Re: Newbie

2004-07-01 Thread Chris Strzelczyk
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Second, there are a number of books out there for complete newbies and
even for seasond professionals.  I personally recommand AbsoluteBSD by
Michael Lucas.

Cheers
-chris
 Hi,

 I am new to this, just wandering if I could get some pointers in right
 direction into learning this software from basics to gaining intermidiate
 skills.

 I am a cisco engineer however want to learn  the unix/linux too.

 any advice you can give me or what will help in learning BSD.

 Regards

 Chintan

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Re: Newbie

2004-07-01 Thread Jon Drews
Hello Chintan:

 In addition to Chris' advice I heartily recommend the tutorials at
FreeBSD basics:

http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/ct/15

I also find Greg Lehey's The Complete FreeBSD to be a very good
reference book.

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 I am a cisco engineer however want to learn  the unix/linux too.
 
 any advice you can give me or what will help in learning BSD.
 
 Regards
 
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Re: newbie trouble - Internet problem solved!!!

2004-06-17 Thread Steve Bertrand
 I now have Internet up and working.

Great! One less mass mailing drone on the Inet! :o)

 Next problem is to learn handling the ports!


Ask away...

Steve

 cheers
 jobse

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RE: newbie trouble - Internet connection

2004-06-16 Thread Michael Clark
Well, do an ifconfig -a and post it so that we have some more information.
Please post your /etc/rc.conf as well

Non of the ISP's I know of support anything other then Windows and Mac OS.  
But, we should be able to make it work!

Michael Clark
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mclark at nemschoff dot com
CompTIA A+, Network+, Server+, MCP
Voice: (920) 457 7726 x294
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-Original Message-
From: jobse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2004 11:16 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: newbie trouble - Internet connection


Hello!
Having trouble with getting my internet connection to work under FreeBSD
5.2.1, although it works well under Fedora.
Am abel to connect to host(my ISP) and I am getting login/logout prompt
with statics about uptime etc. However I cannot get to
any Internet site. My ISP havent got a clue they say, they don't provide
support for OS:s other than windows -major drag btw.

thanks
jobse



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Re: newbie trouble - Internet connection

2004-06-16 Thread Remko Lodder
Hey Jobse,
jobse wrote:
Hello!
Having trouble with getting my internet connection to work under FreeBSD
5.2.1, although it works well under Fedora.
Am abel to connect to host(my ISP) and I am getting login/logout prompt
with statics about uptime etc. However I cannot get to
any Internet site. My ISP havent got a clue they say, they don't provide
support for OS:s other than windows -major drag btw.
thanks
jobse
Most ISP's do that, since most users have Windows.
Did you turnon any dns servers?
if not then that might cause you having issues connecting to other sites.
How do you connect to host (your ISP) ? ssh $ip-addr-ISP or a browser 
pointing to http://$ip-addr-of-ISP.

Do you use a Firewall?
etc
Hth,


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RE: newbie trouble - Internet connection

2004-06-16 Thread jobse
Thanks for answering! I'm unable to 
give you the whole thing 'cause FreeBSD is on the other partion.

//ifconfig
vr0:flags=...UP,BROADCASTING,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST mtu 1500
//some lines
Status active

plip0:flags=...POINTTOPOINT,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST Mtu 1500

lo0:flags=...UP,LOOPBACK,RUNNING,MULTICASTmtu 16384
//some lines

// rc.conf

hostname=proxenos.comhem.se
ifconfig_vr0=DHCP
linux_enable yes
mouse...
saver
usbd
rpcbind_enable=yes

/jobse



ons 2004-06-16 klockan 18.45 skrev Michael Clark: 
 Well, do an ifconfig -a and post it so that we have some more information.
 Please post your /etc/rc.conf as well
 
 Non of the ISP's I know of support anything other then Windows and Mac OS.  
 But, we should be able to make it work!
 
 Michael Clark
 Nemschoff Chairs Inc
 mclark at nemschoff dot com
 CompTIA A+, Network+, Server+, MCP
 Voice: (920) 457 7726 x294
 Fax:  (920) 453 6594
 
 
 --Original Message--
 From: jobse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2004 11:16 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: newbie trouble - Internet connection
 
 
 Hello!
 Having trouble with getting my internet connection to work under FreeBSD
 5.2.1, although it works well under Fedora.
 Am abel to connect to host(my ISP) and I am getting login/logout prompt
 with statics about uptime etc. However I cannot get to
 any Internet site. My ISP havent got a clue they say, they don't provide
 support for OS:s other than windows -major drag btw.
 
 thanks
 jobse
 
 
 
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Re: newbie trouble - Internet connection

2004-06-16 Thread jobse
Hello!
Well, I have no DNS installed, no server at all actually and I use
mozilla when connecting. The problem is not the browser, right? Perhaps
a firewall as you mentioned, or, the file /etc/hosts... hosts.allow?

 



ons 2004-06-16 klockan 19.28 skrev Remko Lodder:
 Hey Jobse,
 
 
 jobse wrote:
 
  Hello!
  Having trouble with getting my internet connection to work under FreeBSD
  5.2.1, although it works well under Fedora.
  Am abel to connect to host(my ISP) and I am getting login/logout prompt
  with statics about uptime etc. However I cannot get to
  any Internet site. My ISP havent got a clue they say, they don't provide
  support for OS:s other than windows -major drag btw.
  
  thanks
  jobse
 
 Most ISP's do that, since most users have Windows.
 Did you turnon any dns servers?
 if not then that might cause you having issues connecting to other sites.
 
 How do you connect to host (your ISP) ? ssh $ip-addr-ISP or a browser 
 pointing to http://$ip-addr-of-ISP.
 
 Do you use a Firewall?
 
 etc
 
 Hth,
 
  
 

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Re: newbie trouble - Internet connection

2004-06-16 Thread Steve Bertrand
 Well, I have no DNS installed, no server at all actually and I use
 mozilla when connecting. The problem is not the browser, right? Perhaps
 a firewall as you mentioned, or, the file /etc/hosts... hosts.allow?

I may have missed something, but how do you connect to your ISP? Dial-up
ppp, PPPoE (DSL), Cable etc?

Do you have a gateway device at your location? What is the output of the
following:

# ping 127.0.0.1
# ping localhost

What is the 'default' entry say when you do:

# netstat -rn

Next, what is the output of the following command?:

# cat /etc/resolv.conf

Regards,

Steve






 ons 2004-06-16 klockan 19.28 skrev Remko Lodder:
 Hey Jobse,


 jobse wrote:

  Hello!
  Having trouble with getting my internet connection to work under
 FreeBSD
  5.2.1, although it works well under Fedora.
  Am abel to connect to host(my ISP) and I am getting login/logout
 prompt
  with statics about uptime etc. However I cannot get to
  any Internet site. My ISP havent got a clue they say, they don't
 provide
  support for OS:s other than windows -major drag btw.
 
  thanks
  jobse

 Most ISP's do that, since most users have Windows.
 Did you turnon any dns servers?
 if not then that might cause you having issues connecting to other
 sites.

 How do you connect to host (your ISP) ? ssh $ip-addr-ISP or a browser
 pointing to http://$ip-addr-of-ISP.

 Do you use a Firewall?

 etc

 Hth,

 


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RE: newbie trouble - Internet connection

2004-06-16 Thread Michael Clark
Sounds like you just need to add dns servers to your /etc/resolv.conf
Your ISP should be able to give them to you.  Entries are just:

nameserver 123.123.123.132

ifconfig -a should have displayed your ip address.  That will
tell you if your dhcp is really working.


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-Original Message-
From: jobse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2004 12:45 PM
To: Michael Clark; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: newbie trouble - Internet connection


Thanks for answering! I'm unable to 
give you the whole thing 'cause FreeBSD is on the other partion.

//ifconfig
vr0:flags=...UP,BROADCASTING,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST mtu 1500
//some lines
Status active

plip0:flags=...POINTTOPOINT,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST Mtu 1500

lo0:flags=...UP,LOOPBACK,RUNNING,MULTICASTmtu 16384
//some lines

// rc.conf

hostname=proxenos.comhem.se
ifconfig_vr0=DHCP
linux_enable yes
mouse...
saver
usbd
rpcbind_enable=yes

/jobse



ons 2004-06-16 klockan 18.45 skrev Michael Clark: 
 Well, do an ifconfig -a and post it so that we have some more information.
 Please post your /etc/rc.conf as well
 
 Non of the ISP's I know of support anything other then Windows and Mac OS.

 But, we should be able to make it work!
 
 Michael Clark
 Nemschoff Chairs Inc
 mclark at nemschoff dot com
 CompTIA A+, Network+, Server+, MCP
 Voice: (920) 457 7726 x294
 Fax:  (920) 453 6594
 
 
 --Original Message--
 From: jobse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2004 11:16 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: newbie trouble - Internet connection
 
 
 Hello!
 Having trouble with getting my internet connection to work under FreeBSD
 5.2.1, although it works well under Fedora.
 Am abel to connect to host(my ISP) and I am getting login/logout prompt
 with statics about uptime etc. However I cannot get to
 any Internet site. My ISP havent got a clue they say, they don't provide
 support for OS:s other than windows -major drag btw.
 
 thanks
 jobse
 
 
 
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Re: newbie trouble - Internet connection

2004-06-16 Thread jobse
Hello Steve!
I am connected through Cabel. I don't have resolv.conf, thats for sure.
Pinging looked fine.

netstat -rn gave (briefly).
destination: Gateway:

default 213.64.3.1 vr0
213.64.3 ...
... ...
213.64.3.[myIP] 127.0.0.1 lo0

Thanks
jobse






ons 2004-06-16 klockan 20.18 skrev Steve Bertrand: 
  Well, I have no DNS installed, no server at all actually and I use
  mozilla when connecting. The problem is not the browser, right? Perhaps
  a firewall as you mentioned, or, the file /etc/hosts... hosts.allow?
 
 I may have missed something, but how do you connect to your ISP? Dial-up
 ppp, PPPoE (DSL), Cable etc?
 
 Do you have a gateway device at your location? What is the output of the
 following:
 
 # ping 127.0.0.1
 # ping localhost
 
 What is the 'default' entry say when you do:
 
 # netstat -rn
 
 Next, what is the output of the following command?:
 
 # cat /etc/resolv.conf
 
 Regards,
 
 Steve
 
 
 
 
 
 
  ons 2004-06-16 klockan 19.28 skrev Remko Lodder:
  Hey Jobse,
 
 
  jobse wrote:
 
   Hello!
   Having trouble with getting my internet connection to work under
  FreeBSD
   5.2.1, although it works well under Fedora.
   Am abel to connect to host(my ISP) and I am getting login/logout
  prompt
   with statics about uptime etc. However I cannot get to
   any Internet site. My ISP havent got a clue they say, they don't
  provide
   support for OS:s other than windows -major drag btw.
  
   thanks
   jobse
 
  Most ISP's do that, since most users have Windows.
  Did you turnon any dns servers?
  if not then that might cause you having issues connecting to other
  sites.
 
  How do you connect to host (your ISP) ? ssh $ip-addr-ISP or a browser
  pointing to http://$ip-addr-of-ISP.
 
  Do you use a Firewall?
 
  etc
 
  Hth,
 
  
 
 
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Re: newbie trouble - Internet connection

2004-06-16 Thread Steve Bertrand
 I am connected through Cabel. I don't have resolv.conf, thats for sure.
 Pinging looked fine.

 netstat -rn gave (briefly).
 destination: Gateway:

 default 213.64.3.1 vr0
 213.64.3 ...
 ... ...
 213.64.3.[myIP] 127.0.0.1 lo0

Good. It appears as though DHCP is working (hence having a default
gateway), so as someone else already suggested, call up the ISP, ask them
what the DNS servers are and create a new file (/etc/resolv.conf), and add
the following lines to it:

search isp-domain.com
nameserver ip-of-dns-server1
nameserver ip-of dns-server2

save the file and now try to:

# ping google.ca

and or:

# dig google.ca

Cheers,

Steve



 Thanks
 jobse






 ons 2004-06-16 klockan 20.18 skrev Steve Bertrand:
  Well, I have no DNS installed, no server at all actually and I use
  mozilla when connecting. The problem is not the browser, right?
 Perhaps
  a firewall as you mentioned, or, the file /etc/hosts... hosts.allow?

 I may have missed something, but how do you connect to your ISP? Dial-up
 ppp, PPPoE (DSL), Cable etc?

 Do you have a gateway device at your location? What is the output of the
 following:

 # ping 127.0.0.1
 # ping localhost

 What is the 'default' entry say when you do:

 # netstat -rn

 Next, what is the output of the following command?:

 # cat /etc/resolv.conf

 Regards,

 Steve

 
 
 
 
 
  ons 2004-06-16 klockan 19.28 skrev Remko Lodder:
  Hey Jobse,
 
 
  jobse wrote:
 
   Hello!
   Having trouble with getting my internet connection to work under
  FreeBSD
   5.2.1, although it works well under Fedora.
   Am abel to connect to host(my ISP) and I am getting login/logout
  prompt
   with statics about uptime etc. However I cannot get to
   any Internet site. My ISP havent got a clue they say, they don't
  provide
   support for OS:s other than windows -major drag btw.
  
   thanks
   jobse
 
  Most ISP's do that, since most users have Windows.
  Did you turnon any dns servers?
  if not then that might cause you having issues connecting to other
  sites.
 
  How do you connect to host (your ISP) ? ssh $ip-addr-ISP or a browser
  pointing to http://$ip-addr-of-ISP.
 
  Do you use a Firewall?
 
  etc
 
  Hth,
 
  
 
 
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Re: newbie trouble - Internet connection

2004-06-16 Thread Steve Bertrand

 I am connected through Cabel. I don't have resolv.conf, thats for sure.
 Pinging looked fine.

Better yet, don't bother calling the ISP. Here are the name server
addresses for your ISP:

194.22.190.10
194.22.194.14

Regards,

Steve


 netstat -rn gave (briefly).
 destination: Gateway:

 default 213.64.3.1 vr0
 213.64.3 ...
 ... ...
 213.64.3.[myIP] 127.0.0.1 lo0

 Thanks
 jobse






 ons 2004-06-16 klockan 20.18 skrev Steve Bertrand:
  Well, I have no DNS installed, no server at all actually and I use
  mozilla when connecting. The problem is not the browser, right?
 Perhaps
  a firewall as you mentioned, or, the file /etc/hosts... hosts.allow?

 I may have missed something, but how do you connect to your ISP? Dial-up
 ppp, PPPoE (DSL), Cable etc?

 Do you have a gateway device at your location? What is the output of the
 following:

 # ping 127.0.0.1
 # ping localhost

 What is the 'default' entry say when you do:

 # netstat -rn

 Next, what is the output of the following command?:

 # cat /etc/resolv.conf

 Regards,

 Steve

 
 
 
 
 
  ons 2004-06-16 klockan 19.28 skrev Remko Lodder:
  Hey Jobse,
 
 
  jobse wrote:
 
   Hello!
   Having trouble with getting my internet connection to work under
  FreeBSD
   5.2.1, although it works well under Fedora.
   Am abel to connect to host(my ISP) and I am getting login/logout
  prompt
   with statics about uptime etc. However I cannot get to
   any Internet site. My ISP havent got a clue they say, they don't
  provide
   support for OS:s other than windows -major drag btw.
  
   thanks
   jobse
 
  Most ISP's do that, since most users have Windows.
  Did you turnon any dns servers?
  if not then that might cause you having issues connecting to other
  sites.
 
  How do you connect to host (your ISP) ? ssh $ip-addr-ISP or a browser
  pointing to http://$ip-addr-of-ISP.
 
  Do you use a Firewall?
 
  etc
 
  Hth,
 
  
 
 
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Re: newbie trouble - Internet connection

2004-06-16 Thread jobse
Thanks Steve!
And Michael and Remko!

C'ya later.

Regards
Jobse(www.tintin.kau.se/users/03jobse)


ons 2004-06-16 klockan 21.40 skrev Steve Bertrand:
  I am connected through Cabel. I don't have resolv.conf, thats for sure.
  Pinging looked fine.
 
 Better yet, don't bother calling the ISP. Here are the name server
 addresses for your ISP:
 
 194.22.190.10
 194.22.194.14
 
 Regards,
 
 Steve
 
 
  netstat -rn gave (briefly).
  destination: Gateway:
 
  default 213.64.3.1 vr0
  213.64.3 ...
  ... ...
  213.64.3.[myIP] 127.0.0.1 lo0
 
  Thanks
  jobse
 
 
 
 
 
 
  ons 2004-06-16 klockan 20.18 skrev Steve Bertrand:
   Well, I have no DNS installed, no server at all actually and I use
   mozilla when connecting. The problem is not the browser, right?
  Perhaps
   a firewall as you mentioned, or, the file /etc/hosts... hosts.allow?
 
  I may have missed something, but how do you connect to your ISP? Dial-up
  ppp, PPPoE (DSL), Cable etc?
 
  Do you have a gateway device at your location? What is the output of the
  following:
 
  # ping 127.0.0.1
  # ping localhost
 
  What is the 'default' entry say when you do:
 
  # netstat -rn
 
  Next, what is the output of the following command?:
 
  # cat /etc/resolv.conf
 
  Regards,
 
  Steve
 
  
  
  
  
  
   ons 2004-06-16 klockan 19.28 skrev Remko Lodder:
   Hey Jobse,
  
  
   jobse wrote:
  
Hello!
Having trouble with getting my internet connection to work under
   FreeBSD
5.2.1, although it works well under Fedora.
Am abel to connect to host(my ISP) and I am getting login/logout
   prompt
with statics about uptime etc. However I cannot get to
any Internet site. My ISP havent got a clue they say, they don't
   provide
support for OS:s other than windows -major drag btw.
   
thanks
jobse
  
   Most ISP's do that, since most users have Windows.
   Did you turnon any dns servers?
   if not then that might cause you having issues connecting to other
   sites.
  
   How do you connect to host (your ISP) ? ssh $ip-addr-ISP or a browser
   pointing to http://$ip-addr-of-ISP.
  
   Do you use a Firewall?
  
   etc
  
   Hth,
  
   
  
  
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Re: Newbie Issues (networking w/ FreeBSD)

2004-06-15 Thread Kevin Stevens
On Jun 14, 2004, at 05:08, Jon Adams wrote:
 My network connectivity is ridiculously slow...  I had OpenSSH 
timeout set to
the default, 120 secs, and the messages file said the connections (on 
the same
100MBPs hub mind you) were timing out before authentication 
(password).  I went
in and doubled the timeout, and after a long wait (I didnt check the 
time) I
could get a password prompt...  at first I thought this was just a SSH 
problem,
but it is the same if I use telnet (or any other network service).  I 
have
several devices on my Lan including 2 (eww) Windows XP laptops, and a 
PS2 and a
XP workstation.  I have 3 public IPs, (Speakeasy is the ISP) The 
laptops use a
LinkSys 54G Wireless Hub and one public IP (its plugged into a NetGear 
4 port
hub), I split another IP with the Desktop and PS2, and the FreeBSD box 
will
have its own IP, of course the final port is the uplink.  There are 
absolutly
no connectivity problems with the other machines.  The FreeBSD box 
cannot
connect to the dns servers (on three different networks) or much of 
anything
else.

Here is the really weird part, when I run an NMAP scan from inside the 
network
and one from outside the network, the box is reachable (NMAP can see 
the ports
and determine the OS), but nothing can connect to it (all connections 
time out).
If you can ping devices by ip address, you have basic connectivity.  
Start with the local interface itself, then devices on the same 
physical network, then devices on other subnets of the local LAN.  Any 
of these local devices should respond in single-digit milliseconds, 
with perhaps a drop of the first ping packet.  If you get no route to 
host messages, or other total failure messages, check for 
correct/consistent subnet masking on all devices involved, or potential 
firewall blocking (if appropriate to configuration).  If you get poor 
response (high dropped packet percentage, excessive delays), check for 
port speed/duplex matching problems or bad cabling.

Assuming basic connectivity, many application timeout issues in Unix 
systems result from either forward or reverse name resolution failure.  
It can be frustrating to resolve, generally hard-coding the host and 
FQDN entries in the local hosts file and with the hostname utility is a 
good debugging step.

KeS
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Re: Newbie Issues (networking w/ FreeBSD).. Solved

2004-06-15 Thread Jon Adams
Thanks for the response,
turns out Speakeasy (ISP) had... ahem.. reprovisioned my IP Address when I 
made some changes to my service.. figured this out by putting rl0 on another IP 
with the same settings.. its all fixed now.. and the IPFW issue is resolved 
(thanks to the person who posted the kld) (doh)... 

Still havent figured out how i was able to NMAP it from outside my net...  

oh well.. it works now..

Thanks
-- Jon


Quoting Kevin Stevens [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 
 On Jun 14, 2004, at 05:08, Jon Adams wrote:
 
   My network connectivity is ridiculously slow...  I had OpenSSH 
  timeout set to
  the default, 120 secs, and the messages file said the connections (on 
  the same
  100MBPs hub mind you) were timing out before authentication 
  (password).  I went
  in and doubled the timeout, and after a long wait (I didnt check the 
  time) I
  could get a password prompt...  at first I thought this was just a SSH 
  problem,
  but it is the same if I use telnet (or any other network service).  I 
  have
  several devices on my Lan including 2 (eww) Windows XP laptops, and a 
  PS2 and a
  XP workstation.  I have 3 public IPs, (Speakeasy is the ISP) The 
  laptops use a
  LinkSys 54G Wireless Hub and one public IP (its plugged into a NetGear 
  4 port
  hub), I split another IP with the Desktop and PS2, and the FreeBSD box 
  will
  have its own IP, of course the final port is the uplink.  There are 
  absolutly
  no connectivity problems with the other machines.  The FreeBSD box 
  cannot
  connect to the dns servers (on three different networks) or much of 
  anything
  else.
 
  Here is the really weird part, when I run an NMAP scan from inside the 
  network
  and one from outside the network, the box is reachable (NMAP can see 
  the ports
  and determine the OS), but nothing can connect to it (all connections 
  time out).
 
 If you can ping devices by ip address, you have basic connectivity.  
 Start with the local interface itself, then devices on the same 
 physical network, then devices on other subnets of the local LAN.  Any 
 of these local devices should respond in single-digit milliseconds, 
 with perhaps a drop of the first ping packet.  If you get no route to 
 host messages, or other total failure messages, check for 
 correct/consistent subnet masking on all devices involved, or potential 
 firewall blocking (if appropriate to configuration).  If you get poor 
 response (high dropped packet percentage, excessive delays), check for 
 port speed/duplex matching problems or bad cabling.
 
 Assuming basic connectivity, many application timeout issues in Unix 
 systems result from either forward or reverse name resolution failure.  
 It can be frustrating to resolve, generally hard-coding the host and 
 FQDN entries in the local hosts file and with the hostname utility is a 
 good debugging step.
 
 KeS
 
 


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Re: ipfw (was Re: Newbie Issues (networking w/ FreeBSD))

2004-06-14 Thread Geert Hendrickx
 off the topic, if anybody could point me at how to build ipfw I would 
 appreciate it, i have seen the basic tutorials via google, but have no idea 
 where to get the kernel sources to do the install.

You don't need any additional stuff, it all comes with FreeBSD.  Either you
load the kernelmodule with kldload ipfw or you compile the code into your
kernel by adding options IPFIREWALL to your kernel-configuration.  Be warned
though that IPFW defaults to deny any connection, so either begin with an
open type of firewall or load a ruleset, otherwise you'll be cut off the
network.  

It's all in de Handbook (as always), see
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/firewalls.html, or
/usr/share/doc/en/books/handbook/firewalls.html.  

GH
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Re: Newbie Issues (networking w/ FreeBSD)

2004-06-14 Thread K. Greenwood

--- Jon Adams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
snipped stuff

 The (main) problem -
 
  My network connectivity is ridiculously slow...  I
 had OpenSSH timeout set to 
 the default, 120 secs, and the messages file said
 the connections (on the same 
 100MBPs hub mind you) were timing out before
 authentication (password).  I went 
 in and doubled the timeout, and after a long wait (I
 didnt check the time) I 
 could get a password prompt...  at first I thought
 this was just a SSH problem, 
 but it is the same if I use telnet (or any other
 network service).  I have 
 several devices on my Lan including 2 (eww) Windows
 XP laptops, and a PS2 and a 
 XP workstation.  I have 3 public IPs, (Speakeasy is
 the ISP) The laptops use a 
 LinkSys 54G Wireless Hub and one public IP (its
 plugged into a NetGear 4 port 
 hub), I split another IP with the Desktop and PS2,
 and the FreeBSD box will 
 have its own IP, of course the final port is the
 uplink.  There are absolutly 
 no connectivity problems with the other machines. 
 The FreeBSD box cannot 
 connect to the dns servers (on three different
 networks) or much of anything 
 else.

Considering the only response you have received thus
far has been regarding IPFW, I may as well give a
ham-handed attempt.

My first guess is /etc/rc.conf.  Is there a
defaultrouter=x.x.x.x line?  If you do an ifconfig
-a are you getting an IP actually assigned?

Perhaps your resolv.conf is not right?  Should be
similar to:

domain nosuchdomainhere.net
nameserver 1.2.3.4

where there are two entries for nameserver that jive
with the ISP assigned DNS servers.

Considering that you are manually setting your rl0,
(not using DHCP), perhaps these are missing?  

Have you tried using rl0=DHCP?  Perhaps the chance
of finding a problem, is less of a pain then if your
ISP changes something on you.  Good luck.


snipped... I can think of one thing at a time




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Re: Newbie: 4.9 / 5.2.1 / 4.10 ??

2004-05-08 Thread Peter Risdon
Daniela wrote:

On Friday 07 May 2004 16:25, Kevin D. Kinsey, DaleCo, S.P. wrote:
 

4)	Can freebsd use a linux swap space?
 

Yes, anything can be used as swap space, but be sure to determine the correct 
device file, or else you'll overwrite precious data.
If, for example, you have the Linux swap on the second slice on the first IDE 
drive, the device file would be: /dev/ad0s2 (at least for 4.9, I think for 
5.X it's /dev/ad0s2c but I'm not sure).
 

This might help:

http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Linux+FreeBSD.html

It includes a section on sharing swap space.

PWR.
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Re: Newbie: 4.9 / 5.2.1 / 4.10 ??

2004-05-07 Thread Kevin D. Kinsey, DaleCo, S.P.
cc'ed to questions: let's move it there?

Geoffrey Lane wrote:

I'm fairly familiar with linux and have been running redhat for a few years 
now. I'm looking for something I have more control over and isn't bloated 
with alot of stuff I don't need...
BSD is on the top of my list, there are only a few set backs for me to make 
the switch:

1)	should I download and install the new technology releases or use the 4.x
	branch and what are the differences?
 

First off, before someone else flames in, you are probably going to be
told to send this to questions@ instead of [EMAIL PROTECTED]  However, I read
both, and will cc: this over so that anything I say that's dumb will get
shot down (hopefully before it causes you grief ;-) )
I have had no issues with the 5.X branch, and it will, sooner or later,
be the STABLE branch of development, and 4.X will fade into RAM...
For me, the most notable difference is that 5.X does background
file system checking in the even of improper shutdown, thus speeding
up the boot process.  It also has a new boot menu with more options,
although I've not had cause to use this much, maybe at all.  I won't
comment on ufs2; it hasn't been default on my installs, so I am running
on ufs (the elder file system).
The kernel structure is a little different; 5.x is a very modular thing
compared to 4.x.  PERL in 5.x is 5.6.1 as opposed to 5.0003 ... there
was talk of moving PERL out of the base system; but apparently this
hasn't happened yet, as perl is still in /usr/bin instead of 
/usr/local/bin...

Please keep in mind this is me talking, and I'm not official or even
Real Knowledgeable (tm)on such matters...
2)	How do they differ (new tech/4.9)?
 

Is this the same as #1?  Or was #1 asking only about installation.
In my experience, installation hasn't changed much at all between
4.x and 5.x
3)	Are new technology (eg. 5.2.x) considered the unstable branch?
 

Not exactly, but maybe, sort of.  The cutting edge chapter of the
handbook (www.freebsd.org/handbook) will give you some insight
into this area.
It's not exactly that the OS is unstable in 5.X --- there are a few issues
still in transition (you mention GEOM?, others report some ACPI
issues on some mobos, watchdog timeouts on Intel Gigabit Ether cards
(I think...?), problems with ufs2 (only hearsay AFAIAmConcered)
--- the real point, at least according to one committer I've talked to,
is that 5.X/CURRENT is simply still in development, and it might be
possible that someone would, prior to 5.X being deemed STABLE
instead of CURRENT, create changes in the codebase that would
require everyone to rebuild not only their kernel/userland, but
potentially every piece of 3rd party software on a system.
Now, I'd consider this fairly unlikely, but it's possible from what he said.

In contrast, if anyone committed such a change to the branch after it
becomes the STABLE branch (or to 4.X now), he would likely be taken
out and flogged, or stapled to the flagpole at Microsoft HQ, or given
an extra commit bit or something equally horrifying...
4)  Can freebsd use a linux swap space?
5)  What is this geometry bug and can it be fixed  How?
This would at least be dual-boot windows and possibly linux for a little 
familiarity. So this geometry problem has not allowed me to partition the 
disk using linux and windows programs afterwards and it sems to have 
currupted the partition table because there is no visible.

I would appreciate someone's reply to these probably stupid questions
Thanks for your time
Geoff
 

I'm not real familiar with these issues, as I run FBSD dd
(alone!) and, as I said, am no expert on disk issues.  I'm
sorry if you feel I'm wasting your time.
There has been a thead or two on the questions list recently
about multi-booting, and probably about the Geometry issue as
well.  I'd certainly recommend browsing the archives at
www.freebsd.org/mail ...
Good luck,

KDK
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Re: Newbie: 4.9 / 5.2.1 / 4.10 ??

2004-05-07 Thread Daniela
On Friday 07 May 2004 16:25, Kevin D. Kinsey, DaleCo, S.P. wrote:
 4)   Can freebsd use a linux swap space?

Yes, anything can be used as swap space, but be sure to determine the correct 
device file, or else you'll overwrite precious data.
If, for example, you have the Linux swap on the second slice on the first IDE 
drive, the device file would be: /dev/ad0s2 (at least for 4.9, I think for 
5.X it's /dev/ad0s2c but I'm not sure).

Daniela


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Re: Newbie question regarding Virtual Hosts setup

2004-05-05 Thread Kevin D. Kinsey, DaleCo, S.P.
David H. Ingham wrote:

Hopefully, a simple question.



I have set up a FreeBSD server to develop a web app for a client.

my system is:



   FreeBSD   Version 5.2

   Apache Version 2.0.47

   MySQL Version 4.0.16

   MySQLCC Version 0.9.3

   PHP Version 4.3.3



Now I am able to create the pages, (using Quanta 3.1.4).but I cannot view
them 

from anywhere except the FreeBSD box.

 

Before I upgraded from FreeBSD 4.9 to 5.2, I could get to the site from my
W2K system, 

using a VirtualHost setting and browsing to http://10.0.0.27:5000/login.php

 

Forgive me for not answering your question directly;
I'm going to suggest something else; it's possibly better,
and will eliminate a few issues regarding your network
setup in general:
Why not try name-based virtual hosting?  Set up
the following in httpd.conf and restart Apache:
   #
   # Use name-based virtual hosting.
   #
   NameVirtualHost *:80
   # VirtualHost example:
   # Almost any Apache directive may go into a VirtualHost container.
   # The first VirtualHost section is used for requests without a known
   # server name.
   #
   VirtualHost *
   ServerName my.examplesite.net
   DocumentRoot /path/to/mydocs
   ServerAdmin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   # whatever else, log files, etc
  /VirtualHost
Then set the hosts files on both server and
clients (esp. clients) something like:
   # Dummy entries for intranet and test sites

   10.0.0.27   my.examplesite.net
   10.0.0.27   my.otherexample.org
Access the sites using the names you've
assigned...
   http://my.examplesite.net/login.php

HTH,

Kevin Kinsey
DaleCo, S.P.
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Re: Newbie question regarding Virtual Hosts setup

2004-05-05 Thread mark
On May 5, 2004, at 11:54 AM, Kevin D. Kinsey, DaleCo, S.P. wrote:

David H. Ingham wrote:

Hopefully, a simple question.

I have set up a FreeBSD server to develop a web app for a client.

my system is:

   FreeBSD   Version 5.2

   Apache Version 2.0.47

   MySQL Version 4.0.16

   MySQLCC Version 0.9.3

   PHP Version 4.3.3

In your httpd.conf, set

Listen 0.0.0.0:80

I think its defaulting to only listen for localhost.

Now I am able to create the pages, (using Quanta 3.1.4).but I cannot 
view
them
from anywhere except the FreeBSD box.

Before I upgraded from FreeBSD 4.9 to 5.2, I could get to the site 
from my
W2K system,
using a VirtualHost setting and browsing to 
http://10.0.0.27:5000/login.php


Forgive me for not answering your question directly;
I'm going to suggest something else; it's possibly better,
and will eliminate a few issues regarding your network
setup in general:
Why not try name-based virtual hosting?  Set up
the following in httpd.conf and restart Apache:
   #
   # Use name-based virtual hosting.
   #
   NameVirtualHost *:80
   # VirtualHost example:
   # Almost any Apache directive may go into a VirtualHost container.
   # The first VirtualHost section is used for requests without a known
   # server name.
   #
   VirtualHost *
   ServerName my.examplesite.net
   DocumentRoot /path/to/mydocs
   ServerAdmin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   # whatever else, log files, etc
  /VirtualHost
Then set the hosts files on both server and
clients (esp. clients) something like:
   # Dummy entries for intranet and test sites

   10.0.0.27   my.examplesite.net
   10.0.0.27   my.otherexample.org
Access the sites using the names you've
assigned...
   http://my.examplesite.net/login.php

HTH,

Kevin Kinsey
DaleCo, S.P.
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Re: Newbie question regarding Virtual Hosts setup

2004-05-05 Thread Kevin D. Kinsey, DaleCo, S.P.
mark wrote:

On May 5, 2004, at 11:54 AM, Kevin D. Kinsey, DaleCo, S.P. wrote:

David H. Ingham wrote:

Hopefully, a simple question.

I have set up a FreeBSD server to develop a web app for a client.

my system is:

   FreeBSD   Version 5.2

   Apache Version 2.0.47

   MySQL Version 4.0.16

   MySQLCC Version 0.9.3

   PHP Version 4.3.3

In your httpd.conf, set

Listen 0.0.0.0:80

I think its defaulting to only listen for localhost.

Worth a shot, I suppose; every Apache I've ever set up
defaulted to *:80, though.
Trying:  'netstat -anf inet ' should clue him in on that
possibility...
KDK
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Re: newbie question: Gnome 2.6 upgrade

2004-04-23 Thread Joshua Lokken
* Lucas Holt [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004-04-22 11:32]:
  
 
 The problem only seems to be with X11.  I tried running several commands in
 console mode that I can normally run from any location and they all worked
 fine.  so far startx seems to be the only thing that won't run like it used

This could be for naught, but what does 'xinit' do for you?

 to.  I read something about shells having to be rehashed to update the PATH
 lines?  I run in bash if that makes a difference.
 
 
 
 If I'm not mistaken, you only need to run rehash with a csh not sh/bash.
 Besides, you said the machine rebooted.  The path should be correct then.

Right and right.  Rehash is a [t]csh builtin, not present in Bourne
shells, and yep, if the machine was rebooted (or the user logged out),
then the point is moot.
 
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Re: newbie question: Gnome 2.6 upgrade

2004-04-23 Thread Joe Altman
On Fri, Apr 23, 2004 at 01:03:16AM -0700, Joshua Lokken wrote:
 * Lucas Holt [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004-04-22 11:32]:
  
  The problem only seems to be with X11.  I tried running several commands in
  console mode that I can normally run from any location and they all worked
  fine.  so far startx seems to be the only thing that won't run like it used
 
 This could be for naught, but what does 'xinit' do for you?
 
  to.  I read something about shells having to be rehashed to update the PATH
  lines?  I run in bash if that makes a difference.
 
  If I'm not mistaken, you only need to run rehash with a csh not sh/bash.
  Besides, you said the machine rebooted.  The path should be correct then.
 
 Right and right.  Rehash is a [t]csh builtin, not present in Bourne
 shells, and yep, if the machine was rebooted (or the user logged out),
 then the point is moot.

hash is in bash.

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RE: newbie question: Gnome 2.6 upgrade

2004-04-22 Thread Lucas Holt
 
I would run portversion -v | grep  and make sure everything was upgraded
to start with.  If all the gnome and X11 related stuff appears to be
upgraded, it might be hard to track down which build was at fault.  I think
the gnome upgrade script made a logfile in tmp.  I would check to see if
there is one there and if so see what happened.  Did you have x11 running
when you tried the upgrade?  Did the machine reboot or simply logout?  

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Re: newbie question: Gnome 2.6 upgrade

2004-04-22 Thread Ewald Jenisch

On Thu, Apr 22, 2004 at 10:16:25AM -0400, Ian Bowers wrote:

 I'm having trouble upgrading to gnome 2.6.  I had gnome 2.4
 installed and running just fine.  I cvsup'd with the ports-supfile,
 and ran the gnome_upgrade.sh file.  

Maybe dumb question: Did you upgrade ruby as instructed in
/usr/ports/UPDATING before upgrading Gnome? (I ran into that trap a
while ago)


 Since running cvsup and the upgrade, I can't run startx like I used
 to.  

Are your problems only related to X11 - or do you have the problems
when running in console-mode too?

Try switching virtual terminals with AltCtrlF-key (like
AltCtrlF2). First of all this switches you out to a
console-terminal leaving X running and thus gives to the ability to
track things down further.

-ewald

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RE: newbie question: Gnome 2.6 upgrade

2004-04-22 Thread Ian Bowers
I'll track down that logfile and check it out.  I didn't have X11 running at 
the time, since I figured it might have to upgrade some components that X11 
runs on.  It rebooted the machine, and when I scrolled up to check out all 
the startup text, everything looked in order.  Hopefully something will jump 
out in the logfile.


From: Lucas Holt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 'Ian Bowers' [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: newbie question:  Gnome 2.6 upgrade
Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2004 10:44:22 -0400
I would run portversion -v | grep  and make sure everything was upgraded
to start with.  If all the gnome and X11 related stuff appears to be
upgraded, it might be hard to track down which build was at fault.  I think
the gnome upgrade script made a logfile in tmp.  I would check to see if
there is one there and if so see what happened.  Did you have x11 running
when you tried the upgrade?  Did the machine reboot or simply logout?
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Re: newbie question: Gnome 2.6 upgrade

2004-04-22 Thread Ian Bowers



From: Ewald Jenisch [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Ian Bowers [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: newbie question:  Gnome 2.6 upgrade
Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2004 17:16:14 +0200
On Thu, Apr 22, 2004 at 10:16:25AM -0400, Ian Bowers wrote:

 I'm having trouble upgrading to gnome 2.6.  I had gnome 2.4
 installed and running just fine.  I cvsup'd with the ports-supfile,
 and ran the gnome_upgrade.sh file.
Maybe dumb question: Did you upgrade ruby as instructed in
/usr/ports/UPDATING before upgrading Gnome? (I ran into that trap a
while ago)
Like a proper n00b, I didn't even know there was such a directory.  I 
followed the upgrade FAQ at freebsd.org on the assumption that it was a full 
set of instructions.  Thank you very much for this tidbit.  I'll upgrade 
ruby and check out that dir.

 Since running cvsup and the upgrade, I can't run startx like I used
 to.
Are your problems only related to X11 - or do you have the problems
when running in console-mode too?
Try switching virtual terminals with AltCtrlF-key (like
AltCtrlF2). First of all this switches you out to a
console-terminal leaving X running and thus gives to the ability to
track things down further.
-ewald



The problem only seems to be with X11.  I tried running several commands in 
console mode that I can normally run from any location and they all worked 
fine.  so far startx seems to be the only thing that won't run like it used 
to.  I read something about shells having to be rehashed to update the PATH 
lines?  I run in bash if that makes a difference.

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RE: newbie question: Gnome 2.6 upgrade

2004-04-22 Thread Lucas Holt
 

The problem only seems to be with X11.  I tried running several commands in
console mode that I can normally run from any location and they all worked
fine.  so far startx seems to be the only thing that won't run like it used
to.  I read something about shells having to be rehashed to update the PATH
lines?  I run in bash if that makes a difference.



If I'm not mistaken, you only need to run rehash with a csh not sh/bash.
Besides, you said the machine rebooted.  The path should be correct then.

You could type env and look at your environment variables. Make sure X11 is
still in your path.

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Re: Newbie Question

2004-04-19 Thread Remko Lodder

 Hello All,

How do I uninstall or disable snmpd. I have spent too many days
 trying to find this info.

pkg_info |grep -i snmp

Check which snmpd you have installed.

then do pkg_delete $return_information_from_pkg_info_command

HTH!,


 Thank you.

 Jeff




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Re: Newbie Question

2004-04-18 Thread freebsduser
 Hello All,
 
How do I uninstall or disable snmpd. I have spent too many days 
 trying to find this info.
 
 Thank you.
 
 Jeff
 
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Places to look for startup items that I know about:
 1) rc.conf in your /etc
 2) /usr/local/etc/rc.d
You may want to check your /var/db/pkg directory to see if you installed anything like 
that as I don't have it running on my system. If you do find something in /var/db/pkg 
all you have to do is uninstall it either with pkg_delete or make deinstall (might be 
make uninstall) from the directory that snmp port was installed from.
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Re: Newbie help: domain name servers and (inter)networking.

2004-04-12 Thread Kevin D. Kinsey, DaleCo, S.P.
Lisa wrote:

Greetings all,

It has been a long time since I worked with any unix, and I had a spare pc
laying around that hadn't been on in months, so I decided to toss freebsd
onto it.
The installation went smoothly and I've got it up and running.  My next goal
is to get it's internet access working flawlessly.
The problem that I'm having is that while it can get access via IP address,
it's domain resolutions are not working.  The way that I've been setting
this up is via tutorials on the net, going into 

Sysinstall - configure - interfaces - sis0 then hitting yes for it to
auto detect everything.
All of this comes up really beautifully and happily.  The details it
discoveres are 100% correct.  However, I can not get the little box in
Interfaces to hold an 'x' (not sure if that's right or not anyway) and when
I exit sysinstall and go back, it has not retained the information.
When I do an nslookup from shell, it shows my ip as 0.0.0.0 which is
probably part of the problem.  It should be showing my internal IP
(192.168.1.13); which it does detect in sysinstall
Anyway, as you can see from this message, I'm a complete beginner at this.
If anyone is willing to take some time and work through it with me, I'd be
really super appreciative.
The option of re-working the network is nil, as well; there are 6 xp
machines so I have to get it talking to the existant network; which is based
off a linksys router.
Thank you all in advance.
 

Nameserver IP addresses go in the file /etc/resolv.conf.

What is the output of ifconfig -a?

Also, what does netstat -rn show?

Kevin Kinsey
DaleCo, S.P.
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RE: Newbie help: domain name servers and (inter)networking.

2004-04-12 Thread Lisa
If config -a shows a lot of things hehe.  I can't paste it but I'll try to
type this out:

Sis0: flags=8843Up,BROADCAST,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST mtu 1400 inet6
fe80::2d0:9ff:feec:9126%sis0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x1 inet 192.168.1.13
netmask 0xff00 broadcast 192.168.1.255 ether 00:d0:09:ec:91:26 media:
Ethernet autoselect (100baseTX) status: active
Plip0: flags-8810POINTOPOINT, SIMPLEX, MULTICAST mtu 1500
Lo0: flags=8049UP,LOOPBACK,RUNNING,MULTICAST mtu 16384 
inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 0xff00 
Inet6 ::1 prefixlen 128
Inet6 fe80::1%lo0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x3


The output of netstat -rn shows;


Default ; 192.168.1.1 ; UGS ; 0 ; 0 ; sis0
127.0.0.1 ; 127.0.0.1 ; UH ; 1 ; 416; lo0
192.168.1 ; link#1 ; UC ; 0 ; 0 ; sis0
192.168.1.1 ; link#1 ; UHLW ; 1 ; 126 ; sis0
192.168.1.13 ; 127.0.0.1 ; UGHS ; 0 ; 0 ; lo0

I do not currently have a /etc/resolve.conf - is it safe for me to just
create that?

Thank you for your help so far!


-Original Message-
From: Kevin D. Kinsey, DaleCo, S.P. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, April 12, 2004 3:29 PM
To: Lisa
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Newbie help: domain name servers and (inter)networking.

Lisa wrote:

Greetings all,

It has been a long time since I worked with any unix, and I had a spare 
pc laying around that hadn't been on in months, so I decided to toss 
freebsd onto it.

The installation went smoothly and I've got it up and running.  My next 
goal is to get it's internet access working flawlessly.

The problem that I'm having is that while it can get access via IP 
address, it's domain resolutions are not working.  The way that I've 
been setting this up is via tutorials on the net, going into

Sysinstall - configure - interfaces - sis0 then hitting yes for it 
to auto detect everything.

All of this comes up really beautifully and happily.  The details it 
discoveres are 100% correct.  However, I can not get the little box in 
Interfaces to hold an 'x' (not sure if that's right or not anyway) and 
when I exit sysinstall and go back, it has not retained the information.

When I do an nslookup from shell, it shows my ip as 0.0.0.0 which is 
probably part of the problem.  It should be showing my internal IP 
(192.168.1.13); which it does detect in sysinstall

Anyway, as you can see from this message, I'm a complete beginner at this.
If anyone is willing to take some time and work through it with me, I'd 
be really super appreciative.

The option of re-working the network is nil, as well; there are 6 xp 
machines so I have to get it talking to the existant network; which is 
based off a linksys router.

Thank you all in advance.
  


Nameserver IP addresses go in the file /etc/resolv.conf.

What is the output of ifconfig -a?

Also, what does netstat -rn show?

Kevin Kinsey
DaleCo, S.P.

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Re: Newbie help: domain name servers and (inter)networking.

2004-04-12 Thread albi
On Mon, 12 Apr 2004 15:38:03 -0400
Lisa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I do not currently have a /etc/resolve.conf - is it safe for me to
 just create that?

without a valid /etc/resolv.conf no internet (surfing) is possible
(unless you use ip-addresses by heart e.g.)

if you want to surf the internet you better fix your /etc/resolv.conf
by either adding your ISP's nameservers or running a nameserver yourself

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Re: newbie questions

2004-04-09 Thread Randy Pratt
On Fri, 9 Apr 2004 11:18:34 +0300 (EEST)
Radu MOLNAR [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I hope this is the right place to post this.Sorry if it isn't
 
 Just some stupid newbie questions:
 1) I have an alias made in my .profile alias vi='/usr/local/bin/vim' but
 the alias is not made when i log in X. If a log in console or using ssh
 from a remote host the alias is made but when i log in x it is not.
 Anybody know why? As shell i use bash.

Its definitely the right place to ask questions.  I can only comment
on the first question.

Its more of a question of how your shell is being invoked in your
window manager.  It sounds as if the window manager is invoking the
shell as a non-login shell.  You can test this by using
xterm -ls and see if your alias settings are being read.  This
causes the xterm to act as a login shell and bash will act
accordingly.

Take a look at man page for bash in the section INVOCATION for
a complete description of how bash behaves depending on whether
or not its a login or non-login shell.

There are several different ways to address it.  You could simply
duplicate your alias settings in a ~/.bashrc file which bash will
read when invoked in a non-login shell.  I personally don't like
having more than one place for any configuration.

It would probably be easier to change the way your window manager
invokes a shell.  I use xterms and blackbox so it was easy to
change the menu configuration from xterm to xterm -ls.  If
you are using a different type of terminal window in XFree86, then
look in its documentation for a way to make it behave as a login.
If you're using some other terminal type, check its documentation
for similar things and change your window manager menus
accordingly.

HTH,

Randy


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Re: Newbie stuck with kernel config (well sysinstall seams to hang)

2004-04-09 Thread Kevin D. Kinsey, DaleCo, S.P.
David Jones wrote:

Hello.  Im struggling with my first install of FreeBSD
(4.9 from CDROM).
I can find my way around the kernel config (visual and cli)
but when I quit this, the sysinstall menu appears and my
keyboard is dead (reset button doesn't work either).  I
have tried to supply as much relevant information as
possible from Windows98 that is currently installed, and
put what I see from an ls in cli kernel config mode in
[..].  Im looking for some advice to move forward 
likely problem areas / other debug I can obtain that might
help.
 

You *probably* should just skip the kernel configall those
drivers are legacy hardware (ISA stuff with jumpers for IRQ,
etc...) It could be that skipping it would solve an issue or
two, even.
I certainly see nothing in your list below that FreeBSD
can't handle with the GENERIC kernel ... it could be that
fudging with kernel config is breaking GENERIC 
Hmm, tell us about the CD 

Im more experienced with redhat, and if I try booting that
in text mode it dies as soon as it tries to boot the
kernel.
 

That doesn't sound too good. Does removing various
hardware components help at all?
Thanks for any help at all,
Dave
Hardware;
PentiumIII MMX 500MHz, 128Mb RAM
ATAPI CDROM (Secondary slave)
Seagate 3GB Generic IDE Disk Type46 (Primary master)
NEC Multisync XV15 monitor
Standard PCI Graphics adaptor VGA (in AGP slot)  IRQ11
   [vga0 0 0 ..
(I set this with irq sc0 11)  Sc0 0 irq11 flags 0x100]
Hard disk controllers;
  Intel82371AB/EB PCI Bus Master IDE Controller  IRQ14
 Primary IDE Controller (dual fifo)  IRQ14
  [ata0 0x1f0 irq14]
 Secondary IDE Controller (dual fifo)  IRQ15
  [ata1 0x170 irq15]
Compaq Standard 101/102-key Keyboard  IRQ1
[atkbdc0 0x60
 atkbd0  0 irq1 flags 0x1]
Standard serial mouse

Floppy drive  IRQ6 [fdc0 0x3f0 irq6 drq2]

Numeric data processor  IRQ13 [npx0 0xf0 irq13]

Programmable interrupt controller  IRQ2
  [nothing assigned irq2]
CMOS real time clock  IRQ8 [nothing assigned irq8]

System timer  IRQ0 [unset irqs appear as 0]

PCI to USB controller  IRQ12 [psm0 0 irq12]

Additional info;

Other drivers assigned irqs;
sio0 0x3f8 irq4
sio1 0x2f8 irq3
sio2 0x3e8 irq5
sio3 0x2e8 irq9
ppc0 0 irq7
ed0  0x280 irq10
ie0  0x300 irq10
lnc0 0x280 irq10
sn0  0x300 irq10
number of EISA slots to probe: 10

BIOS;
Award Modular BIOS v4.51PG
Award Plug and Play BIOS Extension v1.0A (PnP OS disabled
in BIOS).
When booting the BTX info looks like this;
BIOS drive A: is disk0
BIOS drive B: is disk1
BIOS drive C: is disk2
BIOS drive C: is disk3  ---??
 

That last is a tad unusual ... is the HDD partitioned
in two pieces?
Kevin Kinsey
DaleCo, S.P.
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Re: Newbie stuck with kernel config (well sysinstall seams to hang)

2004-04-09 Thread David Jones

Responses inline.  I just tried an lsdev at the console and
it dies when accessing the disk;

cd@ 0xff5c
disk@ 0xef68
disk0:  BIOS drive A:
disk0a: FFS
disk0c: FFS
disk1:  BIOS drive B
disk2:  BIOS drive C

Any ideas?

 --- Kevin D. Kinsey, DaleCo, S.P. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:  David Jones wrote:

snip

 You *probably* should just skip the kernel
 configall those
 drivers are legacy hardware (ISA stuff with jumpers for
 IRQ,
 etc...) It could be that skipping it would solve an issue
 or
 two, even.
 
 I certainly see nothing in your list below that FreeBSD
 can't handle with the GENERIC kernel ... it could be that
 fudging with kernel config is breaking GENERIC 

The install hangs at this point (just before sysinstall
screen)
 
 Hmm, tell us about the CD 

The CD or CDROM ;) ?
I've just booted a minimal install on vmware so the disk
seams ok.
I'll have to pull the cdrom out to find anymore about it.

 I’m more experienced with redhat, and if I try booting
 that
 in text mode it dies as soon as it tries to boot the
 kernel.
   
 
 
 That doesn't sound too good. Does removing various
 hardware components help at all?

There is nothing else to pull out except the floppy drive.

 Thanks for any help at all,
  Dave
 
 Hardware;
 PentiumIII MMX 500MHz, 128Mb RAM
 ATAPI CDROM (Secondary slave)
 Seagate 3GB Generic IDE Disk Type46 (Primary master)
 NEC Multisync XV15 monitor
 
 Standard PCI Graphics adaptor VGA (in AGP slot) – IRQ11
 [vga0 0 0 ..
  (I set this with “irq sc0 11”)  Sc0 0 irq11 flags
 0x100]
 
 Hard disk controllers;
Intel82371AB/EB PCI Bus Master IDE Controller – IRQ14
   Primary IDE Controller (dual fifo) – IRQ14
[ata0 0x1f0
 irq14]
   Secondary IDE Controller (dual fifo) – IRQ15
[ata1 0x170
 irq15]
 
 Compaq Standard 101/102-key Keyboard – IRQ1
  [atkbdc0 0x60
   atkbd0  0 irq1 flags
 0x1]
 
 Standard serial mouse
 
 Floppy drive – IRQ6 [fdc0 0x3f0 irq6 drq2]
 
 Numeric data processor – IRQ13 [npx0 0xf0 irq13]
 
 Programmable interrupt controller – IRQ2
[nothing assigned
 irq2]
 
 CMOS real time clock – IRQ8 [nothing assigned irq8]
 
 System timer – IRQ0 [unset irqs appear as 0]
 
 PCI to USB controller – IRQ12 [psm0 0 irq12]
 
 
 Additional info;
 
 Other drivers assigned irqs;
 sio0 0x3f8 irq4
 sio1 0x2f8 irq3
 sio2 0x3e8 irq5
 sio3 0x2e8 irq9
 ppc0 0 irq7
 
 ed0  0x280 irq10
 ie0  0x300 irq10
 lnc0 0x280 irq10
 sn0  0x300 irq10
 
 number of EISA slots to probe: 10
 
 BIOS;
 Award Modular BIOS v4.51PG
 Award Plug and Play BIOS Extension v1.0A (PnP OS
 disabled
 in BIOS).
 
 When booting the BTX info looks like this;
 BIOS drive A: is disk0
 BIOS drive B: is disk1
 BIOS drive C: is disk2
 BIOS drive C: is disk3  ---??
   
 
 
 That last is a tad unusual ... is the HDD partitioned
 in two pieces?

Not as far as I can see in windows - just 3.2GB FAT32



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Re: Newbie install goes well until...

2004-03-11 Thread Stewart Yaxley
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Stewart Yaxley [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I am installing FreeBSD 5.2.1 on an AMD 64 3000+, w/ 512Meg RAM.

 Booting from CDROM with the Boot CD (pulled from the FTP site as an
 ISO image, burned in Win XP).

 All the necessary hardware is detected without errors, I am able to
 get as far as partioning my drives (setup root, swap, /var, /usr) and
 choose to install All from the Choose Distribution screen.

 The installation starts -- but the Boot CD returns an error Unable to
 find a /dist/cdrom.inf file, and indicates that it is unable to
 continue with the install.

 The Mini-install has the /dist/cdrom.inf file, but shortly after
 install starts I receive a Either this is not a Free-BSD disc, there
 is a problem with the CDROM driver or something is wrong with the
 hardware.  Please fix this problem (check the console logs on VTY2)
 and try again.

 I am unable to access/eject the CD drive once these errors occur
 (CDROM drive goes dead).  My CDROM is a Creative 52x CD5220 (occording
 to the Bios) and is correctly recognized by the installer.

 How do I check the console logs on VTY2? (or have I obtained a bad iso 
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Re: newbie: no route to host

2004-02-16 Thread jan . muenther
 My lan has dialup through 192.168.0.1 [delliver] which shares using ics on 
 xp. Works fine for my rh9, debian woody, and w98 boxes and used to work 
 fine on this too till I started over again.

Try

route add default 192.168.0.1

Looks you don't have a default route set, so your packets never get routed
outside. 
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Re: newbie: no route to host

2004-02-16 Thread Nathan Kinkade
On Mon, Feb 16, 2004 at 12:53:09PM -0500, Marty Landman wrote:
 Sorry, I have looked around and also am going to d/l 
 http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/ later today so once I run htdig on my local 
 doc site these sorts of things may be easier for me look up.
 
 Meantime I reinstalled fbsd 4.8 rel last week and don't know how to fix my 
 internet connection.
 
 
 %ping -c2 freebsd.org
 PING freebsd.org (216.136.204.21): 56 data bytes
 ping: sendto: No route to host
 ping: sendto: No route to host
 
 --- freebsd.org ping statistics ---
 2 packets transmitted, 0 packets received, 100% packet loss
 %
 
 My lan has dialup through 192.168.0.1 [delliver] which shares using ics on 
 xp. Works fine for my rh9, debian woody, and w98 boxes and used to work 
 fine on this too till I started over again.
 
 Also,
 
 %ifconfig -a
 ep0: flags=8843UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST mtu 1500
 inet 192.168.0.7 netmask 0xff00 broadcast 192.168.0.255
 inet6 fe80::220:afff:fe4d:24b7%ep0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x1
 ether 00:20:af:4d:24:b7
 media: Ethernet 10baseT/UTP
 lp0: flags=8810POINTOPOINT,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST mtu 1500
 faith0: flags=8002BROADCAST,MULTICAST mtu 1500
 lo0: flags=8049UP,LOOPBACK,RUNNING,MULTICAST mtu 16384
 inet6 ::1 prefixlen 128
 inet6 fe80::1%lo0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x4
 inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 0xff00
 ppp0: flags=8010POINTOPOINT,MULTICAST mtu 1500
 sl0: flags=c010POINTOPOINT,LINK2,MULTICAST mtu 552
 %
 
 
 Thanks in advance.
 
 Marty Landman   Face 2 Interface Inc 845-679-9387

Do you have a default route?  Check out, and post, your systems routing
table using the command `netstat -rn`.  If you don't have a default
route you can add one with something like:
# route add default 192.168.0.1

Then add the line:

defaultrouter=192.168.0.1

to the file /etc/rc.conf and it will automatically setup the route at
boot time.

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Re: newbie: no route to host

2004-02-16 Thread Marty Landman
At 01:01 PM 2/16/2004, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

route add default 192.168.0.1

Looks you don't have a default route set, so your packets never get routed 
outside.
Thanks Jan. That worked and the worst part is that the cmd rings a bell iow 
I did this before but didn't find it in browsing the prior emails I'd 
collected.

Tell me, now that I've done the route add has it permanently changed one or 
more of my config files? Could you please direct me to where this is 
documented so I can read up on it?

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Re: newbie problem building fetchmail from ports

2004-02-16 Thread Kevin D. Kinsey, DaleCo, S.P.
Marty Landman wrote:

Any advice on what to do here?

# cd ../../mail/fetchmail
# make build  make install  rehash  which fetchmail
 fetchmail-6.2.0.tar.gz doesn't seem to exist in /usr/ports/distfiles/.
 Attempting to fetch from http://www.catb.org/~esr/fetchmail/.
Receiving fetchmail-6.2.0.tar.gz (1089936 bytes): 100% (ETA 00:00)
1089936 bytes transferred in 1050.8 seconds (1.01 kBps)
===  Extracting for fetchmail-6.2.0
 Checksum OK for fetchmail-6.2.0.tar.gz.
===  Patching for fetchmail-6.2.0
===  Applying FreeBSD patches for fetchmail-6.2.0
===   fetchmail-6.2.0 depends on executable: gmake - not found
===Verifying install for gmake in /usr/ports/devel/gmake
===   gmake-3.80 depends on shared library: intl.4 - not found
===Verifying install for intl.4 in /usr/ports/devel/gettext
===   gettext-0.11.5_1 depends on executable: libtool - found
===   gettext-0.11.5_1 depends on shared library: iconv.3 - found
===   gettext-0.11.5_1 depends on shared library: expat.4 - found
===  Configuring for gettext-0.11.5_1
/bin/rm /usr/ports/devel/gettext/work/gettext-0.11.5/doc/gettext.info*
rm: /usr/ports/devel/gettext/work/gettext-0.11.5/doc/gettext.info*: No 
such file or directory
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/devel/gettext.
*** Error code 1


Dunno for sure.  Obviously we have a problem
with make expecting something that's not there.
It's possible that:

   1.  You should just try to install gettext first,
   and you will get more insight into the issue.
   2.  You could re-cvsup the ports tree and try
   again and it would work.
   3.  You could issue
   #touch /usr/ports/devel/gettext/work/gettext-0.11.5/doc/gettext.info
  as root and see what happens next ;-)
It's obvious that I'm grasping at straws, but if
we wait around a while, somebody smarter will
likely pipe up ...
Kevin Kinsey
DaleCo, S.P.
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Re: newbie problem building fetchmail from ports

2004-02-16 Thread Kent Stewart
On Monday 16 February 2004 11:10 am, Marty Landman wrote:
 Any advice on what to do here?

 # cd ../../mail/fetchmail
 # make build  make install  rehash  which fetchmail

   fetchmail-6.2.0.tar.gz doesn't seem to exist in
   /usr/ports/distfiles/. Attempting to fetch from
   http://www.catb.org/~esr/fetchmail/.

 Receiving fetchmail-6.2.0.tar.gz (1089936 bytes): 100% (ETA 00:00)
 1089936 bytes transferred in 1050.8 seconds (1.01 kBps)
 ===  Extracting for fetchmail-6.2.0

   Checksum OK for fetchmail-6.2.0.tar.gz.

 ===  Patching for fetchmail-6.2.0
 ===  Applying FreeBSD patches for fetchmail-6.2.0
 ===   fetchmail-6.2.0 depends on executable: gmake - not found
 ===Verifying install for gmake in /usr/ports/devel/gmake
 ===   gmake-3.80 depends on shared library: intl.4 - not found
 ===Verifying install for intl.4 in /usr/ports/devel/gettext
 ===   gettext-0.11.5_1 depends on executable: libtool - found
 ===   gettext-0.11.5_1 depends on shared library: iconv.3 - found
 ===   gettext-0.11.5_1 depends on shared library: expat.4 - found
 ===  Configuring for gettext-0.11.5_1
 /bin/rm
 /usr/ports/devel/gettext/work/gettext-0.11.5/doc/gettext.info* rm:
 /usr/ports/devel/gettext/work/gettext-0.11.5/doc/gettext.info*: No
 such file or directory
 *** Error code 1


This is hard because gettext-0.11.5 is so old that it is most likely 
anything anyone tells you is going to take time. They updated gettext 
to 12.1 last August. The current version of gettext is 0.13.1 and that 
is a massive thing to move to. You don't stand a chance of getting 11.5 
fixed but some days you might be lucky. The current version of 
fetchmail is 6.2.5_1 and you will probably have the same problem with 
suggestions.

The interface to the gettext library has changed and you have to update 
everything that uses it. You may not be able to do it without upgrading 
to one of the current system releases. I would think that it is obvious 
that you haven't updated your port tree for some time. 

A normal solution would be to tell you to cvsup ports-all, rebuild the 
INDEXs, and try to rebuild. When I did that on an AMD 1600 XP running 
5.2-current, the rebuild of most of my ports was 1-2 days. My 2400 
running 4.9-stable used about 1/3 less time. Getting current on the 
ports could be only done with a great deal of thought. You might find 
11.5 as a package and install it. That would be a lot faster than 
bringing your port system to a current configuration.

If you do that, move to using portupgrade. It makes updating much 
easier.

Kent

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Re: newbie problem building fetchmail from ports

2004-02-16 Thread Andrew L. Gould
On Monday 16 February 2004 01:39 pm, Kevin D. Kinsey, DaleCo, S.P. wrote:
 Marty Landman wrote:
  Any advice on what to do here?
 
  # cd ../../mail/fetchmail
  # make build  make install  rehash  which fetchmail
 
   fetchmail-6.2.0.tar.gz doesn't seem to exist in /usr/ports/distfiles/.
   Attempting to fetch from http://www.catb.org/~esr/fetchmail/.
 
  Receiving fetchmail-6.2.0.tar.gz (1089936 bytes): 100% (ETA 00:00)
  1089936 bytes transferred in 1050.8 seconds (1.01 kBps)
  ===  Extracting for fetchmail-6.2.0
 
   Checksum OK for fetchmail-6.2.0.tar.gz.
 
  ===  Patching for fetchmail-6.2.0
  ===  Applying FreeBSD patches for fetchmail-6.2.0
  ===   fetchmail-6.2.0 depends on executable: gmake - not found
  ===Verifying install for gmake in /usr/ports/devel/gmake
  ===   gmake-3.80 depends on shared library: intl.4 - not found
  ===Verifying install for intl.4 in /usr/ports/devel/gettext
  ===   gettext-0.11.5_1 depends on executable: libtool - found
  ===   gettext-0.11.5_1 depends on shared library: iconv.3 - found
  ===   gettext-0.11.5_1 depends on shared library: expat.4 - found
  ===  Configuring for gettext-0.11.5_1
  /bin/rm /usr/ports/devel/gettext/work/gettext-0.11.5/doc/gettext.info*
  rm: /usr/ports/devel/gettext/work/gettext-0.11.5/doc/gettext.info*: No
  such file or directory
  *** Error code 1
 
  Stop in /usr/ports/devel/gettext.
  *** Error code 1

 Dunno for sure.  Obviously we have a problem
 with make expecting something that's not there.

 It's possible that:

 1.  You should just try to install gettext first,
 and you will get more insight into the issue.

 2.  You could re-cvsup the ports tree and try
 again and it would work.

 3.  You could issue
 #touch
 /usr/ports/devel/gettext/work/gettext-0.11.5/doc/gettext.info as root and
 see what happens next ;-)

 It's obvious that I'm grasping at straws, but if
 we wait around a while, somebody smarter will
 likely pipe up ...

 Kevin Kinsey
 DaleCo, S.P.

Well, that smarter person is not me; but since the error occurs when the 
script is trying to remove a file in a ports working directory, my first wild 
guess would be to do a 'make clean' and then try again.

Best of luck,

Andrew Gould

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Re: newbie problem building fetchmail from ports

2004-02-16 Thread Lowell Gilbert
Marty Landman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Any advice on what to do here?
 
 # cd ../../mail/fetchmail
 # make build  make install  rehash  which fetchmail
   fetchmail-6.2.0.tar.gz doesn't seem to exist in /usr/ports/distfiles/.
   Attempting to fetch from http://www.catb.org/~esr/fetchmail/.
 Receiving fetchmail-6.2.0.tar.gz (1089936 bytes): 100% (ETA 00:00)
 1089936 bytes transferred in 1050.8 seconds (1.01 kBps)
 ===  Extracting for fetchmail-6.2.0
   Checksum OK for fetchmail-6.2.0.tar.gz.
 ===  Patching for fetchmail-6.2.0
 ===  Applying FreeBSD patches for fetchmail-6.2.0
 ===   fetchmail-6.2.0 depends on executable: gmake - not found
 ===Verifying install for gmake in /usr/ports/devel/gmake
 ===   gmake-3.80 depends on shared library: intl.4 - not found
 ===Verifying install for intl.4 in /usr/ports/devel/gettext
 ===   gettext-0.11.5_1 depends on executable: libtool - found
 ===   gettext-0.11.5_1 depends on shared library: iconv.3 - found
 ===   gettext-0.11.5_1 depends on shared library: expat.4 - found
 ===  Configuring for gettext-0.11.5_1
 /bin/rm /usr/ports/devel/gettext/work/gettext-0.11.5/doc/gettext.info*
 rm: /usr/ports/devel/gettext/work/gettext-0.11.5/doc/gettext.info*: No
 such file or directory
 *** Error code 1
 
 Stop in /usr/ports/devel/gettext.
 *** Error code 1
 
 Stop in /usr/ports/devel/gmake.
 *** Error code 1
 
 Stop in /usr/ports/mail/fetchmail.
 #

Where did you get your ports collection?
Did you get the gettext and fetchmail ports from the same place?

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Re: newbie problem building fetchmail from ports

2004-02-16 Thread Marty Landman
At 03:05 PM 2/16/2004, Kent Stewart wrote:

The interface to the gettext library has changed and you have to update 
everything that uses it. You may not be able to do it without upgrading to 
one of the current system releases. I would think that it is obvious that 
you haven't updated your port tree for some time.
I just reinstalled with a 4.8 mini-iso that I d/l'd back in the summer 
iirc. Maybe this helps explain some of the issues I've been plagued with 
(not including a touch of dandruff, which is more likely due to the cold 
weather here).

This is really just a learning experience for me right now, though use of 
the word 'just' seems really lame. Point is that it may be wise for me to 
d/l the latest release level mini-iso and reinstall from that. Eventually I 
may even learn what I'm doing, though I tend to doubt it.

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Re: newbie problem building fetchmail from ports

2004-02-16 Thread Marty Landman
At 02:39 PM 2/16/2004, Kevin D. Kinsey, DaleCo, S.P. wrote:

   1.  You should just try to install gettext first,and you will get 
more insight into the issue.
I did (sorry for not posting that) and the results looked identical.

   2.  You could re-cvsup the ports tree and try again and it would work.
Cool, how do I do that?

   3.  You could issue
   #touch /usr/ports/devel/gettext/work/gettext-0.11.5/doc/gettext.info
  as root and see what happens next ;-)
if we wait around a while, somebody smarter will likely pipe up ...
Know how you feel Kevin, everybody's smarter than me!

Hey btw, this worked! Thanks.

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Re: newbie problem building fetchmail from ports

2004-02-16 Thread Kevin D. Kinsey, DaleCo, S.P.
Marty Landman wrote:

At 02:39 PM 2/16/2004, Kevin D. Kinsey, DaleCo, S.P. wrote:

   3.  You could issue
   #touch 
/usr/ports/devel/gettext/work/gettext-0.11.5/doc/gettext.info
  as root and see what happens next ;-)

if we wait around a while, somebody smarter will likely pipe up ...


Know how you feel Kevin, everybody's smarter than me!

Hey btw, this worked! Thanks.


Heh, that's a terrible hack !, but I'm glad you
are up and running
BTW the somebody smarter weighed in on the age
of your ports tree,  you oughtta give what he said
some serious thought.
Kevin Kinsey
DaleCo, S.P.
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Re: newbie problem building fetchmail from ports

2004-02-16 Thread Matthew Seaman
On Mon, Feb 16, 2004 at 02:10:11PM -0500, Marty Landman wrote:
 Any advice on what to do here?

 ===  Configuring for gettext-0.11.5_1

That's an ancient version of gettext -- are you using a copy of the
ports tree you got from the installation CDs?  At a guess, you're
running FreeBSD 4.7...

Current version of gettext in ports is gettext-0.13.1 which provides
libintl.so.6 Come to think of it, fetchmail is now at version 6.2.5 in
ports so you must be using an old ports tree.  However so long as all
the sources are still available for download, you should be able to
install.

The problem appears to be due to this target in the devel/gettext port
Makefile:

pre-configure:
${RM} ${WRKSRC}/doc/gettext.info*

which was removed with version 1.42 of the port Makefile -- you, I
suspect have version 1.38.  You could try just editing the Makefile to
change those lines to:

pre-configure:
-${RM} ${WRKSRC}/doc/gettext.info*

(ie. insert a '-' before the ${RM}) -- that will cause make to ignore
any error code produced by trying to remove some files that weren't
actually there in the first place.

Cheers,

Matthew

PS. If you're tempted to update your whole ports tree to the latest,
you should be aware that there have been some incompatible changes in
the pkg_foo tools which will cause you grief on a 4.7 system.  There's
a sysutils/pkg_install port you can install to help things out.  Most
things should work OK, but you'ld have to upgrade the system to a
supported version to be sure (ie. 4.9 or 5.2).

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Re: newbie problem building fetchmail from ports

2004-02-16 Thread Kent Stewart
On Monday 16 February 2004 12:39 pm, Marty Landman wrote:
 At 03:05 PM 2/16/2004, Kent Stewart wrote:
 The interface to the gettext library has changed and you have to
  update everything that uses it. You may not be able to do it
  without upgrading to one of the current system releases. I would
  think that it is obvious that you haven't updated your port tree
  for some time.

 I just reinstalled with a 4.8 mini-iso that I d/l'd back in the
 summer iirc. Maybe this helps explain some of the issues I've been
 plagued with (not including a touch of dandruff, which is more likely
 due to the cold weather here).

You could try the pkg_add -r feature which will fetch the proper version 
for your current system. 


 This is really just a learning experience for me right now, though
 use of the word 'just' seems really lame. Point is that it may be
 wise for me to d/l the latest release level mini-iso and reinstall
 from that. Eventually I may even learn what I'm doing, though I tend
 to doubt it.


hehehe - my way of looking at things is that anyone can be an expert at 
something on a computer. In addition, no matter how good you get, you 
will still have embarassing holes that will be pointed out to you in a 
public forum :). You are getting there when you can do something really 
dumb and laugh at what you did :).

Well, if you are going to learn about cvsup, you might as well learn 
about making your system current at the same time. The current safe tag 
for cvsup is RELENG_4_9. I follow RELENG_4, which is stable. There are 
examples you can use once you install cvsup. I happen to like 
cvsup-without-gui-16.1h, which is 1 of 2 ports that I suggest should be 
installed as a port. Going from 4.8 to 4.9 with the security patches is 
not a big deal. If you screw things up, you can always install from the 
iso. The suggested way of updating is in /usr/src/UPDATING and a 
chapter in the handbook is also devoted to the subjec.

I typically don't talk about the mini-iso. The iso comes with most of 
the ports you might be interested in as packages. They are out of date 
as soon as you install them but you have a working system almost 
immediately. If you cvsup ports-all, build the indexs, and use 
portupgrade to move to a current port environment, you have a lot more 
work ahead of you.

Getting current on the ports is something I think you should do but one 
step at a time is a good idea :). Maintaining your system isn't a big 
deal, you just have to be able to be consistant.

Kent

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Re: newbie problem building fetchmail from ports

2004-02-16 Thread Marty Landman
At 04:04 PM 2/16/2004, Kent Stewart wrote:

You could try the pkg_add -r feature which will fetch the proper version 
for your current system.
I did, but couldn't find the port -- guess I'm mixing agp slots and eide's?

So I'm make'ing it from the tar.gz already had.

hehehe - my way of looking at things is that anyone can be an expert at 
something on a computer.
Wow Kent, you're absolutely right; that's what first attracted me to these 
critters back in college.

In addition, no matter how good you get, you will still have embarassing 
holes that will be pointed out to you in a
public forum :).
Yes, there's always that.

I typically don't talk about the mini-iso.
Hmm, maybe I should finally break down and order the cd set for the latest 
release - since I don't plan on switching to cable anytime soon and have 
about run out of favors from neighbors who have it already. Then again :)

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Re: Newbie Questions Regarding SU Command Running Periodic Updating

2004-02-15 Thread Matthew Seaman
On Sun, Feb 15, 2004 at 10:20:12AM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Question # 1:
 
 When I type 'su' and subsequently type in my password, I am taken to the
 root. However, certain programs; i.e., 'portupgrade' will not run. If I then
 subsequently type 'su' I a, presented with a new prompt although no password
 is requested. I can now run programs like 'portupgrade' without incident. I
 am unable to find any documentation that states I should be running the 'su'
 command twice. Can someone explain to me what is happening here? Is this
 normal. Exactly how many levels are there? I thought that there were only
 two: the log in level and root level. Is there a third level or is this some
 sort of fluke.

Yes.  You're right that there are only the two privilege levels --
root vs ordinary users.  What you're seeing is due to a different
effect.  The first time you su(1) you become root, but your shell
environment is not set up the way you expect.  Specifically you don't
have /usr/local/sbin on your $PATH, so when you type 'portupgrade' at
the prompt, the shell can't find the executable.  You should be able
to type '/usr/local/sbin/portupgrade' and have things work as
expected.

The second time you type su(1), it takes effect without asking for a
password, since the super user can become any other user without
giving one.  However, changing from root to root normally isn't
usually very productive.

Usually when you su(1), the shell environment is left the same except
for the USER, HOME and SHELL environment variables, which are reset
appropriately for the new userid.  However, settings in the target
login's .cshrc or .profile or .bashrc or whatever will take effect
exactly as for starting up any new shell.  There are some flags to
su(1) to modify that behaviour: '-l' (or just '-') says simulate a
full login by the target user, and '-m' does the opposite -- leaving
the original environment unmodified.

My guess is that the behaviour you are seeing is because either the
su(1) command is aliased to add in some other options, or that you
have something in root's shell initialization files which is causing
the effect.

On general principles, I'd recommend you to install and use sudo(8)
instead of su(1) -- it has much finer grained access controls, you
don't need to give out the root password in order to let people run
commands with root privilege and it logs everything done with it.
 
 Question # 2:
 
 Second, while typing in search terms in Google, I came across this web site
 - http://andrsn.stanford.edu/FreeBSD/newuser.html
 
 You will notice the entry about updating the database for the 'whereis' and
 'locate' commands. I have read the manual on 'locate' and tried running the
 files mentioned manually, but alias all I receive is an error message that
 the command does not exist. Again, I have no idea what I am doing
 incorrectly. Any assistance would be appreciated.

The database update will happen automatically, overnight, in the wee
small hours of Saturday morning.  So long as you leave you machine
running, that is.

You can manually update the 'locate' database by running (as root):

# /etc/periodic/weekly/310.locate

and similarly for whereis:

# /etc/periodic/weekly/320.whatis

Those should run without errors -- if you still have problems, please
feel free to e-mail here again, including the exact output of running
those commands.

Cheers,

Matthew

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Re: Newbie Upgrading 4.8 - 5.2, filesystem full

2004-02-11 Thread Jez Hancock
On Wed, Feb 11, 2004 at 08:16:30AM +1100, richard wrote:
 Migrating data will be problematic as there's lot of user cr*p and custom
 built web apps from generations of cowboy programmers, plus about 300 users
 and a couple of dozen virtual domains.
 
 As I'm really only after a stable implementation of a USB external drive
 (for backup) am I better off trying an upgrade from 4.8 to 4.9?

Sounds like you're in a very similar situation to me :P

In answer to the question, I would have thought so.

If you're just interested in trying out 5.x for the heck of it (there
isn't a specific reason for upgrading), you're probably better of
installing it on a dev box perhaps - if that's possible.

I'm amazed you have that many users but haven't managed to fill up /var
yet with it being so small!


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
 Of Lowell Gilbert
 Sent: Wednesday, 11 February 2004 1:38 AM
 To: Jez Hancock
 Cc: Richard Beyer; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: Newbie Upgrading 4.8 - 5.2, filesystem full
 
 Jez Hancock [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  On Tue, Feb 10, 2004 at 08:10:05PM +1100, Richard Beyer wrote:
   Thanks Jez,
   
   Here's my df -h
   FilesystemSize   Used  Avail Capacity  Mounted on
   /dev/ad0s1a   126M   106M   9.4M92%/
   /dev/ad0s1f   252M   9.6M   222M 4%/tmp
   /dev/ad0s1g72G   2.7G64G 4%/usr
   /dev/ad0s1e   252M51M   181M22%/var
   procfs4.0K   4.0K 0B   100%/proc
   
   
   It's an 80Gig HDD and I was using the sysinstall | upgrade | all |
 include
   ports
  
  Seems odd that so much space is taken up by / - perhaps under 5.x more
  space is required?  I really do need to install 5.x at some point ... :P
 
 Yes, more space is used in the root filesystem for 5.x.  [For 
 several different reasons...]  
 
  Can you not do a backup of your data and start over with a fresh install
  of 5.2?  You have stacks of room on the hdd spare, so presumably doing
  this wouldn't be too problematic.
 
 That's definitely the way to go if possible; there are a number of
 advantagious new features that will be difficult to take advantage 
 of otherwise. 



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RE: Newbie Upgrading 4.8 - 5.2, filesystem full

2004-02-11 Thread richard
I moved all the mail files to /usr/mail and sym-linked it to /var/mail.  No
problems with space.

I've given up on the 5.2 upgrade, now I'm trying a 4.8 - 4.9 upgrade and the
first attempt failed with an odd message - Couldn't even extract the bin
distribution, consider this upgrade a failure.

Anyone else ever seen this?

Cheers,
Richard


-Original Message-
From: Jez Hancock [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jez Hancock
Sent: Wednesday, 11 February 2004 9:53 PM
To: richard
Cc: FreeBSD Questions List
Subject: Re: Newbie Upgrading 4.8 - 5.2, filesystem full

On Wed, Feb 11, 2004 at 08:16:30AM +1100, richard wrote:
 Migrating data will be problematic as there's lot of user cr*p and custom
 built web apps from generations of cowboy programmers, plus about 300
users
 and a couple of dozen virtual domains.
 
 As I'm really only after a stable implementation of a USB external drive
 (for backup) am I better off trying an upgrade from 4.8 to 4.9?

Sounds like you're in a very similar situation to me :P

In answer to the question, I would have thought so.

If you're just interested in trying out 5.x for the heck of it (there
isn't a specific reason for upgrading), you're probably better of
installing it on a dev box perhaps - if that's possible.

I'm amazed you have that many users but haven't managed to fill up /var
yet with it being so small!


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
 Of Lowell Gilbert
 Sent: Wednesday, 11 February 2004 1:38 AM
 To: Jez Hancock
 Cc: Richard Beyer; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: Newbie Upgrading 4.8 - 5.2, filesystem full
 
 Jez Hancock [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  On Tue, Feb 10, 2004 at 08:10:05PM +1100, Richard Beyer wrote:
   Thanks Jez,
   
   Here's my df -h
   FilesystemSize   Used  Avail Capacity  Mounted on
   /dev/ad0s1a   126M   106M   9.4M92%/
   /dev/ad0s1f   252M   9.6M   222M 4%/tmp
   /dev/ad0s1g72G   2.7G64G 4%/usr
   /dev/ad0s1e   252M51M   181M22%/var
   procfs4.0K   4.0K 0B   100%/proc
   
   
   It's an 80Gig HDD and I was using the sysinstall | upgrade | all |
 include
   ports
  
  Seems odd that so much space is taken up by / - perhaps under 5.x more
  space is required?  I really do need to install 5.x at some point ... :P
 
 Yes, more space is used in the root filesystem for 5.x.  [For 
 several different reasons...]  
 
  Can you not do a backup of your data and start over with a fresh install
  of 5.2?  You have stacks of room on the hdd spare, so presumably doing
  this wouldn't be too problematic.
 
 That's definitely the way to go if possible; there are a number of
 advantagious new features that will be difficult to take advantage 
 of otherwise. 



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Re: Newbie Upgrading 4.8 - 5.2, filesystem full

2004-02-10 Thread Jez Hancock
On Tue, Feb 10, 2004 at 12:36:27PM +1100, Richard Beyer wrote:
 I tried doing an upgrade from 4.8 to 5.2, and part way through I got a
 filesystem full error (about 3 in a row actually) as each partion filled
 up.  (No panic - doing it off a mirror).
 
 My question is - obviously the CDROM sysinstall isn't going to work for me
 - what now?
Get a bigger hard drive? :P

More details might help - how big is the disk drive you're installing
to?  How big are the partitions created in the install process?  What
type of installation are you attempting - full/minimal/etc ?

The minimal installation takes up very little room - around 3-400MB iirc
which should be small enough to fit on any hdd manufactured in the last
5 years or so.


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Re: Newbie Upgrading 4.8 - 5.2, filesystem full

2004-02-10 Thread Richard Beyer
Thanks Jez,

Here's my df -h
FilesystemSize   Used  Avail Capacity  Mounted on
/dev/ad0s1a   126M   106M   9.4M92%/
/dev/ad0s1f   252M   9.6M   222M 4%/tmp
/dev/ad0s1g72G   2.7G64G 4%/usr
/dev/ad0s1e   252M51M   181M22%/var
procfs4.0K   4.0K 0B   100%/proc


It's an 80Gig HDD and I was using the sysinstall | upgrade | all | include
ports

Cheers,
Richard


On Tue, 10 Feb 2004, Jez Hancock wrote:

 On Tue, Feb 10, 2004 at 12:36:27PM +1100, Richard Beyer wrote:
  I tried doing an upgrade from 4.8 to 5.2, and part way through I got a
  filesystem full error (about 3 in a row actually) as each partion filled
  up.  (No panic - doing it off a mirror).
 
  My question is - obviously the CDROM sysinstall isn't going to work for me
  - what now?
 Get a bigger hard drive? :P

 More details might help - how big is the disk drive you're installing
 to?  How big are the partitions created in the install process?  What
 type of installation are you attempting - full/minimal/etc ?

 The minimal installation takes up very little room - around 3-400MB iirc
 which should be small enough to fit on any hdd manufactured in the last
 5 years or so.


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Re: Newbie Upgrading 4.8 - 5.2, filesystem full

2004-02-10 Thread Jez Hancock
Hi Richard,

On Tue, Feb 10, 2004 at 08:10:05PM +1100, Richard Beyer wrote:
 Thanks Jez,
 
 Here's my df -h
 FilesystemSize   Used  Avail Capacity  Mounted on
 /dev/ad0s1a   126M   106M   9.4M92%/
 /dev/ad0s1f   252M   9.6M   222M 4%/tmp
 /dev/ad0s1g72G   2.7G64G 4%/usr
 /dev/ad0s1e   252M51M   181M22%/var
 procfs4.0K   4.0K 0B   100%/proc
 
 
 It's an 80Gig HDD and I was using the sysinstall | upgrade | all | include
 ports

Seems odd that so much space is taken up by / - perhaps under 5.x more
space is required?  I really do need to install 5.x at some point ... :P

Is there no chance you can perform a standard install from scratch?  I
had contemplated moving from 4.8 to 5.x, but am seriously putting it
off because I imagine *upgrading* from 4.x to 5.x isn't too
straight-forward - perhaps others could shed light on whether it's
recommended to attempt it or not?

Can you not do a backup of your data and start over with a fresh install
of 5.2?  You have stacks of room on the hdd spare, so presumably doing
this wouldn't be too problematic.

 
 Cheers,
 Richard
 
 
 On Tue, 10 Feb 2004, Jez Hancock wrote:
 
  On Tue, Feb 10, 2004 at 12:36:27PM +1100, Richard Beyer wrote:
   I tried doing an upgrade from 4.8 to 5.2, and part way through I got a
   filesystem full error (about 3 in a row actually) as each partion filled
   up.  (No panic - doing it off a mirror).
  
   My question is - obviously the CDROM sysinstall isn't going to work for me
   - what now?
  Get a bigger hard drive? :P
 
  More details might help - how big is the disk drive you're installing
  to?  How big are the partitions created in the install process?  What
  type of installation are you attempting - full/minimal/etc ?
 
  The minimal installation takes up very little room - around 3-400MB iirc
  which should be small enough to fit on any hdd manufactured in the last
  5 years or so.
 
 
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Re: Newbie Upgrading 4.8 - 5.2, filesystem full

2004-02-10 Thread Danny Pansters
On Tuesday 10 February 2004 10:10, Richard Beyer wrote:
 Thanks Jez,

 Here's my df -h
 FilesystemSize   Used  Avail Capacity  Mounted on
 /dev/ad0s1a   126M   106M   9.4M92%/
 /dev/ad0s1f   252M   9.6M   222M 4%/tmp
 /dev/ad0s1g72G   2.7G64G 4%/usr
 /dev/ad0s1e   252M51M   181M22%/var
 procfs4.0K   4.0K 0B   100%/proc


 It's an 80Gig HDD and I was using the sysinstall | upgrade | all | include
 ports

I run 5.2.1-REL. Here are some differences:

4.x: kernel and modules reside in /kernel and /modules, there's a /standl 
around

5.x: kernel and modules reside in /boot/kernel, there's a /rescue replacing 
the old /stand (sysinstall in /usr/sbin now)

So, if you delete old 4.x kernel(s) and modules and nuke /stand if you don't 
want it anymore you should probably be able to free some space. 5.x also uses 
somewhat more space in / but the difference isn't that much:
   
Filesystem   1K-blocksUsedAvail Capacity  Mounted on
/dev/ad0s1a 253678   54124   17926023%/

most of this is in /boot:

%du /boot
18  /boot/defaults
16586   /boot/kernel
1732/boot/modules -- appears that the nvidia module sits here, weird..
16602   /boot/kernel.old
35816   /boot


HTH,

Dan

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Re: Newbie Upgrading 4.8 - 5.2, filesystem full

2004-02-10 Thread Lowell Gilbert
Jez Hancock [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 On Tue, Feb 10, 2004 at 08:10:05PM +1100, Richard Beyer wrote:
  Thanks Jez,
  
  Here's my df -h
  FilesystemSize   Used  Avail Capacity  Mounted on
  /dev/ad0s1a   126M   106M   9.4M92%/
  /dev/ad0s1f   252M   9.6M   222M 4%/tmp
  /dev/ad0s1g72G   2.7G64G 4%/usr
  /dev/ad0s1e   252M51M   181M22%/var
  procfs4.0K   4.0K 0B   100%/proc
  
  
  It's an 80Gig HDD and I was using the sysinstall | upgrade | all | include
  ports
 
 Seems odd that so much space is taken up by / - perhaps under 5.x more
 space is required?  I really do need to install 5.x at some point ... :P

Yes, more space is used in the root filesystem for 5.x.  [For 
several different reasons...]  

 Can you not do a backup of your data and start over with a fresh install
 of 5.2?  You have stacks of room on the hdd spare, so presumably doing
 this wouldn't be too problematic.

That's definitely the way to go if possible; there are a number of
advantagious new features that will be difficult to take advantage 
of otherwise. 
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RE: Newbie Upgrading 4.8 - 5.2, filesystem full

2004-02-10 Thread richard
Migrating data will be problematic as there's lot of user cr*p and custom
built web apps from generations of cowboy programmers, plus about 300 users
and a couple of dozen virtual domains.

As I'm really only after a stable implementation of a USB external drive
(for backup) am I better off trying an upgrade from 4.8 to 4.9?

Cheers,
Richard

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Subject: Re: Newbie Upgrading 4.8 - 5.2, filesystem full

Jez Hancock [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 On Tue, Feb 10, 2004 at 08:10:05PM +1100, Richard Beyer wrote:
  Thanks Jez,
  
  Here's my df -h
  FilesystemSize   Used  Avail Capacity  Mounted on
  /dev/ad0s1a   126M   106M   9.4M92%/
  /dev/ad0s1f   252M   9.6M   222M 4%/tmp
  /dev/ad0s1g72G   2.7G64G 4%/usr
  /dev/ad0s1e   252M51M   181M22%/var
  procfs4.0K   4.0K 0B   100%/proc
  
  
  It's an 80Gig HDD and I was using the sysinstall | upgrade | all |
include
  ports
 
 Seems odd that so much space is taken up by / - perhaps under 5.x more
 space is required?  I really do need to install 5.x at some point ... :P

Yes, more space is used in the root filesystem for 5.x.  [For 
several different reasons...]  

 Can you not do a backup of your data and start over with a fresh install
 of 5.2?  You have stacks of room on the hdd spare, so presumably doing
 this wouldn't be too problematic.

That's definitely the way to go if possible; there are a number of
advantagious new features that will be difficult to take advantage 
of otherwise. 
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Re: newbie:/usr/ports/distfiles

2004-02-06 Thread Jez Hancock
On Fri, Feb 06, 2004 at 05:21:22PM -0500, Jeff Elkins wrote:
 I'm up to about 700Mb of files in /usr/ports/distfiles. Other than insurance 
 in case of a re-install, is there a good reason to keep them around? 

No, you can safely delete anything in /usr/ports/distfiles or remove and
recreate the directory.  It just means that if you decide to reinstall a
port for some reason, the source tarball will be downloaded again to
/usr/ports/distfiles - as you know anyway by the sounds of it.

:P

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Re: newbie:/usr/ports/distfiles

2004-02-06 Thread Julien Gabel
 I'm up to about 700Mb of files in /usr/ports/distfiles. Other than
 insurance in case of a re-install, is there a good reason to keep
 them around?

 No, you can safely delete anything in /usr/ports/distfiles or remove
 and recreate the directory.  It just means that if you decide to
 reinstall a port for some reason, the source tarball will be
 downloaded again to /usr/ports/distfiles - as you know anyway by the
 sounds of it.

If you have installed portupgrade(1), you can use the portsclean(1)
command to clean your ports:

  # portsclean -C
  # portsclean -D
  # portsclean -DD
  # portsclean -L
  # portsclean -P

Look at the '-D' and '-DD' for /usr/ports/distfiles in particular.
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Re: newbie:/usr/ports/distfiles

2004-02-06 Thread Jeff Elkins
On Friday 06 February 2004 5:28 pm, Jez Hancock wrote:
 On Fri, Feb 06, 2004 at 05:21:22PM -0500, Jeff Elkins wrote:
  I'm up to about 700Mb of files in /usr/ports/distfiles. Other than
  insurance in case of a re-install, is there a good reason to keep them
  around?

 No, you can safely delete anything in /usr/ports/distfiles or remove and
 recreate the directory.  It just means that if you decide to reinstall a
 port for some reason, the source tarball will be downloaded again to
 /usr/ports/distfiles - as you know anyway by the sounds of it.

 :P

Thanks. I suspected I could nuke distfiles, but being a BSD newbie I wanted to 
check first.

Jeff

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Re: Newbie trying to build a new world

2004-02-05 Thread Mike Maltese
 config: /usr/src/sys/i386/conf/MOAK:274: syntax error

This means you have an error on line 274 of your kernel configuration file.
Since line 274 is options PNPBIOS, I'm guessing that this option is
deprecated and/or unavailable in 5.X.

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Re: Newbie trying to build a new world

2004-02-05 Thread Kent Stewart
On Thursday 05 February 2004 03:15 am, Nicolas wrote:
 Hello.
 I am a newbie trying to build a new kernel. I have been following the
 handbook step by step but I still do something wrong. I copied
 GENERIC and did some changes and called my new kernel MOAK. I put it
 into /root/kernels and typed: ln -s /root/kernels/MOAK
  I cvsuped src all and ports all.
 Then and did: make -j4 buildworld.
  No problem.
 Then I rebooted and went into single user mode and typed:
 make buildkernel KERNCONF=MOAK.
 Then I get this output:
 config: /usr/src/sys/i386/conf/MOAK:274: syntax error
 Error code 1
 stop in /usr/src
 error code 1
 Stop in /usr/src
 Is there something wrong in MOAK (see attachment)???
 Hope that somebody can offer me some help.
 Many thanks Nicolas

Well, it is telling you that it doesn't like the options PNPBIOS. That 
is an option for 4.x. For right now, I would just comment it out.

BTW, booting to single user mode to build the kernel doesn't help. You 
want to do that when you do the installworld. Part of the reason for 
booting to single user mode is to test the new kernel and you haven't 
installed it at this point.

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Re: Newbie trying to build a new world

2004-02-05 Thread Nelis Lamprecht
On Thu, 2004-02-05 at 13:15, Nicolas wrote:
 Hello.
 I am a newbie trying to build a new kernel. I have been following the handbook 
 step by step but I still do something wrong. I copied GENERIC and did some 
 changes and called my new kernel MOAK. I put it into /root/kernels and typed:
 ln -s /root/kernels/MOAK

if that's all you typed then it's incorrect. Try:

ln -s /root/kernels/MOAK /usr/src/sys/i386/conf/MOAK

which basically just creates a shortcut to the original file residing in
/root/kernels.

  I cvsuped src all and ports all.
 Then and did: make -j4 buildworld.
  No problem. 

good.

 Then I rebooted and went into single user mode and typed: 
 make buildkernel KERNCONF=MOAK.

that's fine, though the only time you really should boot into single
user mode is when you doing a install world. Doesn't hurt though.

  
 Then I get this output:
 config: /usr/src/sys/i386/conf/MOAK:274: syntax error
 Error code 1
 stop in /usr/src
 error code 1
 Stop in /usr/src

see above.

 Is there something wrong in MOAK (see attachment)???
 Hope that somebody can offer me some help. 
 Many thanks Nicolas

you may also want to read /usr/src/UPDATING

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Re: Newbie trying to build a new world

2004-02-05 Thread Nelis Lamprecht
whoops, I misread your error, scratch my message...sorry.

On Thu, 2004-02-05 at 13:38, Nelis Lamprecht wrote:
 On Thu, 2004-02-05 at 13:15, Nicolas wrote:
  Hello.
  I am a newbie trying to build a new kernel. I have been following the handbook 
  step by step but I still do something wrong. I copied GENERIC and did some 
  changes and called my new kernel MOAK. I put it into /root/kernels and typed:
  ln -s /root/kernels/MOAK
 
 if that's all you typed then it's incorrect. Try:
 
 ln -s /root/kernels/MOAK /usr/src/sys/i386/conf/MOAK
 
 which basically just creates a shortcut to the original file residing in
 /root/kernels.
 
   I cvsuped src all and ports all.
  Then and did: make -j4 buildworld.
   No problem. 
 
 good.
 
  Then I rebooted and went into single user mode and typed: 
  make buildkernel KERNCONF=MOAK.
 
 that's fine, though the only time you really should boot into single
 user mode is when you doing a install world. Doesn't hurt though.
 
   
  Then I get this output:
  config: /usr/src/sys/i386/conf/MOAK:274: syntax error
  Error code 1
  stop in /usr/src
  error code 1
  Stop in /usr/src
 
 see above.
 
  Is there something wrong in MOAK (see attachment)???
  Hope that somebody can offer me some help. 
  Many thanks Nicolas
 
 you may also want to read /usr/src/UPDATING
 
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Re: Newbie trying to build a new world

2004-02-05 Thread Ion-Mihai Tetcu
On Thu, 5 Feb 2004 12:15:16 +0100
Nicolas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hello.
 I am a newbie trying to build a new kernel. I have been following the handbook 
 step by step but I still do something wrong. I copied GENERIC and did some 
 changes and called my new kernel MOAK. I put it into /root/kernels and typed:
 ln -s /root/kernels/MOAK
  I cvsuped src all and ports all.
 Then and did: make -j4 buildworld.
  No problem. 
 Then I rebooted and went into single user mode and typed: 
 make buildkernel KERNCONF=MOAK.

No need to build kernel in single user.
 
 Then I get this output:
 config: /usr/src/sys/i386/conf/MOAK:274: syntax error
 Error code 1
 stop in /usr/src
 error code 1
 Stop in /usr/src
 Is there something wrong in MOAK (see attachment)???

A lot.

 #options   FFS #Berkeley Fast Filesystem
 optionsSOFTUPDATES #Enable FFS soft updates support

What type of file system will you be using ? FFS=Berkeley Fast
Filesystem it our fs and SOFTUPDATES, UFS_ACL require FFS

 optionsUFS_ACL #Support for access control lists
 #options   UFS_DIRHASH #Improve performance on big directories

I would keep this also.

 #options   PROCFS  #Process filesystem (requires PSEUDOFS)
 #options   PSEUDOFS#Pseudo-filesystem framework

I think you want also this (or you can load the /boot/kernel/
appropriate .ko)

 # Debugging for use in -current
 #options   DDB #Enable the kernel debugger
 #options   INVARIANTS  #Enable calls of extra sanity checking
 optionsINVARIANT_SUPPORT   #Extra sanity checks of internal structures, 
required by INVARIANTS

Use also INVARIANTS if you want this.

 # Pseudo devices - the number indicates how many units to allocate.
 #devicerandom  # Entropy device

99.9% you do need random

 device loop# Network loopback
 #deviceether   # Ethernet support

Also this for networking.

 #devicepty # Pseudo-ttys (telnet etc)

Probably this.

 #devicemd  # Memory disks

If you want MDROOT you probably want this to.

 # USB support
 device uhci# UHCI PCI-USB interface
 device ohci# OHCI PCI-USB interface
 device usb # USB Bus (required)
 #deviceudbp# USB Double Bulk Pipe devices
 #deviceugen# Generic
 #deviceuhid# Human Interface Devices
 #deviceukbd# Keyboard
 #deviceulpt# Printer
 #deviceumass   # Disks/Mass storage - Requires scbus and da
 #deviceums # Mouse
 #deviceurio# Diamond Rio 500 MP3 player
 #deviceuscanner# Scanners
 # USB Ethernet, requires mii
 #deviceaue # ADMtek USB ethernet
 #deviceaxe # ASIX Electronics USB ethernet
 #devicecue # CATC USB ethernet
 #devicekue # Kawasaki LSI USB ethernet

 # FireWire support
 device firewire# FireWire bus code

I have the feeling you want also scbus and da for this, not sure.

 #Sound
 device  pcm

You could load the appropriate .ko for your sound card.

 options PNPBIOS

You don't need PNPBIOS in 5.x, despite the handbook.


 Hope that somebody can offer me some help. 
 Many thanks Nicolas
 


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RE: Newbie trying to build a new world

2004-02-05 Thread Nicolas
Thank you all for answering. I tried all your solutions and I got one step 
further. I tried to:
ln -s /root/kernels/MOAK /usr/src/sys/i386/conf/MOAK
and got the answer that the file exists.
I changed settings in MOAK.
Then i ran:
make installkernel KERNCONF=MOAK
and it worked. But then I ran:
make buildkernel KERNCONF=MOAK
and I got this on my screen (last rows):
install -p -m 555 -o root -g wheel kernel /boot/kernel
install: /boot/kernel/kernel: Read-only file system
Error code 71
Stop in /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/MOAK
Error code 1
stop in /usr/src
error code 1
Thank you again Nicolas

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Re: Newbie trying to build a new world

2004-02-05 Thread Ion-Mihai Tetcu
On Thu, 5 Feb 2004 18:13:50 +0100
Nicolas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hello again. Sorry to bother you with this but I really dont know what went 
 wrong this time. Ive done it on my old computer with 4,9 and it went smothe. 
 This is the sequence that I followed:
 cd /usr/obj
 rm -Rf *
 cd /usr/src
 make buildworld
 
 Then:
 cd /usr/src
 make buildkernel KERNCONF=MOAK

If you didn't reboot or drop to single user, the next step is bad.
 
 Then:
 fsck -p
 mount -u /
 mount -a -t ufs
 swapon -a


 cd /usr/src
 make installworld
 
 make installkernel KERNCONF=MOAK
 
 It is hard following the order in the handbook

Nop. First you intallkernel, then you reboot, then from single user installworld.

Note that the ultimate reference for all this is /usr/src/UPDATING; if
something is told there, follow it. READ IT. Read it again. Follow it.

 I think it is a bit confusing 
 to read.
 In my last mail I wrote it in the wrong order.

Could be. But perhaps you should take a little pause, drink a coffee,
etc. and retry a little later; often one makes the same mistakes again
and again when tired; experience speaking ;)

Second suggestion - print this and follow it (if it doesn't conflict
with UPDATING, I don't know from what to what you are upgrading):

cd /usr/obj
chflags -R noschg *
rm -Rf *

cd /usr/src  make clean all

script /tmp/build_kernel_1
make buildkernel KERNCONF=GENERIC  touch /tmp/done_Build_Kernel_G
make installkernel KERNCONF=GENERIC  touch /tmp/done_Install_Kernel_G
CTRL+D

if it breaks until here you have a problem with your sources; cvsup.

reboot

if everithing seems to be OK:

script /tmp/mergemaster_p
mergemaster -p
CTRL+D

script /tmp/build_w
cd /usr/src
make buildworld  touch /tmp/done_Build_World
make buildkernel KERNCONF=MOAK  touch /tmp/done_Build_Kernel
make installkernel KERNCONF=MOAK  touch /tmp/done_Install_Kernel
CTRL+D

reboot in single user
fsck -p
mount -u /
mount -a -t ufs
swapon -a

if needed (you don't have the BIOS clock on UTC) also :
adjkerntz -i

script /tmp/install_w
make installworld
CTRL+D

reboot

script /tmp/build_w
maergemaster
CTRL+D

Of course, heaven only knows what exactly did you do until now; but with
script we can try to figure out what goes wrong.

The touch(1) are only to be easy to see where it breaks.


 If I try again do I have to do it all from the beginning (cvsup src and 
 ports)?

No. The hole make ... doesn't change the sources.


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Re: Newbie firewall

2004-02-02 Thread Nicolas
Vikash Badal - PCS wrote:

Greetings,

 

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Sent: 02 February 2004 12:28
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Newbie firewall
   

SNIP 
/SNIP
 

Hope that somebody wants to waste some time on my question.
Many thanks Nicolas.
   

If you have a look at /etc/rc.firewall,
under the [Cc][Ll][Ii][Ee][Nn][Tt]) config,
you will see :
   # set these to your network and netmask and ip
   net=192.0.2.0
   mask=255.255.255.0
   ip=192.0.2.1
The firewall rules are based these values.

You could try replacing the net= ...  with the network address
and ip=... with the word me
Vikash

 

Hello. Thanks for responding. I have put all the right values in net, 
mask and  ip. It was working yesterday. But then I changed in rc.conf 
and this morning it did not work. It could be the changes in rc.conf ,  
the change in ip adress or both. I will try  to put ip=me.
Thanks again.
Nicolas
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Re: Newbie firewall

2004-02-02 Thread Nicolas
Thank you again. Now it works fine.
Nicolas

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Re: Newbie firewall question

2004-01-28 Thread Vulpes Velox
On Wed, 28 Jan 2004 07:15:46 +0100
Nicolas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hello.
 I have just installed 5.2 on my machine and everything works. Now I
 am trying to configure it and I want to put up a firewall but a
 everything I read seem to refer to a dial up connection, I have a
 LAN connection.So my question(s) is: is there a difference between a
 firewall for a dial up connection and a  Lan connection.? And if so
 what is the difference, where can I read about it and is there any
 good sites to look at? I have The Complete FreeBSD, the handbook,
 Absolute FreeBSD.. I would be very grateful for some help or
 directions where to look. Many Thanks!!

Check out ipfw. Should not really matter what the connection is
over... unless you specifically want a rule to apply to a device...
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Re: Newbie firewall question

2004-01-28 Thread Peder Blom
On Wed, 28 Jan 2004 07:15:46 +0100
Nicolas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hello.
 I have just installed 5.2 on my machine and everything works. Now I am
 
 trying to configure it and I want to put up a firewall but a
 everything I read seem to refer to a dial up connection, I have a LAN
 connection.So my question(s) is: is there a difference between a
 firewall for a dial up connection and a  Lan connection.? And if so
 what is the difference, where can I read about it and is there any
 good sites to look at? I have The Complete FreeBSD, the handbook,
 Absolute FreeBSD.. I would be very grateful for some help or
 directions where to look. Many Thanks!!
 ___

If what you want is to set up a simple firewall for a standalone
computer connected via LAN to an ISP there are a number of informative
articles by Dru Lavigne on

http://www.onlamp.com/pub/ct/15

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Re: Newbie firewall question

2004-01-28 Thread K Claussen
Nicolas wrote:

I have just installed 5.2 on my machine and everything works. Now I am 
trying to configure it and I want to put up a firewall but a everything 
I read seem to refer to a dial up connection, I have a LAN connection.So 
my question(s) is: is there a difference between a firewall for a dial 
up connection and a  Lan connection.? And if so what is the difference, 
where can I read about it and is there any good sites to look at? I have 
The Complete FreeBSD, the handbook, Absolute FreeBSD..
I would be very grateful for some help or directions where to look.
Hi, Nicolas:

I just set up something similar. Not sure what kind of configuration 
that you're looking for, but here's an article that helped me a lot in 
setting up my PC. It's an article on setting up a firewall/gateway using 
PPPoE..

On a side note, setting up PPPoE in FreeBSD was infinately simpler then 
my old Linux box..

That aside, this as well as the IPFW HOWTO got me all setup and running..

http://www.unixcircle.com/features/freebsd_pppoe.php

Good luck!
Kurt
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Re: Newbie question: Imager module and p5-Imager in /usr/ports/

2004-01-27 Thread Lowell Gilbert
meimi [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

   I have tried to add Perl module Imager using CPAN. However, it failed.
 Then, I find a p5-Imager port. I think they are the same thing, isn't it?

The port includes, but is a bit more than the CPAN module; 
it also includes solutions to the problems you had 
installing the module on your own.
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Re: newbie

2004-01-26 Thread Andrew L. Gould
On Monday 26 January 2004 11:53 pm, Tommy wrote:
 this is very new to me-- I am now a Mac OS X user and extremely happy
 with it. I am also tinkering with Linux Red Hat for now.  I really
 would like to know more about FreeBSD. Hardware compatibility and such!

Here's a link to the hardware compatibility notes for 4.9, the stable branch:

http://www.freebsd.org/releases/4.9R/hardware.html

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Re: Newbie Graphic card question

2004-01-22 Thread Ion-Mihai Tetcu
On Wed, 21 Jan 2004 11:23:31 +0100
Gafgo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hello. I am trying to install v 5.2 on my new computer. I have done 
 succesful installations on my old computer where everything worked 
 perfect. My problem now is that I can´t find my graphic card when I am 
 conf Xfree86. I have a Asus (ATI) Radeon 9200 SE. When I try to start X 
 it doesn´t work, even if I try vga generic and other settings. Is it so 
 bad that I have to buy a new card or is there other sollutions?? I have 
 looked at Xfree86.org driver section and my card isn´t mentioned even in 
 their latest release.
 Hope that someone has an answer that will be cheaper than buying a new card.
 Many thanks Nicolas

http://www.xfree86.org/current/Status6.html#6


Bellow it's my X config; I'm using a Radeon 9000. The thing you are
after is: Driver ati in the Device section; or radeon might work.

Section ServerLayout
Identifier XFree86 Configured
Screen  0  Screen0 0 0
InputDeviceMouse0 CorePointer
InputDeviceKeyboard0 CoreKeyboard
EndSection

Section Files
RgbPath  /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb
ModulePath   /usr/X11R6/lib/modules
FontPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/
FontPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/
FontPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/
FontPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/
FontPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/
EndSection

Section Module
Load  dbe
#   Load  dri
Load  extmod
Load  glx
Load  record
Load  xtrap
Load  speedo
Load  type1
EndSection

Section InputDevice
Identifier  Keyboard0
Driver  keyboard
EndSection

Section InputDevice
Identifier  Mouse0
Driver  mouse
Option  Protocol auto
Option  Device /dev/sysmouse
#   Option  Buttons 
#   Option  XAxisMapping 4 5
#   Option  YAxisMapping 8 9
Option  ZAxisMapping 4 5 6 7
EndSection

Section Monitor

#DisplaySize  300   230 # mm
Identifier   Monitor0
VendorName   NOK
ModelNameNokia 447Za
ModeLine [EMAIL PROTECTED] 108.0 1152 1216 1344 1600 864 865 868 900 
+hsync +vsync
ModeLine [EMAIL PROTECTED] 78.8 1024 1040 1136 1312 768 769 772 800 
+hsync +vsync
ModeLine [EMAIL PROTECTED] 49.5 800 816 896 1056 600 601 604 625 +hsync 
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Option  DPMS
EndSection

Section Device

### Available Driver options are:-
### Values: i: integer, f: float, bool: True/False,
### string: String, freq: f Hz/kHz/MHz
### [arg]: arg optional
#Option NoAccel   # [bool]
#Option SWcursor  # [bool]
#Option Dac6Bit   # [bool]
#Option Dac8Bit   # [bool]
#Option ForcePCIMode  # [bool]
#Option CPPIOMode # [bool]
#Option CPusecTimeout # i
#Option AGPMode   # i
#Option AGPFastWrite  # [bool]
#Option AGPSize   # i
#Option RingSize  # i
#Option BufferSize# i
#Option EnableDepthMoves  # [bool]
#Option EnablePageFlip# [bool]
#Option NoBackBuffer  # [bool]
#Option PanelOff  # [bool]
#Option DDCMode   # [bool]
#Option CloneDisplay  # i
#Option CloneMode # [str]
#Option CloneHSync# [str]
#Option CloneVRefresh # [str]
#Option UseFBDev  # [bool]
#Option VideoKey  # i
Identifier  Card0
Driver  ati
VendorName  ATI Technologies Inc
BoardName   Radeon R250 If [Radeon 9000]
BusID   PCI:1:0:0
EndSection

Section Screen
Identifier Screen0
Device Card0
MonitorMonitor0
DefaultDepth24
SubSection Display
Depth 1
EndSubSection
SubSection Display
Depth 4
EndSubSection
SubSection Display
Depth 8
EndSubSection
SubSection Display
Depth 15
EndSubSection
SubSection Display
Depth 16
EndSubSection
SubSection Display
Depth 24
Modes 1152x864
EndSubSection
EndSection


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Re: Newbie question

2004-01-20 Thread Matthew Seaman
On Mon, Jan 19, 2004 at 12:37:05AM +0100, Gafgo wrote:
 Hello there! I am a newbie to FreeBSD but have read a lot of handbooks.
 I have also installed different versions on my old computer just to
 practice (incl 4.8, 4.9, 5.0, 5.1). Now I have bought a new computer and
 wanted to install 4.9 for real. But during boot up this happened:
 ad0: REAL command timeout tag=0 serv=0 - resetting
 ata0: resetting devices...
 and there it hangs. When I tried 5.1 I had no problem. Could it be a
 hardware problem??

It sounds to me as if your new machine has hardware which is supported
under 5.x but not 4.9.  That's a very good reason to install 5.2 --
caveats about early adopters notwithstanding, by all accounts 5.2 is
turning out nicely.  I'd worry about using it for a system that was
mission critical to a business (read: financial consequences if it
isn't up and running), but for a home system I think it would do very
well.

Cheers,

Matthew

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Re: Newbie question

2004-01-20 Thread Gafgo
Matthew Seaman wrote:

On Mon, Jan 19, 2004 at 12:37:05AM +0100, Gafgo wrote:
 

Hello there! I am a newbie to FreeBSD but have read a lot of handbooks.
I have also installed different versions on my old computer just to
practice (incl 4.8, 4.9, 5.0, 5.1). Now I have bought a new computer and
wanted to install 4.9 for real. But during boot up this happened:
ad0: REAL command timeout tag=0 serv=0 - resetting
ata0: resetting devices...
and there it hangs. When I tried 5.1 I had no problem. Could it be a
hardware problem??
   

It sounds to me as if your new machine has hardware which is supported
under 5.x but not 4.9.  That's a very good reason to install 5.2 --
caveats about early adopters notwithstanding, by all accounts 5.2 is
turning out nicely.  I'd worry about using it for a system that was
mission critical to a business (read: financial consequences if it
isn't up and running), but for a home system I think it would do very
well.
	Cheers,

	Matthew

 

Thank you both for your help. I´ll go for 5.2.
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Related Q: (was) Re: Newbie question

2004-01-20 Thread Gary Kline
On Tue, Jan 20, 2004 at 08:59:25AM +, Matthew Seaman wrote:
 
 It sounds to me as if your new machine has hardware which is supported
 under 5.x but not 4.9.  That's a very good reason to install 5.2 --
 caveats about early adopters notwithstanding, by all accounts 5.2 is
 turning out nicely.  I'd worry about using it for a system that was
 mission critical to a business (read: financial consequences if it
 isn't up and running), but for a home system I think it would do very
 well.
 

I'm going toput 5.2 on my new DNS server; but from scratch.
SWondering how dificult it is to upgrade from 4.[78] to 5.[latest].
Is the UPGRADING file suffieient?  I've heard the 5.X is the
cat's meow

tia,

gary
 


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Re: Related Q: (was) Re: Newbie question

2004-01-20 Thread Matthew Seaman
On Tue, Jan 20, 2004 at 10:23:57AM -0800, Gary Kline wrote:
 On Tue, Jan 20, 2004 at 08:59:25AM +, Matthew Seaman wrote:
  
  It sounds to me as if your new machine has hardware which is supported
  under 5.x but not 4.9.  That's a very good reason to install 5.2 --
  caveats about early adopters notwithstanding, by all accounts 5.2 is
  turning out nicely.  I'd worry about using it for a system that was
  mission critical to a business (read: financial consequences if it
  isn't up and running), but for a home system I think it would do very
  well.
  
 
   I'm going toput 5.2 on my new DNS server; but from scratch.
   SWondering how dificult it is to upgrade from 4.[78] to 5.[latest].
   Is the UPGRADING file suffieient?  I've heard the 5.X is the
   cat's meow

UPGRADING should be sufficient if you are an experienced user.
However, you will miss out on the ability to do various things, like
create UFS2 filesystems or repartition your drives -- the shared root
feature makes quite a difference.  I think a wipe and re-install is
generally a good idea over a major version bump, but if you can't do
that, then update in place is the next best thing.

Cheers,

Matthew

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Re: newbie question

2004-01-19 Thread Larry Rosenman


--On Monday, January 19, 2004 15:24:18 + marlon corleone 
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forgive me if ever this is a off topic, how do i create this sample
message, i want to change my motd default to this one, thanks
:##:#  :### :# :#:#  :#:#:### :###:##
:# :# :# # :# :#:# :#:#  :#:#:# :#:#  :# :#
:# :#:#  :#:# :#:# # :#  :#:#:# :#:#  :# :#
:# :#:#  :#:### :### :#:#:#:#:### :###:# :#
:# :#:#:# :#:# :#:#:#:#:#:# :#:#  :# :#
:### :#  :#:# :#:# :# :#:# :#:# :#:###:###
vi /etc/motd

edit to your hearts content.

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Re: newbie question

2004-01-19 Thread Andrew L. Gould
On Monday 19 January 2004 09:25 am, Larry Rosenman wrote:
 --On Monday, January 19, 2004 15:24:18 + marlon corleone

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  forgive me if ever this is a off topic, how do i create this sample
  message, i want to change my motd default to this one, thanks
 
  :##:#  :### :# :#:#  :#:#:### :###:##
  :# :# :# # :# :#:# :#:#  :#:#:# :#:#  :# :#
  :# :#:#  :#:# :#:# # :#  :#:#:# :#:#  :# :#
  :# :#:#  :#:### :### :#:#:#:#:### :###:# :#
  :# :#:#:# :#:# :#:#:#:#:#:# :#:#  :# :#
  :### :#  :#:# :#:# :# :#:# :#:# :#:###:###

 vi /etc/motd


 edit to your hearts content.

 LER

As /etc/motd may get overwritten during an upgrade, you may want to keep a 
backup copy somewhere.

Best regards,

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RE: newbie question

2004-01-19 Thread Didier WIROTH
You may also add this to /etc/rc.conf or it will update the version info
after every reboot:
update_motd=NO



-Original Message-
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Sent: lundi 19 janvier 2004 16:36
To: Larry Rosenman; marlon corleone; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: newbie question

On Monday 19 January 2004 09:25 am, Larry Rosenman wrote:
 --On Monday, January 19, 2004 15:24:18 + marlon corleone

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  forgive me if ever this is a off topic, how do i create this sample 
  message, i want to change my motd default to this one, thanks
 
  :##:#  :### :# :#:#  :#:#:### :###:##
  :# :# :# # :# :#:# :#:#  :#:#:# :#:#  :# :# :# :#:#  :#:# :#:# # :#  
  :#:#:# :#:#  :# :# :# :#:#  :#:### :### :#:#:#:#:### :###:# :# :# 
  :#:#:# :#:# :#:#:#:#:#:# :#:#  :# :# :### :#  :#:# :#:# :# :#:# 
  :#:# :#:###:###

 vi /etc/motd


 edit to your hearts content.

 LER

As /etc/motd may get overwritten during an upgrade, you may want to keep a
backup copy somewhere.

Best regards,

Andrew Gould

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Re: NEWBIE QUESTION

2004-01-15 Thread Rus Foster
On Thu, 15 Jan 2004, Donald Turnbull wrote:

 I'm a newbie to your OS, Does Free BSD have the KDE and Gnome GUI already
 installed? Do you have plans in making the installation more user friendly
 in the future?

cd /usr/ports
make search name=kde
cd /usr/ports/x11/kdebase3
make install

wait..

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Re: NEWBIE QUESTION

2004-01-15 Thread Scott I. Remick
On Thu, 15 Jan 2004 15:47:08 +, Donald Turnbull wrote:

 I'm a newbie to your OS, Does Free BSD have the KDE and Gnome GUI already 
 installed? 

Already installed? No. A large number people want to run FreeBSD on their
servers, and having a GUI on a server isn't usually a good or desired
thing. Another large number of people want a GUI but don't want KDE or
Gnome, so forcing this onto them would also be a disservice.

FreeBSD is partially about choice. The same as it promotes OS choice in a
world dominated by Windows, it also allows and encourages choice in its
components, notably the window manager or (in the case of Gnome and KDE)
the desktop environment. Or the use of one altogether, as in the case for
servers.

HOWEVER... it is insanely easy to install, with one command, via ports. The
ports tree is your friend, and perhaps one of FreeBSD's most notable
advantages over all other OSes. There are over 10,000 items in the ports
tree that are no more than a make clean install away. You can take a
vanilla FreeBSD install, install Gnome and have it install all it's
bazillion dependencies (and XFree86 and all ITS dependencies) all in one
swoop with a single command.

 Do you have plans in making the installation more user friendly 
 in the future?

It really isn't all that bad now. I'm guessing you'd prefer a GUI
installer, but there are a number of reasons this would Bad Idea and make
more people unhappy than the current system (again, take the case of
servers, or the ability of the current installer to work on pretty much
anything). The biggest problem people have with the FreeBSD installer is
that it is different than what they're used to. Don't condemn it because
you haven't learned the (valid) reasons for its differences, and how to
make use of it. I've spent most my computing life with Windows, but I can
blow through a FreeBSD install within 3-5 mins. Do THAT with Windows. ;-)

Welcome to FreeBSD... hope your stay is a long one!

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RE: NEWBIE QUESTION

2004-01-15 Thread Philip Payne
 I'm a newbie to your OS, Does Free BSD have the KDE and Gnome 
 GUI already 
 installed? Do you have plans in making the installation more 
 user friendly 
 in the future?

Like any newbie I heartily recommend reading through the handbook under
the documentation section of www.freebsd.org . I believe this has a good
section on installing X and selecting a window manager. Also read the
sections on updating source and buildworld, this will keep your system up to
date.

There's some good FreeBSD tutorials at http://www.onlamp.com/pub/ct/15 worth
working through.

Also, as well as ports being your friend I've found the utility
portupgrade under /usr/ports/sysutils/portupgrade highly useful for
managing my installed packages.

Lastly, this list has always been welcoming when I've asked dumb questions
and not full of trolls or people with superiority complexes unlike other
open source lists (thanks).

Good luck,
Phil.



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Re: NEWBIE QUESTION

2004-01-15 Thread Andrew L. Gould
On Thursday 15 January 2004 09:47 am, Donald Turnbull wrote:
 I'm a newbie to your OS, Does Free BSD have the KDE and Gnome GUI already
 installed? Do you have plans in making the installation more user friendly
 in the future?



 Donald M. Turnbull  MCSE, MCDBA

KDE and Gnome are on the installation CD.  During installation, you can select 
one of these as your default desktop.  The chosen default desktop will then 
be installed.

My **opinions** regarding the installation/configuration process:

(Caveat:  I am just a user, not a developer.)

1.  I think it would be very difficult to make the installation easier without 
reducing the number of options or the amount of control the user has during 
installation.  For many FreeBSD users, control is more important than ease.  
Easy Unix is called Mac OSX.  I talked my 11 year old nephew through a 
complete Mac OSX installation, including wireless access with WEP, over the 
phone.  That has to be the epitome of easy.

2.  The installation/configuration of FreeBSD is part of a newbie's learning 
curve.  That's not to say it should be looked upon as hazing or a rite of 
passage; but it requires newbies to become familiar with their hardware and 
the operating system at a level that non-IS MS Windows users are not 
accustomed.  This new level of familiarity will benefit the newbie down the 
road, particularly during his/her first emails for help.  Embrace the 
challenge!  You will not regret it.

3.  I think the installation is difficult, but manageable, if you are familiar 
with the hardware in your computer and read the available documentation prior 
to installation.  Documentation exists online and in several books available 
at retail bookstores.  (I think it is prudent for anyone/everyone who is 
installing an operating system to be familiar with their hardware and to read 
the available documentation.)

4.  Don't get overwhelmed by the entire installation process.  Plan what you 
want to do, then focus on one step at a time.

Best of luck,

Andrew Gould

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Re: newbie ports question

2003-12-06 Thread Roman Neuhauser
# [EMAIL PROTECTED] / 2003-12-03 17:46:49 -0500:
 AFAIK the subject's accurate, best I could do anyway.

Hmm, I failed to find your question in the message.

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Re: newbie ports question

2003-12-06 Thread Marty Landman
At 06:56 AM 12/6/2003, Roman Neuhauser wrote:
# [EMAIL PROTECTED] / 2003-12-03 17:46:49 -0500:
 AFAIK the subject's accurate, best I could do anyway.
Hmm, I failed to find your question in the message.
Woops, Eudora's been acting funny that way; this isn't the first time. 
Thanks for following up Roman, turns out I taught myself (finally) how to 
do makes yesterday and fixed things up. I wonder if my reply re. the email 
setup instructions running freebsd with sendmail and qpopper experienced 
the same problem since I never got a reply.

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Re: newbie source question

2003-11-29 Thread Aaron Myles Landwehr
you can /stand/sysinstall to re-enter the sysinstall menu and install
the src that way, or you can use cvsup.
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/cvsup.html
btw heres a tutorial on cvsup if the handbooks to confusing(it isn't):
http://tutorials.snaphat.com
-aaron[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 I installed the 4.8 mini iso w/o the source and would like to now install
 the source code too. How is this done, and is there a beginner's tutorial
 on working with gcc (I assume that's the standard compiler?) on fbsd?

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Re: newbie source question

2003-11-29 Thread Richard Coleman
Marty Landman wrote:

I installed the 4.8 mini iso w/o the source and would like to now 
install the source code too. How is this done, and is there a beginner's 
tutorial on working with gcc (I assume that's the standard compiler?) on 
fbsd?
Chapter 21 of the FreeBSD handbook covers most of this.  Most people 
that are tracking FreeBSD via source use the utility cvsup.  This part 
of the handbook covers this utility as well as how to build FreeBSD from 
source.  Once you've read the handbook, it's not that hard at all.

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/cutting-edge.html

Also, once you get the source, the comments inside the main Makefile 
(/usr/src/Makefile) also give the steps necessary to build from source.

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Re: newbie source question

2003-11-29 Thread Marty Landman
At 12:03 PM 11/29/2003, Aaron Myles Landwehr wrote:
you can /stand/sysinstall to re-enter the sysinstall menu and install
the src that way
Where on the sysinstall menu is this option?

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Re: newbie source question

2003-11-29 Thread Aaron Myles Landwehr
/stand/sysinstall
configure
Distributions
then select src
after that all the sources are in there. Just select what you want.
-aaron[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 At 12:03 PM 11/29/2003, Aaron Myles Landwehr wrote:
you can /stand/sysinstall to re-enter the sysinstall menu and install
the src that way

 Where on the sysinstall menu is this option?

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Re: newbie install question

2003-11-26 Thread Lowell Gilbert
Marty Landman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I've had so many truncated d/l's trying to install the Mysql server
 from the port that came with my 4.8 mini iso that I decided instead to
 d/l the mysql-max-4.0.16-unknown-freebsd4.7-i386.tar.gz from mysql.org
 and install from there. How is this done? Do I just drop the tar.gz
 into the ports dir and then make install; make build after make
 dist-clean? Which subdir does the .gz file go into?

distfiles

[man ports(7)]

Also note the -F and -R options for fetch, which is the default
program used for the downloads.
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Re: newbie install question

2003-11-26 Thread Bob Collins
On Wed, Nov 26, 2003, Lowell Gilbert wrote:
 Marty Landman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  I've had so many truncated d/l's trying to install the Mysql server
  from the port that came with my 4.8 mini iso that I decided instead to
  d/l the mysql-max-4.0.16-unknown-freebsd4.7-i386.tar.gz from mysql.org
  and install from there. How is this done? Do I just drop the tar.gz
  into the ports dir and then make install; make build after make
  dist-clean? Which subdir does the .gz file go into?
 
 distfiles
 
 [man ports(7)]
 
 Also note the -F and -R options for fetch, which is the default
 program used for the downloads.

I did mine the hard way. I grabbed that file and put into /tmp. I then
gunzipped un-tarred and configured and made. It worked, but surely the
distfiles methods is easiest.

Have you resolved the truncated downloads? I would make sure that is not
an issue prior to installing from the gz. You sure don't want the
further aggravation of some file broken while installing.
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Re: newbie install question

2003-11-26 Thread Lowell Gilbert
Bob Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I did mine the hard way. I grabbed that file and put into /tmp. I then
 gunzipped un-tarred and configured and made. It worked, but surely the
 distfiles methods is easiest.

It also means you can't use the package tools on the program should
you want to remove it in the future (or update it, etc.).
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Re: newbie install question

2003-11-26 Thread Bob Collins
On Wed, Nov 26, 2003, Lowell Gilbert wrote:
 Bob Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  I did mine the hard way. I grabbed that file and put into /tmp. I then
  gunzipped un-tarred and configured and made. It worked, but surely the
  distfiles methods is easiest.
 
 It also means you can't use the package tools on the program should
 you want to remove it in the future (or update it, etc.).

Yes, I know. I seem to have great aim when it comes to shooting myself
in the foot. ;-) Fortunately, I see no pressing need for me to upgrade
or remove MySQL, as the current config is exactly what I need.

I'll remember this for next time.

BTW, I guess I am not the only one to not be able to install MySQL from
ports. I have tried on three different machines all running 4.9 and it
never worked. Go figure.

Bob
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