UI again (Re: Menus, shortcuts, and internationalization)

2000-12-11 Thread Nick Lamb
On Tue, Dec 12, 2000 at 11:39:43AM +0900, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > There is no way to resolve duplicates - and what does it help if the > > shortcut-key is the third letter of the Word you want to select? You > > want to accelerate your work - and decyphering from some accidentally > > underl

Re: [miles] timecop's menu issue

2000-12-11 Thread timecop
On Mon, 11 Dec 100, Miles O'Neal wrote: > A lot of people like them. You may not, but that doesn't > make them useless. They're there because people *wanted* them. > (In fact, they're handled in the Gtk, because people wanted > them. Have you looked at the Gtk customization, to see > whether th

Re: [mitch n] Tab order, OK/Cancel/Esc/Enter

2000-12-11 Thread timecop
comment 1 > (Which also means we should probably put "OK" rightmost in all dialogs > to match the order given in the "ESC/Enter" scheme) comment 2 > I vastly prefer the "positive choice to the left" rule - of dialog > button ordering, but can't seem to find any backing material right > now... and

Menus, shortcuts, and internationalization

2000-12-11 Thread timecop
Well, the great piece of free software called "Netscape" doesn't allow me to cut & paste today, so I am going to have to retype a lot of stuff. > There is no way to resolve duplicates - and what does it help if the > shortcut-key is the third letter of the Word you want to select? You > want to a

gimp 1.1.30 & gettext on non-Linux platforms

2000-12-11 Thread Tim Mooney
I just submitted a (long-ish) bug report explaining a long-standing gettext-related problem, but bugs.gnome.org yacked it back at me, so here it is. The problem has been around forever, but I just noticed it again because I tried (for the first time in a long time) to configure gimp without usin

Re: new plugin

2000-12-11 Thread Kevin Cozens
david rohde wrote: > I am currently writing a new plugin, which I hope if there is intrest in it > could be included in to standard gimp distributions. I understand that the > gimp is frozen at the moment, but if anyone could tell me the process > required for a new plugin to be considered for th

Re: Fw: timecop's menu issue

2000-12-11 Thread Lourens Veen
Okay everyone, enough's enough. I think he/she got the message, now let's move on to the issues and forget about the language. There are better ways to spend your time. Lourens Andrew J Fortune wrote: > > Amen to everything you have said, Miles. > Here in Australia, the term we use (equivalent

Fw: timecop's menu issue

2000-12-11 Thread Andrew J Fortune
Amen to everything you have said, Miles. Here in Australia, the term we use (equivalent to jackass) is "dropkick" . i.e. timecop is a real dropkick !! - Original Message - From: "Miles O'Neal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, December

Re: How much longer do I have to put up with this... (michael n)

2000-12-11 Thread Michael Natterer
Emil Brink <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On 11 Dec 2000, Michael Natterer wrote: > > (Apologies if this reply is incorrectly addressed -- I still haven't > quite figured out how to properly reply to list mails) > > [...] > > Many of your points already _are_ on bugs.gnome.org's wishlist. Especi

Re: timecop's menu issue

2000-12-11 Thread Chris Brown
On Mon, 11 Dec 100, Miles O'Neal wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] said... > |There is a difference between assigning a > |shortcut key to activate a menu item when the menu is not open, and a > |key to operate the menu by using the keyboard. I know the former is > |easily customizable by pressing the

timecop's menu issue

2000-12-11 Thread Miles O'Neal
[EMAIL PROTECTED] said... |Actually, no. Since you were more concerned with professionalism of my |email rather than actually reading it, you missed the part where I talked |about this exact problem. No, the problem had more to do with whether it was worth the effort to read a long, not so well

sliding off-topic Re: [Sven Neumann] Assistance with GUI design

2000-12-11 Thread Nick Lamb
On Mon, Dec 11, 2000 at 10:37:11PM +0900, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On the side note, one thing that could use serious serious improvement is > the preferences dialog. I think, the "Tree" structure of organizing > preferences is truly confusing. Reserve tree structures for directory > lists and

Re: How much longer do I have to put up with this... (miles o'neal)

2000-12-11 Thread Miles O'Neal
[EMAIL PROTECTED] said... |So, my friends, don't get your panties in a bunch because a perfectly |valid email includes the word "shit" in it's title. The only reason I got |this kind of response is either because a) you know about all of these |problems and furious that you can't fix them due to

Re: [Sven Neumann] Assistance with GUI design

2000-12-11 Thread Sven Neumann
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > I am rather shocked. For someone who doesn't really know me, that's some > pretty bold statements. But then again, I've come to expect that from > you, dear Sven, so I don't really take it too seriously. You are still > upset from when I called you an asshole about

Re: Fw: Bug#34849: Confirmation (initial_sub_region:: error :: src->w * (src->bytes + 1) > 521)

2000-12-11 Thread Austin Donnelly
On Monday, 11 Dec 2000, Paul E.C. Melis wrote: > Hi, I wrote about the "initial_sub_region:: error :: src->w * (src->bytes + > 1) > 521" bug/message to this list some time ago, and now it appears > somebody has submitted a bug report to the bug list about it (which I should > have done myself in

Re: [Lourens Veen] Gimp as a marital aid

2000-12-11 Thread Lourens Veen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > I bet that gave you a warm and fuzzy feeling to write a response like > that. If instead you (or others) focused on the issues rather than "bad > language" things would have been a lot better. If you hadn't put them under a pile of fucks and shits then maybe I would

Re: Some Compile Error 1.1.30

2000-12-11 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, Frank Werner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > i have problems to compile gimp-1.1.30. > I have installed glib-1.3.2 and gtk+-1.3.2. > > Can someone tell me, how can I solve this problem? The INSTALL file clearly states that gimp-1.1.x will not compile with the developers versions of glib and

Re: new plugin

2000-12-11 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, david rohde <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I am currently writing a new plugin, which I hope if there is intrest in it > could be included in to standard gimp distributions. I understand that the > gimp is frozen at the moment, but if anyone could tell me the process > required for a new plu

Fw: Bug#34849: Confirmation (initial_sub_region:: error :: src->w * (src->bytes + 1) > 521)

2000-12-11 Thread Paul E.C. Melis
Hi, I wrote about the "initial_sub_region:: error :: src->w * (src->bytes + 1) > 521" bug/message to this list some time ago, and now it appears somebody has submitted a bug report to the bug list about it (which I should have done myself in the first place, I guess). That somebody obviously enter

Re: How much longer do I have to put up with this... (michael n)

2000-12-11 Thread Emil Brink
On 11 Dec 2000, Michael Natterer wrote: (Apologies if this reply is incorrectly addressed -- I still haven't quite figured out how to properly reply to list mails) [...] > Many of your points already _are_ on bugs.gnome.org's wishlist. Especially > the "Enter == OK", "Esc == Cancel" stuff is s

How to unsubscribe (temporarily)

2000-12-11 Thread Rob Fletcher
Hi, I need to unsubscribe for a mo' so my inbox does not overfill during the Xmas vacation. What is the mechanism please, oh gurus of the gimpdev list... TIA, Rob.

Re: Assistance with GUI design

2000-12-11 Thread David Necas
On Mon, 11 Dec 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On the side note, one thing that could use serious serious improvement is > the preferences dialog. I think, the "Tree" structure of organizing > preferences is truly confusing. The tree structure is nice and transparent. Tree structure is natural

Re: How much longer do I have to put up with this... (michael n)

2000-12-11 Thread Michael Natterer
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On 11 Dec 2000, Michael Natterer wrote: > > > Hi, > > Ask politely next time. > > Excuse me sir for not being so polite. You should read my previous email > where you will find most of the same issues repeated without using foul > language that you are so afraid

Re: [gimp-devel] Re: [lasm] Using the menu + "safe pointer"

2000-12-11 Thread Simon Budig
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > I could be wrong and this key could be "customizable" too, but in my > experience, hitting the "r" key while inside an image changes your current > tool to "rectangular select" which I find to be the least "damaging" if you > accidentally click somewh

Re: [lasm] Using the menu + "safe pointer"

2000-12-11 Thread Paul E.C. Melis
> Most of the toolbox actions fortunately DO have > shortcut keys. That's one useful feature that I use all the time. On the > downside though, I am not sure if those are documented anywhere. I haven't > seen the gimp-cheat-sheet postscript recently, since it hasn't been updated > from back in '

Re: How much longer do I have to put up with this... (miles o'neal)

2000-12-11 Thread Rebecca J. Walter
You received the respose you received because the developers of the GIMP work their butts off to produce a good, FREE program in their own time and without compensation. You then call them a bunch of idiots and curse at them without offering much in the way of constructive criticism. If you have

Re: [Sven Neumann] Assistance with GUI design

2000-12-11 Thread timecop
I am rather shocked. For someone who doesn't really know me, that's some pretty bold statements. But then again, I've come to expect that from you, dear Sven, so I don't really take it too seriously. You are still upset from when I called you an asshole about a year ago. :) > I'm pretty sure th

Re: [Lourens Veen] Gimp as a marital aid

2000-12-11 Thread timecop
I bet that gave you a warm and fuzzy feeling to write a response like that. If instead you (or others) focused on the issues rather than "bad language" things would have been a lot better. This is almost same as flaming a very reasonable email because of "bad spelling". Instead, you should have

Re: [Nem W Schlecht] ESC / Enter functionality

2000-12-11 Thread timecop
> Along the same lines, "Enter" should always activate the "Okay", unless a > selection menu (like the font selection menu in the Dynamic Text plugin) > is currently active. This bugs me quite a bit, as well as a lack of the > "Esc" functionality described above. It "mostly" works. However it do

Re: [lasm] Using the menu + "safe pointer"

2000-12-11 Thread timecop
> - one or more mouse clicks to make sure the current > mouse pointer is safe, i.e. it is not the left over fill bucket > pointer that I have just used a few seconds ago; if it is I need a > few more mouse clicks to find the main toolbox, then > click on some safe pointer such as box selection. I

Re: How much longer do I have to put up with this... (miles o'neal)

2000-12-11 Thread Robert L Krawitz
Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2000 21:34:12 +0900 (JST) From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> You can ignore "bad language" in the first one, because you can still perfectly understand the issues raised there. If you think they are issues in the first place. Apparently, some people don't. You could hav

Re: How much longer do I have to put up with this... (michael n)

2000-12-11 Thread timecop
On 11 Dec 2000, Michael Natterer wrote: > Hi, > Ask politely next time. Excuse me sir for not being so polite. You should read my previous email where you will find most of the same issues repeated without using foul language that you are so afraid of seeing. However, if at all possible, may I

Re: How much longer do I have to put up with this... (miles o'neal)

2000-12-11 Thread timecop
On Sun, 10 Dec 100, Miles O'Neal wrote: >>* I cannot use 90% of GIMP's features from keyboard. Hardly any of the >> menus have keyboard shortcuts. > > You can add all the menu shortcuts you want. They're completely > customizable. Given the number and potential mixes of plugins, this > is a re

Re: Some Compile Error 1.1.30

2000-12-11 Thread Lourens Veen
Additional info: I got the same error in configure, however make worked fine on my system (glib 1.2.8 and gtk 1.2.8) and I'm running 1.1.30 without any problems now. Lourens Frank Werner wrote: > > Hi there, > > i have problems to compile gimp-1.1.30. > > First some error occurs while configu

Some Compile Error 1.1.30

2000-12-11 Thread Frank Werner
Hi there, i have problems to compile gimp-1.1.30. First some error occurs while configuring the make script: --- ... creating devel-docs/pdb/Makefile sed: can't read ./devel-docs/pdb/Makefile.in: No such file or directory ... Checking if your kit is complete... Warning: the following files are m

Re: How much longer do I have to put up with this shit? (This is NOT atroll)

2000-12-11 Thread Andrew J Fortune
LOL. - Original Message - From: "Lourens Veen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, December 11, 2000 6:03 PM Subject: Re: How much longer do I have to put up with this shit? (This is NOT atroll) > Hmm, never thought about gimp as a marital aid. Don't really feel >