Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS on a Dell Inspiron 1150: safe-mode only?

2024-08-21 Thread Nicholas Bernhard via Freedos-user
Thank you. On Wed, Aug 21, 2024 at 10:22:41PM -0400, Jerome Shidel via Freedos-user wrote: > JEMM has been updated since FreeDOS 1.3 was released. > > I recommend updating that program. Or, try using the monthly interim test > build of FreeDOS. The interim test build contains the latest version

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS on a Dell Inspiron 1150: safe-mode only?

2024-08-21 Thread Jerome Shidel via Freedos-user
JEMM has been updated since FreeDOS 1.3 was released. I recommend updating that program. Or, try using the monthly interim test build of FreeDOS. The interim test build contains the latest versions we have of the programs provided with the OS. > On Aug 21, 2024, at 5:05 PM, Nicholas Bernhard

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS on a Dell Inspiron 1150: safe-mode only?

2024-08-21 Thread Eric Auer via Freedos-user
Hi! I recently pulled a Dell Inspiron 1150 from my local landfill. This is a Windows XP-era laptop... Intel Celeron 2.6 GHz, and I installed 2 GB of RAM. I was able to install FreeDOS... but... https://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/distributions/test/report.html Well, if

Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos-user Digest, Vol 2670, Issue 2

2024-08-17 Thread Ben Collver via Freedos-user
> Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2024 14:49:21 -0400 > From: jer...@shidel.net > > Have you considered using EtherDFS or NetDrive? > > https://etherdfs.sourceforge.net/ > https://www.brutman.com/mTCP/mTCP_NetDrive.html > I'

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS live stream event with VCF

2024-07-02 Thread E. C. Masloch via Freedos-user
On at 2024-07-01 20:12 +, tsiegel--- via Freedos-user wrote: On 7/1/2024 7:56 PM, Eric Auer via Freedos-user wrote: The WIN31SUPPORT define is still not enabled/defined by default I believe. Some discussion in [7]. At some point I manually built a kernel including it. I also contributed

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS live stream event with VCF

2024-07-02 Thread E. C. Masloch via Freedos-user
On at 2024-07-01 21:56 +0200, Eric Auer via Freedos-user wrote: Hi ECM, thanks for the explanations! If I understand https://github.com/FDOS/kernel/issues/50 correctly, Windows 386enh support is not part of the automated builds yet because there originally were limitations regarding which com

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS live stream event with VCF

2024-07-01 Thread Jerome Shidel via Freedos-user
Hi, > On Jul 1, 2024, at 4:15 PM, tsiegel--- via Freedos-user > wrote: > >  >> On 7/1/2024 7:46 PM, Eric Auer via Freedos-user wrote: >> >> Hi Jerome, >> I basically wonder about something like a third choice, next to "auto-fdisk & auto-format" and "exit to DOS", which lets the use

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS live stream event with VCF

2024-07-01 Thread Jerome Shidel via Freedos-user
> On Jul 1, 2024, at 3:47 PM, Eric Auer via Freedos-user > wrote: > >  > Hi Jerome, > >>> I basically wonder about something like a third choice, next to >>> "auto-fdisk & auto-format" and "exit to DOS", which lets the user >>> run FDISK interactively and then returns to the installer. >> It

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS live stream event with VCF

2024-07-01 Thread tsiegel--- via Freedos-user
On 7/1/2024 7:56 PM, Eric Auer via Freedos-user wrote: The WIN31SUPPORT define is still not enabled/defined by default I believe. Some discussion in [7]. At some point I manually built a kernel including it. I also contributed a workaround to allow the gcc build to succeed with WIN31SUPPORT

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS live stream event with VCF

2024-07-01 Thread tsiegel--- via Freedos-user
On 7/1/2024 7:46 PM, Eric Auer via Freedos-user wrote: Hi Jerome, I basically wonder about something like a third choice, next to "auto-fdisk & auto-format" and "exit to DOS", which lets the user run FDISK interactively and then returns to the installer. It could be a shell to dos instea

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS live stream event with VCF

2024-07-01 Thread Eric Auer via Freedos-user
Hi ECM, thanks for the explanations! If I understand https://github.com/FDOS/kernel/issues/50 correctly, Windows 386enh support is not part of the automated builds yet because there originally were limitations regarding which compilers are supported, which have since been resolved? The secon

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS live stream event with VCF

2024-07-01 Thread Eric Auer via Freedos-user
Hi Jerome, I basically wonder about something like a third choice, next to "auto-fdisk & auto-format" and "exit to DOS", which lets the user run FDISK interactively and then returns to the installer. It only auto partitions in normal mode when no partitions exist. If partitions exist and ar

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS live stream event with VCF

2024-07-01 Thread tsiegel--- via Freedos-user
PPS: I do not suggest specific UEFI-BIOS-CSM projects. Anybody? I went searching for some recently, and the only ones I found were pcem (no longer maintained it seems, although there was an update a few months ago, just no new release), and of course, the original pcXT rom from IBM which is

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS live stream event with VCF

2024-07-01 Thread E. C. Masloch via Freedos-user
On at 2024-07-01 13:26 -0400, Jerome Shidel via Freedos-user wrote: Hi ECM, On Jul 1, 2024, at 12:51 PM, E. C. Masloch via Freedos-user wrote: On at 2024-06-30 23:32 +0200, Eric Auer via Freedos-user wrote: Remember that Jeremy first posted in 2021-07-26 about his proof of concept demo of

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS live stream event with VCF

2024-07-01 Thread Jerome Shidel via Freedos-user
Hi ECM, > On Jul 1, 2024, at 12:51 PM, E. C. Masloch via Freedos-user > wrote: > > On at 2024-06-30 23:32 +0200, Eric Auer via Freedos-user wrote: > >> Remember that Jeremy first posted in 2021-07-26 about his proof >> of concept demo of a Windows 386enh install on FreeDOS kernel. >> Kernel ve

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS live stream event with VCF

2024-07-01 Thread E. C. Masloch via Freedos-user
On at 2024-06-30 23:32 +0200, Eric Auer via Freedos-user wrote: Remember that Jeremy first posted in 2021-07-26 about his proof of concept demo of a Windows 386enh install on FreeDOS kernel. Kernel version 2044 exists since 2023-12-02. Since then, we basically have been waiting for people to TE

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS live stream event with VCF

2024-07-01 Thread Liam Proven via Freedos-user
On Mon, 1 Jul 2024 at 16:43, Alvah Whealton via Freedos-user wrote: > > Excellent, Liam, and thanks greatly for posting. I would try keeping up with > all that you write but there are an insufficient number of hours in a day. Why thank you! I can tell you that it frequently feels like there are

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS live stream event with VCF

2024-07-01 Thread Alvah Whealton via Freedos-user
Excellent, Liam, and thanks greatly for posting. I would try keeping up with all that you write but there are an insufficient number of hours in a day. Al Whealton On Mon, Jul 1, 2024 at 8:23 AM Liam Proven via Freedos-user < freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote: > On Sun, 30 Jun 2024 at 23

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS live stream event with VCF

2024-07-01 Thread Liam Proven via Freedos-user
On Sun, 30 Jun 2024 at 23:34, Eric Auer via Freedos-user wrote: > > Interesting that MS Word for DOS looks a bit like EDIT, but > with char style highlighting and a graphical preview :-D Well, yes. They are both Common User Access apps. MS Word for DOS up to v5.0 used its own UI, but 5.5 switche

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS live stream event with VCF

2024-06-30 Thread Jerome Shidel via Freedos-user
> On Jun 30, 2024, at 7:35 PM, Eric Auer via Freedos-user > wrote: > >  > Hi Jim, > > *Installer* > >> the installer tries to do everything for you; the user should >> just be able to respond to prompts. > > I basically wonder about something like a third choice, next to > "auto-fdisk & au

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS live stream event with VCF

2024-06-30 Thread Eric Auer via Freedos-user
Hi Jim, *Installer* the installer tries to do everything for you; the user should just be able to respond to prompts. I basically wonder about something like a third choice, next to "auto-fdisk & auto-format" and "exit to DOS", which lets the user run FDISK interactively and then returns to

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS live stream event with VCF

2024-06-30 Thread Jim Hall via Freedos-user
Jim Hall wrote: > > Join us today for the VCF Live Stream, hosted by Jeff Brace from the > > Vintage Computer Federation. Jerome Shidel wrote: > I was tied up (figuratively). So, I missed the first couple minutes. > > I was thinking it was going to be another interview. > > I just found it a littl

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS live stream event with VCF

2024-06-30 Thread Jim Hall via Freedos-user
Eric Auer wrote: [..] > Interesting that MS Word for DOS looks a bit like EDIT, but > with char style highlighting and a graphical preview :-D Yes, it's probably not surprising that the company that made MS-DOS Edit and Word for DOS would make them look a bit similar. I used Microsoft QuickC in th

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS live stream event with VCF

2024-06-30 Thread Jerome Shidel via Freedos-user
Hi Jim, > On Jun 29, 2024, at 5:03 PM, Jim Hall via Freedos-user > wrote: > > Join us today for the VCF Live Stream, hosted by Jeff Brace from the > Vintage Computer Federation. > I was tied up (figuratively). So, I missed the first couple minutes. I was thinking it was going to be another

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS live stream event with VCF

2024-06-30 Thread Jim Hall via Freedos-user
Eric Auer wrote: > Hi Jim and VCF, thank you for sharing the stream on > > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_peIYEAM9pk > > Of course, I have some thoughts about it: > > Earlier in the video, when you present some spreadsheets > and word processors, there is a point where you show the > Windows 3

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS live stream event with VCF

2024-06-30 Thread Jim Hall via Freedos-user
Eric Auer wrote: [..] > Unfortunately, the rolling monthly release apparently > uses very OLD FreeDOS core components: > > A 2021 kernel with a copyright message saying 1995-2012 > and a 2021 shell version 0.85a :-( [...] > Remember that Jeremy first posted in 2021-07-26 about his proof > of concep

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS live stream event with VCF

2024-06-30 Thread Jerome Shidel via Freedos-user
Eric, > On Jun 30, 2024, at 5:33 PM, Eric Auer via Freedos-user > wrote: > […] > > Unfortunately, the rolling monthly release apparently > uses very OLD FreeDOS core components: > > A 2021 kernel with a copyright message saying 1995-2012 > and a 2021 shell version 0.85a :-( What? Those are

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS live stream event with VCF

2024-06-30 Thread Eric Auer via Freedos-user
Hi Jim and VCF, thank you for sharing the stream on https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_peIYEAM9pk Of course, I have some thoughts about it: Earlier in the video, when you present some spreadsheets and word processors, there is a point where you show the Windows 3 about screen and it mentions

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS live stream event with VCF

2024-06-30 Thread Eric Auer via Freedos-user
Hi and a belated happy 30th birthday FreeDOS! If using freedos exclusively, what tools would allow you to attend this event? As Jim mentioned accessibility (although in another context) it would indeed be a good question whether for example the audio could be provided as a non-https download

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS live stream event with VCF

2024-06-30 Thread Angel M Alganza via Freedos-user
On 2024-06-30 00:37, Karen Lewellen via Freedos-user wrote: If using freedos exclusively, what tools would allow you to attend this event? It could be downloaded with a browser using an Invidious link (either the audio, the video, or both) and later reproduced using a media player. Has mpla

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS live stream event with VCF

2024-06-29 Thread Karen Lewellen via Freedos-user
no. It is supposed to be a question allowing the sharing of how those using freedos could have enjoyed this event. On Sat, 29 Jun 2024, Ralf Quint via Freedos-user wrote: On 6/29/2024 3:37 PM, Karen Lewellen via Freedos-user wrote: Just wondering. If using freedos exclusively, what tools

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS live stream event with VCF

2024-06-29 Thread Ralf Quint via Freedos-user
On 6/29/2024 3:37 PM, Karen Lewellen via Freedos-user wrote: Just wondering. If using freedos exclusively, what tools would allow you to attend this event? Again, simply curious. Best, Karen Was this supposed to be a trick question? Ralf ___

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS live stream event with VCF

2024-06-29 Thread Karen Lewellen via Freedos-user
Just wondering. If using freedos exclusively, what tools would allow you to attend this event? Again, simply curious. Best, Karen On Sat, 29 Jun 2024, Jim Hall via Freedos-user wrote: Join us today for the VCF Live Stream, hosted by Jeff Brace from the Vintage Computer Federation. I'm plan

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS wiki is temporary offline

2024-06-27 Thread Roger via Freedos-user
A hint, microsoft employees are mad, and they're trying to make a living! On Thu, Jun 27, 2024 at 11:38 AM Jim Hall via Freedos-user < freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote: > I just realized that someone started spamming our wiki yesterday. So I've > taken that down until I can clean it out

Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos-user Digest, Vol 2595, Issue 3

2024-04-10 Thread John via Freedos-user
> Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2024 08:56:58 -0500 > From: Jim Hall > > I think you have experienced what is known as "AI Hallucination" where > the AI just makes stuff up. "I asked ELIZA about this in-depth technical question and here's what she babbled, can you tell me if it's anything approaching conven

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS install

2024-04-07 Thread Robert Riebisch via Freedos-user
Hi Norby, > Thanks to jerome I believe the issue was tryin to install over the old > copy since i fprmated the drive before the install this time and it > worked. I probably should have tried that before sendin out the long > message. My gremlin there. Glad it worked now. > I cannot use vbox s

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS install

2024-04-07 Thread Norby Droid via Freedos-user
Thanks to jerome I believe the issue was tryin to install over the old copy since i fprmated the drive before the install this time and it worked. I probably should have tried that before sendin out the long message. My gremlin there. I cannot use vbox since my pc cannot run it, unless there is

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS install

2024-04-07 Thread Paul Dufresne via Freedos-user
https://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/distributions/test/FDT2404-LiveCD.zip worked for me (in QEMU). I have chosen 'Install to hard disk' from the main menu. Do you install in english? Have you verified the file with https://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/dis

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS install

2024-04-06 Thread Norby Droid via Freedos-user
The install I have wanted to try (in connectix vpc) is the test FreeDOS FDT2404-Live CD.zip from ibiblio. The test fails on both options with or without sources added. TestDisk is where it will always stop. ‘Util\testdisk’ package. A reboot may help. On Sun, Apr 7, 2024 at 01:49 Jerome Shidel vi

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS install

2024-04-06 Thread Jerome Shidel via Freedos-user
Hi, > On Apr 6, 2024, at 8:40 PM, Norby Droid via Freedos-user > wrote: > > One issue I find alot when tryin to install FreeDos is that it would go most > of the way through the install then without any reason and no explanation as > to why, it just stops and says there is a problem so reboo

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS webpage - where can I see more News?

2024-03-10 Thread Jim Hall via Freedos-user
I will need to add a link or button to show more news. Right now, it just shows the latest six news items. The FreeDOS news items are actually stored in the SourceForge News system, and the website pulls from the RSS feed to generate the news items for the front page. Here's the link to our news i

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS 2024 calendar coming soon

2023-12-19 Thread Jim Hall via Freedos-user
Jim Hall wrote: [..] >>> The anniversary is coming up in June 2024. I'm trying to finish a >>> 2024 calendar that you can buy (at low cost, if you want it in print) >>> or download (if you just want the images). I'm trying to finish >>> grading a bunch of university classes that I teach, so I haven

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS 2024 calendar coming soon

2023-12-19 Thread robert roper via Freedos-user
If the calendar is a bunch of engineers in bathing suits, then I'll take 10. On Tue, Dec 19, 2023 at 9:02 AM Gabriele Barbone via Freedos-user < freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote: > Merry Christmas guys and Happy 2024 > > Il dom 17 dic 2023, 20:43 Jim Hall via Freedos-user < > freedos-use

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS 2024 calendar coming soon

2023-12-19 Thread Gabriele Barbone via Freedos-user
Merry Christmas guys and Happy 2024 Il dom 17 dic 2023, 20:43 Jim Hall via Freedos-user < freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net> ha scritto: > (I'm re-sharing this item from my virtual get-together "followup" > email so it gets seen by others) > > > The anniversary is coming up in June 2024. I'm try

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS or DOS based mail clients

2023-11-27 Thread Bret Johnson via Freedos-user
My understanding is that there are two major differences between POP and IMAP. The first is that POP only allows one-way communication (downloading from the server to the client) so there is no synchronization mechanism. If you download the same e-mail to multiple devices, each one can be set

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS or DOS based mail clients

2023-11-27 Thread Eric Auer via Freedos-user
Hi Jose, > PS: The older POP3 only allowed access to the inbox, > while IMAP also allows access to your other mail folders, > so I expect most mail providers to support IMAP now. I thought that folders were a client-side convention, and mail (POP3, IMAP) servers kept all incoming

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS or DOS based mail clients

2023-11-27 Thread Jose Senna via Freedos-user
This is not strictly a DOS remark; it applies to any e-mail but I think it can appear here. Eric Auer said: > PS: The older POP3 only allowed access to the inbox, > while IMAP also allows access to your other mail folders, > so I expect most mail providers to support IMAP now. I thoug

Re: [Freedos-user] freedos, or dos based mail clients?

2023-11-22 Thread Ben Collver via Freedos-user
Karen also asked about this on the lynx-dev mailing list. They reported that panix.com tested squirrelmail and roundcube in lynx and found that neither works because certain controls in both apps are proprietary controls not standard web controls. I don't do email on DOS, but if i did, i would

Re: [Freedos-user] freedos, or dos based mail clients?

2023-11-22 Thread Karen Lewellen via Freedos-user
Hi mart, Eric and all. Sharing more details, thanks for all these ideas. Because there is no direct inclusive tool for me with the combination of adaptive technology I use in Linux, I ssh telnet from my DOS computer into shellworld using the recently updated sshdos program. Further, I use ssh f

Re: [Freedos-user] freedos, or dos based mail clients?

2023-11-22 Thread Karen Lewellen via Freedos-user
As I physically cannot use Linux outside of the shell services I use, that door is possible, just not from my desktop. I do have a question though. Does your configuration give you total access to email contents, folders sent mail, contact lists and the like? I may need to pay someone to do th

Re: [Freedos-user] freedos, or dos based mail clients?

2023-11-22 Thread Mart Zirnask via Freedos-user
Hi, On 22/11/2023, Eric Auer via Freedos-user wrote: > Does anybody here have experience with using a squirrelmail > or roundcoube webmail in links? Might need less java script > compared to gmail to use those, and one could forward the > gmail mail to a mail provider with squirrelmail or roundcu

Re: [Freedos-user] freedos, or dos based mail clients?

2023-11-22 Thread Eric Auer via Freedos-user
Hi! As it seems that sshdos (ssh) and the links text mode browser for DOS support current security protocols and https: Does anybody here have experience with using a squirrelmail or roundcoube webmail in links? Might need less java script compared to gmail to use those, and one could forward

Re: [Freedos-user] freedos, or dos based mail clients?

2023-11-22 Thread Nicholas Bernhard via Freedos-user
I'm using Mutt right now, a command-line email client for Linux. On Tue, Nov 21, 2023 at 07:01:11PM -0600, Rugxulo via Freedos-user wrote: > Hi, > > On Mon, Nov 20, 2023 at 4:17 PM Karen Lewellen via Freedos-user > wrote: > > > > Google intends removing all access to basic HTML, and is forci

Re: [Freedos-user] freedos, or dos based mail clients?

2023-11-21 Thread Rugxulo via Freedos-user
Hi, On Mon, Nov 20, 2023 at 4:17 PM Karen Lewellen via Freedos-user wrote: > > Google intends removing all access to basic HTML, and is forcing the issue > as of today. Did they state a reason? Maintenance burden? Or just better security? Because email was always plain text and pretty insecure.

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS and the Gemini protocol

2023-09-06 Thread Ben Collver via Freedos-user
Another option is to use a gemini proxy. For example: C:\>lynx https://portal.mozz.us/gemini/geminispace.info/search%3Ffreedos This is an indirect way to access gemini://geminispace.info/search?freedos ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS and the Gemini protocol

2023-09-05 Thread Bryan Kilgallin via Freedos-user
Thanks, Paul: gemini://geminispace.info/search?freedos There is a search "button" in top where you can enter term you care about. Here I have given the term "Freedos" to search. I'm using amfora in a terminal window. -- My old iiNet address will die 2 October! Instead, send to my new addres

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS and the Gemini protocol

2023-09-04 Thread Paul Dufresne via Freedos-user
Le sam., 26 août 2023 03:52:41 -0400 Bryan Kilgallin via Freedos-user a écrit > I have installed amfora in a Ubuntu PC. And I briefly looked in the > CAPCOM aggregator. > > But I feel lost! Please advise a newbie on browsing Gemini content. > -- gemini://geminispace.info/sear

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS and the Gemini protocol

2023-08-26 Thread Bryan Kilgallin via Freedos-user
Thanks, Paul: I recently learn of the Gemini protocol. I apologise for slowness getting-around-to my e-Mail Inbox contents. Gemini is a group of technologies similar to the ones that lie behind your familiar web browser. Using Gemini, you can explore an online collection of written document

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS and the Gemini protocol

2023-08-20 Thread Paul Dufresne via Freedos-user
Le Sat, 19 Aug 2023 04:52:05 -0400 Michał Dec a écrit > Hello Paul, > > You could've said "Gopher with TLS". Well, I did not known much Gopher (that seems to have come down in popularity at the end of the nineties). I think Gemini is about middle ground between Gopher and HTML.

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS and the Gemini protocol

2023-08-19 Thread Michał Dec via Freedos-user
Hello Paul, You could've said "Gopher with TLS". Best regards, Michał W dniu 19.08.2023 o 09:11, Paul Dufresne via Freedos-user pisze: I recently learn of the Gemini protocol. What is the Gemini protocol? "1.1.1 The dense, jargony answer for geeks in a hurry Gemini is an application-level

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS and the Gemini protocol

2023-08-19 Thread Mateusz Viste via Freedos-user
On 19/08/2023 09:11, Paul Dufresne via Freedos-user wrote: I am writing this here, because I believe the low-resource needed to run a Gemini Browser is appropriate for FreeDOS. Gemini is an invention that shoehorns a gopher-like protocol into TLS. TLS is everything but "low ressource". For a

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS code page Unicode compatibility

2023-06-13 Thread Ralf Quint
On 6/13/2023 11:08 AM, Jose Senna wrote: Vacek Nules said: I'd like to ask the community's opinion and possible endorsements to get the UTC to accept the [Forint] symbol Is the Forint still in use in Hungary ? Yes, it is still the official currency of Hungary. They apparently didn't swit

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS code page Unicode compatibility

2023-06-13 Thread Ralf Quint
On 6/13/2023 1:42 AM, EdzUp wrote: Hi,    To be fair this seems like a very good idea mainly because any barriers to FreeDOS use and acceptance should be removed and this seems like a reasonably easy thing to do as it already is there. -Ed Much less of a good idea (not referring to the issu

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS code page Unicode compatibility

2023-06-13 Thread EdzUp
Hi, To be fair this seems like a very good idea mainly because any barriers to FreeDOS use and acceptance should be removed and this seems like a reasonably easy thing to do as it already is there. -Ed On Mon, 12 Jun 2023, 22:58 Vacek Nules, wrote: > Hi everyone, > > I'm Vacek Nules, a softw

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS 1.3-RC3 News!

2023-06-07 Thread Aitor Santamaría
Hello, On Wed, 7 Jun 2023 at 11:27, wrote: > On Mon, 25 May 2020 at 13:26, Jerome Shidel wrote: > >> >> Why keyb need a 286, it’s a keyboard mapper? >> > > It does not: KEYB /9 should work on 8088 class machines. > > > Wow, this is an old thread (over 3 years)! > Well I am a little behind on m

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS 1.3-RC3 News!

2023-06-07 Thread Ralf Quint
On 6/7/2023 3:44 AM, Liam Proven wrote: On Wed, 7 Jun 2023 at 10:28, wrote: Being an English language and keyboard user, I neither use nor possess knowledge on using various NLS support programs like KEYB. Small but important point. The majority of English speakers are not Americans and we d

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS 1.3-RC3 News!

2023-06-07 Thread Liam Proven
On Wed, 7 Jun 2023 at 10:28, wrote: > Being an English language and keyboard user, I neither use nor possess > knowledge on using various NLS support programs like KEYB. Small but important point. The majority of English speakers are not Americans and we don't use the American keyboard layout.

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS 1.3-RC3 News!

2023-06-07 Thread jerome
Hi Aitor, > On Jun 6, 2023, at 6:19 PM, Aitor Santamaría wrote: > > Hello Jerome, > > On Mon, 25 May 2020 at 13:26, Jerome Shidel > wrote: > > Why keyb need a 286, it’s a keyboard mapper? > > It does not: KEYB /9 should work on 8088 class machines. Wow, this is an

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS 1.3-RC3 News!

2023-06-06 Thread Aitor Santamaría
Hello Jerome, On Mon, 25 May 2020 at 13:26, Jerome Shidel wrote: > > Why keyb need a 286, it’s a keyboard mapper? > It does not: KEYB /9 should work on 8088 class machines. Aitor ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https:

Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos, laptops, and the internet?

2023-06-03 Thread Karen Lewellen
Hi there, I have not chosen the machine yet, intended to choose based on freedos requirements for networking. as I require a serial port though, modern as sometimes defined by others is less likely, but the physical port is an absolute must. still this is helpful, if I locate say a thinkpad wit

Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos, laptops, and the internet?

2023-06-03 Thread Omar Yabar via Freedos-user
Hello Karen, turning back to your original question, there is a plenty of network chips freedos friendly, in order to know what chip is in your laptop you can use Astra http://www.sysinfolab.com/download.htm last version May 04, 2023, most popular network chip is Realtek RTL8111, RTL8168, RTL816

Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos, laptops, and the internet?

2023-06-03 Thread Karen Lewellen
I respect you realize this is not what I am seeking. while the idea is absolutely not a door for me, perhaps others will find it useful. On Sat, 3 Jun 2023, Ben Collver wrote: I realize this is not exactly what you are looking for, but another option is an RS-232 WIFI modem.  Below are eBa

Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos, laptops, and the internet?

2023-06-03 Thread Karen Lewellen
Others are better with links then myself. If someone does not provide it, may I suggest searching for the term updated ssh for dos? Should bring up the package. Sorry, Kare On Fri, 2 Jun 2023, tauro via Freedos-user wrote: That's great news! Where can it be found? Would you please share a

Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos, laptops, and the internet?

2023-06-03 Thread Dan Schmidt
https://github.com/AnttiTakala/SSH2DOS Unfortunately, it did not seem to work anymore last time I tried it. It may be possible to enable some legacy ciphers on the ssh server to make it work. Personally, I telnet to another PC and and ssh from there. On Fri, Jun 2, 2023 at 7:42 PM tauro via Fre

Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos, laptops, and the internet?

2023-06-02 Thread Ben Collver
I realize this is not exactly what you are looking for, but another option is an RS-232 WIFI modem.  Below are eBay links for four ready-made products, plus a link describing how to DIY with a Raspberry Pi.  All of these options are powered by a USB cable. I am guessing that a system with a Pen

Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos, laptops, and the internet?

2023-06-02 Thread tauro via Freedos-user
That's great news! Where can it be found? Would you please share a link to it? Thank you Tauro On 2/6/23 21:10, Karen Lewellen wrote: Yes, actually. someone updated sshdos so that it can support more current dh keys and so forth. Using it as I write in fact. On Fri, 2 Jun 2023, tauro via

Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos, laptops, and the internet?

2023-06-02 Thread Karen Lewellen
Yes, actually. someone updated sshdos so that it can support more current dh keys and so forth. Using it as I write in fact. On Fri, 2 Jun 2023, tauro via Freedos-user wrote: Since you're talking about the internet, considering one is successful setting up the NIC, Is there a fully workin

Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos, laptops, and the internet?

2023-06-02 Thread Karen Lewellen
thanks for sharing your perspective. I am using pure DOS, including the packet driver setup for my desktop right now. My hope, as You provide here, is a list of suitable network hardware, cards or on board, that can manage the task. If it is not freedos specific, meaning freedos can manage any

Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos, laptops, and the internet?

2023-06-02 Thread tauro via Freedos-user
Since you're talking about the internet, considering one is successful setting up the NIC, Is there a fully working/updated SSH client for DOS? With support for current ciphers, MACs and kex algorithms? Tauro ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-

Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos, laptops, and the internet?

2023-06-02 Thread Michał Dec
Hi, FreeDOS can be used to access a network if your network card has a DOS driver. Those are usually provided by the manufacturer of said card. You'll probably want a "packet driver", but I think someone who has more experience with networking under DOS would be able to give you better info.

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS 1.3-RC3 floppy ideas

2023-05-05 Thread Aitor Santamaría
Hi, On Sun, 5 Jul 2020 at 18:46, Eric Auer wrote: > > Probably just pull COUNTRY.SYS in favor of MKEYB. > > Make sure to check whether MKEYB works on 8086: It might > require AT level BIOS functionality. > If that ever becomes a problem, FD-KEYB implements the /9 switch to use in non-AT class m

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS/V

2023-05-04 Thread Aitor Santamaría
Hi, On Thu, 4 May 2023 at 20:38, Ralf Quint wrote: > > * Collating/lowercase/uppercase tables, which in turn implies that > > DBCS are handled where strings are handled, and my worry is about > > filenames: how are filenames stored? how does it relate to 8.3 > > limitation, does it become 4.1 or

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS/V

2023-05-04 Thread Ralf Quint
On 5/3/2023 12:29 PM, Aitor Santamaría wrote: Hello! Although I am some years late, my thoughts on this thread. By the way, a very interesting thread on localisation for a hard case (the need for DBCS). Well,.. These thoughts are provided from the simple logic, not knowing about DOS/V. In

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS/V

2023-05-03 Thread Aitor Santamaría
Hello! Although I am some years late, my thoughts on this thread. By the way, a very interesting thread on localisation for a hard case (the need for DBCS). These thoughts are provided from the simple logic, not knowing about DOS/V. In my understanding, supporting Japanese would *at least* requir

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS in proxmox

2022-12-21 Thread tom ehlert
> Right. I thought about it later and wondered what the other DOS > stacks did. What does MS-NET MS-NET is resident software, and AFAIR ping-able. > or Trumpet do? I have no idea. > Probably the same thing > as mTCP and WATTCP. nope. Tom ___ F

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS in proxmox

2022-12-21 Thread Louis Santillan
Right. I thought about it later and wondered what the other DOS stacks did. What does MS-NET or Trumpet do? Probably the same thing as mTCP and WATTCP. I remember using ping in DOS to ensure connectivity to Gateways and DNS, but I wasn't running any servers so there was little reason to ping th

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS in proxmox

2022-12-21 Thread Michael Brutman
Read the documentation for whatever networking software you are using. mTCP in particular is not a "resident" program, so your FreeDOS machine will not respond to ping requests unless an mTCP program is actively running. WATTCP programs have the same behavior.

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS in proxmox

2022-12-19 Thread Louis Santillan
Can you ping in the other direction? It may be that the bridged vmbr0 interface does not pass or there is nothing in the networking stack that listens for ICMP packets. See also https://forum.proxmox.com/threads/solved-cant-ping-windows-vm.65736/ On Mon, Dec 19, 2022 at 2:42 AM Trever Noggle w

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS in proxmox

2022-12-19 Thread Trever Noggle
That worked.  Thank you.  I did discover that I now have network access in freedos but it does not respond to ping requests.  There are no firewall rules that would prevent this on my lan and I removed the check in the firewall box in proxmox for this host. Is there something that needs to be s

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS in proxmox

2022-12-19 Thread Louis Santillan
I just setup Proxmox 7.3.3 to do some testing Brett Johnson. Had no issues installing FD 1.3. Chose "OS Type" as "Other", switched "Network Device" to "rtl8139" and "Firewall" as "1". Installed by hand packages "FDNET", "MTCP", "CRYNWR". There's no option for passthru or private on the "Networ

Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos 1.3

2022-10-27 Thread Maruko Marchena
good day to all, a query, how can I get FreeDOS, according to HP told me that I have to request them from you to be able to generate the tests with your equipment, otherwise, the guarantee does not continue. First of all, Thanks El jue, 27 oct 2022 a la(s) 09:42, Dale E Sterner (sunbeam...@juno.co

Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos 1.3

2022-10-27 Thread Dale E Sterner
Thank for the tip; I had no idea that could be done. I delete the s from the url and hit return it worked. I wonder what they are using now for cerificates, my browzer is loaded for bear and I still cann't connect. cheers DS On Mon, 17 Oct 2022 11:51:58 -0400 Jerome Shidel writes: > Hi, > >

Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos 1.3

2022-10-17 Thread Lukas Satin
Yes, or if you want to have HTTPS in WinXP, you can set up retro https proxy gateway on 2nd machine (Linux router, Raspberry Pi or newer Windows 7/10 device, MacOS etc). I recommend WebOne project: https://www.vogons.org/viewtopic.php?t=67165 On Mon, Oct 17, 2022 at 5:53 PM Jerome Shidel wrote:

Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos 1.3

2022-10-17 Thread Jerome Shidel
Hi, > On Oct 17, 2022, at 10:43 AM, Dale E Sterner wrote: > > > I recently tried to download Freedos 1.3 and had a problem. > I used XPsp2 ; the download failed with a " unable to complete > secure transaction". Your download source is too restricted. > > > > cheers > DS This is probably

Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos 1.3

2022-10-17 Thread Dale E Sterner
I recently tried to download Freedos 1.3 and had a problem. I used XPsp2 ; the download failed with a " unable to complete secure transaction". Your download source is too restricted. cheers DS ** >From Dale Sterner - MS organic che

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS virtual get-togethers in 2022

2022-10-02 Thread John Vella
A good work-life balance is really important, so I guess I'll see you guys next year! 😁 On Mon, 3 Oct 2022, 00:31 Jim Hall, wrote: > Hi everyone! > > I've managed to overload myself - that's good for a consultant, but > bad for work-life balance. (That's also why I've been so silent on > email l

Re: [Freedos-user] [Freedos-devel] mkeyb us: don't need a driver for US... BUT I AM NOT IN US!

2022-08-14 Thread Aitor Santamaría
Hello, And there we go with the example I was referring to in my previous email: the same language requiring two keyboard layouts (possibly two codepages too). Well, I seem to understand that your problem is with the installer: it should have given you the option to choose Canada/French to use a n

Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos-user Digest, Vol 2243, Issue 2

2022-05-17 Thread Daniel
Well, I have been foolin around with the files. Here is what I have done so far and what I haven’t done, but would like to: I copied FDAUTO.BAT and FDCONFIG.SYS to NDAUTO.BAT and NDCONFIG.SYS Done: I edited ndauto.bat how I liked it leavin fdauto.bat alone in case of a problem. As mentioned I e

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS Partitioning

2022-05-08 Thread Eric Auer
Hi Daniel! I am tryin to install FD on a Dell PC with an 80 gb partition. I tried as I prefered it spliting into 4 partitions, and as one large partition. When I boot into the live CD all seems fine, but after it does the formating and installing, I get a bunch of errors about the partitins.

Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos-user Digest, Vol 2235, Issue 2

2022-04-26 Thread Daniel
Has anyone looked into using x86Box as an alternative to vmware and virtualbox to run FreeDOS and other old operating systems? On Tue, Apr 26, 2022 at 8:33 AM wrote: > Send Freedos-user mailing list submissions to > freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via

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