Re: openoffice.org-3.01 packages available (i386)

2009-06-02 Thread Masoom Shaikh
On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 6:36 AM, Sergio de Almeida Lenzi le...@k1.com.br wrote:

 Hello,

 I have the package for openoffice 3.2m49 for the FreeBSD 7.2/amd64
 available for the languages EN and pt_BR in UTF-8, with
 full support for cups.

 If you are interested, I can upload the package (120Mb) in the
 tinderbox.

please do that


 I think it is interesting for the FreeBSD community, as
 with this port, FreeBSD is much ahead then the Linux office package

if it is, it is because of people like you, thanks Sergio


  Thanks for your attention,


 Sergio
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OOo just does not make sense to compile from source unless development
environment is needed. I compiled it last time and it took so long
that I felt I have wasted my time and computing power for almost same
result as pkg_add of pre-built binaries.
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fatal trap 12

2009-06-02 Thread georg
Hello, Freebsd-questions.

   I use FreeBSD 7.2-STABLE amd64. About month ago system was crashed
   with  Fatal trap 12...
   I bay new hardware and install new FreeBSD 7.2-STABLE amd64. cPanel
   and ASSP (anti spam proxy). And one a day or two days have this:

   Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode
   cpuid: = 0; apic id = 00
   fault virtual address = 0x80
   fault code= supervisor write data, page not present
   instruction pointer   = 0x8:0x8018b839
   stack pointer = 0x10:0xff807a25d190
   frame pointer = 0x10:0xea5f
   code segment  = base 0x0, limit 0xf, type 0x1b
 = DPL 0, pres 1, long 1, def32 0, gran 1
   processor eflags  = interrupt enabled, resume, IOPL = 0
   current process   = 59397 (perl5.10.0)
   trap number   = 12

   And alway, after crash, I see current process = perl5.10.0...

   Can You help me?


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Re: openoffice.org-3.01 packages available (i386)

2009-06-02 Thread Chris Rees
2009/6/2 Masoom Shaikh masoom.sha...@gmail.com:
 On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 6:36 AM, Sergio de Almeida Lenzi le...@k1.com.br 
 wrote:

 Hello,

 I have the package for openoffice 3.2m49 for the FreeBSD 7.2/amd64
 available for the languages EN and pt_BR in UTF-8, with
 full support for cups.

 If you are interested, I can upload the package (120Mb) in the
 tinderbox.

 please do that


 I think it is interesting for the FreeBSD community, as
 with this port, FreeBSD is much ahead then the Linux office package

 if it is, it is because of people like you, thanks Sergio


  Thanks for your attention,


 Sergio
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 OOo just does not make sense to compile from source unless development
 environment is needed. I compiled it last time and it took so long
 that I felt I have wasted my time and computing power for almost same
 result as pkg_add of pre-built binaries.

Couldn't agree more. You know it's like that when even the Gentoo
people have a binary package for it ;)

Chris



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Re: migrating berkeley DBs (4.3 to 4.6)

2009-06-02 Thread Erik Norgaard

Matthew Seaman wrote:

Erik Norgaard wrote:


I have cyrus-imapd 2.3 with Berkeley DB 4.3 and openldap also compiled
with BDB 4.3.

Now, openldap won't build with 4.3 and defaults to 4.6 so I need to
migrate my data, and I would like to migrate my cyrus-imapd also to a
newer version of BDB.

Are there any tools or tricks for doing this?

The BDB v4.4 port refers to a compatibility page maintained at
sleepycat, but this is now redirected to Oracle and I find no such
information. Any page listing the db file compatibility?


Yes -- I believe BDB 4.3 and 4.6 aren't binary compatible it seems.

For the special case of cyrus-imapd you should use cvt_cyrusdb(8) to
dump out the contents of cyrus DB files to ascii, update everything, and
then use cvt_cyrusdb to reload the data.


Thanks, it doesn't seem that you can use this tool to convert from one
version of BDB to another:

alpha$ /usr/local/cyrus/bin/cvt_cyrusdb
Usage: /usr/local/cyrus/bin/cvt_cyrusdb [-C altconfig] old db old db
backend new db new db backend
Usable Backends:  berkeley, berkeley-nosync, berkeley-hash,
berkeley-hash-nosync, flat, skiplist, quotalegacy

So, I can restructure but not upgrade... It doesn't seem like other 
tools are provided with cyrus-imapd.


I took a look on the files in my imap-dir, and it's a mess. Maybe the 
strategy would be to setup two servers and transfer mail one by one. 
Anyone got experience with this?


Thanks, Erik

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Re: IBM x345 Dual 2.8Ghz Xeon poor performance

2009-06-02 Thread Boris Samorodov
On Mon, 1 Jun 2009 19:54:20 +0100 Chris Nicholls wrote:

 I recently aquired and IBM eServer x345, which is taking up to 12 hours
 to build a kernel! I've spent quite a bit of spare time trawling archives 
 etc for any hints to the reason why.

I've got mothing similar with my Intel server. Then it was a memory
bank to blame. The server has been fine after replacing that bank.


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Re: openoffice.org-3.01 packages available (i386)

2009-06-02 Thread Manolis Kiagias
Sergio de Almeida Lenzi wrote:
 Hello,

 I have the package for openoffice 3.2m49 for the FreeBSD 7.2/amd64
 available for the languages EN and pt_BR in UTF-8, with
 full support for cups.

 If you are interested, I can upload the package (120Mb) in the
 tinderbox.

 I think it is interesting for the FreeBSD community, as 
 with this port, FreeBSD is much ahead then the Linux office package

  Thanks for your attention,


 Sergio
   

Thank you Sergio!
I currently don't have a suitable machine to run 64bit package builds,
so my packages are currently limited to the i386 versions.
If you have enough space and bandwidth to upload this somewhere please
do. Otherwise, hopefully Glen Barber may be able to assist ;)


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sshd: Did not receive identification string from xx.xx.xx.xx

2009-06-02 Thread Anton Shterenlikht
Could somebody point me to a relevant sshd documentation where
the cause of these rejection messages is explained:

sshd: Did not receive identification string from xx.xx.xx.xx

The user is trying to connect from some MS ssh client and gets
timeout. I get the above message in the logs.

I just could not find anything relevant in the docs or on the net.

many thanks
anton

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Re: Stable Mail Server And Web Mail

2009-06-02 Thread Wojciech Puchar
on what planet do You live? really at least 80% of mail that comes to my 
servers are spam. spamassassin deletes far over 95% of it fortunately.


It takes a few weeks before the spammers become aware of a brand new mail
system -- you have to send e-mail from the system before they can harvest
your addresses and start trying to sell you dubious pharmaceuticals.  Look on


Users of your mail service will help them very well.

For example sending christmas greets using CC: instead of Bcc:
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Re: openoffice.org-3.01 packages available (i386)

2009-06-02 Thread Wojciech Puchar

I have the package for openoffice 3.2m49 for the FreeBSD 7.2/amd64
available for the languages EN and pt_BR in UTF-8, with
full support for cups.

If you are interested, I can upload the package (120Mb) in the
tinderbox.

I think it is interesting for the FreeBSD community, as
with this port, FreeBSD is much ahead then the Linux office package


I don't understand why it's ahead, or behind or whatever.
Just good you made read to use openoffice binary package.

Those who needs openoffice program will say thanks. Those who rarely needs
openoffice will say too - including me. thanks!
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Re: IBM x345 Dual 2.8Ghz Xeon poor performance

2009-06-02 Thread Wojciech Puchar

to build a kernel! I've spent quite a bit of spare time trawling archives
etc for any hints to the reason why.


I've got mothing similar with my Intel server. Then it was a memory
bank to blame. The server has been fine after replacing that bank.


with no ECC machine it would simply crash. With ECC - it was probably 
constantly doing ECC that's why it was damn slow.


anyway - can hardware give any info for OS about how often ECC corrects 
errors?

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Re: sshd: Did not receive identification string from xx.xx.xx.xx

2009-06-02 Thread Wojciech Puchar

Could somebody point me to a relevant sshd documentation where
the cause of these rejection messages is explained:

sshd: Did not receive identification string from xx.xx.xx.xx


it's not rejection. sshd waited waited and didn't got next think it should

It may be ssh windows client bug or just connectivity problem.
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Re: openoffice.org-3.01 packages available (i386)

2009-06-02 Thread Matthias Apitz
El día Tuesday, June 02, 2009 a las 12:52:50PM +0200, Wojciech Puchar escribió:

 I have the package for openoffice 3.2m49 for the FreeBSD 7.2/amd64
 available for the languages EN and pt_BR in UTF-8, with
 full support for cups.
 
 If you are interested, I can upload the package (120Mb) in the
 tinderbox.
 
 I think it is interesting for the FreeBSD community, as
 with this port, FreeBSD is much ahead then the Linux office package
 
 I don't understand why it's ahead, or behind or whatever.
 Just good you made read to use openoffice binary package.
 
 Those who needs openoffice program will say thanks. Those who rarely needs
 openoffice will say too - including me. thanks!

I'd like to give this a try as well on 8-CURRENT; for the moment I have
my own compiled from the ports as:

$ pkg_info | fgrep openoffice
es-openoffice.org-3.2.20090412 Integrated 
wordprocessor/dbase/spreadsheet/drawing/chart/br

which works fine, but on quit it crashes while closing the display,
which could also be a bug in X11 libs or even in CURRENT; that's why I'd
like to try it with your pkg;

matthias
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Re: IBM x345 Dual 2.8Ghz Xeon poor performance

2009-06-02 Thread Chris Nicholls
On Monday,  1 June 2009 at K:49:59 +0200, Wojciech Puchar wrote:
 I recently aquired and IBM eServer x345, which is taking up to 12 hours
 to build a kernel!
 
 sorry if it's stupod question but do you have softupdates enabled?
 
Yeah, enabled
 I've spent quite a bit of spare time trawling archives
 etc for any hints to the reason why.
 
 Initally I thought it was the disks causing the problem, but the general
 usage of the machine and disk I/O is pretty snappy just seems to be CPU
 intensive operations where things seem to lag.
 
 caches disabled?
Disk I/O seems fine, and i'm getting good rates when testing with dd
and iostat, gstat show what i'd expect. I Initally thought it was the
disks but that was due to issues with getting the RAID controller
working correctlly which was sovled with the use if the IBM RAID tools
cd.

Regards

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var socket in random directories

2009-06-02 Thread Chris Rees
OK, so does anyone know why I get a socket called 'var' randomly
appearing in directories?

I always use ls -F, and it turns up as var=, as can be seen in my
ports directory.

[ch...@amnesiac]~% cd /usr/ports/
[ch...@amnesiac]/usr/ports% ls
CHANGES arabic/ finance/multimedia/ textproc/
COPYRIGHT   archivers/  french/ net/ukrainian/
GIDsastro/  ftp/net-im/ var=
INDEX-7 audio/  games/  net-mgmt/   vietnamese/
INDEX-7.bz2 benchmarks/ german/ net-p2p/www/
INDEX-7.db  biology/graphics/   news/   x11/
KNOBS   cad/hebrew/ packages/   x11-clocks/
LEGAL   chinese/hungarian/  palm/   x11-drivers/
MOVED   comms/  irc/polish/ x11-fm/
Makefileconverters/ japanese/   ports-mgmt/ x11-fonts/
Mk/ databases/  java/   portuguese/ x11-servers/
README  deskutils/  korean/ print/  x11-themes/
Templates/  devel/  lang/   russian/x11-toolkits/
Tools/  distfiles/  mail/   science/x11-wm/
UIDsdns/math/   security/
UPDATINGeditors/mbone/  shells/
accessibility/  emulators/  misc/   sysutils/
[ch...@amnesiac]/usr/ports%
[ch...@amnesiac]/usr/ports% uname -a
FreeBSD amnesiac.bayofrum.net 7.2-RELEASE FreeBSD 7.2-RELEASE #1: Sun
May  3 21:54:38 BST 2009
r...@amnesiac.bayofrum.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/AMNESIAC  i386
[ch...@amnesiac]/usr/ports%

I have an inkling it may be due to openldap, any ideas?

Any ideas?

Chris

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Re: IBM x345 Dual 2.8Ghz Xeon poor performance

2009-06-02 Thread Chris Nicholls
On Tuesday,  2 June 2009 at K:54:43 +0200, Wojciech Puchar wrote:
 to build a kernel! I've spent quite a bit of spare time trawling archives
 etc for any hints to the reason why.
 
 I've got mothing similar with my Intel server. Then it was a memory
 bank to blame. The server has been fine after replacing that bank.
 
 with no ECC machine it would simply crash. With ECC - it was probably 
 constantly doing ECC that's why it was damn slow.
 
 anyway - can hardware give any info for OS about how often ECC corrects 
 errors?
This feels like the right track, I'll run memtest86 on it later tonight.

Regards

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Re: JDK US DST Timezone Update Tool - 1.3.12

2009-06-02 Thread Lowell Gilbert
Kyle Grieb kyle@gmail.com writes:

 I get a dead link from [http://java.sun.com/javase/downloads/index.jsp] to 
 download the required file [tzupdater-1_3_12-2009a.zip].

It's up to /usr/ports/distfiles/tzupdater-1_3_15-2009g.zip now.
You need to update your ports.

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re: JDK US DST Timezone Update Tool - 1.3.12

2009-06-02 Thread kenneth hatteland
I have had the same problem when trying to compile OO this weekend. it 
is still unavailable. I have just noticed Sun about the problem and 
hopefully within a reasonable amount of time we have the tze tool back 
online


Kenneth
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Re: Flamewar ( was: Sponsoring FreeBSD)

2009-06-02 Thread Ruben de Groot
On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 01:08:30AM +0200, Wojciech Puchar typed:
 
 I still cannot understand why you - an active, experienced and
 knowledgeable FBSD user - would want to scare off potential donors for the
 
 once again please reread that post. it wasn't even potential donor, but 
 potential advert buyer. But if i'm really wrong, i will mail him and say 
 that he can buy advert on FreeBSD webpage for 100$.

I just re-read it.

1. Monthly sponsoring of around 50 to 100 USD 

That's *monthly*. It's not insubstantial as you keep implying, and it even shows
commitment, not a one-time shot. Hardly spam in my book.

What we ask for in return for our sponsorships is a short mentioning on the 
site somewhere with a link to our website. 

They don't want an advert but a link. That's what you get for 5000 USD/year on

http://www.freebsdfoundation.org/donate/sponsors.shtml

So, instead of being pissed on, they might have been persuaded to pay a little 
more, get their link and help the project as a whole.

Missed opportunity.

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Re: a binary package update

2009-06-02 Thread Martin Badie
Hi,

I have package-1.0  installed and want to update to package-2.0 using 
package-2.0.tbz package file. This binary package is at /var/tmp/packages/All. 
I have no /usr/ports directory

export PKG_PATH=/var/tmp/packages/All
export PKG_FETCH=/usr/bin/false 

portupgrade -PP postgresql-server

** Port directory not found: databases/postgresql83-server
** Listing the failed packages (-:ignored / *:skipped / !:failed)
- databases/postgresql83-server (port directory error)

Do I need to have /usr/ports/ installed on that system? I just want to upgrade 
to package-2.0.tbz without having anything related to Ports ( /usr/ports) on my 
systems? Just like a
rpm -Uhv package-2.0.rpm on  Linux. Can someone enlighten me on how to do that 
with portupgrade? Or maybe with another tool on FreeBSD?

Regards.





From: Polytropon free...@edvax.de
To: Martin Badie martinba...@yahoo.com
Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Sent: Monday, June 1, 2009 8:01:39 PM
Subject: Re: a binary package update

On Mon, 1 Jun 2009 02:03:10 -0700 (PDT), Martin Badie martinba...@yahoo.com 
wrote:
 Hi,
 
 How can I update a pre-compiled package [...]

You cannot update a pre-compiled package, you can only overwrite
or replace the package (tbz file). However, you can update an
installed port or package; in most cases, it doesn't even matter
if you installed from a port or from a package.



 [...] for example I have a package-1.0.tbz and I have downloaded
 package-2.0.tbz. What I want is to update a installed 1.0 package
 to 2.0 without internet connection.

Is is relatively easy, but you need to make sure first that you
have all the dependencies for package-2.0, for example libdep-1.3,
depend-3.2.1 and libfoo-0.22.7. You first need to fetch them.

Now a question: The system that has internet access: Do you want
to install the new packages there, too?



 I have portupgrade-2.4.6_2,2
 installed on my system.

If you answered the question with yes, then portupgrade can do it
for you. Simply update package-1.0 to package-2.0 and let
portupgrade create packages (-p). You can then transfer those
packages to the other system which can't fetch them by itself.

But if you answered no, the task would be as follows: Get the
newest version of a package along with all those packages this
new version depends on. In order to do so, you may use the
simple (and ugly) shell script I attached. It uses pkg_add to
fetch those packages, but it does NOT install anything.




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Re: JDK US DST Timezone Update Tool - 1.3.12

2009-06-02 Thread twelcome

I managed to work around this by plugging the package name into google and 
downloading it from non-Sun sites.



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To: FreeBSD-Questions@FreeBSD.org
Sent: Jun 2, 2009 2:31 PM
Subject: re: JDK US DST Timezone Update Tool - 1.3.12

I have had the same problem when trying to compile OO this weekend. it
is still unavailable. I have just noticed Sun about the problem and
hopefully within a reasonable amount of time we have the tze tool back
online

Kenneth
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Re: Stop in /usr/ports/lang/gcc43

2009-06-02 Thread matti k
On Mon, 01 Jun 2009 20:31:05 +0200
Leslie Jensen les...@eskk.nu wrote:

 
 Leslie Jensen wrote:
  
  
  David Kelly wrote:
  On Mon, Jun 01, 2009 at 08:06:30PM +0200, Leslie Jensen wrote:
 
  I can't get gcc43 to compile. I've deinstalled and reinstalled
  all its dependencies but it still fails.
 
  I'm on a 7.2-RELEASE system with all ports installed from a clean 
  install.
 
  The problem turned up when an update for fftw3 became available.
 
  Apparently gcc43 is a new dependency for fftw3!
 
  Any hints appreciated
 
  Add this to /etc/make.conf. Worked for me:
 
  WITHOUT_JAVA=1
 
  Apparently to build Java one has to increase the size of some
  tables in the kernel. I'd just as soon do without Java.
 
  
  It does not work here :-(
  /
 
 I also have this in my /boot/loader.conf but it makes no difference.
 
 kern.maxdsiz=734003200
 

Try with this?

kern.dfldsiz=1073741824
kern.maxdsiz=734003200

Cheers,
Matti
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HandbooK-Free BSD

2009-06-02 Thread Rafael E Garcia

Gentlemen
Please How I can copy the Free BSD Handbook in my computer? Any Sugestion  
will be apreciate.   Thank you Rafael E Garcia


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Re: var socket in random directories

2009-06-02 Thread Nikos Vassiliadis

Chris Rees wrote:

OK, so does anyone know why I get a socket called 'var' randomly
appearing in directories?

I always use ls -F, and it turns up as var=, as can be seen in my
ports directory.

[ch...@amnesiac]~% cd /usr/ports/
[ch...@amnesiac]/usr/ports% ls
CHANGES arabic/ finance/multimedia/ textproc/
COPYRIGHT   archivers/  french/ net/ukrainian/
GIDsastro/  ftp/net-im/ var=
INDEX-7 audio/  games/  net-mgmt/   vietnamese/
INDEX-7.bz2 benchmarks/ german/ net-p2p/www/
INDEX-7.db  biology/graphics/   news/   x11/
KNOBS   cad/hebrew/ packages/   x11-clocks/
LEGAL   chinese/hungarian/  palm/   x11-drivers/
MOVED   comms/  irc/polish/ x11-fm/
Makefileconverters/ japanese/   ports-mgmt/ x11-fonts/
Mk/ databases/  java/   portuguese/ x11-servers/
README  deskutils/  korean/ print/  x11-themes/
Templates/  devel/  lang/   russian/x11-toolkits/
Tools/  distfiles/  mail/   science/x11-wm/
UIDsdns/math/   security/
UPDATINGeditors/mbone/  shells/
accessibility/  emulators/  misc/   sysutils/
[ch...@amnesiac]/usr/ports%
[ch...@amnesiac]/usr/ports% uname -a
FreeBSD amnesiac.bayofrum.net 7.2-RELEASE FreeBSD 7.2-RELEASE #1: Sun
May  3 21:54:38 BST 2009
r...@amnesiac.bayofrum.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/AMNESIAC  i386
[ch...@amnesiac]/usr/ports%

I have an inkling it may be due to openldap, any ideas?


Not a really helpful response, but why openldap(or any other
program) would create sockets in random directories?


Any ideas?


You mean you see sockets appear and disappear on their own?
in random directories?

Maybe sou should do something like find / -type s and
then use stat(1) on the findings and see if birth timestamp
ring any bells.

Just a stub in the dark, Nikos
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Re: HandbooK-Free BSD

2009-06-02 Thread Lowell Gilbert
Rafael E Garcia rgarci...@verizon.net writes:

 Please How I can copy the Free BSD Handbook in my computer? Any
 Sugestion  will be apreciate.   Thank you Rafael E Garcia

Look at the Handbook on the web.
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/index.html
Right at the start are directions for downloading the Handbook in a
variety of formats.

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RE: HandbooK-Free BSD

2009-06-02 Thread Johan Hendriks


Gentlemen
Please How I can copy the Free BSD Handbook in my computer? Any Sugestion  
will be apreciate.   Thank you Rafael E Garcia

Try the following and download the pdf.zip file


ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/doc/en/books/handbook/

regards,
Johan Hendriks

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Re: HandbooK-Free BSD

2009-06-02 Thread Frederique Rijsdijk
Rafael E Garcia wrote:
 Gentlemen
 Please How I can copy the Free BSD Handbook in my computer? Any
 Sugestion will be apreciate.   Thank you Rafael E Garcia
 


/usr/share/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook


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Re: var socket in random directories

2009-06-02 Thread Chris Rees
2009/6/2 Nikos Vassiliadis nvass9...@gmx.com:
 Chris Rees wrote:

 OK, so does anyone know why I get a socket called 'var' randomly
 appearing in directories?

 I always use ls -F, and it turns up as var=, as can be seen in my
 ports directory.

 [ch...@amnesiac]~% cd /usr/ports/
 [ch...@amnesiac]/usr/ports% ls
 CHANGES         arabic/         finance/        multimedia/     textproc/
 COPYRIGHT       archivers/      french/         net/            ukrainian/
 GIDs            astro/          ftp/            net-im/         var=
 INDEX-7         audio/          games/          net-mgmt/
 vietnamese/
 INDEX-7.bz2     benchmarks/     german/         net-p2p/        www/
 INDEX-7.db      biology/        graphics/       news/           x11/
 KNOBS           cad/            hebrew/         packages/
 x11-clocks/
 LEGAL           chinese/        hungarian/      palm/
 x11-drivers/
 MOVED           comms/          irc/            polish/         x11-fm/
 Makefile        converters/     japanese/       ports-mgmt/     x11-fonts/
 Mk/             databases/      java/           portuguese/
 x11-servers/
 README          deskutils/      korean/         print/
  x11-themes/
 Templates/      devel/          lang/           russian/
  x11-toolkits/
 Tools/          distfiles/      mail/           science/        x11-wm/
 UIDs            dns/            math/           security/
 UPDATING        editors/        mbone/          shells/
 accessibility/  emulators/      misc/           sysutils/
 [ch...@amnesiac]/usr/ports%
 [ch...@amnesiac]/usr/ports% uname -a
 FreeBSD amnesiac.bayofrum.net 7.2-RELEASE FreeBSD 7.2-RELEASE #1: Sun
 May  3 21:54:38 BST 2009
 r...@amnesiac.bayofrum.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/AMNESIAC  i386
 [ch...@amnesiac]/usr/ports%

 I have an inkling it may be due to openldap, any ideas?

 Not a really helpful response, but why openldap(or any other
 program) would create sockets in random directories?

 Any ideas?

 You mean you see sockets appear and disappear on their own?
 in random directories?

 Maybe sou should do something like find / -type s and
 then use stat(1) on the findings and see if birth timestamp
 ring any bells.

 Just a stub in the dark, Nikos


[ch...@amnesiac]/usr/ports/print/lyx16% stat /usr/local/lib/webmin/init/var

78 566252 srwxrwxrwx 1 root bin 0 0 May  5 11:04:51 2009 May  5
11:04:51 2009 May  5 11:04:51 2009 May  5 11:04:51 2009 4096 0 0
/usr/local/lib/webmin/init/var

Interesting, seems to be the fault of webmin. I'll investigate further, thanks.

Chris

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Re: openoffice.org-3.01 packages available (i386)

2009-06-02 Thread Zbigniew Komarnicki
On Tuesday 02 of June 2009 13:01:26 Matthias Apitz wrote:

 which works fine, but on quit it crashes while closing the display,
...

I have also this same problem on i386. When closing OO then it produce core 
file.
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Re: IBM x345 Dual 2.8Ghz Xeon poor performance

2009-06-02 Thread Wojciech Puchar

constantly doing ECC that's why it was damn slow.

anyway - can hardware give any info for OS about how often ECC corrects
errors?

This feels like the right track, I'll run memtest86 on it later tonight.

if i'm right memtest86 will not detect anything as too - all errors get 
corrected.


for example - on your DIMM with 72-bit bus (64+8) one pin is dirty and is 
not connected well. then you'll get a single bit error every few 
reads/writes, and all will be corrected.


If you can disable ECC - do it, and then run memtest so it will detect 
errors.


If you can't, remove all but one DIMM, check if speed improved, if so, 
remove this and put other DIMM etc.. until you'll find what is bad.


Or maybe it will then work fine because it's just contact problem.
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Re: Flamewar ( was: Sponsoring FreeBSD)

2009-06-02 Thread Wojciech Puchar


http://www.freebsdfoundation.org/donate/sponsors.shtml

So, instead of being pissed on, they might have been persuaded to pay a little
more, get their link and help the project as a whole.


That's what i told - add two zeroes to be advertised.


Missed opportunity.


sure not.
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Re: openoffice.org-3.01 packages available (i386)

2009-06-02 Thread Wojciech Puchar

On Tuesday 02 of June 2009 13:01:26 Matthias Apitz wrote:


which works fine, but on quit it crashes while closing the display,

...

I have also this same problem on i386. When closing OO then it produce core
file.

ulimit -c 0
:)

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Re: openoffice.org-3.01 packages available (i386)

2009-06-02 Thread Glen Barber
Hi guys,

2009/6/2 Manolis Kiagias son...@otenet.gr:
 Sergio de Almeida Lenzi wrote:
 Hello,

 I have the package for openoffice 3.2m49 for the FreeBSD 7.2/amd64
 available for the languages EN and pt_BR in UTF-8, with
 full support for cups.

 If you are interested, I can upload the package (120Mb) in the
 tinderbox.

 I think it is interesting for the FreeBSD community, as
 with this port, FreeBSD is much ahead then the Linux office package

  Thanks for your attention,


 Sergio


 Thank you Sergio!
 I currently don't have a suitable machine to run 64bit package builds,
 so my packages are currently limited to the i386 versions.
 If you have enough space and bandwidth to upload this somewhere please
 do. Otherwise, hopefully Glen Barber may be able to assist ;)



Sergio,

If you need space to host the packages, email me off-list.

Regards,

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pcre

2009-06-02 Thread wclark
I am having problems starting drupal6 on 7.2 freebsd when i try strating
it on apache20 I get a error mesg that read PCRe boot strap
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Open_Source

2009-06-02 Thread madunix
Dear Experts,

I want to know out of your experience people the following,
1- How open source served your businesses  requirements?
2- What kind of application that running on Open Source?
3- General experience with Open Source technology?

Your input would be really appreciated.

Thanks
madunix
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Re: Stop in /usr/ports/lang/gcc43

2009-06-02 Thread Leslie Jensen

/

I also have this in my /boot/loader.conf but it makes no difference.

kern.maxdsiz=734003200



Try with this?

kern.dfldsiz=1073741824
kern.maxdsiz=734003200

Cheers,
Matti



Unfortunately it did not make any difference. The build error persists.
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Re: Open_Source

2009-06-02 Thread Glen Barber
Hi,

On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 11:12 AM, madunix madu...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dear Experts,

 I want to know out of your experience people the following,
 1- How open source served your businesses  requirements?

Allowing extensibility.  Generally, if something needs to be changed,
it _can_ be changed, and usually with minimal overhead.

 2- What kind of application that running on Open Source?

This is a very vague question.  Do you mean desktop or server
applications?  (I use FreeBSD for both purposes... Hopefully that
answers your question. :) )

 3- General experience with Open Source technology?


I believe people can get more experience in general with open source
technologies than they can with closed source.  The reason is simple:
I can look at the code.  I can study it.  I can see what
${APPLICATION} is doing, and how the developer designed it.  This, in
itself, makes me better at what I do, and better at troubleshooting my
own code.

On the same note, free software enables me to get experience with more
applications without burning through my wallet. :)

 Your input would be really appreciated.

 Thanks
 madunix



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Re: Open_Source

2009-06-02 Thread Wojciech Puchar


I want to know out of your experience people the following,
1- How open source served your businesses  requirements?


excellent.



2- What kind of application that running on Open Source?


All i needed - do you want a list ?


3- General experience with Open Source technology?


what exactly you want to know?



Your input would be really appreciated.

Thanks
madunix
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Re: Open_Source

2009-06-02 Thread Wojciech Puchar

I believe people can get more experience in general with open source
technologies than they can with closed source.  The reason is simple:
I can look at the code.  I can study it.  I can see what
${APPLICATION} is doing, and how the developer designed it.  This, in
itself, makes me better at what I do, and better at troubleshooting my
own code.


I would add - with Open Source add it's far smaller (actually close to 
zero) probability that it doesn't do anything except it's supposed to do.


I mean things like sending private data to someone else, scanning for 
other programs i have on disk, my addressbook etc.


If anyone would do this, soon someone else would see it because source 
code is available for everybody.


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Re: Open_Source

2009-06-02 Thread Steve Bertrand
madunix wrote:
 Dear Experts,
 
 I want to know out of your experience people the following,

 1- How open source served your businesses  requirements?

Our business would likely not exist if it weren't for Open Source
(and/or free) software. Other than our Windows workstations, a few
Windows servers, Cisco IOS and a few other specifics here-and-there, we
are all open source.

Everything is FreeBSD.

 2- What kind of application that running on Open Source?

Pretty much everything:

- routers (Quagga BGP, OSPF etc)
- RADIUS
- web servers
- email servers
- database servers
- backup (AMANDA)
- infrastructure config management (RANCID)
- performance graphing (MRTG)
- performance testing (iperf etc)
- troubleshooting (tcpdump, wireshark etc)
- traffic engineering (ipfw etc)
- communications (firefox, thunderbird)
- and hundreds more

 3- General experience with Open Source technology?

Very, very good. I find though that the more you give, the more you get out.

In our environment, things are very dynamic, and very custom. We can
change software live-time to make it do what we need it to do. Being
able to look into the source code makes it very easy to write custom
applications that 'hook in' to existing ones.

Steve


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Re: Open_Source

2009-06-02 Thread Jerry McAllister
On Tue, Jun 02, 2009 at 05:59:51PM +0200, Wojciech Puchar wrote:

 I believe people can get more experience in general with open source
 technologies than they can with closed source.  The reason is simple:
 I can look at the code.  I can study it.  I can see what
 ${APPLICATION} is doing, and how the developer designed it.  This, in
 itself, makes me better at what I do, and better at troubleshooting my
 own code.
 
 I would add - with Open Source add it's far smaller (actually close to 
 zero) probability that it doesn't do anything except it's supposed to do.
 
 I mean things like sending private data to someone else, scanning for 
 other programs i have on disk, my addressbook etc.

YES!This is the biggest of the three things I have against MS
and one of the main reasons for using FreeBSD and other Open Source
software as much as possible.

jerry

(ps. The other two are the quality of MS systems and MS business practices)

 
 If anyone would do this, soon someone else would see it because source 
 code is available for everybody.
 
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Re: HandbooK-Free BSD

2009-06-02 Thread Brent Bloxam

Rafael E Garcia wrote:

Gentlemen
Please How I can copy the Free BSD Handbook in my computer? Any 
Sugestion will be apreciate.   Thank you Rafael E Garcia




ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/doc/handbook/
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Re: Open_Source

2009-06-02 Thread Gary Kline
On Tue, Jun 02, 2009 at 12:18:09PM -0400, Steve Bertrand wrote:
 madunix wrote:
  Dear Experts,
  
  I want to know out of your experience people the following,
 
  1- How open source served your businesses  requirements?
 
 Our business would likely not exist if it weren't for Open Source
 (and/or free) software. Other than our Windows workstations, a few
 Windows servers, Cisco IOS and a few other specifics here-and-there, we
 are all open source.
 
 Everything is FreeBSD.
 
  2- What kind of application that running on Open Source?
 
 Pretty much everything:
 
 - routers (Quagga BGP, OSPF etc)
 - RADIUS
 - web servers
 - email servers
 - database servers
 - backup (AMANDA)
 - infrastructure config management (RANCID)
 - performance graphing (MRTG)
 - performance testing (iperf etc)
 - troubleshooting (tcpdump, wireshark etc)
 - traffic engineering (ipfw etc)
 - communications (firefox, thunderbird)
 - and hundreds more
 
  3- General experience with Open Source technology?
 
 Very, very good. I find though that the more you give, the more you get out.
 
 In our environment, things are very dynamic, and very custom. We can
 change software live-time to make it do what we need it to do. Being
 able to look into the source code makes it very easy to write custom
 applications that 'hook in' to existing ones.
 
 Steve


Yes!  Like Glen (prev post), I occassionally look at the src to see
how something was coded; this gave my own coding abilities a boost
and didn't hurt the original code a whit.   Interesting how muvh we can
learn from one another, isn't it?

The only rationale I've heard for closed source is that somebody could
steal the idea.  Or get a jump on creating a clone.  My experience has
been that EVERY bit of commercial code could be open; people would 
still 
want/need/demand/pay-for *support*.

gary





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Re: pcre

2009-06-02 Thread Bill Moran
In response to wcl...@dl1.njit.edu:

 I am having problems starting drupal6 on 7.2 freebsd when i try strating
 it on apache20 I get a error mesg that read PCRe boot strap

If English is your second language, you should look to see if there is a
FreeBSD mailing list in your native language.

Cut/pasting the actual error message into your question will also help you
get better assistance.

My guess would be that you don't have the php?-pcre package installed.
You can use pkg_info to check this, however I can't be sure that's your
actual problem from the information you've given.

The documentation on installing/maintaining packages is here:
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/ports.html

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Re: Flamewar ( was: Sponsoring FreeBSD)

2009-06-02 Thread Peter Giessel
 
On Tuesday, June 02, 2009, at 07:23AM, Wojciech Puchar 
woj...@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl wrote:

 http://www.freebsdfoundation.org/donate/sponsors.shtml

 So, instead of being pissed on, they might have been persuaded to pay a 
 little
 more, get their link and help the project as a whole.

That's what i told - add two zeroes to be advertised.

I can't resist.  The lack of math is killing me:

ONE zero.  ONE (1) ONE zero.

12 months/year * 50/month = $600/year
12 months/year * 100/month = $1200/year

$600/year / $5000/year = 0.12
$1200/year / $5000/year = 0.24 (or about a quarter of what is needed
for a link).

$417/month = $5004/year.

 Missed opportunity.

sure not.
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Re: Open_Source

2009-06-02 Thread Wojciech Puchar

I mean things like sending private data to someone else, scanning for
other programs i have on disk, my addressbook etc.


YES!This is the biggest of the three things I have against MS
and one of the main reasons for using FreeBSD and other Open Source
software as much as possible.


But i'm not agains micro-soft. If someone want to pay and be
controlled - his problem.

Today micro-soft doesn't even hide with this!! So it's clear - you pay big 
brother and he does well the job he's paid for!



(ps. The other two are the quality of MS systems and MS business practices)


I didn't mean microsoft but any commercial software.

Actually i just switched from opera to firefox for similar reasons.

I DO NOT say that opera doing such things, but i'm not sure it does not.

Every minute or so when i use opera is starts lots of disk I/O and slows 
down. It do so no matter if i'm loading some pages or do just nothing.


It wasn't happening with older versions, but with that
opera-9.64.20090302

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Re: Open_Source

2009-06-02 Thread Wojciech Puchar

The only rationale I've heard for closed source is that somebody could
steal the idea.


There will always be both of them. And that's OK as long as you can 
choose.

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Re: Flamewar ( was: Sponsoring FreeBSD)

2009-06-02 Thread Wojciech Puchar

I can't resist.  The lack of math is killing me:

ONE zero.  ONE (1) ONE zero.

12 months/year * 50/month = $600/year
12 months/year * 100/month = $1200/year

$600/year / $5000/year = 0.12
$1200/year / $5000/year = 0.24 (or about a quarter of what is needed
for a link).

$417/month = $5004/year.


You believe he will pay for 4 years?


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Re: Open_Source

2009-06-02 Thread Wojciech Puchar

other programs i have on disk, my addressbook etc.


YES!This is the biggest of the three things I have against MS
and one of the main reasons for using FreeBSD and other Open Source
software as much as possible.


I think we all forget about third case, open and closed source being first 
two.


The case when you PAY for the product, you are not allowed to copy it to 
others but you do get a source.


It was common years ago with software like unix. And still exist just it's 
not common.



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Re: Open_Source

2009-06-02 Thread Jerry McAllister
On Tue, Jun 02, 2009 at 07:44:46PM +0200, Wojciech Puchar wrote:

 I mean things like sending private data to someone else, scanning for
 other programs i have on disk, my addressbook etc.
 
 YES!This is the biggest of the three things I have against MS
 and one of the main reasons for using FreeBSD and other Open Source
 software as much as possible.
 
 But i'm not agains micro-soft. If someone want to pay and be
 controlled - his problem.
 
 Today micro-soft doesn't even hide with this!! So it's clear - you pay big 
 brother and he does well the job he's paid for!

I am, -- on my machines.
What someone else does is there problem unless it spreads to
my stuff.

 (ps. The other two are the quality of MS systems and MS business practices)
 
 I didn't mean microsoft but any commercial software.

I know, but I picked that as my example.

jerry

 
 Actually i just switched from opera to firefox for similar reasons.
 
 I DO NOT say that opera doing such things, but i'm not sure it does not.
 
 Every minute or so when i use opera is starts lots of disk I/O and slows 
 down. It do so no matter if i'm loading some pages or do just nothing.
 
 It wasn't happening with older versions, but with that
 opera-9.64.20090302
 
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Re: Open_Source

2009-06-02 Thread Steve Bertrand
Wojciech Puchar wrote:
 The only rationale I've heard for closed source is that somebody
 could
 steal the idea.
 
 There will always be both of them. And that's OK as long as you can choose.

Yes, I agree.

I use Windows as my workstation, because there are some specific
applications that require Windows to run. The rest of the applications
on my workstation are open source win32 apps.

Visio is the main one. I've been told that there are alternatives to
Visio that will run on *nix. However, the alternatives either:

- take more time (time * salary) to get configured than the cost of the
software
- take more time (time * salary) to familiarize myself with the
alternative than the cost of the software
- don't provide certain functionality that I need

ISPs are very dynamic in nature. From my experience in both the
enterprise and ISP environments, enterprise need to stay focused on
stability, whereas the ISP needs to be more adaptive to new technologies.

In the enterprise, I've found that it is by far more cost effective to
run almost exclusively on commercial software. The number of IT staff is
kept to a minimum, and let's face it, it's easier/cheaper to find an
employee with a Windows background than it is someone who has extensive
real-world open source operations experience.

Being able to modify software to fit our ever changing environment is
key, and so is knowing that (for the most part), the ability is there to
communicate directly with the developers.

Another side-effect of using open source software is that over time, you
learn how things *really* work. For instance, if you have garnered up
experience running an MTA on FreeBSD (and understand the logs etc), you
will undoubtedly be able to fudge your way through troubleshooting an
Exchange server, it will just take a bit of time to know where to click.
The reverse is not really true (from my experience).

Speaking of logging, open source applications do log...properly.

Steve


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Re: Open_Source

2009-06-02 Thread Wojciech Puchar


But i'm not agains micro-soft. If someone want to pay and be
controlled - his problem.

Today micro-soft doesn't even hide with this!! So it's clear - you pay big
brother and he does well the job he's paid for!


I am, -- on my machines.


but you want to be the owner of your computer. But most people - as they 
acts show - prefer to be owned. And micro-soft (and others) just give what 
they want.


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Re: Open_Source

2009-06-02 Thread Wojciech Puchar

There will always be both of them. And that's OK as long as you can choose.


Yes, I agree.

I use Windows as my workstation, because there are some specific
applications that require Windows to run.


You don't have to explain - you use because you want to :) that's all.


Being able to modify software to fit our ever changing environment is
key, and so is knowing that (for the most part), the ability is there to
communicate directly with the developers.

Another side-effect of using open source software is that over time, you
learn how things *really* work. For instance, if you have garnered up


But this is not because of open source. Some closed source too - allows 
you or even motivates to understand things. And some open source apps - 
try to prevent you from understanding anything.


It's depend of certain product, NOT only the fact of source availability.


Speaking of logging, open source applications do log...properly.


Depends of program. There are as much open source crap as closed source.
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Re: a binary package update

2009-06-02 Thread Polytropon
On Tue, 2 Jun 2009 06:15:37 -0700 (PDT), Martin Badie martinba...@yahoo.com 
wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I have package-1.0  installed and want to update to package-2.0
 using package-2.0.tbz package file. This binary package is at
 /var/tmp/packages/All. I have no /usr/ports directory
 
 export PKG_PATH=/var/tmp/packages/All
 export PKG_FETCH=/usr/bin/false 
 
 portupgrade -PP postgresql-server
 
 ** Port directory not found: databases/postgresql83-server
 ** Listing the failed packages (-:ignored / *:skipped / !:failed)
 - databases/postgresql83-server (port directory error)
 
 Do I need to have /usr/ports/ installed on that system?

If you want to use portupgrade - yes, I think so.



 I just want to upgrade to package-2.0.tbz without having
 anything related to Ports ( /usr/ports) on my systems? Just
 like a rpm -Uhv package-2.0.rpm on  Linux. Can someone
 enlighten me on how to do that with portupgrade?

As far as I understand, not possible. Portupgrade is not
the tool to do this.



 Or maybe with another tool on FreeBSD?

Yes, as I said, pkg_add is used for this. You can even use
it to overwrite the installed package (pkg_add -f).

In order to achieve what I thought you intend to do, use
the script I attached to you. It will download all the
packages required. Then, transfer them to the other machine,
and use pkg_add with the file name of the package you want
to install. It will usually overwrite everything with the
wrong version number that still does exist.





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Re: Open_Source

2009-06-02 Thread madunix
in my case i have the following:

Multiple linux/bsd distributions: (RHEL, SuSE, FreeBSD + commercial
UNIX as AIX)
Monitoring Application:(Cacti, Nagios, MRTG)
Backup utility:(rsync, tar, mondo)
Content Management system:(Jommla, Durpal)
Virtualization:(Wine)
Web Server:(Apache)
Web filtering:(Squid, dansgaurdian + blacklist)
Mail System:(Qmail, Postfix, sendmail)
DB:(MySQL)
Scripting:(Shell/bash,Perl,PHP)
Servers: IBM SystemX and SystemP, DELL
SAN storage: EMC, IBM DS8000

madunix

On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 7:18 PM, Steve Bertrand st...@ibctech.ca wrote:
 madunix wrote:
 Dear Experts,

 I want to know out of your experience people the following,

 1- How open source served your businesses  requirements?

 Our business would likely not exist if it weren't for Open Source
 (and/or free) software. Other than our Windows workstations, a few
 Windows servers, Cisco IOS and a few other specifics here-and-there, we
 are all open source.

 Everything is FreeBSD.

 2- What kind of application that running on Open Source?

 Pretty much everything:

 - routers (Quagga BGP, OSPF etc)
 - RADIUS
 - web servers
 - email servers
 - database servers
 - backup (AMANDA)
 - infrastructure config management (RANCID)
 - performance graphing (MRTG)
 - performance testing (iperf etc)
 - troubleshooting (tcpdump, wireshark etc)
 - traffic engineering (ipfw etc)
 - communications (firefox, thunderbird)
 - and hundreds more

 3- General experience with Open Source technology?

 Very, very good. I find though that the more you give, the more you get out.

 In our environment, things are very dynamic, and very custom. We can
 change software live-time to make it do what we need it to do. Being
 able to look into the source code makes it very easy to write custom
 applications that 'hook in' to existing ones.

 Steve

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Re: Open_Source

2009-06-02 Thread Wojciech Puchar


Multiple linux/bsd distributions: (RHEL, SuSE, FreeBSD + commercial
UNIX as AIX)
Monitoring Application:(Cacti, Nagios, MRTG)
Backup utility:(rsync, tar, mondo)
Content Management system:(Jommla, Durpal)
Virtualization:(Wine)


wine is virtualization?

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Re: top view different screens

2009-06-02 Thread Mel Flynn
On Tuesday 02 June 2009 07:50:34 Matthew Seaman wrote:
 Momchil Ivanov wrote:
  how can I view the second and third screens in top? Is it possible?

 Ah, now for that you'ld have to use middle(1) and bottom(1),  Unfortunately
 no one has written them yet...

 Seriously though: you can run top in an xterm and make the window as tall
 as you can bear, you can filter the top output by username, turn the
 display of idle processes on or off, sort the output order by any of the
 columns shown, or else you can forget top(1) entirely and use ps(1) to
 examine the whole process list.

I'd still appreciate the feature myself. sysutils/pftop has a pager, granted 
it's a bit more important there, but sometimes (especially on 80x25 consoles 
with your colo's airco breathing down your neck) it's convenient.

You can work around it, by dumping output to file and loading that in your 
favorite editor.
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Re: problem on a MX sendmail machine

2009-06-02 Thread Mel Flynn
On Monday 01 June 2009 11:33:59 RJ45 wrote:
 hello I have a FreeBSD machine

 FreeBSD infngw.infn.it 7.0-RELEASE-p2 FreeBSD

 being a MX record with high loads.
 I often ahve this message on logs right before the machien locks up.
 any hints ?
 thank you

 swap_pager: indefinite wait buffer: bufobj: 0, blkno: 482607, size: 61440

a) Check disk connectivity and health
b) Don't let your mailserver swap:
   - add memory and/or
   - divide load over multiple machine
c) Limit disk io if you cannot stop occasional swaps:
   - mailstore on different physical disk then queue, no swap on this disk
   - memory disk for logs
   - switch to Maildir if using mbox

Mailservers are particularly bad for swapping as every new request will 100% 
result in one disk write (the logfile) and possible more (header file, queue 
body).
-- 
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Re: Greylisting and new posters

2009-06-02 Thread Mel Flynn
On Saturday 30 May 2009 21:09:45 Chuck Robey wrote:

 Probably, the only thing that really might need
 another word or two is to make the services offered by FreeBSD-test list
 better advertised (it does still exist, right?)  People can post all the
 test mail they want to that list.

Nice story but don't see how it's relevant. FreeBSD greylisting is not server 
wide, but per destination, so the test list doesn't come into view even for 
pre-greylisting.
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Re: Math/Quote (Was: Flamewar ( was: Sponsoring FreeBSD))

2009-06-02 Thread Kevin Monceaux
On Tue, Jun 02, 2009 at 07:48:40PM +0200, Wojciech Puchar wrote:

 $417/month = $5004/year.

 You believe he will pay for 4 years?

This thread is starting to remind me of a quote:

You know, the very powerful and the very stupid have one thing in
common.  They don't alter their views to fit the facts.  They
alter the facts to fit the views, which can be uncomfortable if
you happen to be one of the facts that needs altering.

-- Doctor Who


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RE: Math/Quote (Was: Flamewar ( was: Sponsoring FreeBSD))

2009-06-02 Thread Gary Gatten
My Mom always told me if you ignore things long enough they'll go away,
so I've been trying to do that with several of these infinite mutating
threads.  That quote though is some funny $hit!  I'm gonna print it out
on a plotter and hang it in my cube!

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Subject: Re: Math/Quote (Was: Flamewar ( was: Sponsoring FreeBSD))

On Tue, Jun 02, 2009 at 07:48:40PM +0200, Wojciech Puchar wrote:

 $417/month = $5004/year.

 You believe he will pay for 4 years?

This thread is starting to remind me of a quote:

You know, the very powerful and the very stupid have one thing in
common.  They don't alter their views to fit the facts.  They
alter the facts to fit the views, which can be uncomfortable if
you happen to be one of the facts that needs altering.

-- Doctor Who


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cyrus-imapd spawning multiple processes

2009-06-02 Thread Jeff Laine
Hello, list.

I'm trying to set up cyrus-imapd on my host running FreeBSD 7.2-RELEASE.

The troublemaker is the cyrus. It starts and opens it's sockets, but whenever
I try to establish a connection to pop3 or imap ports (i.e. via telnet or 
cyradm) 
cyrus goes nuts and spawns child processes in endless manner, trashing logs 
with this:

tail /var/log/debug.log

Jun  2 23:27:35 free master[49269]: about to exec /usr/local/cyrus/bin/pop3d
Jun  2 23:27:35 free master[43639]: process 49269 exited, status 1
Jun  2 23:27:35 free master[49270]: about to exec /usr/local/cyrus/bin/pop3d
Jun  2 23:27:35 free master[43639]: process 49270 exited, status 1
Jun  2 23:27:35 free master[49271]: about to exec /usr/local/cyrus/bin/pop3d
Jun  2 23:27:35 free master[43639]: process 49271 exited, status 1
Jun  2 23:27:35 free master[49272]: about to exec /usr/local/cyrus/bin/pop3d
Jun  2 23:27:35 free master[43639]: process 49272 exited, status 1
Jun  2 23:27:35 free master[49281]: about to exec /usr/local/cyrus/bin/pop3d
Jun  2 23:27:35 free master[43639]: process 49281 exited, status 1
...

...until I stop the master process.


I tried both cyrus-imapd23 and 22 with default configurations but it
gives the same problem every time.

I have similar configuration on 6.4-RELEASE without such troubles.


Any advices would be much appreciated.


-- 
Best regards,
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Re: Math/Quote (Was: Flamewar ( was: Sponsoring FreeBSD))

2009-06-02 Thread Wojciech Puchar

This thread is starting to remind me of a quote:

   You know, the very powerful and the very stupid have one thing in
   common.  They don't alter their views to fit the facts.  They
   alter the facts to fit the views, which can be uncomfortable if
   you happen to be one of the facts that needs altering.

if you say i alter the facts just tell me about lost opportunity of 
sponsoring - did i prevent anyhow FreeBSD owners to talk to this 
potential sponsor to talk with him?


Maybe they even did. But it doesn't change my opinion about it's mail 
being something close to spam. that's all.


And many people's problem here is that they just can't accept other people 
right to show their opinion. If it's too different from their then it's 
important that thread is off-topic. If it's not - it's fine.


That's why i opted (and still do) for moderation. Lets eliminate ALL 
off-topic thread.


If not - then please accept every people right to present their opinion.
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Re: top view different screens

2009-06-02 Thread RW
On Tue, 02 Jun 2009 06:50:34 +0100
Matthew Seaman m.sea...@infracaninophile.co.uk wrote:

 Momchil Ivanov wrote:
 
  how can I view the second and third screens in top? Is it possible?
 
 Ah, now for that you'ld have to use middle(1) and bottom(1),
 Unfortunately no one has written them yet...
 
 Seriously though: you can run top in an xterm and make the window as
 tall as you can bear, you can filter the top output by username, turn
 the display of idle processes on or off, sort the output order by any
 of the columns shown, or else you can forget top(1) entirely and use
 ps(1) to examine the whole process list.

or you can do something like

top 999 |less  

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Re: Math/Quote (Was: Flamewar ( was: Sponsoring FreeBSD))

2009-06-02 Thread Jerry
On Tue, 2 Jun 2009 14:44:01 -0500
Gary Gatten ggat...@waddell.com wrote:

My Mom always told me if you ignore things long enough they'll go away,
so I've been trying to do that with several of these infinite mutating
threads.  That quote though is some funny $hit!  I'm gonna print it out
on a plotter and hang it in my cube!

Yes, it is from the Jan. 1977 - from The Face of Evil episode, written
by Chris Boucher. I have it hanging in my office.


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Re: Flamewar ( was: Sponsoring FreeBSD)

2009-06-02 Thread Chris Rees
2009/6/2 Wojciech Puchar woj...@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl:
 I can't resist.  The lack of math is killing me:

 ONE zero.  ONE (1) ONE zero.

 12 months/year * 50/month = $600/year
 12 months/year * 100/month = $1200/year

 $600/year / $5000/year = 0.12
 $1200/year / $5000/year = 0.24 (or about a quarter of what is needed
 for a link).

 $417/month = $5004/year.

 You believe he will pay for 4 years?


No... he is suggesting quadrupling the amount.

Big clue:

 $417/month = $5004/year.

Chris



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Re: Open_Source

2009-06-02 Thread Chris Rees
2009/6/2 Wojciech Puchar woj...@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl:

 Multiple linux/bsd distributions: (RHEL, SuSE, FreeBSD + commercial
 UNIX as AIX)
 Monitoring Application:(Cacti, Nagios, MRTG)
 Backup utility:(rsync, tar, mondo)
 Content Management system:(Jommla, Durpal)
 Virtualization:(Wine)

 wine is virtualization?


You're right, wine is NOT virtualization (sic).

It merely implements the 'Windows' API to make it available for
'Windows' programs. There is no 'translation' or 'emulation'.

This is why Wine is an acronym: Wine Is Not an Emulator.

Chris


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Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
A: Top-posting.
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Re: cyrus-imapd spawning multiple processes

2009-06-02 Thread Erik Norgaard

Jeff Laine wrote:

The troublemaker is the cyrus. It starts and opens it's sockets, but whenever
I try to establish a connection to pop3 or imap ports (i.e. via telnet or cyradm) 
cyrus goes nuts and spawns child processes in endless manner, trashing logs with this:



tail /var/log/debug.log


Jun  2 23:27:35 free master[49269]: about to exec /usr/local/cyrus/bin/pop3d
Jun  2 23:27:35 free master[43639]: process 49269 exited, status 1
Jun  2 23:27:35 free master[49270]: about to exec /usr/local/cyrus/bin/pop3d
Jun  2 23:27:35 free master[43639]: process 49270 exited, status 1
Jun  2 23:27:35 free master[49271]: about to exec /usr/local/cyrus/bin/pop3d
Jun  2 23:27:35 free master[43639]: process 49271 exited, status 1
Jun  2 23:27:35 free master[49272]: about to exec /usr/local/cyrus/bin/pop3d
Jun  2 23:27:35 free master[43639]: process 49272 exited, status 1
Jun  2 23:27:35 free master[49281]: about to exec /usr/local/cyrus/bin/pop3d
Jun  2 23:27:35 free master[43639]: process 49281 exited, status 1
...

...until I stop the master process.


It seems that when you try to connect with pop3 a child process is 
spawned as it should, but it dies unexpectedly so a new is spawned. 
Could it be something as simple as permissions to access the mailbox files?


Rather than relying on log files, try to launch the master manually with 
the -D flag, it may give you a more verbose output.



I tried both cyrus-imapd23 and 22 with default configurations but it
gives the same problem every time.

I have similar configuration on 6.4-RELEASE without such troubles.


Similar but not the same? Sounds like you should review again your 
config files, also, the versions of cyrus-imapd on your working 
installation, is that the same as the new one? Consider posting your 
configs in next post.



BR, Erik

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mailman-with-htdig 2.1.12 does not build

2009-06-02 Thread Beat Siegenthaler
Hi,

the Makefile try to get the patches for 2.2.12, but the newest from
www.openinfo.co.uk are still 2.1.11


= indexing-2.1.12-0.1.patch.gz doesn't seem to exist in
/usr/ports/distfiles/mailman.
= Attempting to fetch from http://www.openinfo.co.uk/mm/patches/444879/.
fetch:
http://www.openinfo.co.uk/mm/patches/444879/indexing-2.1.12-0.1.patch.gz:
Not Found
= Attempting to fetch from
ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/distfiles/mailman/.
fetch:
ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/distfiles/mailman/indexing-2.1.12-0.1.patch.gz:
File unavailable (e.g., file not found, no access)
= Couldn't fetch it - please try to retrieve this
= port manually into /usr/ports/distfiles/mailman and try again.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/mail/mailman.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/mail/mailman.

Maintainer does not answer.

My three options are:
- Wait
- Build without htdig
- Manually change Makefile for 2.1.12

Some suggestions ?

Kind regards,
Beat

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Re: Flamewar ( was: Sponsoring FreeBSD)

2009-06-02 Thread Wojciech Puchar

You believe he will pay for 4 years?



No... he is suggesting quadrupling the amount.


so we end in what i suggested in the beginning - 5-10 thousands.
just added option to pay by instalments

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Intel NIC issues

2009-06-02 Thread Graeme Dargie
Hi all

 

Ok lets not go to war over this I just need some advice.

 

I have a 1u rack system that has one of these motherboards
http://www.supermicro.com/products/motherboard/Xeon/E7501/X5DPR-iG2+.cfm

 

Now according to where I got the server and that page it is supposed to
have dual gigabit nics on board.

 

Dmesg shows the following

 

em0: Intel PRO/1000 Network Connection 6.9.6 port 0x3000-0x301f mem
0xfc22-0xfc23,0xfc20-0xfc21 irq 31 at device 4.0 on pci3

em0: [FILTER]

em0: Ethernet address: 00:30:48:24:84:f2

 

fxp0: Intel 82550 Pro/100 Ethernet port 0x4400-0x443f mem
0xfc321000-0xfc321fff,0xfc30-0xfc31 irq 17 at device 2.0 on pci4

miibus0: MII bus on fxp0

inphy0: i82555 10/100 media interface PHY 1 on miibus0

inphy0:  10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto

fxp0: Ethernet address: 00:30:48:24:84:f3

fxp0: [ITHREAD]

 

 

Now for reasons I can not fathom, one nic is showing just fine and the
other is using a different driver and only speeds of upto 100mbs.

 

I have tried both 7.1 and 7.2 So is the information on the board wrong
or is there something I am missing.

 

Regards

 

Graeme

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Re: Flamewar ( was: Sponsoring FreeBSD)

2009-06-02 Thread Peter Giessel
On Tuesday, June 02, 2009, at 12:44PM, Wojciech Puchar 
woj...@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl wrote:
 You believe he will pay for 4 years?


 No... he is suggesting quadrupling the amount.

so we end in what i suggested in the beginning - 5-10 thousands.
just added option to pay by instalments

The original poster several days ago suggested installments.  His original post
suggested $50-$100/month.  That is $600-$1200/year.  You repeatedly said that he
would need to add two zeros.  Adding two zeros would be $60,000 - 
$120,000/year.

This is not accurate.  Adding less than one zero would be more than sufficient 
to
obtain a link.

Instead of the original poster's range of $50-$100/month, the minimum amount 
needed
for a link is $417/month.  A modest increase over what the original poster 
suggested,
not 100 times what the original poster suggested as you repeatedly stated.
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Re: Intel NIC issues

2009-06-02 Thread Wojciech Puchar

em0: Intel PRO/1000 Network Connection 6.9.6 port 0x3000-0x301f mem
0xfc22-0xfc23,0xfc20-0xfc21 irq 31 at device 4.0 on pci3

em0: [FILTER]

em0: Ethernet address: 00:30:48:24:84:f2
fxp0: Intel 82550 Pro/100 Ethernet port 0x4400-0x443f mem
0xfc321000-0xfc321fff,0xfc30-0xfc31 irq 17 at device 2.0 on pci4

miibus0: MII bus on fxp0

inphy0: i82555 10/100 media interface PHY 1 on miibus0

inphy0:  10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto

fxp0: Ethernet address: 00:30:48:24:84:f3

fxp0: [ITHREAD]
I have tried both 7.1 and 7.2 So is the information on the board wrong
or is there something I am missing.


If that board would be really 2*1000Mbps, for sure producer would use 2 
the same chips. Then - it's impossible that FreeBSD would detect one chip 
properly and other - the same - improperly.


It's just wrong info.
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Re: Flamewar ( was: Sponsoring FreeBSD)

2009-06-02 Thread Wojciech Puchar

just added option to pay by instalments


The original poster several days ago suggested installments.  His original post
suggested $50-$100/month.  That is $600-$1200/year.  You repeatedly said that he
would need to add two zeros.  Adding two zeros would be $60,000 - 
$120,000/year.


Yes - i missed this monthly and sorry for this.


Instead of the original poster's range of $50-$100/month, the minimum amount 
needed
for a link is $417/month.  A modest increase over what the original poster 
suggested,
not 100 times what the original poster suggested as you repeatedly stated.


It would be very nice for people to just say about this at the beginning.

All i suggested was that 5-10 thousands are needed to get real advert on 
main site, which i repeated lots of times. Finally it was confirmed!


Wouldn't be much easier to just tell this instead of flamewars, attacks 
and using me to relieve one's personal mental problems?


Not for me, as i don't care about such kind of answers, but for everyone 
else reading this?


Or - completete nonsense - talking about lost opportunity 
of sponsoring.


Do you really mean i have enough power to just dumb any sponsors 
(potential, not potential) by writing a post on public mailing list?


Even at first post i wrote that i'm not FreeBSD owners and they will 
decide.


Maybe if i would be the man that gives 5$ PER YEAR i would have such a 
power. But i rather think not.

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Can One Query an Oracle 10 Data Base under FreeBSD?

2009-06-02 Thread Martin McCormick
The Subject is most of the question. We will need to query an
Oracle 10 data base and manipulate data. Is this presently
possible under FreeBSD?

Thank you.


Martin McCormick WB5AGZ  Stillwater, OK 
Systems Engineer
OSU Information Technology Department Telecommunications Services Group
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Re: Flamewar ( was: Sponsoring FreeBSD)

2009-06-02 Thread Wojciech Puchar

...
Even at first post i wrote that i'm not FreeBSD owners and they will
decide.


We're all human.  The potential sponsors might have missed the line
where you said that you were not an owner.


this way - nobody should write anyone. there is always a line that missed 
- completely changes a sense of sentence.




Just as you missed the bit where they were interested in monthly
contributions.


yes.





Do you really mean i have enough power to just dumb any sponsors
(potential, not potential) by writing a post on public mailing
list?


Any person might look at people in the community and decide that they
don't want to be a part of that community after all.  That's why it
would be nice if everyone could be courteous and helpful.

I'm not specifically referring to you, Mr. Puchar.  I'm talking about
the general case.


You are right. But do you try to say that we should think about 
consequences for potential sponsoring every word we say?!


Is FreeBSD FREE SOFTWARE or commercial product that's selling some way?

If first - then we should not care how much more/less money people will 
pay as a gift every time we post.


If second - then please Owners declare it clearly and just add statement 
about this.


Anyway - Do users of any commercial product support list must think if 
their words will lower the selling of the product? i don't think so.



But if i'm not right - please add on FreeBSD webpage/mailing list info

Every sentence that can potentially lower the income or core team are 
punished with 10 lashes. Erik Osterholm will be the executor.



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Re: Can One Query an Oracle 10 Data Base under FreeBSD?

2009-06-02 Thread Wojciech Puchar

The Subject is most of the question. We will need to query an
Oracle 10 data base and manipulate data. Is this presently
possible under FreeBSD?


grep -i oracle /usr/ports/INDEX|cut -b 1-75|more
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Re: Intel NIC issues

2009-06-02 Thread Erik Trulsson
On Tue, Jun 02, 2009 at 09:56:01PM +0100, Graeme Dargie wrote:
 Hi all
 
  
 
 Ok lets not go to war over this I just need some advice.
 
  
 
 I have a 1u rack system that has one of these motherboards
 http://www.supermicro.com/products/motherboard/Xeon/E7501/X5DPR-iG2+.cfm

Are you *sure* that you actually have that particular motherboard?

As you can see if you look through their product listings
( http://www.supermicro.com/products/motherboard/Xeon1333/#e7501 ) Supermicro 
has
several other similar models, some of which are equipped with one Gigabit
NIC and one 100Mbit NIC much like you seem to have..

 
  
 
 Now according to where I got the server and that page it is supposed to
 have dual gigabit nics on board.
 
  
 
 Dmesg shows the following
 
  
 
 em0: Intel PRO/1000 Network Connection 6.9.6 port 0x3000-0x301f mem
 0xfc22-0xfc23,0xfc20-0xfc21 irq 31 at device 4.0 on pci3
 
 em0: [FILTER]
 
 em0: Ethernet address: 00:30:48:24:84:f2
 
  
 
 fxp0: Intel 82550 Pro/100 Ethernet port 0x4400-0x443f mem
 0xfc321000-0xfc321fff,0xfc30-0xfc31 irq 17 at device 2.0 on pci4
 
 miibus0: MII bus on fxp0
 
 inphy0: i82555 10/100 media interface PHY 1 on miibus0
 
 inphy0:  10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto
 
 fxp0: Ethernet address: 00:30:48:24:84:f3
 
 fxp0: [ITHREAD]
 
 
 Now for reasons I can not fathom, one nic is showing just fine and the
 other is using a different driver and only speeds of upto 100mbs.

The obvious reason is that there is two different ethernet controllers
on that board - one Gigabit and one 100Mbit.

It is worth noting that according to the above, they are found on different
PCI-buses, while the dual-gigabit controller you thought you had is a single
chip where obviously both ports would be connected to the same bus.

 
  
 
 I have tried both 7.1 and 7.2 So is the information on the board wrong
 or is there something I am missing.

Most likely you have a different motherboard than you think you have.
The *complete* dmesg output as well as the output of 'pciconf -lv' might
be useful in determining what you actually have. (Opening the box and
checking for any useful labels on the motherboard can also of course be
useful, but is not something we can help you doing.)



-- 
Insert your favourite quote here.
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ertr1...@student.uu.se
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RE: Can One Query an Oracle 10 Data Base under FreeBSD?

2009-06-02 Thread Gary Gatten
Surely there's a native Oracle SQL or ODBC client in the ports
collection.  Have you checked there?

-Original Message-
From: owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org
[mailto:owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Martin
McCormick
Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2009 4:59 PM
To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject: Can One Query an Oracle 10 Data Base under FreeBSD?

The Subject is most of the question. We will need to query an
Oracle 10 data base and manipulate data. Is this presently
possible under FreeBSD?

Thank you.


Martin McCormick WB5AGZ  Stillwater, OK 
Systems Engineer
OSU Information Technology Department Telecommunications Services Group
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Re: Flamewar ( was: Sponsoring FreeBSD)

2009-06-02 Thread Chris Rees
2009/6/2 Wojciech Puchar woj...@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl:
...

 Do you really mean i have enough power to just dumb any sponsors
 (potential, not potential) by writing a post on public mailing
 list?

 Any person might look at people in the community and decide that they
 don't want to be a part of that community after all.  That's why it
 would be nice if everyone could be courteous and helpful.

 I'm not specifically referring to you, Mr. Puchar.  I'm talking about
 the general case.

 You are right. But do you try to say that we should think about consequences
 for potential sponsoring every word we say?!

 Is FreeBSD FREE SOFTWARE or commercial product that's selling some way?

 If first - then we should not care how much more/less money people will pay
 as a gift every time we post.

 If second - then please Owners declare it clearly and just add statement
 about this.

 Anyway - Do users of any commercial product support list must think if their
 words will lower the selling of the product? i don't think so.


 But if i'm not right - please add on FreeBSD webpage/mailing list info

 Every sentence that can potentially lower the income or core team are
 punished with 10 lashes. Erik Osterholm will be the executor.


Or, you could see from the attitude of the users that they don't
deserve your hard earned cash, and can carry on using an underfunded
operating system TO MAKE MONEY. Yes, that's you. I bet you don't talk
to YOUR customers like that.

Chris



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A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
A: Top-posting.
Q: What is the most annoying thing in a mailing list?
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Re: Flamewar ( was: Sponsoring FreeBSD)

2009-06-02 Thread Erik Osterholm
On Tue, Jun 02, 2009 at 11:20:23PM +0200, Wojciech Puchar wrote:
  just added option to pay by instalments
 
  The original poster several days ago suggested installments.  His
  original post suggested $50-$100/month.  That is $600-$1200/year.
  You repeatedly said that he would need to add two zeros.  Adding
  two zeros would be $60,000 - $120,000/year.
 
 Yes - i missed this monthly and sorry for this.
 ... 
 Even at first post i wrote that i'm not FreeBSD owners and they will 
 decide.

We're all human.  The potential sponsors might have missed the line
where you said that you were not an owner.

Just as you missed the bit where they were interested in monthly
contributions.


 Do you really mean i have enough power to just dumb any sponsors 
 (potential, not potential) by writing a post on public mailing
 list?

Any person might look at people in the community and decide that they
don't want to be a part of that community after all.  That's why it
would be nice if everyone could be courteous and helpful.

I'm not specifically referring to you, Mr. Puchar.  I'm talking about
the general case.  Like it or not, people who post on a mailing list
or forum of an open source project often make or break the project and
influence people's decisions to use support the project.  Ubuntu's
success is credited, in part, to the wonderful community.

Erik
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Re: Intel NIC issues

2009-06-02 Thread Tim Judd
On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 4:07 PM, Erik Trulsson ertr1...@student.uu.sewrote:

 On Tue, Jun 02, 2009 at 09:56:01PM +0100, Graeme Dargie wrote:
  Hi all
 
 
 
  Ok lets not go to war over this I just need some advice.
 
 
 
  I have a 1u rack system that has one of these motherboards
  http://www.supermicro.com/products/motherboard/Xeon/E7501/X5DPR-iG2+.cfm

 Are you *sure* that you actually have that particular motherboard?

 As you can see if you look through their product listings
 ( http://www.supermicro.com/products/motherboard/Xeon1333/#e7501 )
 Supermicro has
 several other similar models, some of which are equipped with one Gigabit
 NIC and one 100Mbit NIC much like you seem to have..

 
 
 
  Now according to where I got the server and that page it is supposed to
  have dual gigabit nics on board.
 
 
 
  Dmesg shows the following
 
 
 
  em0: Intel PRO/1000 Network Connection 6.9.6 port 0x3000-0x301f mem
  0xfc22-0xfc23,0xfc20-0xfc21 irq 31 at device 4.0 on pci3
 
  em0: [FILTER]
 
  em0: Ethernet address: 00:30:48:24:84:f2
 
 
 
  fxp0: Intel 82550 Pro/100 Ethernet port 0x4400-0x443f mem
  0xfc321000-0xfc321fff,0xfc30-0xfc31 irq 17 at device 2.0 on pci4
 
  miibus0: MII bus on fxp0
 
  inphy0: i82555 10/100 media interface PHY 1 on miibus0
 
  inphy0:  10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto
 
  fxp0: Ethernet address: 00:30:48:24:84:f3
 
  fxp0: [ITHREAD]
 
 
  Now for reasons I can not fathom, one nic is showing just fine and the
  other is using a different driver and only speeds of upto 100mbs.

 The obvious reason is that there is two different ethernet controllers
 on that board - one Gigabit and one 100Mbit.

 It is worth noting that according to the above, they are found on different
 PCI-buses, while the dual-gigabit controller you thought you had is a
 single
 chip where obviously both ports would be connected to the same bus.

 
 
 
  I have tried both 7.1 and 7.2 So is the information on the board wrong
  or is there something I am missing.

 Most likely you have a different motherboard than you think you have.
 The *complete* dmesg output as well as the output of 'pciconf -lv' might
 be useful in determining what you actually have. (Opening the box and
 checking for any useful labels on the motherboard can also of course be
 useful, but is not something we can help you doing.)



Using kenv smbios.system.product   might be a good indication of what you
have too.

Good luck.  Nothing like troubleshooting a piece of hardware from remote.
:)
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named: error sending response: not enough free resources

2009-06-02 Thread Chris St Denis
I occasionally get named errors like these in my messages log. I've done 
a lot of searching and have found others with similar problems, but no 
solutions.


   named[69750]: client *ip removed*: error sending response: not
   enough free resources
   named[69750]: client *ip removed*: error sending response: not
   enough free resources
   named[69750]: client *ip removed*: error sending response: not
   enough free resources
   named[69750]: client *ip removed*: error sending response: not
   enough free resources
   named[69750]: client *ip removed*: error sending response: not
   enough free resources

System isn't particularly heavily loaded. Load averages around 0.5, cpu 
averages about 90% idle, not swapping much.


Other messages on this subject suggest a shortage of mbuffs of an issue 
with the nic driver (the item I read was complaining about fxp, but I 
have em) so here is the related info.


   eureka# uname -a
   FreeBSD eureka 6.3-RELEASE-p1 FreeBSD 6.3-RELEASE-p1 #1: Mon Feb 25
   08:17:08 PST 2008 cstde...@eureka:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/EUREKA  i386

   eureka# named -v
   BIND 9.3.4-P1

   eureka# ifconfig em1
   em1: flags=8843UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST mtu 1500
   options=1bRXCSUM,TXCSUM,VLAN_MTU,VLAN_HWTAGGING
   *IPs removed*
   ether 00:30:48:94:0a:31
   media: Ethernet 10baseT/UTP full-duplex
   status: active


   eureka# netstat -m
   1240/2165/3405 mbufs in use (current/cache/total)
   1216/1290/2506/25600 mbuf clusters in use (current/cache/total/max)
   1216/150 mbuf+clusters out of packet secondary zone in use
   (current/cache)
   0/0/0/0 4k (page size) jumbo clusters in use (current/cache/total/max)
   0/0/0/0 9k jumbo clusters in use (current/cache/total/max)
   0/0/0/0 16k jumbo clusters in use (current/cache/total/max)
   2742K/3121K/5863K bytes allocated to network (current/cache/total)
   0/0/0 requests for mbufs denied (mbufs/clusters/mbuf+clusters)
   0/0/0 requests for jumbo clusters denied (4k/9k/16k)
   8/430/6656 sfbufs in use (current/peak/max)
   0 requests for sfbufs denied
   0 requests for sfbufs delayed
   999635 requests for I/O initiated by sendfile
   276104 calls to protocol drain routines


How do I fix this?


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Re: Flamewar ( was: Sponsoring FreeBSD)

2009-06-02 Thread Wojciech Puchar

Any person might look at people in the community and decide that they
don't want to be a part of that community after all.  That's why it


Just reread this and, ... don't you think it's quite like a good filter?

I don't talk about sponsors, but a new potential users.

If someone needs good unix, he/she will try it and join us. As i said 
before if he/she agrees with maillist users personal opinions doesn't 
matter at all. Rather if you can get answer to questions about FreeBSD.

You can, even easier if some moderation would be present here.

If someone needs to feel good, feel the spirit instead of good 
software etc... Let's better use Ubuntu or whatever.


Some people may want both, but well you can't have everything. It's not 
possible to everyone will agree with everyone on mailing list, and with 
every potential new user.


This keeps the system's quality high.
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Re: named: error sending response: not enough free resources

2009-06-02 Thread Wojciech Puchar
lot of searching and have found others with similar problems, but no 
solutions.


  named[69750]: client *ip removed*: error sending response: not
  enough free resources
  named[69750]: client *ip removed*: error sending response: not
  enough free resources
  named[69750]: client *ip removed*: error sending response: not
  enough free resources
  named[69750]: client *ip removed*: error sending response: not
  enough free resources
  named[69750]: client *ip removed*: error sending response: not
  enough free resources


quite misleading message, but the problem is that named want to send UDP 
packet and get's error from kernel.



possible reasons
- your firewall rules are the cause - check it.
- your network card produce problems (REALLY i have that case)
- the network/LAN named tries to sent UDP packet is somehow flooded.

i experienced all 3 cases. last is of course easiest to detect.



Other messages on this subject suggest a shortage of mbuffs of an issue with


no you are fine with mbufs, memory etc..
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Re: Flamewar ( was: Sponsoring FreeBSD)

2009-06-02 Thread Erik Osterholm
On Wed, Jun 03, 2009 at 12:03:06AM +0200, Wojciech Puchar wrote:
  ...
  Even at first post i wrote that i'm not FreeBSD owners and they will
  decide.
 
  We're all human.  The potential sponsors might have missed the line
  where you said that you were not an owner.
 
 this way - nobody should write anyone. there is always a line that missed 
 - completely changes a sense of sentence.
 
I'm sure you know that this is an absurd proposition.


  Do you really mean i have enough power to just dumb any sponsors
  (potential, not potential) by writing a post on public mailing
  list?
 
  Any person might look at people in the community and decide that
  they don't want to be a part of that community after all.  That's
  why it would be nice if everyone could be courteous and helpful.
 
  I'm not specifically referring to you, Mr. Puchar.  I'm talking
  about the general case.
 
 You are right. But do you try to say that we should think about
 consequences for potential sponsoring every word we say?!
 
 Is FreeBSD FREE SOFTWARE or commercial product that's selling some
 way?
 
 If first - then we should not care how much more/less money people
 will pay as a gift every time we post.
 
 If second - then please Owners declare it clearly and just add
 statement about this.

Isn't there a middle-ground?  Where we can care about how we present
ourselves, yet we do not feel beholden to the possible sponsors?

A good example would be to always respond kindly and appropriately,
yet not yield to demands made on us by others.

 Anyway - Do users of any commercial product support list must think
 if their words will lower the selling of the product? i don't think
 so.

They probably care less about the product.  I personally want FreeBSD
to succeed because it is, in many ways, superior to all of the
alternatives.  As such, I hope that when I discuss it, I present it in
a good light.  For example, if someone asks me, How do you do X in
FreeBSD?, I rarely suggest that the go read the fine manual.
 
 
 But if i'm not right - please add on FreeBSD webpage/mailing list
 info
 
 Every sentence that can potentially lower the income or core team
 are punished with 10 lashes. Erik Osterholm will be the executor.

More absurdity.

Erik
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Re: migrating berkeley DBs (4.3 to 4.6)

2009-06-02 Thread Mel Flynn
On Sunday 31 May 2009 15:23:34 Erik Norgaard wrote:
 Hi:

 I have cyrus-imapd 2.3 with Berkeley DB 4.3 and openldap also compiled
 with BDB 4.3.

 Now, openldap won't build with 4.3 and defaults to 4.6 so I need to
 migrate my data, and I would like to migrate my cyrus-imapd also to a
 newer version of BDB.

 Are there any tools or tricks for doing this?

 The BDB v4.4 port refers to a compatibility page maintained at
 sleepycat, but this is now redirected to Oracle and I find no such
 information. Any page listing the db file compatibility?

The big page @ oracle is here:
http://www.oracle.com/technology/documentation/berkeley-db/db/ref/upgrade/process.html

Additional info and details:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=470084
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at/batch subsystem time limit

2009-06-02 Thread Jim Pazarena

Is there a upper execution (or real) time limit that the system
enforces on at jobs?

I have an at job which would run for at least two hours .. IF it would
run to completion, but it always seems to die for unknown reasons.
I do not get an email or any advice of the reason the job has terminated.

So I was thinking that there may be a kernel timer which kills the job.

is this possible?
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Re: Flamewar ( was: Sponsoring FreeBSD)

2009-06-02 Thread Erik Osterholm
On Wed, Jun 03, 2009 at 12:34:55AM +0200, Wojciech Puchar wrote:
  Any person might look at people in the community and decide that they
  don't want to be a part of that community after all.  That's why it
 
 Just reread this and, ... don't you think it's quite like a good filter?
 
 I don't talk about sponsors, but a new potential users.
 
 If someone needs good unix, he/she will try it and join us. As i said 
 before if he/she agrees with maillist users personal opinions doesn't 
 matter at all. Rather if you can get answer to questions about FreeBSD.
 You can, even easier if some moderation would be present here.

Considering that the mailing list is one of the few places where
support exists, I don't know that I can agree with you.

Also, I don't think that an artificial filter or barrier-to-entry is
desirable, in general.  If a person needs good unix, but they don't
learn well by reading technical documentation, a good community can be
highly beneficial.  Personally, I wouldn't want to discriminate
against users for this.


 Some people may want both, but well you can't have everything. It's not 
 possible to everyone will agree with everyone on mailing list, and with 
 every potential new user.

I know that disagreeing is inevitable.  My position is that a pleasant
tone would be nice.  An example of a harsh tone (one which I haven't
seen on here) is telling someone to RTFM.  Another example (which I
have seen on here) is people who just enjoy arguing turning reasonable
threads into flamewars.


 This keeps the system's quality high.

I politely disagree.  I doubt that a harsh community does anything to
maintain a high-quality system.

Erik
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Re: Flamewar ( was: Sponsoring FreeBSD)

2009-06-02 Thread Wojciech Puchar

this way - nobody should write anyone. there is always a line that missed
- completely changes a sense of sentence.


I'm sure you know that this is an absurd proposition.


It's just explanation. You can't write anything that will be absolutely 
resistible to misreading.




If second - then please Owners declare it clearly and just add
statement about this.


Isn't there a middle-ground?  Where we can care about how we present
ourselves, yet we do not feel beholden to the possible sponsors?

A good example would be to always respond kindly and appropriately,


There is some difference between responding kindly, and shutting up being 
aware that your opinion may be not accepted by potential new users.


If you are for the second - you propose that any non-standard opinion 
should not be presented.


Actually - this way FreeBSD should cease to exist, because it's 
based on non-standard opinions about how operating system should be done - 
contrary to standard which define things like micro-soft windows.



Anyway - Do users of any commercial product support list must think
if their words will lower the selling of the product? i don't think
so.


They probably care less about the product.  I personally want FreeBSD
to succeed because it is


Why you want it to succeed? IT ALREADY DID!

You should want it only to be kept that way - keeping the quality.


, in many ways, superior to all of the
alternatives.


No - in many ways it does not have alternatives at all.


 As such, I hope that when I discuss it, I present it in
a good light.  For example, if someone asks me, How do you do X in
FreeBSD?, I rarely suggest that the go read the fine manual.


And i do - when the answer is clearly readable in manual. So i help reader 
can both get answer to his question and learn how to use man(1)



Every sentence that can potentially lower the income or core team
are punished with 10 lashes. Erik Osterholm will be the executor.


More absurdity.


Really no sense of humour?
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Re: Flamewar ( was: Sponsoring FreeBSD)

2009-06-02 Thread Wojciech Puchar

matter at all. Rather if you can get answer to questions about FreeBSD.
You can, even easier if some moderation would be present here.


Considering that the mailing list is one of the few places where
support exists, I don't know that I can agree with you.

Also, I don't think that an artificial filter or barrier-to-entry is
desirable, in general.


Definitely is. It saves our time and their time.


but they don't learn well by reading technical documentation


Then he/she don't need unix, or at least will not ever be able to use it 
without ability to read the documentation.



Some people may want both, but well you can't have everything. It's not
possible to everyone will agree with everyone on mailing list, and with
every potential new user.


I know that disagreeing is inevitable.  My position is that a pleasant
tone would be nice.


Mine too. What i really don't like here sometimes are lack of discussion, 
just agressive answers from some people.



 An example of a harsh tone (one which I haven't
seen on here) is telling someone to RTFM.


No it isn't if you point out WHICH manual - which i always do.


 Another example (which I
have seen on here) is people who just enjoy arguing turning reasonable
threads into flamewars.


Maybe they enjoy, but usually - they just can't resist different opinions 
and start to attack personally.





This keeps the system's quality high.


I politely disagree.  I doubt that a harsh community does anything to
maintain a high-quality system.


Why harsh? I don't understand you here.
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Set task priority

2009-06-02 Thread Steve Bertrand
Hi everyone,

I'm attempting to mysqldump a database on a box that is hovering near
max CPU and mem usage.

When I run the command, other critical programs fail to respond causing
an 'outage-like' situation.

Normally, this is a time-of-day task and will run happily later into the
night, but I want to run it now.

What is the best way to set priority on my task in order to ensure it
completes as quickly as possible, but does not cause a situation where
other programs and their children can't respond?

Steve


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RE: Can One Query an Oracle 10 Data Base under FreeBSD?

2009-06-02 Thread Michael L. Squires

On Tue, 2 Jun 2009, Gary Gatten wrote:


Surely there's a native Oracle SQL or ODBC client in the ports
collection.  Have you checked there?

-Original Message-
From: owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org
[mailto:owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Martin
McCormick
Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2009 4:59 PM
To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject: Can One Query an Oracle 10 Data Base under FreeBSD?

The Subject is most of the question. We will need to query an
Oracle 10 data base and manipulate data. Is this presently
possible under FreeBSD?

Thank you.


Martin McCormick WB5AGZ  Stillwater, OK
Systems Engineer
OSU Information Technology Department Telecommunications Services Group


There is a port of the Oracle instant client which runs under Linux
emulation in /usr/ports/databases/linux-oracle-instantclient-basic,sdk,sqlplus

This appears to use the 10.2.0.3 Oracle Linux instant client.

I used them some time ago to query an Oracle 10g server, but I didn't test 
them extensively.


There are also what appear to be older native clients from the Oracle 7 and 8
days, including an Oracle ODBC client.

A search of the freebsd-databases mailing list might turn up something.

I've been peeking at Talend's Open Studio which appears to be a very powerful
tool for working with databases, including Oracle.  This may be trying to
shoot a mouse with a 155mm self-propelled gun, however.  Talend is open source
and there are Linux binaries which may run under FreeBSD Linux emulation.

Mike Squires
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Re: Set task priority

2009-06-02 Thread Glen Barber
Hi Steve

On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 7:05 PM, Steve Bertrand st...@ibctech.ca wrote:
 Hi everyone,

 I'm attempting to mysqldump a database on a box that is hovering near
 max CPU and mem usage.

 When I run the command, other critical programs fail to respond causing
 an 'outage-like' situation.

 Normally, this is a time-of-day task and will run happily later into the
 night, but I want to run it now.

 What is the best way to set priority on my task in order to ensure it
 completes as quickly as possible, but does not cause a situation where
 other programs and their children can't respond?


You can use nice(1) or renice(1) to set priorities, but I/O and
bandwidth will end up being your bottleneck.

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Re: Set task priority

2009-06-02 Thread Wojciech Puchar

When I run the command, other critical programs fail to respond causing
an 'outage-like' situation.

Normally, this is a time-of-day task and will run happily later into the
night, but I want to run it now.

What is the best way to set priority on my task in order to ensure it
completes as quickly as possible, but does not cause a situation where
other programs and their children can't respond?


generally single program could not make that - FreeBSD schedules tasks 
well. in certain cases it may be like that.


For example - programs that runs for long time constantly and uses CPU 
gets automatically downgraded so your newly run backup task can make 
them really out of CPU power.


man nice

will help you - get your backup program priority down.


Actually i don't know if downgrading (called autorenice) can be disabled 
for certain processes. If would make sense for - say - database servers.


Anyone know?
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Re: Intel NIC issues

2009-06-02 Thread Michael L. Squires




On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 4:07 PM, Erik Trulsson ertr1...@student.uu.sewrote:

Using kenv smbios.system.product   might be a good indication of what you
have too.



Running kenv smbios.system.product on two of my machines with Supermicro
motherboards gives me P4SSE and P4DC6 which are both correct.

I know Supermicro has made variants of boards for vendors; for example, I
have a P4DC6 which has no RAID card slot (the solder pads are there, not
the card connector) although this is alleged to be a standard feature of
the P4DC6 in the Supermicro manual.

I have a 1U server (the P4SSE) with a bge gigabit Ethernet NIC; rather
than fight with the cards issues I installed an Intel PCI-X gigabit card,
cost $15.  Now that the bge problems appear to be solved I may go back
to it, however.  (The Intel NIC uses an internal riser which allows for
one card).  If your vendor promised you two gigabit NICs this may be the
cheap solution (other than replacing the motherboard).

I'm using Intel Pro/1000 and Pro/100 cards exclusively, except in a 
notebook, and I've never found FreeBSD to incorrectly identify the 
card.


Mike Squires

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Re: Set task priority

2009-06-02 Thread Steve Bertrand
Glen Barber wrote:
 Hi Steve
 
 On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 7:05 PM, Steve Bertrand st...@ibctech.ca wrote:
 Hi everyone,

 I'm attempting to mysqldump a database on a box that is hovering near
 max CPU and mem usage.

 When I run the command, other critical programs fail to respond causing
 an 'outage-like' situation.

 Normally, this is a time-of-day task and will run happily later into the
 night, but I want to run it now.

 What is the best way to set priority on my task in order to ensure it
 completes as quickly as possible, but does not cause a situation where
 other programs and their children can't respond?

 
 You can use nice(1) or renice(1) to set priorities, but I/O and
 bandwidth will end up being your bottleneck.

Thanks Glen,

I'll have to play around a bit. Looking closer, it does appear to be a
disk I/O issue, but I figured that if I tried to prioritize the job, it
might ease-up on all system aspects.

Cheers,

Steve


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Re: named: error sending response: not enough free resources

2009-06-02 Thread Chris St Denis

Wojciech Puchar wrote:
lot of searching and have found others with similar problems, but no 
solutions.


  named[69750]: client *ip removed*: error sending response: not
  enough free resources
  named[69750]: client *ip removed*: error sending response: not
  enough free resources
  named[69750]: client *ip removed*: error sending response: not
  enough free resources
  named[69750]: client *ip removed*: error sending response: not
  enough free resources
  named[69750]: client *ip removed*: error sending response: not
  enough free resources


quite misleading message, but the problem is that named want to send 
UDP packet and get's error from kernel.



possible reasons
- your firewall rules are the cause - check it.


   Nope

   eureka# ipfw list
   00100 allow ip from any to any via lo0
   00200 deny ip from any to 127.0.0.0/8
   00300 deny ip from 127.0.0.0/8 to any
   65534 allow ip from any to any
   65535 deny ip from any to any


- your network card produce problems (REALLY i have that case)


   I have had this kind of error on multiple servers over the years, so
   i don't think it's a hardware problem.


- the network/LAN named tries to sent UDP packet is somehow flooded.


   Dns is probably fairly busy. It's the primary authorative dns for
   some busy domains. Is there a setting I can do to increase the
   limits of UDP packets to keep it from causing problems?

   The server is approaching it's 10 mbps interface speed during peak
   hours, I may need to upgrade it to 100mbps.



i experienced all 3 cases. last is of course easiest to detect.



Other messages on this subject suggest a shortage of mbuffs of an 
issue with


no you are fine with mbufs, memory etc..
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Re: Set task priority

2009-06-02 Thread Greg Larkin
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Steve Bertrand wrote:
 Glen Barber wrote:
 Hi Steve

 On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 7:05 PM, Steve Bertrand st...@ibctech.ca wrote:
 Hi everyone,

 I'm attempting to mysqldump a database on a box that is hovering near
 max CPU and mem usage.

 When I run the command, other critical programs fail to respond causing
 an 'outage-like' situation.

 Normally, this is a time-of-day task and will run happily later into the
 night, but I want to run it now.

 What is the best way to set priority on my task in order to ensure it
 completes as quickly as possible, but does not cause a situation where
 other programs and their children can't respond?

 You can use nice(1) or renice(1) to set priorities, but I/O and
 bandwidth will end up being your bottleneck.
 
 Thanks Glen,
 
 I'll have to play around a bit. Looking closer, it does appear to be a
 disk I/O issue, but I figured that if I tried to prioritize the job, it
 might ease-up on all system aspects.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Steve

Hi Steve,

I had the same situation here, and nice(1) wasn't cutting it for me.  I
finally switched to idprio(1):
http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=idpriosourceid=opensearch

idprio 31 mysqldump .

will run only when other processes are idle.  That should prevent any
further self-incurred DOS symptoms for you.

Cheers,
Greg
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Re: Set task priority

2009-06-02 Thread Steve Bertrand
Greg Larkin wrote:
 Steve Bertrand wrote:

 I'll have to play around a bit. Looking closer, it does appear to be a
 disk I/O issue, but I figured that if I tried to prioritize the job, it
 might ease-up on all system aspects.

 I had the same situation here, and nice(1) wasn't cutting it for me.  I
 finally switched to idprio(1):
 http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=idpriosourceid=opensearch
 
 idprio 31 mysqldump .
 
 will run only when other processes are idle.  That should prevent any
 further self-incurred DOS symptoms for you.

Ok that looks promising.

I will give that a try and see how it goes.

Before I ask how mysqldump works, I'll have to do some research on
when/how/if/how long it holds the db tables unreadable/unwritable during
it's process, if it does it at all.

Steve


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Re: Set task priority

2009-06-02 Thread Glen Barber
Greg,

On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 7:19 PM, Greg Larkin glar...@freebsd.org wrote:

 I had the same situation here, and nice(1) wasn't cutting it for me.  I
 finally switched to idprio(1):
 http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=idpriosourceid=opensearch

 idprio 31 mysqldump .

 will run only when other processes are idle.  That should prevent any
 further self-incurred DOS symptoms for you.


Very cool.  I'll have to add that to my toolbox. :)

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