physoc writes:
>>physoc (for...@gimpusers.com) wrote:
>>Uh, where do you see that? Certainly not on www.gimp.org, or?
>>
>>Sounds like some dubious download site, because we gimp developers
>>certainly can think of scenarios where paying for your photo editing
>>software makes a lot of sense.
>>
This has gone WAY off topic. To get back on topic, now it takes at least half an
hour for GIMP to start up for me. I can think of nothing that has changed since
the time when it only took 2 minutes to start up every time. Now it's almost as
if the process of querying every plugin at start up, has t
On 18.08.2013 02:54, Ofnuts wrote:
> On 08/17/2013 09:01 PM, Michael Schumacher wrote:
>>> Especially if the gimp that gimpusers is installing includes a bunch of
>>> crudware and the customer's think that we're technical support for that.
>> This is a misleading statement. Please re-read what I wr
On 08/17/2013 09:01 PM, Michael Schumacher wrote:
Especially if the gimp that gimpusers is installing includes a bunch of
crudware and the customer's think that we're technical support for that.
This is a misleading statement. Please re-read what I wrote about their
use of ad services. It's the
My mistake. Still, a redirector on that site is pointing to a download
with additional software.
On 8/17/2013 1:01 PM, Michael Schumacher wrote:
Am 17.08.2013 20:40, schrieb John Meyer:
On 8/17/2013 12:41 PM, Burnie West wrote:
On 08/16/2013 11:31 AM, Simon Budig wrote:
I believe it to be a
Am 17.08.2013 20:40, schrieb John Meyer:
> On 8/17/2013 12:41 PM, Burnie West wrote:
>> On 08/16/2013 11:31 AM, Simon Budig wrote:
>>> I believe it to be a bad idea that mails from"for...@gimpusers.com" are
>>> allowed on this mailinglist, it just confuses things.
>> +1
> Especially if the gimp t
On 8/17/2013 12:41 PM, Burnie West wrote:
On 08/16/2013 11:31 AM, Simon Budig wrote:
I believe it to be a bad idea that mails from"for...@gimpusers.com" are
allowed on this mailinglist, it just confuses things.
+1
Especially if the gimp that gimpusers is installing includes a bunch of
cru
On 08/16/2013 11:31 AM, Simon Budig wrote:
I believe it to be a bad idea that mails from"for...@gimpusers.com" are
allowed on this mailinglist, it just confuses things.
+1
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În data de Fri, 16 Aug 2013 20:08:45 +0200, Michael Schumacher a scris:
> > Simon, the phase appears at the bottom of this very page on
> > GIMPUSERS.comat www.getgimp.com
>
> Yep, this is some dubious download site. Note the "launches
> DownloadAdmin™, which will mange your installation proc
On 13-08-16 01:53 PM, physoc wrote:
Well mainly because it won't load my Nikon RAW files.
You need to install the UFraw or dcraw plug-ins for GIMP to load Nikon RAW
files. I use dcraw and I have no problem with Nikon RAW files from my D3100.
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When you do get around to trying it again, please don't hesitate to drop
back in and ask any questions. I'd be happy to help where I can!
On Fri, Aug 16, 2013 at 1:36 PM, physoc wrote:
> Thanks for the extensive reply and tips. I may try again in a week or two
> when
> I've 'recovered' from th
Thanks for the extensive reply and tips. I may try again in a week or two when
I've 'recovered' from the initial setback and frustration, and who knows I may
find that I've been totally wrong in my impression of usefulness.
Regards, Tony
>I feel that perhaps you may be a bit misguided in your inte
physoc (for...@gimpusers.com) wrote:
> >physoc (for...@gimpusers.com) wrote:
> >Uh, where do you see that? Certainly not on www.gimp.org, or?
> >
> >Sounds like some dubious download site, because we gimp developers
> >certainly can think of scenarios where paying for your photo editing
> >software
On 16.08.2013 19:57, physoc wrote:
>> physoc (for...@gimpusers.com) wrote:
>> Uh, where do you see that? Certainly not on www.gimp.org, or?
>>
>> Sounds like some dubious download site, because we gimp developers
>> certainly can think of scenarios where paying for your photo editing
>> software ma
I feel that perhaps you may be a bit misguided in your interpretation of
GIMP.
There are plenty of us who use it daily for high end photographic
retouching and editing. Like most things worth using, it may take a little
time to become accustomed to the methods and interface. Being initially
conf
>physoc (for...@gimpusers.com) wrote:
>Uh, where do you see that? Certainly not on www.gimp.org, or?
>
>Sounds like some dubious download site, because we gimp developers
>certainly can think of scenarios where paying for your photo editing
>software makes a lot of sense.
>
>Bye,
>Simon
Si
>I would really be interested in why you think GIMP is 'useless'.
Well mainly because it won't load my Nikon RAW files.
My impression is that it's aimed, not at 'photo editing but rather bitmap
graphics. See the comment about 'webcomic' on the thread.
But this aside I was disappointed given the c
I actually use GIMP to make my webcomic weekly. I don't think it's useless.
I just had to learn it--same as any other software.
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physoc (for...@gimpusers.com) wrote:
> The banner at the bottom of the GIMP webpage reads ' Why pay for Photo
> Editing Software?'
Uh, where do you see that? Certainly not on www.gimp.org, or?
Sounds like some dubious download site, because we gimp developers
certainly can think of scenarios wher
Michael Schumacher (schum...@gmx.de) wrote:
> >From: Sam Gleske
>
> > If that's the case I think you should discuss it with gimp-developer
> >list.
>
> But please come prepared - the Zonealarm developers should be able to
> tell why this is happening, please ask them. They have access to both
Well the issue is academic now as, once GIMP ran and I tried it, it got
uninstalled asap. Originally installed because a 'photo magazine described it as
'the closest thing to Photoshop you'll find'. I guess the reviewer was taking
some substance or alcohol...! I often find that these open-source
On Fri, Aug 16, 2013 at 11:16 AM, physoc wrote:
> Why, because the 'end user' wants something that works properly and
> has an intuitive GUI
Why, because the 'end user' wants something that works properly and has an
intuitive GUI **compared to what they already know and are familiar with**.
>I've ran Zone Alarm and it shouldn't be interfering with The GIMP
>starting up (especially since, afaik, The GIMP doesn't need the
>Internet
>to work).
Well the issue is academic now as, once GIMP ran and I tried it, it got
uninstalled asap. Originally installed because a 'photo magazine describ
>From: Sam Gleske
> If that's the case I think you should discuss it with gimp-developer
>list.
But please come prepared - the Zonealarm developers should be able to tell why
this is happening, please ask them. They have access to both GIMP's source
code and their own.
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I accidentally replied off list
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From: Sam Gleske
Date: Fri, Aug 16, 2013 at 9:56 AM
Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp 2.8.6 Windows - Queries new Plug-ins at every
startup
To: physoc
On Fri, Aug 16, 2013 at 9:17 AM, physoc wrote:
> >I downloade
On 08/16/13 08:17, physoc wrote:
I downloaded GIMP today (16 August) and run Win 7 (64-bit). I've been
unable to get it to start because it crashes when 'querying plugins'
in the 'Startup' routine. If I close the GIMP window and try again it
skips across the previous plugin .exe but then hangs at
>I downloaded GIMP today (16 August) and run Win 7 (64-bit). I've been
>unable to get it to start because it crashes when 'querying plugins'
>in the 'Startup' routine. If I close the GIMP window and try again it
>skips across the previous plugin .exe but then hangs at the next one.
>After ten-minut
>I just started using GIMP. I like it so far but this query of plugins
>at startup bug takes about 2 minutes every single time I start up
>GIMP. I hope there is a fix for it soon.
>
>I'm running Widows XP with GIMP 2.8.6
I downloaded GIMP today (16 August) and run Win 7 (64-bit). I've been unable
I just started using GIMP. I like it so far but this query of plugins at startup
bug takes about 2 minutes every single time I start up GIMP. I hope there is a
fix for it soon.
I'm running Widows XP with GIMP 2.8.6
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On Wed, Jun 26, 2013 at 4:11 PM, Jernej Simončič <
jernej|s-gm...@eternallybored.org> wrote:
> This appears to be a bug in 32-bit build - we're looking into it.
Is this a bug in the code (say, in gimppluginmanager-restore.c or
thereabouts) that I could help with, or with the process for the 32-b
On 06/26/2013 10:54 PM, Michael Schumacher wrote:
On 26.06.2013 22:43, Kevin Payne wrote:
Perhaps you could leave it buggy and maybe these python script
writers with problems won't see their changes ignored:
http://gimpforums.com/thread-problems-using-python-scripts
http://gimpchat.com/viewto
On 06/27/13 02:42, Michael Schumacher wrote:
Von: "Joseph A. Nagy, Jr"
On 06/26/13 15:17, scl wrote:
Am 26.06.13 22:11, schrieb Jernej Simončič:
This appears to be a bug in 32-bit build - we're looking into
it.
You're right. The 64 bit build doesn't have that delay on
startup.
Not tru
> Von: "Joseph A. Nagy, Jr"
> On 06/26/13 15:17, scl wrote:
> > Am 26.06.13 22:11, schrieb Jernej Simončič:
> >
> >> This appears to be a bug in 32-bit build - we're looking into it.
> >>
> > You're right. The 64 bit build doesn't have that delay on startup.
> Not true.
>
> amd64 FreeBSD 9.1-REL
On 06/26/13 15:17, scl wrote:
Am 26.06.13 22:11, schrieb Jernej Simončič:
This appears to be a bug in 32-bit build - we're looking into it.
You're right. The 64 bit build doesn't have that delay on startup.
Kind regards,
Sven
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On 26.06.2013 22:43, Kevin Payne wrote:
Perhaps you could leave it buggy and maybe these python script writers with
problems won't see their changes ignored:
http://gimpforums.com/thread-problems-using-python-scripts
http://gimpchat.com/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=6486
Or, as an alternative, someone
om: jernej|s-gm...@eternallybored.org
> Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2013 22:11:11 +0200
> Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp 2.8.6 Windows - Queries new Plug-ins at every
> startup
>
> On Wed, 26 Jun 2013 02:21:15 -0400, Jesse Pavel wrote:
>
> > Have others been experiencing this?
>
> Thi
Am 26.06.13 22:11, schrieb Jernej Simončič:
This appears to be a bug in 32-bit build - we're looking into it.
You're right. The 64 bit build doesn't have that delay on startup.
Kind regards,
Sven
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On Wed, 26 Jun 2013 02:21:15 -0400, Jesse Pavel wrote:
> Have others been experiencing this?
This appears to be a bug in 32-bit build - we're looking into it.
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On 06/26/13 09:40, Michael Schumacher wrote:
Von: "Joseph A. Nagy, Jr"
To my aged and somewhat failing recoginition, gimp has *always*
loaded/queried it's plugins and extensions when starting,
irrespective of platform. If 2.8.4 did not, it probably was a
failing/bug. I am still on 2.8.2 and
On Wed, Jun 26, 2013 at 10:40 AM, Michael Schumacher wrote:
> Yes, it does that. But in order to avoid querying plug-ins that haven't
> changed, their modification time is compared to the cached values. The
> whole query is hardly noticeable on a modern system except on the first
> launch (and lau
> Von: "Joseph A. Nagy, Jr"
> > To my aged and somewhat failing recoginition, gimp has *always*
> > loaded/queried it's plugins and extensions when starting, irrespective of
> > platform. If 2.8.4 did not, it probably was a failing/bug. I am still on
> > 2.8.2 and it also does the check/load at
On 06/26/13 07:02, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
* Jesse Pavel [06-26-13 02:22]:
Gimp 2.8.6 (on Windows) queries new plugins at every startup; 2.8.4 did not.
It seems pluginrc in the .gimp-2.8 user directory is written properly, and
when run with --verbose, gimp reports that it is parsing the file, b
* Jesse Pavel [06-26-13 02:22]:
> Gimp 2.8.6 (on Windows) queries new plugins at every startup; 2.8.4 did not.
> It seems pluginrc in the .gimp-2.8 user directory is written properly, and
> when run with --verbose, gimp reports that it is parsing the file, but
> immediately queries all the plugins
Hello,
Gimp 2.8.6 (on Windows) queries new plugins at every startup; 2.8.4 did not.
It seems pluginrc in the .gimp-2.8 user directory is written properly, and
when run with --verbose, gimp reports that it is parsing the file, but
immediately queries all the plugins anyhow.
Looking at pluginrc, it
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