Re: [Gimp-user] New mailing list

2022-10-27 Thread SDA via gimp-user-list
On Mon, Oct 24, 2022 at 09:50:05AM +0200, Ralf Mardorf via gimp-user-list wrote: > On Sun, 2022-10-23 at 23:20 -0400, SDA via gimp-user-list wrote: > > Why splinter up the user lists? > > You need to ask this question the powers that be who are associated > withe the GNOME foundation. > > > You

Re: [Gimp-user] Announcement: this mailing list will be retired by the end of Oct 2022

2022-10-26 Thread Andrea Veri
Hi, I’ve received several questions during the past days which possibly makes sense to summarize in a single topic [1] which I can then reference. Hopefully this specific post will help anyone looking for the same set of answers as well. If any additional common question arises I’ll make sure to

Re: [Gimp-user] [rebellion attempt] Fight back!

2022-10-26 Thread Ross Martinek
I’m a GIMP user. I haven’t written code since the days of WATFOR. So whatfor all this kerfluffll? I don’t care if it’s a mailing list (I can deal with ancient technology. I’m a retired geologist. Banging two rocks together is old school, but we still do it.) Mailing lists are fine. So are more

Re: [Gimp-user] [rebellion attempt] Fight back!

2022-10-26 Thread Ralf Mardorf via gimp-user-list
On Tue, 2022-10-25 at 21:28 -0500, Ross Martinek wrote: > This debate is … absurd. Hi, have you already signed up? A lot of users tested Discourse. I'm one of them. Note, you can only send a request, if you reach "Level 1". It's not absurd to fight gamification.

Re: [Gimp-user] You can follow the Discourse server in Thunderbird using RSS

2022-10-25 Thread Cliff Pratt via gimp-user-list
> > > Hi, > > you can use Discourse Gnome as a mailing list. The funny thing is, that > using it as a mailing list, it requires to turn of the mailing list > feature, not to enable it. Instead of enabling the mailing list feature, > you need to choose the wanted tag, in your case it's probably

Re: [Gimp-user] [Evolution] [evolution-users] What do I do now?

2022-10-25 Thread Ralf Mardorf via gimp-user-list
On Tue, 2022-10-25 at 22:17 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Tue, 2022-10-25 at 14:50 -0500, Pat David via gimp-user-list wrote: > > Anecdata. Unless you have some good examples where this is actually > > an "unmanageable mess". > > My experiences have mostly been just fine with mixed ML/web

Re: [Gimp-user] [Evolution] [evolution-users] What do I do now?

2022-10-25 Thread Pat David via gimp-user-list
> > That's never the problem. The problem with discourse is when some ppl > use it as a web forum and others use it as an ML. Especially within the > same thread. It all descends into an unmanageable mess. :-( > Anecdata. Unless you have some good examples where this is actually an

Re: [Gimp-user] You can follow the Discourse server in Thunderbird using RSS

2022-10-25 Thread Ralf Mardorf via gimp-user-list
On Tue, 2022-10-25 at 10:29 -0400, Kat wrote: > I have been a gimp user for years and been on the mailing list a long time. > I like it better then having to go to a forum and log in I can keep > track of issues, updates and news > > I have also been a thunderbird user for years thank you ofnuts

Re: [Gimp-user] You can follow the Discourse server in Thunderbird using RSS

2022-10-25 Thread Kat
sorry replied with wrong email address I have been a gimp user for years and been on the mailing list a long time. I like it better then having to go to a forum and log in I can keep track of issues, updates and news I have also been a thunderbird user for years thank you ofnuts that I can

Re: [Gimp-user] [Evolution] [evolution-users] What do I do now?

2022-10-25 Thread Brad Rogers
On Tue, 25 Oct 2022 12:06:44 +0200 Michael Schumacher via gimp-user-list wrote: Hello Michael, >Personally, I think that Discourse will be more than able to handle this That's never the problem. The problem with discourse is when some ppl use it as a web forum and others use it as an ML.

Re: [Gimp-user] [Evolution] [evolution-users] What do I do now?

2022-10-25 Thread Michael Schumacher via gimp-user-list
Am 25.10.22 um 11:13 schrieb Ralf Mardorf via gimp-user-list: an important part of the app communities are the app developers, the admins and moderators of the current lists at gnome.org, hence a first step to get closer to a solution are statements from those people. For the gimp-user list,

Re: [Gimp-user] [Evolution] [evolution-users] What do I do now?

2022-10-25 Thread Ralf Mardorf via gimp-user-list
On Tue, 2022-10-25 at 16:02 +0800, Bret Busby wrote: > losses will occur. > > Some of the people on some of the gnome lists, are being quite vocal > about all kinds of possibilities, but, seem to be doing nothing about > any of the possibilities. Hi, an important part of the app communities

Re: [Gimp-user] [evolution-users] [Evolution] What do I do now?

2022-10-25 Thread Bret Busby
On 25/10/22 15:42, Ralf via groups.io wrote: On Tue, 2022-10-25 at 14:43 +0800, Bret Busby wrote: On 25/10/22 10:18, Ralf via groups.io wrote: Temporarily we can continue to think about how to proceed at https://groups.io/g/evolution-users https://groups.io/g/gimp-users Just to clarify -

Re: [Gimp-user] [evolution-users] [Evolution] What do I do now?

2022-10-25 Thread Bret Busby
On 25/10/22 10:18, Ralf via groups.io wrote: On Tue, 2022-10-25 at 08:31 +0800, Luigi via evolution-list wrote: Since we only have a few days left may I suggest the group focus on putting forwards what options we have and those actually doing the work can decide the best choice and we go for it

Re: [Gimp-user] [evolution-users] [Evolution] What do I do now?

2022-10-25 Thread Ralf Mardorf via gimp-user-list
On Tue, 2022-10-25 at 14:43 +0800, Bret Busby wrote: > On 25/10/22 10:18, Ralf via groups.io wrote: > > Temporarily we can continue to think about how to proceed at > > > > https://groups.io/g/evolution-users > > https://groups.io/g/gimp-users > > > > Just to clarify - when I set up the

Re: [Gimp-user] [Evolution] What do I do now?

2022-10-24 Thread Ralf Mardorf via gimp-user-list
On Tue, 2022-10-25 at 08:31 +0800, Luigi via evolution-list wrote: > Since we only have a few days left may I suggest the group focus on > putting forwards what options we have and those actually doing the > work can decide the best choice and we go for it (even if its not > perfect). Hi,

Re: [Gimp-user] New mailing list

2022-10-24 Thread Rick Strong
Well put, Ralf. And some of us value productivity over bells & whistles. R -Original Message- From: Ralf Mardorf via gimp-user-list Sent: Monday, October 24, 2022 3:50 AM To: gimp-user-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] New mailing list On Sun, 2022-10-23 at 23:20 -0400, SDA

Re: [Gimp-user] Let's unite the power of all mailing list subscribers who are affected by GNOME's ruling

2022-10-24 Thread GSR - FR
Hi, y...@shurup.com (2022-10-23 at 1757.02 +0200): > Hi Ralf, > > I've briefly looked into the alternatives: > > * groups.io - way too expensive for us > * riseup.net - political organization > * Google Groups - free, no positive / negative experience > * Freedesktop - maybe they could accept a

Re: [Gimp-user] Affinity is an alternative

2022-10-24 Thread Cliff Pratt via gimp-user-list
THAT is definitely trolling. On Tue, 25 Oct 2022 at 02:46, Rick Strong wrote: > No, I was just trying to be helpful to those who may be looking for an > inexpensive alternative. It would seem I've disturbed the religious > purists. > Linux is for losers. > > R > > -Original Message- >

Re: [Gimp-user] Announcement: this mailing list will be retired by the end of Oct 2022 (Dan Hitt)

2022-10-24 Thread Rick Kline
Thank you, Dave. I installed Thunderbird on our Mac and after a few moments was able to figure out the next steps. After setting up a News account, I clicked on “Manage newsgroup subscriptions”, typed GIMP in the “Show items that contain:” line. “comp.graphics.apps.gimp” was at the top of the

Re: [Gimp-user] Announcement: this mailing list will be retired by the end of Oct 2022 (Dan Hitt)

2022-10-24 Thread Ofnuts via gimp-user-list
In Discourse  use "tags" (like on SO...) and you can of course search/display using tags, and even put them in a URL. So try: https://discourse.gnome.org/tag/gimp On 21/10/2022 17:05, Micah Salb wrote: But where is that forum? I signed up but all I see is stuff about Gnome--nothing about

Re: [Gimp-user] [rebellion attempt] Fight back!

2022-10-24 Thread Keith Christian via gimp-user-list
On Mon, Oct 24, 2022 at 1:50 AM Ralf Mardorf via gimp-user-list wrote: > If no new mailing lists will be available, I seriously doubt that a lot > of the Midnight Commander or of the Evolution mailing list subscribes > are willing to use Discourse in the future, let alone Twitter or > similar.

Re: [Gimp-user] Affinity is an alternative

2022-10-24 Thread Pat David via gimp-user-list
I would tend to agree with Ken that this sounds much more like trolling. No different than "suggesting" someone use photoshop to this list than affinity - all closed source and not real alternatives. "Linux is for losers" :D :D :D On Mon, Oct 24, 2022 at 8:46 AM Rick Strong wrote: > No, I was

Re: [Gimp-user] Affinity is an alternative

2022-10-24 Thread Rick Strong
No, I was just trying to be helpful to those who may be looking for an inexpensive alternative. It would seem I've disturbed the religious purists. Linux is for losers. R -Original Message- From: Ken Moffat via gimp-user-list Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2022 11:33 PM To:

[Gimp-user] You can follow the Discourse server in Thunderbird using RSS

2022-10-24 Thread Ofnuts via gimp-user-list
If you don't want to login regularly on Discourse, you can ask Thunderbird (or some other RSS client) to set up a RSS feed: - Right-click "Blogs and News feed" and click "Subscribe" - Set the feed URL to "https://discourse.gnome.org/tag/gimp.rss; (actually, about any Discourse URL works, you

Re: [Gimp-user] The system of levels, badges and presents of Discourse

2022-10-24 Thread Ofnuts via gimp-user-list
On 23/10/2022 08:59, Ralf Mardorf via gimp-user-list wrote: By closing individual mailman mailing lists and replacing it with a single forum, everything is under control of a single authority.There even isn't the need to moderate or ban users with unwanted opinions, since the users are educated

Re: [Gimp-user] [rebellion attempt] Fight back!

2022-10-24 Thread Werner LEMBERG via gimp-user-list
> a lot of the Evolution mailing list members, including myself, > tested the mailing list ability of Discourse. I was not allowed to > start a new thread by email, because my gamification level was 0. > You are allowed to start a new thread by email, after you reached > level 1. This is not the

Re: [Gimp-user] New mailing list

2022-10-24 Thread Ralf Mardorf via gimp-user-list
On Sun, 2022-10-23 at 23:20 -0400, SDA via gimp-user-list wrote: > Why splinter up the user lists? You need to ask this question the powers that be who are associated withe the GNOME foundation. > You do realize that its where the experts go > that is important, not you the user who needs the

Re: [Gimp-user] [rebellion attempt] Fight back!

2022-10-24 Thread Ralf Mardorf via gimp-user-list
On Sun, 2022-10-23 at 19:21 -0400, Liam R E Quin wrote: > The mailing list is moving to Discourse, yes. You can interact with > Discourse using email. Hi, a lot of the Evolution mailing list members, including myself, tested the mailing list ability of Discourse. I was not allowed to start a new

Re: [Gimp-user] [rebellion attempt] Fight back!

2022-10-23 Thread Ken Moffat via gimp-user-list
On Sun, Oct 23, 2022 at 08:19:05AM +0200, Ralf Mardorf via gimp-user-list wrote: > Hi, > > it's possible to replace almost all GNOME software by software that is > more or less identically. > > For example gedit can easily be replaced by pluma or even better by xed. > However, replacing GIMP is

[Gimp-user] Photoshop plugins used in GIMP 2.10?

2022-10-23 Thread PeepsGraphics via gimp-user-list
Can Photoshop plugins be used in GIMP 2.10 &, and if so, how does one go about installing them? [image: Headshot] Regards, Gloria (Peeps Graphics ) [image: Instagram] [image: Facebook]

[Gimp-user] Photoshop plugins in GIMP?

2022-10-23 Thread Gloria Lassich via gimp-user-list
Can Photoshop plugins be used in GIMP 2.10 &, and if so, how does one go about installing them? Regards, Gloria [image: @thecrazyloop Instagram] [image: @divashopg Instagram] [image: @peepsgrfx

Re: [Gimp-user] Affinity is an alternative

2022-10-23 Thread Ken Moffat via gimp-user-list
On Sun, Oct 23, 2022 at 01:01:57PM -0400, Rick Strong wrote: > I don’t want to dis GIMP, which has been good for me, but I do suggest people > look at Affinity software at https://affinity.serif.com. > > Their three products: Publisher (publication layout), Photo (photo and pixel >

Re: [Gimp-user] New mailing list

2022-10-23 Thread SDA via gimp-user-list
On Sun, Oct 23, 2022 at 10:37:00PM +0800, Bret Busby via gimp-user-list wrote: > For anyone who is interested - see > https://groups.io/g/gimp-users > > It is now, up to you to decide what you want to do. Why splinter up the user lists? You do realize that its where the experts go that is

Re: [Gimp-user] Discontinuation of mailing lists and moving to Discourse

2022-10-23 Thread SDA via gimp-user-list
They're not going to keep the mail infra for one or two email lists! Anyway, Discourse isn't bad, and as a long time email/newsgroup user I'm saying this, so you other luddites won't mind it once used. It's the future. ___ gimp-user-list mailing list

Re: [Gimp-user] [rebellion attempt] Fight back!

2022-10-23 Thread Liam R E Quin
On Sun, 2022-10-23 at 21:59 +0800, Bret Busby via gimp-user-list wrote: > > The ending of support for gnome products, especially for The GIMP and > for gedit, is disappointing,  It is untrue. There is no ending of support. The mailing list is moving to Discourse, yes. You can interact with

[Gimp-user] Fwd: Re: Let's unite the power of all mailing list subscribers who are affected by GNOME's ruling

2022-10-23 Thread Ralf Mardorf via gimp-user-list
Forwarded Message From: Grzegorz Szymaszek To: m...@gnome.org Cc: Ralf Mardorf , gimp-user-list@gnome.org, evolution-l...@gnome.org Subject: Re: Let's unite the power of all mailing list subscribers who are affected by GNOME's ruling Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2022 19:01:11 +0200 Hi,

Re: [Gimp-user] Let's unite the power of all mailing list subscribers who are affected by GNOME's ruling

2022-10-23 Thread Daniel Smith via gimp-user-list
Gimp not Kim On Sun, Oct 23, 2022 at 2:53 PM Daniel Smith wrote: > Last one: I checked and there are already lists there that have to do with > Kim so you might check them out you already might be archive there I’m sure > you are. I could be wrong. I often am. >  > > On Sun, Oct 23, 2022 at

Re: [Gimp-user] Let's unite the power of all mailing list subscribers who are affected by GNOME's ruling

2022-10-23 Thread Daniel Smith via gimp-user-list
Last one: I checked and there are already lists there that have to do with Kim so you might check them out you already might be archive there I’m sure you are. I could be wrong. I often am.  On Sun, Oct 23, 2022 at 2:51 PM Daniel Smith wrote: > OK one more. I might as well while I’m at it.

Re: [Gimp-user] Let's unite the power of all mailing list subscribers who are affected by GNOME's ruling

2022-10-23 Thread Daniel Smith via gimp-user-list
OK one more. I might as well while I’m at it. Here is the link to the page of all the lists on the page or in Marc. You can see how profound the amount of information is there it’s amazing it’s a great reference. https://marc.info/ On Sun, Oct 23, 2022 at 2:49 PM Daniel Smith wrote: > Here’s

Re: [Gimp-user] Let's unite the power of all mailing list subscribers who are affected by GNOME's ruling

2022-10-23 Thread Daniel Smith via gimp-user-list
Here’s another article about it. My experience is they have a very wide vest amount of information there. I think it personally it would be a good idea to put your list there because a lot of people from other technologies could find out about it and you could find out about them too. There’s a

Re: [Gimp-user] Let's unite the power of all mailing list subscribers who are affected by GNOME's ruling

2022-10-23 Thread Daniel Smith via gimp-user-list
I usually don’t reply to this list I just like to read it I like to watch ha ha. Just kidding, but another resource might be the Marc mailing list resource and archive. I only know about them because I used to follow a lot of technological groups like Apache server and XML-based technologies. Like

Re: [Gimp-user] [Evolution] Discourse and the situation for Mailman lists hosted by Gnome.org

2022-10-23 Thread solarflow99 via gimp-user-list
Thanks to everyone who has been trying to do something about this. Its sad the more ML's move to web forums, i've been on a few like that and its never been the same, they lose a lot of good people. On Sun, Oct 23, 2022 at 8:28 AM Ralf Mardorf via mc wrote: > Hi, > > it's worth to forward

Re: [Gimp-user] Let's unite the power of all mailing list subscribers who are affected by GNOME's ruling

2022-10-23 Thread Yury V. Zaytsev
Hi Ralf, I've briefly looked into the alternatives: * groups.io - way too expensive for us * riseup.net - political organization * Google Groups - free, no positive / negative experience * Freedesktop - maybe they could accept a couple of low-traffic lists? If other lists find a good solution,

Re: [Gimp-user] Let's unite the power of all mailing list subscribers who are affected by GNOME's ruling

2022-10-23 Thread Grzegorz Szymaszek via gimp-user-list
Hi, FWIW, since a few years, Mutt's mailing lists[1] are hosted at Oregon State University Open Source Lab[2]. From my limited experience, this solution works quite reliably. In general, they provide hosting of mailing lists and other services for free for open source projects[3]. Some

[Gimp-user] Affinity is an alternative

2022-10-23 Thread Rick Strong
I don’t want to dis GIMP, which has been good for me, but I do suggest people look at Affinity software at https://affinity.serif.com. Their three products: Publisher (publication layout), Photo (photo and pixel manipulation) and Designer (vector illustration) are all first rate. Very low

Re: [Gimp-user] Let's unite the power of all mailing list subscribers who are affected by GNOME's ruling

2022-10-23 Thread Ralf Mardorf via gimp-user-list
On Sun, 2022-10-23 at 17:57 +0200, Yury V. Zaytsev wrote: > * groups.io - way too expensive for us > * riseup.net - political organization > * Google Groups - free, no positive / negative experience > * Freedesktop - maybe they could accept a couple of low-traffic lists? > > If other lists find a

Re: [Gimp-user] New mailing list

2022-10-23 Thread Kevin Cozens
On 2022-10-23 10:37, Bret Busby via gimp-user-list wrote: For anyone who is interested - see https://groups.io/g/gimp-users I looked at the page linked to above. FYI, the project hasn't been called "The GIMP" in quite some time. It is now just referred to as GIMP. Thanks for setting up the

Re: [Gimp-user] [Evolution] Discourse and the situation for Mailman lists hosted by Gnome.org

2022-10-23 Thread Ralf Mardorf via gimp-user-list
Hi, it's worth to forward this [1] to other GNOME mailing lists. Regards, Ralf [1] Forwarded Message To: evolution-l...@gnome.org Subject: Re: [Evolution] Discourse and the situation for Mailman lists hosted by Gnome.org Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2022 11:19:21 -0400 On Sun,

Re: [Gimp-user] New mailing list

2022-10-23 Thread Ralf Mardorf via gimp-user-list
Well done Bret! I posted the link https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list/2022-October/msg00057.html at the Evolution mailing list. Regards, Ralf ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership:

Re: [Gimp-user] Announcement: this mailing list will be retired by the end of Oct 2022

2022-10-23 Thread graphics2281
Well, this is unfortunate. So far I think I am just going to hope that I can look at that Web based forum, and hope that search engines can catalog it decently so I can get help with GIMP when I need it. I see that someone has said there that only top posting is allowed for quoted replies

[Gimp-user] Fight back!

2022-10-23 Thread Ralf Mardorf
Hi, it's possible to replace almost all GNOME software by software that is more or less identically. For example gedit can easily be replaced by pluma or even better by xed. However, replacing GIMP is not that straightforward as replacing an editor. When the user interface of GIMP became more

Re: [Gimp-user] New mailing list

2022-10-23 Thread Luna Jernberg via gimp-user-list
Joined On 10/23/22, Bret Busby via gimp-user-list wrote: > For anyone who is interested - see > https://groups.io/g/gimp-users > > It is now, up to you to decide what you want to do. > > -- > Bret Busby > Armadale > West Australia > (UTC+0800) > .. >

[Gimp-user] New mailing list

2022-10-23 Thread Bret Busby via gimp-user-list
For anyone who is interested - see https://groups.io/g/gimp-users It is now, up to you to decide what you want to do. -- Bret Busby Armadale West Australia (UTC+0800) .. ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:

Re: [Gimp-user] Let's unite the power of all mailing list subscribers who are affected by GNOME's ruling

2022-10-23 Thread Bret Busby via gimp-user-list
On 23/10/2022, Ralf Mardorf via gimp-user-list wrote: > > Reading the MC archive I noticed the question regarding groups.io. If > it's free as in beer or not depends on the count of subscribers and the > needed storage space. In short, it likely is not for free as in beer. > As a subscriber

Re: [Gimp-user] [rebellion attempt] Fight back!

2022-10-23 Thread Bret Busby via gimp-user-list
On 23/10/2022, Ralf Mardorf via gimp-user-list wrote: > Hi, > > it's possible to replace almost all GNOME software by software that is > more or less identically. > > For example gedit can easily be replaced by pluma or even better by xed. > However, replacing GIMP is not that straightforward as

[Gimp-user] Let's unite the power of all mailing list subscribers who are affected by GNOME's ruling

2022-10-23 Thread Ralf Mardorf via gimp-user-list
Hi, I'm a long time Evolution mailing list subscriber, who just recently subscribed to the gimp and mc mailing list, since we all suffer from the decision that the GNOME mailing lists get shut down this month. Reading the MC archive I noticed the question regarding groups.io. If it's free as in

[Gimp-user] The system of levels, badges and presents of Discourse

2022-10-23 Thread Ralf Mardorf via gimp-user-list
By closing individual mailman mailing lists and replacing it with a single forum, everything is under control of a single authority. There even isn't the need to moderate or ban users with unwanted opinions, since the users are educated by levels, badges and presents. IOW all users are under

[Gimp-user] [rebellion attempt] Fight back!

2022-10-23 Thread Ralf Mardorf via gimp-user-list
Hi, it's possible to replace almost all GNOME software by software that is more or less identically. For example gedit can easily be replaced by pluma or even better by xed. However, replacing GIMP is not that straightforward as replacing an editor. When the user interface of GIMP became more

Re: [Gimp-user] [Gegl-developer] Discontinuation of mailing lists and moving to Discourse

2022-10-21 Thread GSR - FR
Hi, gimp-developer-l...@gnome.org (2022-10-18 at 0833.00 +0200): > Am 18.10.22 um 02:29 schrieb Jehan Pagès via gegl-developer-list: > > There is one more thing to take into consideration: more > > infrastructure means more work. I said it above, I am exhausted by > > this all. I was only managing

Re: [Gimp-user] [Gimp-developer] Discontinuation of mailing lists and moving to Discourse

2022-10-21 Thread GSR - FR
Hi, gimp-user-list@gnome.org (2022-10-18 at 0225.30 +0100): > On Mon, Oct 17, 2022 at 10:00:24PM +0200, Jehan Pagès via gimp-developer-list > wrote: > > Hi! > > On Mon, Oct 17, 2022 at 9:48 PM Rick Strong wrote: > > > > > So if I want to ask a question about using GIMP, or respond to a

[Gimp-user] It's been a great ride

2022-10-21 Thread Rick Strong
Well folks, it’s been a great ride. Been with GIMP a number of years now and I appreciate the effort to maintain it, but it seems it’s time to go. Wear a mask, stay safe, be happy. Cheers, Rick S. ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:

Re: [Gimp-user] Announcement: this mailing list will be retired by the end of Oct 2022 (Dan Hitt)

2022-10-21 Thread Pat David via gimp-user-list
As mentioned in Jehan's thread on [Gimp-docs] "Discontinuation of mailing lists and moving to Discourse", there are two primary options. 1. There is a "GIMP" tag on the forum if you want to see only GIMP related messages: https://discourse.gnome.org/tag/gimp 2. There is the GIMP forum on

Re: [Gimp-user] Announcement: this mailing list will be retired by the end of Oct 2022 (Dan Hitt)

2022-10-21 Thread Micah Salb
But where is that forum? I signed up but all I see is stuff about Gnome--nothing about Gimp! Where do I find the Gimp forum? Micah Salb -Original Message- From: gimp-user-list On Behalf Of Luna Jernberg via gimp-user-list Sent: Friday, October 21, 2022 9:33 AM To: Gloria Lassich

[Gimp-user] Re (2): Announcement: this mailing list will be retired by the end of Oct 2022 (Dan Hitt)

2022-10-21 Thread peter
Dave & all, > A great provider is news://nntp.aioe.org. Agreed! I've used aioe for several years. > Fear not, they are very easy to use - just like email. Definitely! > If you use Thunderbird, the newsgroup reader is built in. Another possibility: the news reader in Oberon is

Re: [Gimp-user] Announcement: this mailing list will be retired by the end of Oct 2022

2022-10-21 Thread JLuc
Hello, Never posting, but I was (sometimes) reading these lists via news.gmane.io in thunderbird newsgroups pane. Thunderbird folders are in my user space, so it was receiving these talks kind of "at home" and they were on my everyday mouse's path. A Discourse wont be on my everyday mouse's

Re: [Gimp-user] Announcement: this mailing list will be retired by the end of Oct 2022 (Dan Hitt)

2022-10-21 Thread dboland9 via gimp-user-list
GIMP Users, I hate web based forums/help because it is a royal pain to use. There is an alternative. It is "comp.graphics.apps.gimp" news group. Not familiar with news groups? If you use Thunderbird, the newsgroup reader is built in. A great provider is news://nntp.aioe.org. Fear not,

Re: [Gimp-user] Announcement: this mailing list will be retired by the end of Oct 2022 (Dan Hitt)

2022-10-21 Thread Luna Jernberg via gimp-user-list
The forum at https://discourse.gnome.org/ will replace the list On 10/21/22, Gloria Lassich via gimp-user-list wrote: > So, this mailing list will be gone? Bummer. Is there another place (forum, > etc.) that you guys recommend for help with GIMP?-- > > http://www.instagram.com/peepsgrfx >

Re: [Gimp-user] Announcement: this mailing list will be retired by the end of Oct 2022 (Dan Hitt)

2022-10-20 Thread Gloria Lassich via gimp-user-list
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Re: [Gimp-user] News list being retired

2022-10-20 Thread Shlomi Fish
Hi! On Fri, 21 Oct 2022 00:09:33 +0200 Jernej Simončič <#/&+-'={*_~}$.`?@eternallybored.org> wrote: > On Thursday, October 20, 2022, 23:49:49, Joel Rees via gimp-user-list wrote: > > > Ah, but it's not new and shiny and easy to check off the to-do lists. > > Main problem with usenet is the

Re: [Gimp-user] News list being retired

2022-10-20 Thread peter
From: =?utf-8?Q?Jernej_Simon Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2022 00:09:33 +0200 > ... barely anybody still uses a newsreader (or even knows that > they exist ... There's something for that. Documentation. A half page should be enough to deploy a news reader. =8~) The reader I use is almost trivial

Re: [Gimp-user] News list being retired

2022-10-20 Thread Joel Rees via gimp-user-list
2022年10月21日(金) 5:21 : > Dave & all, > > From: dboland9 via gimp-user-list > Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2022 18:51:45 + > > There really must be a better way. > > Usenet, invented more than 40 years ago. > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usenet > > A small screenshot from recent submissions here. >

Re: [Gimp-user] Re (3): Announcement: this mailing list will be retired by the end of Oct 2022

2022-10-20 Thread Joel Rees via gimp-user-list
2022年10月21日(金) 4:51 Patrick Shanahan via gimp-user-list < gimp-user-list@gnome.org>: > * pe...@easthope.ca [10-20-22 14:56]: > > P.s. > > > > From: pe...@easthope.ca > > Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2022 09:15:21 -0700 > > > In most authenticated interfaces "logout" is directly visible or one > > > level

Re: [Gimp-user] News list being retired

2022-10-20 Thread peter
Dave & all, From: dboland9 via gimp-user-list Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2022 18:51:45 + > There really must be a better way. Usenet, invented more than 40 years ago. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usenet A small screenshot from recent submissions here.

Re: [Gimp-user] Re (3): Announcement: this mailing list will be retired by the end of Oct 2022

2022-10-20 Thread Patrick Shanahan via gimp-user-list
* pe...@easthope.ca [10-20-22 14:56]: > P.s. > > From: pe...@easthope.ca > Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2022 09:15:21 -0700 > > In most authenticated interfaces "logout" is directly visible or one > > level down. Here two levels down. =8~/ Can't commend that. > > Login and logout are inverses.

Re: [Gimp-user] Announcement: this mailing list will be retired by the end of Oct 2022

2022-10-20 Thread Dan Hitt via gimp-user-list
On Thu, Oct 20, 2022 at 12:06 PM Jernej Simončič <#/&+-'={*_~}$.`?@ eternallybored.org> wrote: > On Thursday, October 20, 2022, 18:44:12, pe...@easthope.ca wrote: > > > Login and logout are inverses. Therefore, finding them at the same > > level is rational. Login is top level. Putting logout

[Gimp-user] Re (3): Announcement: this mailing list will be retired by the end of Oct 2022

2022-10-20 Thread peter
P.s. From: pe...@easthope.ca Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2022 09:15:21 -0700 > In most authenticated interfaces "logout" is directly visible or one > level down. Here two levels down. =8~/ Can't commend that. Login and logout are inverses. Therefore, finding them at the same level is rational.

[Gimp-user] News list being retired

2022-10-20 Thread dboland9 via gimp-user-list
I see that the plan is to go to yet another web based mess. I don't care for the idea of having to have an ID and PW to ask a question. Please at least consider guest accounts, or re-think the whole idea. There really must be a better way. Dave, Sent with [Proton Mail](https://proton.me/)

Re: [Gimp-user] Trouble Importing DNG files

2022-10-20 Thread Rick Strong
Zamzar has a free online converter that does DNG. Try it. I've used it for other files. https://www.zamzar.com/converters/image/dng/ Rick -Original Message- From: Micah Salb Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2022 11:41 AM To: gimp-user-list@gnome.org Subject: [Gimp-user] Trouble

[Gimp-user] Re (2): Announcement: this mailing list will be retired by the end of Oct 2022

2022-10-20 Thread peter
From: =?UTF-8?B?SmVoYW4gUGFnw6hz?= Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2022 17:49:38 +0200 > 1) On the top-right, there is an icon ... Found it. Thx. In most authenticated interfaces "logout" is directly visible or one level down. Here two levels down. =8~/ Can't commend that. Thanks, ...

Re: [Gimp-user] Announcement: this mailing list will be retired by the end of Oct 2022

2022-10-20 Thread Jehan Pagès via gimp-user-list
Hi! On Thu, Oct 20, 2022 at 5:42 PM wrote: > From: Andrea Veri > Subject:[Gimp-user] Announcement: this mailing list will be > retired by the end of Oct 2022 > > ... GNOME's Mailman platform is being decommissioned ... > > ... > > [1] https://discourse.gnome.org > > > Jehan (from the

Re: [Gimp-user] Announcement: this mailing list will be retired by the end of Oct 2022

2022-10-20 Thread peter
From: Andrea Veri Subject:[Gimp-user] Announcement: this mailing list will be retired by the end of Oct 2022 > ... GNOME's Mailman platform is being decommissioned ... > ... > [1] https://discourse.gnome.org > Jehan (from the GIMP Team) kindly provided some instructions ... I created

[Gimp-user] Trouble Importing DNG files

2022-10-20 Thread Micah Salb
Folks: I have tried to import DNG files from my iPhone 14 and I get an error message each time: Calling error for procedure ‘gimp-file-load’: Error opening file ‘C” \users\xxx\AppData\Local\Temp\gimp\2.10\gimp-temp-434241.exr’ for reading And: Opening . . . failed: Raw Adobe DNG Digital

[Gimp-user] Announcement: this mailing list will be retired by the end of Oct 2022

2022-10-20 Thread Andrea Veri
Hi, As we have been communicating during the past few months GNOME's Mailman platform is being decommissioned (python2 deprecation, major burden in managing lists spam). The deadline is currently set to the end of October 2022. Mailing list subscribers are invited to migrate to GNOME's Discourse

[Gimp-user] Re (3): Re (2): Discontinuation of mailing lists and moving to Discourse

2022-10-19 Thread peter
From: Michael Schumacher via gimp-user-list Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2022 13:00:50 +0200 > I don't think changing to a service many people wouldn't even have > heard of is very viable. By "service" you mean Usenet or Discourse? >From the replies here, Discourse is less familiar than Usenet. >

Re: [Gimp-user] Re (2): Discontinuation of mailing lists and moving to Discourse

2022-10-19 Thread Michael Schumacher via gimp-user-list
Am 18.10.22 um 16:30 schrieb pe...@easthope.ca: The spam problem is easily understood. Introduction of any new technology should be justified in the context of existing technologies. In this case one technology is email. Another is Usenet news. Individual Usenet servers can exclude spam.

Re: [Gimp-user] Discontinuation of mailing lists and moving to Discourse

2022-10-19 Thread Jehan Pagès via gimp-user-list
Hi! On Wed, Oct 19, 2022 at 11:20 AM Marco Ciampa via gimp-user-list < gimp-user-list@gnome.org> wrote: > On Wed, Oct 19, 2022 at 02:43:53PM +0900, Joel Rees via gimp-user-list > wrote: > > I'm not an active user of the lists, haven't posted in ages. so I was > just > > considering ignoring this

Re: [Gimp-user] Discontinuation of mailing lists and moving to Discourse

2022-10-19 Thread Marco Ciampa via gimp-user-list
On Wed, Oct 19, 2022 at 02:43:53PM +0900, Joel Rees via gimp-user-list wrote: > I'm not an active user of the lists, haven't posted in ages. so I was just > considering ignoring this thread and when the list disappears disappearing > from the community myself. > > But I decided to investigate

Re: [Gimp-user] Discontinuation of mailing lists and moving to Discourse

2022-10-18 Thread Joel Rees via gimp-user-list
I'm not an active user of the lists, haven't posted in ages. so I was just considering ignoring this thread and when the list disappears disappearing from the community myself. But I decided to investigate discourse to see if I would be installing a client or whatever, and I find the project

[Gimp-user] Testing by Teo En Ming

2022-10-18 Thread Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming via gimp-user-list
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[Gimp-user] Greetings from Mr. Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming before all the GIMP mailing lists shut down

2022-10-18 Thread Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming via gimp-user-list
Subject: Greetings from Mr. Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming before all the GIMP mailing lists shut down Good day from Singapore, My name is Mr. Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming. I am a targeted individual living in Singapore. In my spare time, I am a hobbyist photographer and videographer who

[Gimp-user] Re (2): Discontinuation of mailing lists and moving to Discourse

2022-10-18 Thread peter
From: Michael Schumacher via gimp-user-list Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2022 08:33:00 +0200 > Spam did indeed heavily outweigh the on-topic messages ... > ... mailman-based mailing list ... The spam problem is easily understood. Introduction of any new technology should be justified in the context

Re: [Gimp-user] [Gimp-developer] Discontinuation of mailing lists and moving to Discourse

2022-10-18 Thread Jehan Pagès via gimp-user-list
Hi! On Tue, Oct 18, 2022 at 3:25 AM Ken Moffat wrote: > On Mon, Oct 17, 2022 at 10:00:24PM +0200, Jehan Pagès via > gimp-developer-list wrote: > > Hi! > > > > On Mon, Oct 17, 2022 at 9:48 PM Rick Strong wrote: > > > > > So if I want to ask a question about using GIMP, or respond to a >

Re: [Gimp-user] Discontinuation of mailing lists and moving to Discourse

2022-10-18 Thread Jehan Pagès via gimp-user-list
Hi! On Tue, Oct 18, 2022 at 4:43 AM Rick Strong wrote: > Gee, Jehan I'm really sorry I was so involved in getting photographs ready > for print tomorrow morning that I overlooked the possibility that YOU might > also be stressed out. I’m going blind in one eye, had a heart attack in > August

Re: [Gimp-user] [Gegl-developer] Discontinuation of mailing lists and moving to Discourse

2022-10-18 Thread Michael Schumacher via gimp-user-list
Am 18.10.22 um 02:29 schrieb Jehan Pagès via gegl-developer-list: [...] Now we could always try to fight against the current and persuade GNOME infrastructure team, but we made a small opinion tour among the current core team and nobody really had particular love or use of our mailing lists.

Re: [Gimp-user] Discontinuation of mailing lists and moving to Discourse

2022-10-17 Thread Rick Strong
Gee, Jehan I'm really sorry I was so involved in getting photographs ready for print tomorrow morning that I overlooked the possibility that YOU might also be stressed out. I’m going blind in one eye, had a heart attack in August and I’ve been going for over 12 hours now, but that’s no excuse.

Re: [Gimp-user] [Gimp-developer] Discontinuation of mailing lists and moving to Discourse

2022-10-17 Thread Ken Moffat via gimp-user-list
On Mon, Oct 17, 2022 at 10:00:24PM +0200, Jehan Pagès via gimp-developer-list wrote: > Hi! > > On Mon, Oct 17, 2022 at 9:48 PM Rick Strong wrote: > > > So if I want to ask a question about using GIMP, or respond to a question, > > how do I do it? > > > > Well basically same as you always did,

Re: [Gimp-user] Discontinuation of mailing lists and moving to Discourse

2022-10-17 Thread Jehan Pagès via gimp-user-list
Hi everyone! I received 2 off-list emails. Please do not send me off-list emails. I am exhausted  and cannot do private support in addition to public support, code development, news writing, website making and everything else in GIMP.  This is even more true as I don't really see anything

Re: [Gimp-user] Discontinuation of mailing lists and moving to Discourse

2022-10-17 Thread Jehan Pagès via gimp-user-list
Hi! On Mon, Oct 17, 2022 at 9:48 PM Rick Strong wrote: > So if I want to ask a question about using GIMP, or respond to a question, > how do I do it? > Well basically same as you always did, except that now it will be on one of the Discourse instances, such as the pixls.us one or the GNOME

Re: [Gimp-user] Discontinuation of mailing lists and moving to Discourse

2022-10-17 Thread Rick Strong
So if I want to ask a question about using GIMP, or respond to a question, how do I do it? Rick -Original Message- From: Jehan Pagès via gimp-user-list Sent: Monday, October 17, 2022 12:38 PM To: gimp-web-list ; gimp-developer ; GIMP User List ; gimp-gui-l...@gnome.org ;

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