Re: [STATUS] Chair report Nov 2005

On Sat, 2005-11-26 at 19:37 +0100, Henning Schmiedehausen wrote: > Well, there is "Silk (R)", a set of Java classes that support object- > oriented general purpose simulation and animation using the Java > programming language. > > See e.g. http://www.informs-sim.org/wsc00papers/037.PDF > > I don

Re: [STATUS] Chair report Nov 2005

. I'm not sure if that matters though. ie) how close does it > have to be etc. > > >> Ideas? > > > > Ideas for a new name? > > Nah, just ideas on how to get things moving. I'll nudge Cliff, and if > there's nothing legally bad, we'll charge in.

Re: [STATUS] Chair report Nov 2005

x27;s nothing legally bad, we'll charge in. Current efforts in this area: archiving inactive Commons Sandbox components. Creating Silk as a future for Taglibs and other subprojects. By speaking of Silk, what's the status? I haven't seem any message here @general (or at the w

Re: [STATUS] Chair report Nov 2005

archiving inactive Commons Sandbox components. Creating Silk as a future for Taglibs and other subprojects. By speaking of Silk, what's the status? I haven't seem any message here @general (or at the wiki) about the project for

[STATUS] Chair report Nov 2005

New idea to help us keep on top of what's going on. Here's the status as far as I know it. A partner version for the pmc@ list will be sent to cover a couple of issues that are currently non-public. - - JCS licensing. I believe these are now resolved. - Silk. I'm

Board report status/infra news

d list tomorrow night, so it really isn't much time, but I wanted at least some community awareness of what I'm saying. Status: === The last quarter is most notable for the Lucene promotion to TLP and the promotion of JCS from within the Turbine subproject to its own subproject

Re: Subversion status + volunteer request

> We reached some concensus about this on turbine-dev. I'm currently > mainly concerned that our maven based build process will lose lots of > information as some maven-plugins are not yet able to process SVN > information. I checked the list - your concern was about dev-activity and file-activity

Re: Subversion status + volunteer request

On Fri, 2004-12-17 at 22:33 -0500, Henri Yandell wrote: > * Turbine We reached some concensus about this on turbine-dev. I'm currently mainly concerned that our maven based build process will lose lots of information as some maven-plugins are not yet able to process SVN information. When th

RE: Subversion status + volunteer request

I'm current working on the conversion instructions for commons, sign me up for site2 as well. Tim > -Original Message- > From: Henri Yandell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, December 17, 2004 9:33 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Subversion status

Subversion status + volunteer request

Thought I'd sum up the current situation with respect to subversion migrations: * Alexandria(do we bother? straight to archives?) * BCEL * BSF * Cactus * Commons TODO. Martin Cooper + Tim O'Brien. * ECS TODO. Robert Burell Donkin. * HiveMind

Status

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Re: Axion / Derby status?

And since they are slated to go to the DB project after incubation, you could watch for news there. John McNally Martin Cooper wrote: You'd likely get better answers on these if you ask the folks in the incubator, since that is the path into the ASF for both of the projects you're asking about. S

RE: Axion / Derby status?

> My understanding is that the Axion folks wanted to wait > until they're done with their 1.0 release at Tigris > before moving So is my understanding as well. > I don't know about Derby. Derby is already in the Incubator and starting to work. --- Noel -

Re: Axion / Derby status?

You'd likely get better answers on these if you ask the folks in the incubator, since that is the path into the ASF for both of the projects you're asking about. See: http://incubator.apache.org/ My understanding is that the Axion folks wanted to wait until they're done with their 1.0 release at

Axion / Derby status?

Hi Guys, Could someone in the know :-) please tell me what the hold up seems to be with Axion moving into the incubator from it's current Tigris site? From an outsiders perspective nothing seems to be happening. Likewise (as appropriate) for Derby? TIA MarkL -

RE: Maven Repository Status

Ship [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Saturday, 24 April 2004 1:01 PM > To: 'Jakarta General List' > Subject: RE: Maven Repository Status > > > I've been asked to mirror the Tapestry and HiveMind > libraries, but haven't been able to find docs on t

RE: Maven Repository Status

Howard M. Lewis Ship wrote: > I've been asked to mirror the Tapestry and HiveMind libraries, but > haven't been able to find docs on > the web about how to do so. > Do you mean for Maven and similar tools, or the basic mirroring requested of all ASF projects? If the latter, it appears that Tapest

Re: Maven Repository Status

CTED] Subject: Maven Repository Status I just wanted to drop everyone a note to let you know that I made the rsync of the java-repository between Apache and Ibiblio much more stable this week. It now occurs every 4 hours (EST 12am, 4am, 8am ...). If you ever encounter issues with your jars not getting

RE: Maven Repository Status

isship.com > -Original Message- > From: Mark R. Diggory [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, April 23, 2004 10:38 AM > To: Avalon Developers List; Jakarta Commons Developers List; > [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; > [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Ma

Re: Maven Repository Status

On Fri, 2004-04-23 at 10:37, Mark R. Diggory wrote: > I just wanted to drop everyone a note to let you know that I made the > rsync of the java-repository between Apache and Ibiblio much more stable > this week. It now occurs every 4 hours (EST 12am, 4am, 8am ...). If you > ever encounter issues

Maven Repository Status

I just wanted to drop everyone a note to let you know that I made the rsync of the java-repository between Apache and Ibiblio much more stable this week. It now occurs every 4 hours (EST 12am, 4am, 8am ...). If you ever encounter issues with your jars not getting synced into ibiblio, please con

RE: status on request to add vendor

> If there is anything else that I need to do please let me know. Ever tossed a ball into a crowd, and watched it fall because everyone expects someone else to deal with it? If nothing happens sooner, ping again in a week or so. I've got to add my own company's information, and I can add yours w

status on request to add vendor

About two weeks ago I submitted a patch to update the vendor list found on the jarkarta website to include our company information. Could someone provide me with a status for this request? If there is anything else that I need to do please let me know. Sincerely, Aaron Jarvis 3GS LLC

Re: Extending the PMC ( was: Re: [PROPOSAL] Proactively encourage TLP status)

On Jan 14, 2004, at 3:30 PM, Henri Yandell wrote: On Wed, 14 Jan 2004, Noel J. Bergman wrote: I don't understand why anything but the actual vote needs to be in private. There should probably be a public nomination list with reasons for hand picking (if hand picked) and a public results list I

RE: Extending the PMC ( was: Re: [PROPOSAL] Proactively encourage TLP status)

Personally, I would send in the list to the board, get it ACK'd, and then celebrate the results with a public congratulatory notice. --- Noel - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [

RE: Extending the PMC ( was: Re: [PROPOSAL] Proactively encourage TLP status)

On Wed, 14 Jan 2004, Noel J. Bergman wrote: > > I don't understand why anything but the actual vote needs to be in > private. > > There should probably be a public nomination list with reasons for hand > > picking (if hand picked) and a public results list > > If you are nominated and not electe

RE: Extending the PMC ( was: Re: [PROPOSAL] Proactively encourage TLP status)

> I don't understand why anything but the actual vote needs to be in private. > There should probably be a public nomination list with reasons for hand > picking (if hand picked) and a public results list If you are nominated and not elected people would know. Otherwise, there is privacy. I do a

Re: Extending the PMC ( was: Re: [PROPOSAL] Proactively encourage TLP status)

Thanks for the update. I don't understand why anything but the actual vote needs to be in private. There should probably be a public nomination list with reasons for hand picking (if hand picked) and a public results list with just a tally, like how JCP does it (http://jcp.org/en/whatsnew/electi

Re: Extending the PMC ( was: Re: [PROPOSAL] Proactively encourage TLP status)

Currently that doesn't happen. Would be nice if it could, but it just doesn't fit. When someone wins a vote, they're invited to join. If they accept, which they signify by joining the PMC list [the Jakarta Chair moderates it], then the Jakarta Chair passes their name onto the board and they're me

Re: Extending the PMC ( was: Re: [PROPOSAL] Proactively encourage TLP status)

Thanks, will results be posted here? -Harish Henri Yandell wrote: A vote is on-going at the moment [ends Sunday] for 20 or so people, but I've not heard of any movement on the plans to increase in a more aggressive way. Hen On Wed, 14 Jan 2004, Harish Krishnaswamy wrote: Anything happening in

Re: Extending the PMC ( was: Re: [PROPOSAL] Proactively encourage TLP status)

A vote is on-going at the moment [ends Sunday] for 20 or so people, but I've not heard of any movement on the plans to increase in a more aggressive way. Hen On Wed, 14 Jan 2004, Harish Krishnaswamy wrote: > Anything happening in this regard? > > -Harish > > Costin Manolache wrote: > > > Ted Hus

Re: Extending the PMC ( was: Re: [PROPOSAL] Proactively encourage TLP status)

Anything happening in this regard? -Harish Costin Manolache wrote: Ted Husted wrote: Right now, the only plan seems to be to nominate committers one-by-one on the PMC list. I'm just saying that we shouldn't play favorites. I believe all Jakarta committers have already earned membership in the

Extending the PMC ( was: Re: [PROPOSAL] Proactively encourage TLP status)

Ted Husted wrote: Right now, the only plan seems to be to nominate committers one-by-one on the PMC list. I'm just saying that we shouldn't play favorites. I believe all Jakarta committers have already earned membership in the PMC; we should tender the offer to every Jakarta committer and let ea

Re: [PROPOSAL] Proactively encourage TLP status

he Software Foundation, Committer > Reply-To: "Jakarta General List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Thu, 01 Jan 2004 05:04:32 +0900 > To: "Jakarta General List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL] Proactively encourage TLP status > > On Wed,

Re: [PROPOSAL] Proactively encourage TLP status

On Wed, 31 Dec 2003 14:27:30 -0500 Andrew C. Oliver wrote: > > In HTTPD/APR world. mostly Apache MEMBERS = Apache COMMITTERS. > > (OH, you pointed it our, 6 months ago ;-)! > You must mean HTTPD PMC Members ~= HTTPD Committers more ore less. Yes. Obvious. HTTPD (Apache HTTP WebServer Project) do

Re: [PROPOSAL] Proactively encourage TLP status

> In HTTPD/APR world. mostly Apache MEMBERS = Apache COMMITTERS. > (OH, you pointed it our, 6 months ago ;-)! > You must mean HTTPD PMC Members ~= HTTPD Committers more ore less. Yes. Size matters. This is obviously not feasible for Jakarta as we are demonstrating so aptly. > You/I "can" see

Re: [PROPOSAL] Proactively encourage TLP status

On Wed, 31 Dec 2003 13:36:27 -0500 Noel J. Bergman wrote: > Tetsuya Kitahata wrote: > > Henri Yandell wrote: > > > Two major options seem to be: > > > 1) Big PMC that everyone is on, with the reality that we have > > >interest in various areas. > > > 2) Promote projects to TLP. > > > 2) is n

RE: [PROPOSAL] Proactively encourage TLP status

Tetsuya Kitahata wrote: > Henri Yandell wrote: > > Two major options seem to be: > > 1) Big PMC that everyone is on, with the reality that we have > >interest in various areas. > > 2) Promote projects to TLP. > 2) is not realistic. Why not? I don't agree that ALL projects should, but Henri d

Re: [PROPOSAL] Proactively encourage TLP status

Hi, Henri and all On Wed, 31 Dec 2003 12:44:31 -0500 (EST) Henri Yandell wrote: > > I'd like to see the "jakarta XXX PMC" groups to be organized into > > subgroups realms. "Jakarta" has it's own brand. You can have either > > "Jakarta POI" or "Apache POI", i guess... subsets of the group. > > ..

Re: [PROPOSAL] Proactively encourage TLP status

On Mon, 29 Dec 2003 10:18:29 -0500 Ted Husted wrote: > If Struts does graduate to a TLP, I would update the wiki page based > on our own experience (if someone doesn't beat me to it) and post a > link to all the DEV lists. (Unless, of course, the growing consensus > changes and the PMC decides to

Re: [PROPOSAL] Proactively encourage TLP status

On Thu, 1 Jan 2004, Tetsuya Kitahata wrote: > On Wed, 31 Dec 2003 12:13:59 -0500 > Andrew C. Oliver wrote: > > > If I were the chair of the Jakarta PMC and a board member and favored seeing > > Jakarta split up into TLPs, I'd do this: > > > > 1. Put everyone on the PMC > > 2. Get them in a reorg

Re: [PROPOSAL] Proactively encourage TLP status

On Wed, 31 Dec 2003 12:13:59 -0500 Andrew C. Oliver wrote: > If I were the chair of the Jakarta PMC and a board member and favored seeing > Jakarta split up into TLPs, I'd do this: > > 1. Put everyone on the PMC > 2. Get them in a reorganization type discussion In HTTPD/APR world. mostly Apache

Re: [PROPOSAL] Proactively encourage TLP status

If I were the chair of the Jakarta PMC and a board member and favored seeing Jakarta split up into TLPs, I'd do this: 1. Put everyone on the PMC 2. Get them in a reorganization type discussion Because the bulk of the 700? committers at Apache are in Jakarta and the bulk of the discussion has no t

Re: [PROPOSAL] Proactively encourage TLP status

Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: On Dec 30, 2003, at 8:37 PM, Harish Krishnaswamy wrote: Martin Cooper wrote: This doesn't seem quite right to me. I agree that when we have voted in a new committer, both the existing committers and the new committer have had the same expectations with respect to t

Re: [PROPOSAL] Proactively encourage TLP status

On Dec 30, 2003, at 8:37 PM, Harish Krishnaswamy wrote: Martin Cooper wrote: This doesn't seem quite right to me. I agree that when we have voted in a new committer, both the existing committers and the new committer have had the same expectations with respect to their rights and responsibilitie

Re: [PROPOSAL] Proactively encourage TLP status

e: [PROPOSAL] Proactively encourage TLP status >I never understand why you keep doing this. There is no 'schism' >between the PMC and the community, and no one is proposing it. >I hate to "appeal to authority" because the ASF charter does provide a >healthy bit of f

Re: [PROPOSAL] Proactively encourage TLP status

Re: [PROPOSAL] Proactively encourage TLP status > > > > >I never understand why you keep doing this. There is no 'schism' > >between the PMC and the community, and no one is proposing it. > > >I hate to "appeal to authority" because the ASF c

Re: [PROPOSAL] Proactively encourage TLP status

On Tue, 30 Dec 2003, Ted Husted wrote: > Right now, the only plan seems to be to nominate committers one-by-one > on the PMC list. I'm just saying that we shouldn't play favorites. I > believe all Jakarta committers have already earned membership in the > PMC; we should tender the offer to every

Re: [PROPOSAL] Proactively encourage TLP status

- Original message > From: "Geir Magnusson Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Jakarta General List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Received: Sun, 28 Dec 2003 16:05:11 -0500 Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL] Proactively encourage TLP status >I never u

Re: [PROPOSAL] Proactively encourage TLP status

+1! On Dec 29, 2003, at 6:01 PM, Danny Angus wrote: We should trust the judgment of our community, let each committer decide for themselves, and then Jakarta be whatever Jakarta wants to be. +1 I totally agree, and I would hope that no one seriously holds any other view. Concern about oversig

RE: [PROPOSAL] Proactively encourage TLP status

> We should trust the judgment of our community, let each committer > decide for themselves, and then Jakarta be whatever Jakarta wants to be. +1 I totally agree, and I would hope that no one seriously holds any other view. Concern about oversight has been flagged as an issue for us to address

Re: [PROPOSAL] Proactively encourage TLP status

Proactively encourage TLP status Because the PMC would consist of those doing the active management (i.e. the active, interested committers) , we have things covered. All active committers should be "interested" or else they wouldn't be active committers. Please - interested in par

Re: [PROPOSAL] Proactively encourage TLP status

- Original message > From: Costin Manolache <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Received: Sun, 28 Dec 2003 12:12:29 -0800 Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL] Proactively encourage TLP status >Ted, Stephen - you are free to propos

Re: [PROPOSAL] Proactively encourage TLP status

- Original message > From: "Geir Magnusson Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Jakarta General List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Received: Sun, 28 Dec 2003 16:05:11 -0500 Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL] Proactively encourage TLP status >Because th

Re: [PROPOSAL] Proactively encourage TLP status

Agreed on the -1 for the proposal's subject line, yet +1 to Stephen's suggestions of preparing Wiki resources for Jakarta sub-projects that want to move to TLP-ness. I do plan to proactively encourage TLP status for Commons, but as a Commons committer. As a Taglibs committer I'm

RE: [PROPOSAL] Proactively encourage TLP status

27;m willing to start with the mega-PMC. I just don't expect it to last. I expect projects to start asking for promotion to TLP status. > The question is how much value you place on Jakarta as a community > versus Jakarta as a website. What in particular makes Jakarta a community, a

Re: [PROPOSAL] Proactively encourage TLP status

-1 My knee jerk reaction to Proactively encourage TLP status" is the same as I had to one of my conservative friend who set out to convert a family of another religion to their true religion. That is repugnant to me, and so is "Proactively encourage TLP status" If you w

Re: EU analogy [PROPOSAL] Proactively encourage TLP status

On Mon, 29 Dec 2003 02:45:18 +0100 Stephen McConnell wrote: > >Perhaps the parallel is that a Struts 'citizen' identifies more with the > >Struts 'country' than the Jakarta 'union'. Of course one key difference is > >that we don't have the individual governments at the country/Struts level. > +100

Re: EU analogy [PROPOSAL] Proactively encourage TLP status

Stephen Colebourne wrote: you haven't seen what the EU has been up to :) Talk about over-regulation... LOL :-) OK, so it is a bad analogy. I don't believe that either Costin or I live in the EU. I don't either. I live in Connecticut, USA. I was always suspicious that someth

Re: EU analogy [PROPOSAL] Proactively encourage TLP status

> >> you haven't seen what the EU has been up to :) Talk about > >> over-regulation... > > > > LOL :-) OK, so it is a bad analogy. I don't believe that either > > Costin or > > I live in the EU. > > I don't either. I live in Connecticut, USA. > > I was always suspicious that something was amis

Re: [PROPOSAL] Proactively encourage TLP status

Stephen McConnell wrote: Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: You also can't get soft cheese at a reasonable temperature in a restaurant under EU regs. They must keep them cold until being served. Ug. I can help you out on this particular subject! No shortage of soft cheese ready for a stated day

Re: [PROPOSAL] Proactively encourage TLP status

Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: You also can't get soft cheese at a reasonable temperature in a restaurant under EU regs. They must keep them cold until being served. Ug. I can help you out on this particular subject! No shortage of soft cheese ready for a stated day of delivery where live. Ste

Re: [PROPOSAL] Proactively encourage TLP status

On Dec 28, 2003, at 6:05 PM, Noel J. Bergman wrote: Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: you haven't seen what the EU has been up to :) Talk about over-regulation... LOL :-) OK, so it is a bad analogy. I don't believe that either Costin or I live in the EU. I don't either. I live in Connecticut, USA.

Re: [PROPOSAL] Proactively encourage TLP status

I'll try to be brief. I agree w/ you - I don't want to have to watch ever project. I'm also not interested in endless debate. I'm also not interested in legislation, process or overbearing procedure. And I'm not interested in breaking up Jakarta. All I want to do is get CLAs signed and maxi

Re: [PROPOSAL] Proactively encourage TLP status

From: "Geir Magnusson Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > We need to get that view corrected, because there is *nothing* that > states that every member of the PMC is *directly* responsible for ever > part of every code, doc, mail list and CVS usage in Jakarta, the key > word is "directly". As a PMC member,

RE: [PROPOSAL] Proactively encourage TLP status

Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: > you haven't seen what the EU has been up to :) Talk about > over-regulation... LOL :-) OK, so it is a bad analogy. I don't believe that either Costin or I live in the EU. > > The PMC is supposed to be performing "the active management of one or > > more projects",

Re: [PROPOSAL] Proactively encourage TLP status

On Dec 28, 2003, at 4:44 PM, Stephen Colebourne wrote: From: "Geir Magnusson Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I think a lot of what you say presupposed some sort of onerous additional work that comes from being a part of the Jakarta PMC. I would argue that it's no different - if you are providing oversig

Re: [PROPOSAL] Proactively encourage TLP status

From: "Geir Magnusson Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > I think a lot of what you say presupposed some sort of onerous > additional work that comes from being a part of the Jakarta PMC. I > would argue that it's no different - if you are providing oversight > independently of Jakarta or part of Jakarta,

Re: [PROPOSAL] Proactively encourage TLP status

> > > LOL. There is no legal requirement that any arbitrary idea that a > > person has *must* be propagated directly to the dev list of each > > sub-project. Let others join in this... > > > >> > >> -Ted. > >> > >> > >>

Re: [PROPOSAL] Proactively encourage TLP status

On Dec 28, 2003, at 3:49 PM, Danny Angus wrote: -1 I don't think the PMC should be doing anything other than encouraging sub-projects to *consider* TLP at this stage. I don't even think they should do that. I don't think the PMC should take a position either way. I don't think there should be

Re: [PROPOSAL] Proactively encourage TLP status

On Dec 28, 2003, at 3:44 PM, Noel J. Bergman wrote: Costin Manolache wrote: I see jakarta more like a union ( EU-style ), were the different projects that joined are mature entities that choose to be part of jakarta ( and can choose to get out - all that's needed is a vote ). And the PMC role is

Re: [PROPOSAL] Proactively encourage TLP status

functional solution, but we can give it a go. I can't see why not. The point of oversight is to catch the cases where things aren't right (i.e. code comes into the CVS that shouldn't w/o incubation) rather than continuously report when things are going well. It is my belief

RE: [PROPOSAL] Proactively encourage TLP status

-1 I don't think the PMC should be doing anything other than encouraging sub-projects to *consider* TLP at this stage. The proposal contains a number of detailed actions most of which I'd wholeheartedly support as they will help sub-projects to consider pro's and con's of promotion. However

RE: [PROPOSAL] Proactively encourage TLP status

Costin Manolache wrote: > I see jakarta more like a union ( EU-style ), were the different > projects that joined are mature entities that choose to be part > of jakarta ( and can choose to get out - all that's needed is a > vote ). And the PMC role is to make sure the rules are respected Project

Re: [PROPOSAL] Proactively encourage TLP status

s *must* be propagated directly to the dev list of each sub-project. Let others join in this... -Ted. - Original message > From: Stephen Colebourne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Jakarta General List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Received: Sun, 28

Re: [PROPOSAL] Proactively encourage TLP status

Stephen Colebourne wrote: From: "Geir Magnusson Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> What really saddens me is the idea of chasing them out the door. To use an analogy, its like being the parents of a family, where the children, aged from 4 to 40, are all living at home. It strikes me that it isn't healthy fo

RE: [PROPOSAL] Proactively encourage TLP status

ing dozens of codebases represents a truely functional solution, but we can give it a go. It is my belief that subsequently more projects are going to want to seek TLP status, and that we will be all the better for it in terms of oversight and direct participation. So the question remains whether Jakarta

Re: [PROPOSAL] Proactively encourage TLP status

On Dec 28, 2003, at 11:26 AM, Stephen Colebourne wrote: From: "Geir Magnusson Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> What really saddens me is the idea of chasing them out the door. To use an analogy, its like being the parents of a family, where the children, aged from 4 to 40, are all living at home. It strik

Re: [PROPOSAL] Proactively encourage TLP status

- Original message > From: "Geir Magnusson Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Jakarta General List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Received: Sun, 28 Dec 2003 11:11:07 -0500 Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL] Proactively encourage TLP status >On Dec 28, 2

Re: [PROPOSAL] Proactively encourage TLP status

From: "Geir Magnusson Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > What really saddens me is the idea of chasing them out the door. To use an analogy, its like being the parents of a family, where the children, aged from 4 to 40, are all living at home. It strikes me that it isn't healthy for that 40 year old to be

Re: [PROPOSAL] Proactively encourage TLP status

e dev list of each sub-project. Let others join in this... > > -Ted. > > > - Original message > > From: Stephen Colebourne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: Jakarta General List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Received: Sun, 28 Dec 2003 14:39:30 + > Subject: [PROP

Re: [PROPOSAL] Proactively encourage TLP status

I have added to the wiki a section on board meeting dates (Jan 21st according to the archives). (If anyone knows a better source, or more dates, please update the wiki). Any suggestions of someone who could commen

Re: [PROPOSAL] Proactively encourage TLP status

> From: Stephen Colebourne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Jakarta General List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Received: Sun, 28 Dec 2003 14:39:30 + Subject: [PROPOSAL] Proactively encourage TLP status There has been considerable emphasis on this list over recent weeks for the st

Re: [PROPOSAL] Proactively encourage TLP status

On Dec 28, 2003, at 10:50 AM, Noel J. Bergman wrote: Geir, I agree with everything that you said, except one. You have the idea that when a project moves to TLP status it leaves Jakarta, and that saddens you. In the above sentence, there is one correct statement : ".. when a project mov

RE: [PROPOSAL] Proactively encourage TLP status

Geir, I agree with everything that you said, except one. You have the idea that when a project moves to TLP status it leaves Jakarta, and that saddens you. You said the same thing when Logging was promoted, and Ceki tried to reassure you that it wasn't going far. Although I concur that pro

RE: [PROPOSAL] Proactively encourage TLP status

ised. -Ted. - Original message > From: Stephen Colebourne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Jakarta General List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Received: Sun, 28 Dec 2003 14:39:30 + Subject: [PROPOSAL] Proactively encourage TLP status >There has been considerab

Re: [PROPOSAL] Proactively encourage TLP status

actively encourage subprojects to reach Top Level Project (TLP) status. It shall do this by - drawing up a list of advantages that TLP status brings - explaining the effect of the ASF only recognizing Jakarta on a subproject's rights - documenting the process, by receiving advice from recent n

[PROPOSAL] Proactively encourage TLP status

ively encourage subprojects to reach Top Level Project (TLP) status. It shall do this by - drawing up a list of advantages that TLP status brings - explaining the effect of the ASF only recognizing Jakarta on a subproject's rights - documenting the process, by receiving advice from recent

Re: [Proposal] HiveMind Service Framework / status

gt; To: Jakarta General List >> Subject: Re: [Proposal] HiveMind Service Framework >> >> >> +1 - there is room enough. >> >> On a related note, what is the current status of HiveMind? >> the site is >> still blanked out in Commons. Could someone

RE: [Proposal] HiveMind Service Framework / status

ard M. Lewis Ship [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2003 8:03 AM > To: 'Jakarta General List' > Subject: RE: [Proposal] HiveMind Service Framework / status > > I'm trying to track down that myself. I need to give my friends at WebCT a > ca

RE: [Proposal] HiveMind Service Framework / status

PM > To: Jakarta General List > Subject: Re: [Proposal] HiveMind Service Framework > > > +1 - there is room enough. > > On a related note, what is the current status of HiveMind? > the site is > still blanked out in Commons. Could someone please update > general

RE: XMLBeans performance and source code status [Re: Proposal: XMLBeans]

OTECTED] Subject: Re: XMLBeans performance and source code status [Re: Proposal: XMLBeans] Eric, What's the relationship between XmlCursor and the JSR-173 Streaming API for XML? Ted Eric Vasilik wrote: >When working with XMLBeans in a strongly typed way (with a Schema), individual >obj

RE: XMLBeans performance and source code status [Re: Proposal: XMLBeans]

Aleksander Slominski wrote: > did you consider "fail quickly" approach that is used in Java > collections (so for example Iterator can detect if it is used > from more > than one thread and fails if it happens)? the other > possibility would be > to allow making some objects (such as configur

Re: XMLBeans performance and source code status [Re: Proposal: XMLBeans]

David Bau wrote: >Adding a few links and other info - > >Eric Vasilik writes: > >>The synchronization described refers to the fact >>that one may manipulate the XML via the XmlCursor >>or the strongly typed XMLBean classes generated from >>the schema > > >As Eric says, we don't want to confuse the

RE: XMLBeans performance and source code status [Re: Proposal: XMLBeans]

Adding a few links and other info - Aleksander Slominski wrote: > http://dev2dev.bea.com/articles/hitesh_seth.jsp that is > good overview but has not enough technical details and > other docs): as far as i can understand actual objects Above you've linked to an XML Journal review reprint. Here i

Re: XMLBeans performance and source code status [Re: Proposal: XMLBeans]

Eric, What's the relationship between XmlCursor and the JSR-173 Streaming API for XML? Ted Eric Vasilik wrote: When working with XMLBeans in a strongly typed way (with a Schema), individual objects are created for each piece of information, usually instances of simple and complex Schema types.

RE: XMLBeans performance and source code status [Re: Proposal: XMLBeans]

ect: XMLBeans performance and source code status [Re: Proposal: XMLBeans] Cliff Schmidt wrote: >>What's compelling about XMLBeans compared to some of the other front >>runners, such as JDOM and XOM, Castor and JAXB? >> >> > >The main difference between XMLBea

XMLBeans performance and source code status [Re: Proposal: XMLBeans]

Cliff Schmidt wrote: What's compelling about XMLBeans compared to some of the other front runners, such as JDOM and XOM, Castor and JAXB? The main difference between XMLBeans and JDOM or XOM is that XMLBeans does not create objects for each XML information item. Instead, it provides cursor-

Re: Incubator DOA (Re: [STATUS] Tapestry [LACK-OF] Progress)

I'd add to the list the Pluto and Charon proposals. I haven't seen any reaction from the incubator to these? I know there was some discussions and issues/hurdles raised by Andy but some sort of acknowledgment would be polite. Note that as a member of the Jakarta PMC I'm -1 on the Pluto proj

Re: moving to a top-level project (was: [Ant nudge STATUS] Better than we thought...)

On Sat, Oct 26, 2002 at 06:11:55PM -0400, Sam Ruby wrote: > Greg Stein wrote: > > > > The Board passes a resolution establishing the PMC. That resolution defines > > who the members of the PMC are, and who the Chair is. Since the Board has > > very little visibility into the Ant community (i.e. wh

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