On 2012-09-19 02:21 (GMT+0200) C. Masloch composed:
>> A:\> SYS C:
>> [...]
>> A:\> FDISK /MBR
> Yep, you successfully circumvented GRUB now =P
Maybe you should reread what I wrote previously:
grub> root (hd0,0)
grub> setup (hd0,0)
grub> quit
Grub doesn't need to be on the MBR, and I never p
> A:\> SYS C:
>
> [...]
>
> A:\> FDISK /MBR
Yep, you successfully circumvented GRUB now =P
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On 2012-09-19 02:05 (GMT+0200) C. Masloch composed:
>> grub> root (hd0,0)
>> grub> setup (hd0,0)
>> grub> quit
>> Oh so difficult,
> That also requires the boot sector to /already/ be set up correctly, just
> in the partition itself this time =)
Another toughie:
A:\> SYS C:
Or, maybe you mean
> grub> root (hd0,0)
> grub> setup (hd0,0)
> grub> quit
>
> Oh so difficult,
That also requires the boot sector to /already/ be set up correctly, just
in the partition itself this time =)
> shenanigans, and 5-10 times the HD space sprawled across several
> directories and/or partitions, require
> Where neither source mentioned that there was anything "proved in
> court", as there was never a trial on that matter.
Right, it wasn't. So the rumour part was _only_ the mention of "proved in
court", which it didn't quite reach. But it isn't a rumour at all that
MS-DOS 7 and 8 were unnecess
On 2012-09-19 00:58 (GMT+0200) C. Masloch composed:
>>> I read the announcement in July that Grub 2.00 supports FreeDOS.
>> So does Grub Legacy, [...]
> As opposed to GRUB 2, it additionally needs setting up the correct boot
> sector file (to be chainloaded from GRUB for loading the kernel)
gru
At 03:26 PM 9/18/2012, C. Masloch wrote:
> >> >>Again, this was purely marketing, not technical, as MS wanted to
> >> >>exclusively bundle their DOS with Windows. With (very creaky) shims,
> >> >>DR-DOS was said to be able to boot Win95 (and proved such in court),
> >> >
> >> > Where and when was t
>> I read the announcement in July that Grub 2.00 supports FreeDOS.
>
> So does Grub Legacy, [...]
As opposed to GRUB 2, it additionally needs setting up the correct boot
sector file (to be chainloaded from GRUB for loading the kernel), which is
possible using FreeDOS's SYS.
There's a fork ca
Hi,
On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 5:50 PM, Felix Miata wrote:
>>Again, would dual boot be a good idea?
>
> I've been multibooting about 20 years, with DOS on a 1st HD primary included
> in most cases. It's really not difficult to set up or use any DOS version via
> multiboot.
Vista and 7 let y
On 2012-09-18 18:32 (GMT-0300) Marcos Favero Florence de Barros composed:
>And if DosEmu can't do it, would dual boot (Grub) be a
>good idea? I read the announcement in July that Grub 2.00
>supports FreeDOS.
So does Grub Legacy, which is much simpler to install, configure
Hi,
On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 5:26 PM, C. Masloch wrote:
>
> In x86 Windows NT, 16-bit subsystems known as NTVDM and WOW are enabled by
> default, but they seem to be separated more clearly from the main (32-bit)
> system.
NT was supposedly designed to be portable (and 32-bit, i.e. no "real"
DOS)
I think what you're all forgetting is that Apple developed all of this
technology, and will be suing all parties involved, very soon. :-)
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On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 5:00 PM, Ralf A. Quint wrote:
> At 02:25 PM 9/18/2012, Rugxulo wrote:
>
>> >>Again, this was purely marketing, not technical, as MS wanted to
>> >>exclusively bundle their DOS with Windows. With (very creaky) shims,
>> >>DR-DOS was said to be able to boot
>> >>Again, this was purely marketing, not technical, as MS wanted to
>> >>exclusively bundle their DOS with Windows. With (very creaky) shims,
>> >>DR-DOS was said to be able to boot Win95 (and proved such in court),
>> >
>> > Where and when was that? This lawsuit was never brought to trial in
>>
> Is DosEmu actually capable of working with Portuguese
> diacritics and supporting a standard Brazilian keyboard in
> the first place?
It's probably possible, but it might require configuring dosemu more, or
maybe even patching dosemu's source.
> And if DosEmu can't do
At 02:25 PM 9/18/2012, Rugxulo wrote:
> >>Again, this was purely marketing, not technical, as MS wanted to
> >>exclusively bundle their DOS with Windows. With (very creaky) shims,
> >>DR-DOS was said to be able to boot Win95 (and proved such in court),
> >
> > Where and when was that? This lawsuit
> I think it still did use DOS file system calls, but I could be wrong.
It circumvented DOS for higher performance if no DOS software was
intercepting or handling the FS and block device functions (from DOS Int21
API through DOS block device down to ROM-BIOS Int13 API), at Windows
start-up.
Hi,
I have a couple of friends who would like to run DataPerfect
databases in their Linux and Windows computers.
-- Linux: I tried DosEmu, but could not make it work
correctly with the accents (diacritics) of the Portuguese
language. Don't know if the problem is keyboard- or
Hi,
On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 4:04 PM, Ralf A. Quint wrote:
> At 01:29 PM 9/18/2012, Rugxulo wrote:
>>
>>Again, this was purely marketing, not technical, as MS wanted to
>>exclusively bundle their DOS with Windows. With (very creaky) shims,
>>DR-DOS was said to be able to boot Win95 (and proved suc
At 01:29 PM 9/18/2012, Rugxulo wrote:
>(I hate legalese, so I dislike bringing this up, but ...)
>
>Again, this was purely marketing, not technical, as MS wanted to
>exclusively bundle their DOS with Windows. With (very creaky) shims,
>DR-DOS was said to be able to boot Win95 (and proved such in co
Hi,
On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 11:43 AM, Bret Johnson wrote:
>
> The are only a few practical differences between Windows 9x
> and similar DOS applications. The first is that Windows 9x comes
> with a version of DOS that has special enhancements the Windows
> application requires to operate properl
Hi,
On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 3:36 PM, C. Masloch wrote:
>> On a semi-related note, I think you can boot Win 3.x inside DOSEMU,
>> DOSBox, etc.
>
> This is irrelevant to DOS compatibility when booting a DOS inside any of
> them.
I was referring mainly to the fact that DOSBox somehow managed to cod
> On a semi-related note, I think you can boot Win 3.x inside DOSEMU,
> DOSBox, etc. Even Mike Chambers' Fake86 can (mostly) boot it. There
> may even be some experimental support on some of those for booting
> Win9x, but since that's uninteresting to me, I've never delved deeper.
This is irreleva
Hi,
On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 9:21 PM, Ralf A. Quint wrote:
> At 04:48 PM 9/17/2012, Karen Lewellen wrote:
>
>>Granted, I am a media professional, so facts especially n the Internet
>>are important.
>>the fact is ms dos 7.1 under wind 98 had fat 32, even Dr dos in 99 has it.
>
> The fact is that th
> Actually, WinXP and DOSEMU have another advantage over DOSBox: LFNs.
> You'd be surprised (or maybe not, heh) at how many projects just
> assume LFNs are available. DOSBox doesn't support LFNs, and while I
> can't remember, I don't think DOSLFN worked there anyways.
Well, it could work for files
Hi,
On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 10:57 PM, Karen Lewellen
wrote:
>
> indeed they are referring to doslfn, but as I am not sure, I have written
> to ask just what edition. Also which of freedos.
> they sent me the line they are loading...thoughts?
>
> LH DOSLFN /Z:C:\DOS71\CP437UNI.TBL
>
> I feel sur
Hi,
On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 2:46 PM, C. Masloch wrote:
>
>> * DOSBox ... sure, it's only for games and is really its own "fake"
>> DOS, but it sorta works and is free/libre, popular, and easy to find
>> binaries.
>
>> I wouldn't specifically include DOSEMU because it needs a "real" DOS,
>
> DOSBo
On Tue, 2012-09-18 at 21:19 +0200, Mateusz Viste wrote:
> Maybe it would be a good idea to take one of these, and put a link right
> on the FreeDOS website, in the download section at
> http://www.freedos.org/download/ with a little note 'if you need to
> bring alive an old and rusty pc with on
Hi,
On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 2:29 PM, Ricardus Vincente
wrote:
> On Tue, 2012-09-18 at 14:11 -0500, Rugxulo wrote:
>
> Then link to the sites that have reliable boot images this way people
> don't have to spend too much time looking.
Here's another one that sounds promising:
http://schierlm.use
> * DOSBox ... sure, it's only for games and is really its own "fake"
> DOS, but it sorta works and is free/libre, popular, and easy to find
> binaries.
> I wouldn't specifically include DOSEMU because it needs a "real" DOS,
DOSBox can also boot an actual DOS version (like dosemu always does),
On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 3:24 PM, Rugxulo wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 5:22 AM, Mark Brown wrote:
>> my account has been compromised, please watch out for false content!
>
> I think a lot of Yahoo! accounts got hacked recently. Dunno more
They did.
> beyond that, sorry. I got actual spam fr
Hi,
On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 8:24 PM, wrote:
>
> The talk about different versions of DOS reminds me that I've been doing
> research recently about which DOS operating systems are available.
>
> Here is how I see it:
>
> FreeDOS
> MS-DOS 6.22
> Win9x (MS-DOS 7.1)
> DR-DOS 7.03
> Enhanced DR-DOS
On Tue, 2012-09-18 at 14:11 -0500, Rugxulo wrote:
Then link to the sites that have reliable boot images this way people
don't have to spend too much time looking.
Rich...
> Hi,
>
> On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 1:14 PM, Ricardus Vincente
> wrote:
> >
> > Would someone please remind me about why t
Hi,
On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 5:22 AM, Mark Brown wrote:
> my account has been compromised, please watch out for false content!
I think a lot of Yahoo! accounts got hacked recently. Dunno more
beyond that, sorry. I got actual spam from two real friends / people /
correspondents within 24 hours a f
Hi,
On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 12:39 PM, Ralf A. Quint wrote:
> At 10:10 AM 9/18/2012, Louis Santillan wrote:
>>There's only 13K upper mem free according to mem/c. I believe it is
>>in one block. And, iirc, all that most apps need is to be able to
>>swap a 4k page at a time. My guess is that jemmex
On 09/18/2012 09:11 PM, Rugxulo wrote:
> 4). There ARE floppy images, as mentioned, just slightly moldy. Most
> of us make do with old stuff and manually install. :o)
>
> http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/distributions/unofficial/balder/balder10.img
> http://www.ibiblio.org/
Hi,
On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 1:14 PM, Ricardus Vincente
wrote:
>
> Would someone please remind me about why there isn't a boot floppy
> image in the FreeDOS web site that actually has FreeDOS on it? Seems
> like it would be a really easy thing to do, and for that small
> percentage of people who
OK, a friend had a box of new, still sealed floppies, and I was
successful making a boot disc.
http://imagebin.org/228865
I am an official idiot because I forgot that I had another old machine
laying around with a 3.5 inch floppy on it. The power supply has some
bad capacitors, and it's really
At 10:10 AM 9/18/2012, Louis Santillan wrote:
>There's only 13K upper mem free according to mem/c. I believe it is
>in one block. And, iirc, all that most apps need is to be able to
>swap a 4k page at a time. My guess is that jemmex doesn't implement
>ems in a way that fps fbpro expects which is
There's only 13K upper mem free according to mem/c. I believe it is in one
block. And, iirc, all that most apps need is to be able to swap a 4k page
at a time. My guess is that jemmex doesn't implement ems in a way that fps
fbpro expects which is why it finds 0k free ems.
I'm using the same defaul
Perhaps just semantics, but I never considered Windows 9x to be "Operating
Systems" -- I consider them to be "Operating Environments" just like the
previous versions of Windows call themselves (3.x & earlier). Windows 9x isn't
conceptually much different than GEM or GEOS or similar DOS applicat
Are you absolutely sure there are no errors when when you are installing the
EMM? What screen messages do you get when it is loading?
I'm guessing what may be happening is that you have enough poorly placed
(virtual) hardware ROM modules that the EMM can't find a contiguous 64k block
of upper
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> "unlike the old ms dos, freedos lets you access fat 32 file systems"
could be extended into:
"unlike the old ms dos, freedos lets you access fat 32 file systems,
a feature which ms only offered bundled with windows 95 and newer"
or a bit less extended:
"unlike the old ms dos*, fre
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