp this morning is -35F degrees (with windchill) in the

Re: FLUXLIST: response to Bertrand

2000-12-11 Thread Owen Smith
[EMAIL PROTECTED],.Internet writes: What do you think of Postface/JB as a history of Fluxus? This is one of the key historical first hand descriptions of the early Fluxus performance festivals in Europe. The descriptions are directly based on a 14 page letter that Dick sent to the US while he

Re: FLUXLIST: Mechanics of Viri on MS

2000-11-29 Thread Owen Smith
[EMAIL PROTECTED],.Internet writes: Again and again misleading nonsense flourish on the list. The term Fluxus was used in connection with performance the first time in Europe in 1962 and the first Fluxus publication, The Roll, was printed in Wiesbaden in 1963. Eric - you are right that these

Re: FLUXLIST: A._S.L.O.T.H.

2000-11-02 Thread Owen Smith
[EMAIL PROTECTED],.Internet writes: I probably shouldn't post the entire A._S.L.O.T.H. text. It's quite long, but I can send it directly to whoever is interested. (As a MS Word attachment preferably) Aaron - can you send me a copy of the entire doc at [EMAIL PROTECTED], thanks. . . . On the

FLUXLIST: anagrams forI love Fluxus

2000-10-11 Thread Owen Smith
FIVE LULU SOX FIVE SOUL LUX OLIVE FLU SUX OLIVE FLUX US LEVIS FUX LOU LEVI FOUL SUX LEVI FLU OX US LEVI OF LUX US LEVI FUX SOUL LIVE FOUL SUX LIVE FLU OX US LIVE OF LUX US LIVE FUX SOUL VEIL FOUL SUX VEIL FLU OX US VEIL OF LUX US VEIL FUX SOUL EVIL FOUL SUX EVIL FLU OX US EVIL OF LUX US EVIL FUX

Re: FLUXLIST: unholy marriage/Fluxus old boys

2000-10-10 Thread Owen Smith
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Well, I read this but I have to say that most of it seems to miss the point of Fluxus (or at least as I understand it) that works are to be simple yet thought provoking. Interestingly enough this was one of the major complaints about the paper when it was first given

Re: FLUXLIST: addendum

2000-10-09 Thread Owen Smith
[EMAIL PROTECTED],.Internet writes: there are only one or two images that i'm aware of - of the couple changing into each others wedding outfits. There are actually a whole series (10 or 12) of this exchange which were published in one of the last issues of ccVTRE- in fact Peter Moore took

Re: FLUXLIST: thoughts on fluxus part 2

2000-09-21 Thread Owen Smith
[EMAIL PROTECTED],.Internet writes: Personally, you'd have to convince me, Owen, that the notions of intermedia and Derrida's difference are fruitfully related. George - you raise a good point here (also that Dick was at the very least suspicious of Derrida) and I am not sure that I can

Re: FLUXLIST: thoughts on fluxus part 2

2000-09-21 Thread Owen Smith
[EMAIL PROTECTED],.Internet writes: Aren't all art works materially intermedial? Even paint has to go onto a surface and that surface isn't paint but another medium. Sol - Not really - your example uses two materials but both are within the same medium, so it is still a traditional single

FLUXLIST: thoughts on Fluxus part 3

2000-09-21 Thread Owen Smith
I would like to conclude my thoughts on Fluxus by returning to the idea that I mentioned earlier, (and one that both Sol and George brought up in their responses) that of cognitive intermedia. The general focus of many Fluxus type works is on the process of meaning-making which highlights the

FLUXLIST: thoughts on fluxus part 2

2000-09-15 Thread Owen Smith
Thoughts on Fluxus part 2 (of 3) In a general sense all Fluxus activities seek to question meaning and significance as fixed, pre-determined, or even determinable through the functioning of what has been described as "higher social contracts," that is social situations as a manifestation of

Re: FLUXLIST: response Sol

2000-09-14 Thread Owen Smith
Sol, Patricia, Disco and any and all other Fluxlister - Over the last few years as I have explored Fluxus I have become increasingly dissatisfied with traditional scholarly or historical approaches to the subject of Fluxus (mine included). I have to say that one of the things that bothers me

FLUXLIST: thoughts on Fluxus part 1

2000-09-14 Thread Owen Smith
Hearing no cries to the contrary, here we go "thoughts on Fluxus Part 1" At the end of his 1953 "Manifesto for Concrete Poetry" Ovid Fahlstrom wrote: ". . . what I have called concrete literature is not a style, any more than concrete music or non-figurative art is. It is partly a way for the

Re: FLUXLIST: another trade

2000-07-17 Thread Owen Smith
[EMAIL PROTECTED],.Internet writes: I like this. I have a small activity kit in a metal box that I can offer up for trade to the first caller who can answer: what bird is the state bird of missouri? Is it the Bluebird??? Owen

Re: [Fwd: FLUXLIST: Time pieces ...]

2000-07-03 Thread Owen Smith
[EMAIL PROTECTED],.Internet writes: If any of you are interested in doing this, July 10-31, every day, one item, event, thought, over and over, every day, record the change or nonchange. I have a friend who will put them online as a time project. He is a doctor. Every day, mind you, takes

Re: FLUXLIST: Re: Conner Quote

2000-06-29 Thread Owen Smith
[EMAIL PROTECTED],.Internet writes: when given a television turn it on its side ? When I visited Wolf Vostel in his Berlin apartment (in the mid 80s) he had about 20 tvs stacked against a wall, some on their sides, some up side down, and some right side up and each was tuned to a different

Re: FLUXLIST: Re: trial [freedom from transgression]

2000-06-27 Thread Owen Smith
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If manditory transgression is written into the job description of a particular group of individuals (artists), and if this is depended upon by another group(s) of people (art enthusiasts) for amusement and/ or reassurance, then how can those who wish to be 'truly'

FLUXLIST: Phone Call Performances, Dung Beetles and the rest

2000-06-27 Thread Owen Smith
The specifics aside, not to say that these concerns are not important, but another point has been missed and that is that the phone is an interesting medium for performances and interactive works. There was a show a few years ago in which anyone could call in and leave a message and then the

Re: FLUXLIST: Mo***ento removed

2000-06-22 Thread Owen Smith
[EMAIL PROTECTED],.Internet writes: If this person was a genuine fluxlist member, however objectionable, then there would be a case to be made for him staying. However, I believe he simply strayed onto the wrong List. Sol was simply doing him a favour by redirecting his creativity elsewhere.

Re: FLUXLIST: Mo***ento removed

2000-06-22 Thread Owen Smith
[EMAIL PROTECTED],.Internet writes: h tricky a trial in absentia? sure, why not - isn't this the best way? joking aside, he/she/it made use of the list for his/her/their own ends, so now let's reverse the process. . . . and if Mr Tripleasterix discovers we are playing fast and loose with

Re: FLUXLIST: Mo***ento removed

2000-06-22 Thread Owen Smith
[EMAIL PROTECTED],.Internet writes: From a personal point of view I get very tired of the general level of abusiveness in online discussions on newsgroups and certain lists etc. I no longer take part in any discussion forum where this kind of thing exists, it's just unproductive and a waste of

Re: FLUXLIST: fluxus research or fluxus parody?

2000-06-02 Thread Owen Smith
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: http://www.fluxus.org/FluxusMidwest/Research/fluxlist.html Allen - great project and great concept very well done! I particularly like the sealed box for sale on ebay as an extension of the performance. I also have a question (to you and any and all other

FLUXLIST: recent projects

2000-06-02 Thread Owen Smith
Allen's posting of his online documentation got me thinking that I should share will all the fluxlisters the online documentation of a project that I did last year (and have spent a good deal of time creating the documentation for this year) titled proof of existence. you can find it at:

Re: FLUXLIST: 6 things about Fluxlist

2000-06-02 Thread Owen Smith
[EMAIL PROTECTED],.Internet writes: Well "the arts of the new mentality" is just a euphemism for the intermedia approach I think that Sol is correct that it does relate to Dick's ideas about Intermedia, but it is also more than this - I think that it is more closely related to the mindset that

Re: FLUXLIST: Unikats in the digital world

2000-05-30 Thread Owen Smith
[EMAIL PROTECTED],.Internet writes: one question or observation: what makes a digital artwork unique ? . . . . . .potentially nothing at all, and that why it is for me a medium appropriate for Fluxist explorations. Owen

Re: FLUXLIST: Photos from Daniel Spoerri opening

2000-05-26 Thread Owen Smith
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The gentleman in the fifth photo that's known as "X" (between Arias-Misson and Spoerri) looks a lot like Richard Kostelanetz. Could it be him? Yes it is indeed Richard, but the question is who is Y?? Owen

Re: FLUXLIST: Fluxus History (Gutai Group)

2000-05-19 Thread Owen Smith
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Can you recommend any references on Hi Red Center and Gutai. I know there's an old issue of Lightworks on Gutai which I have wanted to get for a while but I've never seen any substantial material on Hi Red Center. Am I looking in the wrong placesany help gratefully

Re: FLUXLIST: Fluxus Sound Files

2000-05-08 Thread Owen Smith
[EMAIL PROTECTED],.Internet writes: Hello, I'm still trying to dig up info on Thomas Schmit. Found a reference that there were 200 Sanitas, published in German. Drat. Josh and others who are interested- I happen to have the catalog (tomas schmit, published by the Kolnischer kunstverein in 1978

Re: FLUXLIST: the box set

2000-05-02 Thread Owen Smith
[EMAIL PROTECTED],.Internet writes: Hi all, Well, I haven't received a box here yet in England so I'd recommend that we in Europe just be patient with the postal service. In my experience it is very hard to predict how long post will take to arrive from the USA. in anticipation cheers,

FLUXLIST: Hiding Event for Fluxlist

2000-04-18 Thread Owen Smith
Lurk (for years on the Fluxlist)

Re: FLUXLIST: holga camera

2000-04-17 Thread Owen Smith
[EMAIL PROTECTED],.Internet writes: I'm also pining for a description of the "box" you folks received from Owen, if the contents allow description. Best, PK Patricia and others, I hope to have a version of the catalog of the works included in the box up on line soon so all can see. Owen

FLUXLIST: Fluxlist Flux Box

2000-04-07 Thread Owen Smith
For all you long suffering Fluxbox participants - the boxes will be mailed out the beginning of next week!! If the CD (which is what has been holding up the whole process for the last two months) is not done, it will be sent along later rather than my continuing to hold up the whole process

Re: FLUXLIST: useless art

2000-04-07 Thread Owen Smith
[EMAIL PROTECTED],.Internet writes: Hi I just got a copy of Postface/Jefferson's Birthday for $40US on Bibliofind. Owen, I'm very interested in getting a copy of your essay 'Fluxus, Experimentalism and the End of Language' in the book Experimental, Visual, Concrete. Have any clues how I could get

Re: FLUXLIST: Higgins on Intermedia

2000-03-16 Thread Owen Smith
[EMAIL PROTECTED],.Internet writes: Higgins on Intermedia Dick Higgins's Intermedia essay was reprinted twice, first in foewombwhnw, second in A Dialectic of Centuries. Higgins, Dick. 1969. foewombwhnw. New York: Something Else Press, pp. 11-29. Higgins, Dick. 1978. A Dialectic of Centuries.

Re: FLUXLIST: originale

2000-02-28 Thread Owen Smith
Just back for New York and trying to catch up on email - There were several performances of this work, but I am sure that you are thinking of the 1964 performance in New York which was picketed by several people associated with Fluxus Flynt, Maciunas, Vautier (and performed by several others

Re: FLUXLIST: joe jones

2000-02-28 Thread Owen Smith
[EMAIL PROTECTED],.Internet writes: hello, any information is helpful, but primarily a discography of his released music (lps, cassettes, cds). if possible i would like information on the label to inquire on attainability of these recordings. also, names of articles or books that provide

Re: FLUXLIST: Fluxlist Box

2000-02-11 Thread Owen Smith
[EMAIL PROTECTED],.Internet writes: Well, I heard from Owen and he said that he had had a family emergency which meant that he was away for a while and would be contacting the list about the box when he had a chance. Obviously he has not yet had a chance to do that. Hopefully Owen will be able

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