bibliographical references to the
concerned journalist following a request put out on goanet by Rico at the
request of his Chennai based journalist friend interested in Mylapore-Goa
links.
There was no acknoledgment.
Teotonio R. de Souza
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Date: 22 Jun 2006 07:48:32
Gazetteers were tools for the British administrators. It contained all the
information the administrator need to know about the territory, people and
resources he needed for performing his duties. The assistants of Afonso de
Albuquerque produced the first two such manuals ever produced by
Dear Eric
Here follow some more details to add to my earlier posting on Fr. Jorda as
the first principal of Loyola High School, Margão.
Its earlier name St. Theotonio Union High School was derived from its
founder´s patron saint, namely of Patriarch-Archbishop of Goa, D. Theotonio
Vieira de
prepared the material!
Teotonio R. de Souza
Date: Wed, 07 Jun 2006 01:09:08 -0400
From: eric pinto [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Goanet] Our Language Saga, Vowel Wars.
To: goanet@goanet.org
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A Barcelona Jesuit
new members who may wish to enrich it
further with their experiences and expertise, and benefit from the existing
ones.
Teotonio R. de Souza
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Gonçalves collection of
the Goa University Library. Dr. Pratima Kamat who wrote a book on Goan
revolts (Farar Far) could also assist in tracing a picture of Dada Rane.
Teotonio R. de Souza
Date: Sun, 28 May 2006 02:36:18 -0400
From: dadasaheb rane [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Goanet
been campaigning for better information for workers from
the EU about their rights and employment terms and conditions, before they
arrive in the UK.
http://www.citizensadvice.org.uk/index/pressoffice/press_index/press-031118
htm
Teotonio R. de Souza
Date: Mon, 15 May 2006 17:39:08
Iran! Or for that matter about the entente cordiale between Bush and
Manmohan, taking India out of Iranian gas supply. Is perhaps any threat of
fatwa discouraging the Goanetters from venturing with «satanic verses»? Does
anyone know if there are Goans in Iran?
Teotonio R. de Souza
May I know more about Alex D'Souza? Was not Alfred D'Souza, the late Jesuit
director of ISI, New Delhi, and former Editor of Social Action in
Afghanistran to survey the possibilities of Jesuit work there? I thought the
Indian Jesuits were already there.
India has its mission of recovery in
-democratic Portugal and are unable to discuss rationally in a public
forum.
Salazar's regime had declared too many bonafide citizens as traitors!
Teotonio R. de Souza
From: Henrique Salles da Fonseca [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Goanet] Re: Ex-colonial citizens have right to full
Here goes an abstract in English of a text in Portuguese to appear in the
forthcoming issue of the Journal «Babilónia» of the Department of Culture,
Languages and Translations, of the Lusophone University of Humanities and
Technologies, Lisbon. The past issues of the Journal may be read on-line
Responding further to Cornel's question on this matter I must say that
several Goan families of «landed aristocracy» migrated to British India to
seek refuge against political persecutions in Goa during the
«liberal-constitutional» elections and in Bardez also due to alleged support
of the
http://www.correiodamanha.pt/noticia.asp?id=196897idselect=9idCanal=9p=94
A report in todays Portuguese morning daily «Correio da Manha»
On 14 Dec. 1961, after many diplomatic tentatives, the Indian PM Nehru was
demanding that Portugal should leave Goa, Daman and Diu. The troop
in miserable conditions even by standards of
some third world countries? The nationalists and pseudo-nationalists of
Portugal should rather devote their intelligence and efforts to uplifting of
these less fortunate citizens of Portugal, rather than feed them with false
patriotism.
Teotonio R. de Souza
Dear Cornel,
(1) Many joined seminaries and nunneries in Goa and elsewhere in India as a
good path of social mobility. (2) It was a way of gaining good education
without much cost in the days of poor family resources under the Portuguese
dispensation.
(3) The priests and nuns had to
The former Portuguese President, Jorge Sampaio, expressed doubts if the
Canadian authorities apply same rules to all illegal immigrants, or are
discriminating against the Portuguese. The local daily PUBLICO also reported
that the Portuguese foreign minister visiting Canada to resolve the crisis
According to the Portuguese daily Correio da Manhã (link below) about 15
to 22,000 Portuguese have been declared illegal immigrants in Canada. They
are being deported systematically and complain of no help from the
Portuguese authorities. Many of them seem to have discounted from their
hard-won
Maria Manuel Stocker, *Xeque-mate a Goa*, Lisboa, Temas Debates,
2005, pp. 288
*
M.M.Stocker recounts the fall of Portuguese regime in Goa in 1961,
presenting critically the diplomatic and military strategies adopted
by Salazar. Points to his success in forcing India to stain
nationality should be able
to follow all possible information in the authoritative sites in Portuguese
language and be able to correspond in Portuguese!
Teotonio R. de Souza
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From: Bonefacio Lopes [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Goanet] PORTUGUESE PASSPORT
To: goanet
Foundations and other bodies who seek cultural collaboration with India
(particularly in Goa) to exercise pressure upon their own Government to give
priority to this issue.
Teotonio R. de Souza
Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2006 20:25:09 -0500
From: Bonefacio Lopes [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Teotonio R. de Souza
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I have been asked by some interested parties in Portugal how many major
and notable other museums would be there in Goa today, and if this
reflects any change in the situation after Goa's liberation in 1961.
Could any
respectively ) as he referred to them affectionately during our
conversations.
For a glimpse of the first novel of Dr Orlando da Costa please read:
http://histheory.tripod.com/chsix.pdf
Teotonio R. de Souza
Since when did the vultures began praying?
It is said humorously of the good Irish Catholics that they pray on their
knees and upon their neighbours! It is a pun on pray and prey!
Teotonio
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I know who should be with the atheists, George... the dyslexic animal lovers
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of Porto back from exile. It looks as if I am not the only one who forgot
about such interesting or curious facets of D. Jose Costa Nunes.
Teotonio R. de Souza
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. I shall end quoting JCA's dedication of his first book
*Jesuit Letters and Indian History* :+To my mother, an assiduous reader of
Jesuit letters of no historical value;! I shall continue reading JCA's letters
with their more than historical value!
Teotonio R. de Souza
with the library collections of the Jesuits in Lisbon. What has
Henrique Salles de Fonseca found there of particular usefulness for
studying the Inquisition of Goa? Published documentation which is available
in many other collections as well?
Teotonio R. de Souza
there is any other dictionary by the same author which is
not known to me.
Teotonio R. de Souza
Date: Wed, 7 Sep 2005 14:04:56 +0100 (BST)
From: godfrey gonsalves [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Goanet] MATHANY SALDANHA exposes BHEMBRE's secular
credentials
are
justified? Is it only a keyboard problem? Or are apocriphal texts being
posted in his name?
Teotonio R. de Souza
link could help
understanding this problem better.
http://www.noticiaslusofonas.com/view
php?load=arcviewarticle=11186catogory=Manchete
Teotonio R. de Souza
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Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2005 20:39:44 +0530
From: Vidyadhar Gadgil [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Goanet] Re: Roman
?
Teotonio R. de Souza
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Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 02:02:57 -0400
From: jerry fernandes [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: goanet@goanet.org
Subject: [Goanet]Goa Freedom Fighter Dr Wilfred de Sousa, Dy. Chief
Reply-To: goanet@goanet.org
.
What about the present
Could Bernado or any other goanetter tell us whom we should ask to correct
and defend the Gospels against its blatant distortions and misuse in the
same forum and its website mentioned below? That too can endanger all
Christians in Goa and elsewhere in India. It is the Hindunet's defintion of
FAIR
attributed to me) is sheer non-sense! What a dirty and cynical way of
promoting Hinduism!
Teotonio R. de Souza
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From: Sachin Phadte [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: goanet@goanet.org
Date: Fri, 03 Jun 2005 10:24:02 +0530
Subject: [Goanet]Re: Historian on Goa Inquisition
of
misusing Goanet?
--- Teotonio R. de Souza [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
If the information quoted by you is attributed to
me, I can only say that it is a malicious fabrication
of someone.
Teotoniobab/Sachin,
This garbage has been strewn all over the net by
various Hindu
Souza's publications
containing the quoted or misquoted information. I am sending this posting to
Goanet Administration to do the needful for checking this sort of a novel
form of misusing Goanet.
Teotonio R. de Souza
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From: Sachin Phadte [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: goanet
is an expression of such a religion from
desert! Islamic jihad and Christian crusades continued this trend.
Teotonio R. de Souza
of modern
physics. Independently from these scientific contributions, Einstein was an
admirer of Gandhi. Perhaps more than of Tagore.
I would appreciate any comments from our goanetters
Teotonio R. de Souza
(Consult the writings of
Ricardo Micael Telles in *Oriente Português* for more details). Consult
also Goanet archives: http://www.goanet
org/pipermail/goanet-news/2004-February/000552.html
Teotonio R. de Souza
and advocates? I think that Salgãocar law college
authorities could have taken such initiatives.
Teotonio R. de Souza
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*2.* The history of Portuguese law in India has yet to be written,
and, more particularly, the history of Portuguese law /in partibus
orientalium
As reported by *Diário Digital / Lusa*, 27/04/2005 only 3 out of every 10
Portuguese utilize the net. This is seen as an indicator of a society still
making a slow transition to the fast emerging cyberworld. Announcing the
presentation of a research study on this theme on coming Thursday in
Would any goanetter, conversant with philosphical transations, indicate any
texts or web sites where I could read Asian / Indian critique of Sarte and
Einstein? I shall be thankful if these indications could be sent to my
personal e-mail.
Teotonio R. de Souza
http
!
Teotonio R. de Souza
em Goa, Dra. Fatima Grancias. Poderá
contactá-la na morada fatimgra at sancharnet.in
Com os melhores cumprimentos,
Teotonio R. de Souza
http://campussocial.ulusofona.pt/
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Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 17:39:24 -0400
From: MARIA GUIOMAR LIMA [EMAIL PROTECTED
could enlighten us further.
Teotonio R. de Souza
I have heard a couple of grey East African parrots uttering some Konknni
phrases in Goa! But our Goan dogs (domestic and stray ones) have not yet
succeeded in barking a single sound in Konknni. Do they bark at the Konknne
and non-Konknne alike? Which of these pets would be more Goan?
a *Christian
tantrism*!
Teotonio R. de Souza
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Santosh Helekar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Does the Catholic Church still not respect the democratic
right to dissent? Is this a mark of righteousness as the above poster seem
to imply? Did Anthony de Mello commit any crime
After reading Mario Goveia's response to Bernado, I cannot resist sharing
the core of a private e-mail message I received with reference to the caste
discussion on the goanet. Is it perhaps driving a stake deep into the heart
of caste debate?
don´t you believe this hanky-panky anti-caste
some dent in this system.
Teotonio R. de Souza
Cip wrote:
..
It is really heartening to note that Mahanth Sudhir Pujari has initiated a
process to undo the 75-year-old mistake and has decided to adopt 25 Dalit
students on behalf of Janasthan Peeth. He
their responsibility.
Please speak for yourself, and I shall see if I have any answers. I do not
claim to represent anyone else except myself.
Teotonio R. de Souza
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Antonio Menezes
Wed, 02 Mar 2005 04:26:03 -0800
Mr. Teotonio R. de Souza writes: ''could each
-in-ranks? This would apply
to Hindus and their Goan Catholic inheritors.
Teotonio R. de Souza
From: Santosh Helekar [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Goanet] Caste and Gender Preference
To: goanet@goanet.org
Reply-To: goanet@goanet.org
--- George Pinto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote
and shocking finish
, it implies that you have been following it much better than many of us!
You and other exhausted readers you mentioned should promptly start a more
interesting thread which may not lead to any fresh roller coaster impact!
Teotonio R. de Souza
. That is how we need to move.
Teotonio R. de Souza
---
Teotonio R. de Souza [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Dear Vidyadhar,
As I had mentioned in an earlier
posting, it is not
difficult to trace the caste in Goa if we know the
surname and the original
the
power of his ressurection, not in the stakes invented by Catholic
Christianity.
Teotonio R. de Souza
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Mon, 28 Feb 2005 19:10:27 -0800
Teotonio,
Through the fog of all that feni it is beginning to
dawn on me that we may be on the same page. However,
while
in the larger world.
With best wishes to you in your tanning programme.
Teotonio R. de Souza
--
Mario Goveia
Mon, 28 Feb 2005 00:25:26 -0800
I am trying hard to work on my tan in Goa, Pune and
Mumbai, and to make a dent in the total
is
incomplete. It should read:
Vigaracho sermanv uniek nhoi.
Teotonio R. de Souza
Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2005 08:04:54 +0530
From: Vidyadhar Gadgil [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Goanet]Will the anti-casters identify themselves?
To: Goanet mails goanet
/chardde) goanet
campaigners will have an opportunity to welcome as in-laws persons known
in the society to belong to low-castes or outcastes. Otherwise, as our
Goan saying goes: Vigarache sermanv uniek!
Teotonio R. de Souza
--
Dear Mervyn
I like your reply! It implies a sense of humour and sounds less tragic than
one I received from someone who did not respond to me but to his own
assumptions! No debate can be maintained with persons who reveal a disturbed
state of mind and pretend that being catholics gives them the
my mistaking Abilio for Abel.
Bom fim de semana.
Teotonio R. de Souza
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Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2005 16:53:53 -0500
From: Jorge/Livia de Abreu Noronha [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: goanet@goanet.org
Subject: [Goanet]Re: New research on * Goan MP's in the Portuguese
Parliament
I respect the blunt or polite refusal by those who do not wish to reveal
the caste label they have inherited. It is not very difficult though to find
it out with some effort and time that any research usually requires. Hence,
some time from now it could be possible to analyse this on-going
we could believe in the truly altruistic and humanistic goals of
this debate, even if Goanet may not save us from the caste system!
Teotonio R. de Souza
a published version would be useful.
Teotonio R. de Souza
From: Gilbert Lawrence [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: goanet@goanet.org
Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2005 12:30:52 -0500
Subject: [Goanet]RE: Goan MP's in the Portuguese Parliament
Reply-To: goanet@goanet.org
Hi Teotonio,
I would be more
inception in 1979 and
they are still continued (if I am not mistaken). What have you done for it?
Could we read any of your published texts in Portuguese please?
Teotonio R. de Souza
---
Bernado Colaco
Thu, 24 Feb 2005 20:06:33 -0800
Teotonio, I wonder what
Abel Fernandes, who
held power in the Evora muncipality during three decades till a couple of
years back. He belonged to the Communist party. I do not know of any other
who left a mark.
With kind regards
Teotonio R. de Souza
---
From: Gabriel de
) in such preference for one tone?! Real life is made of many
tones and many colours. Let us not divest it from its rich and colourful
diversity.
http:// www.geocities.com/Athens/Forum/1503/teo_publ.pdf
Teotonio R. de Souza
P.S. Please let me benefit from your knowledge and wisdom: Let me know where
exactly you
that the
exposure of Goans to western political ideas and institutions much earlier
than the rest of India has had its positive value and prepared Goans to face
globalization with much confidence and success.
Teotonio R. de Souza
R. de Souza
The kind of speculations below represent much of the historical divagations
on Goanet! I shall be grateful if someone could provide any documentation
earlier than the closing years of the first quarter of the 17th century for
the presence of caju in Goa!
Teotonio R. de Souza
employing 389 local
teachers and 71 foreigners. They had a total of 8890 pupils! That meant 22
times more than those who frequented the Portuguese lyceum!
This much should suffice for Pedro Kaul to re-think his nostalgia and the
popularity of English language among the Goans.
Teotonio R. de Souza
Please read Dr. Froilano de Melo instead of Alfredo de Melo in my earlier
posting on this subject.
Thank you.
Teotonio R. de Souza
more than those who frequented the Portuguese lyceum!
This much should suffice for Pedro Kaul to re-think his nostalgia and the
popularity of English language among the Goans.
Teotonio R. de Souza
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Forum/1503/lusof_goa.html
Gabe.
Wimbledon - London
England
excellence, and as Father of Goan Nationalism. All of us suffer from
incoherences due to varied and contradictory experiences in our lives!
History writing should also acknowledge them and report the contradictions.
That is what has been called as history with warts and all.
Teotonio R. de Souza
://www.mail-archive.com/goa-research-net@goacom.com/maillist.html
Goa Research Net thanks Dr. Nandakumar for this privileged offer.
Teotonio R. de Souza
I wish all the goanetters all God's blessings for 2005.
Whatever the differences of views, we need to consider ourselves as Goans
and put up with our differences which could be helpful to make Goa richer.
We are many with many and different talents.
Teotonio R. de Souza
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not find any Goan
equivalent of VK Rajwade, GS Sardessai or JN Sarkar?
Teotonio R. de Souza
.
Teotonio R. de Souza
17th century! I wish and pray that nothing ill has
befallen our Jesuits and my dear old colleagues residing there today. Our
konkani writer Fr. Moreno de Sousa is one of them.
Teotonio R. de Souza
-khônkli* (a persistent and shrill cough)? What was the traditional
treatment?
Teotonio R. de Souza
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To commemorate 30 years of the April Revolution (1974) the Government of Portugal
handed over to its National Archives (Torre do Tombo) during an official ceremony
today (24th April) official records pertaining to the Salazar and Marcelo Caetano
regimes, covering the period 1938-1974. Those
Dom Francisco may not know of any Dom Miguel II in his family as the last
monarch of Portugal.
Possibly the reference is to D. Manuel II.
Teotonio R. de Souza
From: Jorge/Livia de Abreu Noronha
Subject: Re: [Goanet]09 APR 2004: GOACOM DAILY NEWS CLIPPINGS
Date: Sat, 10
This new faction came into existence among the St. Thomas Christians after
the famous Koonan Cross revolt of the Syro-Malabar Christians against the
impositions of the Portuguese Padroado on 3rd Jan 1653. The rebellion took
place when the Portuguese tried to seize a Syrian Orthodox Prelate
cultural
symbols. These are not Goan Catholic diaspora creations!
Teotonio R. de Souza
---
William da Silva wrote:
What does Goa want to be its distinctive cultural heritage? As if it were an
independent nation? There is lurking in some Diaspora nostalgia for Goa and
its culture
I am thankful to Leão Fernandes for his input. What about tal'le, peddve,
bangdde, kormott and kalchi koddi in fish-loving Goa?
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What would most Goans, of whichever religious community, accept as their
common cultural symbol or symbols? Each community can also think of its own
cultural symbol. But what would unite all as Goans?
Teotonio R. de Souza
, if they generally
follow a similar pattern.
Teotonio R. de Souza
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From: Sachin Phadte
Subject: [Goanet]Church over Temple
Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2004 23:12:33 -0800
..asks whether the churches were built on the EXACT spot where the temples
stood. I do not know for a fact
Last week's EXPRESSO weely of Lisbon had it on p.22 that Portugal loses its
saint for Spain, referring to the forthcoming plans for commemorating 500
years of the birth of St. Francis Xavier. Spain is planning large-scale
commemorations of its Navarra-born saint, while there seem to be no clear
Não devias ter casado (Loiola Pereira)
or
Não devias ter-te casado (Paulo Colaço-Dias)
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, or thousand times continue to mean as many times..
, and Loiola Pereira's (cem vezes) or Jorge Abreu's (mil vezes) are as good
as my tantas vezes que for necessário.
Teotonio R. de Souza
Frederick Noronha wrote on March 04, in a response to Paulo Colaco Dias:
I say again -- instead
From: Frederick Noronha (FN) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Goanet]Translation into Portuguese
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Could some kind soul give me a spoken translation (not a literal one) of
the following lines into Portuguese? I'd be grateful. Thanks! FN
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Suknni zai?
Panzrem kadd,
Zaddam lai!
...
It is better than having dar naxil'lem panzrem!
Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2004 20:05:51 -0800 (PST)
From: lino dourado [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Goanet]Ek Kovita: Dar Naxil'lem Pinjrem?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Dear Fernando,
Your posting below on goanet showed just gibberish! What sort of a file was
that? It may require far more than the lenten fasts to penetrate its
mysteries!
Besides, my e-mail address has neither *charm* nor *telepac* in it. Please
do not overload the cyberspace! They then rebound
If I am not mistaken, Dr. JC Almeida did his doctorate in Lisbon at the
Instituto Técnico, and returned to Goa just in time to be integrated into
the Indian Administrative Service. I do not know how he got himself
recognised in the IAS, but I have known him as a very intelligent and
efficient
Congrats Basilio Magno for your patient work in teaching the goanet English
speakers some simple ways of learning Konknni in roman script.
One of the situations in which most toddlers in Konknni are bowled clean is
the translation of I and me. For instance, why mhaka zai and not hanv
zai (= I
I agree perfectly with the posting below by George Pinto. There is much done
and being done on the subject. Gilbert should check the existing published
material. It is not sufficient to ask others to check them for him.
I am thankful to Gilbert Lawrence for his invitation to coordinate. I wish
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