[Freedos-user] FreeDOS 1.1 SATA Support

Hello. I care SATA support on FreeDOS 1.1 CD. I researched AUTOEXEC.BAT and CONFIG.SYS on FreeDOS 1.1 CD on boot floppy disk image (FDBOOT.IMG) that is booting via Syslinux. I applied  commands those are I found on FDBOOT.IMG on my other FreeDOS system. But I can't give support SATA on my syste

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS 1.1 crashing in VirtualBox 5.0.22

Hi, On Sat, Jul 2, 2016 at 2:19 PM, Abe Mishler wrote: > > I'm interested in learning how games like DOOM (requires 3MB available) > were able to work. I know I know, read the source code. AFAIK, Doom was originally compiled with Watcom using a DOS extender (DOS4G Professional). So it's 386 pmod

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS 1.1 crashing in VirtualBox 5.0.22

Great tip!!! I'll have to try that! > On Jul 2, 2016, at 6:30 PM, Ulrich Hansen wrote: > > Hi Abe, > >> Am 01.07.2016 um 14:59 schrieb Abe Mishler : >> >> except linux can >> mount raw images for native file sharing > > Today I found out: If I choose „VHD“ as type for the virtual harddisk i

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS 1.1 crashing in VirtualBox 5.0.22

Hi Abe, > Am 01.07.2016 um 14:59 schrieb Abe Mishler : > > except linux can > mount raw images for native file sharing Today I found out: If I choose „VHD“ as type for the virtual harddisk in VirtualBox, I am able to mount the VirtualBox image in Windows too. See: https://www.lazybrowndog.n

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS 1.1 crashing in VirtualBox 5.0.22

> On Jul 1, 2016, at 4:17 PM, Rugxulo wrote: > > Hi, > >> On Tue, Jun 28, 2016 at 10:08 AM, Eric Auer wrote: >> >> I think that even 597 kB of low DOS memory is plenty for old DOS programs. > > "597 kb should be enough for anyone." -- Eric Auer, 2016:-) > > In Abe's recent screenshot,

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS 1.1 crashing in VirtualBox 5.0.22

Hi again, quick reply, On Fri, Jul 1, 2016 at 3:17 PM, Rugxulo wrote: > > On Tue, Jun 28, 2016 at 10:08 AM, Eric Auer wrote: >> >> I think that even 597 kB of low DOS memory is plenty for old DOS programs. Just FYI, in an email to Mateusz a year ago, I told him this: " BARE_DOS (under 8086tiny

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS 1.1 crashing in VirtualBox 5.0.22

Hi, On Tue, Jun 28, 2016 at 10:08 AM, Eric Auer wrote: > > I think that even 597 kB of low DOS memory is plenty for old DOS programs. "597 kb should be enough for anyone." -- Eric Auer, 2016:-) In Abe's recent screenshot, he shows that he's now getting (thanks to Ulrich) "628 kb" free. This

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS 1.1 crashing in VirtualBox 5.0.22

> Am 01.07.2016 um 14:59 schrieb Abe Mishler : > >> >> 1?DEVICE=C:\FDOS\BIN\JEMMEX.EXE NOEMS X=TEST I=B000-B7FF I=C800-EFFF >> NOVME NOINVLPG >> > That works like a charm! Do those regions work for you? Yes. I tested it on a FreeDOS 1.1 guest on my Mac. And, as I don’t have Windows machine a

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS 1.1 crashing in VirtualBox 5.0.22

Hi Ulrich! On 7/1/2016 3:35 AM, Ulrich Hansen wrote: > >> Am 01.07.2016 um 01:51 schrieb Abe Mishler > >: >> >> I have been learning a lot about JEMMEX as compared to the other >> drivers lately. > > Hi Abe, > > If you don’t mind, it would be great if you could try on

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS 1.1 crashing in VirtualBox 5.0.22

> Am 01.07.2016 um 01:51 schrieb Abe Mishler : > > I have been learning a lot about JEMMEX as compared to the other drivers > lately. Hi Abe, If you don’t mind, it would be great if you could try one last thing with VirtualBox and JEMMEX: Please try to start JEMMEX with this line in FDCONF

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS 1.1 crashing in VirtualBox 5.0.22

Hi again, On Fri, Jul 1, 2016 at 12:34 AM, Rugxulo wrote: > > But I agree, in theory, that JEMMEX shouldn't be preferred or > suggested without a good reason. But that's not my decision for FD 1.2 > (and I forget offhand what Jerome uses, I haven't downloaded any > recent prereleases, too preoccu

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS 1.1 crashing in VirtualBox 5.0.22

Hi, On Thu, Jun 30, 2016 at 6:51 PM, Abe Mishler wrote: > >> On Jun 30, 2016, at 6:19 PM, Rugxulo wrote: >> >> If JEMMEX is your only problem, then you have no problems. > > This idea has appeared before in this thread and it is a relief to hear it > echoed. > Perhaps a disclaimer like this is

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS 1.1 crashing in VirtualBox 5.0.22

Hi, > On Jun 30, 2016, at 6:19 PM, Rugxulo wrote: > > Hi, > >> On Thu, Jun 30, 2016 at 6:17 AM, Abe Mishler wrote: >> >>> On 6/29/2016 1:03 PM, Rugxulo wrote: >> >> On the page that you sent regarding QEMU Binaries for Windows, it says: >> "QEMU for Windows is experimental software and might

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS 1.1 crashing in VirtualBox 5.0.22

Hi, On Thu, Jun 30, 2016 at 6:17 AM, Abe Mishler wrote: > >> On 6/29/2016 1:03 PM, Rugxulo wrote: > > On the page that you sent regarding QEMU Binaries for Windows, it says: > "QEMU for Windows is experimental software and might contain even > serious bugs, so use the binaries at your own risk."

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS 1.1 crashing in VirtualBox 5.0.22

Hi, to bring in some thoughts from off-list... JEMMEX has a built-in HIMEM which apparently is known to have problems when memory useable for XMS is discontinuous, which happens quite often on modern (virtual) hardware. The UMBPCI author tries hard to keep supporting modern chipsets which can be

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS 1.1 crashing in VirtualBox 5.0.22

> I think FreeDOS in QEMU on linux is the way to go (for me, at this time). Inspired by this thread I also looked into qemu (even installed it on my Mac). Just in case you missed it: There’s a great tutorial about running FreeDOS 1.1 in qemu. Part three is all about networking. :-) The author

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS 1.1 crashing in VirtualBox 5.0.22

Hi Rugxulo et al., On 6/29/2016 1:03 PM, Rugxulo wrote: > Hi, > > On Wed, Jun 29, 2016 at 10:05 AM, Abe Mishler wrote: >> >> On 6/28/2016 7:55 PM, Rugxulo wrote: >>> >>> I would recommend you (also) test under QEMU if you're that worried or >>> want (potentially) better stability. >>> >> QEMU, wh

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS 1.1 crashing in VirtualBox 5.0.22

Hi, On Wed, Jun 29, 2016 at 10:05 AM, Abe Mishler wrote: > > On 6/28/2016 7:55 PM, Rugxulo wrote: >> >> I would recommend you (also) test under QEMU if you're that worried or >> want (potentially) better stability. >> > QEMU, while about 10x slower (on Win 8.1 amd64 host), ran perfectly. > Thank

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS 1.1 crashing in VirtualBox 5.0.22

On 6/28/2016 7:55 PM, Rugxulo wrote: > Hi, > > On Tue, Jun 28, 2016 at 3:55 PM, Abe Mishler wrote: >> >> Strange, right? And not just on one computer, but three separate ones; each >> running different hardware and software (host OS). Although I would expect >> that the underlying differences ar

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS 1.1 crashing in VirtualBox 5.0.22

> Am 29.06.2016 um 13:08 schrieb Don Flowers : > > The only drivers that work for this is Ulrich's FreeDOS 1.0 drivers Himem.exe > and "EMM386.EXE NOEMS" Before someone gets it wrong: The drivers were written by Tom Ehlert, Michael Devore and other fine people. Thanks!

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS 1.1 crashing in VirtualBox 5.0.22

I use Novell Personal Netware for networking with a dedicated server plus each of 4 other machines acting in SERVER/CLIENT mode The only drivers that work for this is Ulrich's FreeDOS 1.0 drivers Himem.exe and "EMM386.EXE NOEMS" (no other switch is necessary). I load DOS HIGH, UMB. This gives me

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS 1.1 crashing in VirtualBox 5.0.22

Am 28.06.2016 um 22:55 schrieb Abe Mishler : >> is pretty unstable, at least for me. > It seems like you should be excluding a different region of memory. From your > screenshot: E300-EDFF. The packet driver works, but FDAPM is still crashing when I exclude E300-EDFF. >> But the default line

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS 1.1 crashing in VirtualBox 5.0.22

Hi, On Tue, Jun 28, 2016 at 3:55 PM, Abe Mishler wrote: > > Strange, right? And not just on one computer, but three separate ones; each > running different hardware and software (host OS). Although I would expect > that the underlying differences are abstracted away by VirtualBox. It's not reall

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS 1.1 crashing in VirtualBox 5.0.22

Hi Uli and Abe, indeed it seems like it is not trivial to find the right excluded areas for UMB to have stability. Having no page frame is okay - EMS 4 aware software can still use EMS, only EMS 3 software will miss a frame. Normally it is enough to have 550k conventional free. To explain the d

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS 1.1 crashing in VirtualBox 5.0.22

Guys, > On Jun 28, 2016, at 3:39 PM, Ulrich Hansen wrote: > > >> Am 28.06.2016 um 21:19 schrieb Ulrich Hansen : >> >> The trick is to load PCNTPK low in option 1. Then it won’t crash with your >> JEMMEX options. At least for me. :-) >> >> PCNTPK INT=0x60 > > Okay, and FDAPM crashes too. I n

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS 1.1 crashing in VirtualBox 5.0.22

Hi, On Tue, Jun 28, 2016 at 12:56 PM, Abe Mishler wrote: > > It's apparent that a well written book might help me come up > to speed on all of these memory modes and managers. I'm not an expert, but the simple answer is you don't need all of them. Pure XMS (and optional DPMI) should suffice for

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS 1.1 crashing in VirtualBox 5.0.22

> Am 28.06.2016 um 21:19 schrieb Ulrich Hansen : > > The trick is to load PCNTPK low in option 1. Then it won’t crash with your > JEMMEX options. At least for me. :-) > > PCNTPK INT=0x60 Okay, and FDAPM crashes too. I need to load it into conventional memory as well. All in all it seems your

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS 1.1 crashing in VirtualBox 5.0.22

> Am 28.06.2016 um 20:41 schrieb Ulrich Hansen : > > If I look closely, I find that PCNTPK crashes at boot. So I have no network. > No wonder all the memory is free. > https://www.lazybrowndog.net/freedos/files/freedos1.1-vbox-opt1-memory2.png >

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS 1.1 crashing in VirtualBox 5.0.22

Hi Abe (and hi Eric!) > Am 28.06.2016 um 16:42 schrieb Abe Mishler : > > 1?DEVICE=C:\FDOS\BIN\JEMMEX.EXE NOEMS X=C900-DFFF I=TEST NOVME NOINVLPG > > Boot option 1 (http://tinypic.com/r/zm1boj/9 ): > Total memory Free: 26,699K > Total Expanded (EMS): 8,576K > Free E

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS 1.1 crashing in VirtualBox 5.0.22

On 6/28/2016 11:08 AM, Eric Auer wrote: > > Hi Abe, > >> Based on Eric's suggestion of using more cautious settings, >> I found the JEMMEX doc page >> (http://help.fdos.org/en/hhstndrd/base/jemmex.htm) > > The documentation is also included in your installation on disk. > >> 1?DEVICE=C:\FDOS\BIN\

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS 1.1 crashing in VirtualBox 5.0.22

Hi Abe, > Based on Eric's suggestion of using more cautious settings, > I found the JEMMEX doc page > (http://help.fdos.org/en/hhstndrd/base/jemmex.htm) The documentation is also included in your installation on disk. > 1?DEVICE=C:\FDOS\BIN\JEMMEX.EXE NOEMS X=C900-DFFF I=TEST NOVME NOINVLPG Yo

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS 1.1 crashing in VirtualBox 5.0.22

Hi Ulrich, Thanks for the link. I compared the 2 files and didn't find anything of significance. Your change: IF "%config%"=="2" PCNTPK INT=0x60 IF NOT "%config%"=="2" LH PCNTPK INT=0x60 seems smart, however. Based on Eric's suggestion of using more cautious settings, I found the JEMMEX doc p

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS 1.1 crashing in VirtualBox 5.0.22

Hi Abe, if you like, take a look at: https://www.lazybrowndog.net/freedos/virtualbox There are three VirtualBox images of FreeDOS 1.1. I put quite some effort in them to make them work. I remember the crash you are talking about, but, sorry,

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS 1.1 crashing in VirtualBox 5.0.22

Eric, Thanks for your time and attention. See my responses inline. On 6/27/2016 3:05 PM, Eric Auer wrote: > > Hi Abe, > >> upon bootup and selecting option 1, I get the following message: >> >> JemmEx v5.75 [05/21/11] >> System memory found at c900-dfff, region might be in use >> JemmEx loaded >>

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS 1.1 crashing in VirtualBox 5.0.22

Hi Abe, > upon bootup and selecting option 1, I get the following message: > > JemmEx v5.75 [05/21/11] > System memory found at c900-dfff, region might be in use > JemmEx loaded > Kernel: allocated 46 Diskbuffers = 24472 Bytes in HMA > > after which nothing ever happens. It hangs permanently.

[Freedos-user] FreeDOS 1.1 crashing in VirtualBox 5.0.22

Dear List, I've attempted to install FreeDOS 1.1 using VirtualBox 5.0.22 on 3 different machines with 3 different operating systems: (Macbook Pro (10.11.5), Windows 8.1 Home, and Windows 10 Pro). On each system, upon bootup and selecting option 1, I get the following message: JemmEx v5.75 [05/

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS 1.1 Bootable USB Image

Hi, On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 1:00 PM, Christian Imhorst wrote: > > I am still a fan of a FD 1.1 bootable USB image. By this time I use > Qemu to build one, too. It is much easier to make the image bootable > with Qemu than with Grub4DOS or Syslinux. QEMU is pretty great but a bit fractured. The

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS 1.1 Bootable USB Image

Hi Rugxulo, I am still a fan of a FD 1.1 bootable USB image. By this time I use Qemu to build one, too. It is much easier to make the image bootable with Qemu than with Grub4DOS or Syslinux. Today I wear an USB stick together with my key ring with a bootable FD 1.1 image. I have created this ima

[Freedos-user] FreeDOS 1.1 Bootable USB Image

Hi, I somehow stumbled upon this blog/website which seems to host a FD 1.1 bootable USB image (and tells steps on how to make/install it ... with screenshots!). http://joelinoff.com/blog/?p=431 Maybe I missed it, but I'm not sure if any of us directly discussed this before, so I'm mentioning it

Re: [Freedos-user] freedos 1.1 and xen

Hi, On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 7:22 PM, wch-t...@house-grp.net wrote: > > I have a host machine (Dom0) running OpenSUSE xen kernel version > 3.11.10-21.1. I applaud you for trying such an emulator with FreeDOS. Even I don't have the energy to try every emulator under the sun anymore. > I am using

[Freedos-user] freedos 1.1 and xen

Hello, I have a host machine (Dom0) running OpenSUSE xen kernel version 3.11.10-21.1. I am using the xl tool stack to the extent I can. I have installed freedos as a guest. I am encountering errors such as "Error reading from drive C: DOS area: write-protection violation attempted (A)bort, (I)

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS 1.1 install

On 2013-02-09 10:56 (GMT-0800) Ray Davison composed: > A little background. My first PC ran DOS 3.3 on a 28M HDD that I broke > into three partitions, all primaries. Since the extended came out every > machine I have had has had a single primary - 2G or less, Fat 16 - with > one or more installs

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS 1.1 install

I usually don't use the installers, try to install manually: - Copy KERNEL.SYS + FREECOM.COM + SYS.COM + WDE.COM - Backup B.S. with WDE - SYS C: /BOOTONLY On 2/9/13, Ray Davison wrote: > A little background. My first PC ran DOS 3.3 on a 28M HDD that I broke > into three partitions, all prima

[Freedos-user] FreeDOS 1.1 install

A little background. My first PC ran DOS 3.3 on a 28M HDD that I broke into three partitions, all primaries. Since the extended came out every machine I have had has had a single primary - 2G or less, Fat 16 - with one or more installs of DOS and maybe Win9X. The rest of the drive, and any o

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS 1.1: JemmEx conflicts with Keyb

Am 18.06.2012 um 22:15 schrieb Aitor Santamaría: > I suspect JEMM may make the DOS' memory allocation strategy functions less > robust than they are with other DOSes. For what it's worth: The problem doesn't occur with JEMMEX v5.61 and started to occur in JEMMEX v5.62 and all following versio

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS 1.1: JemmEx conflicts with Keyb

Am 18.06.2012 um 22:15 schrieb Aitor Santamaría: > There were in the past conflicts with KEYB 2.00 and JEMM that were apparently > solved with KEYB 2.01. > The NOHI option mostly controlls KEYB access to XMS, but reading this thread, > and knowing what I fixed 2.00 to 2.01, I suspect JEMM may m

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS 1.1: JemmEx conflicts with Keyb

Hi, old thread ;) There were in the past conflicts with KEYB 2.00 and JEMM that were apparently solved with KEYB 2.01. The NOHI option mostly controlls KEYB access to XMS, but reading this thread, and knowing what I fixed 2.00 to 2.01, I suspect JEMM may make the DOS' memory allocation strategy f

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS 1.1: About installation cd AND system backup???

Hi, Just a little bit of non-expert info from me here, On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 5:10 PM, Joe(theWordy)Philbrook wrote: > > It would appear that on Jun 3, Eric Auer did say: > >> > 3) you wouldn't happen to know if using clonezilla's expert mode >> >     to de-select cloning the "hidden data betw

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS 1.1: About installation cd AND system backup???

It would appear that on Jun 3, Eric Auer did say: > > 3) you wouldn't happen to know if using clonezilla's expert mode > > to de-select cloning the "hidden data between MBR and 1st > > partition" when making a clone of a working bootable {via > > chainloader} freedos partition, would

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS 1.1: About installation cd AND system backup???

On Sun, Jun 3, 2012 at 3:46 PM, Eric Auer wrote: > In the case of GRUB2 (?) it will then search the > PC for bootable operating systems by looking at all > boot records and present those as boot menu. Classic > GRUB relied more on a configuration file for that, in > GRUB2 it is more automatic...

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS 1.1: About installation cd AND system backup???

Hi! > 1) When, at the end of the install, the installer asks what to do with >the bootsector AKA "Volume Boot Record". Is it the same thing as when a >linux installer allows me to install grub to the 1st superblock of the >"/" partition??? {it seams to have the same effect} Yes that

[Freedos-user] FreeDOS 1.1: About installation cd AND system backup???

Hello, I recently installed the FreeDOS 1.1 cd to an old laptop with a 6 gig hd a minimal linux all configured to access my email and with all the bookmarks I need to quickly find help {when/if} the next time I bork my desktop... I decided I wanted to install dos in part because I found an old sta

Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos 1.1 install errors...

Op 11-4-2012 21:33, Jack schreef: > Send me a private E-Mail, and if XMGR can be modified so Syslinux and > Isolinux do NOT "confuse" it, I will make such modifications in XMGR! I'll try to figure out what's going on, however have much doubt that I'd be skilled enough to actually find a root cau

Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos 1.1 install errors...

>>> ... With my own testing I found JEMMEX more compatible than XMGR >>> or HIMEMX + JEMM386 in various cases, but on other systems it is >>> different, as Mike mentioned ... >> >> To WHAT "incompatibilities" are you referring?? > > The A20 stuff that Syslinux/Isolinux (and MEMDISK) mess around wit

Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos 1.1 install errors...

Op 11-4-2012 21:10, Jack schreef: >> ... With my own testing I found JEMMEX more compatible than XMGR or >> HIMEMX + JEMM386 in various cases, but on other systems it's different, >> as Mike mentioned ... > > To WHAT "incompatibilities" are you referring?? The A20 stuff that Syslinux/Isolinux (and

Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos 1.1 install errors...

> ... With my own testing I found JEMMEX more compatible than XMGR or > HIMEMX + JEMM386 in various cases, but on other systems it's different, > as Mike mentioned ... To WHAT "incompatibilities" are you referring?? Be advised of the following -- 1) JEMMEX/JEMM386 use "old" memory-test schemes,

Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos 1.1 install errors...

Hi, On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 1:24 PM, Bernd Blaauw wrote: > Op 11-4-2012 20:02, Rugxulo schreef: > > The entire idea of opensource was to be able to modify sources to suit a > person's needs. Most people, including me, haven't got enough interest > or experience to be a programmer, but still, a bi

Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos 1.1 install errors...

Op 11-4-2012 20:02, Rugxulo schreef: > Users will always need sources, esp. if they share, but they don't > necessarily need to unpack them. (Well, anyways, they probably don't > have all compilers anyways.) The entire idea of opensource was to be able to modify sources to suit a person's needs

Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos 1.1 install errors...

Hi, On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 11:13 AM, Eric Auer wrote: > >>> it seems even on modern hardware unpacking FreeCOM >>> during install may take VERY long, so we need a fix: >> >> This seems to be specific to the old installer (v3.7.8 by Jeremy) I >> think, as that unpacks entire packages. Sourcecode

Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos 1.1 install errors...

Hi Bernd, >> it seems even on modern hardware unpacking FreeCOM >> during install may take VERY long, so we need a fix: > > This seems to be specific to the old installer (v3.7.8 by Jeremy) I > think, as that unpacks entire packages. Sourcecode modification would be > required to add a "-x source

Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos 1.1 install errors...

Op 10-4-2012 18:21, Eric Auer schreef: > it seems even on modern hardware unpacking FreeCOM > during install may take VERY long, so we need a fix: This seems to be specific to the old installer (v3.7.8 by Jeremy) I think, as that unpacks entire packages. Sourcecode modification would be required

Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos 1.1 install errors...

> Have you tried explicit "I=-" and "X=-" commands with > JEMM386/JEMMEX?? I've tried several different JEMM options -- none of them fixed the problem on that particular computer. I finally just gave up and went to other alternatives. --

Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos 1.1 install errors...

>> actually I would not even OFFER a boot menu item to skip loading the >> XMS driver at all: You cannot even boot the install CD / USB on old >> pre-XMS PC. > > Probably a bad idea for compatibility reasons, unless you offer multiple > choices for which XMS manager to install. E.g., I have a c

Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos 1.1 install errors...

the "no-drivers" choice, No. 4, is provided because some programs, such as PLoP, will not load at all unless there are *no drivers* loaded, at least on my system...   PLoP chokes on any drivers in freedos 1.1, saying: "cannot run under windows in a dos box", in effect.   i kid you not.

Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos 1.1 install errors...

> actually I would not even OFFER a boot menu item to skip loading the > XMS driver at all: You cannot even boot the install CD / USB on old > pre-XMS PC. Probably a bad idea for compatibility reasons, unless you offer multiple choices for which XMS manager to install. E.g., I have a computer wh

Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos 1.1 install errors...

Hi Bernd, it seems even on modern hardware unpacking FreeCOM during install may take VERY long, so we need a fix: - it is good to have source and binary in one zip - but you can use info-zip's command line options (-x source/*) to exclude sources from unzip :-) - a default install does not n

Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos 1.1 install errors...

Op 8-4-2012 19:44, Michael B. Brutman schreef: > Some of us figured out that on ancient hardware (8088, 80286, etc.) the > decompression process takes a long time. If you are running in a > virtual machine and your underlying hardware/operating system does not > fully support virtualization then y

Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos 1.1 install errors...

On 4/3/2012 1:18 AM, Michael Robinson wrote: > There is a syntax error message that flashes before the where to install > freedos to and from menu comes up. Another problem, install freezes at > installing command.com. Uge! > Are you installing on old hardware or in a virtual machine? Some of u

Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos 1.1 install errors...

Hi, On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 1:18 AM, Michael Robinson wrote: > > There is a syntax error message that flashes before the where to install > freedos to and from menu comes up.  Another problem, install freezes at > installing command.com.  Uge! I'm pretty sure it was agreed upon that it doesn't te

[Freedos-user] Freedos 1.1 install errors...

There is a syntax error message that flashes before the where to install freedos to and from menu comes up. Another problem, install freezes at installing command.com. Uge! -- Better than sec? Nothing is better than sec

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS 1.1 released

On Sat, 2012-01-14 at 19:14 -0800, Michael Robinson wrote: > First off, I don't appreciate anyone calling anyone an idiot on this > email list. Second, I haven't experimented with Freedos 1.1 myself, but > I hope any difficulty others have working with it is dealt with both > patiently and profes

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS 1.1 boot process ends with "interrupt devide by zero" and system halt

Please try to empty FDCONFIG.SYS and FDAUTO.BAT, and re-add USEFUL things piece after piece ... and supply shot of the crash ... "it crashes AFTER the boot has finished" is NOT very informative. -- RSA(R) Conference 2012 M

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS 1.1 released

> wish VMware's video feature would use standard codecs so > something could be posted to Youtube or Please provide your movies in OGV or WebM files, not Loo-Tube. > > - It fails to find any HD (see middle shot) > In the normal configurations or the dedication one? Both, but in "normal configura

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS 1.1 boot process ends with "interrupt devide by zero" and system halt

On Jan 15, 2012 6:04 PM, "Ralph Deffke" wrote: > > Thanx all, > > but as I said its impossible to figure out what driver is causing the problem, the sequence doesn't seem to be logical to fix the problem. > it crashes AFTER the boot has finished. > > I installed version 1,0 ( 0.87 beta ) with no p

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS 1.1 boot process ends with "interrupt devide by zero" and system halt

Thanx all, but as I said its impossible to figure out what driver is causing the problem, the sequence doesn't seem to be logical to fix the problem. it crashes AFTER the boot has finished. I installed version 1,0 ( 0.87 beta ) with no problem. tx ralph

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS 1.1 released

2012/1/15 dos386 > > Other: > > >- CWSDPMI, VSM, DOSNTLFN, ... are in > >- INFOPAD, 7-ZIP, UNTGZ, HX/HDPMI32, MPXPLAY, FASM, CC386, FREEBASIC, > >ARACHNE, ... are NOT in ... what can you do with it when installed ? > As for the mpxplay copied it into /fdos/bin from the previous distribution. Or

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS 1.1 released

2012/1/15 dos386 > >would be nice to know how many people actually installed it > >successfully on a __REAL__ PC ;-) > I did and did it successfully. Yes, it did hang on the commandx but not mortally - for a while like some 2 minutes and then continued without problems. On a partition fat 32 -

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS 1.1 released

Op 15-1-2012 3:56, dos386 schreef: >> [Freedos-kernel] FreeDOS 1.1 released > > COOL :-) thanks, worked hard for it :) > http://jafile.com/uploads/dos386/freeds11.png I like your style of coming up with screenshots, it clarifies issues quite nicely. I wish VMware's video feature would use stand

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS 1.1 released

My criticism addressed the fact that you can "select" Pat as a menu item, not the respect to Pat ... EOD @Ralf. -- RSA(R) Conference 2012 Mar 27 - Feb 2 Save $400 by Jan. 27 Register now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/rsa-sfdev2dev2

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS 1.1 released

Thanks ... > It is not a menu item, just a dedication :-( > the same respect to Pat can be shown even > without the highlighting of that item/line and allowing to select it ;-) > What types of HD do you have? IDE, SATA, USB? IDE, and there is a FAT16 partition on. > Maybe because there actuall

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS 1.1 released

Hi, On Sat, Jan 14, 2012 at 9:31 PM, Ralf A. Quint wrote: > At 07:14 PM 1/14/2012, Michael Robinson wrote: > >>First off, I don't appreciate anyone calling anyone an idiot on this >>email list. > > Sorry but this was just one arrogant post of him too many! > > He is one of the reasons, beside my

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS 1.1 released

At 07:18 PM 1/14/2012, dos386 wrote: >I can install and update FreeDOS manually (and I've been >having it for years), so the problems don't really hurt me, >but for potential new users, I'd prefer a well working distro. How about you come up with a better working installer yourself then? Ralf

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS 1.1 released

At 07:15 PM 1/14/2012, dos386 wrote: > > > What's the purpose of the menu item "Pasquale" (see top shot) ? > > Are you such an idiot or are you just trying to play the troll here? > > It should be obvious to almost everyone that this is not an > active menu item > >Idiot yourself. It is active. Ju

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS 1.1 released

At 07:14 PM 1/14/2012, Michael Robinson wrote: >First off, I don't appreciate anyone calling anyone an idiot on this >email list. Sorry but this was just one arrogant post of him too many! He is one of the reasons, beside my past health issues, that I have not participated in here for years. Ra

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS 1.1 released

Hi Dos386, >> [Freedos-kernel] FreeDOS 1.1 released > http://jafile.com/uploads/dos386/freeds11.png > - What's the purpose of the menu item "Pasquale" (see top shot) ? It is not a menu item, just a dedication :-( Maybe the fact that it is highlighted made it look like a menu item for you... I

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS 1.1 released

I can install and update FreeDOS manually (and I've been having it for years), so the problems don't really hurt me, but for potential new users, I'd prefer a well working distro. -- RSA(R) Conference 2012 Mar 27 - Feb 2 S

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS 1.1 released

> > What's the purpose of the menu item "Pasquale" (see top shot) ? > Are you such an idiot or are you just trying to play the troll here? > It should be obvious to almost everyone that this is not an active menu item Idiot yourself. It is active. Just try to select it and push ENTER :-D

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS 1.1 released

First off, I don't appreciate anyone calling anyone an idiot on this email list. Second, I haven't experimented with Freedos 1.1 myself, but I hope any difficulty others have working with it is dealt with both patiently and professionally. Myself, I'm waiting for the 1.2 release. > >Problems: >

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS 1.1 released

At 06:56 PM 1/14/2012, dos386 wrote: > > [Freedos-kernel] FreeDOS 1.1 released > >COOL :-) > >http://jafile.com/uploads/dos386/freeds11.png > >Problems: > >- What's the purpose of the menu item "Pasquale" (see top shot) ? Are you such an idiot or are you just trying to play the troll here? It sho

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS 1.1 released

> [Freedos-kernel] FreeDOS 1.1 released COOL :-) http://jafile.com/uploads/dos386/freeds11.png Problems: - What's the purpose of the menu item "Pasquale" (see top shot) ? - It fails to find any HD (see middle shot) - Using the menu item "install to harddisk", it starts installing but hangs at

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS 1.1: JemmEx conflicts with Keyb

Rugxulo wrote: >> 1?DEVICE=C:\FDOS\BIN\JEMMEX.EXE NOEMS X=TEST I=TEST NOVME NOINVLPG > > Why is this using NOVME NOINVLPG? Is it trying to be > ultra-conservative? Is there a known VirtualBox (or other) bug > somewhere? Seems odd ... though INVLPG is 486 and VME is 586, perhaps > you're trying fo

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS 1.1 boot process ends with "interrupt devide by zero" and system halt

Op 14-1-2012 17:59, Ralph Deffke schreef: > anybody any suggestions for the 1.1 version ? First thing you can do is modify FDCONFIG.SYS (or CONFIG.SYS) text file (EDIT C:\FDCONFIG.SYS) by commenting out the memory drivers, see if that works: DEVICE=C:\FDOS\BIN\JEMMEX.EXE then becomes: ;DEVICE=C:

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS 1.1 boot process ends with "interrupt devide by zero" and system halt

Hi Ralph, This may seem obvious, but have you tried loading each driver individually? Also try changing the order you load them. If they are chaining interrupts, there may be a conflict. Hope this helps Jeffrey -- RS

[Freedos-user] FreeDOS 1.1 boot process ends with "interrupt devide by zero" and system halt

Hi after two nights booting in step mode I can't figure out what driver is causing this problem. FreeDOS boots well in the "NO DRIVERS" option the message is INTERRUPT divide by zero 9D49 C000 3A07 070F 01FC 0017 0111 0002 0008 1464 0070 I will try the 1.0 iso's to see if they w

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS 1.1: JemmEx conflicts with Keyb

Am 14.01.2012 um 00:17 schrieb Rugxulo: >> In FDCONFIG.SYS I went back to all the original settings of FreeDOS 1.1. So >> the JemmEx line looks like this again: >> >> 1?DEVICE=C:\FDOS\BIN\JEMMEX.EXE NOEMS X=TEST I=TEST NOVME NOINVLPG > > Why is this using NOVME NOINVLPG? Is it trying to be > ul

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS 1.1: JemmEx conflicts with Keyb

Hi, On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 2:17 PM, Ulrich Hansen wrote: > Am 13.01.2012 um 18:54 schrieb Bernd Blaauw: > >> Op 13-1-2012 16:11, Ulrich Hansen schreef: >>> >>> Description: I have installed FreeDOS 1.1 with german language and >>> keyboard. If I boot (after a fresh install) with bootmenu option

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS 1.1: JemmEx conflicts with Keyb

Am 13.01.2012 um 18:54 schrieb Bernd Blaauw: > Op 13-1-2012 16:11, Ulrich Hansen schreef: >> >> Description: I have installed FreeDOS 1.1 with german language and keyboard. >> If I boot (after a fresh install) with bootmenu option 1 (Load FreeDOS with >> JemmEx) keyb will crash with the error m

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS 1.1: JemmEx conflicts with Keyb

Op 13-1-2012 16:11, Ulrich Hansen schreef: > This seems to be a minor (but annoying) bug in FreeDOS 1.1: The german > keyboard does not work after the install. If I install the US keyboard, there > is no problem. > > Description: I have installed FreeDOS 1.1 with german language and keyboard. >

[Freedos-user] FreeDOS 1.1: JemmEx conflicts with Keyb

This seems to be a minor (but annoying) bug in FreeDOS 1.1: The german keyboard does not work after the install. If I install the US keyboard, there is no problem. Description: I have installed FreeDOS 1.1 with german language and keyboard. If I boot (after a fresh install) with bootmenu option

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS 1.1 released

The torrent worked for me, thanks a lot. I think that torrent protocol is designed to look for a free port. -- -- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ Marco A. Achury Tel: +58-(212)-6158777 Cel: +58-(414)-3142282 Skype: marcoachury http://www.achury.com.ve El 04/01/2012 06:11 p.m., James Hall escribió: >>> And

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