ys been
a far more rare happening than changing kernel to depend on new
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> [...]
> ad0: ATA-3 disk at ata0 as master
> ad0: 2014MB (4124736 sectors), 4092 cyls, 16 heads, 63 S/T, 512 B/S
^^
Is this the correct size of your hard disk?
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dn't have ddb in previous kernel)
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> I've also observed this problem and it is interesting that my HDD is Quantum FB ST
>2.1 too.
Does it report the correct size, btw? If not, does it report 4092
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Julian Elischer wrote:
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> please do not remove it..
> just make it non-default.
Retire it to LINT if you must, but I'd also like to see it around
until the last release on RELENG_3.
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tem supported by volunteer effort, we are interested in
driving the hardware to it's limits instead of being limited by the
ways we once did things.
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> go so far as to say that developing an X version would be wasting
> valuable developer resources (IMHO, of course).
X install => "user-friendly" install (perceived as) => more market share
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> should also stress that I have NEVER installed FreeBSD from CD :-)
Me neither, but CD is still the most popular installation media these
days, though we, Open Source OS, probably get more network installs than
CD installs.
no CUI-style
> dialog boxes or anything. Think about text-to-speach devices for
> the blind or serial consoles attached to really *dumb* terminals. :-)
Sounds like CLI. :-)
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>So is all of this (TCL, Qt, et. al.) going into the base
> system to facilitate this work?
NOT AGAIN! Please! In particular TCL.
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y limited set of tasks. When I worked with AIX, even though I was
very comfortable with SMIT, at any time when I wanted to do something
fast, it was CLI all the way.
Perhaps you mean "easy" instead of "quick"? Or maybe "quick" as in "flat
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neither of these tools precludes you from cli and file-editing, nor
would we have to.
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> Whatever [CG]UI you throw at the problem at hand: there is *NO* programmer-
> fixable way out from cluelessnes. What good would be a system that is
> a snap to install but once it is installed it says # to you?
It says /etc/motd to you, actually. :-)
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> In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Neal Westfall
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I need not hear a single more suggestion... brilliant! :-)
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> What's wrong with run with system V runlevels? Other than it's system V and
> everything AT^HUSL did is evil, of course.
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t; 5. Except for "/boot/defaults/loader.conf", are any of the installed
> scripts architecture-specific?
In theory, no. Support.4th code might need some changes to deal with
alignment correctly. I don't recall being particularly careful with
that, I'm afraid... That's
Sobral was working on integrating a new version of Ficl which is meant to
> be 64-bit clean.
It's supposed to be ready. Testmain runs. Debugging the loader to find
out why it doesn't has proven to be difficult...
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vinum the problem is way bigger.
IIRC, the build/installkernel targets were first steps in getting
modules and loader dependencies handled correctly.
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imeout finishes?
>
> Try putting just "set autoboot_delay=0" in /boot/loader.rc and see if
> that gives you a prompt.
Or just pressing space when the countdown message first appears...
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> Good idea, terrible name. Can't you guys some up with something better? :)
AFAIK, the idea is having the name keeping people away from that file.
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That's in loader.rc. The loader.conf equivalent is 'autoboot_delay="0"'.
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Ollivier Robert wrote:
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> According to Daniel C. Sobral:
> > Or just pressing space when the countdown message first appears...
>
> No time for that.
MM... the countdown message is 10 seconds long. It crashes before
going through the countdown???
Damn, I wish I could s
Ollivier Robert wrote:
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> .( Here ) cr
>
> Will try, hope I'll be able to see them :)
>
> Is there a way to do a "sleep 5" ?
5000 ms
Or, to wait for a keypress:
key
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> Is not sysinstall built and installed with a typical make
> buildworld/installworld?
No.
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> have the ability to use loader(8) fully (Alpha?).
All interaction with kernel is available on Alpha. It's only the
"advanced" scripting ability (Forth) that isn't.
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d system - "cp /boot/loader.old /boot/loader.good" ;-)
Ah, my most significant contribution to FreeBSD yet: generating a
loader.old! :-)
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r MFC right from the freebsd.org main page would have
> returned this information.
And me, all this time thinking it was Mitigate Freaking Cronies! ;-)
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GPL certainly doesn
in. On
the other hand, if we can't garantee third party vendors a stable ABI,
we won't get third party vendors.
Alas... Dillon, how much of SMP improvements will be getting back-ported
without further breaks in ABI, specially as BSDI code starts to trickle
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>
> Isn't this the "FreeBSD" project ?
There is no such thing as a "free beer".
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> the massive breakage this otherwise entails.
Last I knew, the only difference between "class" and "struct" was
whether the default was "public:" or "private:". Of course, C++ has
changed quite a bit since then, but...
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0x564d868 ( VMware magic ) = [if]
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.( Loading /boot/vmware.conf...) cr
s" /boot/vmware.conf" read-conf
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[then]
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f.
I try to keep it a secret. :-) While the exec="" stuff allows for
arbitrary code execution (as do _after, _before and _error), this sort
of thing is best avoided if possible on a configuration file. This
particular case, though, is precisely the kind of exception to the rule
I had
p() makes temp files in any directory including current one.
>
> Yes, but in practice it's not used that way since you can't write to most
> directories on the system except ~ and /tmp and relatives.
Tell that to vim. :-)
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enables similar problems to be solved without having
to change loader(8).
2) Add the VMware detecting to FICL, as originally suggested.
While I have reservations about the latter, I'm not objecting to it. If
you, Luoqi, prefer to go that way, go ahead.
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utility of it is _only_ passing it to the kernel
environment, as loader(8) without FICL can do very little based on the
content of an environment variable.
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ect" i386
and alpha. The code ought to do something similar to what the i386 and
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restore the original value afterwards.
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> sc0: on isa0
I was just wondering what happens if no device.hints exists. It seems it
isn't installed by installkernel target, and the above are all part of
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> - support S2, S3, S4 (hibernation) sleeping transition. S4 sleep
>require some hack in boot loader needs help.
I thought hibernation was entirely controlled by kernel? What do you
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> Mitsuru IWASAKI wrote:
> >
> > - support S2, S3, S4 (hibernation) sleeping transition. S4 sleep
> >require some hack in boot loader needs help.
>
> I thought hibernation was en
> /usr/bin/perl
> jkh@zippy-> /usr/bin/perl -v
>
> This is perl, version 5.005_03 built for i386-freebsd
Did you run this before or after stripping down the kernel of the "at
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ed as if nothing had happened, do you?
That's what hybernation does under Windows.
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simply incapable
for some reason, either always or at specific times, it should fail on
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And xyzzy will be read. Since device.hints is read right after
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Peter Jeremy wrote:
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> On Sun, Jun 11, 2000 at 02:41:12AM +1000, Daniel C. Sobral wrote:
> >Mind you, shells don't have problems with any character at all in a
> >filename if they are properly written, but if you are expecting the
> >filenames generated by mktemp()
tops to sleep and then
> wake them up again. Right now pccard insert/removal can be missed
> when you put a laptop to sleep...
BTW, have you decided between NetBSD and BSD/OS cardbus code yet?
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any probing starts...
If you do not want to use loader, then use the "hints" option in the
config file.
What is going to get deprecated, though, is being able to userconfig
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mmon/load_elf.c. In any case, you shouldn't
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"Jordan K. Hubbard" wrote:
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> Everyone talks about using bitkeeper but none of the people who
> recommend it have ever actually tried to use it for anything.
> Before such recommendations will bear weight, this needs to
> change. :)
OCVS? (Or was it OVCS? I can never
Cyrille Lefevre wrote:
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> well, at 4.x, FreeBSD sed doesn't support -E, is that GNU sed which support
> this option or 5.x FreeBSD sed ? for instance, GNU sed port doesn't exists !
Really? Funny. I'm not sure our sed is GNU sed. IIRC, it uses regex(3)
instead of gnurege
it works.
This definitely needs some work. I'm not sure the hints syntax will
change much, if at all. OTOH, I don't know how to approach this. In
other words, suggestions (and specially patches) are welcome.
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you get forth this will help.)
>
> If you're not doing forth/obp... my apologies for the irrelevancy.
> Mike Williams
He is talking loader(8). Mm. Sifting looks cool. I may add it...
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Jun Kuriyama wrote:
> And we should keep that master text simple to ease modification by
> hackers. If we force to write complex markups, hackers will *forget*
> to update that master text. :-)
I'm not sure I would *forget* it, but I my indulge in "forget"ing it.
:
I forgot to free the additional memory allocated by regcomp() at
regfree(). So, for now, regex(3) is leaking memory. I'll fix it in a
short while (but not immediately, sorry).
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m you had.
I'd rather bet the loader binary was above 1023 cylinders, and after
playing a while you replaced it with one below that mark.
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Does it happen to anyone else on this list?
>
> I see it in vi(1).
>
> Somebody enable the 'A' option of phkmalloc and examine the core.
>
> ln -sf A /etc/malloc.conf
Ok, everyone, my fault. Fixed.
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ake a
> symlink to another place. Unless of course we get /usr/obj working for
> kernel compiles
Huh? All my kernels created with buildkernel are compiled in /usr/obj.
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Don't touch boot. Nothing in the bootstrap is used by the kernel, and
there's just a few kernel files included by the bootstrap (wrongly,
IMHO). It's made by buildworld instead of buildkernel. Ideally, it
should be taken out of sys/ altogether.
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m doing something very stupid here, but i tried hard to make
> shure i'm doing not. Help
I recall there were lots of problems with syscons after the hints
change. *IF* people had the USERCONFIG option, things would work.
Otherwise...
I do not know if vt suffers from the same proble
p; cia.
> But the effect is the same, it still panics after
>
> atkbdc0: at port 0x60,0x64 on isa0
Did you add options USERCONFIG to see if that helps?
> Any hints from the more "hints-knowledged" would be highly appreciated .. ;-)
Well, I'm definitely not the peopl
thus, to merge the changes. If anyone have objections, please
raise them now. :-)
People wanting to test it, both sed and more use regex(3), and grep
doesn't.
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Alfred Perlstein wrote:
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> * Daniel C. Sobral <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [000709 12:46] wrote:
> > I think all bugs with the performance improvements to regex(3) have all
> > been solved now. I haven't heard of any problems for over a week about
> > the first impr
ome/work).
Thing is, SysV does it in a very ugly way, and not flexible enough
either.
This has been talked to death. Look at these:
http://www.freebsd.org/~dfr/devices.html
http://www.freebsd.org/~eivind/newrc.html
and my favorite substitute proposal:
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the time he decided to have a take on it, I traded many
messages with him about it. I know he had part of it working, and could
boot with it. After that, though, I never heard from him again.
Like you, I really like his proposal.
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ing. a major problem w/ this one is the
> use of "perl" which is not available a boot time since it is located in /usr.
I'm sure it can be easily done as a C program.
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not so difficult if a command do that for you. (show, change, start and stop)
Commands limit you in awkward ways. Hell, AIX has commands to do
anything with the configuration you might want, but that has not
prevented people from hating it... :-)
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ages:
> ---snip---
> Jul 30 00:54:04 Magelan -:0: unable to resolve symbol: pam_sm_chauthtok
> Jul 30 00:54:05 Magelan -:0: pam_ssh: could not connect to agent
> ---snip---
>
> Is someone else able to reproduce this?
If that's the case, you have a bug. Not one easy to trace, th
ore popular language with a freely
available interpreter that would fit in as small a space as FICL did.
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a group from what it is to
I almost wish I had one so I could debug it, but I have been
fortunate enough to get a version 2, which works as a
router/dhcp/nat/firewall.
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inally introduced when compiling FICL
so that boot wouldn't depend on that Evil Thing (Perl). But standard
FICL distribution uses a perl script instead of a awk one. OTOH, our awk
script removes more white space than the perl one, but that can easily
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You forgot -E (use extended regexp syntax), and the example you show
above is extended regexp syntax, not basic regexp syntax.
> I'd like to commit it after reviews if there is no convincing
> objection against it. Any suggestion is w
find(1)'s use.
It won't. GNU find certainly uses GNU regexp library, which has lots of
extra stuff. Naturally, our find will be using our library instead.
Nothing we can do about it. It is the way of the Gnu to extend
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or the "extended regexp" ;P
For that matter, anyone talking about "standard" regexp of any kind I
invite to take a look at the include file for gnu regexp, to see just
how many slightly different variants of regexp there are out there in
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modules. /boot/kernel.old/kernel would do, but why skip the loader
phase? Let loader proceed, interrupt the ten second count and then type:
boot kernel.old
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nexpensively many times over.
> >
> > Indeed. I'll do it soon, thanks.
>
> Updated.
>
> http://people.FreeBSD.org/~knu/misc/find_regex.diff
You might have done it, but the version above is not it. :-)
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David Malone wrote:
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> On Thu, Feb 22, 2001 at 10:39:47AM +0900, Daniel C. Sobral wrote:
> > It seems the error for kernfs is activating a couple of other warnings:
>
> I think Des retired kernfs in -current in a commit on 2000/12/28.
Let me follow up on this. Kernfs i
#x27;m seeing a lot of this again. Anyone else?
>
> Yep. ahc controller also. By chance is that the commonality to this
> problem?
MMm... I have an aic, though I'm fairly certain I got unsynced
buffers on ide.
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#x27;t have softupdates on root (but I do have elsewhere... which
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Acabou o hipismo-arte. Mas a desculpa brasileir
ldren+0x143
configure+0x39
mi_statup+0x68
begin+0x29
The problem DOES NOT HAPPEN when I have acpica in the kernel. With apm
instead, though, it panics each and every time.
Removing midi/seq from the kernel removes the problem.
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When using acpica some of my pnpbios entries do not get probed. In
particular, I never see reports on non-identified PNP IDs (even boot
verbose), nor does my ess 1869 gets identified or shown.
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Takanori Watanabe wrote:
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> In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Daniel C. Sobral" さんいわく:
> >When using acpica some of my pnpbios entries do not get probed. In
>
> Please send me DSDT block.
What a DSDT block? (looks down) Oh. Mmmm. Ok, l
Takanori Watanabe wrote:
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> In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Daniel C. Sobral" さんいわく:
> >When using acpica some of my pnpbios entries do not get probed. In
>
> Please send me DSDT block.
>
> >particular, I never see reports on non-identifi
Steve Kargl wrote:
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> The "r" in tape device names has traditionally meant "r"ewind.
Nope. When this was discussed a while ago we got some authoritative
information to the effect that "r" has always meant raw for tapes too.
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ting rc.conf(5) with a
host of new options, and avoids the mount_mdfs criticism leveled by phk
that md is not an fs (which is true enough).
It doesn't look even much difficult to implement either. I bet the most
annoying part would be writing md.conf(5).
Moreover, this solution seemed, at the
mission
> denied.
>
> showmount -e showed 192.168.5 was being interpreted as 192.168.0.5
This is the correct interpretation.
>
> Changing -network to 192.168.5.0 fixed it, naturally, but the 192.168.5
> used to work.
It was broken, then. :-)
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sed to work.
> >
> > It was broken, then. :-)
> >
> So an unlisted bug was fixed :-)
Quick! Open a PR about -stable! :-)
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all your kernels arpanic: blockable sleep lock
ng as simples as that.
Of course, since you _are_ that far from the machine, I'd recommend
testing anything locally first.
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all your kernels arpanic: blockable sleep lock (sleep
L_HERE
> make installworld
> mergemaster
>
> fsck all partitions, answering yes to all prompts
> tunefs -A -s all partitions, where N > 0
This is not optimal because userland may depend on a new kernel, so
things may go awry during that installworld step.
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graceful termination.
Regardless, the machine should recover once all (trouble) programs have
been killed.
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> helpfully stripped all the CR's off ficl205.tar before it was gzip'd -
> which upsets tar quite a bit).
Ugh! I wasn't aware of this, and I can guarantee this will be fixed.
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