Re: [Audyssey] warcraft

2009-01-12 Thread jason
Yes I second this question. it's sound like a cool fantacy game, and my cousins in California play it and they even belong to a guild. I wish it was accessible for the blind. I would like to participate inthe game of World of Warcraft sometime. some time. Sincerely, Jason known as Blind

[Audyssey] labeling graphics of the game

2009-01-12 Thread jason
I guess it's impossible to label the graphics or have the developers of World of Warcraft do that. It is just a suggestion. Sincerely, Jason known as Blind Fury windowslive contact kb3...@msn.com skype contact kb3icc --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list,

Re: [Audyssey] labeling graphics of the game

2009-01-12 Thread James Homuth
It's not that kind of graphics. These are actual, 2d or 3d pictures. Images, if you will. And not very easy for standard OCR technology to pick up, since you can't very well OCR a person or a building. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org

[Audyssey] question aboout video game developers

2009-01-12 Thread jason
I have a question why is it so hard for a developer to make their games accessible for disabilities. it's just to hard to go out of their way to do this. , or we just a minority? I mean video games have been out for years now, and you would think they would get the hint? wow it's amazing

[Audyssey] monkey Business

2009-01-12 Thread Hayri Tulumcu
How do I get to level 6 of monkey business? --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All

Re: [Audyssey] monkey Business

2009-01-12 Thread Willem
Complete level 5? Sorry, I couldn't resist. Be more speciffic. What is your problem? Hayri Tulumcu wrote: How do I get to level 6 of monkey business? --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes

Re: [Audyssey] monkey Business

2009-01-12 Thread Hayri Tulumcu
when I have completed level 5 then skips game to level 7 - Original Message - From: Willem dwill...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, January 12, 2009 11:45 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] monkey Business Complete level 5? Sorry, I couldn't

Re: [Audyssey] monkey Business

2009-01-12 Thread Bryan Peterson
So far you don't. Level six seems to be missing and Draconis doesn't seem able to figure out why. - Original Message - From: Hayri Tulumcu ha...@ka-net.dk To: Gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, January 12, 2009 2:28 AM Subject: [Audyssey] monkey Business How do I get to level 6 of

Re: [Audyssey] question aboout video game developers

2009-01-12 Thread The Kolesar Brothers
Now this is true. Why must everything have to be special? Now let's blind fold the 99 percent who don't have a blind family member, a blind friend or doesn't work with a blind person. With phisical force feedback, I wished that the wei system was blind friendly. I even offered to beta test

Re: [Audyssey] Audeasy mag not on Kelly's site

2009-01-12 Thread Kelly Sapergia
Hi Dark, I'm aware of this issue and should be getting issues 51 through 54 at some point. Thanks. Yours Sincerely, Kelly John Sapergia Personal Website: http://www.ksapergia.net Need to relax and unwind? Listen to Northern Lights, Thursdays from 01:00 to 03:00 GMT (Wednesdays in North

Re: [Audyssey] Audeasy mag not on Kelly's site

2009-01-12 Thread william lomas
where is the latest issue anyways lol haven't seen it any news from draconis in it yet? On 12 Jan 2009, at 14:34, Kelly Sapergia wrote: Hi Dark, I'm aware of this issue and should be getting issues 51 through 54 at some point. Thanks. Yours Sincerely, Kelly John Sapergia Personal

Re: [Audyssey] Audeasy mag not on Kelly's site

2009-01-12 Thread Ron Schamerhorn
Hi William it came out over the weekend. You should have it by now. HTH Ron - Original Message - From: william lomas lomaswill...@googlemail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, January 12, 2009 9:47 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Audeasy mag not on Kelly's

Re: [Audyssey] Audeasy mag not on Kelly's site

2009-01-12 Thread william lomas
nope dont think so On 12 Jan 2009, at 14:50, Ron Schamerhorn wrote: Hi William it came out over the weekend. You should have it by now. HTH Ron - Original Message - From: william lomas lomaswill...@googlemail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, January

Re: [Audyssey] question aboout video game developers

2009-01-12 Thread Dakotah Rickard
Well, while I agree that there are many games which would only require slight tweeking to make them accessible, there are many more which would require an overhaul of the entire game structure. Consider the popular game, The Sims. If one wanted to make that accessible, first of all, they would

Re: [Audyssey] monkey Business

2009-01-12 Thread Charles Rivard
By completing level 5? --- If guns cause crime, pencils cause misspelled words. - Original Message - From: Hayri Tulumcu ha...@ka-net.dk To: Gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, January 12, 2009 1:28 AM Subject: [Audyssey] monkey Business How do I get to level 6 of monkey business? ---

Re: [Audyssey] monkey Business

2009-01-12 Thread Hayri Tulumcu
yes - Original Message - From: Charles Rivard woofer...@sbcglobal.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, January 12, 2009 7:34 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] monkey Business By completing level 5? --- If guns cause crime, pencils cause misspelled words. -

[Audyssey] Railracer

2009-01-12 Thread rrhopkins
Hello. Was wondering when I go to download railracer the latest version it won't let me do it says the page can't be found, is that part of the site down? --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make

[Audyssey] .NET Framework 3.5 or .NET Framework 3.5 SP1?

2009-01-12 Thread Hayri Tulumcu
can i install. NET Framework V 3.5 Service Pack 1 or should i install. NET Framework 3.5 V first? --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the

[Audyssey] fallthrough darkwater cave stuck?

2009-01-12 Thread dark
Hi. well I've got into darkwater cave, or at least into the dome. there seems to be something odd going on though. i can walk through several passages, one of which has a huge door with a symbol on it which lead to a dead end, the symbol on the door just seems to be a sign of

Re: [Audyssey] monkey Business

2009-01-12 Thread Ryan Strunk
Hayri, If you're referring to the Wild West level, which I believe is level 6, I don't believe you can access that level at the moment. I read somewhere recently that there is a bug which makes that level inaccessible. If you're asking how to beat the Aztec temple, that's a different story.

Re: [Audyssey] Audeasy mag not on Kelly's site

2009-01-12 Thread Charles Rivard
I haven't gotten it, either. Is my understanding correct in that we, as members of this list, automatically get it in our inboxes? If so, something's screwy somewhere, because, as I say, I haven't received it. If members don't get a copy, where's the best source to download it rather than

Re: [Audyssey] Audeasy mag not on Kelly's site

2009-01-12 Thread Ron Schamerhorn
Hi Charles That's odd and something that I don't understand. The issue arrived here with no trouble. I am having trouble posting to the announce list getting a 504 error so perhaps there is some reason connected to that. Though it does seem strange that some get the issue from the list

Re: [Audyssey] .NET Framework 3.5 or .NET Framework 3.5 SP1?

2009-01-12 Thread Chris Hallsworth
Install .Net Framework 3.5 first before service pack 1. -- Chris Hallsworth E-mail: christopherhallswort...@googlemail.com MSN: ch9...@hotmail.com Skype: chrishallsworth7266 - Original Message - From: Hayri Tulumcu ha...@ka-net.dk To: gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, January 12, 2009

Re: [Audyssey] Audeasy mag not on Kelly's site

2009-01-12 Thread Jose Lomeli (On pc)
I haven't got it either! - Original Message - From: Charles Rivard woofer...@sbcglobal.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, January 12, 2009 11:37 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Audeasy mag not on Kelly's site I haven't gotten it, either. Is my understanding

Re: [Audyssey] .NET Framework 3.5 or .NET Framework 3.5 SP1?

2009-01-12 Thread Hayri Tulumcu
I thought that you could just download it fulle package .NET Framework 3.5 SP 1 and then installed both So .NET Framework 3.5 and .NET Framework 3.5 SP 1 fulle package: http://download.microsoft.com/download/2/0/e/20e90413-712f-438c-988e-fdaa79a8ac3d/dotnetfx35.exe -

Re: [Audyssey] [Spam] Re: Audeasy mag not on Kelly's site

2009-01-12 Thread dark
one of the reasons I wanted links to the issue for audiogames.net is that I couldn't get the archived version from either the announce only list or, funnily enough, this one! for the announce list I got the 504 you mentioned, and the post with the issue didn't seem to show up in the public

Re: [Audyssey] .NET Framework 3.5 or .NET Framework 3.5 SP1?

2009-01-12 Thread Darren Harris
Wouldn't it just come as part of the windows update download? -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Hayri Tulumcu Sent: 12 January 2009 19:36 To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] .NET Framework 3.5 or .NET

Re: [Audyssey] Audio rpgs

2009-01-12 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Dark, Hmmm... I don't know about that. The GMA and Genesis engines were not designed for RPG style games. As for Genesis I know RPG's are currently not possible. I mainly designed it for First person and Third Person style games. dark wrote: Interesting plan and I agree a good idea.

Re: [Audyssey] Eternal Darkness was wii, xbox 360...

2009-01-12 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi, yeah, the game likes to screw with your mind on more than one level. Definitely not for the faint of heart. Grin. Bryan Peterson wrote: Don't forget Microsoft's infamous blue screen of death. The game even throws some effects at you that make you think your game is acting up. The worst

Re: [Audyssey] Eternal Darkness was wii, xbox 360...

2009-01-12 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Bryan, Yeah, right. I was getting Eternal Darkness and Silent Hill reversed. Silent Hill is the game for the Play Station. Eternal Darkness was for the Nintendo Game Cube. Thanks for unfuzzing my brain. Lol! Bryan Peterson wrote: It's actually Game Cube Thomas, not Play Station. ---

Re: [Audyssey] .NET Framework 3.5 or .NET Framework 3.5 SP1?

2009-01-12 Thread Willem
It would, but it would take more bandwidth. Windows update also doesn't install dotNet 3.5 for you. Darren Harris wrote: Wouldn't it just come as part of the windows update download? --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to

Re: [Audyssey] Audeasy mag not on Kelly's site

2009-01-12 Thread Willem
It's probably laying in some peoples webmail spam folders. It's strange how some messages that really isn't spam gets flagged as spam. Ron Schamerhorn wrote: Hi Charles That's odd and something that I don't understand. The issue arrived here with no trouble. I am having trouble posting to

Re: [Audyssey] Question about audeasy mag

2009-01-12 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Dark, Technically the Audyssey web site should be the main archive, but since Raul has changed jobs he hasn't had time to do that. Perhaps I'll talk to Raul and see if he will let me do the web site updates myself. For the time being Kelly's web site and Audiogames.net are the best two

Re: [Audyssey] Question about audeasy mag

2009-01-12 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Ron, Please, send me a copy of that zip file as well. I'll talk to Raul this week about getting the Audysey web site updated with the magazines. Ron Schamerhorn wrote: Hi Dark I do attempt to check the links and keep them accurate. I will be [with any luck] sending a zip file off to

Re: [Audyssey] Question about audeasy mag

2009-01-12 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Charles, Issue 54 came out Sunday afternoon. HTH. Charles Rivard wrote: When did the last issue come out, and which issue is it? Thanks. --- If guns cause crime, pencils cause misspelled words. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to

Re: [Audyssey] labeling graphics of the game

2009-01-12 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Jason, No, you can't label the graphics with a screen reader. The kind of graphics you are thinking of and the graphics in the vidio game are two completely different things. It is one thing to label a toolbar and quite another when trying to label graphics for a vidio game. It is

Re: [Audyssey] .NET Framework 3.5 or .NET Framework 3.5 SP1?

2009-01-12 Thread Willem
It could download the service pack for you, but why do that when you can install the new framework, service pack included? If you already have .net 3.5 installed, the short answer is yes. Darren Harris wrote: But would it not just download the update and then you tell it to install like you

Re: [Audyssey] .NET Framework 3.5 or .NET Framework 3.5 SP1?

2009-01-12 Thread shaun everiss
it should come as part of the windows update download. note though that you will not be able to install dotnet with service packs just like that you need to run windows update twice as its 2 packages. At 09:27 a.m. 13/01/2009, you wrote: Wouldn't it just come as part of the windows update

Re: [Audyssey] Eternal Darkness was wii, xbox 360...

2009-01-12 Thread shaun everiss
since we are on the subject of console game and accessible games in general, I would like a game like the hidden and dangerous series, you are a soldier, but you can command your tank, but also any enemy vehicles/bases you capture. Speaking on the console front, I have found that starwars lego

Re: [Audyssey] .NET Framework 3.5 or .NET Framework 3.5 SP1?

2009-01-12 Thread shaun everiss
it should. At least it did for me. At 10:07 a.m. 13/01/2009, you wrote: It would, but it would take more bandwidth. Windows update also doesn't install dotNet 3.5 for you. Darren Harris wrote: Wouldn't it just come as part of the windows update download? --- Gamers mailing list __

Re: [Audyssey] Audeasy mag not on Kelly's site

2009-01-12 Thread shaun everiss
yeah lagit stuff gets flagged as spam often and spam becomes lagit. Who knows. At 10:09 a.m. 13/01/2009, you wrote: It's probably laying in some peoples webmail spam folders. It's strange how some messages that really isn't spam gets flagged as spam. Ron Schamerhorn wrote: Hi Charles That's

Re: [Audyssey] .NET Framework 3.5 or .NET Framework 3.5 SP1?

2009-01-12 Thread shaun everiss
depends what and when you updated, I know it now does 3.5 as an update. should automatically install. Note though that this could be an optional update so if you don't see it as a critical then you need to use the windows update site and install the optional. after that any criticals to the

Re: [Audyssey] question about video game developers

2009-01-12 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Jason, It is a lot more complicated than you perhaps realize. There is a lot more involved than a choice to have or not have accessibility. You and others might find this difficult to except, but there are some things that can never be and never will be accessible to us for a number of

Re: [Audyssey] .NET Framework 3.5 or .NET Framework 3.5 SP1?

2009-01-12 Thread Willem
Remember, it's an optional download, so to get it through windows update you have to do it manually through the windows update service. shaun everiss wrote: it should come as part of the windows update download. note though that you will not be able to install dotnet with service packs just

Re: [Audyssey] monkey Business

2009-01-12 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Hayri, That is a well known bug in the latest releases of Monkey Business. Draconis Entertainment is aware of the problem, but can't effectively reproduce and fix that bug. If you have the bug i recommend downgrading to an earlier release before said bug started appearing. Hayri Tulumcu

Re: [Audyssey] Eternal Darkness was wii, xbox 360...

2009-01-12 Thread Bryan Peterson
As I've said before it's the only game that ever came close to giving me nightmares. You don't even have to be able to see - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, January 12, 2009 2:01 PM Subject: Re:

Re: [Audyssey] Railracer

2009-01-12 Thread Che
Hi, If you need a download for rail racer and you have a serial key, you can email me directly at c...@blindadrenaline.com Later, Che - Original Message - From: rrhopk...@earthlink.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, January 12, 2009 12:21 PM Subject:

Re: [Audyssey] question about video game developers

2009-01-12 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi, The don't call us we will call you mentality is the usual responce from major corperations. Let's face the truth. They don't want to hear from us. We are simply an annoying minority to them. The Kolesar Brothers wrote: Now this is true. Why must everything have to be special? Now let's

Re: [Audyssey] Audeasy mag not on Kelly's site

2009-01-12 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Will, Check your inbox. If you have a lot of messages in your inbox chanses are you simply missed it. william lomas wrote: where is the latest issue anyways lol haven't seen it any news from draconis in it yet? --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the

[Audyssey] Issue 54?

2009-01-12 Thread Zachary Kline
Hi All, I am pretty sure I didn't miss much from my inbox last night. Nevertheless, I'm a little puzzled as to the whereabouts of Audyssey magazine, Issue 54. I can't seem to find it on any of the usual archive sites, nor is it in the gamer's list archive for that matter. I'm wondering

Re: [Audyssey] question about video game developers

2009-01-12 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Dakotah, Well said. My thoughts exactly. As a game developer myself i certainly know many games can be made accessible. on the other hand there are limits to how far I can go with accessibility. Obviously anything specifically requiring vision won't work at all. Often times there is simply

[Audyssey] Moving up in Lusternia

2009-01-12 Thread Che
Hi gang, Not sure if any folks here are playing the Lusternia mud or not, but it is really good so far. I joined about 3 days ago, I'm currently circle 10, but I'm not sure what I should be training at this point. I am a paladin, and so far I've been concentrating on knighthood. Also, I

Re: [Audyssey] .NET Framework 3.5 or .NET Framework 3.5 SP1?

2009-01-12 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Hayri, It depends if your service pack is the upgrade or the full install. The full install is several hundred MB in size. if you have that version go ahead and install it. if you only have the little upgrade then you need to get the .NET 3.5 setup, install it, and then apply the SP1

[Audyssey] Sale On Rail Racer ending this week

2009-01-12 Thread Che
Hi all, The holiday sale on Rail Racer will be ending this Friday at midnight, at which time the price will be returning to $33. Right now the price is $19.95. If you haven't tried this game, you are really missing out, especially when it comes to online play. Rail Racer was voted game

[Audyssey] Moderator note Audeasy mag not on Kelly's site

2009-01-12 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Charles and all, First, by being a member of this list everyone should automatically recieve the magazine when it is posted. however, as passed releases have proven not everyone actually recieves it for some reason. Neither Raul or I have been able to figure out exactly why not everyone

Re: [Audyssey] Audeasy mag not on Kelly's site

2009-01-12 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Dark and all, No, the magazine is not saved in the archives. The archives has a max of 8 KB per message. The mag is much larger so the archives won't save it. dark wrote: one of the reasons I wanted links to the issue for audiogames.net is that I couldn't get the archived version from

Re: [Audyssey] Sale On Rail Racer ending this week

2009-01-12 Thread Constantine
Yep, was defenetely worth my purchase of nearly 50 canadian dollars. It takes a bit of getting used to, which is why most people may not like it right off. I'm tempted to quote a review here but won't. Anyway, just try it for a long while. I had to, but I finally learned most techniques.

Re: [Audyssey] fallthrough darkwater cave stuck?

2009-01-12 Thread Shadow Dragon
I have to say this is probably one of the tougher puzzles in the game. And its going to be rather hard to give a hint for without giving the solution away, but I can try I suppose. Possible Spoiler It does involve that stairway leading down. The game doesn't acknowledge the door as a door

[Audyssey] Speedwalking in vipMud

2009-01-12 Thread Che
Hi all, I am trying to get speedwalking working in VIPMud. I have followed all directions in the help file, but when I execute the speed walk, I only take the first step and stop. I have turned slow walking on, and set a trigger to send #ok after each step. Anybody got this to work on muds

Re: [Audyssey] Speedwalking in vipMud

2009-01-12 Thread Orin
Hmm. Lasternia has directions in help files? Now that I didn't see when I last played there. On Jan 12, 2009, at 9:25 PM, Che wrote: Hi all, I am trying to get speedwalking working in VIPMud. I have followed all directions in the help file, but when I execute the speed walk, I only take

Re: [Audyssey] Speedwalking in vipMud

2009-01-12 Thread Orin
Ah oops. Nevermind... On Jan 12, 2009, at 9:25 PM, Che wrote: Hi all, I am trying to get speedwalking working in VIPMud. I have followed all directions in the help file, but when I execute the speed walk, I only take the first step and stop. I have turned slow walking on, and set a trigger

[Audyssey] Mk vs DCU: combo challenges for the blind.

2009-01-12 Thread Yohandy
This is a text file I'm creating that will eventually contain all combo challenges. link is at the bottom of this email. You guys can add to it if you wish, and reupload. If people contribute, we can probably finish it much quicker for everyone's benefit. A couple things I want to point out: 1.

[Audyssey] something else I forgot to point out about combo challenge. important!

2009-01-12 Thread Yohandy
If you complete some challenges and wish to quit the game, whatever you do, do not! use the quit option without exiting to the main menu first. The challenges are only saved once the game fully exits to the main menu. If you press the ps button and exit without going to the main menu first, all

Re: [Audyssey] Moving up in Lusternia

2009-01-12 Thread shaun everiss
what address do you go to for starwars? At 12:15 p.m. 13/01/2009, you wrote: Che: I Have a character also on their. My character name is Marham. I just went there once or twice. Want to go back there but I spend a lot of time on Miriani and Star Wars. -Original Message- From:

[Audyssey] ts2 tracks and cars

2009-01-12 Thread shaun everiss
Hi. this is for those that posted off and on list about this stuff. http://www.divshare.com/download/6308462-b1e --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the

Re: [Audyssey] Mk vs DCU: combo challenges for the blind.

2009-01-12 Thread Liam Erven
Very cool. How did you find out that info. Or was it a lot of guess work. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Yohandy Sent: Monday, January 12, 2009 11:11 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: [Audyssey] Mk vs DCU:

Re: [Audyssey] fallthrough darkwater cave stuck?

2009-01-12 Thread dark
Hi. Yep, on my one occasion getting into the cave I did notice the leaches of doom. The problem is for some very odd reason, I'm not sure what triggers that stairway down to appear or not, it just seems to randomly appear or not at some points, which is a litle frustrating. To be honest

Re: [Audyssey] fallthrough darkwater cave stuck?

2009-01-12 Thread Liam Erven
You know. I could never get started in fallthrough. I always died in the first two minutes. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of dark Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2009 1:24 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: