Re: mounting linux

[jens]

On Tuesday 27 July 2004 08:23, John Widenoja wrote:
Your linux fs must be ext2 or ext3
Compile in the kernel the 
option EXT2FS
command line after reboot
mount_ext2  /dev/adxxx /mnt with eventually the -o ro option gentoo for 
example).

Kind regards. 

Jens 





> I appologize in advance for having to ask this question. I have skimmed
> through the manual, and have missed the answer.
>
> I use BSD on a disk which is 50-50 win 98 and 5.2. I use, on the same
> computer win ME and RH linux 8.0. I can access the dos partitions with
> no problem using "mount_msdosfs", but no matter what I try, I am unable
> to access the RH partition.
>
> The RH partition is on a scsi U-160 drive, but the dos side is right there.
>
> I would appreciate any suggestions on how to mount the linux partition.
>
> Thanks,
> John Widenoja
>
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mounting linux

[John Widenoja]

I appologize in advance for having to ask this question. I have skimmed 
through the manual, and have missed the answer.

I use BSD on a disk which is 50-50 win 98 and 5.2. I use, on the same 
computer win ME and RH linux 8.0. I can access the dos partitions with 
no problem using "mount_msdosfs", but no matter what I try, I am unable 
to access the RH partition.

The RH partition is on a scsi U-160 drive, but the dos side is right there.
I would appreciate any suggestions on how to mount the linux partition.
Thanks,
John Widenoja
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BandwidthD syntax error?

[Peter]

use ports install bandwidthd For FreeBSD 4.10

can't use bandwidthd (FreeBSD 4.10)?
you can try it ^^

##
about this error ：

Syntax Error "parse error" on line 40 
Syntax Error "parse error" on line 40 
Syntax Error "parse error" on line 40 
Syntax Error "parse error" on line 40 

##
ports：

libpcap ( http://www.tcpdump.org/ )
/usr/ports/net/libpcap

libpng (http://www.libpng.org/ )
/usr/ports/graphics/png

##

Install step：

1. make deinstall "libpcap" and "libpng" and "bandwidthd"
2. make install "libpcap"
3. make install "libpng"
4. make install "bandwidthd"

now i can use bandwidthd ^^
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Re: NFS Problem

[Luke Kearney]

On Mon, 26 Jul 2004 23:33:36 -0500
"V.Nair" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> spake thus:

> Hello all,
> 
>   I am running FreeBSD 5.2.1 and am having problems with NFS. I have an NFS 
> server that is also running 5.2.1. The client is able to mount the NFS 
> export and I am able to get a directory listing. However, I am unable to 
> write to the NFS mount from the client, even as root.  This is what my 
> relevant /etc/fstab line looks like:
> 
> 
> taffy:/media  /media  nfs rw  0   0
> 
> 
> Any suggestion would be appreciated.
> 
> 
> VN

have users been mapped to a user on the nfs server itself ? 

ie:  -maproot=UID 

HTH

LukeK

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Re[2]: implementing spf

[Gary]

Hi Kevin / Robert,

On Mon, 26 Jul 2004 10:39:59 -0700 (PDT) UTC (7/26/2004, 12:39 PM -0500 UTC
my time), Kevin Stevens and On Mon, 26 Jul 2004, Robert Storey wrote in part:

>> Specifically:
>>
>>   1) Is the technology useful?
>>
>>   2) How does one implement spf on the server side?
>>
>>   3) How does one implement spf on the client side?
>>
>> I most interested in No. 3 above - specifically, is there anything that
>> I must do as an end-user to make use of spf?

K> As an end-user, nothing.  http://spf.pobox.com/users.html.  Same site for
K> a general FAQ which addresses implementation (it's done via DNS records).
K> The Slashdot article had a link to the Microsoft implementation; the
K> complaint about it is that they are releasing a free license to implement,
K> which can be revoked at any time.


For the other side of the coin, regarding SPF.. we have...



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wm dropping keypresses since moving to xorg (strange)

[epilogue]

hello x11, questions,

i have some reservations about sending this in, because it sounds a bit
weird, but i've jumped through all the usual self-serve hoops and i'm about
at my wits end.

since switching to xorg, when i alt+tab to a window with my wm of choice
(fluxbox-devel), the 1st keypress is always dropped in the new window,
regardless of whether that window is a *term, mail client, browser, ...

say i alt+tab to an xterm.  for 'man' to appear on the command line, i must
type 'mman' or 'ccd' for 'cd'.

the window only drops that 1st key.  if i alt+tab away and come back, it
will again drop only the 1st key.


here is what i know:

1) it doesn't happen if i use the mouse.
2) this problem was not apparent when i tested for it with icewm or xfce4.
3) fluxbox used to play very nicely with xfree.


here is what i've tried:

1) google, fbsd and xorg mailing lists.
2) contacted the fluxbox developers over irc.  several are running xorg
and fluxbox on linux without the problems i'm seeing.(?!)
3) rebuilt xorg then fluxbox-devel.  removed .fluxbox to ensure that the
default settings would load.
4) played with xorg.conf (used old xfree.conf, built a new xorg.conf,
and changed various settings withing xorg.conf)
5) attempted to pinpoint the issue via xev, but failed miserably.


it smells like some sort of 'focus' problem to me.  any suggestions would
be very much appreciated.

hoping that i'm not alone here.


thanks,
epi


p.s. a little additional info for any of you who know a bit about fluxbox
settings.  the problem seems only to occur with those keybindings
(like alt+tab) which are mapped to 'NextWindow' or 'NextWindow 1' but _not_
with 'NextTab'.  naturally, the same holds true for the shift+foo combos
which translate to 'Previous'.
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NFS Problem

[V.Nair]

Hello all,
 I am running FreeBSD 5.2.1 and am having problems with NFS. I have an NFS 
server that is also running 5.2.1. The client is able to mount the NFS 
export and I am able to get a directory listing. However, I am unable to 
write to the NFS mount from the client, even as root.  This is what my 
relevant /etc/fstab line looks like:

taffy:/media/media  nfs rw  0   0
Any suggestion would be appreciated.
VN
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Re: Mozilla Thunderbird on FreebSD

[Jonathan Chen]

On Mon, Jul 26, 2004 at 04:30:17AM +, 'Andy' wrote:
> Could you please email me the direct URL link on how to install or how 
> to install these ports for Thunderbird on FreeBSD? I would appreciate it.

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/ports.html

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Re: Are you truly a M$ desktop alternative?

[Matt Navarre]

On Sunday 25 July 2004 11:42, Vulpes Velox wrote:
> > As mentioned before, FreeBSD is NOT Linux. Keep that in mind.
> >
> > > I've flipped through your FAQ's and over forums but result in no
> > > answer for Active Directory 2K3 and Exchange 2K3 server client
> > > connectivity, integration and functionality? Note that we have not
> > > moved to these product versions yet. Hence this email.
> >
> > KDE's Kmail can connect to Exchange servers, I believe. As for
> > logging into active directory ... That doesn't exist AFAIK. Perhaps
> > there are programs that allow such things, but I wouldn't count on
> > that. Windows is an excellent OS for integration with Active
> > Directory.
>
> AFAIK sylpheed-claws can too... IIRC Exchange is imap... or
> something...

Ximian just open-sourced their Connector plug-in for Evolution. Works great 
for email at least, I never really needed any of the other bells, whistles, 
chrome or gewgaws that MS put in Outlook, so I don't know how well it handles 
things like calendars and whatnot. But it's a place to start.

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Re: problem installing freebsd

[Andrew L. Gould]

On Monday 26 July 2004 10:29 am, Sikander Abbasi wrote:
> Dear Sir,
>
> I am new to freebsd i am having problem installing
> freebsd, when i tried to install it say max one fat
> partition,
>
> i have 2 fat primary partition and keep 5 gd 1
> partition for installing freebsd.
>
> plz help me in this
>
> with regards
>
> sikander Abbasi

It sounds as though you're using fdisk and it's telling you that you can 
only have one "active" primary partition.

Where are you getting the message?  Are you using the FreeBSD 
installation CDROM?  Or are you working with the partition table in 
another program such as fdisk?

Let us know so that we can provide better assistance.

Andrew Gould
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RE: [SPAM] freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 70, Issue 5

[Ara]

Can you give more info, like what operating systems are you ruining on
your hard drive and i assume you have 2 primary fat partitions right?
so yo u have to have access to make a third one
one thing you have too keep in mind is when it asks to install FreeBSD
boot manager, say yes, sorry can't help more as i need more info

Message: 34
Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2004 08:29:14 -0700 (PDT)
From: Sikander Abbasi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: problem installing freebsd
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

Dear Sir,

I am new to freebsd i am having problem installing
freebsd, when i tried to install it say max one fat
partition,

i have 2 fat primary partition and keep 5 gd 1
partition for installing freebsd.


plz help me in this

with regards

sikander Abbasi


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Re: US BC001

[Dan Nelson]

In the last episode (Jul 27), FreeBSD Daemon said:
> I got a low end network card (chip: Surecom BC001). Plugged into a PCI
> slot it is not recognized by FreeBSD 4.10.
> I googled and found that the producer gives a RealTek 8139 driver to it
> (http://www.lantech.com.tw/eng/products/index.php?mode=view&id=12&PHPSES
> SID=e828906aae1ab4f3f63a0069b5e9eed8), but as mentioned it does not show
> up as rl.
> Can someone help me?

It might just be using a PCI ID that the rl driver doesn't know about. 
Run "pciconf -lv", find your card, and note the chip= value.  The first
4 digits are the device ID, and the last 4 are the vendor ID. Add them
to /sys/pci/if_rlreg.h (search for VENDORID) and to /sys/pci/if_rl.c
(search for rl_devs), rebuild your kernel, and reboot.  If it works,
submit a pr with the info so it can be added to the next release.

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Re: Procmail port 3.22 and FreeBSD 5.2.1

[Paul R Culmo]

On Mon, 26 Jul 2004, Warren Block wrote:

> > You need to create a "~/.forward" file with the following contents:
> >
> >"|/usr/local/bin/procmail"
> 
> That's not needed when sendmail uses procmail directly.  My 4.10 system 
> just has FEATURE(local_procmail) in /etc/mail/hostname.mc.
> 

Waren that is what I have been reading online many sites and FAQ that you 
don't need the .forward file but I thanked Jonathan for his input as I 
appreciate any input.  I've  tried the .forward file but wait.. this just 
in..

I found a few things ,  The kernel had IPV6 compiled in which I don't 
need, at the moment. Perhaps in another project I'll try that.
I commented it out in my config and recompiled..installed and bounced the 
box.

Still No worke...

I found a entry in my hostname.mc that read 

Feature(local_lmtp)   Commented out..

Performed the typical under /etc/mail

make all install restart

Working like a champion now.. so perhaps between the IPV6 components in 
the Knrl and my fixing the .mc file it's workig like it should.  

So for those other newbies,  comment out any FEATURE(local..) other than 
FEATURE(local_procmail) and be sure that 

MAILER(procmail) comes first in the  .mc file before anything else.

Thanks to you and Jonathan once again for your input!  :)

-
Paul R Culmo






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Re: Procmail port 3.22 and FreeBSD 5.2.1

[Jonathan Chen]

On Mon, Jul 26, 2004 at 09:59:31PM -0400, Paul R Culmo wrote:
> On Tue, 27 Jul 2004, Jonathan Chen wrote:
> 
> > You need to create a "~/.forward" file with the following contents:
> > 
> > "|/usr/local/bin/procmail"
> 
> Thanks for the reply  :)  but I tried creating the .forward file with 
> these contents and also the
> 
> "| exec /usr/local/bin/procmail exit 75"  

This will definitely *not* work. Why don't your try what I've given
you? Include the quotes in the file as well.
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US BC001

[FreeBSD Daemon]

Dear list

I got a low end network card (chip: Surecom BC001). Plugged into a PCI
slot it is not recognized by FreeBSD 4.10.
I googled and found that the producer gives a RealTek 8139 driver to it
(http://www.lantech.com.tw/eng/products/index.php?mode=view&id=12&PHPSES
SID=e828906aae1ab4f3f63a0069b5e9eed8), but as mentioned it does not show
up as rl.
Can someone help me?

TIA

zheyu

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Re: Procmail port 3.22 and FreeBSD 5.2.1

[Paul R Culmo]

On Tue, 27 Jul 2004, Jonathan Chen wrote:

> You need to create a "~/.forward" file with the following contents:
> 
> "|/usr/local/bin/procmail"

Thanks for the reply  :)  but I tried creating the .forward file with 
these contents and also the

"| exec /usr/local/bin/procmail exit 75"  

Which I read in a website during my searches,  To no avail this did not 
work either,this is a weird one..for sure.  However, I am loving this 
challenge. I do really like FreeBSD very much.  It's MEGA fast.

Thanks again.


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Re: FreeBSD and WinNT

[Frank Knobbe]

On Mon, 2004-07-19 at 09:27, Fractal wrote:
> I have a FreeBSD 4.8 and I need to install on the same machine
> WindowsNT-like operating system. I tried to do this and installed it.
> But after recovering of BSD bootstrap loader using sysinstall I found
> that I cannot load Windows. Namely, there was two question signs
> ('??') in the second string of BSD loader menu (the first was
> 'FreeBSD') and after selecting it by F3 my computer rebooted. Windows
> should run on NTFS partition, not FAT. Can I do something and if yes,
> what?

I'm one of those guys that prefers to boot into the Windows boot
manager. From there I can start Win2000 (used solely for games these
days) and FreeBSD. 

So if you were to install BSD first, then Windows, and not recover your
bootsector, you would boot into Windows like I do. My boot.ini looks
like this:

[boot loader]
timeout=10
default=c:\bootsect.bsd
[operating systems]
c:\bootsect.bsd=" FreeBSD "
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(2)\WINNT=" Windows 2000 Professional
Native Mode " /fastdetect


bootsect.bsd is nothing else than a copy of /boot/boot1 from BSD. So
from the Windows boot menu, I choose FreeBSD (or wait) and it boots BSD.

Cheers,
Frank




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Re: wrong Xircom card??

[Gary Kline]

On Mon, Jul 26, 2004 at 04:05:18PM -0700, Gary Kline wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 26, 2004 at 04:56:00PM -0500, Hauan, David wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Gary Kline [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Sent: Monday, July 26, 2004 1:46 PM
> > > To: Wojciech Puchar
> > > Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List
> > > Subject: Re: wrong Xircom card??
> > > 
> > > 
> > > On Mon, Jul 26, 2004 at 10:16:58PM +0200, Wojciech Puchar wrote:
> > > > >   I'm trying a net/ftp install of 4.8 on my Thinkpad.  The
> > > > >   laptop didn't come with a builtin NIC so I bought a
> > > > >   Xircom 10/100 card.  (I'm using the IBM UBS to CAT5 connector.)
> > > > >   The floppy install puts up /stand/sysinstall nicely, but when
> > > > >   I goto the network sections I eventually see only SLIP or PPP
> > > > >   as options.
> > > > >
> > > > install kernel just didn't load this driver.
> > > > 
> > > > i'm not sure now, but when booting in boot menu there is option for
> > > > booting with PCMCIA support, but it's not default choice
> > > 
> > > 
> > >   there was one screen that mentioned the cards.  gave 4
> > >   address ranges for the card; i toook the default of 0x.
> > > 
> > >   anybody else on-list have the xircom card working?  i'd
> > >   be only too pleased if i'm missing some magic incantation
> > >   rather than having  bought the wrong card...
> > > 
> > >   thanks, and if anyone else has insights, i'd be much obliged
> > >   to hear!
> > > 
> > >   gary
> > Do as above and select irq 3 from the
> > next screen.  That worked for my wireless
> > card.
> > 
> 
>   will try, thanks.  i believe i chose irq 11.  
> 

To reply to my last post: no joy.  I tried no kernel config,
just selected  irq3 and the Default card addr of 0x.
The installation floppies recognized the card and said it
was initializing things, but same results:  I would up
with only slip and ppp choices.

I tried the full-screen intall option next.  Xircon ("xe")
was't among the drivers in the Network list.  Is there a 
way of installing the xe driver from floppy?   

Or... ?

thanks,

gary


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R/W mount of / denied

[Lutz Petersen]

After a system crash (e.g. a power failure), the terminal-less FreeBSD
5.2.1-RELEASE I run does not boot up properly any more. Here is an
excerpt from /var/log/messages:
Jul 25 20:18:04 server kernel: Mounting root from ufs:/dev/ad0s1a
Jul 25 20:18:04 server kernel: WARNING: / was not properly dismounted
Jul 25 20:18:04 server kernel: WARNING: R/W mount of / denied.
Filesystem is not clean - run fsck
Jul 25 20:18:04 server kernel: WARNING: R/W mount of / denied.
Filesystem is not clean - run fsck
Jul 25 20:18:04 server kernel: WARNING: /home was not properly dismounted
Jul 25 20:18:04 server kernel: WARNING: /tmp was not properly dismounted
Jul 25 20:18:04 server kernel: WARNING: /usr was not properly dismounted
Jul 25 20:18:04 server kernel: WARNING: /var was not properly dismounted
As a result, BIND does not start up any more, which leaves my FreeBSD
box in an unusable state (no internet connection, no network connections
that use DNS). I did not experience this behaviour with 4-STABLE. What's
wrong here?
The other day I read about a misconfiguration of /etc/fstab (wrong
fs_passno), which prevented FreeBSD from doing the usual consistency
checking at startup time. My fstab is looking fine however.
Any help is greatly appreciated,
Lutz
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Re: How can I recover /usr

[Jerry McAllister]

> 
> Hi,
> 
> 1. How can I recover /usr, when I boot the system it goes to single user and 
> ask me to run fsck manually but the /usr has a bad block. The machine is a 
> server for diskless machines. 

Well, hopefully you have been making backups.
Put another disk in and boot to single user.  fdisk, disklabel
and newfs space for /usr and restore /usr from backups.   Then
fix /etc/fstab to mount the new space as /usr instead of the
old bad space.

Or you may want to completely replace the disk by making file 
systems on the new disk for everything on the old one and doing
a dump/restore of the still good file systems as well as 
the restore of a /usr from backup.   This is a good idea because
typically if you get a bad block on one filesystem it is a
sign that the disk is on its last legs.   There are built in
fail-over sectors on modern disks and if you see a bad sector
it likely means that it has already used up all the fail-over
sectors.   So, time to replace it, before things really crap out.

If you don't have backups (tsk tsk) then you can try figuring out
a way to direct copy every file except the one with the bad sector
to some new space and then figure out how to recreate the file
that crosses the bad sector.  But, that will take some doing.
If the bad sector is the superblock, you might be able to figure
out how to use an alternate superblock just long enough to copy
files off the disk, but not to keep running.  I have read about
that but never tried it so someone else would have to coach you
on that sort of thing.

Good luck,

jerry

> 
> Regards
> Livhu  
> 
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Re: Procmail port 3.22 and FreeBSD 5.2.1

[Warren Block]

On Tue, 27 Jul 2004, Jonathan Chen wrote:
On Mon, Jul 26, 2004 at 07:20:24AM -0400, Paul R Culmo wrote:
Greetings,
[...]
I've searched high and low and found some really good docs, on how to do
it to get it working.  Yes I've compiled and installed the port, that's
not a problem.  Integrating into Sendmail is the problem,  but from pine
if I
 | /usr/local/bin/procmail it will work.
Has anyone had any trouble with procmail on FBSD 5.2.1 or any version of
FBSD ?
You need to create a "~/.forward" file with the following contents:
   "|/usr/local/bin/procmail"
That's not needed when sendmail uses procmail directly.  My 4.10 system 
just has FEATURE(local_procmail) in /etc/mail/hostname.mc.

-Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA
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Re: Changing cards in a reader (next step??)

[hoe-waa]

From: David Kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Monday, July 26, 2004 7:47 am


> 
> On Jul 26, 2004, at 12:26 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> > I have followed all suggestions and responded with the output of 
> my 
> > attemps. The problem remains unresolved. I have also requested that
> > if anyone has this working *properly* to respond but no one did.
> 
> Why not install /usr/ports/emulators/mtools/ and configure "O:" 
> drive 
> ("O" for Olympus) as /dev/da2s1 ?
> 
Aloha and thanks for responding. I hadn't tried mtools so I did as you
reccommended. The results were less than satisfactory. The problem is
when I am changing to a different size card. 

I start with a 128MB SmartMedia card in the reader.

hp# mdir O:/dcim/100olymp
 Volume in drive O has no label
Directory for O:/dcim/100olymp

. 05-30-2004  15:59
..05-30-2004  15:59
p6050002 jpg672166 06-05-2004   7:19
p6050003 jpg677171 06-05-2004   7:19
p6050004 jpg684658 06-05-2004   7:23
p6050005 jpg664210 06-05-2004   7:23
p6050006 jpg663849 06-05-2004   7:24
p6050009 jpg689533 06-05-2004   7:37
p6050010 jpg697084 06-05-2004   7:37
p6050011 jpg691391 06-05-2004   7:59
p6050012 jpg695390 06-05-2004   7:59
p1010074 jpg680523 01-01-2000   0:00
   12 files   6 815 975 bytes
124 059 648 bytes free

Then I remove it and place a 8MB SM card in the reader.

hp# mdir O:/dcim/100olymp
init O: non DOS media
Cannot initialize 'O:'

If I unplug and replug the USB cable

hp# mdir O:/dcim/100olymp
 Volume in drive O has no label
Directory for O:/dcim/100olymp

. 06-26-2004  14:24
..06-26-2004  14:24
p7120001 jpg694158 07-12-2004  18:27
3 files 694 158 bytes
  7 446 528 bytes free

The display is different using mtools but the results are the
same.

Thanks again for the help. I hope you have another idea or two.

Robert

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problem installing freebsd

[Sikander Abbasi]

Dear Sir,

I am new to freebsd i am having problem installing
freebsd, when i tried to install it say max one fat
partition,

i have 2 fat primary partition and keep 5 gd 1
partition for installing freebsd.


plz help me in this

with regards

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Re: Procmail port 3.22 and FreeBSD 5.2.1

[Jonathan Chen]

On Mon, Jul 26, 2004 at 07:20:24AM -0400, Paul R Culmo wrote:
> Greetings,

[...]
> I've searched high and low and found some really good docs, on how to do 
> it to get it working.  Yes I've compiled and installed the port, that's 
> not a problem.  Integrating into Sendmail is the problem,  but from pine 
> if I
> 
>  | /usr/local/bin/procmail it will work.  
> 
> Has anyone had any trouble with procmail on FBSD 5.2.1 or any version of 
> FBSD ?

You need to create a "~/.forward" file with the following contents:

"|/usr/local/bin/procmail"

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Re: wrong Xircom card??

[Gary Kline]

On Mon, Jul 26, 2004 at 04:56:00PM -0500, Hauan, David wrote:
> 
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Gary Kline [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Monday, July 26, 2004 1:46 PM
> > To: Wojciech Puchar
> > Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List
> > Subject: Re: wrong Xircom card??
> > 
> > 
> > On Mon, Jul 26, 2004 at 10:16:58PM +0200, Wojciech Puchar wrote:
> > > > I'm trying a net/ftp install of 4.8 on my Thinkpad.  The
> > > > laptop didn't come with a builtin NIC so I bought a
> > > > Xircom 10/100 card.  (I'm using the IBM UBS to CAT5 connector.)
> > > > The floppy install puts up /stand/sysinstall nicely, but when
> > > > I goto the network sections I eventually see only SLIP or PPP
> > > > as options.
> > > >
> > > install kernel just didn't load this driver.
> > > 
> > > i'm not sure now, but when booting in boot menu there is option for
> > > booting with PCMCIA support, but it's not default choice
> > 
> > 
> > there was one screen that mentioned the cards.  gave 4
> > address ranges for the card; i toook the default of 0x.
> > 
> > anybody else on-list have the xircom card working?  i'd
> > be only too pleased if i'm missing some magic incantation
> > rather than having  bought the wrong card...
> > 
> > thanks, and if anyone else has insights, i'd be much obliged
> > to hear!
> > 
> > gary
> Do as above and select irq 3 from the
> next screen.  That worked for my wireless
> card.
> 

will try, thanks.  i believe i chose irq 11.  

gary

> 

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Re: [OT]Re: AMD64 support: FreeBSD v.s. Gentoo

[Radek Kozlowski]

On Mon, Jul 26, 2004 at 11:28:02PM +0200, Wojciech Puchar wrote:
> > > quite sharper then it was with XFree86.
> >
> > Since some days, -current defaults to X.org. Users of other FreeBSD version
> > can update their ports and have a look at /usr/ports/UPDATING howto
> > switch from XFree to X.org
> >
> i'm of of topic in X.org and XFree - what's the difference?
> 
> any URL?
> 
> thanks

Dude, search the mailing lists or http://justfuckinggoogleit.com/. Is
this really so difficult?

-Radek
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Re: OSS

[Eric F Crist]

On Monday 26 July 2004 05:09 pm, Miguel Cardenas wrote:
> Hello...
>
> Anybody has installed OSS on FreeBSD 5.2.1? Am trying the system inside a
> VMWare machine and had troubles installing OSS... I did it once, but
> reinstalled the system and did not work again... it gets installed fine
> (OSS) but when running 'soundon' it says there was a problem...
>
> The OSS module is loaded in memory, but simply does not work...
>
> When installing the package it says the following error message:
>
> /dev/mixer0: No such file or directory
>
> What can I do? how can I create /dev/mixer? devices?
>
> Thanks!!

This should be automatically created by devfs.  I would make certain that the 
proper device entry is installed in your kernel config.  For my system, I 
need to add the following line to my kernel config file:

device  pcm

I hope this helps.

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OSS

[Miguel Cardenas]

Hello...

Anybody has installed OSS on FreeBSD 5.2.1? Am trying the system inside a 
VMWare machine and had troubles installing OSS... I did it once, but 
reinstalled the system and did not work again... it gets installed fine (OSS) 
but when running 'soundon' it says there was a problem...

The OSS module is loaded in memory, but simply does not work...

When installing the package it says the following error message:

/dev/mixer0: No such file or directory

What can I do? how can I create /dev/mixer? devices?

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RE: wrong Xircom card??

[Hauan, David]

> -Original Message-
> From: Gary Kline [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, July 26, 2004 1:46 PM
> To: Wojciech Puchar
> Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List
> Subject: Re: wrong Xircom card??
> 
> 
> On Mon, Jul 26, 2004 at 10:16:58PM +0200, Wojciech Puchar wrote:
> > >   I'm trying a net/ftp install of 4.8 on my Thinkpad.  The
> > >   laptop didn't come with a builtin NIC so I bought a
> > >   Xircom 10/100 card.  (I'm using the IBM UBS to CAT5 connector.)
> > >   The floppy install puts up /stand/sysinstall nicely, but when
> > >   I goto the network sections I eventually see only SLIP or PPP
> > >   as options.
> > >
> > install kernel just didn't load this driver.
> > 
> > i'm not sure now, but when booting in boot menu there is option for
> > booting with PCMCIA support, but it's not default choice
> 
> 
>   there was one screen that mentioned the cards.  gave 4
>   address ranges for the card; i toook the default of 0x.
> 
>   anybody else on-list have the xircom card working?  i'd
>   be only too pleased if i'm missing some magic incantation
>   rather than having  bought the wrong card...
> 
>   thanks, and if anyone else has insights, i'd be much obliged
>   to hear!
> 
>   gary
Do as above and select irq 3 from the
next screen.  That worked for my wireless
card.

dave
 
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Re: f-prot on 5.2.1

[J.D. Bronson]

At 04:43 PM 7/26/2004, you wrote:
Hello,
Has anyone got f-prot via ports to install on 5.2.1? I'm getting an
error when it atempts to download f-prot-sig and another file presumably the
definitions.
Any help appreciated.
Dave.
See my post from over the weekend?
I downloaded the free version from f-prot directly.
it installs
it updates
it wont run.
Still no answer from f-prot
- JDB 

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f-prot on 5.2.1

[dave]

Hello,
Has anyone got f-prot via ports to install on 5.2.1? I'm getting an
error when it atempts to download f-prot-sig and another file presumably the
definitions.
Any help appreciated.
Dave.

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Re: [OT]Re: AMD64 support: FreeBSD v.s. Gentoo

[Wojciech Puchar]

> > quite sharper then it was with XFree86.
>
> Since some days, -current defaults to X.org. Users of other FreeBSD version
> can update their ports and have a look at /usr/ports/UPDATING howto
> switch from XFree to X.org
>
i'm of of topic in X.org and XFree - what's the difference?

any URL?

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Re: [OT]Re: AMD64 support: FreeBSD v.s. Gentoo

[Simon Barner]

> One interesting point for desktop users is that Gentoo automatically compiles 
> X.org as a dependency of KDE rather then XFree86. And I must say, my TFT is 
> quite sharper then it was with XFree86.

Since some days, -current defaults to X.org. Users of other FreeBSD version
can update their ports and have a look at /usr/ports/UPDATING howto
switch from XFree to X.org

Simon


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[Half OT]Re: AMD64 support: FreeBSD v.s. Gentoo

[Jorn Argelo]

On Monday 26 July 2004 20:41, jam man wrote:
> --- Björn_Lindström <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Wojciech Puchar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > >> Does Gentoo or FreeBSD have better support for
> >
> > the
> >
> > >> AMD64 architecture at this point?
> > >
> > > what is gentoo?
> > >
> > > is it some new OS or linux distro?
> >
> > It's a Linux distribution, so I assume the question
> > was meant to be:
> >
> > "Does Linux or FreeBSD for the AMD64 architecture at
> > this point?"
>
> It doesn't really matter...yes gentoo is a linux
> distro. and its the only linux distro I would consider
> with the AMD64 architecture. I was looking to see if
> anyone here has used (or has knowledge of) both AMD64
> OSes' support and functionality for x86-64
> applications.

As a matter of fact, I just got Gentoo up and running next to my Windows 
partition on my AMD64. There isn't much difference between the two. At least, 
when building everything from scratch. I got no experience with packages or 
anything. Gentoo is just a tad harder to get up and running then FreeBSD is, 
but shouldn't be too much of a problem if you follow the documentation 
provided at Gentoo's site. 

One interesting point for desktop users is that Gentoo automatically compiles 
X.org as a dependency of KDE rather then XFree86. And I must say, my TFT is 
quite sharper then it was with XFree86. Further some minor things are added 
to the standard KDE setup, but they aren't worth mentioning. One thing I am 
missing is that you have an overview of what you can compile into KDE. Gentoo 
just compiles the base KDE with a few extras and further you'll have to 
continue to compile the other KDE things from the portage (same thing as the 
ports-tree)

But, on-topic, it's still a matter of preferences and what you're experienced 
with. There are no complete new features or anything. It's still just FreeBSD 
or Gentoo, but the OS just talks 64-bit rather then 32-bit. As for the main 
question, Gentoo or Mandrake or whatever distribution is all the same when 
looking at AMD64 support and performance, as long as you're using the same 
kernel.

Cheers,

Jorn
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restarting services after portupgrade

[dave]

Hello,
Does anyone have a pkgtools.conf file that restarts updated services?
I'm trying to get this going, so i don't have to restart all of them
manually, wanting the update process to run as automated as possible via a
cron script.
Thanks.
Dave.

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snmp port application

[ask]

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Hi all

I have this problem when complied zebra to support snmp

===>  ucd-snmp-4.2.6_3 conflicts with installed package(s): 
  net-snmp-5.1.1_1
  They install files into the same place.
  Please remove them first with pkg_delete(1).

I checked the port application in the freebsd site and got

This is Net-SNMP (previously known as "ucd-snmp").

It should be same one "right"?

How can I compile the zebra without an error

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Stuck in a Loop installing PHP

[Lance Earl]

I am new to FREEBSD and am tring to set up a web server to replace my
redhat box. I installed 4.8 by selecting the Developer method and
everything installed without a hitch. I then upgraded the ports database
using cvsup, again, no problems. I then installed Apache v2 from a port,
no problems. It was while installing mod_php v5 that things got out of
wack. I started the install from a port around 6:00pm and it ran all
night. The next morning I was surprized to see that it was still working.
It was a Saturday so I left it alone to do its thing. Saturday evening it
was still working. It appeared to be stuck in a loop as it would work for
a while and then pause on the same line. By late saturday night, I decided
that something was broken and shut it down.

Any help will be greatly appreciated.


Lance Earl
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snmp port application

[Robert Huff]

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>  How can I compile the zebra without an error

"make -DDISABLE_CONFLICTS install"


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Re: wrong Xircom card??

[Gary Kline]

On Mon, Jul 26, 2004 at 10:16:58PM +0200, Wojciech Puchar wrote:
> > I'm trying a net/ftp install of 4.8 on my Thinkpad.  The
> > laptop didn't come with a builtin NIC so I bought a
> > Xircom 10/100 card.  (I'm using the IBM UBS to CAT5 connector.)
> > The floppy install puts up /stand/sysinstall nicely, but when
> > I goto the network sections I eventually see only SLIP or PPP
> > as options.
> >
> install kernel just didn't load this driver.
> 
> i'm not sure now, but when booting in boot menu there is option for
> booting with PCMCIA support, but it's not default choice


there was one screen that mentioned the cards.  gave 4
address ranges for the card; i toook the default of 0x.

anybody else on-list have the xircom card working?  i'd
be only too pleased if i'm missing some magic incantation
rather than having  bought the wrong card...

thanks, and if anyone else has insights, i'd be much obliged
to hear!

gary

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snmp port application

[ask]

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Hi all

I have this problem when complied zebra to support snmp

===>  ucd-snmp-4.2.6_3 conflicts with installed package(s): 
  net-snmp-5.1.1_1
  They install files into the same place.
  Please remove them first with pkg_delete(1).

I checked the port application in the freebsd site and got

This is Net-SNMP (previously known as "ucd-snmp").

It should be same one "right"?

How can I compile the zebra without an error

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Re: wrong Xircom card??

[Wojciech Puchar]

>   I'm trying a net/ftp install of 4.8 on my Thinkpad.  The
>   laptop didn't come with a builtin NIC so I bought a
>   Xircom 10/100 card.  (I'm using the IBM UBS to CAT5 connector.)
>   The floppy install puts up /stand/sysinstall nicely, but when
>   I goto the network sections I eventually see only SLIP or PPP
>   as options.
>
install kernel just didn't load this driver.

i'm not sure now, but when booting in boot menu there is option for
booting with PCMCIA support, but it's not default choice
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Re: AMD64 support: FreeBSD v.s. Gentoo

[Wojciech Puchar]

> > "Does Linux or FreeBSD for the AMD64 architecture at
> > this point?"
>
> It doesn't really matter...yes gentoo is a linux
> distro. and its the only linux distro I would consider
> with the AMD64 architecture. I was looking to see if

one moment. distribution is distribution, linux is a kernel. CPU support
isn't the distribution feature. they just put everything in one CD/DVD
with some installer.

> anyone here has used (or has knowledge of) both AMD64
> OSes' support and functionality for x86-64
> applications.

i only used NetBSD and it has full support of AMD64 - i mean 64-bit mode
both for kernel and userspace, no emulation needed.
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Re: jabber webmin config - CANCEL

[Jeanne]

I believe that webmin currently doesn't support jabber 1.4.3. No big deal, it wasn't 
critical.

Cheers,

Jeanne

On Mon, 26 Jul 2004 11:11:23 -0400
Jeanne Schock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I have a working jabber 1.4.3 install on FreeBSD 4.8 and I would like to provide my 
> office with a GUI. I'm not sure what webmin wants me to do with regards to a 
> jabber.xml file, jabber.sh and the jabber daemon. I start jabber with the standard 
> jabberd.sh script. Webmin is asking for the "path to jabber server program" 
> (jabber_daemon). The patch-jabber.xml file in the jabberport/files/ dir states 
> "Currently on FreeBSD jabberd is started with the -h option from 
> /path/rc.d/jabber.sh. You'll need to modify it.." I'm not clear on what webmin 
> needs. Any help would be much appreciated. 
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Jeanne
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modules dynamically loaded (doubt)

[Cleyton Agapito]

Hi all,


I have same modules (fdc.ko, speaker.ko, snd_cmi.ko, etc...) that i
removed
from kernel core (5.2-RL) to be dynamically loaded when need. looks that
device
nodes are created in boot stage, because they aren´t there when i load
module after,
then i must use loader.conf and kldunload one by one (i didn´t find a
option to unload
all unused modules). the devfs wouldn´t load the proper module like it
do with cd9660.ko?
or unload module if idle? what i´m doing wrong?

kind regards.
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compile + distfile

[HYVERNAT Philippe]

Hello, 

I  run on freebsd 4.10 and i want to install Java, but cos to the
licence restriction i must download it and place into
/usr/ports//distfiles

I move it into this directory, but when i compile again, the make file
doesn't find it in /usr/ports/distfiles it's the same spelling.

It is the same thing with relaplayer 8 

Could you help me please ? 

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wrong Xircom card??

[Gary Kline]

I'm trying a net/ftp install of 4.8 on my Thinkpad.  The
laptop didn't come with a builtin NIC so I bought a 
Xircom 10/100 card.  (I'm using the IBM UBS to CAT5 connector.)
The floppy install puts up /stand/sysinstall nicely, but when
I goto the network sections I eventually see only SLIP or PPP
as options.  

Setting up the options screen and setting DHCP to "YES" makes
no difference.  According to the FreeBSD laptop web pages
Xircom ought to work.  As far as I can get is wriding up 
with eithr a slattach graphic or one for ppp.  Since DHCP is
working and since my cabling is okay, I'm at adead end.

Suggestions?

Thanks for any clues!

gary

PS: I did try my old 5.2 CD install, but it trapped and died.
(??)

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Re: Does FreeBSD need to be on a Primary Partition?

[Erik Trulsson]

On Mon, Jul 26, 2004 at 09:48:59PM +0300, Ion-Mihai Tetcu wrote:
> On Mon, 26 Jul 2004 11:16:55 -0700
> Joe Laws <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > Since I have about 10 partitions (3primary, 7 extended), I was
> > wondering if BSD needs a root partition on one of the primary
> > partitions.  I have heard this is the case in some of the BSD's.
> 
> Yes. What you call "primary partition" in the BSD world is called slice

True, although I am not quite certain that FreeBSD actually must be
booted from a primary partition. I think it depends on the bootmanager.
I believe the default bootmanager does require a primary partition
though, and the standard installation program probably also requires
that so a primary partition is recommended.

> and what you call "extended partitions" are called partiotions.

Not quite true.  Extended partitions are also called slices in BSD.
BSD-partitions do not really have a counterpart in the DOS/Windows
world.

> 
> So for ad0s1a is:
> ad0 = ide disk 0 (primary master)
> s1 = first slice
> a = first partition on the first slice (usually the / also called "root" partition)
> 
> http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/install.html
> will give you more details
> 
> 
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Re: Whats the fastest Windows 2000 like Window Manager ??

[Jud]

On Mon, 26 Jul 2004 19:28:16 +0200, "Mark Weinem"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> On Mon, 26 Jul 2004, Jud wrote:
> 
> > The "leanest" desktop environment for Linux/Unix/FreeBSD is XFCE4.
> 
> I don't think so; look here:
> 
>   http://www.xwinman.org/otherdesktops.html

Oops, right you are.  My fault for thinking of a bunch of qualifiers
(nice-looking, functional, easily available in ports, that I am familiar
with) and failing to include any of these qualifiers in what I wrote.

Thanks for bringing up the xwinman site in this thread - it's a nice
resource that I used extensively as a newbie.

Jud
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Re: Does FreeBSD need to be on a Primary Partition?

[Ion-Mihai Tetcu]

On Mon, 26 Jul 2004 11:16:55 -0700
Joe Laws <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Since I have about 10 partitions (3primary, 7 extended), I was
> wondering if BSD needs a root partition on one of the primary
> partitions.  I have heard this is the case in some of the BSD's.

Yes. What you call "primary partition" in the BSD world is called slice
and what you call "extended partitions" are called partiotions.

So for ad0s1a is:
ad0 = ide disk 0 (primary master)
s1 = first slice
a = first partition on the first slice (usually the / also called "root" partition)

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/install.html
will give you more details


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Re: AMD64 support: FreeBSD v.s. Gentoo

[jam man]

--- Björn_Lindström <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Wojciech Puchar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
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> >> Does Gentoo or FreeBSD have better support for
> the
> >> AMD64 architecture at this point?
> > what is gentoo?
> >
> > is it some new OS or linux distro?
> 
> It's a Linux distribution, so I assume the question
> was meant to be:
> 
> "Does Linux or FreeBSD for the AMD64 architecture at
> this point?"

It doesn't really matter...yes gentoo is a linux
distro. and its the only linux distro I would consider
with the AMD64 architecture. I was looking to see if
anyone here has used (or has knowledge of) both AMD64
OSes' support and functionality for x86-64
applications.

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Re: Gnome2 port on AMD64 5.2.1

[Kent Stewart]

On Monday 26 July 2004 11:20 am, Richard W Williams wrote:
> I am trying to build the Gnome2 port but I'm stuck trying to fetch
> Hermes-1.3.3.tar.bz2 from the default www.clanlib.org or from
> ftp.freebsd.org.  Neither source will respond.
>

http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/sorcerer/sources/Hermes/1.3.3/

I did a web search and found that copy. The md5 agrees with what is in 
the Hermes distinfo.

Kent

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Gnome2 port on AMD64 5.2.1

[Richard W Williams]

I am trying to build the Gnome2 port but I'm stuck trying to fetch 
Hermes-1.3.3.tar.bz2 from the default www.clanlib.org or from 
ftp.freebsd.org.  Neither source will respond.

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Does FreeBSD need to be on a Primary Partition?

[Joe Laws]

Since I have about 10 partitions (3primary, 7 extended), I was
wondering if BSD needs a root partition on one of the primary
partitions.  I have heard this is the case in some of the BSD's.

-Joe
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Re: Odd /etc/hosts entry

[Clint Olsen]

On Jul 26, Bill Moran wrote:
> That's an IPv6 entry.
> 
> You may want to recompile your kernel without IPv6 support while you're at
> it.  If you don't understand IPv6, removing support from the kernel can
> head off problems before they happen.

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Re: Odd /etc/hosts entry

[User LAFFER1]

Its for ip6.
On Mon, 26 Jul 2004, Clint Olsen wrote:
So, I just debugged a majorly annoying problem doing port forwarding with
SSH.  Thanks to some creative Googling, I realized I had a weird entry in
my hosts file.  What does this "::1" entry mean?
#::1localhost localhost.my.domain
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Re: Odd /etc/hosts entry

[Steve Bertrand]

> So, I just debugged a majorly annoying problem doing port forwarding with
> SSH.  Thanks to some creative Googling, I realized I had a weird entry in
> my hosts file.  What does this "::1" entry mean?
>
> #::1  localhost localhost.my.domain

It's an entry for IPv6, and it is commented out (not used).

::1 is the IP for localhost with IPv6, exactly the same as 127.0.0.1 is
for v4.

Steve

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Re: Odd /etc/hosts entry

[Bill Moran]

Clint Olsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> So, I just debugged a majorly annoying problem doing port forwarding with
> SSH.  Thanks to some creative Googling, I realized I had a weird entry in
> my hosts file.  What does this "::1" entry mean?
> 
> #::1  localhost localhost.my.domain

That's an IPv6 entry.

You may want to recompile your kernel without IPv6 support while you're at
it.  If you don't understand IPv6, removing support from the kernel can
head off problems before they happen.

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Odd /etc/hosts entry

[Clint Olsen]

So, I just debugged a majorly annoying problem doing port forwarding with
SSH.  Thanks to some creative Googling, I realized I had a weird entry in
my hosts file.  What does this "::1" entry mean?

#::1localhost localhost.my.domain

-Clint
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Re: 3COM NIC Card???

[User LAFFER1]

They should be.  I have used the same card in 4.9 stable and 5.2.1 
release.

On Mon, 26 Jul 2004, Hakim Singhji wrote:
Hello All,
I recently purchased a pair of 3Com 3C905CTXM EtherLink XL PCI TX Network adapter PCI 
100 Mbps NIC Cards and I wanted to know if they are compatible with FreeBSD 4.10 
(stable).  Could someone please give me some feedback on this thanks.
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Re: Changing cards in a reader (next step??)

[David Kelly]

On Jul 26, 2004, at 12:26 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I have followed all suggestions and responded with the output of my 
attemps. The problem remains unresolved. I have also requested that
if anyone has this working *properly* to respond but no one did.
Why not install /usr/ports/emulators/mtools/ and configure "O:" drive 
("O" for Olympus) as /dev/da2s1 ?

Then one does not have to be root to insert or remove the card. Just 
access the card with mdir, mcopy, mdel, mcd, etc ... Yank the card out 
any time you are not using it and insert another just as one does with 
tar and tapes.

I'm thinking your issue is probably within mount_msdos. Mtools 
implement the DOS filesystem internally. Each M-command issued starts 
at the start of media, finds the directory and volume data, then goes 
to the appropriate file(s), completely from scratch each time. So there 
is no "mount". It does tend to remember current directory.

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Re: AMD64 support: FreeBSD v.s. Gentoo

[Björn Lindström]

Wojciech Puchar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

>> Does Gentoo or FreeBSD have better support for the
>> AMD64 architecture at this point?
> what is gentoo?
>
> is it some new OS or linux distro?

It's a Linux distribution, so I assume the question was meant to be:

"Does Linux or FreeBSD for the AMD64 architecture at this point?"

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RE: Whats the fastest Windows 2000 like Window Manager ??

[Michael Clark]

> -Original Message-
> From: Wojciech Puchar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, July 26, 2004 12:42 PM
> To: Mark Weinem
> Cc: freebsd-questions
> Subject: Re: Whats the fastest Windows 2000 like Window Manager ??
> 
> 
> >
> > > The "leanest" desktop environment for Linux/Unix/FreeBSD is XFCE4.
> >
> > I don't think so; look here:
> >
> > http://www.xwinman.org/otherdesktops.html
> >
> XD640 looks really cool, unfortunately it's about 1/3 done.
> 
> but i still don't understand sense of projects like XPde? 
> what's a sense
> of making things almost exactly looking like windows?!
> windows is 100% windows compatible

Making things look like windows just makes it easier for people changing
platforms.  I am using icewm with an XP theme, so that people that done
know, or care to know, don't have to learn a new interface.  It is very
effective in a work environment.


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Re: Whats the fastest Windows 2000 like Window Manager ??

[Vulpes Velox]

On Mon, 26 Jul 2004 08:45:02 -0700 (PDT)
DK <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi all,
> 
> I just installed FreeBSD v4.10
> 
> I would like to install a basic FAST Windows 2000 like Window
> Manager that "ONLY" has:- Basic FAST GUI
> - MS Notepad like Editor
> - MS Windows Explorer like File Manager
> 
> I am setting this up as a test web server with Apache etc...
> 
> I want very BASIC Windows like GUI with a GUI Text Editor(NOT VI,
> more like Notepad) to edit configuration files etc AND a Windows
> Explorer like File Manager to move files easily around & from the
> CD(ie. NOT command line stuff!)

man ports

check out portupgrade and cvsup

find stuff you like in ports/editors, ports/x11-wm, and
ports/x11-fm...

btw there is a nice search and port list on freebsd.org
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Re: AMD64 support: FreeBSD v.s. Gentoo

[Wojciech Puchar]

> Does Gentoo or FreeBSD have better support for the
> AMD64 architecture at this point?
what is gentoo?

is it some new OS or linux distro?

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Re: Whats the fastest Windows 2000 like Window Manager ??

[Wojciech Puchar]

>
> > The "leanest" desktop environment for Linux/Unix/FreeBSD is XFCE4.
>
> I don't think so; look here:
>
>   http://www.xwinman.org/otherdesktops.html
>
XD640 looks really cool, unfortunately it's about 1/3 done.

but i still don't understand sense of projects like XPde? what's a sense
of making things almost exactly looking like windows?!
windows is 100% windows compatible
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AMD64 support: FreeBSD v.s. Gentoo

[jam man]

Does Gentoo or FreeBSD have better support for the
AMD64 architecture at this point? 
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Re: implementing spf

[Kevin Stevens]

On Mon, 26 Jul 2004, Robert Storey wrote:

> I never heard of spf until yesterday, when there was a big discussion
> about it on Slashdot. The discussion was very political (about
> Microsoft, Richard Stallman, etc). I don't want to get into any of the
> politics here, as it's not appropriate for this list. But I am
> interested in the technology aspect.

Most of the technology issues aren't appropriate for this list, either, so
I suspect you care less about the propriety than your particular interest.

> Specifically:
>
>   1) Is the technology useful?
>
>   2) How does one implement spf on the server side?
>
>   3) How does one implement spf on the client side?
>
> I most interested in No. 3 above - specifically, is there anything that
> I must do as an end-user to make use of spf?

As an end-user, nothing.  http://spf.pobox.com/users.html.  Same site for
a general FAQ which addresses implementation (it's done via DNS records).
The Slashdot article had a link to the Microsoft implementation; the
complaint about it is that they are releasing a free license to implement,
which can be revoked at any time.

KeS
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Changing cards in a reader (next step??)

[hoe-waa]

Aloha

I need to know where to go next. I have originated two previous threads
regarding this problem. 

http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2004-June/050819.html
http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2004-July/053047.html

I have followed all suggestions and responded with the output of my attemps. 
The problem remains unresolved. I have also requested that if anyone has this
working *properly* to respond but no one did.

Can I *assume* that this is a bug? Is the next step filing a bug report?
Being a newbie, can someone steer me in the right direction to file a bug 
report. Is there something else I should do?

Any assistance would be appreciated.

Thank You
Robert

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Re: Whats the fastest Windows 2000 like Window Manager ??

[Mark Weinem]

On Mon, 26 Jul 2004, Jud wrote:

> The "leanest" desktop environment for Linux/Unix/FreeBSD is XFCE4.

I don't think so; look here:

http://www.xwinman.org/otherdesktops.html


Ciao, Mark Weinem
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Sendmail Upgrade/relay Question

[Rob]

Hello,

I just upgraded sendmail on my test mailserver from a very old 8.11.6 to
8.13.0. The upgrade finally went ok after a few problems but now I cannot
relay. I have the IP of my machine in /etc/mail/access (just as it was
before) but in the maillog it says that relaying is denied for this IP. I
have double checked that my IP didn't change and I also did the "makemap
hash /etc/mail/access < /etc/mail/access" to make sure that my db was up to
date. I can't figure out what the problem might be.

Any pointers greatly appreciated.

Rob.

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Re: Converting or Reading UFS?

[Charles Swiger]

On Jul 26, 2004, at 3:34 AM, Wojciech Puchar wrote:
   I have 4 large (120- 200 Gig) hard drives   server. The server 
died and I'm no longer using FreeBSD  I can get the data off these 
drives?

   - Convert UFS to any other mountable and   OS X? If so, where? I 
thought maybe Ghost, but sector copies, which are not readable by 
Ghost

isn't OS X capable of reading UFS?
Yes, certainly.  However, MacOS X keeps filesystem data in network byte 
order (aka big-endian); I'm not sure whether it knows how to understand 
a FreeBSD UFS filesystem, which most probably uses native little-endian 
byte order.  It may still be worth a try.

Otherwise, the best bet is to mount these drives on a FreeBSD box long 
enough to either rsync the data to some other machine, or take a backup 
using tar or dump.

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Re: portupgrade(1) kde fails

[Mark Ovens]

Kent Stewart wrote:
Kdelibs has the new files and when you try to update kdebase later, it 
messes up the install. That is why you have to delete kdebase first. If 
the files had been moved from kdelibs into kdebase, it wouldn't have 
mattered.

Ah, I see. OK, I'll give it a spin. Thanks for the help Kent.
Regards,
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Re: portupgrade(1) kde fails

[Kent Stewart]

On Monday 26 July 2004 07:33 am, Mark Ovens wrote:
> Kent Stewart wrote:
> > Hi Mark,
> >
> > On a 2nd read, I thought I was kind of sharp.
>
> No problem. I saw the message:
>
>   ===>  kdelibs-3.2.3_1 conflicts with installed package(s):
> kdebase-3.1.2
>
> They install files into the same place.
> Please remove them first with pkg_delete(1).
> *** Error code 1
>
> but it seemed misleading because I thought that portupgrade(1)
> pkg_delete-ed the old version (after first backing up the files) -
> obviously not.
>
> > What you have is a similar
> > problem to the old problem with  XFree86-server and -libraries. You
> > update -libraries, which contain the new files, and then you delete
> > them when you update -server. Then, nothing would update because
> > files were missing.
> >
> > There were a number of comments on -questions or -ports when this
> > first happened.
>
> Yes, I'd searched the mailing lists (for KDE problems, not XFree86)
> but didn't find anything that seemd relevant, although after your
> reply some of them make sense now.
>
> > You might get by just deleting kdebase.
>
> Delete kde-libs surely?

Kdelibs has the new files and when you try to update kdebase later, it 
messes up the install. That is why you have to delete kdebase first. If 
the files had been moved from kdelibs into kdebase, it wouldn't have 
mattered.

>
> Is this a limitation/shortcoming/bug of portupgrade(1)? Is the whole
> point of it ot that it handles, often complex, dependencies for you?

Portupgrade doesn't deal with the situation with large projects such as 
KDE when files or tools are moved from a lower port into one required 
as a base port such as kdelibs. I don't think it could deal with it.

I always build packages and can just reinstall the one that I just 
trashed.

Kent

>
> Thanks for the reply.
>
> Regards,
>
> Mark
>
> > Kent
> >
> > On Monday 26 July 2004 05:40 am, Kent Stewart wrote:
> >> On Monday 26 July 2004 05:20 am, Mark Ovens wrote:
> >> > I'm trying to upgrade kde (the meta-port), 3.1.2->3.2.3_1 using
> >> > portupgrade(1) but it fails trying to install kdelibs.
> >> >
> >> > Can anyone shed any light on what's wrong?
> >> >
> >> > FreeBSD redshift 5.2-CURRENT FreeBSD 5.2-CURRENT #2: Sun Jul 25
> >> > 19:19:46 BST 2004
> >> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/REDSHIFT i386
> >> >
> >> > /home/mark{106}# pkg_info | grep kde
> >> >
> >> > kde-3.1.2   The "meta-port" for KDE
> >> > kdebase-3.1.2   This package provides the basic applications
> >> > for the KDE sy
> >> > kdegames-3.1.2  Games for the KDE integrated X11 desktop
> >> > kdegraphics-3.1.2   Graphics utilities for the KDE3 integrated
> >> > X11 desktop kdelibs-3.1.2   This is the base set of
> >> > libraries needed by KDE programs kdemultimedia-3.1.2 Multimedia
> >> > utilities for the KDE integrated X11 desktop kdenetwork-3.1.2   
> >> > Network-related programs and modules for KDE kdesdk-3.1.4   
> >> > KDE Software Development Kit kdeutils-3.1.2  Utilities for
> >> > the KDE integrated X11 desktop xmms-kde-3.0.0  Integrates
> >> > XMMS into the KDE3 Panel
> >> > /home/mark{107}#
> >> >
> >> > /home/mark{107}# portupgrade -Rv kde-3.1.2
> >> >
> >> > [snip successful build of dependencies and kdelibs]
> >> >
> >> > pkg_delete: unable to completely remove directory
> >> > '/usr/local/share/servicetypes'
> >> >
> >> > [snip lots of similar lines]
> >> >
> >> > pkg_delete: unable to completely remove directory
> >> > '/usr/local/include/kate' rmdir: /usr/local/include/arts:
> >> > Directory not empty
> >> > pkg_delete: couldn't entirely delete package (perhaps the
> >> > packing list is incorrectly specified?)
> >> > [Updating the pkgdb  in /var/db/pkg ... - 148
> >> > packages found (-1 +0) (...) done]
> >> > --->  Uninstallation of kdelibs-3.1.2 ended at: Mon, 26 Jul 2004
> >> > 13:12:26 +0100 (consumed 00:00:28)
> >> > --->  Installation of x11/kdelibs3 started at: Mon, 26 Jul 2004
> >> > 13:12:26 +0100
> >> > --->  Installing the new version via the port
> >> > ===>  Installing for kdelibs-3.2.3_1
> >> >
> >> > ===>  kdelibs-3.2.3_1 conflicts with installed package(s):
> >> >kdebase-3.1.2
> >> >
> >> >They install files into the same place.
> >> >Please remove them first with pkg_delete(1).
> >> > *** Error code 1
> >>
> >> It told you what to do right here. You can't directly upgrade to
> >> the next level because of the file shift.
> >>
> >> Kent
>
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ports & packages: problems with fetch

[Brian Sheehan]

Hi,
I've recently been having problems with the ports/packages system on a 
newly installed 4.10-RELEASE FreeBSD machine. Some port/package 
installations would fail, making it seem that a large proportion of 
package repositories where out of date, and that only a small number 
were up to date. I more or less solved the problem, but I'm posting this 
here as it took quite a lot of fiddling to  overcome it, and it took me 
a while to cop what the actual problem was: a dodgy proxy server between 
me and the freeBSD repositories.

Some port / package installations would fail with:
fetch: 
ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/local-distfiles/: 
size unknown

If the file were fetched manually, the same "size unknown" warning would 
be displayed, but fetch would actually go ahead and download the file 
anyway. If the file were placed in /usr/ports/distfiles, installation 
would sometimes work. In cases where it didn't, an inspection of the 
downloaded .tar.gz file with cat showed it to in fact contain a http 
error response from the proxy server I was using. Fetching the same 
files from a machine outside the firewall worked perfectly.

Solution:
I tried a different proxy server in the organisation where I work - it 
is administered by a different department than the one I was using, and 
seems to work reliably with fetch.

Does this sound like a reasonable explanation to people? If so, which 
proxy servers are know to be problematic?

Brian
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Re: 3COM NIC Card???

[Ed Budd]

Hakim Singhji wrote:
Hello All,
I recently purchased a pair of 3Com 3C905CTXM EtherLink XL PCI TX Network adapter PCI 
100 Mbps NIC Cards and I wanted to know if they are compatible with FreeBSD 4.10 
(stable).  Could someone please give me some feedback on this thanks.
Hakim Z. Singhji
Coordinating Mgr. / Infection Control
718-245-3923
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These have always worked great for me. Enable the 'xl' and 'miibus' 
drivers in your kernel conf:

"man xl" for details.
EB
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Re: Whats the fastest Windows 2000 like Window Manager ??

[Vulpes Velox]

On Mon, 26 Jul 2004 12:08:03 -0400
Jason Stewart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On 26/07/04 08:45 -0700, DK wrote:
> > Hi all,
> > 
> > I just installed FreeBSD v4.10
> > 
> > I would like to install a basic FAST Windows 2000 like Window
> > Manager that "ONLY" has:- Basic FAST GUI
> > - MS Notepad like Editor
> > - MS Windows Explorer like File Manager
> > 
> > I am setting this up as a test web server with Apache etc...
> > 
> > I want very BASIC Windows like GUI with a GUI Text Editor(NOT VI,
> > more like Notepad) to edit configuration files etc AND a Windows
> > Explorer like File Manager to move files easily around & from the
> > CD(ie. NOT command line stuff!)
> 
> Windows 2000 is not "Basic". If you run twm with xfm or something
> similar you will be dissapointed when you compare it to w2k.

If you are talking about the front end to it, it is insanely basic,
barely configurable, and and does not require much power to pull
something off like it.
 
> Fluxbox is a good, extremely lightwieght window manager. It's very
> basic, as in no eye candy, but it's nice to older, less powerful
> machines. For file managing, you might want to look at gentoo (no,
> not the Linux dist.) file manager, tkdesk, or rox-filer.
> 
> > -
> > My System:
> > Pentium 200Mhz
> > 128MB SDRAM
> > 16MB PCI Creative Graphics Blaster Riva TNT
> > 10 GIG HD
> > -
> > 
> > I have Windows 2000 installed on the Primary Boot partition & that
> > runs VERY fast(compared to FreeBSD + KDE or GNOME)
> >
> 
> X11 can be a big hog sometimes. You will not get a window manager
> (actually desktop environment) that looks and acts like windows
> (i.e. KDE) to run quickly on this type of hardware. I have a PII
> 400Mhz with 196MB RAM running fluxbox that performs quite snappy. I
> wouldn't dare put gnome or KDE on it though.

Actually KDE does more than Explorer has ever done... same for
gnome...
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Re: 3COM NIC Card???

[Mark Ovens]

Hakim Singhji wrote:
Hello All,
I recently purchased a pair of 3Com 3C905CTXM EtherLink XL PCI TX
Network adapter PCI 100 Mbps NIC Cards and I wanted to know if they
are compatible with FreeBSD 4.10 (stable).  Could someone please give
me some feedback on this thanks.
Yes, http://www.freebsd.org/releases/4.10R/hardware-i386.html#ETHERNET
Regards,
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Re: how to upgrade Perl

[merv]

pkg_version -v | grep "p5"


On Monday 26 July 2004 16:49, Paul Schmehl wrote:
> --On Monday, July 26, 2004 12:46:06 PM +0100 merv <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > You will also have to reinstall all the other p5 ports that you may have
> > installed prior to this upgrade. So that they all compile for 5.8
>
> This explains something.  I tried to upgrade perl and ran use.perl port,
> but that broke things.
>
> Is there a trivial way to see what p5 ports you have installed?  I'm
> perfectly willing to do the work if the end result is functional.  :-)
>
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Re: Apaching binding to *:* ?? (Weirdness)

[Bill Moran]

Nelis Lamprecht <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Mon, 2004-07-26 at 01:04, Bill Moran wrote:
> 
> > I'm having some weird action from Apache.  It seems that every apache process
> > binds to *:* twice, in addition to IP:80 and IP:443.  Has anyone seen this
> > before?  This is Apache 1.3.28 (although an upgrade is on the schedule)  I
> > had _wanted_ to test the new version of Apache in the jail prior to upgrading,
> > but I'm not so sure that's going to work.
> > 
> > Anyone seen this before?
> 
> Are you not confusing local addresses to foreign ? Each local address
> will have a foreign address as far as I understand it. What is the
> output of sockstat -4l ?

Don't think so.  Here's a snippet of the above command:
...
www  httpd  941   4  tcp4   *:*   *:*
www  httpd  941   5  tcp4   *:*   *:*
www  httpd  941   16 tcp4   209.235.192.67:443*:*
www  httpd  941   17 tcp4   209.235.192.67:80 *:*
...

Every apache process has those four listening entries.

Thanks for the feedback.

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Re: Whats the fastest Windows 2000 like Window Manager ??

[Jud]

On Mon, 26 Jul 2004 08:45:02 -0700 (PDT), "DK" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
said:
> Hi all,
> 
> I just installed FreeBSD v4.10
> 
> I would like to install a basic FAST Windows 2000 like Window Manager
> that "ONLY" has:
> - Basic FAST GUI
> - MS Notepad like Editor
> - MS Windows Explorer like File Manager
> 
> I am setting this up as a test web server with Apache etc...
> 
> I want very BASIC Windows like GUI with a GUI Text Editor(NOT VI, more
> like Notepad) to edit
> configuration files etc AND a Windows Explorer like File Manager to move
> files easily around &
> from the CD(ie. NOT command line stuff!)
> 
> -
> My System:
> Pentium 200Mhz
> 128MB SDRAM
> 16MB PCI Creative Graphics Blaster Riva TNT
> 10 GIG HD
> -
> 
> I have Windows 2000 installed on the Primary Boot partition & that runs
> VERY fast
> (compared to FreeBSD + KDE or GNOME)
> 
> 
> Any suggestions/help is greatly appreciated :))

What you want is attainable, but not in the form you're asking for. 
Linux distros aimed at the former Win user like Mandrake, RedHat/Fedora,
etc., have obscured what was once a clear divide between the Win
(all-in-one) and *nix (an application for each task) way of doing
things.  Packages that include window managers, file managers and
editors are pretty well restricted to the two big "desktop
environments," GNOME and KDE.  However, there is a different and fairly
easy way to attack the problem, using individual pieces that together
will do what you want.

The "leanest" desktop environment for Linux/Unix/FreeBSD is XFCE4.  It
includes a window manager and a file manager, is fairly easy to use, and
is much lighter on resources than GNOME or KDE.  That leaves editors. 
Preferences among editors can be the stuff of flamewars, but I'll don my
asbestos suit and say that nedit seems to me to be fairly lightweight
and easy to use.

If you want to assemble your "package" from 3 pieces rather than 2, then
some choices you might consider are:

Window Managers -

- Blackbox/Fluxbox/Openbox: Blackbox and variants, minimalist but
adequate, lightning-fast and easy enough to use if you can right-click.

- Icewm: A bit less minimalistic than the -boxes, still fast.  I found
configuring icewm to my liking a bit more difficult than it was with the
-boxes.

File Managers -

- Rox-filer: Nice, fairly intuitive, simple lightweight GUI file
manager.

Re: editors, I've already mentioned nedit.

Also - I know you didn't ask, but if you want to use a browser, Opera is
small, fast and works very nicely.

I'm sure others will have various suggestions in all these categories.

Jud
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Re: Whats the fastest Windows 2000 like Window Manager ??

[Jerry McAllister]

> 
> > I am setting this up as a test web server with Apache etc...
> >
> > I want very BASIC Windows like GUI with a GUI Text Editor(NOT VI, more like 
> > Notepad) to edit
> > configuration files etc AND a Windows Explorer like File Manager to move files 
> > easily around &
> > from the CD(ie. NOT command line stuff!)
> 
> so why you installed FreeBSD while windows 2000 (maybe XP) is what you
> want?

Probably he wanted something more reliable and secure, but  still
wants some of the convenience (from his point of view anyway).
He's looking for what he perceives as the best of both worlds.

But, I am not one to answer the original question because I prefer 
using vi and command line stuff, etc rather than be bothered with all
that GUI interference, that never seems to do things the way I 
really want it.

jerry

> 
> don't expect other software that are not windows to be windows.
> fortunately they are not.
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interface aliases with the fxp driver

[Chris Boyd]

While setting up a server with several IP addresses on the same
interface, we noticed something a bit odd.

When we add the new IP address with the command
  ifconfig fxp0 alias 192.168.12.100 netmask 255.255.255.255

We can ping the address and all seems well at first.  Then apparently
the other machines' ARP caches time out, and the 192.168.12.100 IP
address is no longer reachable on the LAN.

tcpdump confirms that the server is not responding to ARP requests.

Adding the arp keyword to the ifconfig command seems to fix things.
   ifconfig fxp0 alias arp 192.168.12.100 netmask 255.255.255.255

Works as we'd expect.

This was observed on 4.9-RELEASE and 4.10-STABLE

I've not tried it on boxes with other kinds of Ethernet cards yet.

Is this normal, or a bug in the fxp driver?

Thanks!

--Chris

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Re: Whats the fastest Windows 2000 like Window Manager ??

[Jason Stewart]

On 26/07/04 08:45 -0700, DK wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> I just installed FreeBSD v4.10
> 
> I would like to install a basic FAST Windows 2000 like Window Manager that "ONLY" 
> has:
> - Basic FAST GUI
> - MS Notepad like Editor
> - MS Windows Explorer like File Manager
> 
> I am setting this up as a test web server with Apache etc...
> 
> I want very BASIC Windows like GUI with a GUI Text Editor(NOT VI, more like Notepad) 
> to edit
> configuration files etc AND a Windows Explorer like File Manager to move files 
> easily around &
> from the CD(ie. NOT command line stuff!)

Windows 2000 is not "Basic". If you run twm with xfm or something
similar you will be dissapointed when you compare it to w2k.

Fluxbox is a good, extremely lightwieght window manager. It's very
basic, as in no eye candy, but it's nice to older, less powerful
machines. For file managing, you might want to look at gentoo (no, not the Linux
dist.) file manager, tkdesk, or rox-filer.

> -
> My System:
> Pentium 200Mhz
> 128MB SDRAM
> 16MB PCI Creative Graphics Blaster Riva TNT
> 10 GIG HD
> -
> 
> I have Windows 2000 installed on the Primary Boot partition & that runs VERY fast
> (compared to FreeBSD + KDE or GNOME)
>

X11 can be a big hog sometimes. You will not get a window manager
(actually desktop environment) that looks and acts like windows (i.e.
KDE) to run quickly on this type of hardware. I have a PII 400Mhz with
196MB RAM running fluxbox that performs quite snappy. I wouldn't dare
put gnome or KDE on it though.

Regards,
Jason
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3COM NIC Card???

[Hakim Singhji]

Hello All,

I recently purchased a pair of 3Com 3C905CTXM EtherLink XL PCI TX Network adapter PCI 
100 Mbps NIC Cards and I wanted to know if they are compatible with FreeBSD 4.10 
(stable).  Could someone please give me some feedback on this thanks.


Hakim Z. Singhji
Coordinating Mgr. / Infection Control
718-245-3923
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Re: Whats the fastest Windows 2000 like Window Manager ??

[Wojciech Puchar]

> I am setting this up as a test web server with Apache etc...
>
> I want very BASIC Windows like GUI with a GUI Text Editor(NOT VI, more like Notepad) 
> to edit
> configuration files etc AND a Windows Explorer like File Manager to move files 
> easily around &
> from the CD(ie. NOT command line stuff!)

so why you installed FreeBSD while windows 2000 (maybe XP) is what you
want?

don't expect other software that are not windows to be windows.
fortunately they are not.
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Re: Apaching binding to *:* ?? (Weirdness)

[Bill Moran]

Jason Cribbins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Sun, 2004-07-25 at 19:04, Bill Moran wrote:
> > I'm having some weird action from Apache.  It seems that every apache process
> > binds to *:* twice, in addition to IP:80 and IP:443.  Has anyone seen this
> > before?  This is Apache 1.3.28 (although an upgrade is on the schedule)  I
> > had _wanted_ to test the new version of Apache in the jail prior to upgrading,
> > but I'm not so sure that's going to work.
> > 
> > Anyone seen this before?
> 
> Actually thats default behavior for apache and many other daemons.  You can
> limit what IPs it listens on in the httpd.conf file

I guess I should've been smarter and included some of the Apache config:

...
Listen 209.235.192.67:80

##
##  SSL Support
##
##  When we also provide SSL we have to listen to the
##  standard HTTP port (see above) and to the HTTPS port
##

#Listen 209.235.192.67:80
Listen 209.235.192.67:443
#Port 443

...

This is my current attempt to get things acting as I would like.  As you
can see by the commented out parts, I've tried a number of other combinations.

There are not other Listen, Port, or BindAddress declarations in the config.

-- 
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Re: how to upgrade Perl

[Paul Schmehl]

--On Monday, July 26, 2004 12:46:06 PM +0100 merv <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
You will also have to reinstall all the other p5 ports that you may have
installed prior to this upgrade. So that they all compile for 5.8
This explains something.  I tried to upgrade perl and ran use.perl port, 
but that broke things.

Is there a trivial way to see what p5 ports you have installed?  I'm 
perfectly willing to do the work if the end result is functional.  :-)

Paul Schmehl ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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The University of Texas at Dallas
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RE: Whats the fastest Windows 2000 like Window Manager ??

[Michael Clark]

Check out icewm in ports.

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> -Original Message-
> From: DK [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, July 26, 2004 10:45 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Whats the fastest Windows 2000 like Window Manager ??
> 
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> I just installed FreeBSD v4.10
> 
> I would like to install a basic FAST Windows 2000 like Window 
> Manager that "ONLY" has:
> - Basic FAST GUI
> - MS Notepad like Editor
> - MS Windows Explorer like File Manager
> 
> I am setting this up as a test web server with Apache etc...
> 
> I want very BASIC Windows like GUI with a GUI Text Editor(NOT 
> VI, more like Notepad) to edit
> configuration files etc AND a Windows Explorer like File 
> Manager to move files easily around &
> from the CD(ie. NOT command line stuff!)
> 
> -
> My System:
> Pentium 200Mhz
> 128MB SDRAM
> 16MB PCI Creative Graphics Blaster Riva TNT
> 10 GIG HD
> -
> 
> I have Windows 2000 installed on the Primary Boot partition & 
> that runs VERY fast
> (compared to FreeBSD + KDE or GNOME)
> 
> 
> Any suggestions/help is greatly appreciated :))
> 
> 
> Regards,
> 
> DK
> 
> 
> 
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Re: Whats the fastest Windows 2000 like Window Manager ??

[Paul Schmehl]

--On Monday, July 26, 2004 08:45:02 AM -0700 DK <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hi all,
I just installed FreeBSD v4.10
I would like to install a basic FAST Windows 2000 like Window Manager
that "ONLY" has: - Basic FAST GUI
- MS Notepad like Editor
- MS Windows Explorer like File Manager
I am setting this up as a test web server with Apache etc...
I want very BASIC Windows like GUI with a GUI Text Editor(NOT VI, more
like Notepad) to edit configuration files etc AND a Windows Explorer like
File Manager to move files easily around & from the CD(ie. NOT command
line stuff!)
Use webmin.  That will allow you to use a browser to do your config stuff. 
If you really want a GUI, tvm should work fine for what you want to do.

Paul Schmehl ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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The University of Texas at Dallas
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Re: Make buildkernal KERNKONF ( etc etc )

[Chris Ryan]

> I'm running "make buildkernel KERNCONF=;make installkernel
> KERNCONF=" right now under 5.2-CURRENT and 4.10-STABLE; I wonder if
> you have all the source tree installed on that system, and you have a
> kernel configuration file of the specified name in /usr/src/sys/i386/conf.
> 
> Mike Squires
> 


Thanks again Mike

Did a complete re-install - all works well

Chris






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Whats the fastest Windows 2000 like Window Manager ??

[DK]

Hi all,

I just installed FreeBSD v4.10

I would like to install a basic FAST Windows 2000 like Window Manager that "ONLY" has:
- Basic FAST GUI
- MS Notepad like Editor
- MS Windows Explorer like File Manager

I am setting this up as a test web server with Apache etc...

I want very BASIC Windows like GUI with a GUI Text Editor(NOT VI, more like Notepad) 
to edit
configuration files etc AND a Windows Explorer like File Manager to move files easily 
around &
from the CD(ie. NOT command line stuff!)

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My System:
Pentium 200Mhz
128MB SDRAM
16MB PCI Creative Graphics Blaster Riva TNT
10 GIG HD
-

I have Windows 2000 installed on the Primary Boot partition & that runs VERY fast
(compared to FreeBSD + KDE or GNOME)


Any suggestions/help is greatly appreciated :))


Regards,

DK




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Re: Apaching binding to *:* ?? (Weirdness)

[Jason Cribbins]

On Sun, 2004-07-25 at 19:04, Bill Moran wrote:
> I'm having some weird action from Apache.  It seems that every apache process
> binds to *:* twice, in addition to IP:80 and IP:443.  Has anyone seen this
> before?  This is Apache 1.3.28 (although an upgrade is on the schedule)  I
> had _wanted_ to test the new version of Apache in the jail prior to upgrading,
> but I'm not so sure that's going to work.
> 
> Anyone seen this before?

Actually thats default behavior for apache and many other daemons.  You can limit what 
IPs it listens on in the httpd.conf file

Jason

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