thats true.
Saying that headphones are good.
Though I must say our games are at least good in the fact they have
stratogy in them.
I know friends that just cheat to finnish the game without solving it.
ANd I know more that can be a terrorist and kill loads of people just
point and shoot and
well I just listened to your file nickle.
Firstly, forcing views on others is not good.
I my self am christian.
Violence?
Ok I aggree some of the sighted games are violent our stuff has
stratogy, I'd never play violent games with no plot or anything.
There are loads of non violent games.
jims
well libia is case in point.
if you have to use force to make sure people like you then you have a
problem right there.
At 05:27 a.m. 1/03/2011, you wrote:
Hi Darren,
I wouldn't go as far as to say it is weak. Some people don't know
what it is to have a mind of their own. Some countries,
I also believe in this myself.
If you have a purpose and its just then fine if not then you are no
better than the rubbish that exists on the ground.
At 05:35 a.m. 1/03/2011, you wrote:
Hi Charles,
Well said.
I believe that violence is essential for survival. In all other
aspects such as
I aggree with this.
If you want to change the industry to what you want, give us a taste
of your game.
If you are forcing religion then no one will play it though.
but if you are fair and give us a chance then maybe who knows.
At 05:40 a.m. 1/03/2011, you wrote:
Hi there, I'm sorry but I don't
well I had an uncle or rather still have one that is religious.
I let him say his peace.
Aggreeing with him on some points and debating others.
Because of this we have respect of a sort and religion is hardly brought up.
I guess I could live with that.
Leaving alone what is not needed unless need
I aggree with you.
I would sertainly not care for violence without any meaning.
It makes me sick people that are sighted can play games with violence
for violence or for a poor shabby plot.
A good story with suspence especially in the scifi era with action
etc is what I want.
At 07:06 a.m.
I did not say that I know of a game that glorifies violence, Only that I
would have a problem playing a game that did.
Thanks.
Darren.
-Original Message-
From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On
Behalf Of Hayden Presley
Sent: Monday, February 28, 2011
On Tue, Mar 01, 2011 at 06:42:21AM -0500, Darren Duff wrote:
I did not say that I know of a game that glorifies violence, Only that I
would have a problem playing a game that did.
[My Reply:]
What's wrong with violence. Kill! Kill! Kill! Should smack
some of these gang-banger kids
And its rude to call developers heartless, unloving for kind and loving
violence. That's just a form of insulting people and being a bit prejudice.
- Original Message -
From: Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net
To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Tuesday, March
hmmm good recording, I may include this in a podcast i run if this is
alright with you.
At 12:45 a.m. 1/03/2011, you wrote:
Hi list
I've done a recording where I talk about how I feel about the future of
games for the vi.
This recording is very straightforward.
There's no strong language, but I
Hi list
I've done a recording where I talk about how I feel about the future of
games for the vi.
This recording is very straightforward.
There's no strong language, but I use the bible often in this recording.
I'd like to hear what you think.
Here is the link
http://www.sendspace.com/file/wdww6p
Hi Nicol.
What you're basically saying here, to me, is that people should only
consider Jehova witnesses when making games. You and only you.
Calling others without love for goodness because they create games
with violence and supernatural aspects to them is very, very
judgmental. Just
Wow dude. Really well written and echos what I would say, but way more
eloquently.
-Original Message-
From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On
Behalf Of Clement Chou
Sent: Monday, February 28, 2011 6:43 AM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re:
Well games are for entertainment only. If someone takes it for more
than that, Please seek help for your head.
I do be leave in God, but do not and never will be leave in
programmed religion!
And you really don't want me going past that thought.
The games are there to play and no one will twist
I try. lol. Did you like my question at the end?
At 04:47 AM 28/02/2011, you wrote:
Wow dude. Really well written and echos what I would say, but way more
eloquently.
-Original Message-
From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On
Behalf Of Clement Chou
Clement, it was never my intention to put down any dev.
And it was never my intention to say that developers should only make games
for Jehovah's witnesses.
I am just unhappy because pipe2 has shooting when there are so many other
shooting games.
And what I said throughout the recording, is not
Clement, about the martial arts.
Well, its quite simple.
We are taught at our meetings that martial arts is wrong in God's eyes.
Its as simple as that.
I am not part of the people who prepares the meetings, so I cannot tell you
why we are taught martial arts is wrong.
In our meetings there is no
That doesn't excuse you calling other developers loveless because
they make violent games. And the shooting in pipe 2 is vastly
different from shooting in other games. And I hate to be harsh... but
there are some things that are taught that just seem so obvious
shoudln't be believed... but to
So... half the dojo I practice in is obviously evil or
violence-loving... because at least half of us are Christians. That's
the problem with religion as a whole... it's too black and white.
Aikido, for example, is another martial art... yet is not aggressive
or violent. It focusses just as
There's no point in being taught something if you aren't prepared to ask
questions about it. I know of pastors who would say that you shouldn't just
follow blindly because if god gave us brains then he obviously intended for
us to use them.
To say that x is wrong and I'm saying this because
Clement, I have to agree. Yes, I do play many violent games, but for Three
reasons. 1. Because they have a bit of violence, but not to turn me out. 2.
Because I enjoy them. 3. I'm not like those guys who think if they play
violent games they could shoot and kill who they please.
And Clement.
It is not wrong, sie. Sometimes there are times when there is not a point to
pay attention to some people.
HTH.
- Original Message -
From: NIcol nicoljaco...@telkomsa.net
To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Monday, February 28, 2011 3:44 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] a
People may try to teach you something, but why do you believe their
attempted teachings? If I have been playing games in which death occurs for
a number of years with no ill effects on my character, and people preach to
me that this is wrong because of what it will do to me, should I suddenly
Nicol,
There are two things I want to emphasise myself on this subject, and I want
you to be crystal clear on them..
Number one.
You believe what you want to believe. Don't let anybody brain wash you into
thinking that what I say goes and is the way forward in life. If you are
taught to
Hi Darren,
I wouldn't go as far as to say it is weak. Some people don't know what it is
to have a mind of their own. Some countries, families and authoritarians are
just so keen to make sure that the people under them are so scared of
thinking of things in their own free will and using their
If God hates violence, I wonder what he thought of David's battle with
Goliath? How about the drowning of the Egyptians in the Red Sea? The flood
that Noah and his family survived? The destruction of Sodom and Gomorra?
Let's go into our daily lives. Ever killed a fly, cockroach or
Hi Charles,
Well said.
I believe that violence is essential for survival. In all other aspects such
as greed, vengeance, anger, hatred, jealousy, I believe it is wrong. Who
knows? Maybe if everybody believed that there would be no wars or murders in
the world. But of course that will never
Hi there, I'm sorry but I don't remember your name.
but I did listen to your voice recording and here are my thoughts.
What you can do is instead of burning your bridges what you can or
could have done is talk with developers and make a game of your own. If
you don't like a game, just don't
Hi all,
First things first. Please let noone be offended, I am talking here about
some true things that occured to me, and some others still in the topic of
gaming and religion.
Several religious organizations tried to get me in a fiew ways, some of
those similar to Nikol's ways,
Exactly. And that's why we have brains in our sole.
- Original Message -
From: Charles Rivard woofer...@sbcglobal.net
To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Monday, February 28, 2011 4:09 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] a strong message about the future of games for the
vi
On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 01:45:35PM +0200, NIcol wrote:
I've done a recording where I talk about how I feel about the future of
games for the vi.
[My Reply:]
Hi NIcol,
No offense, but I'mm still sitting here, waiting for the
download to complete, because I don't want the
On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 04:43:23AM -0800, Clement Chou wrote:
What you're basically saying here, to me, is that people should only
consider Jehova witnesses when making games. You and only you.
[My Reply:]
Hi Clement,
No worries. The righteous don't need to be saved, and Jesus
On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 04:00:39PM -, darren harris wrote:
I know of pastors who would say that you shouldn't just follow blindly
because if god gave us brains then he obviously intended for us to use
them.
[My Reply:]
Hi Darren,
I think it goes:
O taste and see
brains in our sole? I'm not sure about that lol! But I will put in my 2
cense here... I have no problems with a game having violence just as long as
it's there as part of the plot. IF it's there just to glorify violence then
I would have a problem. And just for the record I know of no game for the
On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 05:44:28PM +0200, NIcol wrote:
We are taught at our meetings that martial arts is wrong in God's eyes.
[My Reply:]
Hi Nicol,
Then why did God warn the Israelites that if they didn't kill
every Philistine, man, woman, child,, and livestock, that they'd
On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 07:56:13AM -0800, Clement Chou wrote:
and again, I bring you back from the crusades. If god hated violence,
and all us Christians were taught to go against that, crusades would
never have happened.
[My Reply:]
Hi Clement,
Well, as you can plainly see
Yes, please do it on dropbox.
- Original Message -
From: Frost znvyyv...@gmail.com
To: gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Monday, February 28, 2011 5:38 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] a strong message about the future of games for the
vi
On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 01:45:35PM +0200, NIcol wrote:
In the recording, which I am now listening to, it is stated that there are
no games for the blind that don't contain violence or the super natural?
Ever tried any of the racing or puzzle or trivia games? How about the
sports games?
It is said that God hates violence, yet have you never
I am not asking for that, Charles. I know if I think if I just think about
the issue in that manner, I would live in my own world which wouldn't be
fun. I was just curious to listen. and the reason is because of what I heard
and because of the sendspace payment thing. - Original Message
Here's a dropbox link to a slightly smaller file - I dropped it down to
56kbps to halve the file size, but don't think really changed quality as
such.
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/13327195/vi%20gaming.mp3
Will just also say that I am not religious at all, and don't necessarily
agree with anyone
Hi Jacob,
Thank you. I can't thank you enough. Going to listen to it now.
- Original Message -
From: Jacob Kruger jac...@mailzone.co.za
To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Monday, February 28, 2011 7:57 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] a strong message about the future of
Hi Nicol,
Nicol wrote:
Martial arts is violence and we are taught, everything connected to
violence is wrong because god hates violence; as simple as that.
My reply:
Nicol, you are welcome to believe whatever you want, but I can assure
you what you have been taught is false. Not only is it
Ok I have to agree with what is said here. for example the Sarah game
is just a game all the stuff is fiction especially Harry Potter they use
mechanical machines to produce the sound affects and pictures what
occurs in those movies. So I don't see any harm on what games are
created on this
Oh ok well you need to say when you are recording or posting messages
that is what I have been taught or that's what I heard in my opinion so
other people don't think that's not where you stand on that issue just
trying to help.
On 2/28/2011 10:41 AM, NIcol wrote:
Clement, it was never my
It's precisely because of matters like this that I don't like organized
religion. Games are just one example as far as I'm concerned.
We are the Knights who say...Ni!
- Original Message -
From: jason kb3...@verizon.net
To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Monday,
Hi,
I am curious: which game do you know of that glorifies violence?
Best Regards,
Hayden
-Original Message-
From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On
Behalf Of Darren Duff
Sent: Monday, February 28, 2011 12:07 PM
To: 'Gamers Discussion list'
Subject: Re:
Apparently any game with violence in it period. I do my best to respect
people with differing religious views than I have, but there comes a point
when I have to say get over it. One issue in particular is profanity. People
swear. If you don't like it you don't have to use the language
Hi Nicol,
I just downloaded and finished listening to your message. Here are my
thoughts and comments in a sort of question and answer format.
Q: Tom, why must you use mythology in Mysteries of the Ancients?
A: Well, Nicol, there are a number of reasons why I use mythology in
my games like
On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 09:57:24PM +0200, Jacob Kruger wrote:
Here's a dropbox link to a slightly smaller file - I dropped it down
[My Reply:]
Thanks for the link! Hey! Popeye the Sailor isn't violent?!?!?
He kicked Bluto's butt in nearly episode of the cartoon!
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