[Audyssey] mota

2009-04-18 Thread nicol
Hi tom and all I'm desperately needing advice. my mom got a fit when she saw me reading an e-mail with regards to mota. I assured her that I will not play games on her computer which is against her principles. you see I belong to the religion: jehovah's witnesses. they believe that playing

Re: [Audyssey] mota

2009-04-18 Thread Steve
That is the problem with religion, people think they know what is good for everybody else, my opinion on this is if a person does not like something that I am doing then they need to get a life of there own and let me do what I have the right to do as an adult. Steve - Original Message

Re: [Audyssey] Mysteries Of The Ancients beta 4

2009-04-18 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Sky, Yes, it should be. Level 1 in the beta will be level 1 in the full release. Smile. Sky Taylor wrote: Hello List, Sky here. It's been a really really long time since I have poasted to this list. I just downloaded Beta4 of Mysteries Of The Ancients, and I am having a really lovely time

Re: [Audyssey] ZORK

2009-04-18 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Tony, Did you type save? That works for most interactive fiction games. HTH Anthony Vitale wrote: I played Zork's cavern of doom, one problem when I wanted to quit I couldn't figure out how to save so I could resume later. So How do I do that next time? Tony --- Gamers mailing list __

Re: [Audyssey] mota

2009-04-18 Thread Sky Taylor
Hello, Nicol. That is not very great. It's only a game, so you shouldn't have to be punished just for playing games like this. My parents let me play whatever games I want as long as it doesn't have swearing in it. - Original Message - From: nicol 0722001...@vodamail.co.za To:

Re: [Audyssey] mota

2009-04-18 Thread Bryan Peterson
I agree. I happen to be against organized religion for that very reason. Don't mistake me. I do try to respect the religious beliefs of others but I have no respect at all for anyone who tries to force their beliefs on other people, especially over something as harmless as playing a computer

Re: [Audyssey] ZORK

2009-04-18 Thread Anthony Vitale
Hi Thomas, Well You know off line text games I knew to do that but being on line I Just didn't think of it. If you do that where and how do you retrieve your save to resume your game? Thanks Tony At 09:47 AM 4/18/2009, you wrote: Hi Tony, Did you type save? That works for most interactive

Re: [Audyssey] mota

2009-04-18 Thread Bryan Peterson
The issue here seems to be that the game makes mention of Greek mythology and therefore idiology. Apparently his mom feels that by playing that game he'll be led down the wrong path. It's because of things like that that I happen to be against organized religion on general principle, but that's

Re: [Audyssey] mota

2009-04-18 Thread ari
run, Tom, run! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and

Re: [Audyssey] mota

2009-04-18 Thread Charles Rivard
You would have to get info on how Jehovah's Witnesses feel about stuff like this from Jehovah's Witnesses. --- Gun control only controls the guns of lawful citizens while placing them in control of the unlawful ones. - Original Message - From: nicol 0722001...@vodamail.co.za To:

[Audyssey] games and religion

2009-04-18 Thread Charles Rivard
It's not organized religion that I'm against. It's the behavior and opinions of some of the people. --- Gun control only controls the guns of lawful citizens while placing them in control of the unlawful ones. - Original Message - From: Bryan Peterson b-peter...@hotmail.com To:

Re: [Audyssey] games and religion

2009-04-18 Thread william lomas
well nicole chose to be part of jehovas witness so it is his problem we can choose waht we believe in life don't blame other people blames oneself for decisions you make. People never stand up for their own opinion, religion particularly jehovas witness is ramming it down peoples throats

Re: [Audyssey] games and religion

2009-04-18 Thread kelby carlson
I can say, as a Conservative evangelical, that I am absolutely sickened by what Nicol just related. There's idolatry, then there's just fun and stories (which, really, is what a lot of video games are--stories.) I just do not understand the attitude of some religious folks that if you read a

Re: [Audyssey] mota

2009-04-18 Thread shaun everiss
hmm I am my self a christian in a lose sence. I do aggree that violent games do exist. Good you bring up the subject, this issue will not go away, in fact last week I watched a program on this people taking games to literally. And actually thinking of these as real. I have no real answer. Yeah

Re: [Audyssey] mota

2009-04-18 Thread shaun everiss
I am of the same don't even go to church I have an uncle that is like that. I just don't let that get to me if I did i would be in hell. They do stop after a bit and after they think you are in with them then well as long as you watch yourself they don't seem to notice or mind what happens. I do

Re: [Audyssey] games and religion

2009-04-18 Thread Che
quote: well nicole chose to be part of jehovas witness so it is his problem end quote. Actually, this kind of gets to the heart of the problem I think. Few people choose their religion. Most are brought up in it with no option to opt out. People that are indoctrenated into a lifestyle from

Re: [Audyssey] mota

2009-04-18 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Nicol, Well,talking about someone's religious views, opinions, and beliefs is a sensitive issue for this list. We have specific guidelines in place to prevent listers, including the moderators, from flaming anyone based on his or her race, religion, or gender. So I'll try and tread

Re: [Audyssey] games and religion

2009-04-18 Thread Allan Thompson
Hi, I agree with you for the most part. I am also a christian, and I have played Dungeons and Dragons for a large part of my christian life especially after I became blind. Games in and of themselves are not the problem, it is the persons focus on those games that cause the trouble. This isnt

Re: [Audyssey] games and religion

2009-04-18 Thread Kevin Weispfennig
And then the people that write those tgames, what would happen to them? I play those games, cause they are fun, and do chalange me in most of the ways, I love Entombed, its a really cool game. And I Love the music, but thats not the point. - Original Message - From: kelby carlson

Re: [Audyssey] games and religion

2009-04-18 Thread Charles Rivard
I'll see you when we're both there, then. It's not what you read or play, but what you do with it that counts. How many people read horoscopes in newspapers that don't believe them? There are plenty. How many people read the Harry Potter series and play games based on it that actually

Re: [Audyssey] mota

2009-04-18 Thread Phil Vlasak
Hi Nicol, As the objective in Tomb Hunter is to rid the tomb of evil creatures, it is a Christian game with a good moral design. Phil --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update

Re: [Audyssey] games and religion

2009-04-18 Thread Wil James
Here's an interesting question. If weather forecasters can tell the future, where do they go? Heaven? Hell? Christian stations have weather forecasts on them, so does this make them a bit on the hypocritical side? There is such a thing as Real Rock. Come check it out!

Re: [Audyssey] games and religion

2009-04-18 Thread ari
Good one Wil! But, I hate to really throw a spanner in the works here, but what I find interesting is, and I'll tell you guys why I think it's rubbish, but as a liberal Christian myself I find it weird how some Christian pastors who claim that somehow playing some games actually loosens evil

Re: [Audyssey] games and religion

2009-04-18 Thread Charles Rivard
I used to point out to those who said that if you play music backwards, you hear the Satanic messages, that I don't play the music backwards, so I don't hear those messages. So much for their argument against the music. Also, if you don't allow evil to influence you, doesn't this mean that

[Audyssey] CHOICE!!

2009-04-18 Thread Anthony Vitale
When religion is used to take away a persons right to choose it is questionable. God gives us the ability to choose some choose to be sinful and others choose to bee good but the choice is theirs. Playing a game as long as it is recognized for what it is really not evil in itself. I

Re: [Audyssey] games and religion

2009-04-18 Thread Bryan Peterson
Not only that but there are honest-to-goodness christian themed video and computer games, so to say that all games are sinful, and I've known people who did, is definitely on the hypocritical side. There was that old NES game Bible Adventures for one thing. I want you...to go upstairs...and

[Audyssey] deal or no deal

2009-04-18 Thread dennis
is the accessable version of deal or no deal out yet? i think someone was workin on it. thanks Dennis __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4019 (20090418) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com

Re: [Audyssey] games and religion

2009-04-18 Thread Bryan Peterson
And yet they idolize C.S. Louis when, by their own logic, he should be sin. So I totally agree. And then they make their own video and computer games which involve their share of combat to slay the demons and eil spirits, the very things they seem to vilify. I remember hearing of a computer or

Re: [Audyssey] games and religion

2009-04-18 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Charles, Exactly my thoughts. It is not so much organized religion or Christianity itself that is the problem. Often it is how people recieve it, what they take from the message, that becomes the real issue. Since we have all different backgrounds, different personalities, we all may get

Re: [Audyssey] deal or no deal

2009-04-18 Thread Charles Rivard
is the accessable version of deal or no deal out yet? i think someone was workin on it. thanks Dennis __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4019 (20090418) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com --- Gamers

Re: [Audyssey] deal or no deal

2009-04-18 Thread Robert Montowski
Hello there, I am the one trying to make a talking Deal or No Deal. The project was put on hold as it is now spring and I have a home that I need to spruce up...new windows/flooring and the like. also will be tilling my garden to get my flowers and veggies in. Most of the work I have done so

Re: [Audyssey] games and religion

2009-04-18 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Kelby, That makes two of us. I am also appalled by what Nicol is going through, and it is hard for me to understand how someone like his mother can be so extremest in her thinking. My in-laws are a lot like that, from the sounds of it, and there problem is everything is either black or

Re: [Audyssey] games and religion

2009-04-18 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Will, Actually, it isn't that simple for most people. It is a proven fact a lot of what makes us who we are our religious beliefs, likes/dislikes, political associations, etc are learned from our parents. As a result we are less likely to be objective about our own opinions, religious

[Audyssey] Finaly some traffic on this list. GRIN.

2009-04-18 Thread The Kolesar Brothers
Now see what we did Chuck. Between Robin's and Lori's questions and all of our great help, we finally broght the list back to life. GRIN. For Lori and Robin. If you need any help. Let Chuck and myself know on or off list. Will help our where possible and if we can't? We know someone who can.

Re: [Audyssey] games and religion

2009-04-18 Thread Willem
You have the wrong idea of what it means to be a christian. It is quite sad how some individuals give things, (like blindness or a specific religion) a bad name by acting odly or saying things like everybody in the group means it. I'm sure you've met that blind person that feels so sorry for

[Audyssey] Hey Chuck,

2009-04-18 Thread The Kolesar Brothers
As Buggs bunny would say aren't we a couple of stinkers? GRIN. We had to bring this dead list back to life with just a little bit of traffic. GRIN. Matt Ron Kolesar there great Dogs! kolesar16...@roadrunner.com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list,

Re: [Audyssey] games and religion

2009-04-18 Thread Willem
Everything depends on your own attetude on things. I read harry poter, play sarah, Shades of doom and Mota, but if you take something too seriously it can really damage you. A game stops being a game when you start seeing it as real. In my opinion that would be your own fault or in some cases

Re: [Audyssey] games and religion

2009-04-18 Thread Willem
it is only a of christians (hopefully) minority that thinks that way and I consider a little crazy, but who am I to judge? - Original Message - From: Bryan Peterson b-peter...@hotmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, April 19, 2009 12:12 AM Subject: Re:

Re: [Audyssey] Hey Chuck,

2009-04-18 Thread Charles Rivard
We soitenly are! --- Gun control only controls the guns of lawful citizens while placing them in control of the unlawful ones. - Original Message - From: The Kolesar Brothers kolesar16...@roadrunner.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2009 4:28

Re: [Audyssey] mota

2009-04-18 Thread Lisa Hayes
Thomas you said all I wanted to say here, but far better thein ever could. Now I have not been concentrating gamers so where can I get mota from/ I want to play the thing and will buy it, so can someone please point me in the direction to download what ever is available? thanks in advance.

Re: [Audyssey] mota

2009-04-18 Thread Bryan Peterson
www.usagamesinteractive.com. Right now it's in Beta stages but with luck it won't be much longer ntilwe see the full version. I know Thomas is more than ready to get the thing out the dor. I want you...to go upstairs...and kill that boy! - Original Message - From: Lisa Hayes

Re: [Audyssey] games and religion

2009-04-18 Thread shaun everiss
hmmm. Thats something I need to do with computers, its not religious but I have a habbit that I spend to much time on the pc when anything breaks like my hard drive or the system goes down I mope around. Slowly starting to get out of it. Another thing is that if something goes down and you work

Re: [Audyssey] Finally some traffic on this list. GRIN.

2009-04-18 Thread shaun everiss
h oh man 19/04/2009, you wrote: Give them bad info just to frustrate them, and watch the fun on the list. (evil grin, just in kidding) --- Gun control only controls the guns of lawful citizens while placing them in control of the unlawful ones. - Original Message - From: The Kolesar