Re: [Gimp-developer] Re: Gimp 1.3.22

2003-11-25 Thread Tor Lillqvist
Tor Lillqvist writes: > Then the "&build" should be removed from gimp's line in > CVSROOT/modules . Will this have some odd consequences, or can it be > done right away? Anyone object? It might be that people will have to re-get gimp from CVS if "&build" is removed from gimp's line in CVSROOT/m

Re: [Gimp-developer] What makes the GIMP toolbox special?

2003-11-25 Thread Raphaël Quinet
On 24 Nov 2003 20:17:52 +0100, Sven Neumann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Raphaël Quinet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > I am questioning this because I think that the fact that the toolbox > > is "special" is an artificial limitation that should go away in a > > future release in order to make the

Re: [Gimp-developer] What makes the GIMP toolbox special?

2003-11-25 Thread Nick Lamb
On Mon, Nov 24, 2003 at 07:25:01PM +0100, Raphaël Quinet wrote: > I am questioning this because I think that the fact that the toolbox > is "special" is an artificial limitation that should go away in a > future release in order to make the user interface more consistent and > easier to use. Artif

[Gimp-developer] Default values for window management settings

2003-11-25 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, as discussed in bug #115092, we have recently added some gimprc settings that allow to tune how GIMP interacts with the window manager. Here's what the gimprc manpage says about the new settings: (toolbox‐window‐type normal)

Re: [Gimp-developer] What makes the GIMP toolbox special?

2003-11-25 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, RaphaÃl Quinet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > In most cases, a new user will have two GIMP windows that have more > or less the same size: in the current docs, one of them is refered > to as "the toolbox" and the other one is just a "dock". Both of > them have roughly the same importance: the

Re: [Gimp-developer] Default values for window management settings

2003-11-25 Thread Tino Schwarze
On Tue, Nov 25, 2003 at 01:33:15PM +0100, Sven Neumann wrote: > The question I'd like to bring up is what should be the default values > for these. After quite some discussions I now propose the following: > > (toolbox¡¾window¡¾type normal) > (dock¡¾window¡¾type normal) > (activate¡¾on¡¾focus

[Gimp-developer] bug triage for 2.0

2003-11-25 Thread David Neary
Hi all, As those of you who follow bugzilla may have noticed, I have started attacking bugs on the 2.0 milestone. It is now clear that not all of these will be fixed before 2.0. We will need to re-distribute the ones that will not be fixed among other milestones, or close them. As rough guideline

Re: [Gimp-developer] Default values for window management settings

2003-11-25 Thread David Neary
Hi, Sven Neumann wrote: > The question I'd like to bring up is what should be the default values > for these. After quite some discussions I now propose the following: > > (toolbox??window??type normal) > (dock??window??type normal) > (activate??on??focus yes) I agree wholehearedly. Cheers,

[Gimp-developer] GIMP at GUADEC

2003-11-25 Thread David Neary
Hi all, Following up from the mail last week discussing the date and location of GIMPCon, here's the state of play on the various possibilities discussed. 1) GUADEC: The GNOME crowd are delighted to have us, the guadec planning committee are very eager, and are now planning a graphics/multimedia

Re: [Gimp-developer] Default values for window management settings

2003-11-25 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tino Schwarze) writes: > However, it would be great, if the window manager's focus policy > could be determined and the default changed acccordingly (since > activate-on-focus will complicate things with a point-to-focus > policy) Sure, but as far as I know there is no wel

Re: [Gimp-developer] Default values for window management settings

2003-11-25 Thread Simon Budig
Sven Neumann ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > The question I'd like to bring up is what should be the default values > for these. After quite some discussions I now propose the following: > [...] > (activate-on-focus yes) > [...] > Switching to activate-on-focus as the default setting seems to make

Re: [Gimp-developer] Default values for window management settings

2003-11-25 Thread Joao S. O. Bueno
On Tuesday 25 November 2003 11:42, Tino Schwarze wrote: > > Although I have a strong opinion against click-to-focus, it's > probably the most widely used default and "expert users" are used > to changing this setting anyway, so the default makes sense. > > However, it would be great, if the windo

Re: [Gimp-developer] Default values for window management settings

2003-11-25 Thread Henrik Brix Andersen
On Tue, 2003-11-25 at 15:50, Joao S. O. Bueno wrote: > I was making a title in Gimp 1.3.23, and was using 140pt font. > Suddenly, by accident I flipped the mouse wheel over the "unit" > listbox ..it changed from PT to IN hell came over on my desktop. > before I could do much, the keyboard fro

Re: [Gimp-developer] Default values for window management settings

2003-11-25 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, "Joao S. O. Bueno" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I had an Horrible Experience (tm) regarding this yesterday. > > I was making a title in Gimp 1.3.23, and was using 140pt font. > Suddenly, by accident I flipped the mouse wheel over the "unit" > listbox ..it changed from PT to IN hell ca

Re: [Gimp-developer] Default values for window management settings

2003-11-25 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, Henrik Brix Andersen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Tue, 2003-11-25 at 15:50, Joao S. O. Bueno wrote: > > I was making a title in Gimp 1.3.23, and was using 140pt font. > > Suddenly, by accident I flipped the mouse wheel over the "unit" > > listbox ..it changed from PT to IN hell came

[Gimp-developer] Re: Big fonts make X freeze. Bugs 85103, 118356. Was - Re: Default values for window management settings

2003-11-25 Thread Joao S. O. Bueno
> > I believe this is a known issue: > > http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=85103 > > No, that is the wrong bug number. The related bug is #118356 as > well as #122707. The bug you mentioned here doesn't affect GIMP-1.3 > at all and I just changed the milestone accordingly. > > > Sven Howev

[Gimp-developer] Re: Big fonts make X freeze. Bugs 85103, 118356. Was - Re: Default values for window management settings

2003-11-25 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, "Joao S. O. Bueno" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > However, you've read what I wrote. What I got was X freezing which > seemed quite related to what is listed under 85103. Believe me, X11 didn't freeze. What you observed most probably was GIMp dying while it has the pointer grabbed. This loo

Re: [Gimp-developer] GIMP at GUADEC

2003-11-25 Thread Raphaël Quinet
On Tue, 25 Nov 2003 15:20:49 +0100, David Neary <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > So - speak up. What do ye think? Are we going to GUADEC? Should I > continue exploring Lyon in case it doesn't work out? Are there > other possibilities? For those who do not have all the information about GUADEC 5 alread

Re: [Gimp-developer] GIMP at GUADEC

2003-11-25 Thread Daniel Rogers
David Neary wrote: Hi all, Following up from the mail last week discussing the date and location of GIMPCon, here's the state of play on the various possibilities discussed. 1) GUADEC: The GNOME crowd are delighted to have us, the guadec planning committee are very eager, and are now planning a gr

Re: [Gimp-developer] What makes the GIMP toolbox special?

2003-11-25 Thread Raphaël Quinet
On 25 Nov 2003 14:07:12 +0100, Sven Neumann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Raphaël Quinet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > For what reason do we want to call one of them "the toolbox" and treat > > it in a special way in the code and in the docs? Why couldn't we call > > any of the top-level control

Re: [Gimp-developer] gimp-help-2 status and suggestions

2003-11-25 Thread Roman Joost
So, one step ahead to finish the gimp-help-2 move into the new source structure, which finishes the source tree move and add the frensh translation and content from Julien and Raymond. Before i type in my last "cvs commit" i want to verify one exception of my proposal: the image directory. I want

Re: [Gimp-developer] Default values for window management settings

2003-11-25 Thread Raphaël Quinet
On Tue, 25 Nov 2003 15:31:25 +0100, Simon Budig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Sven Neumann ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > Switching to activate-on-focus as the default setting seems to make > > sense given that most desktops seem to be using "click-to-focus" by > > default these days. We used to set

[Gimp-developer] Re: GIMP at GUADEC

2003-11-25 Thread David Odin
On Tue, Nov 25, 2003 at 03:20:49PM +0100, David Neary wrote: > Hi all, > > Following up from the mail last week discussing the date and > location of GIMPCon, here's the state of play on the various > possibilities discussed. > I will only respond about the "Lyon" possibility: > snip. > > 2) L

Re: [Gimp-developer] What makes the GIMP toolbox special?

2003-11-25 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, RaphaÃl Quinet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I was talking about the list or grid of tools (the "Tools" > dockable), not the current tool buttons. Currently, we have two > ways to display the tool icons: either as buttons (as shown in the > current toolbox), or as a dockable list or grid of

Re: [Gimp-developer] Re: GIMP at GUADEC

2003-11-25 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, David Odin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > The rent for the rooms and the lunch at 12:00 might be paid by some > presentations made by one of us to the CPE's students. That sounds more like breakfast to me ... Sven ___ Gimp-developer mailing list

Re: [Gimp-developer] Re: GIMP at GUADEC

2003-11-25 Thread David Odin
On Tue, Nov 25, 2003 at 09:18:11PM +0100, Sven Neumann wrote: > Hi, > > David Odin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > The rent for the rooms and the lunch at 12:00 might be paid by some > > presentations made by one of us to the CPE's students. > > That sounds more like breakfast to me ... >

Re: [Gimp-developer] GIMP at GUADEC

2003-11-25 Thread David Neary
Hi, Daniel Rogers wrote: > I like the GUADEC idea technically. From a personal, selfish, > un-gimp-like, I want to see the world point of view, London, Lyon, and > Dublin have been on my list of places to see for quite some time. However, > I think GAUDEC, especially since they are excited to

[Gimp-developer] Re: GIMP at GUADEC

2003-11-25 Thread David Neary
Hi David, David Odin wrote: > If the GIMPCon stand in Lyon, there will be at least some rooms, with > Internet access (ssh, web, mail, at least), via a switch/hub. Any laptop > with a dhcp config could then be connected. > > The rent for the rooms and the lunch at 12:00 might be paid by some

Re: [Gimp-developer] GIMP at GUADEC

2003-11-25 Thread Daniel Rogers
David Neary wrote: Hi, Daniel Rogers wrote: I like the GUADEC idea technically. From a personal, selfish, un-gimp-like, I want to see the world point of view, London, Lyon, and Dublin have been on my list of places to see for quite some time. However, I think GAUDEC, especially since they a

Re: [Gimp-developer] Re: Gimp 1.3.22

2003-11-25 Thread Malcolm Tredinnick
On Tue, 2003-11-25 at 17:22, Tor Lillqvist wrote: > Tor Lillqvist writes: > > Then the "&build" should be removed from gimp's line in > > CVSROOT/modules . Will this have some odd consequences, or can it be > > done right away? > > Anyone object? It might be that people will have to re-get gimp

Re: [Gimp-developer] GIMP at GUADEC

2003-11-25 Thread Daniel Rogers
Daniel Rogers wrote: (hopefully next year. All we really need is a sugar daddy, which are oh-so-easy to come by). This is sarcasm, btw. -- Dan ___ Gimp-developer mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-develo