[geo] Losing Hearts and Minds

2009-10-22 Thread RAU greg
The poll, conducted between Sept. 30 and Oct. 4, finds that 57 percent of respondents believe there is solid evidence that the Earth is warming, down from 71 percent in April 2008. The level was 77 percent in January 2007 and August 2006. How about belief in ocean acidification? -G CLIMATE: 

[geo] Meanwhile...

2009-10-22 Thread RAU greg
Baffin Island reveals dramatic scale of Arctic climate change Study delves back into 200,000 years of history to demonstrate the devastating impact of global warming By Steve Connor, Science Editor Tuesday, 20 October 2009 London's Independent A frozen lake on a remote island off Canada's

[geo] Geoengineers - it's showtime!

2009-11-18 Thread RAU greg
 The Copenhagen conference next month is [correction: was - GR] in my opinion the last chance to stabilise climate at C above pre-industrial levels in a smooth and organised way,  World on course for catastrophic 6° rise, reveal scientistsBy Steve Connor and Michael McCarthy

[geo] Meanwhile, down under(water)

2009-11-23 Thread RAU greg
Published on Monday, November 23, 2009 by The Independent/UKAntarctic Ice Loss Vaster, Faster Than Thought: Studyby The Independent/UKThe East Antarctic icesheet, once seen as largely unaffected by global warming, has lost billions of tonnes of ice since 2006 and could boost sea levels in the

Re: [geo] scale, scope, emphasis, and structure of research programs (or program)

2009-11-25 Thread RAU greg
Ken,Am all for getting a statement together, but am unclear on where this would ultimately be aimed - policy makers, funding agencies, governments, the public/media? -  In any case may I suggest that post-Copenhagen would be an opportune time to lay an overview of the issues and needs on

Re: [geo] Carbon must be sucked from air, says IPCC chief Rajendra Pachauri

2009-11-30 Thread RAU greg
Sam, I second that.  Glad Pachauri's on board.  So how do we proceed?- Greg  --- On Mon, 11/30/09, Sam Carana sam.car...@gmail.com wrote: From: Sam Carana sam.car...@gmail.com Subject: [geo] Carbon must be sucked from air, says IPCC chief Rajendra Pachauri To: geoengineering

Re: [geo] Re: Alternet/Mooney: Will Copenhagen Lead to Radical Climate Experiments?

2009-12-15 Thread RAU greg
Rather than being on the fringe, mainstream (?) Hansen and 350.org require enhanced air capture to achieve their goal. Otherwise it will take decades if not centuries to regain 350 ppm.  (Personally, I'm demanding a much less wimpy and more earth-friendly 280 ppm; any other adherents (or

[geo] Why geoeng must be on the table

2009-12-17 Thread RAU greg
Leaked UN report shows cuts offered at Copenhagen would lead to 3C riseUN secretariat initial draft shows gap of up to 4.2 gigatonnes of CO2 between present pledges and cuts required to limit rise to 2C Read the UN analysis document here  Suzanne Goldenberg, John Vidal and Jonathan Watts in

[geo] OA False Alarm: CO2 is just neutralizing the ocean

2010-08-20 Thread Rau, Greg
What’s next – Acidgate? -Greg http://boss.hawaiireporter.com/ocean-acidification-is-a-misnomer/ Ocean Acidification is a Misnomer BY JACK DINI–A good way to excite people is to tell them that something is becoming more ‘acid,’ as ‘the oceans are undergoing acidification and this is a potential

Re: [geo] Digest for geoengineering@googlegroups.com - 1 Message in 1 Topic

2010-08-22 Thread RAU greg
/topics OA False Alarm: CO2 is just neutralizing the ocean [1 Update]        Topic: OA False Alarm: CO2 is just neutralizing the ocean             Rau, Greg r...@llnl.gov Aug 20 10:54AM -0700         ^                     What’s next – Acidgate? -Greg   http://boss.hawaiireporter.com/ocean

[geo] AEI's Lane discusses economics and politics of geoengineering

2010-08-24 Thread Rau, Greg
-- Forwarded Message From: EE Publishing, LLC eale...@eenews.net Sorry if rerun. - G Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2010 07:36:48 -0700 Subject: EETV -- Climate: AEI's Lane discusses economics and politics of geoengineering http://*www.*eenews.tv An EE Publishing Service OnPoint -- Tue., August 24,

Re: IPCC on geo-engineering Re: [geo] geo eng and new Friends of the Earth EWNI report urges very deep and rapid emission cuts

2011-01-03 Thread Rau, Greg
Why have any odd ducks? How about 1. SRM 2. CDR - distributed 3. CDR - centralized -or- 1. SRM 2. CDR - biological 3. CDR – chemical But then we are ignoring physical such as changing downwelling/thermohaline circulation(?) Not that this is necessarily a contender, but the point is why be

[geo] House - BAU on GHG/Climate

2011-04-08 Thread Rau, Greg
BUDGET: Climate riders invite a midnight shutdown (04/08/2011) Evan Lehmann, EE reporter Urgent efforts to avert a government shutdown at midnight faltered yesterday over Republican initiatives to freeze climate rules, a challenge to the president's environmental priorities at the outset of his

[geo] calling all CDRers

2011-04-08 Thread Rau, Greg
CLIMATE: Barrasso, Bingaman reintroduce CCS prize bill (04/08/2011) Katie Howell, EE reporter Sens. John Barrasso and Jeff Bingaman yesterday reintroduced their bipartisan measure that would award monetary prizes to researchers who figure out a way to suck carbon dioxide directly from the air.

[geo] Meanwhile: Unrosy leadup to Durban

2011-04-13 Thread Rau, Greg
NEGOTIATIONS: When an agenda is not just an agenda (04/11/2011) Lisa Friedman, EE reporter Climate change negotiators returned from a round of talks in Bangkok this weekend with a list of items that nations will address this year leading up to a December summit in Durban, South Africa. But

Re: [geo] Re: calling all CDRers

2011-04-13 Thread Rau, Greg
8, 3:16 pm, Rau, Greg r...@llnl.gov wrote: CLIMATE: Barrasso, Bingaman reintroduce CCS prize bill (04/08/2011) Katie Howell, EE reporter Sens. John Barrasso and Jeff Bingaman yesterday reintroduced their bipartisan measure that would award monetary prizes to researchers who figure out a way

RE: [geo] Re: calling all CDRers

2011-04-14 Thread Rau, Greg
, 2011 10:48 PM To: Rau, Greg Cc: rongretlar...@comcast.net; kcaldeira-gmail; geoengineering Subject: Re: [geo] Re: calling all CDRers From Green Futures magazine, this week, by Alan Knight, who is the director of the Earth Challenge http://www.forumforthefuture.org/greenfutures/articles

[geo] Speaking of losing the Arctic...

2011-04-18 Thread Rau, Greg
SCIENCE: Vanishing ice allows storms to sharply erode Alaska's Arctic coast (04/18/2011) Lauren Morello, EE reporter Portions of the Arctic coast are eroding by more than 26 feet per year, a problem that is likely to worsen as climate change intensifies, according to a new study. The problem is

[geo] New SRM risk/cost analysis

2011-04-19 Thread Rau, Greg
http://climateprogress.org/2011/04/17/aerosol-geoengineering-economics/ Science Sunday: “The economics (or lack thereof) of aerosol geoengineering” Is the aerosol strategy intergenerationally unethical? April 17, 2011 Joe Romm The Gist: Putting reflective aerosols high into the atmosphere to

[geo] Arctic melting; could raise sea 5 feet by 2100

2011-05-03 Thread Rau, Greg
Arctic melting faster, could raise sea 5 feet by 2100 STOCKHOLM (AP) — Arctic ice is melting faster than expected and could raise the average global sea level by as much as five feet this century, an authoritative new report suggests. The study by the international Arctic Monitoring and

[geo] CDR Senate hearing

2011-05-07 Thread Rau, Greg
May 5, 2011 - Committee Meeting Notice Senate Energy and Natural Resourceshttp://www.govtrack.us/congress/committee.xpd?id=SSEG Thu, May 12, 2011 9:30 AM. Hearings to examine carbon capture and sequestration legislation, including S.699, to authorize the Secretary of Energy to carry out a

Re: [geo] Re: Vatican Report

2011-05-09 Thread Rau, Greg
Unclear on the statement “only Biochar ...provides rather than requires energy...” Unless I’m missing something biochar requires massive solar energy input, meaning massive land (and/or ocean?) area management, and probably water and nutrient management as well (additional energy

[geo] CDR: Fool's errand?

2011-05-10 Thread Rau, Greg
There is no doubt about the feasibility of air CO2 capture; Nature does 16 GT worth of net uptake each year. What also seems certain is that concentrating CO2 from air is the last thing you want to do, as fundamental thermodynamics predicts. Where was a discussion about existing and

[geo] Senate hearing

2011-05-12 Thread Rau, Greg
For those interested, archived webcast of Thurs Senate hearing on CCS and air capture here: http://energy.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?Fuseaction=Hearings.LiveStreamHearing_id=bc9e9485-df04-5fb0-8621-ac3afa2b26a6 But perhaps I can save you the agony of watching. The continued economic

Re: [geo] Mineral Rain vs Biological Rain

2011-05-27 Thread Rau, Greg
http://www.terradaily.com/reports/The_role_of_bacteria_in_weather_events_999.html The role of bacteria in weather events A diverse range of particles are capable of serving as IN, but the most active naturally occurring IN are biological in origin, capable of catalyzing ice formations at

Re: [geo] Bonn: CBD geoengineering workshop at the unfccc

2011-05-31 Thread Rau, Greg
Thanks, Emily. If the background statement (below) for the workshop is representative (of civil society views?), then GE might be useful when there is an adequate scientific basis on which to justify such activities and appropriate consideration of the associated risks for the environment and

RE: [geo] Skype-ing Conferences

2011-06-01 Thread Rau, Greg
What/which meetings? -G From: geoengineering@googlegroups.com [geoengineering@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Michael Hayes [voglerl...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2011 2:21 PM To: geoengineering@googlegroups.com Subject: [geo] Skype-ing

Re: [geo] Re: Deep ocean disposal

2011-06-03 Thread Rau, Greg
Unclear how a discussion of methane and fracking got diverted to deep sea CO2 lakes, but if you are suggesting that CCS-captured CO2 be stored as pools in the deep ocean (discussed at some length in Ken’s IPCC chapter:

[geo] A chance to stop 400 GT C addition to air?

2011-06-04 Thread RAU greg
As pointed our by Jim Hansen:http://www.columbia.edu/~jeh1/mailings/2011/20110603_SilenceIsDeadly.pdfthe US State Dept is soliciting comments on the Keystone pipeline that will bring 800,000 barrels Canadian tar sands oil to the US per day.Your voice can be heard

[geo] NYT Geo opinion

2011-06-12 Thread Rau, Greg
NY Times June 10, 2011 Geo-Engineering Can Help Save the Planet By THOMAS E. LOVEJOY Carbon dioxide levels in the atmosphere are pushing 400 parts per million (p.p.m.) — up from the natural pre-industrial level of 280 p.p.m. Emissions for last year were the highest ever. Rather than drift along

[geo] Climate dialogue's new dimension: Terrorism

2011-06-13 Thread Rau, Greg
June 9, 2011, Chronicle of Higher Education After Death Threats to Climate Researchers, Australian Universities Take Tough Protection Measures By Colin Woodard In Australia, the climate for climate-science researchers has deteriorated to an alarming state. At least a dozen university climate

[geo] Merchants of Doubt: The Briefing

2011-06-13 Thread Rau, Greg
EVENT REMINDER Conference Call: Merchants of Doubt The Union of Concerned Scientists is excited to announce a briefing on Merchants of Doubt: How a Handful of Scientists Obscured the Truth on Issues from Tobacco Smoke to Global Warming

RE: [geo] HOME/ETC Group Targets IPCC

2011-06-15 Thread Rau, Greg
From the letter: The likelihood that geoengineering will provide a safe, lasting, democratic and peaceful solution to the climate crisis is non-existent. [please fill us in on the safer, longer lasting, more democratic, and peaceful solutions, and therefore why further evaluation of GE isn't

Re: [geo] Re: HOME/ETC Group Targets IPCC

2011-06-16 Thread Rau, Greg
'Geoengineering is not a public good but could be a giant international scandal with devastating consequences on the poor, said Diana Bronson, a researcher with the ETC Group, an international non-governmental organization.' What is ETC's answer to the devastating consequences to the poor if by

[geo] Air capture prize gets thumbs up from the US CBO

2011-06-21 Thread Rau, Greg
Unlike the Virgin Earth Challenge, perhaps the US government might get serious about awarding an air capture prize, though for less money. May the best idea win (this time). -Greg http://www.govtrack.us/congress/billreport.xpd?bill=s112-757type=cbo Jun 17, 2011 - Report Budget Report for S.

RE: [geo] Cost of Air Capture and the APS report

2011-06-23 Thread Rau, Greg
John, I would not put much credence in APS's $600/tonne CO2 figure. Since $0/tonne air capture now accounts for 50% uptake of emitted CO2 (15GT CO2/yr), it would seem to me that should be plenty of low cost ways of increasing this. If, on the otherhand, you choose to ignore these very

[geo] Sea Level

2011-06-26 Thread Rau, Greg
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2011/06/110620161215.htm Researchers Link Fastest Sea-Level Rise in Two Millennia to Increasing Temperatures ScienceDaily (June 20, 2011) — An international research team including University of Pennsylvania scientists has shown that the rate of sea-level

[geo] Friday lite - Global warming and wine: Bottoms up?

2011-07-01 Thread Rau, Greg
another reason we need GE. - Greg Global warming no friend of California wines: study By Emmett Berg SAN FRANCISCO | Fri Jul 1, 2011 6:03pm IST SAN FRANCISCO (Reuters) - Global warming could make it more difficult for California's prized Napa Valley to make high quality wines over the next 30

[geo] Geo thoughts

2011-07-05 Thread Rau, Greg
Response to Daly's crtique (below) of geo-engineering - The very sad and unappreciated truth is that: a. If all emissions were shut off tomorrow, the sulfate would go away first and that would yield about a W/m2 forcing in first two weeks, perhaps diminished slightly by

[geo] US House: Massive cuts to energy efficiency and renewable energy RD

2011-07-07 Thread Rau, Greg
MO: fossils fuels continue to reign, mortgage the future, deal with the consequences later (i.e. with geo?) - G Appropriations Update. The House will finish debate on the Defense appropriations bill (H.R.2219

Re: [geo] Large scale CCO2 removal from atmosphere

2011-07-11 Thread Rau, Greg
. Chemical names would be a useful addition A On 10 Jul 2011 17:16, Rau, Greg r...@llnl.gov wrote: As for tonnage of mineral no sure if this effects your calc, but isn't the reaction: CO2 + CaSiO3 -- CaCO3 + SiO2 or more likely with silicate minerals: CO2 + MgSiO3 -- MgCO3 + SiO2. If you

Re: [geo] Large scale CCO2 removal from atmosphere

2011-07-11 Thread Rau, Greg
, and iii) vast natural brine electrolytes for air CO2 mitigation and carbon-negative H2 production. That is precisely what we do with the Biorock® Process! Best wishes, Tom On Jul 11, 2011, at 2:41 PM, Rau, Greg wrote: Since the reactions are exothermic and spontaneous, no need for external

Re: [geo] Large scale CCO2 removal from atmosphere

2011-07-11 Thread Rau, Greg
Cl2 formation if NaCl is the electrolyte. Regards, Greg On 7/11/11 12:30 PM, Thomas Goreau gor...@bestweb.net wrote: Sorry if this was not clear. We do NOT use silicates, but do all the rest. On Jul 11, 2011, at 3:08 PM, Rau, Greg wrote: Using silicates as cation sources? I thought your

[geo] RE: Prescriptive statements in scientific papers

2011-07-23 Thread Rau, Greg
Thanks, Dave, for the careful read and perspectives. I too am somewhat confused by the demarcation that Ken refers to. Isn't the entire field of geoengineering prescriptive and hence not science by Ken's definition? How can the science body IPCC publish numerous prescriptive tomes on CO2

[geo] Speaking of methane...

2011-07-26 Thread Rau, Greg
NY Times July 25, 2011 Blame for Extinction Spreads to Methane Gas By SINDYA N. BHANOO Two hundred million years ago, at the end of the Triassic period, a mass extinction, often attributed to major volcanic activity, wiped out half of all marine life on Earth. But new research published in the

[geo] The melting Arctic: Another effect

2011-07-26 Thread Rau, Greg
SCIENCE: Climate change 'remobilizes' long-buried pollutants as Arctic ice melts (07/25/2011) Lauren Morello, EE reporter Warming in the Arctic is causing the release of toxic chemicals long trapped in the region's snow, ice, ocean and soil, according to a new study. Researchers from Canada,

[geo] Know thy enemy...

2011-07-28 Thread Rau, Greg
What is most sobering, especially for the scientific community and climate change communicators, is that climate change denial has actually increased in the U.S. general public between 2001 and 2010, although primarily due to a significant increase in the past two years. Conservative white

Re: [geo] CO2 mitigation via biomass-coal co-firing?

2011-08-03 Thread Rau, Greg
coming up with an effective technological approach. -Original Message- From: geoengineering@googlegroups.com [mailto:geoengineering@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Rau, Greg Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2011 3:56 PM To: geoengineering Subject: [geo] CO2 mitigation via biomass-coal co-firing

[geo] Major BECCS study

2011-08-05 Thread Rau, Greg
http://ruralclimate.files.wordpress.com/2011/08/document_cw_01-2.pdf -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups geoengineering group. To post to this group, send email to geoengineering@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to

[geo] Siberia melting

2011-08-05 Thread RAU greg
Russia may lose 30% of permafrost by 2050(AFP) – Jul 29, 2011  MOSCOW — Russia's vast permafrost areas may shrink by a third by the middle of the century due to global warming, endangering infrastructure in the Arctic zone, an emergencies ministry official said Friday.In the next 25 to 30

RE: [geo] My AGU abstract: We Don¹t Need a ³Geoengineering² Research Program

2011-08-05 Thread Rau, Greg
Good luck -G __ Science And The Debt Deal Politics: Compromise includes cuts that will hit science agencies over the next decade Susan R. Morrissey, Glenn Hess and Raj Mukhopadhyay Legislation signed by President Barack Obama this week to raise the debt ceiling

RE: [geo] Major BECCS study

2011-08-07 Thread Rau, Greg
From: Andrew Lockley [andrew.lock...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, August 05, 2011 7:36 PM To: Rau, Greg Subject: Re: [geo] Major BECCS study Please can you add text to your posts in future? Offline readers can't view links, and they are also more likely to be caught in spam filters Thanks A On 5 Aug

RE: [geo] Important paper on potential CDR / SRM interactions

2011-08-08 Thread Rau, Greg
With all due respect to Martin, I'm very sceptical the iron fueled marine biology was a major player in G-I air CO2 fluctuations, but at $32/reprint, can anyone freely supply me with the evidence? Thanks, Greg From: geoengineering@googlegroups.com

[geo] Polar Ice: Death throes?

2011-08-27 Thread RAU greg
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/08/25/polar-sea-ice-may-expand_n_935279.html?view=printcomm_ref=false Polar Sea Ice May Expand Before It Disappears Posted: 8/25/11 05:44 PM ET React Arctic sea ice is melting, but don't say goodbye just yet. A new study reveals that it may temporarily stop

[geo] Deep Heat

2011-09-20 Thread Rau, Greg
Deep Oceans May Mask Global Warming for Years at a Time Earth's deep oceans may absorb enough heat at times to flatten the rate of global warming for periods of as long as a decade--even in the midst of longer-term warming. This according to a new analysis led by scientists at the National

[geo] abiotic air capture test

2011-09-21 Thread Rau, Greg
http://www.eenews.net/climatewire/print/2011/09/21/10 GEOENGINEERING: Testing begins on device that captures CO2 from the air Published: Wednesday, September 21, 2011 A machine designed to suck carbon dioxide out of the air has taken shape on the University of Calgary campus in Alberta. The

Re: [geo] Re: Monbiot Claims SAI already tested ... with catastrophic results

2011-09-23 Thread Rau, Greg
Speaking of mineral carbonation, check out: http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10./j.1530-9290.2011.00368.x/abstract ;jsessionid=15DD453CB61D6B1B218D916F13507A2E.d01t01 -Greg On 9/23/11 4:40 AM, Oliver Tickell oliver.tick...@kyoto2.org wrote: Monbiot's real mistake here is to swallow the

[geo] New green, abiotic CO2 capture

2011-09-25 Thread Rau, Greg
Strong and Reversible Binding of Carbon Dioxide in a Green Metal-Organic Framework http://pubs.acs.org/doi/abs/10.1021/ja206525x The efficient capture and storage of gaseous CO2 is a pressing environmental problem. Although porous metal-organic frameworks (MOFs) have been shown to be very

Re: [geo] Re: Monbiot Claims SAI already tested ... with catastrophic results

2011-09-26 Thread Rau, Greg
systems of worms and higher animals, etc, it's a great deal faster - the biospheric enhancement factor speeds it up by several orders of magnitude. Oliver. On Sep 26, 4:09 pm, Rau, Greg r...@llnl.gov wrote: And to round out the options, let¹s not forget Harvey¹s limestone-rain-in-the-ocean

[geo] GE: Hand-wringing down under

2011-09-26 Thread Rau, Greg
http://www.canberratimes.com.au/news/local/news/general/engineering-the-eart h-forums-big-ideas/2303296.aspx?storypage=0 Engineering the Earth: forum's big ideas BY BREANNA TUCKER 26 Sep, 2011 12:00 AM Shading the Earth under a giant umbrella, painting roofs white and simulating volcanic

[geo] GW: A retrospective

2011-09-27 Thread Rau, Greg
Even Wally Broecker's jest — that deniers could blame God — may not be an option for long. Last May the Vatican's Pontifical Academy of Sciences, arm of an institution that once persecuted Galileo for his scientific findings, pronounced on manmade global warming: It's happening. Said the pope's

RE: [geo] Re: Monbiot Claims SAI already tested ... with catastrophic results

2011-09-27 Thread Rau, Greg
seawaters may in fact take away a significant portion of phosphorus through adsorption, therefore reduce the availability of a critical nutrient for surface ocean primary production. David. On Sep 26, 10:49 am, Rau, Greg r...@llnl.gov wrote: There is a delay if air capture is the objective

[geo] Caldeira, Socolow, et al. weigh in

2011-09-27 Thread Rau, Greg
http://dotearth.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/09/27/reactions-to-a-new-plan-for-co2-progress/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups geoengineering group. To post to this group, send email to geoengineering@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send

RE: [geo] Re: Monbiot Claims SAI already tested ... with catastrophic results

2011-09-28 Thread Rau, Greg
Cosmochimica Acta Vol. 50, pp. 2255-2265. Cheers, David. On Sep 27, 1:00 pm, Rau, Greg r...@llnl.gov wrote: Thanks David. I defer to Harvey's paper as to the particle size and rain rate needed to effect limestone dissolution at depth. Slow kinetics can always be countered by increased particle

Re: [geo] Re: Monbiot Claims SAI already tested ... with catastrophic results

2011-09-29 Thread Rau, Greg
Cosmochimica Acta 40, 191­202. Plummer, L.N., Wigley, T.M.L. and Parkhurst, D.L., 1978: The kinetics of calcite dissolution in CO2-water systems at 5­60°C and 0.0­1.0 atm CO2. American Journal of Science 278, 179­216. Tom. On 9/28/2011 1:44 PM, Rau, Greg wrote

[geo] Speaking of air capture

2011-09-29 Thread Rau, Greg
Carbon cycle: A dent in carbon's gold standard Matthias Cuntz Nature 477, 547–548 (29 September 2011) doi:10.1038/477547a Published online 28 September 2011 The global uptake of carbon by land plants may be greater than previously thought, according to observations based on the enigmatic Keeling

Re: [geo] Re: Monbiot Claims SAI already tested ... with catastrophic results

2011-09-29 Thread Rau, Greg
~ 0) is much faster than in seawater (pH 7.6, ionic strength ~ 0.7) and natural CO2 exchange (or flux) between soil and atmosphere is on the same order as that between ocean and atmosphere? Just a thought. David. On Sep 29, 9:12 am, Rau, Greg r...@llnl.gov wrote: Thanks, Tom. I think

RE: [geo] Re: Monbiot Claims SAI already tested ... with catastrophic results

2011-09-30 Thread Rau, Greg
to keep the soil PCO2 about the same? The climate/soilPCO2 relationship in the above paper suggests that this is what will happen. So the net effect is probably small. Tom. + On 9/29/2011 5:14 PM, Rau, Greg wrote: There's a large literature on and practice of crop soil

Re: [geo] BPC Task Force on Climate Remediation Research - Webcast

2011-10-04 Thread Rau, Greg
Once at the website I get a server not found message? I assume that's 10AM EDT. - Greg On 10/4/11 6:36 AM, Jane Flegal fleg...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.bipartisanpolicy.org/news/multimedia/2011/09/29/geoengineering-clim ate-remediation kWEBCAST: Geoengineering: Research on Climate

[geo] UK Guardian blogger weighs in

2011-10-06 Thread Rau, Greg
http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/blog/2011/oct/06/us-push-geoengineering/print Big names behind US push for geoengineering Posted by John Vidal Thursday 6 October 2011 07.04 EDT A coalition representing the most powerful academic, military, scientific and corporate interests has set its

RE: [geo] Re: Arctic methane

2011-10-08 Thread Rau, Greg
There was a large session on methane at the last Goldschmidt Conf this Aug. http://www.goldschmidt2011.org/program/programView?period=17cpdf=1 numerous methane papers in other sessions can be found by searching methane at: http://www.goldschmidt2011.org/abstracts/abstractSearch e.g.,

[geo] Biochar Nature paper

2011-10-12 Thread Rau, Greg
http://www.nature.com/ncomms/journal/v1/n5/full/ncomms1053.html?WT.ec_id=EXTERNALWT.mc_id=NC1108CE061 Production of biochar (the carbon (C)-rich solid formed by pyrolysis of biomass) and its storage in soils have been suggested as a means of abating climate change by sequestering carbon, while

[geo] Long interview

2011-10-12 Thread Rau, Greg
Engineering the climate is last and scariest option, says US scientist The lack of international action on cutting emissions highlights need to research geoengineering further, says Jane C S Long * Yale Environment 360http://www.e360.yale.edu/, part of the Guardian Environment

[geo] FW: US GEOTRACES Arctic planning and information events

2011-10-19 Thread Rau, Greg
From: ocb-all-boun...@whoi.edu [ocb-all-boun...@whoi.edu] On Behalf Of Bob Anderson [b...@ldeo.columbia.edu] Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 8:16 AM To: ocb-...@whoi.edu Subject: [Ocb-all] US GEOTRACES Arctic planning and information events Dear

[geo] historical climate vs human crises

2011-10-20 Thread Rau, Greg
http://www.pnas.org/content/108/42/17296.full Abstract Recent studies have shown strong temporal correlations between past climate changes and societal crises. However, the specific causal mechanisms underlying this relation have not been addressed. We explored quantitative responses of 14

RE: [geo] Recommended by etc

2011-10-21 Thread Rau, Greg
Another reason why we need to enhance natural CO2 conversion to ocean alkalinity (it's next natural resting place anyway), rather than expensively concentrate and riskily store molecular CO2. -G From: geoengineering@googlegroups.com

[geo] GW: Just in case there was any credible doubt

2011-10-21 Thread Rau, Greg
Anthony Watts, a former TV meteorologist who runs the blog Watts Up With That? and who had initially consulted with Muller on the Berkeley effort, took the unusual step of submitting a letter decrying its findings to lawmakers before the House hearing where Muller spoke had ended (ClimateWire,

Re: [geo] Public understanding of solar radiation

2011-10-25 Thread Rau, Greg
More reporting below: PUBLIC OPINION: Survey finds widespread support for geoengineering research Julia Pyper, EE reporter Published: Tuesday, October 25, 2011 A new study finds that the majority of people in America, Canada and Britain approve of more research in the nascent field of climate

Re: [geo] GW: Just in case there was any credible doubt

2011-10-25 Thread Rau, Greg
The confession (warning, not peer reviewed ;-) -G The Case Against Global-Warming Skepticism; There were good reasons for doubt, until now. Richard A. Muller. Wall Street Journal (Online). New York, N.Y.:Oct 21, 2011. Are you a global warming skeptic? There are plenty of good reasons why

[geo] Speaking of aerosols...

2011-10-25 Thread Rau, Greg
Anyone thought of using the aerosol data described below for extrapolating the effects of intentional aerosol loading? -Greg CLIMATE: Provoked scientists try to explain lag in global warming Paul Voosen, EE reporter Published: Tuesday, October 25, 2011 MAUNA LOA OBSERVATORY, Hawaii -- At

RE: [geo] White roof snag

2011-10-28 Thread Rau, Greg
A worldwide conversion to white roofs, they found, could actually warm the Earth slightly due a complex domino effect. Although white surfaces are cooler, the increased sunlight they reflect back into the atmosphere by can increase absorption of light by dark pollutants such as black carbon,

[geo] GE: Bad medicine?

2011-11-01 Thread Rau, Greg
“Who will decide there is a need, that climate engineering is an “appropriate medicine”? The conditions for making such a technological wager legitimate, democratic, and equitable must be explicit. For we are naive to assume the decision to administer a medicine by a physician is based on

RE: [geo] Re: White roof snag

2011-11-04 Thread Rau, Greg
Chris, Re my original snow question, you say: It is not a corallary to the Jacobson result that putting snow beneath dark aerosols will warm climate. Snow, like roofs, is bright, so it is understandable why one might think this. However snow, unlike roofs, melts when you warm the overlying

[geo] Those Arctic micro-geoengineers

2011-11-07 Thread Rau, Greg
Thawing microbes could control the climate As the Arctic permafrost melts over the coming decades, long-frozen microorganisms will thaw out and start feasting on the soil. The first have already begun to wake up – and early signs are that they will have a major impact on how Earth's climate

[geo] Advice to GE decision makers: More BAU?

2011-11-10 Thread Rau, Greg
“It [the report*] recommends that policymakers consider geoengineering as a third strategy, to use only if clearly needed. Likewise, governments should not fund geoengineering research at the expense of research and development of energy efficiency measures, carbon-free energy sources, climate

[geo] Biochar Review

2011-11-14 Thread Rau, Greg
Technical, Economical, and Climate-Related Aspects of Biochar Production Technologies: A Literature Review Sebastian Meyer*http://pubs.acs.org/doi/full/10.1021/es201792c#cor1†, Bruno Glaser‡, and Peter Quicker§ Bioenergy Unit, Ecofys, 81243 München, Germany Soil Biogeochemistry,

[geo] FW: Open for comment: U.S. Global Change Research Program strategic plan

2011-11-15 Thread Rau, Greg
In case you missed this, draft strategic plan for climate measurement and prediction for informing decision makers is announced below. Since the document does bring up climate science as servicing adaptation and mitigation, e.g.*, might it be appropriate to insert language on GE and how

[geo] Reminder

2011-11-22 Thread Rau, Greg
Dear NACP investigators' community: I strongly encourage you to comment on the draft US Global Change Research Program Strategic Plan for 2012-2021. The public comment period ends on Tuesday, 29 November, 2011. This document is intended to guided federal research in global change for the

[geo] That darn permafrost methane

2011-12-02 Thread Rau, Greg
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2011/11/30215740.htm#.TthZQQuuESg.email ScienceDaily (Nov. 30, 2011) — As global temperatures continue to rise at an accelerated rate due to deforestation and the burning of fossil fuels, natural stores of carbon in the Arctic are cause for serious

[geo] GE: Love/hate (cont.)

2011-12-02 Thread RAU greg
The final report grew out of three days of talks in a quiet country retreat last March, the climax of a yearlong dialogue spanning experts in 22 countries. Quiet indeed. - Greg U.N. Climate Conference: Geoengineering Could Save Earth -- Or Destroy It ARTHUR MAX 12/ 2/11 12:29 PM ET

[geo] Durban: Same ineffective solutions offered despite record CO2?

2011-12-03 Thread Rau, Greg
Only by reducing our CO2 emissions and enhancing the protection of oceans to strengthen their ability to recover, can we effectively address this issue. [from article pasted below] Haven't these guys heard of CDR, and no, there will be zero ability for many marine species to recover once fatal

[geo] Is it time yet to seriously evaluate post-emissions mitigation?

2011-12-17 Thread Rau, Greg
NYTimes editorial December 16, 2011 Beyond Durban Startling new evidence that global carbon dioxide emissions are rising faster than ever did little to increase the urgency of the climate talks in Durban, South Africa, which concluded earlier this week. Once again, the world’s negotiators

[geo] Another Stern warning

2011-12-19 Thread Rau, Greg
A more stringent target, say consistent with an 80 per cent chance of meeting the 2 degree goal, would have an even smaller budget of 500-600bn tonnes [cumulative CO2 emitted globally, 2010 – 2050] …the proven reserves of the world’s top 100 listed coal companies and top 100 listed oil and gas

[geo] Carbon Time Bomb in the Arctic

2011-12-20 Thread Rau, Greg
Joe Romm weighs in on Arctic carbon: http://thinkprogress.org/romm/2011/12/19/392242/carbon-time-bomb-in-arctic-new-york-times-print-edition-gets-the-story-right/ Sent from my iPad -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups geoengineering group. To post to

[geo] More from PNAS

2011-12-23 Thread Rau, Greg
This came to my attention via Adam Cherson. More from our esteemed colleagues at the PNAS: http://www.pnas.org/content/108/51/20277 Unfortunately, subscription required. Can anyone out there facilitate distribution of the whole story (link or pdf) to the masses? Thanks, happy holidays, and

[geo] Further thoughts on Arctic methane

2011-12-30 Thread Rau, Greg
http://www.globalwarming.org/2011/12/29/should-we-fear-the-methane-time-bomb/ Should We Fear the Methane Time Bomb? by MARLO LEWIS on DECEMBER 29, 2011 in BLOG, FEATURES A favorite doomsday scenario of the anti-carbon crusade hypothesizes that global warming, by melting frozen Arctic soils on

[geo] Analysts slash CO2 price forecasts

2011-12-30 Thread Rau, Greg
I'm no economist, but isn't this an amazing market disconnect? The need for CO2 mitigation highest ever, the market value of mitigation plummets. So much for market and policy driven CO2 response. Lack of effective PR, lobbying, and outreach I think is to blame, an no, this is not the primary

Re: [geo] Re: Further thoughts on Arctic methane

2012-01-06 Thread RAU greg
Also, I haven't read the literature, but has anyone actually measured the bubbles to show that it's methane and not H2S, NxOy, CO2, etc. Granted the former are probably not going to be important on land/freshwater. The images of the undersea plumes are impressive. Would be really interesting

[geo] FW: Goldschmidt Session 12h. Frontiers in methane biogeochemistry

2012-01-09 Thread Rau, Greg
Dear Friends and Colleagues, We would cordially like to draw your attention to the following Goldschmidt session: Session 12h. Frontiers in methane biogeochemistry Methane is a potent greenhouse gas which constitutes an integral part of the global carbon cycle. Although methane has been

FW: [geo] FW: Goldschmidt Session 12h. Frontiers in methane biogeochemistry

2012-01-09 Thread Rau, Greg
Link: http://www.goldschmidt2012.org/ Under Program go to Themes then to Theme 12h -G On 1/9/12 9:23 AM, Rau, Greg r...@llnl.gov wrote: Dear Friends and Colleagues, We would cordially like to draw your attention to the following Goldschmidt session: Session 12h. Frontiers in methane

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