Ren: See, now if this user had only *read the PowerPoint manual*, he'd
know about this and...
Stimpy: But Ren, Powerpoint doesn't *have* a manual!
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, unofficial stuff floats around all the time.
Most companies don't care; any publicity is good!
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* bookmarks? I'd
like to drop a bookmark in one doc, go someplace else, and then come
back to that bookmark. It's OK if it stays in the doc, as long as it
doesn't affect PDF or XML (HTML) output.
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, too.
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ink-wrapped products, unofficial stuff floats around all the time.
Most companies don't care; any publicity is good!
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g *editing* bookmarks? I'd
like to drop a bookmark in one doc, go someplace else, and then come
back to that bookmark. It's OK if it stays in the doc, as long as it
doesn't affect PDF or XML (HTML) output.
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, too.
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. Grammar and rhetoric skills don't do much if you can't put the
information in a place where the reader can find it, and produce an
overall group of topics that make the product clear.
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. Grammar and rhetoric skills don't do much if you can't put the
information in a place where the reader can find it, and produce an
overall group of topics that make the product clear.
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I am very happy with BookVars. When I go to create a new folder for a
book/part of a book, the first thing I do is create the book file. The
*second* thing I do is create the BookVars file.
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to Barbara Ash for teaching me this.
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Okay, this brings up a point that has
This *has* to be expensive, based on the fact that the price isn't
listed on the website! :)
My observation stands: free takes work, no work takes money. Alas, the
money solution may *still* take work.
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FM has two ways of numbering.
The first is letter:
The second is <><><>, etc.
==
In the first, the letter identifies a sequence. All the autonumbering
formats with the same sequence relate to each other. So, if you do
This *has* to be expensive, based on the fact that the price isn't
listed on the website! :)
My observation stands: free takes work, no work takes money. Alas, the
money solution may *still* take work.
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applications. They haven't changed
since the big Kahuna first installed Universe 1.0.
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f software applications. They haven't changed
since the big Kahuna first installed Universe 1.0.
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pretty well, and I could provide
some value to FM 7.x users.
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now Python pretty well, and I could provide
some value to FM 7.x users.
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Well heck, I hope *so*. Bill Gates is no dummy, and neither is MS.
Question is, what secret stuff do MS tech writers use in Frame that only
*they* have!
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* is that a modern CS student gets to have an
ultra-powerful computer *plus* the Internet, and do so many *fun
things*!!! :( Boo-hoo. I wanna be a student again! Boy, if Doom 2 had
been around when I was a college student, I'd still be in school.
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trates *me* is that a modern CS student gets to have an
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ith future books you write. Best of all, if you
already have FM and a way to generate PDF, the solution is *free*.
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interface was set up
to show one window at a time! I use multiple windows. Yikes! :^O.
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I agree that two monitors is very useful for structured FM.
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it to transfer files. Even CDs
are obsolete with flash drives, and of course floppy drives are way
passe.
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GB USB flash
drive, which are now less than $100. Use it to transfer files. Even CDs
are obsolete with flash drives, and of course floppy drives are way
passe.
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set, ensure that Format > Document > Numbering
Paragraph tab is set to restart paragraph numbering with each chapter.
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the
standard has no useful purpose.
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that FM
ought to provide the ability to separate page sequences from page
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relies on more hours
from each employee than on any productivity enhancement that is an
expense.
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. The reader uses the command to go to page 58, but the
software is not aware that the first 10 pages of the file are numbered
i-x. The jump to page 58 actually yields page 48!
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perfect!
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n, I think the
standard has no useful purpose.
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that FM
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ll startup relies on more hours
from each employee than on any productivity enhancement that is "an
expense."
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. The reader uses the command to go to page 58, but the
software is not aware that the first 10 pages of the file are numbered
i-x. The jump to page 58 actually yields page 48!
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e operative word here, I ain't perfect!
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at Oracle. Not that I'm saying Karen (or anyone else)
should have known; my guess is that Oracle found out the hard way!
I don't know a way to find the duplicate ids offhand. sorry!
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such an idea in a small company that
wants to save money anywhere it can.
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Excellent points, Katie. Translation into other languages is not yet an
issue for us, but I am aware that it's one of XML documentation's big
selling points. Thanks for your advice!
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at Oracle. Not that I'm saying Karen (or anyone else)
should have known; my guess is that Oracle found out the hard way!
I don't know a way to find the duplicate ids offhand. sorry!
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Hi!
I am looking for experiences and advice about using DITA from tech
writers who are familiar with real success stories.
I'm the only tech writer here at TuVox, a 70-person startup. I am
seriously considering using DITA as the basis of a single-source
structured documentation environment. The
.
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Excellent points, Katie. Translation into other languages is not yet an
issue for us, but I am aware that it's one of XML documentation's big
selling points. Thanks for your advice!
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is ALT+S+V+letters+ENTER where letters are
the first few letters of a variable name. I use that one constantly!
I hope to write some sort of FDK thingie to handle this and others;
first I have to find time to go to the bathroom...
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her good key sequence is ALT+S+V+letters+ENTER where "letters" are
the first few letters of a variable name. I use that one constantly!
I hope to write some sort of FDK thingie to handle this and others;
first I have to find time to go to the bathroom...
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, or am I doing something wrong?
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worry.
Someone needs to teach the moderator the basics of e-mail, IMHO.
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worry.
Someone needs to teach the moderator the basics of e-mail, IMHO.
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, and decent
way to share information online.
I hope that you will consider it in this light and do the right thing.
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, and decent
way to share information online.
I hope that you will consider it in this light and do the right thing.
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I'm not sure if *this* was the suggestion that started things working,
but now they work. Thanks to everyone who replied! As a lone writer, I
absolutely depend on you for help, and you always come through...
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Yes, I've tried that. It works, but the next time I generate files, the setting
goes back.
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Uh, no, I'm not saving them. Didn't think of it. The list file is set to
double-sided in the Pagination dialog.
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I'm not sure if *this* was the suggestion that started things working,
but now they work. Thanks to everyone who replied! As a lone writer, I
absolutely depend on you for help, and you always come through...
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Oh yeah I save them. In fact, when I'm initially creating a generated
file, I do the trick of generating, saving, overwriting the file with my
own template file, and then regenerating.
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wonder if FM is simply not smart
enough to generate an extra page when it regenerates the list of tables.
Anyone know?
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t; file. I wonder if FM is simply not smart
enough to generate an extra page when it regenerates the list of tables.
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n
*introduction
*part (ie Part I)
*chapter
*appendix
*glossary
*index
When I'm doing this, I start out by defining formats in the title
template, and then use File > Import > Formats to copy to other
templates.
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of a character or paragraph
format. Alas, I'm starting a department from scratch, so I have to
design as I go. As much as I can, I change the template as soon as I'm
sure my override is what I want. Quality also involves feedback.
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someone else be upset?
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of a character or paragraph
format. Alas, I'm starting a department from scratch, so I have to
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sure my override is what I want. Quality also involves feedback.
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are? Would someone else be upset?
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Note that using roman numerals does not preclude consecutive numbering.
The only change is that the text part of the book no longer starts on
page 1.
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matter
in a book. The document page number appears in the page display at the
bottom, followed by the PDF number in parentheses.
Does anyone know if I can set this automatically from FrameMaker? I'm
using FM 7.1, unstructured, to print .PS files which I then pass through
Distiller.
Joe
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Everyone pointed me to Rick Quatro. Thanks!
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es us re-examine our typographical
conventions.
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From: framers-
I don't particularly care one way or another. I see that it's not a bug
by Adobe's definition, and I can live with that.
Joe
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ot the *page* number.
This also happens if I surround <$pagenum> with a tag, for
example
<$paranum><$paratext><$pagenum>
This also happens in index entries.
Anyone seen this before?
Joe
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* size it to the document, *then* convert it
to graphics.
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* size it to the document, *then* convert it
to graphics.
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From
paragraph to be 1 for *each* file
in the book, I'd use P:n+ but set Document Numbering... so that
paragraph numbers restart at 1 for each file.
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I'm confused.
You want one autonumber format to control stuff that flows through an
entire book. You want paragraph numbers not reset between chapters. If
so, then you *don't* want
AM
To: Joe Malin
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Subject: Re: FM bloat (NO PDF)
On 5 Dec 2005, at 19:03, Joe Malin wrote:
They would be bigger than JPG.
Are you suggesting that GIF or JPG are *not* used by publishing
professionals?
No, I'm just saying that pro print
3:54 AM
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Subject: Re: FM bloat (NO PDF)
On 5 Dec 2005, at 19:03, Joe Malin wrote:
> They would be bigger than JPG.
>
> Are you suggesting that GIF or JPG are *not* used by publishing
> professionals?
No, I'm
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They would be bigger than JPG.
Are you suggesting that GIF or JPG are *not* used by publishing
professionals?
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y head :-\
Rene
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Subject: RE: FM > PDF bloat
Could it be that both of the
Could it be that both of the problems are due to multiple
facets? You may have your FM set to create FrameImage facets whenever you copy
in a graphic. That may generate two copies of the
graphic.
Joe
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Joe
Could it be that both of the problems are due to multiple facets? You
may have your FM set to create FrameImage facets whenever you copy in a
graphic. That may generate two copies of the graphic.
Joe
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books for Oracle Corp., and that
was their standard operating procedure.
I figure that ifOracle's entire cadre of
FMdocumentation production specialists can't come up with a solution,
there isn't one.
Joe
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Inc.
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Joe
for Oracle
Corp., and that was their standard operating procedure.
I figure that if Oracle's entire cadre of FM documentation production
specialists can't come up with a solution, there isn't one.
Joe
TuVox, Inc.
19050 Pruneridge Avenue Suite 150, Cupertino, CA 95014-0715
Joe Malin
I have just used SM as a superscript. I have never seen a single glyph
for it in any character set.
Joe
TuVox, Inc.
19050 Pruneridge Avenue Suite 150, Cupertino, CA 95014-0715
Joe Malin
Technical Writer
(408)625.1623
jmalin at tuvox.com
www.tuvox.com <h
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