Re: [Audyssey] Interactive fiction
Will again just ask if anyone knows how to get winfrotz TTS working if it renders only startup errors? Aside from it, have tried out varous other interpreters like windows glulx, filfre etc. and while with them I have to use the jaws cursor to read the text, they work, but where winfrotz TTS worked in the past, it won't even try run now, whereas the not too useful standard winfrotz does run. Stay well Jacob Kruger Blind Biker Skype: BlindZA '...fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...' - Original Message - From: dark d...@xgam.org To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2010 10:24 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Interactive fiction Hmmm, can't you just copy the game and save files as normal? I've not tried mobile software, but certainly I've used this to transfer if games betwene a number of computers. Beware the Grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: mike maslo mmaslo1...@swbell.net To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2010 7:38 PM Subject: [Audyssey] Interactive fiction Can someone please explain on how to use the ftp client on the win frotz? I have a game on my laptop and want to transfer it to my iphone but do not have a network. Any help would be sincerely appreciated. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4999 (20100404) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4999 (20100404) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Any interactive fiction fans out there?
well www.ifarchive.org has some stuff. I still have some files up on dropbox but I will shortly be clearing space of them. Where can I get these games at? I would be willing to try all of them. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Muhammed Deniz Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2010 3:11 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Any interactive fiction fans out there? Hi Mike, play dragon dot z5 or gurmay. Their are really cool games like that and you will enjoy them, plus dragon is much cool but you need a brail note in order to play those games. Do you love audio games? Would you like to chat about BGt a game creation tool for the blind? Do you need any tips or tricks on any sought of game? Do you need to ask questions about buying a game and help for the game? Well, this is the right place for you then! If you would like to joyn, just send a blank email to. audiogamesfortheblind+subscr...@googlegroups.com With the subject subscribe in the subject line. Contact infermation. email: muhamme...@googlemail.com msn: muhammed123...@hotmail.co.uk Skype: muhammed.deniz Klango username. muhammed - Original Message - From: mike maslo mmaslo1...@swbell.net To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2010 7:17 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Any interactive fiction fans out there? Dark: Well I am trying to figure out azteca and I got to embarrassing point of the jaguar room but can't figure out how to open the wall by the jaguar. I see it is very similar to muds and sometimes the concepts on how it works. I will ask questions as I run across them but it looks great so far. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of dark Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2010 11:42 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Any interactive fiction fans out there? Hi mike. No problem with traffic about if on this list, --- ask away. If you are a newby though, you could do much worse than checking out http://www.microheaven.com/IFGuide/step2.html which have a great beginners' guide. I'd also recommend you try the game dreamhold by andrew plotkin found at http://ifarchive.heanet.ie/if-archive/games/zcode/dreamhold.z8 you can run this with windows frotz, winfrotz (including the winfrotz tts version which outputs directly to sapi), or anything which plays z code game files. It's a really great story and adventure, but whats' more is it's probably the best introduction to If I've seen. there are various ones knocking about, but for a hands on in game intro going through how to give commands, and what puzles are, dreamhold is deffinately my favourite (not the least because it's an incredibly interesting game and story in it's own right). hth. Beware the Grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: mike maslo mmaslo1...@swbell.net To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2010 4:46 PM Subject: [Audyssey] Any interactive fiction fans out there? Hi List: Are there any interactive fiction fans out there? If so, can you please contact me off list? I would sincerely appreciate a newbie to this area some help and explanations and do not want to fill this list with more traffic. Thanks in advance. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to
Re: [Audyssey] Any interactive fiction fans out there?
well I didn't care for zork myself dungeon and dunjin were my things I played. on that note is there any way to play agt files in windows like you play other files I have tads and frotz working hugo and glulx which I am happy using right now but agt and maybe a windows advint interpreter would make a cool addition for the stuff that uses it. unfortunately there are several dos games I know which I can't play but stil the majority is playable now. To be honest haiden, I never got on well with zork, but then again I personally prefer if games which have more background than just go into the dungeon and grab treasures and more than random puzles. In fact I must admit, some if puzles just irritate me for their total lack of logic. ah, so I was supposed to open the catch on the rusty door by blowing the whistle at the bird to scare it off, getting the egg from the nest, then droping the newspaper and twigs on the floor and using the magnifying glass to focus sunlight, then putting the dustbin lid ontop, dropping in the egg, frying it and using it to greace the rusty latch! how silly of me not to realize that perfectly rational change of logic! I must confess this is why I don't really play much If anymore, sinse it's too much trouble to try and filter the to me, interesting exploration and story based stuff from all the games based on absurd puzles which i then need to look at a walkthrough to guess. Of course, this might just be because I'm probably more inclined toward rpgs and that style of play myself in general, and didn't grown up with the classic if or get into the method of playing it. Beware the grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: Hayden Presley hdpres...@hotmail.com To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, April 05, 2010 1:01 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Any interactive fiction fans out there? Hi Dark, In regards to an earlier post of yours, I know what you mean. I was playing the zcode version of zork, and I had no idea how to enter the mirror to get to the door in the endgame. The walkthrough I had said enter the box. This did work at all. I found out that I had to simply type enter. That was a relief to finally figure out, though exasperating none the saime--I do like the way that one was combined from the three infocom zorks, and it doesn't hurt they added a bit here and there. Best Regards, Hayden --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Any interactive fiction fans out there?
well firstly hit one of the mirrors ifarchive is slow and bad. select plover or mirror.ifarchive.org next go to games there are games based on interpreter. inform is inform games in the root of the archivers there are interpriters folders for zcode, tads, etc. When I go to the archive where do I go to find the games? I see a bunch of stuff but not sure of where to go to download these games. Thanks in advance. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Hayden Presley Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2010 7:05 PM To: 'Gamers Discussion list' Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Any interactive fiction fans out there? Hi Mike, Most games, such as those found on the interactive fiction archive, are free to play. However, some of (or all of) the companies I've ever heard of that make these games end up charing a fee to play them, or in the Infocom/Level9 days, buying them on floppy disc. Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of mike maslo Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2010 7:02 PM To: 'Gamers Discussion list' Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Any interactive fiction fans out there? Dark: Thanks a lot for the links and will check them all out. Are all interactive fictions cost money or are there free stuff out there? -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of dark Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2010 3:22 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Any interactive fiction fans out there? Hmmm, I can't recall azteca specifically, but remember how well you c an interact with game elements depends very much on how much of a brain the creator had. I spent ages trying to get through the fireplace in the pentory prequal, --- north, (sinse it was in the north wall), enter fire place you can't enter that when it turned out I had to type in, for the love of pete! I don't remember any such issue with azteca, but I will confess this business with the prequal, and the fact that I can make no headway whatsoever with the demo of the first game rather put me off malinch's stuff. As with regular fiction though, this just depends upon who wrote the game, and there is a lot more interactive fiction available than just malinches' stuff, check those links I sent in the previous message for starters, then have a look at http://www.wurb.com/if/ and search for something with good reviews that looks interesting. personally, I'd recommend stuff by emily short, paul obrian and aAndrew plotkin, but again this depends upon my personal preference for weerd exploritory fantasy stuff. Beware the Grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: mike maslo mmaslo1...@swbell.net To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2010 7:17 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Any interactive fiction fans out there? Dark: Well I am trying to figure out azteca and I got to embarrassing point of the jaguar room but can't figure out how to open the wall by the jaguar. I see it is very similar to muds and sometimes the concepts on how it works. I will ask questions as I run across them but it looks great so far. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of dark Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2010 11:42 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Any interactive fiction fans out there? Hi mike. No problem with traffic about if on this list, --- ask away. If you are a newby though, you could do much worse than checking out http://www.microheaven.com/IFGuide/step2.html which have a great beginners' guide. I'd also recommend you try the game dreamhold by andrew plotkin found at http://ifarchive.heanet.ie/if-archive/games/zcode/dreamhold.z8 you can run this with windows frotz, winfrotz (including the winfrotz tts version which outputs directly to sapi), or anything which plays z code game files. It's a really great story and adventure, but whats' more is it's probably the best introduction to If I've seen. there are various ones knocking about, but for a hands on in game intro going through how to give commands, and what puzles are, dreamhold is deffinately my favourite (not the least because it's an incredibly interesting game and story in it's own right). hth. Beware the Grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: mike maslo mmaslo1...@swbell.net To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2010 4:46 PM Subject: [Audyssey] Any interactive fiction fans out there? Hi List: Are there any interactive fiction fans out there? If so, can you please contact me off list? I would sincerely appreciate a newbie to this area some help and explanations and do not want to fill this list with more traffic. Thanks in advance. --- Gamers mailing
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Well it does take a few seconds, but that probably depends upon your machines' speed and how many things you've got running. Beware the Grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: michael barnes c...@samobile.net To: gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, April 05, 2010 4:16 AM Subject: [Audyssey] messege to dark hey man i also notice that some times the game take alittle time to come up when i select it from my desktop. -- Email services provided by the System Access Mobile Network. Visit www.serotek.com to learn more about accessibility anywhere. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Any interactive fiction fans out there?
Sean what agt files have you? I have a game called sos, son of stage fright but can';t play it now. Wish I could in windows. Lisa Hayes www.nutrimetics.com.au/lisahayes - Original Message - From: shaun everiss shau...@xtra.co.nz To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, April 05, 2010 7:04 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Any interactive fiction fans out there? well I didn't care for zork myself dungeon and dunjin were my things I played. on that note is there any way to play agt files in windows like you play other files I have tads and frotz working hugo and glulx which I am happy using right now but agt and maybe a windows advint interpreter would make a cool addition for the stuff that uses it. unfortunately there are several dos games I know which I can't play but stil the majority is playable now. To be honest haiden, I never got on well with zork, but then again I personally prefer if games which have more background than just go into the dungeon and grab treasures and more than random puzles. In fact I must admit, some if puzles just irritate me for their total lack of logic. ah, so I was supposed to open the catch on the rusty door by blowing the whistle at the bird to scare it off, getting the egg from the nest, then droping the newspaper and twigs on the floor and using the magnifying glass to focus sunlight, then putting the dustbin lid ontop, dropping in the egg, frying it and using it to greace the rusty latch! how silly of me not to realize that perfectly rational change of logic! I must confess this is why I don't really play much If anymore, sinse it's too much trouble to try and filter the to me, interesting exploration and story based stuff from all the games based on absurd puzles which i then need to look at a walkthrough to guess. Of course, this might just be because I'm probably more inclined toward rpgs and that style of play myself in general, and didn't grown up with the classic if or get into the method of playing it. Beware the grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: Hayden Presley hdpres...@hotmail.com To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, April 05, 2010 1:01 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Any interactive fiction fans out there? Hi Dark, In regards to an earlier post of yours, I know what you mean. I was playing the zcode version of zork, and I had no idea how to enter the mirror to get to the door in the endgame. The walkthrough I had said enter the box. This did work at all. I found out that I had to simply type enter. That was a relief to finally figure out, though exasperating none the saime--I do like the way that one was combined from the three infocom zorks, and it doesn't hurt they added a bit here and there. Best Regards, Hayden --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Hi Thomas, Yeah, WWE and TNA especially the Knockout division. And maybe some UFC as well. When I was young and had site I golfed and was on a bowling league for years. I also liked to watch Indy racing, drag racing and bowling. None of those excite me to listen to. I do though enjoy listening to NASCAR racing. It would be cool to make a wrestling game, but I have other projects lined up for now and truthfully life has really slowed me down lately. BFN Jim Enjoy life! There's plenty of time to be dead! j...@kitchensinc.net http://www.kitchensinc.net (440) 286-6920 Chardon Ohio USA --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Hi Robert, I am sorry, but I think that you must have talked with someone else about Racko, vb6 and an AI book. I do not find that at all in my Email archives. And I have never read or known about any AI books. BFN - Original Message - Hello Jim, awhile back I talked to you about writing a game in VB6. The game was based on the 2-4 player card game called, Racko. I asked you about artificial intelligence and I think you recommended a book to me. Can you tell me again what that book was? or can anyone else on this list recommend a good beginner AI book to start with. thanks Robert --- Jim DON'T READ THIS!!! j...@kitchensinc.net http://www.kitchensinc.net (440) 286-6920 Chardon Ohio USA --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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well I have cosmoserve starship piramids of mars and a few others lostin space I think The game I will most miss is cosmoserve. though thinking of it now it would be weird to play it in a windows environment. dos related screens don't work so well anyway, in hugo playing futureboy the screen in the fake dos window of the computer does not read. using the solution file I am able to solve that part of the game but I can't muck with the interface which is a shame. This is one reason why I still wish I had a dos system. At 09:39 p.m. 5/04/2010, you wrote: Sean what agt files have you? I have a game called sos, son of stage fright but can';t play it now. Wish I could in windows. Lisa Hayes www.nutrimetics.com.au/lisahayes - Original Message - From: shaun everiss shau...@xtra.co.nz To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, April 05, 2010 7:04 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Any interactive fiction fans out there? well I didn't care for zork myself dungeon and dunjin were my things I played. on that note is there any way to play agt files in windows like you play other files I have tads and frotz working hugo and glulx which I am happy using right now but agt and maybe a windows advint interpreter would make a cool addition for the stuff that uses it. unfortunately there are several dos games I know which I can't play but stil the majority is playable now. To be honest haiden, I never got on well with zork, but then again I personally prefer if games which have more background than just go into the dungeon and grab treasures and more than random puzles. In fact I must admit, some if puzles just irritate me for their total lack of logic. ah, so I was supposed to open the catch on the rusty door by blowing the whistle at the bird to scare it off, getting the egg from the nest, then droping the newspaper and twigs on the floor and using the magnifying glass to focus sunlight, then putting the dustbin lid ontop, dropping in the egg, frying it and using it to greace the rusty latch! how silly of me not to realize that perfectly rational change of logic! I must confess this is why I don't really play much If anymore, sinse it's too much trouble to try and filter the to me, interesting exploration and story based stuff from all the games based on absurd puzles which i then need to look at a walkthrough to guess. Of course, this might just be because I'm probably more inclined toward rpgs and that style of play myself in general, and didn't grown up with the classic if or get into the method of playing it. Beware the grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: Hayden Presley hdpres...@hotmail.com To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, April 05, 2010 1:01 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Any interactive fiction fans out there? Hi Dark, In regards to an earlier post of yours, I know what you mean. I was playing the zcode version of zork, and I had no idea how to enter the mirror to get to the door in the endgame. The walkthrough I had said enter the box. This did work at all. I found out that I had to simply type enter. That was a relief to finally figure out, though exasperating none the saime--I do like the way that one was combined from the three infocom zorks, and it doesn't hurt they added a bit here and there. Best Regards, Hayden --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via
Re: [Audyssey] Any interactive fiction fans out there?
Me too, I heard their was a windows version of agt is this true and if so co you have it or know where I can get it. I'd love to convert sos to windows. Thanks. Lisa Hayes www.nutrimetics.com.au/lisahayes - Original Message - From: shaun everiss shau...@xtra.co.nz To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, April 05, 2010 8:34 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Any interactive fiction fans out there? well I have cosmoserve starship piramids of mars and a few others lostin space I think The game I will most miss is cosmoserve. though thinking of it now it would be weird to play it in a windows environment. dos related screens don't work so well anyway, in hugo playing futureboy the screen in the fake dos window of the computer does not read. using the solution file I am able to solve that part of the game but I can't muck with the interface which is a shame. This is one reason why I still wish I had a dos system. At 09:39 p.m. 5/04/2010, you wrote: Sean what agt files have you? I have a game called sos, son of stage fright but can';t play it now. Wish I could in windows. Lisa Hayes www.nutrimetics.com.au/lisahayes - Original Message - From: shaun everiss shau...@xtra.co.nz To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, April 05, 2010 7:04 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Any interactive fiction fans out there? well I didn't care for zork myself dungeon and dunjin were my things I played. on that note is there any way to play agt files in windows like you play other files I have tads and frotz working hugo and glulx which I am happy using right now but agt and maybe a windows advint interpreter would make a cool addition for the stuff that uses it. unfortunately there are several dos games I know which I can't play but stil the majority is playable now. To be honest haiden, I never got on well with zork, but then again I personally prefer if games which have more background than just go into the dungeon and grab treasures and more than random puzles. In fact I must admit, some if puzles just irritate me for their total lack of logic. ah, so I was supposed to open the catch on the rusty door by blowing the whistle at the bird to scare it off, getting the egg from the nest, then droping the newspaper and twigs on the floor and using the magnifying glass to focus sunlight, then putting the dustbin lid ontop, dropping in the egg, frying it and using it to greace the rusty latch! how silly of me not to realize that perfectly rational change of logic! I must confess this is why I don't really play much If anymore, sinse it's too much trouble to try and filter the to me, interesting exploration and story based stuff from all the games based on absurd puzles which i then need to look at a walkthrough to guess. Of course, this might just be because I'm probably more inclined toward rpgs and that style of play myself in general, and didn't grown up with the classic if or get into the method of playing it. Beware the grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: Hayden Presley hdpres...@hotmail.com To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, April 05, 2010 1:01 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Any interactive fiction fans out there? Hi Dark, In regards to an earlier post of yours, I know what you mean. I was playing the zcode version of zork, and I had no idea how to enter the mirror to get to the door in the endgame. The walkthrough I had said enter the box. This did work at all. I found out that I had to simply type enter. That was a relief to finally figure out, though exasperating none the saime--I do like the way that one was combined from the three infocom zorks, and it doesn't hurt they added a bit here and there. Best Regards, Hayden --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at
Re: [Audyssey] multiple player game
Hi, In deed. Unfortunately WWE especially is very controling regarding their copyrights. I'm not sure I could legally get away with using actual super stars names without getting in serious hot water. I guess if you or I wrote a wrestling game all of the wrestlers in the game would have to have fake names. Anyway, I know what you mean. I like Nascar racing too, and that's the reason I took control over Raceway. I plan to model it after Nascar Thunder. That's a sighted game for the PC I have which is really cool, but not completely accessible. Like Nascar Thunder I'm trying to create a true driving simulator using actual physics, and that part of the game is really tough. On 4/5/10, Jim Kitchen j...@kitchensinc.net wrote: Hi Thomas, Yeah, WWE and TNA especially the Knockout division. And maybe some UFC as well. When I was young and had site I golfed and was on a bowling league for years. I also liked to watch Indy racing, drag racing and bowling. None of those excite me to listen to. I do though enjoy listening to NASCAR racing. It would be cool to make a wrestling game, but I have other projects lined up for now and truthfully life has really slowed me down lately. BFN --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] Winfrotz 1.16 - with a speech option
Ok, actually found out that if I got hold of the installer for windows frotz 1.16 from http://ifarchive.heanet.ie/ then it has a speech option that can then be turned on, so will now finally be able to actually play the interactive fiction games have here nowwhoohoo! This is just the standard windows frotz installation, not the specifically TTS version. http://ifarchive.heanet.ie/if-archive/infocom/interpreters/frotz/WindowsFrotzInstaller.exe Found it on this page where you can also download the source code for it, but which doesn't seem to want to compile on my machine after I pulled it into visual studio.net, and allowed it to handle the conversion, but anyway: http://ifarchive.heanet.ie/indexes/if-archiveXinfocomXinterpretersXfrotz.html Stay well Jacob Kruger Blind Biker Skype: BlindZA '...fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...' __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 5002 (20100405) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] important messege to entombed players
i had to reload my computer and so i install entombed back on my computer. but everytime i log in it keep acting like i didn't buy the game. i even put in my transaction number that it ask for but still won't let me unlock the full game on my computer. so what do i do? -- Email services provided by the System Access Mobile Network. Visit www.serotek.com to learn more about accessibility anywhere. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] important messege to entombed players
You might have to contact Jason about the problem. Do you love audio games? Would you like to chat about BGt a game creation tool for the blind? Do you need any tips or tricks on any sought of game? Do you need to ask questions about buying a game and help for the game? Well, this is the right place for you then! If you would like to joyn, just send a blank email to. audiogamesfortheblind+subscr...@googlegroups.com With the subject subscribe in the subject line. Contact infermation. email: muhamme...@googlemail.com msn: muhammed123...@hotmail.co.uk Skype: muhammed.deniz Klango username. muhammed - Original Message - From: michael barnes c...@samobile.net To: gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, April 05, 2010 7:52 PM Subject: [Audyssey] important messege to entombed players i had to reload my computer and so i install entombed back on my computer. but everytime i log in it keep acting like i didn't buy the game. i even put in my transaction number that it ask for but still won't let me unlock the full game on my computer. so what do i do? -- Email services provided by the System Access Mobile Network. Visit www.serotek.com to learn more about accessibility anywhere. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Winfrotz 1.16 - with a speech option
Hi Jacub. If I remember rightly, windows frotz and win frotz are actually two different programs, --- though they are similar (I'm not sure if windows frotz is an earlier version). I do know win frotz tts is built on an older version of win frotz than the current one, because I actually foundthat win frotz tts won't play some of the infocom games like king arthur, where as standard win frotz will. Tts is convenient, but I played using Hal's virtual focus for a long while (actually a couple of years before I started playing audio games), so I don't find this too much of a pest. in fact, i originally used windows frotz on my old laptop with windows 98, but found the speech not to work (I had no idea sapi even existed back then or that I had to install it), but found Hal quite sufficient. It's a shame tts wasn't updated to the latest win frotz, but I'm generally not sure how the tts developement is going, or even if developement is continuing at all. Btw, this really! takes me back. Beware the Grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Winfrotz 1.16 - with a speech option
Jacub? Lol! Do you love audio games? Would you like to chat about BGt a game creation tool for the blind? Do you need any tips or tricks on any sought of game? Do you need to ask questions about buying a game and help for the game? Well, this is the right place for you then! If you would like to joyn, just send a blank email to. audiogamesfortheblind+subscr...@googlegroups.com With the subject subscribe in the subject line. Contact infermation. email: muhamme...@googlemail.com msn: muhammed123...@hotmail.co.uk Skype: muhammed.deniz Klango username. muhammed - Original Message - From: dark d...@xgam.org To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, April 05, 2010 8:29 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Winfrotz 1.16 - with a speech option Hi Jacub. If I remember rightly, windows frotz and win frotz are actually two different programs, --- though they are similar (I'm not sure if windows frotz is an earlier version). I do know win frotz tts is built on an older version of win frotz than the current one, because I actually foundthat win frotz tts won't play some of the infocom games like king arthur, where as standard win frotz will. Tts is convenient, but I played using Hal's virtual focus for a long while (actually a couple of years before I started playing audio games), so I don't find this too much of a pest. in fact, i originally used windows frotz on my old laptop with windows 98, but found the speech not to work (I had no idea sapi even existed back then or that I had to install it), but found Hal quite sufficient. It's a shame tts wasn't updated to the latest win frotz, but I'm generally not sure how the tts developement is going, or even if developement is continuing at all. Btw, this really! takes me back. Beware the Grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] How did you start?
Hi. all this talk about if Is getting me a litle nostalgic, so i thought a topic about how people got into audio games and such might be fun. For me, I'd always played what graffical games my eyesite could cope with, first on an atari 2600 (at age 3 and 4), then an amstrad cpc computer (similar to a comador 64), a comador amigar and finally a Snes (which i stil own). But in the mid 90's with the 32 bit 3D era, the number of games I could play dropped from about thirty percent, to almost none. Though I used a laptop for school work, and university, it never occurred to me I could do anything with it bar write. Yes, I had the DD manuals and used it to do some tabletop gaming in about 99-2000 before I went to uni, but I never actually thought of games. It wasn't until 2003, that I saw an artical in a braille publication mentioning tom lorimers' whitestick.co.uk site and accessible computer games. Despite a lot of net access shinanigans (hal version 5 and internet access was fairly new at that stage), I found toms' site, and played a number of online games like ashes of angels and legend of the green dragon. I do remember checking the offline games page, but A, the idea of a game with sound I found rather bizarre, and B, I was stil using a five year old laptop with windows 98. I did however play a lot of if. Things went on. I started on Sryth in late 2004, bought an xp desktop in mid 2005, then ran into Bryan peterson. When finding we both had defficient eyeballs and an interest in exploration games he directed me towards shades of doom (I stil remember sitting up all night playing it), and by degrees audiogames.net. Sinse this corresponded with me finishing my masters and for various confusing academic reasons having a lot of free time, i signed up to the audiogames.net forum in 2006, and spent the next few months trying almost the entire audiogames.net database, signing up to the audeasy list somewhere along the line. And the rest is history. Beware the Grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] important messege to entombed players
You don't need the transaction number, just your account name and password, and to create an account you must enter the E-mail address tied to your paypal account. If you entered all those details right there shouldn't be a problem (but remember right, means letter exact). Beware the Grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: michael barnes c...@samobile.net To: gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, April 05, 2010 7:52 PM Subject: [Audyssey] important messege to entombed players i had to reload my computer and so i install entombed back on my computer. but everytime i log in it keep acting like i didn't buy the game. i even put in my transaction number that it ask for but still won't let me unlock the full game on my computer. so what do i do? -- Email services provided by the System Access Mobile Network. Visit www.serotek.com to learn more about accessibility anywhere. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] How did you start?
Hi, yes, now you Dark made me a little nostalgic. I was also playing some games, mostly on the sega platform, since 1998, alongside my sided friends. From 2001 to 2003 I didn't play anything, and then I hurd about some games for the blind people. I was wondering how it could work, and the first game I found was Jim's Mach 1. Then I played the battleship from gamesfortheblind.com, and finally I found gmagames and audiogames. Then 3 years ago I found the malich games, and started playing the interactive fiction, and a year after that I started learning to program in inform 7. In the meantime, I am still an active audiogamer. Milos Przic msn: milos.pr...@gmail.com skype: Milosh-hs - Original Message - From: dark d...@xgam.org To: Gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, April 05, 2010 9:42 PM Subject: [Audyssey] How did you start? Hi. all this talk about if Is getting me a litle nostalgic, so i thought a topic about how people got into audio games and such might be fun. For me, I'd always played what graffical games my eyesite could cope with, first on an atari 2600 (at age 3 and 4), then an amstrad cpc computer (similar to a comador 64), a comador amigar and finally a Snes (which i stil own). But in the mid 90's with the 32 bit 3D era, the number of games I could play dropped from about thirty percent, to almost none. Though I used a laptop for school work, and university, it never occurred to me I could do anything with it bar write. Yes, I had the DD manuals and used it to do some tabletop gaming in about 99-2000 before I went to uni, but I never actually thought of games. It wasn't until 2003, that I saw an artical in a braille publication mentioning tom lorimers' whitestick.co.uk site and accessible computer games. Despite a lot of net access shinanigans (hal version 5 and internet access was fairly new at that stage), I found toms' site, and played a number of online games like ashes of angels and legend of the green dragon. I do remember checking the offline games page, but A, the idea of a game with sound I found rather bizarre, and B, I was stil using a five year old laptop with windows 98. I did however play a lot of if. Things went on. I started on Sryth in late 2004, bought an xp desktop in mid 2005, then ran into Bryan peterson. When finding we both had defficient eyeballs and an interest in exploration games he directed me towards shades of doom (I stil remember sitting up all night playing it), and by degrees audiogames.net. Sinse this corresponded with me finishing my masters and for various confusing academic reasons having a lot of free time, i signed up to the audiogames.net forum in 2006, and spent the next few months trying almost the entire audiogames.net database, signing up to the audeasy list somewhere along the line. And the rest is history. Beware the Grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 5002 (20100405) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 5002 (20100405) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] dark here a question
i did like you told me but when i create a new account it tell me that my email is already in use. so what do i do? -- Email services provided by the System Access Mobile Network. Visit www.serotek.com to learn more about accessibility anywhere. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Any interactive fiction fans out there?
well I never heard of agt for windows. there was agility I think but it means you need to convert the games and I really havn't tried it. at any rate I think it takes away the feel having to recompile the stuff so I can play it on another editer and I never had luck with it anyway. I wish there was agt for windows. At 10:47 p.m. 5/04/2010, you wrote: Me too, I heard their was a windows version of agt is this true and if so co you have it or know where I can get it. I'd love to convert sos to windows. Thanks. Lisa Hayes www.nutrimetics.com.au/lisahayes - Original Message - From: shaun everiss shau...@xtra.co.nz To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, April 05, 2010 8:34 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Any interactive fiction fans out there? well I have cosmoserve starship piramids of mars and a few others lostin space I think The game I will most miss is cosmoserve. though thinking of it now it would be weird to play it in a windows environment. dos related screens don't work so well anyway, in hugo playing futureboy the screen in the fake dos window of the computer does not read. using the solution file I am able to solve that part of the game but I can't muck with the interface which is a shame. This is one reason why I still wish I had a dos system. At 09:39 p.m. 5/04/2010, you wrote: Sean what agt files have you? I have a game called sos, son of stage fright but can';t play it now. Wish I could in windows. Lisa Hayes www.nutrimetics.com.au/lisahayes - Original Message - From: shaun everiss shau...@xtra.co.nz To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, April 05, 2010 7:04 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Any interactive fiction fans out there? well I didn't care for zork myself dungeon and dunjin were my things I played. on that note is there any way to play agt files in windows like you play other files I have tads and frotz working hugo and glulx which I am happy using right now but agt and maybe a windows advint interpreter would make a cool addition for the stuff that uses it. unfortunately there are several dos games I know which I can't play but stil the majority is playable now. To be honest haiden, I never got on well with zork, but then again I personally prefer if games which have more background than just go into the dungeon and grab treasures and more than random puzles. In fact I must admit, some if puzles just irritate me for their total lack of logic. ah, so I was supposed to open the catch on the rusty door by blowing the whistle at the bird to scare it off, getting the egg from the nest, then droping the newspaper and twigs on the floor and using the magnifying glass to focus sunlight, then putting the dustbin lid ontop, dropping in the egg, frying it and using it to greace the rusty latch! how silly of me not to realize that perfectly rational change of logic! I must confess this is why I don't really play much If anymore, sinse it's too much trouble to try and filter the to me, interesting exploration and story based stuff from all the games based on absurd puzles which i then need to look at a walkthrough to guess. Of course, this might just be because I'm probably more inclined toward rpgs and that style of play myself in general, and didn't grown up with the classic if or get into the method of playing it. Beware the grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: Hayden Presley hdpres...@hotmail.com To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, April 05, 2010 1:01 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Any interactive fiction fans out there? Hi Dark, In regards to an earlier post of yours, I know what you mean. I was playing the zcode version of zork, and I had no idea how to enter the mirror to get to the door in the endgame. The walkthrough I had said enter the box. This did work at all. I found out that I had to simply type enter. That was a relief to finally figure out, though exasperating none the saime--I do like the way that one was combined from the three infocom zorks, and it doesn't hurt they added a bit here and there. Best Regards, Hayden --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] How did you start?
Hi, Well, as many of you know I was sighted for many years. the very first video game I can remember playing was Packman on my Atari 2600 around 1982 or so. I later got several more games from that era such as Demon Attack, Space Invaders, Missile Command, etc. All the classics in other words. Around 1985 or so I got a Colleco for Christmas and started playing games like Donkey Kong, Mouse Trap, Smirfs, Zaxon, and several other games I probably don't recall any more. 1987 I had switched game consoles yet again moving to the Nintendo Entertainment System. It pretty much goes without saying I had all the major games such as Megaman, Mario, Double Dragon, Ninja Turtles, Castlevania, and several more. In fact, I still have the NES and most of the games in my living room closet. By this time in my life I was beginning to have a harder time playing the games because I couldn't see the tv screen very well. Things were often blurry, but it didn't stop me from continuing to play. By the 1990's my next major game console, if you wish to call it that, was an IBM 486 with 4 MB of ram. I played various games such as Duke Nukem, Overkill, and plenty of games I just don't remember now. I had several. In 1996, when I was a senior in high school, I got a new IBM with Windows 95 on it. About that time there were a number of popular PC games such as Heroes of Might and Magic, Tomb Raider, Top Gun, Doom, Jedi Knight, etc which I played. These were really the last games I could really play as I really couldn't see them well, and I was using Jaws 2.0 to access the PC because I couldn't see the words, icons, etc. It basically was just a mindless mess of blurry colors. Around 1998 I started looking for accessible games. A friend of mine in college gave me some of Jim Kitchens self-voicing games. Those proved to be fun little time waisters, but I wanted something more. So I kept looking. Eventually, I found GMA's web site with Lonewolf and Trek 2000 which I purchased right away. About this time Shades of Doom was in testing, and I recall buying it not long after it came out. As it happens the GMA Games site had a link to the Audyssey Magazine list and I joined to find out more about it. After that the rest is history. I have been floating around in the audio games community ever since. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] dark here a question
Try the change password option in the main menue, --- that's what it's for. Oviously your account is fine, you just need a correct password. Beware the Grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: michael barnes c...@samobile.net To: gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, April 05, 2010 10:11 PM Subject: [Audyssey] dark here a question i did like you told me but when i create a new account it tell me that my email is already in use. so what do i do? -- Email services provided by the System Access Mobile Network. Visit www.serotek.com to learn more about accessibility anywhere. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] dark here a question
i did that last night but i'll give it another try but if that don't work what do i do? -- Email services provided by the System Access Mobile Network. Visit www.serotek.com to learn more about accessibility anywhere. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] dark here a question
I'd Email Jason if you're still having problems. He seems like a fair, reasonable guy. He should be able to help you out if the rest of us can't. He who is valiant and pure of spirit may find the holy grail in the castle of ggh. - Original Message - From: michael barnes c...@samobile.net To: gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, April 05, 2010 3:31 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] dark here a question i did that last night but i'll give it another try but if that don't work what do i do? -- Email services provided by the System Access Mobile Network. Visit www.serotek.com to learn more about accessibility anywhere. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] How did you start?
Interesting tom, we were probably playin some of the same atari games like packman, berzerk and space invaders in 1985 and 6, accept I was about three or four at the time ;D. I also stil own and play my Snes, (it's hooked up to my pc monitor right now), but having been collecting games sinse the early 90's, it's actually getting to the point where I'm running out of games I can play available for the console. Pluss of course about the most complex games I can play are things like super metroid or some of the later Mega man games, sinse I can't read in game text at all. I have been considdering the wii, purely for wii ware titles, but the menues are just too much of a nightmare with my level of sight, which is very frustrating! But before I get into low vision stuff I'll stop. Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] How did you start?
Hi, Yeah, I find the Wii a bit more than I can handle. The menus are tricky enough, but the Wii motes take something to get use to. I was playing the Wii with my family last night and I couldn't get the hang of the motes as hard as I tried I couldn't ski straight to save my life. I move to rapidly and I'd go way left or way right, or spin around in a circle because the Wii motes are so motion sensative. it takes a certain practice, a certain touch, to get them to work right. Cool, but very difficult from my perspective. Cheers! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] important messege to entombed players
well since the scoreboards are down I think other things may be to. no idea, maybe jayson is putting the market up but shouldn't take everything down but hmph. At 06:52 a.m. 6/04/2010, you wrote: i had to reload my computer and so i install entombed back on my computer. but everytime i log in it keep acting like i didn't buy the game. i even put in my transaction number that it ask for but still won't let me unlock the full game on my computer. so what do i do? -- Email services provided by the System Access Mobile Network. Visit www.serotek.com to learn more about accessibility anywhere. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] How did you start?
Hello Dark and others, my ixperance was this. I started playing audio games in til 2007 and my laptop was broken alittle bit. It was a rubbish school hp laptop. Ok, I said to my teacher that I want a new computer and my teacher ordered one and it came. When the computer came, I started playing pipe 2, hunter and troopanum 2 including gma tank commander. I sat everyday on my laptop and I always was on audio games and looking for new games. I found treasure hunt and I didn't really take an interest at it. But ok, let me take a chance on this game. I watched Philips review, then I was really hooked. I downloaded treasure hunt then I had a problem with the game. I joyned the bpc discussion list, but at first I wasn't willing to joyn and then I gave the chance. Obviously I behaved much more sillyer because I didn't know how to act on mailing lists at the time. It was last year. I also joyned the entombed discussion group. Ok, with out me knowing, mota beta 10 was released. I joyned the USA games mailing list and then had a bit of fun. Then, I pushed the block. Probably I had about 20 or 30 games now. My ixperance is this, though Dark interesting topic indeed. Do you love audio games? Would you like to chat about BGt a game creation tool for the blind? Do you need any tips or tricks on any sought of game? Do you need to ask questions about buying a game and help for the game? Well, this is the right place for you then! If you would like to joyn, just send a blank email to. audiogamesfortheblind+subscr...@googlegroups.com With the subject subscribe in the subject line. Contact infermation. email: muhamme...@googlemail.com msn: muhammed123...@hotmail.co.uk Skype: muhammed.deniz Klango username. muhammed - Original Message - From: dark d...@xgam.org To: Gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, April 05, 2010 8:42 PM Subject: [Audyssey] How did you start? Hi. all this talk about if Is getting me a litle nostalgic, so i thought a topic about how people got into audio games and such might be fun. For me, I'd always played what graffical games my eyesite could cope with, first on an atari 2600 (at age 3 and 4), then an amstrad cpc computer (similar to a comador 64), a comador amigar and finally a Snes (which i stil own). But in the mid 90's with the 32 bit 3D era, the number of games I could play dropped from about thirty percent, to almost none. Though I used a laptop for school work, and university, it never occurred to me I could do anything with it bar write. Yes, I had the DD manuals and used it to do some tabletop gaming in about 99-2000 before I went to uni, but I never actually thought of games. It wasn't until 2003, that I saw an artical in a braille publication mentioning tom lorimers' whitestick.co.uk site and accessible computer games. Despite a lot of net access shinanigans (hal version 5 and internet access was fairly new at that stage), I found toms' site, and played a number of online games like ashes of angels and legend of the green dragon. I do remember checking the offline games page, but A, the idea of a game with sound I found rather bizarre, and B, I was stil using a five year old laptop with windows 98. I did however play a lot of if. Things went on. I started on Sryth in late 2004, bought an xp desktop in mid 2005, then ran into Bryan peterson. When finding we both had defficient eyeballs and an interest in exploration games he directed me towards shades of doom (I stil remember sitting up all night playing it), and by degrees audiogames.net. Sinse this corresponded with me finishing my masters and for various confusing academic reasons having a lot of free time, i signed up to the audiogames.net forum in 2006, and spent the next few months trying almost the entire audiogames.net database, signing up to the audeasy list somewhere along the line. And the rest is history. Beware the Grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] How did you start?
I really love the wii! Do you love audio games? Would you like to chat about BGt a game creation tool for the blind? Do you need any tips or tricks on any sought of game? Do you need to ask questions about buying a game and help for the game? Well, this is the right place for you then! If you would like to joyn, just send a blank email to. audiogamesfortheblind+subscr...@googlegroups.com With the subject subscribe in the subject line. Contact infermation. email: muhamme...@googlemail.com msn: muhammed123...@hotmail.co.uk Skype: muhammed.deniz Klango username. muhammed - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, April 05, 2010 10:38 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] How did you start? Hi, Yeah, I find the Wii a bit more than I can handle. The menus are tricky enough, but the Wii motes take something to get use to. I was playing the Wii with my family last night and I couldn't get the hang of the motes as hard as I tried I couldn't ski straight to save my life. I move to rapidly and I'd go way left or way right, or spin around in a circle because the Wii motes are so motion sensative. it takes a certain practice, a certain touch, to get them to work right. Cool, but very difficult from my perspective. Cheers! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Winfrotz 1.16 - with a speech option
Only thing have really noticed while trying to get this working up to now, is that most of the different versions you find are all oldish, whereas, this installation package in fact seems to have been put together/uploaded to that site dated as [26-Nov-2009]. Don't think it can handle things like glulx scripts, but most of the games have here are *.z5 or *.z8 and it's fine with them. Stay well Jacob Kruger Blind Biker Skype: BlindZA '...fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...' - Original Message - From: dark d...@xgam.org To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, April 05, 2010 9:29 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Winfrotz 1.16 - with a speech option Hi Jacub. If I remember rightly, windows frotz and win frotz are actually two different programs, --- though they are similar (I'm not sure if windows frotz is an earlier version). I do know win frotz tts is built on an older version of win frotz than the current one, because I actually foundthat win frotz tts won't play some of the infocom games like king arthur, where as standard win frotz will. Tts is convenient, but I played using Hal's virtual focus for a long while (actually a couple of years before I started playing audio games), so I don't find this too much of a pest. in fact, i originally used windows frotz on my old laptop with windows 98, but found the speech not to work (I had no idea sapi even existed back then or that I had to install it), but found Hal quite sufficient. It's a shame tts wasn't updated to the latest win frotz, but I'm generally not sure how the tts developement is going, or even if developement is continuing at all. Btw, this really! takes me back. Beware the Grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 5002 (20100405) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 5002 (20100405) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] How did you start?
I think the very first game was told about was that chess game that only works with jaws, but then I think that got me started looking, and can't remember where/why heard about/found it, but I found out about kitchensinc.net, and from there it's just been looking around until I found audiogames.net, and this was all in 2006. Stay well Jacob Kruger Blind Biker Skype: BlindZA '...fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...' - Original Message - From: dark d...@xgam.org To: Gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, April 05, 2010 9:42 PM Subject: [Audyssey] How did you start? Hi. all this talk about if Is getting me a litle nostalgic, so i thought a topic about how people got into audio games and such might be fun. For me, I'd always played what graffical games my eyesite could cope with, first on an atari 2600 (at age 3 and 4), then an amstrad cpc computer (similar to a comador 64), a comador amigar and finally a Snes (which i stil own). But in the mid 90's with the 32 bit 3D era, the number of games I could play dropped from about thirty percent, to almost none. Though I used a laptop for school work, and university, it never occurred to me I could do anything with it bar write. Yes, I had the DD manuals and used it to do some tabletop gaming in about 99-2000 before I went to uni, but I never actually thought of games. It wasn't until 2003, that I saw an artical in a braille publication mentioning tom lorimers' whitestick.co.uk site and accessible computer games. Despite a lot of net access shinanigans (hal version 5 and internet access was fairly new at that stage), I found toms' site, and played a number of online games like ashes of angels and legend of the green dragon. I do remember checking the offline games page, but A, the idea of a game with sound I found rather bizarre, and B, I was stil using a five year old laptop with windows 98. I did however play a lot of if. Things went on. I started on Sryth in late 2004, bought an xp desktop in mid 2005, then ran into Bryan peterson. When finding we both had defficient eyeballs and an interest in exploration games he directed me towards shades of doom (I stil remember sitting up all night playing it), and by degrees audiogames.net. Sinse this corresponded with me finishing my masters and for various confusing academic reasons having a lot of free time, i signed up to the audiogames.net forum in 2006, and spent the next few months trying almost the entire audiogames.net database, signing up to the audeasy list somewhere along the line. And the rest is history. Beware the Grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 5002 (20100405) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 5002 (20100405) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] How did you start?
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Re: [Audyssey] How did you start?
here how i got into audio games. i started back in school i played the old dos text games. like shoot 96 and run for prisident and destiation mars. i didn't play them as much as i did video games because at the time i had some sight. in 2008 someone told me about jim's games. and so i tried them out i notice that they had the fell of old gaming with a new gaming feel. what i mean is when i play the baseball game it reminded me of the nintendo day in the 80's and it also reminded me of today games sound. at the time i started to play jim's games i had some sight left so i was playing ps2 games. but when i had lost my sight i still wanted to play games so i begin to play jim's games alot just like the way i play video games. since i've been doing audio gaming i notice that the games are just like a video game accept with no video. i have been playing shades of doom and pac man talk and kitchensinc and railracer and sarah and the castle and top speed and entombed. and these games have given me a great reason to pick up a controller and to talk with others about games. i would like to thank people like jim kitchen and other audio game makers out their for the hard work. -- Email services provided by the System Access Mobile Network. Visit www.serotek.com to learn more about accessibility anywhere. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] Online games
I will be able to use a computer with system access to go today . Any ideas for online fast paced games I can try, with lots of action. Lindsay Cowell --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] Mud Connect and Vipmud.
Hi all. I'm trying out the Vipmud client from GMA Games and went to the Mud connect site, but does anyone know how to specifically search for text muds? I found a mud on their site but can't find the host and port info so I can add it to the Vipmud directly. I think it's trying to connect me through the mudconnect.com site, as it's asking what name I want to be called, but I don't want to have to play through the Web site itself. Just thought I'd ask here in case anyone knows. This is all new to me as I haven't dealt with muds before, so thought I'd check it out. MissWings --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Any interactive fiction fans out there?
Hi, I've never heard of a windows version of AGT myself--where'd you hear about that/ Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of shaun everiss Sent: Monday, April 05, 2010 4:21 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Any interactive fiction fans out there? well I never heard of agt for windows. there was agility I think but it means you need to convert the games and I really havn't tried it. at any rate I think it takes away the feel having to recompile the stuff so I can play it on another editer and I never had luck with it anyway. I wish there was agt for windows. At 10:47 p.m. 5/04/2010, you wrote: Me too, I heard their was a windows version of agt is this true and if so co you have it or know where I can get it. I'd love to convert sos to windows. Thanks. Lisa Hayes www.nutrimetics.com.au/lisahayes - Original Message - From: shaun everiss shau...@xtra.co.nz To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, April 05, 2010 8:34 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Any interactive fiction fans out there? well I have cosmoserve starship piramids of mars and a few others lostin space I think The game I will most miss is cosmoserve. though thinking of it now it would be weird to play it in a windows environment. dos related screens don't work so well anyway, in hugo playing futureboy the screen in the fake dos window of the computer does not read. using the solution file I am able to solve that part of the game but I can't muck with the interface which is a shame. This is one reason why I still wish I had a dos system. At 09:39 p.m. 5/04/2010, you wrote: Sean what agt files have you? I have a game called sos, son of stage fright but can';t play it now. Wish I could in windows. Lisa Hayes www.nutrimetics.com.au/lisahayes - Original Message - From: shaun everiss shau...@xtra.co.nz To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, April 05, 2010 7:04 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Any interactive fiction fans out there? well I didn't care for zork myself dungeon and dunjin were my things I played. on that note is there any way to play agt files in windows like you play other files I have tads and frotz working hugo and glulx which I am happy using right now but agt and maybe a windows advint interpreter would make a cool addition for the stuff that uses it. unfortunately there are several dos games I know which I can't play but stil the majority is playable now. To be honest haiden, I never got on well with zork, but then again I personally prefer if games which have more background than just go into the dungeon and grab treasures and more than random puzles. In fact I must admit, some if puzles just irritate me for their total lack of logic. ah, so I was supposed to open the catch on the rusty door by blowing the whistle at the bird to scare it off, getting the egg from the nest, then droping the newspaper and twigs on the floor and using the magnifying glass to focus sunlight, then putting the dustbin lid ontop, dropping in the egg, frying it and using it to greace the rusty latch! how silly of me not to realize that perfectly rational change of logic! I must confess this is why I don't really play much If anymore, sinse it's too much trouble to try and filter the to me, interesting exploration and story based stuff from all the games based on absurd puzles which i then need to look at a walkthrough to guess. Of course, this might just be because I'm probably more inclined toward rpgs and that style of play myself in general, and didn't grown up with the classic if or get into the method of playing it. Beware the grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: Hayden Presley hdpres...@hotmail.com To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, April 05, 2010 1:01 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Any interactive fiction fans out there? Hi Dark, In regards to an earlier post of yours, I know what you mean. I was playing the zcode version of zork, and I had no idea how to enter the mirror to get to the door in the endgame. The walkthrough I had said enter the box. This did work at all. I found out that I had to simply type enter. That was a relief to finally figure out, though exasperating none the saime--I do like the way that one was combined from the three infocom zorks, and it doesn't hurt they added a bit here and there. Best Regards, Hayden --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __
Re: [Audyssey] Winfrotz 1.16 - with a speech option
Hi, You actually have that one as an inform zcode file? The onlycopy I have right now has them as DOS applications in .com format, and some of them, like King Arthur, trinity, and A Mind Forever Voyaging, or either in. exe format (JAWS does not seem to particularly like the format on those) or they're in .com format and don't read correctly or at all. Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Muhammed Deniz Sent: Monday, April 05, 2010 2:32 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Winfrotz 1.16 - with a speech option Jacub? Lol! Do you love audio games? Would you like to chat about BGt a game creation tool for the blind? Do you need any tips or tricks on any sought of game? Do you need to ask questions about buying a game and help for the game? Well, this is the right place for you then! If you would like to joyn, just send a blank email to. audiogamesfortheblind+subscr...@googlegroups.com With the subject subscribe in the subject line. Contact infermation. email: muhamme...@googlemail.com msn: muhammed123...@hotmail.co.uk Skype: muhammed.deniz Klango username. muhammed - Original Message - From: dark d...@xgam.org To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, April 05, 2010 8:29 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Winfrotz 1.16 - with a speech option Hi Jacub. If I remember rightly, windows frotz and win frotz are actually two different programs, --- though they are similar (I'm not sure if windows frotz is an earlier version). I do know win frotz tts is built on an older version of win frotz than the current one, because I actually foundthat win frotz tts won't play some of the infocom games like king arthur, where as standard win frotz will. Tts is convenient, but I played using Hal's virtual focus for a long while (actually a couple of years before I started playing audio games), so I don't find this too much of a pest. in fact, i originally used windows frotz on my old laptop with windows 98, but found the speech not to work (I had no idea sapi even existed back then or that I had to install it), but found Hal quite sufficient. It's a shame tts wasn't updated to the latest win frotz, but I'm generally not sure how the tts developement is going, or even if developement is continuing at all. Btw, this really! takes me back. Beware the Grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Any interactive fiction fans out there?
Hi, You had trouble with the main IfArchive site? Hmmm...that's strange; I have no trouble at all using it. Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of shaun everiss Sent: Monday, April 05, 2010 4:06 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Any interactive fiction fans out there? well firstly hit one of the mirrors ifarchive is slow and bad. select plover or mirror.ifarchive.org next go to games there are games based on interpreter. inform is inform games in the root of the archivers there are interpriters folders for zcode, tads, etc. When I go to the archive where do I go to find the games? I see a bunch of stuff but not sure of where to go to download these games. Thanks in advance. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Hayden Presley Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2010 7:05 PM To: 'Gamers Discussion list' Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Any interactive fiction fans out there? Hi Mike, Most games, such as those found on the interactive fiction archive, are free to play. However, some of (or all of) the companies I've ever heard of that make these games end up charing a fee to play them, or in the Infocom/Level9 days, buying them on floppy disc. Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of mike maslo Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2010 7:02 PM To: 'Gamers Discussion list' Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Any interactive fiction fans out there? Dark: Thanks a lot for the links and will check them all out. Are all interactive fictions cost money or are there free stuff out there? -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of dark Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2010 3:22 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Any interactive fiction fans out there? Hmmm, I can't recall azteca specifically, but remember how well you c an interact with game elements depends very much on how much of a brain the creator had. I spent ages trying to get through the fireplace in the pentory prequal, --- north, (sinse it was in the north wall), enter fire place you can't enter that when it turned out I had to type in, for the love of pete! I don't remember any such issue with azteca, but I will confess this business with the prequal, and the fact that I can make no headway whatsoever with the demo of the first game rather put me off malinch's stuff. As with regular fiction though, this just depends upon who wrote the game, and there is a lot more interactive fiction available than just malinches' stuff, check those links I sent in the previous message for starters, then have a look at http://www.wurb.com/if/ and search for something with good reviews that looks interesting. personally, I'd recommend stuff by emily short, paul obrian and aAndrew plotkin, but again this depends upon my personal preference for weerd exploritory fantasy stuff. Beware the Grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: mike maslo mmaslo1...@swbell.net To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2010 7:17 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Any interactive fiction fans out there? Dark: Well I am trying to figure out azteca and I got to embarrassing point of the jaguar room but can't figure out how to open the wall by the jaguar. I see it is very similar to muds and sometimes the concepts on how it works. I will ask questions as I run across them but it looks great so far. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of dark Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2010 11:42 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Any interactive fiction fans out there? Hi mike. No problem with traffic about if on this list, --- ask away. If you are a newby though, you could do much worse than checking out http://www.microheaven.com/IFGuide/step2.html which have a great beginners' guide. I'd also recommend you try the game dreamhold by andrew plotkin found at http://ifarchive.heanet.ie/if-archive/games/zcode/dreamhold.z8 you can run this with windows frotz, winfrotz (including the winfrotz tts version which outputs directly to sapi), or anything which plays z code game files. It's a really great story and adventure, but whats' more is it's probably the best introduction to If I've seen. there are various ones knocking about, but for a hands on in game intro going through how to give commands, and what puzles are, dreamhold is deffinately my favourite (not the least because it's an incredibly interesting game and story in it's own right). hth. Beware the Grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: mike maslo mmaslo1...@swbell.net To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org
Re: [Audyssey] Any interactive fiction fans out there?
Hi Shaun, Dungeon? What's that one? I recognize your other one, but the only D U N G E O N I know is the compliation of the three zorks. Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of shaun everiss Sent: Monday, April 05, 2010 4:04 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Any interactive fiction fans out there? well I didn't care for zork myself dungeon and dunjin were my things I played. on that note is there any way to play agt files in windows like you play other files I have tads and frotz working hugo and glulx which I am happy using right now but agt and maybe a windows advint interpreter would make a cool addition for the stuff that uses it. unfortunately there are several dos games I know which I can't play but stil the majority is playable now. To be honest haiden, I never got on well with zork, but then again I personally prefer if games which have more background than just go into the dungeon and grab treasures and more than random puzles. In fact I must admit, some if puzles just irritate me for their total lack of logic. ah, so I was supposed to open the catch on the rusty door by blowing the whistle at the bird to scare it off, getting the egg from the nest, then droping the newspaper and twigs on the floor and using the magnifying glass to focus sunlight, then putting the dustbin lid ontop, dropping in the egg, frying it and using it to greace the rusty latch! how silly of me not to realize that perfectly rational change of logic! I must confess this is why I don't really play much If anymore, sinse it's too much trouble to try and filter the to me, interesting exploration and story based stuff from all the games based on absurd puzles which i then need to look at a walkthrough to guess. Of course, this might just be because I'm probably more inclined toward rpgs and that style of play myself in general, and didn't grown up with the classic if or get into the method of playing it. Beware the grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: Hayden Presley hdpres...@hotmail.com To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, April 05, 2010 1:01 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Any interactive fiction fans out there? Hi Dark, In regards to an earlier post of yours, I know what you mean. I was playing the zcode version of zork, and I had no idea how to enter the mirror to get to the door in the endgame. The walkthrough I had said enter the box. This did work at all. I found out that I had to simply type enter. That was a relief to finally figure out, though exasperating none the saime--I do like the way that one was combined from the three infocom zorks, and it doesn't hurt they added a bit here and there. Best Regards, Hayden --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] someone please help
Hi, They work moving him, it's that you don't hear the movement. Try going into the preferences screen then simply choosing save without modifying your options. HTH, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of michael barnes Sent: Monday, April 05, 2010 12:32 AM To: gamers@audyssey.org Subject: [Audyssey] someone please help for some reason my arrow keys work in all the menu of entombed but it won't move my character. what could this be causing this? -- Email services provided by the System Access Mobile Network. Visit www.serotek.com to learn more about accessibility anywhere. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] something for all of you gamers
Hi Michael, Maybe it's just that I've not had much experience with joysticks as it relates to accessible titles or RPGs in general but I don't really think that it does much for Entomb besides probably slowing it down. Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of michael barnes Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2010 11:21 PM To: gamers@audyssey.org Subject: [Audyssey] something for all of you gamers have any of you ever wanted to use a controller for some of these games that was only made to play with the keyboard? well here is something that might interest you all. if you go to google and search for joy2key you can get a free program that will let you use your controller for keyboard games. here is exsample i got entombed and as you all know it is a keyboard game only but with joy2key it let you use your controller to play the game. here what it does it basically let you assign keys to the controller you want to use. this don't just work with games it also work with other programs. check it out i enjoy useing joy2key to play some of my games that was only meant for the keyboard. especially entombed because it gives me the feel of a great rpg that it is. -- Email services provided by the System Access Mobile Network. Visit www.serotek.com to learn more about accessibility anywhere. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] to hayden presley
thanks for the info. like i was saying before on the list i've been having trouble with getting entombed to activate the full game. i had to reinstall the game to my computer and when i did it ask to upgrade to the full game. so i log in and it said that it couldn't see where i pay for the game and then it ask me for my transaction number so i put it in and it still say it don't see where i pay. i did like dark told me and change my password and i sent three messeges to jason but he have not reply. so what do i do? -- Email services provided by the System Access Mobile Network. Visit www.serotek.com to learn more about accessibility anywhere. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] How did you start?
hi all this is a good topic i think and very interesting. i went to the royal nattional college in 2001 and never knew their where games out their for people like us. like you i was playing games on the atarie saiga megadrive and playstation with sighted assistance and their where very fiew game i could play. how ever when i went to rnc in 2001 i bumped in to will lomas who is also on this list. he told me about audio games and got me all the audicy magazeens to read. then it just went from their really. although with other things i have to do now i do not get much time for games but i love the fact i was introduced to this wunderful way of blind people gaming. so keep the games comming i hope to enjoy them for years to come yet. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] to Miss Wings on mud client
Okay, I'll do my best here since I've used vip-mud and mudconnect.com. First, when you go to the mud connect sitee choose I think it's the 3rd link on the page something about mud listings and that will give you the choice of finding a game by name, category, mud code type, or to use the mud connect big list. I prefer the mud big list since, though it does list every game by alphabetical order, it does give you a link for the mud home page if it has one and also tells you if the mud is connected, timed out, or connection refused. To get the mud port number you should click on the mud game name and it will bring up another page filled with stats, a brief overview and more. Near the top, after where it says to log in then to go to the member site, you'll find the stats and it will show you the game ranking, the code base, when it was created, and then the site which for example might say mudconnect.com 5000 that is the address and the port number if this was a real mud game. Some have long numbers like 6565 98.9.900.22 but you only need the main first numbers for the port number to enter into the mud client. Don't click on play now or a connect button as that will think you want to use telnet and if your running jaws, that's a pain and not worth the time it takes to use. Usually, vip-mud wants the character name you want to be, the mud game name, the mud game site address, and the port number. Though I've heard the David Greenwood from GMA Games is or was working on an updated version of the vip-mud client, but its not available yet. If you're looking strictly for text-based games, you might want browser based games you can play through your internet browser without downloading a client or worrying about port numbers. If you need more help finding either a mud game or browser game, let me know kind of what you're looking for and I can send along links. Good luck. Chastity chastitymo...@msn.commailto:chastitymo...@msn.com there are several ways to search for games, one is by name, one is by game code what its written in, one is by general category like vampires or harry potter, and the last is through the big mud list where it lists every game in alphabetical order with its name a www link for the home page and tells you if the game is connect or timed out or connection refused. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Online games
THere's lots of them. Unfortunately. They aren't accessible. Flash and all that. On Apr 5, 2010, at 7:26 PM, Lindsay Cowell wrote: I will be able to use a computer with system access to go today . Any ideas for online fast paced games I can try, with lots of action. Lindsay Cowell --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] bgt tutorial suggestion
I was just wondering if there was a chance of making the bgt audio tutorial into a PDF or textfile or a link that will come up in text. For those of us that learn by reading instead of listening, it would be a great improvement. Thanks: Chastity --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Mud Connect and Vipmud.
hi. when you find a mud, look for the line that says site. that will have for example site: valhalla.com port 5000 this is just an example. but thats what it would look like. and it also might have an IP after it. this is just another way to connect to it. - Original Message - From: MissWings misswi...@lorettotel.net To: Gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2010 10:09 Subject: [Audyssey] Mud Connect and Vipmud. Hi all. I'm trying out the Vipmud client from GMA Games and went to the Mud connect site, but does anyone know how to specifically search for text muds? I found a mud on their site but can't find the host and port info so I can add it to the Vipmud directly. I think it's trying to connect me through the mudconnect.com site, as it's asking what name I want to be called, but I don't want to have to play through the Web site itself. Just thought I'd ask here in case anyone knows. This is all new to me as I haven't dealt with muds before, so thought I'd check it out. MissWings --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] WINDOWS AGT INTERPRETER
hI LIZ AND ALL. OK GUYS TODAY i WAS BORD SO LOOKED AGAIN AT THE AGILITY WINDOWS INTERPRETER. i CONVERTED THE GAMES INTO THE AGX SO THEY COULD RUN BETTER APARENTLY. HOWEVER IN GHAMES LIKE COSMOSERVE THE GAME DOES NOT HAVE THE PC SPEAKER MAKE THE NOISES YOU HEAR IN THE GAME. AFTER YOU START THE COMPUTER THE SYSTEM COMES UP BUT YOU DON'T SEE ANY PROMPTS. THE REST OF THE GAMES SEEM TO WORK. HOWEVER THIS MEANS THERE ARE LIMITS i FEAR UNLESS THERE IS ANOTHER INTERPRETER. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Online games
WELL i HAVE ALWAYS FOUND THE GAMES AT FFPROJECT.COM TO BE A GOOD TIME WASTER. IN FACT i MAY BOTHER WITH THIS FOR A BIT NOW. At 11:26 a.m. 6/04/2010, you wrote: I will be able to use a computer with system access to go today . Any ideas for online fast paced games I can try, with lots of action. Lindsay Cowell --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Any interactive fiction fans out there?
dungeon and dunjin were semi zork remakes for dos. unfortunately like a few dos games these are dos exe files so I can't play them in windows. I can play now all tads and frotz stuff and some agt titles still testing agility compiled files. At 12:24 p.m. 6/04/2010, you wrote: Hi Shaun, Dungeon? What's that one? I recognize your other one, but the only D U N G E O N I know is the compliation of the three zorks. Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of shaun everiss Sent: Monday, April 05, 2010 4:04 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Any interactive fiction fans out there? well I didn't care for zork myself dungeon and dunjin were my things I played. on that note is there any way to play agt files in windows like you play other files I have tads and frotz working hugo and glulx which I am happy using right now but agt and maybe a windows advint interpreter would make a cool addition for the stuff that uses it. unfortunately there are several dos games I know which I can't play but stil the majority is playable now. To be honest haiden, I never got on well with zork, but then again I personally prefer if games which have more background than just go into the dungeon and grab treasures and more than random puzles. In fact I must admit, some if puzles just irritate me for their total lack of logic. ah, so I was supposed to open the catch on the rusty door by blowing the whistle at the bird to scare it off, getting the egg from the nest, then droping the newspaper and twigs on the floor and using the magnifying glass to focus sunlight, then putting the dustbin lid ontop, dropping in the egg, frying it and using it to greace the rusty latch! how silly of me not to realize that perfectly rational change of logic! I must confess this is why I don't really play much If anymore, sinse it's too much trouble to try and filter the to me, interesting exploration and story based stuff from all the games based on absurd puzles which i then need to look at a walkthrough to guess. Of course, this might just be because I'm probably more inclined toward rpgs and that style of play myself in general, and didn't grown up with the classic if or get into the method of playing it. Beware the grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: Hayden Presley hdpres...@hotmail.com To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, April 05, 2010 1:01 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Any interactive fiction fans out there? Hi Dark, In regards to an earlier post of yours, I know what you mean. I was playing the zcode version of zork, and I had no idea how to enter the mirror to get to the door in the endgame. The walkthrough I had said enter the box. This did work at all. I found out that I had to simply type enter. That was a relief to finally figure out, though exasperating none the saime--I do like the way that one was combined from the three infocom zorks, and it doesn't hurt they added a bit here and there. Best Regards, Hayden --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to
Re: [Audyssey] How did you start?
Hmmm since people seem to be discussing this. I got into audio games by accident. in about 1993 I started mucking with dad's old disks and found things I could play. My first real text game was from a friend and it was called intergalactic battle. you could be be oryan klingon I think romulan and federation and andromidan I think not soure I think you could be cardation. anyway you could have set games against your oponants or the computer. the main screen was graphical but the system was controled with menus. After I got on the net I was on the old henrichsen site which is now dead and found various files called aud1.zip, etc. I was curious, because well I was thinking it was something to do. I downloaded the files and read them. as i went through each mag i followed the links and read the articles. up to then I had not even heard anything about interactive fiction. in fact I did not get the net till 1995. my first real audio game was sod alpha1 in 1996 I think. from 1995 till 2000 I used an old 386 system which had been mangled some what due to me dropping it off the desk. the thing is now dead for ever more but I played dos stuff till then. after that I made several attempts to play old stuff again. this year I have finally got round to bothering with interpreters for windows fully so we will see where this goes. Actually I suppose I should thank josh for asking for my archive of games in the first place because since switching to hard drive recordings I have not touched my cdr collection. I had to sort this out and again got interested. At 01:01 p.m. 6/04/2010, you wrote: hi all this is a good topic i think and very interesting. i went to the royal nattional college in 2001 and never knew their where games out their for people like us. like you i was playing games on the atarie saiga megadrive and playstation with sighted assistance and their where very fiew game i could play. how ever when i went to rnc in 2001 i bumped in to will lomas who is also on this list. he told me about audio games and got me all the audicy magazeens to read. then it just went from their really. although with other things i have to do now i do not get much time for games but i love the fact i was introduced to this wunderful way of blind people gaming. so keep the games comming i hope to enjoy them for years to come yet. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Online games
there are games like core exiles but they are not exactly fast paced. I know there are flash games which are ok but I can't remember check www.audiogames.net they seem to be the main database for just about everything in the industry. even experimental stuff. Even if you don't submit anything if you are a dev the stuff is eventually assimilated into the collective. the people do a good job of keeping this updated. Its hard to remember when we did not have this free database but in 1999- early 2000 I think we didn't have it. At 01:38 p.m. 6/04/2010, you wrote: THere's lots of them. Unfortunately. They aren't accessible. Flash and all that. On Apr 5, 2010, at 7:26 PM, Lindsay Cowell wrote: I will be able to use a computer with system access to go today . Any ideas for online fast paced games I can try, with lots of action. Lindsay Cowell --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] How did you start?
Well I started with a keynote and only could play dos stuff then, beyond the titanic, hitch hikers all the infocom stuff got on to the original yahoo audyssey list in 2000 through Paul nimoo who was here and put my windows 98 computer together met and love sod and all the other audio stuff. Lisa Hayes www.nutrimetics.com.au/lisahayes - Original Message - From: dark d...@xgam.org To: Gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2010 5:42 AM Subject: [Audyssey] How did you start? Hi. all this talk about if Is getting me a litle nostalgic, so i thought a topic about how people got into audio games and such might be fun. For me, I'd always played what graffical games my eyesite could cope with, first on an atari 2600 (at age 3 and 4), then an amstrad cpc computer (similar to a comador 64), a comador amigar and finally a Snes (which i stil own). But in the mid 90's with the 32 bit 3D era, the number of games I could play dropped from about thirty percent, to almost none. Though I used a laptop for school work, and university, it never occurred to me I could do anything with it bar write. Yes, I had the DD manuals and used it to do some tabletop gaming in about 99-2000 before I went to uni, but I never actually thought of games. It wasn't until 2003, that I saw an artical in a braille publication mentioning tom lorimers' whitestick.co.uk site and accessible computer games. Despite a lot of net access shinanigans (hal version 5 and internet access was fairly new at that stage), I found toms' site, and played a number of online games like ashes of angels and legend of the green dragon. I do remember checking the offline games page, but A, the idea of a game with sound I found rather bizarre, and B, I was stil using a five year old laptop with windows 98. I did however play a lot of if. Things went on. I started on Sryth in late 2004, bought an xp desktop in mid 2005, then ran into Bryan peterson. When finding we both had defficient eyeballs and an interest in exploration games he directed me towards shades of doom (I stil remember sitting up all night playing it), and by degrees audiogames.net. Sinse this corresponded with me finishing my masters and for various confusing academic reasons having a lot of free time, i signed up to the audiogames.net forum in 2006, and spent the next few months trying almost the entire audiogames.net database, signing up to the audeasy list somewhere along the line. And the rest is history. Beware the Grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] what to do?
does anyone know how i can contact the maker of entombed? i have already e-mail him three times on the contact link on the blind-games webvsite. but he have not got back with me on my problem with activating the full version of entombed. i did like some of you told me but i can't get it to work. here is what i did first i install the game. then i put my user name and password then it said that it couldn't find a payment so it put a edit box and told me to put my transaction number that you get when you buy the game in the box. so i did that and it gave me the same thing it said it didn't find a payment. so then i try changing my password and that didn't work. now when i log in it don't do nothing. i really like to contact jason so he can fix this problem. or he need to give me my money. because if this is what you got to deal with each time you got to reload your system then i'll give this game a bad name. a friend was going to get the game but they are kind of scare because of what the game is doing to me. -- Email services provided by the System Access Mobile Network. Visit www.serotek.com to learn more about accessibility anywhere. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Any interactive fiction fans out there?
Maybe someone could write agt for windows. feel like doing that Thomas? Lisa Hayes www.nutrimetics.com.au/lisahayes - Original Message - From: shaun everiss shau...@xtra.co.nz To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2010 7:21 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Any interactive fiction fans out there? well I never heard of agt for windows. there was agility I think but it means you need to convert the games and I really havn't tried it. at any rate I think it takes away the feel having to recompile the stuff so I can play it on another editer and I never had luck with it anyway. I wish there was agt for windows. At 10:47 p.m. 5/04/2010, you wrote: Me too, I heard their was a windows version of agt is this true and if so co you have it or know where I can get it. I'd love to convert sos to windows. Thanks. Lisa Hayes www.nutrimetics.com.au/lisahayes - Original Message - From: shaun everiss shau...@xtra.co.nz To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, April 05, 2010 8:34 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Any interactive fiction fans out there? well I have cosmoserve starship piramids of mars and a few others lostin space I think The game I will most miss is cosmoserve. though thinking of it now it would be weird to play it in a windows environment. dos related screens don't work so well anyway, in hugo playing futureboy the screen in the fake dos window of the computer does not read. using the solution file I am able to solve that part of the game but I can't muck with the interface which is a shame. This is one reason why I still wish I had a dos system. At 09:39 p.m. 5/04/2010, you wrote: Sean what agt files have you? I have a game called sos, son of stage fright but can';t play it now. Wish I could in windows. Lisa Hayes www.nutrimetics.com.au/lisahayes - Original Message - From: shaun everiss shau...@xtra.co.nz To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, April 05, 2010 7:04 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Any interactive fiction fans out there? well I didn't care for zork myself dungeon and dunjin were my things I played. on that note is there any way to play agt files in windows like you play other files I have tads and frotz working hugo and glulx which I am happy using right now but agt and maybe a windows advint interpreter would make a cool addition for the stuff that uses it. unfortunately there are several dos games I know which I can't play but stil the majority is playable now. To be honest haiden, I never got on well with zork, but then again I personally prefer if games which have more background than just go into the dungeon and grab treasures and more than random puzles. In fact I must admit, some if puzles just irritate me for their total lack of logic. ah, so I was supposed to open the catch on the rusty door by blowing the whistle at the bird to scare it off, getting the egg from the nest, then droping the newspaper and twigs on the floor and using the magnifying glass to focus sunlight, then putting the dustbin lid ontop, dropping in the egg, frying it and using it to greace the rusty latch! how silly of me not to realize that perfectly rational change of logic! I must confess this is why I don't really play much If anymore, sinse it's too much trouble to try and filter the to me, interesting exploration and story based stuff from all the games based on absurd puzles which i then need to look at a walkthrough to guess. Of course, this might just be because I'm probably more inclined toward rpgs and that style of play myself in general, and didn't grown up with the classic if or get into the method of playing it. Beware the grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: Hayden Presley hdpres...@hotmail.com To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, April 05, 2010 1:01 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Any interactive fiction fans out there? Hi Dark, In regards to an earlier post of yours, I know what you mean. I was playing the zcode version of zork, and I had no idea how to enter the mirror to get to the door in the endgame. The walkthrough I had said enter the box. This did work at all. I found out that I had to simply type enter. That was a relief to finally figure out, though exasperating none the saime--I do like the way that one was combined from the three infocom zorks, and it doesn't hurt they added a bit here and there. Best Regards, Hayden --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to
