Re: [Gimp-developer] Enhancement Proposal: Add a temporary magnifier

Sven Neumann wrote: > Wouldn't it be easier if you could quickly zoom in (and back out again > to the previous zoom level) without having to open a new view for this? > In the SVN version you can already revert to previous zoom level. What's > the point of doing this in a separate window? > Sorry

Re: [Gimp-developer] Enhancement Proposal: Add a temporary magnifier

I don't really see the value in having the loupe possess both the magnified view and the focus view. Several good points have been brought up The handle must be shorter and translucent (why not just eliminate the handle?) ... How will the tool behave at the window limits (with no handle, this

Re: [Gimp-developer] Enhancement Proposal: Add a temporary magnifier

Sven wrote: >> I am not sure if Sven wants another feature request in bugzilla. >> If so I will write it. > Yes sure. We have discussed the feature here and now we should make a > useful bug report from it. That will help to remember the outcome > of the > discussion and it might attract a devel

Re: [Gimp-developer] Enhancement Proposal: Add a temporary magnifier

I think that the user should be able to select between a 1:1 mouse resolution scale and one that matches the scaling of the loupe's zoom. This would be good to offer at least on any test version that is developed, until enough user feedback is obtained to eliminate one of the options. --- [EMAIL

Re: [Gimp-developer] Enhancement Proposal: Add a temporary magnifier

WARNING TO DIALUP USERS! The GIF file linked to in this post weighs in at 2.2Mb. Quoting peter sikking <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > "saul" on the irc made this film (thanks): > > > > I could imagine here some dust spotting going on, on a

Re: [Gimp-developer] Enhancement Proposal: Add a temporary magnifier

Hi, On Tue, 2007-03-20 at 18:01 +0100, peter sikking wrote: > I am not sure if Sven wants another feature request in bugzilla. > If so I will write it. Yes sure. We have discussed the feature here and now we should make a useful bug report from it. That will help to remember the outcome of the d

Re: [Gimp-developer] Enhancement Proposal: Add a temporary magnifier

Peter, I'm glad you've become the ambassador for this. Your description of a loupe is basically what I was proposing in my original bugzilla proposal #409802 ( http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=409802 ). Rather than add another proposal, why not just flesh out the details of your vision

Re: [Gimp-developer] Enhancement Proposal: Add a temporary magnifier

Chris, > First off, I want to apologize - it's not my intention to be > combative, and I can be a total ass sometimes. don't worry, I am also fired up about this one. here is why: people have talked to me a week or more ago on the irc along the line of: "what's the big deal, one way or another w

Re: [Gimp-developer] Enhancement Proposal: Add a temporary magnifier

On 3/19/07, Sven Neumann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > We aren't using cairo yet. But I don't see what you would want to use > gdk_draw_drawable() for. OK - I have more to learn! > app/dialogs/dialogs.c, IIRC Thanks. Chris ___ Gimp-developer mailing li

Re: [Gimp-developer] Enhancement Proposal: Add a temporary magnifier

Hi, On Mon, 2007-03-19 at 04:06 -0500, Chris Mohler wrote: > 1. gdk_draw_drawable - should this be used, or dropped in favor of > cairo/gnomecanvas/other? We aren't using cairo yet. But I don't see what you would want to use gdk_draw_drawable() for. > 2. adding a new widget was pretty straightf

Re: [Gimp-developer] Enhancement Proposal: Add a temporary magnifier

On 3/4/07, Sven Neumann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > But yes, the most obvious and by far the easiest solution is to add a > tracking view that users can add to their docks similar to the > Navigation dialog. I've filled out a feature request based on this approach. I've also taken initial steps

Re: [Gimp-developer] Enhancement Proposal: Add a temporary magnifier

First off, I want to apologize - it's not my intention to be combative, and I can be a total ass sometimes. Secondly, I wonder if we should make two feature requests: the first for a dockable magnifier with options, and the second for a key-triggered pop-up version of the same magnifier. Should t

Re: [Gimp-developer] Enhancement Proposal: Add a temporary magnifier

Sven wrote, > GIMP already has such a dialog among the dockables that the user > can add > to their docks. The easiest and the most consistent way for adding a > magnifier view is to add it as another dockable. easiest to implement, yes. > It should be pretty > much straight-forward to do that

Re: [Gimp-developer] Enhancement Proposal: Add a temporary magnifier

Hi, On Sun, 2007-03-04 at 15:01 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > It would seem to me that, depending upon how it were implemented, a > view window with tracking capabilities might be sufficient to meet the > needs of the user without having to resort to the implementation of a > new tool.

Re: [Gimp-developer] Enhancement Proposal: Add a temporary magnifier

On 3/4/07, Sven Neumann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > On Sun, 2007-03-04 at 12:53 -0600, Chris Mohler wrote: > > > [1] This seems like the best existing dialog to place this. It > > doesn't seem to warrant it's own dialog, unless we were to extend the > > funtionality into a new "info" dial

Re: [Gimp-developer] Enhancement Proposal: Add a temporary magnifier

Hi, On Sun, 2007-03-04 at 12:53 -0600, Chris Mohler wrote: > [1] This seems like the best existing dialog to place this. It > doesn't seem to warrant it's own dialog, unless we were to extend the > funtionality into a new "info" dialog similar to PS, in which the > color values under the cursor

Re: [Gimp-developer] Enhancement Proposal: Add a temporary magnifier

I was unable to locate any discussion covering a "tracking view window" and was hoping someone could either explain it or provide a link to an explanation. It would seem to me that, depending upon how it were implemented, a view window with tracking capabilities might be sufficient to meet t

Re: [Gimp-developer] Enhancement Proposal: Add a temporary magnifier

Here is the feature request (as I see it): distill away. Magnifier: (Needs a better name - spy glass, super loupe?) The maginfier provides the ability to see an "up close" view of the area immediately surrounding the cursor, in a manner that does

Re: [Gimp-developer] Enhancement Proposal: Add a temporary magnifier

Hi, I have done a small change to the "Revert Zoom" feature that was recently introduced (bug #338168). You can now zoom in a certain point of interest using either the mouse wheel or the zoom keyboard shortcuts, edit, and use Zoom->Revert (bound to the ` key by default) to return to the original

Re: [Gimp-developer] Enhancement Proposal: Add a temporary magnifier

Hi, On Sat, 2007-03-03 at 16:50 +, David Marrs wrote: > I really like the idea. It sounds like a shortcut for an operation I perform > all > the time: > > 1. Create a new view > 2. Zoom right in on a point I want to edit. > 3. Do operation > 4. Close view. Wouldn't it be easier if you coul

Re: [Gimp-developer] Enhancement Proposal: Add a temporary magnifier

On Saturday 03 March 2007 17:50, David Marrs wrote: > I really like the idea. It sounds like a shortcut for an operation I > perform all the time: > > 1. Create a new view > 2. Zoom right in on a point I want to edit. > 3. Do operation > 4. Close view. > > In fact, an option I can think of that wo

Re: [Gimp-developer] Enhancement Proposal: Add a temporary magnifier

I really like the idea. It sounds like a shortcut for an operation I perform all the time: 1. Create a new view 2. Zoom right in on a point I want to edit. 3. Do operation 4. Close view. In fact, an option I can think of that would be quite flexible would be to bind a keyboard shortcut (say

Re: [Gimp-developer] Enhancement Proposal: Add a temporary magnifier

Hi Gimpers, allow me to join the brainstorm. As the loupe tool seems to be most useful for making pixel-perfect selections while retaining a global view on the image, what if the selection tools provided that functionality? When creating or resizing selections, the loupe would show up after holdin

Re: [Gimp-developer] Enhancement Proposal: Add a temporary magnifier

Raphaël wrote: >> Let's look at the user requirements: for a _moment_ >> you want to see what you are _doing_ at high magnification, >> while working on a _macroscopic_ scale. > > I would like to know why you state that the user requirements > include showing for a _moment_ what you are doing at h

Re: [Gimp-developer] Enhancement Proposal: Add a temporary magnifier

On Sun, 25 Feb 2007 21:01:47 +0100, peter sikking <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Let's look at the user requirements: for a _moment_ > you want to see what you are _doing_ at high magnification, > while working on a _macroscopic_ scale. I would like to know why you state that the user requirements i

Re: [Gimp-developer] Enhancement Proposal: Add a temporary magnifier

Mark Lowry wrote: > Good point. A GIMP magnifier such as we are > discussing should magnify the actual image, not just > the desktop portrayal of the image. Yes of course. Sorry not to have explicitly written this. > If a second, stationary window is used rather than a > moving "lens", I would

Re: [Gimp-developer] Enhancement Proposal: Add a temporary magnifier

Hi, On Sat, 2007-02-24 at 13:29 -0800, Mark Lowry wrote: > If a second, stationary window is used rather than a > moving "lens", I would suggest that it should have its > own buttons for controling the magnification level. > Its desktop location should also be able to be > remembered upon exitin

Re: [Gimp-developer] Enhancement Proposal: Add a temporary magnifier

Good point. A GIMP magnifier such as we are discussing should magnify the actual image, not just the desktop portrayal of the image. If a second, stationary window is used rather than a moving "lens", I would suggest that it should have its own buttons for controling the magnification level. Its

Re: [Gimp-developer] Enhancement Proposal: Add a temporary magnifier

On Sat, 24 Feb 2007 20:10:47 +0100, Akkana Peck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > peter sikking writes: >> what I am asking myself is 'does this thing need to be circular? > > XEphem has a magnifier in some of its views, like the moon view. > It's just a square with a yellow border, and you can drag

Re: [Gimp-developer] Enhancement Proposal: Add a temporary magnifier

peter sikking writes: > what I am asking myself is 'does this thing need to be circular? XEphem has a magnifier in some of its views, like the moon view. It's just a square with a yellow border, and you can drag the mouse around and magnify different parts of the image in real time. http://shallow

Re: [Gimp-developer] Enhancement Proposal: Add a temporary magnifier

> how should tool interaction work with this? Would you want to see the > mouse cursor in the magnified view? Should you able to interact in it or > is it just a view? IMO, there should be a fixed crosshair or something in the center of the "zoom window" that corresponds to the cursor. As the to

Re: [Gimp-developer] Enhancement Proposal: Add a temporary magnifier

On Sat, 24 Feb 2007 11:02:26 +0100, Thorsten Wilms <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This leads me to a similar idea: > Opening a second view (implemented since long) > and enabling an option 'follow cursor', which would > scroll the view following the cursor, as long as the > cursor is on another vi

Re: [Gimp-developer] Enhancement Proposal: Add a temporary magnifier

Sven wrote: > how should tool interaction work with this? the tool still only interacts in a real GIMP window > Would you want to see the mouse cursor in the magnified view? yep, normal sized mouse cursor, with for all the brush based tools the brush coverage shape enlarged correctly. > Should

Re: [Gimp-developer] Enhancement Proposal: Add a temporary magnifier

Hi, On Sat, 2007-02-24 at 07:41 -0800, Mark Lowry wrote: > Here's a screen shot of the Windows version in action. > > http://pic20.picturetrail.com/VOL66/86790/6669793/233053894.jpg > > The Windows version is not "bad", but improvements > could be made and I don't know if other operating > syst

Re: [Gimp-developer] Enhancement Proposal: Add a temporary magnifier

IMO, you definitely need to see the mouse cursor in the magnified view, and you should be able to interact with it. Windows has a magnifier that uses a second window for the magnified display. The good is that the cursor shows up in the enlarged view ... the bad is that the window takes up so muc

Re: [Gimp-developer] Enhancement Proposal: Add a temporary magnifier

Steve Stavropoulos wrote: > I really _miss_ this feature! One of the things I do all the time, is > selecting rectangular regions from an image, with pixel perfect > precision and then copy + paste as new. > The important things in implementing something like this are: > 1) You have to have an

Re: [Gimp-developer] Enhancement Proposal: Add a temporary magnifier

Hi, how should tool interaction work with this? Would you want to see the mouse cursor in the magnified view? Should you able to interact in it or is it just a view? Sven ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://l

Re: [Gimp-developer] Enhancement Proposal: Add a temporary magnifier

On 2/24/07, Mark Lowry wrote: > It would be useful to add a temporary magnifying window that would > provide a zoomed-in view of the area immediately surrounding the cursor. > This could be accessed, for example, by pressing SHIFT+Z, upon which a > small window would open up and display the area ar

Re: [Gimp-developer] Enhancement Proposal: Add a temporary magnifier

On Saturday 24 February 2007 14:12, Mark Lowry wrote: > I was thinking more like this ... > > http://pic20.picturetrail.com/VOL66/86790/6669793/233033597.jpg Hello, I have to admit that this is a great idea. But I think it is better to have both normal and magnified view at the same time, becau

Re: [Gimp-developer] Enhancement Proposal: Add a temporary magnifier

I was thinking more like this ... http://pic20.picturetrail.com/VOL66/86790/6669793/233033597.jpg --- peter sikking <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Mark Lowry wrote: > > > It would be useful to add a temporary magnifying > > window that would provide a zoomed-in view of the > > area immediately s

Re: [Gimp-developer] Enhancement Proposal: Add a temporary magnifier

Mark Lowry wrote: > It would be useful to add a temporary magnifying > window that would provide a zoomed-in view of the > area immediately surrounding the cursor. like this? assigned to a spring-loaded key (push down: magnifier appears, r

Re: [Gimp-developer] Enhancement Proposal: Add a temporary magnifier

On Fri, Feb 23, 2007 at 05:14:13PM -0800, Mark Lowry wrote: > It would be useful to add a temporary magnifying > window that would provide a > zoomed-in view of the area immediately surrounding the > cursor. > This functionality would be very useful when making > selections with the pen > tool, l

Re: [Gimp-developer] Enhancement Proposal: Add a temporary magnifier

On 2/24/07, Alexandre Prokoudine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > to be used (1x, 2x, 3x, 5x, etc.). It doesn't soom to differ significantly from existing Navigation window It does! Navigation window provides a zoomed out view of the entire image -- this provides a zoomed in view of the area th

Re: [Gimp-developer] Enhancement Proposal: Add a temporary magnifier

On 2/24/07, Mark Lowry wrote: > It would be useful to add a temporary magnifying > window that would provide a > zoomed-in view of the area immediately surrounding the > cursor. This could be > accessed, for example, by pressing SHIFT+Z, upon which > a small window would > open up and display the

[Gimp-developer] Enhancement Proposal: Add a temporary magnifier

I submitted Bug #409802 on Bugzilla, but it was suggested that I post it here for discussion. Here is the initial submittal from the bug. Please review bug #409802 if more clarification is required. Opened by [EMAIL PROTECTED] (reporter, points: 3) 2007-02-19 2