Re: [Audyssey] BrailleSoft No Longer Supports Freedom Scientific

2010-08-09 Thread clement chou
Hm. I'm curious... why are there so many people who don't like eloquence? --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at

Re: [Audyssey] Mainstream gaming

2010-08-09 Thread Ben
Could you try for me... I need that game... -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of clement chou Sent: 08 August 2010 09:42 To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Mainstream gaming I could probably dig it up...

Re: [Audyssey] BrailleSoft No Longer Supports Freedom Scientific

2010-08-09 Thread Ben
Now I think that's worse than jfw. Jfw has a 40 minute limit and the demo is free, although it is restricted... but having to pay for an unrestricted demo... that's just utterly ludicrous! -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On

Re: [Audyssey] BrailleSoft No Longer Supports Freedom Scientific

2010-08-09 Thread Ben
Ahhh thanks for that information but as I say. I'm stuck with jfw -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Thomas Ward Sent: 08 August 2010 09:56 To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] BrailleSoft No Longer Supports

Re: [Audyssey] BrailleSoft No Longer Supports Freedom Scientific

2010-08-09 Thread Ben
Can you do anything else with the voices apart from pitch... -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Brandon Misch Sent: 08 August 2010 18:58 To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] BrailleSoft No Longer Supports

Re: [Audyssey] GoldWave experts, please help!

2010-08-09 Thread Ben
Check what devices you are using. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Yohandy Sent: 08 August 2010 19:07 To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] GoldWave experts, please help! yup I know, however even when set

Re: [Audyssey] Sryth Quickstone

2010-08-09 Thread Ben
How do you get tocans -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Orin Sent: 08 August 2010 22:05 To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: [Audyssey] Sryth Quickstone Hi all, Anyone know the quickest way to get 15K? I now have 6K. I

Re: [Audyssey] mainstream gaming

2010-08-09 Thread clement chou
Could, but probably don't have much of a chance.. doubt I have it still, and don't quite get why so many people are after this MK... it's been universally agreed on by MK fans that 4 was a mistake that should never have happened. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to

Re: [Audyssey] BrailleSoft No Longer Supports Freedom Scientific

2010-08-09 Thread Stephen
Keep in mind that when I did pay for this evaluation version, it was some 5 years back. Maybe they've changed their policies since then? At 04:45 PM 9/08/2010, you wrote: Now I think that's worse than jfw. Jfw has a 40 minute limit and the demo is free, although it is restricted... but having

Re: [Audyssey] BrailleSoft No Longer Supports Freedom Scientific

2010-08-09 Thread Stephen
probably because of the deadly word bug, in which certain combos of letters and numbers can crash eloquence, I think they've been dealt with now. At 04:59 PM 9/08/2010, you wrote: Hm. I'm curious... why are there so many people who don't like eloquence? --- Gamers mailing list __

Re: [Audyssey] BrailleSoft No Longer Supports Freedom Scientific

2010-08-09 Thread Bryan Peterson
Not only that but the speech quality is horrible as far as I'm concerned. And from what I've heard the word bug hasn't been figured out yet even now, not that I've had problems with that. We are the Knights who say...Ni! - Original Message - From: Stephen whocr...@internode.on.net To:

Re: [Audyssey] mainstream gaming

2010-08-09 Thread Ben
I want it just because that will be the only mk game I can get on pc... and it should be in stereo... shouldn't it? -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of clement chou Sent: 09 August 2010 09:08 To: Gamers Discussion list

Re: [Audyssey] mainstream gaming

2010-08-09 Thread weisi4u
Hi, The mortal kombat project 4.7 in M.U.G.E.N can be made stereo easily. Pritty decent stereo too. Kevin - Original Message - From: Ben gamehead...@aol.co.uk To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Date: Mon, 9 Aug 2010 11:40:58 +0100 Subject: Re: [Audyssey] mainstream

Re: [Audyssey] BrailleSoft No Longer Supports Freedom Scientific

2010-08-09 Thread Stephen
Are you sure it's eloquence you're thinking of? I happen to prefer the voice over other synthesisers, I think it's very clear. At 07:34 PM 9/08/2010, you wrote: Not only that but the speech quality is horrible as far as I'm concerned. And from what I've heard the word bug hasn't been figured

Re: [Audyssey] BrailleSoft No Longer Supports Freedom Scientific

2010-08-09 Thread Bryan Peterson
Yes, I mean Eloquence. It's like I said before, I wouldn't use it at all but for the fact that it has the fastest response rate of any synthe I've used and couldn't stand it when I encountered it as the speaking voice in some audio games. If it weren't for the fast response rate I wouldn't

Re: [Audyssey] mainstream gaming

2010-08-09 Thread Ryan Strunk
I can understand why. That game sucked. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of clement chou Sent: Monday, August 09, 2010 3:08 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] mainstream gaming Could, but probably don't

Re: [Audyssey] BrailleSoft No Longer Supports Freedom Scientific

2010-08-09 Thread Mauricio Almeida
kevin, I totally agree. I switched to NVDA, period. I want to try wineyes too, though. mauricio -Mensagem original- De: weis...@googlemail.com Para: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Data: Segunda, 09 de Agosto de 2010 01:51 Assunto: Re: [Audyssey] BrailleSoft No Longer Supports

[Audyssey] off topic posts over the weekend

2010-08-09 Thread Raul A. Gallegos
Hello all, just sending out a reminder that off topic posts are to be controlled. While the discussion of lawsuits, speech synthesizers, and whether or not to use one screen reader over another are highly informative and entertaining, they don't contribute to gaming discussions. Many thanks. --

[Audyssey] A New File

2010-08-09 Thread Jim Kitchen
Hi, I have put a new file up on my web site. File name wingcfs8.exe File size 70k bytes 6 new golf courses call area codes rating 79, man versus nature rating 98, randomless rating 90, rock stars paradise continued, rock stars paradise, short and long of it rating 76. Hope you enjoy, and

[Audyssey] 7-128 Software uses SAPI Voices in their games

2010-08-09 Thread Eleanor
Brandon wrote: what kind of voice was kevin and was that sapi at all? Kevin was a free TTS voice. We used it because when we started to develop our games, we couldn't afford to buy the rights to use a better voice. Also we were learning the technology that goes with self-voicing. When we

Re: [Audyssey] BrailleSoft No Longer Supports Freedom Scientific

2010-08-09 Thread Mauricio Almeida
same thing for me. The other voices including sap take long to reply to my commands. give me one that does not and I will switch. -Mensagem original- De: Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net Para: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Data: Domingo, 8 de Agosto de 2010 22:41

Re: [Audyssey] mainstream gaming

2010-08-09 Thread Ben
Don't know how or where to get that -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of weis...@googlemail.com Sent: 09 August 2010 12:11 To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] mainstream gaming Hi, The mortal kombat

Re: [Audyssey] BrailleSoft No Longer Supports Freedom Scientific

2010-08-09 Thread Kelly Sapergia
Hi, I haven't read all the messages in this thread yet, but I agree with what's been said about people not liking FS because of their lawsuits. I've thought about switching to a different screen reader myself, even though I like using JFW, but I'm staying with it for now because of one

[Audyssey] : Re: BrailleSoft No Longer Supports Freedom Scientific

2010-08-09 Thread Josh Kennedy
Hi Also guys don't forget if you cannot afford windows that vinux 3.0 is a great option. And you can get voxin for it for $5 and put vmware on it and run windows in a virtual machine with NVDA. I use vinux in a vm have been playing with it for awhile now and find it very easy to use. If I have

Re: [Audyssey] BrailleSoft No Longer Supports Freedom Scientific

2010-08-09 Thread Josh Kennedy
Hi Humanware's a bit rediculous also especially with the issue I'm trying to get them to agree with me on. You see I'm running a windows98 virtual machine in vmware. I like really like the keynote gold speech synthesizer. They had a version called keynote gold multimedia for win98 and keysoft

Re: [Audyssey] BrailleSoft No Longer Supports Freedom Scientific

2010-08-09 Thread Josh Kennedy
Hi you think 40 minutes is bad? Every 15 minutes I have to reboot my win98 virtual machine to use keynote gold multimedia and keysoft 2.4a demo for 15 minutes at a time. Humanware, just give me the full version of the software won't you darn it!!! Josh Kennedy jkenn...@gmail.com --- Gamers

Re: [Audyssey] BrailleSoft No Longer Supports Freedom Scientific

2010-08-09 Thread Josh Kennedy
hi yes guys you can certainly use NVDA and also use vinux3.0. They work very good. Josh Kennedy jkenn...@gmail.com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via

Re: [Audyssey] BrailleSoft No Longer Supports Freedom Scientific

2010-08-09 Thread Josh Kennedy
hey guys Can you guys maybe help me by emailing us.i...@humanware.com and just write a short message about how you really want keynote gold multimedia and keysoft 2.4a demos released as freeware? they work great in my win98 virtual machine. I use win98 vm because win95 vm does not let me share

Re: [Audyssey] BrailleSoft No Longer Supports Freedom Scientific

2010-08-09 Thread Josh Kennedy
Hi I would never buy a braillenote. I am very very happy with my braillePlus which runs special talking linux and my american printing house for the blind refreshabraille braille display that I can put in a pocket. They work great! oh and not mention my macbook pro with mac os win7 win xp

Re: [Audyssey] BrailleSoft No Longer Supports Freedom Scientific

2010-08-09 Thread Josh Kennedy
hey guys the nice thing about the american printing house for the blind's braille plus notetaker is that it is the most affordable, it runs linux, it also has speakup installed on it and you can access the linux console on the notetaker and run whatever linux console apps you wish to run. And

Re: [Audyssey] BrailleSoft No Longer Supports Freedom Scientific

2010-08-09 Thread Josh Kennedy
hey if I could get keynote gold multimedia somehow to work with NVDA and vinux3.0 I would. I actually like that a bit better than eloquence. I really like eloquence but keynote gold speech is my alltime favorite. Josh Kennedy jkenn...@gmail.com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org

Re: [Audyssey] BrailleSoft No Longer Supports Freedom Scientific

2010-08-09 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi all, As Raul said earlier on list let's begin getting back on topic with gaming. I know many of us, including myself would like to express our opinions about Freedom Scientific's practices but it is time to drop it and get back to what this list was intended for. Which is talking about

Re: [Audyssey] BrailleSoft No Longer Supports Freedom Scientific

2010-08-09 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Kevin,, Like I said that is just a theory. I don't know why Jaws locks up with games for certain other than it is trying to have eexclusive control of the keyboard were Window-Eyes, NVDA, Hal, etc doesn't do that. Window-Eyes and NVDA both have scripting too so I don't see why Jaws would have

Re: [Audyssey] mainstream gaming

2010-08-09 Thread Liam Erven
I must be the one person who really enjoyed 4. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Ryan Strunk Sent: Monday, August 09, 2010 6:49 AM To: 'Gamers Discussion list' Subject: Re: [Audyssey] mainstream gaming I can

Re: [Audyssey] BrailleSoft No Longer Supports Freedom Scientific (

2010-08-09 Thread Josh Kennedy
hey guys sorry I'm responding late. I just now saw the email to stop this thread. I'm three or so days behind on my email. Josh Kennedy jkenn...@gmail.com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make

Re: [Audyssey] BrailleSoft No Longer Supports Freedom Scientific

2010-08-09 Thread clement chou
I knew about those.. but I always thought there were other reasons. lol. Maybe it really is that simple. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web,

Re: [Audyssey] mainstream gaming

2010-08-09 Thread clement chou
Uh... no, actually. I don't even think the music is in stereo from what I remember... but I would rather play Street Fighter IV on my computer. lol. A lot more entertaining, plus I can play online. - Original Message - From: Ben gamehead...@aol.co.uk To: 'Gamers Discussion list'

Re: [Audyssey] mainstream gaming

2010-08-09 Thread clement chou
yeah I can list a lot of reasons, but won't unless people ask. Just... no. lol. - Original Message - From: Ryan Strunk ryan.str...@gmail.com To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, August 09, 2010 3:49 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] mainstream gaming I can

Re: [Audyssey] BrailleSoft No Longer Supports Freedom Scientific

2010-08-09 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Hayden, That's what I thought. Unfortunately, for Jaws users that is a very bad practice as Jaws yanks control of the keyboard away from the Win API and substitutes itself as the input manager. That's bad because I've seen cases where Jaws has crashed, locked up, etc and when it does so the

Re: [Audyssey] mainstream gaming

2010-08-09 Thread clement chou
Yeah... probably. Sorry buddy. I don't mean to bash it, because I was and stil a fan of the older mk games, but 4 and above, n terms of sheer gameplay... weren't so great. Character balance was also taken down a few noches. MK 2 is the one game I would play, maybe 3. - Original Message

Re: [Audyssey] BrailleSoft No Longer Supports Freedom Scientific

2010-08-09 Thread clement chou
Yeah.. that keyboard locking thing is something I've had experience with multiple times. Unfortunately, it's hard to even close JFW... because if you bot up another screenreader like window-eyes, the keyboard remains locked, and it's dificult to reach the task manager to close Jaws. As for

Re: [Audyssey] mainstream gaming

2010-08-09 Thread Ben
I need help with street fighter the f a qs don't help, and I can't beat azazel on t6... -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of clement chou Sent: 09 August 2010 18:49 To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey]

Re: [Audyssey] mainstream gaming

2010-08-09 Thread clement chou
Let's see what you need help with... as for beating t6, change up your strategy and see what works for you. But let me know what you need for SF. - Original Message - From: Ben gamehead...@aol.co.uk To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, August 09, 2010 9:49 AM

[Audyssey] games we'd like to play: Law suit

2010-08-09 Thread peter Mahach
..On the edge of creminalizm, ..on the edge of high priced screen readers, ..on the edge of fat people who never want to eat stuff other than fast food. ..on the edge of nothing, you! the random person who picked up the most incredible thing from the cops. The law suit! Your job, drive your

Re: [Audyssey] mainstream gaming

2010-08-09 Thread Orin
Hmm. Sucks on the PC. No trophies or anything. Orin orin8...@gmail.com Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/orinks Skype: orin1112 On Aug 9, 2010, at 1:48 PM, clement chou wrote: Uh... no, actually. I don't even think the music is in stereo from what I remember... but I would rather play

Re: [Audyssey] games we'd like to play: Law suit

2010-08-09 Thread clement chou
Hey I'm in! Can I beta test for free? Or is there a half-price fee for beta testing too? - Original Message - From: peter Mahach piterm...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, August 09, 2010 10:00 AM Subject: [Audyssey] games we'd like to play: Law

Re: [Audyssey] mainstream gaming

2010-08-09 Thread clement chou
But the gameplay is where t counts, and the gameplay is exactly the same. Trofies I already have. - Original Message - From: Orin orin8...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, August 09, 2010 11:13 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] mainstream gaming Hmm.

Re: [Audyssey] games we'd like to play: Law suit

2010-08-09 Thread peter Mahach
Hi, If you want to beta test ls, you need to pay a small entry fee of just $1100.99, as well as not be playing any other auditory or otherwise, game. Lol, seriusly though, if you want to betatest for fs you can't tell anyone anything, as well as not be using any other sr or magnifier than jaws

Re: [Audyssey] games we'd like to play: Law suit

2010-08-09 Thread clement chou
Lol! I think I'l pass.. I'l spend half the money on Window-eyes and buy myself a new guitar, thanks. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at

Re: [Audyssey] games we'd like to play: Law suit

2010-08-09 Thread Lori Duncan
What!? I'd never pay out that much even supposing I had it! Smile - Original Message - From: peter Mahach piterm...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, August 09, 2010 10:13 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] games we'd like to play: Law suit Hi, If you

[Audyssey] Super Street Fighter IV trials: Ryu

2010-08-09 Thread Yohandy
if you guys like it feel free to request other chars. the way I did this was I completed Ryu's trials and recorded them each to a separate file. this way if you guys are doing it yourselves you can just load up the trial number you're stuck in and take it from there. If anyone likes this little

Re: [Audyssey] Super Street Fighter IV trials: Ryu

2010-08-09 Thread clement chou
Hmm. Might be better to have each character's trial set in one file. That'd be hundreds and hundreds of files if you do t the way you're doing. And to anyone else needing help, I'm free to help as well. - Original Message - From: Yohandy yohand...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list

Re: [Audyssey] Super Street Fighter IV trials: Ryu

2010-08-09 Thread Yohandy
yup I know. however I zipped up the folder and put it up on sendspace. the idea is that people can just do the ones they're stuck in. if I put them all in a single file, it'll be kinda hard to find any specific trial. - Original Message - From: clement chou chou.clem...@gmail.com To:

Re: [Audyssey] Super Street Fighter IV trials: Ryu

2010-08-09 Thread clement chou
I don't think so. But whatever works best for you. lol. I have all of gouken's, in case anyone's interested. - Original Message - From: Yohandy yohand...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, August 09, 2010 1:57 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Super Street

Re: [Audyssey] Super Street Fighter IV trials: Ryu

2010-08-09 Thread Yohandy
How many characters trials have you completed so far? tried C. Viper yet? those are such fun! *extreme sarcasm*. there are specific techniques that will work better on some of these trials, for instance Ryu's 24th one which I recorded. I could never do that one the official way, so had to come

Re: [Audyssey] Super Street Fighter IV trials: Ryu

2010-08-09 Thread clement chou
How many ways are there to do trials... gie the example of ryu's 24. I did it, but it was the official way as far as I'm concerned. I think anyway. I haven't tried C. Viper... but I intend to try juri then throw her out when I play you next. - Original Message - From: Yohandy

Re: [Audyssey] Super Street Fighter IV trials: Ryu

2010-08-09 Thread Yohandy
oh man! Juri got some awesome trials. that's all I'm saying. as for different ways to do trials, there really isn't. all we can do is add extra hits to hopefully make a trial easier. but we can't just go ahead and remove things. the game doesn't really care what else you add to a trial as long

Re: [Audyssey] BrailleSoft No Longer Supports Freedom Scientific

2010-08-09 Thread shaun everiss
well an interesting thing happened a bit ago. I wanted to use keysoft 2.0 and mastertouch 2 on another system and I asked about the licencing on these softwares. Technically these are free. Right, but you need to get a coppy and get passed the protection and they don't supply that. the keynote

Re: [Audyssey] BrailleSoft No Longer Supports Freedom Scientific

2010-08-09 Thread shaun everiss
I would like to point out that most readers, hal and now jaws and probably win eyes has 40 minutes hal has 35 so I think its standard times. gw is one of the only companies I know of a leace to own system though so you pay a bit every month and get a code and well every month you pay and

Re: [Audyssey] BrailleSoft No Longer Supports Freedom Scientific

2010-08-09 Thread shaun everiss
yeah the braillenote is a bit much hmm linux? wander if you can run gnome on there to and upgrade the system? I never thought of a linux blindness device. At 03:39 a.m. 10/08/2010, you wrote: hey guys the nice thing about the american printing house for the blind's braille plus notetaker is

Re: [Audyssey] BrailleSoft No Longer Supports Freedom Scientific (

2010-08-09 Thread shaun everiss
I have also just seen the email but I am gona answer all questions left on this topic on my mail box, oh if anyone wants to continue this descussion add me to msn at shau...@xtra.co.nz, email me at sm.ever...@gmail.com and I can give skype info to though I don't use that that much. At 04:26

Re: [Audyssey] games we'd like to play: Law suit

2010-08-09 Thread shaun everiss
well I must say I tried to beta test hal once but they were full still hope to do that, not keen on fs though. not to test. At 09:13 a.m. 10/08/2010, you wrote: Hi, If you want to beta test ls, you need to pay a small entry fee of just $1100.99, as well as not be playing any other auditory or

Re: [Audyssey] Super Street Fighter IV trials: Ryu

2010-08-09 Thread clement chou
Juri's just a good character n general. I fund some neat tricks... you're going to hate her. I never add hits. I do everything the way it's suposed to be done. lol. - Original Message - From: Yohandy yohand...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday,

Re: [Audyssey] games we'd like to play: Law suit

2010-08-09 Thread Charles Rivard
Aren't politicians any of the targets?? If not, I won't be filing my law suit. By the way, do lawyers wear law suits? --- Shepherds are the best beasts! - Original Message - From: peter Mahach piterm...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, August

Re: [Audyssey] BrailleSoft No Longer Supports Freedom Scientific

2010-08-09 Thread Stephen
Hal actually has 30 days. At 09:23 AM 10/08/2010, you wrote: I would like to point out that most readers, hal and now jaws and probably win eyes has 40 minutes hal has 35 so I think its standard times. gw is one of the only companies I know of a leace to own system though so you pay a bit every

[Audyssey] LWorks updates

2010-08-09 Thread Liam Erven
Hi Guys. There's been a lot going on. Much of it is not good. The host I used to use (bluehost) decided to pull the plug on some of it's customers that were getting hit by malware attacks instead of fixing the problem. So long story short, LWorks has been homeless. I've been working on

Re: [Audyssey] LWorks updates

2010-08-09 Thread lirin
W dniu 2010-08-10 03:26, Liam Erven pisze: Hi Guys. There's been a lot going on. Much of it is not good. The host I used to use (bluehost) decided to pull the plug on some of it's customers that were getting hit by malware attacks instead of fixing the problem. So long story short, LWorks