[Freedos-devel] Updating the FreeDOS website

2023-12-11 Thread Jim Hall via Freedos-devel
The last time we made a major update to the FreeDOS website was maybe ten years or so. Things are definitely feeling a bit dated, such as certain design elements. And over time, we've added content where it seemed to "fit" so the usability has degraded since the last update. I have been

[Freedos-devel] Question about USBDOS license

2023-11-29 Thread Jim Hall via Freedos-devel
Someone else asked me about the USBDOS license. This person highlighted a note in the USBDOS license that suggested "if your website collects money, then you can't distribute USBDOS" - and the person asked about the Patreon link on the www.freedos.org website. So I thought I'd share my reply

[Freedos-devel] Question about JEMM license

2023-11-29 Thread Jim Hall via Freedos-devel
A user emailed me to ask about the license for JEMM. We list this as "Artistic License" on the website, but JEMM includes a few public domain components. https://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/repositories/1.3/pkg-html/jemm.html I wanted to share my reply to this person on the

[Freedos-devel] Next FreeDOS virtual get-together (December 17)

2023-11-26 Thread Jim Hall via Freedos-devel
Hi everyone! Thanks to Jerome for reminding me to schedule the next FreeDOS virtual get-together. Let's do the get-together on Sunday, December 17 at 11am US/Central (use your favorite timezone converter to find your local time). We are no longer using BlueJeans. They are shutting down that

Re: [Freedos-devel] Monthly Get-together

2023-11-26 Thread Jim Hall via Freedos-devel
We didn't set a date after the last one. I recall I also commented that I have a conference coming up and some other things that would have made a November video get-together difficult for me. (I need all the time I can get this week, and the next few weeks.) How about we try for December? Like

[Freedos-devel] FOSDEM '24 Emulator Development Room - call for presentations

2023-11-13 Thread Jim Hall via Freedos-devel
*Is anyone planning to attend FOSDEM? It would be great to have someone talk about FreeDOS, I think a lot of folks would be interested.* *Here's the invite for their call for presentations:* -- Small update, moved the CFP URL to here:

Re: [Freedos-devel] New FreeDOS Edlin 2.23 is out on Sourceforge!

2023-11-12 Thread Jim Hall via Freedos-devel
t; > > On 11/12/2023 11:07 AM EST Jim Hall via Freedos-devel > > wrote: > > > > > > Thanks! I always love a new Edlin release. :-) > > > > I've mirrored it on the FreeDOS Files Archive at Ibiblio. Here's the link: > > https://ibiblio.org/pub/micr

Re: [Freedos-devel] New FreeDOS Edlin 2.23 is out on Sourceforge!

2023-11-12 Thread Jim Hall via Freedos-devel
Thanks! I always love a new Edlin release. :-) I've mirrored it on the FreeDOS Files Archive at Ibiblio. Here's the link: https://ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/dos/edlin/2.23/ For anyone interested, the video Gregory mentioned is here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yapAepxbaT4

Re: [Freedos-devel] libm-0.6 and libmpi-0.2

2023-11-12 Thread Jim Hall via Freedos-devel
Hi everyone! For anyone who needs more info: libmpi is a Multiple Precision Integer library, and libm is a C math library. Both are public domain. You can find both on the FreeDOS Files Archive at Ibiblio, under /files/devel/libs/libm and /files/devel/libs/libmpi. Thanks Gregory! Here are the

[Freedos-devel] abcmidi and abcm2ps

2023-11-07 Thread Jim Hall via Freedos-devel
Ben Collver emailed me about these music players, and I wanted to re-share here: >> from https://archive.org/details/abcmidi-20231101-for-dos abcMIDI is a package of programs written in C for handling ABC music notation files. The software was created by James Allwright in the early 1990 and

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS Phishing attack - warning!

2023-11-02 Thread Jim Hall via Freedos-devel
So now phishers are pretending to be FreeDOS emails. That's pretty targeted phishing (aka "spear phishing" where attackers customize the email to be very specific to the recipient). Thanks for sharing. I haven't seen this, but I'll watch for it now. On Thu, Nov 2, 2023, 4:39 AM Wilhelm Spiegl

Re: [Freedos-devel] Help Development with djgpp

2023-10-26 Thread Jim Hall via Freedos-devel
On Wed, Oct 25, 2023 at 5:58 AM Walter Oesch via Freedos-devel wrote: > > From Code: > > if(_setvideomode(_SRES16COLOR) == 0) /* Switch to 800*600 mode with 16 > colors */ > { > printf("\n\nVideo mode not supported!!!\n"); > printf("Maybe the VESA driver has not

Re: [Freedos-devel] Help Development with djgpp

2023-10-24 Thread Jim Hall via Freedos-devel
On Tue, Oct 24, 2023 at 9:31 AM Walter Oesch via Freedos-devel wrote: > > Dear Eric > > Hear some facts of my project: > > I work for embedded software on the board Vortex86DX 800MHz. > I need at least SVGA graphic (800X600). > I prefer to work on Ubuntu 20.04 Linux (no Windows) > The target

Re: [Freedos-devel] Calculator for DOS with GUI

2023-10-06 Thread Jim Hall via Freedos-devel
On Fri, Oct 6, 2023 at 3:12 PM Pedro Luis Carballosa Mass via Freedos-devel wrote: > > Hi. > > The software is a basic calculator for DOS programmed in QBasic, the > calculator is not complete because he lacks some icons and it only > works with mouse, but this is due to that is part of a

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS Interim Build T2310 - no free space on CD

2023-10-05 Thread Jim Hall via Freedos-devel
Steve said: > I can't see what would need to be on base to make it more than about 20 > MB? And even that's pushing it hard. > > Maybe because I'm measuring by PC DOS 2000, which came on 6 floppies. > The FreeDOS distribution has a "LiveCD" component that allows users to boot the CD. This

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS Interim Build T2310 - no free space on CD

2023-10-03 Thread Jim Hall via Freedos-devel
I did a quick comparison of the packages on the FreeDOS 1.3 distribution (both Live and Bonus) and the FreeDOS T2310 distribution (Live and Bonus). And the differences in packages (added and dropped) were as expected, so that's good. :-) Then I added up the package size on T2310, both Live and

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS Interim Build T2310

2023-10-02 Thread Jim Hall via Freedos-devel
Jim wrote: > I want to compile some things using IA-16 GCC in the new Interim Build > T2310, but neither the LiveCD or BonusCD have the DJGPP Environment > package on it. We had this on previous FreeDOS installs; to compile > with IA-16 GCC, you need to set the DJGPP environment variable to a >

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS Interim Build T2310

2023-10-01 Thread Jim Hall via Freedos-devel
I want to compile some things using IA-16 GCC in the new Interim Build T2310, but neither the LiveCD or BonusCD have the DJGPP Environment package on it. We had this on previous FreeDOS installs; to compile with IA-16 GCC, you need to set the DJGPP environment variable to a DJGPP.ENV file. Or is

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS Interim Build T2310

2023-10-01 Thread Jim Hall via Freedos-devel
Downloaded and installed it. Looking good so far. Thanks! Jim On Sun, Oct 1, 2023 at 10:22 AM Jerome Shidel via Freedos-devel wrote: > > The FreeDOS Interim Test Build T2310 for October is now available for > download at: > >

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS virtual get-together on Sunday (reminder)

2023-09-24 Thread Jim Hall via Freedos-devel
a new video meeting platform, I don't think we'll have a meeting in October. I'm thinking about mid-November, to avoid the US Thanksgiving weekend. I'll send a "save the date" email well in advance so we can plan ahead. Jim > On Thu, Sep 21, 2023 at 2:35 PM Jim Hall wrote: > > >

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS virtual get-together on Sunday (reminder)

2023-09-24 Thread Jim Hall via Freedos-devel
Hi everyone! Here's the URL for today's virtual get-together: https://bluejeans.com/286798924/2517 See you in about 15 minutes! Jim On Thu, Sep 21, 2023 at 2:35 PM Jim Hall wrote: > > Hi everyone! > > I wanted to share a reminder that the next FreeDOS virtual > get-together

[Freedos-devel] FreeDOS virtual get-together on Sunday (reminder)

2023-09-21 Thread Jim Hall via Freedos-devel
Hi everyone! I wanted to share a reminder that the next FreeDOS virtual get-together is THIS SUNDAY, 11am US/Central. (Use your favorite time zone converter to find your local time, but it's the same time we've been doing it.) I'll share the meeting URL here shortly before the meeting starts.

Re: [Freedos-devel] Updating/moving the wiki

2023-08-26 Thread Jim Hall via Freedos-devel
Bernd wrote: [..] > If the project is in need of web space or something else, I think I > could help out. So let me know... > For the www.freedos.org and wiki.freedos.org websites, I'm comfortable taking care of the hosting costs on my own. We aren't set up as a Foundation, but the YouTube

Re: [Freedos-devel] Updating/moving the wiki

2023-08-26 Thread Jim Hall via Freedos-devel
Jim wrote: > > (This is a long email. Feel free to skip ahead to the "MY PROPOSAL" > > section at the end.) > > [..] > > MY PROPOSAL: > > > > I did some analysis, and the FreeDOS Wiki has 290 pages in it. That's > > more than a few, but it's not a ton. > > > > My current thinking is to set up a

[Freedos-devel] Updating/moving the wiki

2023-08-26 Thread Jim Hall via Freedos-devel
(This is a long email. Feel free to skip ahead to the "MY PROPOSAL" section at the end.) I mentioned in an earlier email that SourceForge upgraded the PHP on the server that runs the FreeDOS Wiki. I don't know why, but the PHP upgrade has caused the wiki to not load a stylesheet. It doesn't

Re: [Freedos-devel] Website maintenance

2023-08-23 Thread Jim Hall via Freedos-devel
On Wed, Aug 23, 2023 at 12:36 PM Jim Hall wrote: > > When SourceForge upgraded their website hosting to PHP 7.4, I didn't > read closely enough that the final website address will change. So I'm > in the process of updating things on the wiki.freedos.org site to > accommodate tha

[Freedos-devel] Website maintenance

2023-08-23 Thread Jim Hall via Freedos-devel
When SourceForge upgraded their website hosting to PHP 7.4, I didn't read closely enough that the final website address will change. So I'm in the process of updating things on the wiki.freedos.org site to accommodate that. We had a few things hosted there that really should be on the

[Freedos-devel] FYI: wiki.freedos.org will be upgraded tomorrow

2023-08-20 Thread Jim Hall via Freedos-devel
Hi everyone I wanted to share that SourceForge is upgrading the PHP to version 7.4 on the wiki.freedos.org server - sometime tomorrow, Aug 21. (This is part of a two-step upgrade; SourceForge will upgrade to PHP 8 later this year.) SF gave me a test link, so I tested the site on the new PHP and

Re: [Freedos-devel] ANSI for DOS

2023-07-31 Thread Jim Hall via Freedos-devel
FYI: Your post was 104 lines and 618 words. How-to articles on websites are between 500 and 800 words, so this email was a bit long. :-/ The point is you have released a new microemacs? :: Anyway, long story short - I have banged microemacs 3.6 into :: shape so that it is C90 compliant with the

Re: [Freedos-devel] Interesting behavior with PC Tools

2023-07-30 Thread Jim Hall via Freedos-devel
an into similar > > issues at various times that have caused me all kinds of grief. There > > are also some DOS Code Pages where other characters (besides 0, 32, and > > 255) also are blank (they look like a normal space when they aren't). [..] On Sun, Jul 30, 2023 at 3:55 

Re: [Freedos-devel] Interesting behavior with PC Tools

2023-07-30 Thread Jim Hall via Freedos-devel
On Sun, Jul 30, 2023 at 3:38 PM Bret Johnson wrote: > > Those extra "spaces" may not really be spaces at all -- they may > actually be ASCII 0 or ASCII 255, which look like a regular space (ASCII > 32) on the screen even though they aren't. I've ran into similar > issues at various times that

[Freedos-devel] Interesting behavior with PC Tools

2023-07-30 Thread Jim Hall via Freedos-devel
A user emailed me with what they thought was a bug, but to me it looks like everything is okay. Ironically, I think it's QBASIC that has the issue. Here's the "bug" as described to me: The user ran PC Tools on FreeDOS and navigated around. They exited PC Tools into a directory (BAS_DAT) that

Re: [Freedos-devel] Virtual get-together?

2023-07-30 Thread Jim Hall via Freedos-devel
> On Sun, Jul 30, 2023 at 11:03 AM Gregory Pietsch via Freedos-devel > wrote: > > > > Wasn't a virtual get-together supposed to happen about now? -- Gregory On Sun, Jul 30, 2023 at 11:06 AM Rugxulo via Freedos-devel wrote: > > Maybe Jim is still under the weather? > I'm so sorry I missed the

Re: [Freedos-devel] Free FDISK 1.3.8 released

2023-07-24 Thread Jim Hall via Freedos-devel
On Mon, Jul 24, 2023 at 10:56 AM Bernd Böckmann via Freedos-devel wrote: > > Today I released FDISK 1.3.8 into the wild: > > https://github.com/FDOS/fdisk/tree/v1.3.8 > [..] Thanks Bernd! I mirrored this release to ibiblio, and posted a news item about it on the website. Jim

Re: [Freedos-devel] dir issues

2023-07-24 Thread Jim Hall via Freedos-devel
On Mon, Jul 24, 2023 at 1:07 PM Ralf Quint via Freedos-devel wrote: >[..] > Well, there is/was a PC version of GEOS, which for a while now is Open > Source and available as PC/GEOS [..] > > https://github.com/bluewaysw/pcgeos > > PS: I don't think that GEM would be useless for use with FreeDOS,

[Freedos-devel] FreeDOS virtual get-together (moved to next week)

2023-07-22 Thread Jim Hall via Freedos-devel
Resending with a new Subject line so it doesn't get hidden/missed by some email clients: On Sat, Jul 22, 2023 at 10:19 AM Jim Hall wrote: > > Hi everyone > > I was traveling for a conference this week, and now I am sick. (My > COVID test was negative, though.) I cannot host t

Re: [Freedos-devel] Reminder: next FreeDOS virtual get-together

2023-07-22 Thread Jim Hall via Freedos-devel
Jim Hall wrote: > > Hi everyone! > > I just wanted to send a reminder that our next FreeDOS > virtual get-together is coming up on Sunday, 11:00 > a.m. to noon, US/Central Time. Use your favorite time > zone converter to find your local time. > > As usual, we will do

[Freedos-devel] Reminder: next FreeDOS virtual get-together

2023-07-19 Thread Jim Hall via Freedos-devel
Hi everyone! I just wanted to send a reminder that our next FreeDOS virtual get-together is coming up on Sunday, 11:00 a.m. to noon, US/Central Time. Use your favorite time zone converter to find your local time. As usual, we will do the meeting using Bluejeans. Folks have said that you get best

Re: [Freedos-devel] Blocek 1.74

2023-07-16 Thread Jim Hall via Freedos-devel
Thanks! I've mirrored this at the FreeDOS Files Archive on Ibilbio. I've also posted a news item on the website about it. Jim On Sat, Jul 15, 2023 at 3:07 AM Ladislav Lacina via Freedos-devel wrote: > > Hello! > New version of test editor Blocek is out. Now in version 1.74. > Project page is

Re: [Freedos-devel] Second call for htmlhelp

2023-07-10 Thread Jim Hall via Freedos-devel
I am also an editor for Technically We Write (a website about technical writing) and yesterday I wrote an article about how to write "ebooks" in AMB format. If anyone would like a walkthrough that shows how to write documentation in AMB format, here's the preview* article:

Re: [Freedos-devel] Second call for htmlhelp

2023-07-09 Thread Jim Hall via Freedos-devel
On Sun, Jul 9, 2023 at 6:46 AM Wilhelm Spiegl via Freedos-devel wrote: > > Till now amb files were created by Mateusz Viste. If I remember right, > e.g. Hyperlinks within the text look absolutely different. > They were created by Mateusz because AMB was new at the time, so only Mateusz really

Re: [Freedos-devel] Second call for htmlhelp

2023-07-09 Thread Jim Hall via Freedos-devel
On Sun, Jul 9, 2023 at 10:06 AM Jim Hall wrote: > I recall that Mateusz had a tool that could convert HTML files into > AMA format, but I can't find it [..] I found it: https://osdn.net/projects/amb/scm/svn/tree/head/samples/fdhelp2amb/ (note: the OSDN website is very slooow

Re: [Freedos-devel] Second call for htmlhelp

2023-07-08 Thread Jim Hall via Freedos-devel
I sent a separate email to Willi that included screenshots (the list doesn't like screenshots) but I wanted to repeat this thought with the list: >> BTW, I created my own index.htm file and ran a few tests. HTML Help supports HTML coding structures - this is awesome! I honestly don't remember if

Re: [Freedos-devel] Second call for htmlhelp

2023-07-08 Thread Jim Hall via Freedos-devel
On Sat, Jul 8, 2023 at 6:25 PM Jim Hall wrote: > > I sent a separate email to Willi that included screenshots (the list > doesn't like screenshots) but I wanted to repeat this thought with the > list: > > > >> > BTW, I created my own index.htm file and ran a few te

[Freedos-devel] Doszip Commander 2.65 fixes two bugs

2023-07-03 Thread Jim Hall via Freedos-devel
Fritz emailed this announcement to me off-list, and I wanted to fwd it here: > From: "nidud" > Subject: Re: [nidud/doszip] Problems with adding diskettes and HDs without > label / ".." (doubledot) (Issue #12) > > > The code is somewhat sensitive as it needs to test if the > drive exist for the

Re: [Freedos-devel] Happy 29th anniversary to FreeDOS!

2023-06-29 Thread Jim Hall via Freedos-devel
On Thu, Jun 29, 2023 at 6:11 PM Bernd Böckmann via Freedos-devel wrote: > > Jim, do you still have the original announcement? Would be an interesting > read I guess. > Here it is: https://groups.google.com/g/comp.os.msdos.apps/c/oQmT4ETcSzU/m/O1HR8PE2u-EJ The original name from the

[Freedos-devel] Happy 29th anniversary to FreeDOS!

2023-06-29 Thread Jim Hall via Freedos-devel
In 1994, several of us got together around a pretty neat idea. We liked DOS, but Microsoft was clearly moving completely to Windows. "The next version of Windows," they said, "would do away with DOS." We wanted to keep DOS around, so we decided to write our own. That project, announced 29 years

Re: [Freedos-devel] Annoying bounce messages (list admin stuff)

2023-06-29 Thread Jim Hall via Freedos-devel
edos-devel < freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote: > On 6/27/2023 2:28 PM, Jim Hall via Freedos-devel wrote: > > On Fri, Jun 23, 2023 at 3:38 PM Jim Hall wrote: > >> Thanks to Mateusz for pointing out a mail list setting that we think > >> will stop the annoyi

Re: [Freedos-devel] Annoying bounce messages (list admin stuff)

2023-06-27 Thread Jim Hall via Freedos-devel
On Fri, Jun 23, 2023 at 3:38 PM Jim Hall wrote: > > Thanks to Mateusz for pointing out a mail list setting that we think > will stop the annoying bounce messages. > > When you send an email to the email list, you might get a bounce > message. This is because of a cha

Re: [Freedos-devel] libm-0.5

2023-06-22 Thread Jim Hall
Hi everyone I've uploaded Gregory's new libm library to the FreeDOS Files Archive at Ibiblio: http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/devel/libs/libm/ I've also posted a news item on the website. On Tue, Jun 13, 2023 at 8:56 PM Gregory Pietsch wrote: > > This is the latest

[Freedos-devel] Next FreeDOS virtual get-together

2023-06-18 Thread Jim Hall
Hi everyone We had a lot of folks on today's virtual get-together! I love seeing people "in person." The next FreeDOS virtual get-together will be on Sunday, July 23 at 11am US/Central. We alternate topics every month, and July's focus will be "technical." This is a great time to do live

Re: [Freedos-devel] Reminder: FreeDOS virtual get-together on June 18

2023-06-18 Thread Jim Hall
Hi everyone! The virtual get-together is just 10 minutes away. Here's the URL we will use for the meeting: https://bluejeans.com/622720727/1803 This uses BlueJeans, which I use for my consulting business. You can use a browser to connect, but most people say the desktop client gives better

Re: [Freedos-devel] Reminder: FreeDOS virtual get-together on June 18

2023-06-18 Thread Jim Hall
Yes, 11am Central Time is just under two hours from now. :⁠-⁠) On Sun, Jun 18, 2023, 8:56 AM wrote: > Hmmm, that will be a little later today. :-) > > > On Jun 4, 2023, at 4:15 PM, Jim Hall wrote: > > > > Hi everyone! > > > > I wanted to share a reminder t

Re: [Freedos-devel] Logger

2023-06-13 Thread Jim Hall
On Fri, May 19, 2023 at 9:50 AM wrote: > > Hi All, > > Logger is now out of BETA. > > Version 1.00 is now available. > > https://fd.lod.bz/repos/current/pkg-html/logger.html I'm a month late on this, but THANKS for this very useful program! I've just posted a note about it on the website.

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS & LOGGER

2023-06-13 Thread Jim Hall
On Sat, Jun 10, 2023 at 9:31 AM Mercury Thirteen via Freedos-devel wrote: > > > Logger version 1.00 was released several weeks ago. That > > should have been sufficient time those who are interested > > in it to have a chance to try it out. I feel it is now > > time to pose a few questions and

Re: [Freedos-devel] EXIST NUL

2023-06-13 Thread Jim Hall
On Mon, Jun 12, 2023 at 4:05 PM Bret Johnson wrote: > > Rather than merely trying to copy the way MS did/does things regarding > IF EXIST X:NUL, I think we can discuss what the "right" way to handle > things should be. We should still fix the FreeDOS behavior to match the MS-DOS behavior. But if

[Freedos-devel] Reminder: FreeDOS virtual get-together on June 18

2023-06-04 Thread Jim Hall
Hi everyone! I wanted to share a reminder that our next FreeDOS virtual get-together is coming up on Sunday, June 18, 2023 at 11am US/Central. That's two weeks from today. We alternate topics every time. This month's focus is "social time." We'll probably cover technical topics too, but this is

[Freedos-devel] DOS windowing library, and DOS dir/file find utility

2023-05-24 Thread Jim Hall
I posted this as a news item on the website, but I wanted to share it on the email list too: Richard Hulse emailed me about releasing his DOS programs as open source: > I recently released a couple of things I wrote back in 1991, for use in > DOS, which may be of interest to your community. > >

Re: [Freedos-devel] Bloček 1.73

2023-04-30 Thread Jim Hall
On Sat, Apr 29, 2023 at 10:03 AM Ladislav Lacina wrote: > > Today I released a new version of my text editor and image viewer Bloček. > The project page with download links is: http://www.laaca.borec.cz/blocek/ >[..] Thanks! I'll mirror this to ibiblio and post a news item on the website. Jim

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS virtual get-together on Sunday!

2023-04-16 Thread Jim Hall
See you in about half an hour! https://bluejeans.com/358432980/6741 FYI that I can only be online for about an hour today. I'll need to wrap up a little after noon (US/Central). On Wed, Apr 12, 2023 at 11:27 PM Jim Hall wrote: > > I wanted to remind everyone that our next FreeDOS virtu

[Freedos-devel] Toy CPU 3.1 (announce)

2023-04-13 Thread Jim Hall
I teach university courses part-time, including a class about general computing topics, open to all majors. This is not a computer science class - it's an introductory course that teaches students about how technology works, to remove the mystery around computing. To help teach the unit on "how

[Freedos-devel] FreeDOS virtual get-together on Sunday!

2023-04-12 Thread Jim Hall
I wanted to remind everyone that our next FreeDOS virtual get-together is coming up soon - Sunday, April 16 at 11am US/Central. Use your favorite timezone converter to find your local time. As always, we'll do the meeting via Bluejeans. I'll share the meeting URL here shortly before the meeting.

[Freedos-devel] FreePascal bug [off-list]

2023-04-12 Thread Jim Hall
A user emailed me (late last year) with a bug/issue report on FreePascal in FreeDOS 1.3. I was going to (finally) reply to say they really should ask the FreePascal people about this, but I realized I couldn't really make out what they were saying. This is the part of their email that relates to

Re: [Freedos-devel] Reminder: FreeDOS virtual get-together tomorrow (Sunday)

2023-03-19 Thread Jim Hall
Hi everyone! Here's the URL for the FreeDOS virtual get-together, starting in ten minutes: https://bluejeans.com/683879830/9370 See you there! On Sat, Mar 18, 2023 at 6:35 PM Jim Hall wrote: > > Hi everyone! I wanted to remind you that our next FreeDOS virtual > get-together is

[Freedos-devel] Reminder: FreeDOS virtual get-together tomorrow (Sunday)

2023-03-18 Thread Jim Hall
Hi everyone! I wanted to remind you that our next FreeDOS virtual get-together is tomorrow (Sunday) at 11am US/Central for about an hour. Use your favorite timezone converter to find your local time. For example: https://www.worldtimebuddy.com/ We alternate topics every month, and this month the

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS Edlin 2.22 released!

2023-03-03 Thread Jim Hall
On Fri, Mar 3, 2023 at 4:27 PM Gregory Pietsch wrote: > > Twenty years in the making, FreeDOS Edlin 2.22 is now released unto > an unsuspecting world. The latest bug report/feature request that I > have tried to tackle is one that backup files aren't created if the > backup file already exists

Re: [Freedos-devel] MS-DOG (was Re: [Freedos-user] FSF)

2023-03-01 Thread Jim Hall
Tom wrote: > > I also dislike Richard. we can leave it at that. Ralf wrote: > That makes two of us.. He had a basically good idea decades ago and then +1 ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net

[Freedos-devel] Needs testing: SJGPlay

2023-02-19 Thread Jim Hall
I wanted to start a new thread for this request. Based on the discussion from the "FreeDOS package issues" thread, Jerome identified that the CDP package didn't include source code. Robert suggested SJGPlay as a replacement. Could anyone with a CD player and a sound card on their computer please

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS package issues

2023-02-19 Thread Jim Hall
> On Wed, 15 Feb 2023, E. Auer wrote: > > > Well, you can tell a CD drive to play track X using my > > minimalist cdrom2ui, but I think that would be sort of > > an INdecent open source alternative because it is too > > minimal :-D On the other hand, a QuickBasic solution > > sounds like something

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS package issues

2023-02-19 Thread Jim Hall
Jerome wrote: > > 4) CDP, This is not open source software. It is Freeware without > > sources. Should this be removed. Is there an decent open source > > alternative? Robert wrote: > Maybe someone wants to ask Steve J. Gray > to release source code (QuickBASIC 4.5) for his SJGPlay TUI player: >

Re: [Freedos-devel] Reminder: FreeDOS virtual get-together on Sunday

2023-02-19 Thread Jim Hall
Thanks to everyone for joining the FreeDOS virtual get-together this morning! We had a great discussion about various technical topics, including packages, looking at Jerome's V8Turbo command shell, discussing patches, and other tech topics. We usually do the get-together every month, so watch

Re: [Freedos-devel] Proposal: remove Graphical Desktops from next FreeDOS

2023-02-19 Thread Jim Hall
It's been a few days since the last comment on this thread, so I think those who have an opinion on this have voiced it. The consensus appears to be "Keep OpenGEM but drop oZone and SEAL" so let's remove oZone and SEAL in the next monthly test release. (These will not be removed from Ibiblio, so

Re: [Freedos-devel] Reminder: FreeDOS virtual get-together on Sunday

2023-02-19 Thread Jim Hall
Hi everyone! The FreeDOS virtual get-together is happening in 20 minutes. See you there! This month's focus is technical. But as always, we have some social time at the start anyway. :) Here's the URL for the meeting: https://bluejeans.com/438758366/8332 On Wed, Feb 15, 2023 at 11:38 PM Jim

[Freedos-devel] Reminder: FreeDOS virtual get-together on Sunday

2023-02-15 Thread Jim Hall
Hi everyone! I wanted to send a reminder that on *Sunday, Feb 19*, we have the next FreeDOS virtual get-together. It's at *11:00am US/Central Time*, use your favorite timezone converter to find your local time. We alternate topics every time. This time, the focus is *technical*. (And probably

Re: [Freedos-devel] Proposal: remove Graphical Desktops from next FreeDOS

2023-02-15 Thread Jim Hall
Danilo Pecher wrote: > > Quite frankly, I would throw them all on the scrap heap. Rugxulo wrote: > I wouldn't quite "throw them away", but for simplicity we really don't > have to include them. I don't use any GUI in DOS (by default). > > [off-topic comments dropped] And to be clear: I don't

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS package issues

2023-02-15 Thread Jim Hall
On Wed, Feb 15, 2023 at 4:10 PM E. Auer wrote: > >> What does CDP do? Can you mention some features of that? Jim wrote: > > As Robert already mentioned in this thread: > > "CDP is a non-TSR CD player." On Wed, Feb 15, 2023 at 4:18 PM E. Auer wrote: > Well, you can tell a CD drive to play track

Re: [Freedos-devel] Proposal: remove Graphical Desktops from next FreeDOS

2023-02-15 Thread Jim Hall
Hi Louis, > On Wed, Feb 15, 2023 at 2:07 PM Jim Hall wrote: > > > > As I mentioned in my other email, I don't think we need to have > > Graphical Desktops included in FreeDOS. I propose that we remove > > Graphical Desktops from the next FreeDOS, starting with the ne

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS package issues

2023-02-15 Thread Jim Hall
Jerome Shidel wrote: > > 4) CDP, This is not open source software. It is Freeware without > > sources. Should this be removed. Is there an decent open source > > alternative? On Wed, Feb 15, 2023 at 4:10 PM E. Auer wrote: > What does CDP do? Can you mention some features of that? > As Robert

[Freedos-devel] Proposal: remove Graphical Desktops from next FreeDOS

2023-02-15 Thread Jim Hall
As I mentioned in my other email, I don't think we need to have Graphical Desktops included in FreeDOS. I propose that we remove Graphical Desktops from the next FreeDOS, starting with the next FreeDOS Test release. Graphical Desktops were a neat experiment, long ago. We used to have a few

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS package issues

2023-02-15 Thread Jim Hall
On Wed, Feb 15, 2023 at 10:28 AM wrote: [..] > However, there are 4 other packages remaining with issues. All of > which are included somewhere on at least of one of the release media. > > 1) CPIDOS, this is basically just a package of codepage font > files. Those files have been assembled in

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS package issues

2023-02-15 Thread Jim Hall
On Wed, Feb 15, 2023 at 1:31 PM Robert Riebisch wrote: [..] > Maybe someone wants to ask Steve J. Gray > to release source code (QuickBASIC 4.5) for his SJGPlay TUI player: > http://www.6502.org/users/sjgray/software/sjgplay/sjgplay_dos.html > Good suggestion, didn't know about that one. I'll

Re: [Freedos-devel] Google Summer of Code?

2023-01-29 Thread Jim Hall
Replying to my own comment: On Sun, Jan 29, 2023 at 3:28 PM Jim Hall wrote: >[..] > Sifting through the several conversation threads on this, I think the > only project that would really be worth "Google Summer of Code" is a > "loader" to boot FreeDOS on new

Re: [Freedos-devel] Google Summer of Code?

2023-01-29 Thread Jim Hall
On Fri, Jan 27, 2023 at 10:09 AM Wilhelm Spiegl wrote: > > While this discussion is miles away from my original proposal, > I understand that my proposal with GSoC is buried. Thanks for this > interesting discussion. Sifting through the several conversation threads on this, I think the only

Re: [Freedos-devel] Google Summer of Code?

2023-01-29 Thread Jim Hall
On Sun, Jan 29, 2023 at 7:19 AM tom ehlert wrote: [..] > after all, an OS is not an end target: > people need the OS to run their applications like > > 1. Play classic DOS games. > > 2. Run legacy software. > > 3. Develop embedded systems. > > none of this is open source. Liam wrote: [response

Re: [Freedos-devel] UEFI, virtual BIOS and virtual hardware - was: Goo gle Summer of Code?

2023-01-29 Thread Jim Hall
> On Fri, 27 Jan 2023 at 15:54, tom ehlert wrote: > > most people around here already have a working machine, most likely > > Windows or Linux. > On Sun, Jan 29, 2023 at 5:21 AM Liam Proven wrote: > Are these people the target market for FreeDOS? > > Is there an overlap between this demographic

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS / Jim on TheRegister

2023-01-23 Thread Jim Hall
On Mon, Jan 23, 2023 at 5:50 PM Aitor Santamaría wrote: > > Hello, > > Founder of FreeDOS recounts the story so far, and the future • The Register Thanks to Liam for the interview. We discussed the history of FreeDOS, and some of the directions we've been talking about here, off and on. I think

Re: [Freedos-devel] Don't forget: FreeDOS virtual get-together (Sunday)

2023-01-22 Thread Jim Hall
Let's plan for the next virtual get-together on Sunday Feb 19 at 11am US/Central. The focus for this one will be "technical." ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel

Re: [Freedos-devel] Google Summer of Code?

2023-01-22 Thread Jim Hall
> > What core programs or components should we put into the application - > > if we apply and can get accepted? On Sun, Jan 22, 2023 at 12:11 PM Robert Riebisch wrote: > A mouse-driven GUI... > > SCNR :-D Funny! :-) Mouse-driven GUI is always at the top of the list for new DOS developers,

Re: [Freedos-devel] Don't forget: FreeDOS virtual get-together (Sunday)

2023-01-22 Thread Jim Hall
Thanks to everyone who joined the FreeDOS virtual get-together! It was a small group (7 or 8 people) but this was more of a social meeting so the small size was good for conversation. We'll plan to do it again next month and focus on technical topics. Watch for the date!

Re: [Freedos-devel] Don't forget: FreeDOS virtual get-together (Sunday)

2023-01-22 Thread Jim Hall
After several reboots, my router is back online. Hopefully it will stay that way. Here's the meeting URL: https://bluejeans.com/202946130/6751 On Sun, Jan 22, 2023 at 10:59 AM Ralf Quint wrote: > > On 1/22/2023 8:56 AM, Jim Hall wrote: > > My internet router needs to be rebooted.

Re: [Freedos-devel] Don't forget: FreeDOS virtual get-together (Sunday)

2023-01-22 Thread Jim Hall
My internet router needs to be rebooted. At least, I hope that will get me back online. I'll share the URL when I'm back online and can login to Bluejeans. I'm sending from my phone right now. On Sun, Jan 22, 2023, 10:49 AM Ralf Quint wrote: > On 1/20/2023 4:45 PM, Jim Hall wrote: > &

[Freedos-devel] Google Summer of Code?

2023-01-21 Thread Jim Hall
Willi mentioned the Google Summer of Code, and I wanted to start a new thread here for us to discuss the program: I'd love for FreeDOS to participate in Google Summer of Code. IIRC, this program doesn't require the participating open source projects to have funds to join? [website is

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 2023 calendar

2023-01-21 Thread Jim Hall
Looks like the application period for open source projects starts in a week or so. I'll start a new thread to see what folks would suggest we put into the application. Jim > Jim Hall wrote: >> >> Like last year, I wanted to have a FreeDOS-themed 2023 wall calendar >> for my

[Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 2023 calendar

2023-01-21 Thread Jim Hall
Like last year, I wanted to have a FreeDOS-themed 2023 wall calendar for my office. So I just made one for myself, and made it available for anyone to buy. If you'd like a printed copy for yourself, you can order it on Lulu: https://www.lulu.com/shop/jim-hall/freedos-calendar-2023/paperback

[Freedos-devel] Don't forget: FreeDOS virtual get-together (Sunday)

2023-01-20 Thread Jim Hall
DON'T FORGET: The FreeDOS virtual get-together is Sunday at 11am US/Central. I'll share the link here shortly before the meeting starts. The meeting is on BlueJeans, which is what I use for my consulting (training). While you can use your web browser to connect to the meeting, we've found that

[Freedos-devel] Draft 3 of the "FreeDOS 28" book

2023-01-20 Thread Jim Hall
Hi everyone The book project has been very slow going. Sorry about that. I mentioned that I took on too much in the second half of 2022, so I wasn't able to do editing on the book. But that's clearing up, so I am back on the book project. My goal is to have the book/ebook available in about two

Re: [Freedos-devel] Where to start and continue?

2023-01-15 Thread Jim Hall
Jerome wrote: > Like Tom said, there are books available. > > With few exceptions, the books are much better than trying to learn this > stuff from websites. Most of the stuff you will find online probably > will not go into the details you need. In my opinion, most of the > online stuff requires

Re: [Freedos-devel] Online get-together

2023-01-15 Thread Jim Hall
On Sun, Jan 15, 2023 at 11:55 AM wrote: > > Hi Jim, > (and all) > > It’s been a couple months. > > I’m just wondering if there are plans to do a get-together next week. > > :-) > That's a great idea - let's do it! I miss seeing everyone. Let's plan for NEXT Sunday, 22 January, 2023 at 11am

[Freedos-devel] Mined

2023-01-07 Thread Jim Hall
I wanted to share Rugxulo's announcement about the Mined editor: Thomas Wolff has released MinEd 2022.27, the Unicode text editor. Mined is free software provided under the GNU Public License. * https://mined.github.io/ * mined-2022.27-dos.zip (DJGPP, 392 kb .ZIP) Quick list of changes: *

[Freedos-devel] RC - Running Calculator

2023-01-07 Thread Jim Hall
I needed to have a simple running calculator when I was using FreeDOS - something that would let me add a list of numbers and do some other simple math operations. So I wrote one. RC (Running Calculator) lets you do simple arithmetic operations: = + - * / Place the operator first, then one or

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