Hi,
I need to schedule the execution of 26 jobs.
This has to happen such that the 2nd job should start after the
successful execution of the 1st job, the 3rd after the 2nd and so on.
Moreover the output of 1st job is the input to the 2nd job.
How do I accomplish this using Clist?
Any
Hi all,
We used an Clist/edit marco to custmised some keyword. To run the clist, we
just enter the clist name on the command line while in ISPF editing a PDS
member.
The Clist is just like below:
--
ISREDIT MACRO
ISREDIT C
From what you've described it appears that this transaction can be divided up
into a certain amount of CPU time to process the transaction and then an
amount used to drive/manage the I/O. If that's the case, and the CPU consumed
for the transaction is relatively constant, you can approximate
Hi Lizette,
Your right.. i think it's due to my inexperience in Z/OS.
The answers are
1. Z/OS 1.4
2. RACF
3. I must test a control that says: Ensure that the creation / deletion of
all system objects is logged.
Until now I consider datasets and TCP connections, for both systems
objects I've the
Ted,
A general technique I have used successfully to estimate the CPU usage (or
instruction path length) of a black box piece of code is as follows:
(1) Measure the resource usage of the standard job - call this R1
(2) Modify the job (in the case your COBOL program) to call the black box
Esteemed listers
I'd like to modify our Storage Groups structure to react quickly if the SG
is in shortage of space.
We want to create some SG with many volumes (say 100) defined but only few
(say 20) having a real DASD allocated, the other should be only entries in
SG. I did it in other shops
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 04/11/2006
at 11:55 AM, Cathy Taddei [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
Aaron, I don't post here often, but I want you to know that z/OS
Sysprogging is not a world of men with grey beards and hairy chests.
Although we are definitely in the minority, there are plenty of
female
In [EMAIL PROTECTED],
on 04/11/2006
at 12:00 AM, Ted MacNEIL [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
I was giving 'reasonable' substitutes, ie: what it does.
Print is *not* what it does. It catenates its inputs into standard
output, and in this case standard output was a pipe. The function of
that cat was a
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 04/12/2006
at 08:14 AM, Shane [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
I place it right up there with the TSO line mode edit command - when
you have a *really* broken install, you need a tool of last resort.
Other than being line mode, TSO EDIT is a *lot* more user friendly
than vi.
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 04/11/2006
at 09:43 AM, (IBM Mainframe Discussion List) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
said:
I also believe that VSAM uses EXCPVR,
AFAIK it uses STARTIO, which has a shorter path length than EXCP or
even EXCPVR.
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ISO
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Esteemed listers
I'd like to modify our Storage Groups structure to react quickly if the SG
is in shortage of space.
We want to create some SG with many volumes (say 100) defined but only few
(say 20) having a real DASD
Print is *not* what it does.
These arguments would be more interesting if you read my post(s).
I originally said:
cat -- list ...
Where was the word PRINT?
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reasonably competent with Perl, and I have looked
On 11 Apr 2006 04:49:30 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Timothy Sipples) wrote:
Version 6.1 announced today. Details here:
http://www.ibm.com/common/ssi/rep_ca/7/897/ENUS206-077/ENUS206-077.PDF
GA date is June 30, 2006. I'm still quickly reading through the
announcement,
On 10 Apr 2006 10:33:57 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ed Gould) wrote:
much snipped
I believe in the context of the original writer that the JES exit(s)
were either complex or change was needed to accommodate the change in
JES2 levels. Some one spoke about the
The 'SEARCH ALL' APARs PK15432 and PK16765 have closed with PTFs
available.
Best Regards,
Sam Knutson, GEICO
Performance and Availability Management
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(office) 301.986.3574
IBM: I Bring Madness
Really Jim?
You surprise me.
BTW, Release 40 of REVIEW should be out in a week or two.
:)
GP
Jim Marshall wrote:
Snippage.
You can thank Bill Godfrey for getting everyone
started in many more utlities besides LISTPDS.
Jim Marshall
Rashmi Nijaguni Mogali wrote:
Hi,
I need to schedule the execution of 26 jobs.
This has to happen such that the 2nd job should start after the
successful execution of the 1st job, the 3rd after the 2nd and so on.
Moreover the output of 1st job is the input to the 2nd job.
How do I
A. Harry Williams wrote:
Let's see if I can get this past Darren's filters this time.
From: A. Harry Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Organization: Marist College
Subject: Re: Kudos to IBM's promotion
X-LSVline1: On Tue, 11 Apr 2006 07:42:40 -0500 Mohammad Khan said:
On Tue, 11 Apr 2006
Hi All,
We are having discisisons regarding an optimal region size for our
standard batch processing.
Currently, we use region=0M for all of our batch jobs without any noticeable
problems.
Is this subparm useful anymore? it would appear that our system does not
care too much, but i am concerned
Timothy,
I don't see the SOD re: Apache in the referenced announcement. Can
you provide a link?
Thanks,
Kirk Wolf
On 4/11/06, Timothy Sipples [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Version 6.1 announced today. Details here:
http://www.ibm.com/common/ssi/rep_ca/7/897/ENUS206-077/ENUS206-077.PDF
GA date
our sysprogs discourage (prevent?) 0M on the belief (fact?) that if such a
job were to run-away and consume all available memoryon its way to
ebending, there would be no room to set up abend-related control blocks in
memory when it did abend - thus we are constrained to use 2047M
Chris
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Subject: Job scheduling
Hi,
I need to schedule the execution of 26 jobs.
This has to happen
I have been reading IBM-Main off and on for awhile and one of the
reoccurring concerns
is, of course, the phasing out of the mainframe at various shops. There
is one aspect of
this that, I think, has not been emphasized. This aspect was pointed out
in recent Wall
Street Journal column titled,
Could someone please inform me as to the end of support date for
z/OS 1.6 ??
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Last I saw, last column is service discontinued.
z/OS
Program Marketing Service
number VRMAnnounced Available withdrawn discontinued
5694-A01 1.07.0 2005/07/27 2005/09/30 2006/09* 2008/09*
5694-A01 1.06.0 2004/08/10 2004/09/24 2005/10/24 2007/09*
I´m afraid not, because it has not been announced yet.
Have a look at
http://www-306.ibm.com/software/info/supportlifecycle/index.html
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IBM Mainframe
http://www-03.ibm.com/servers/eserver/zseries/zos/support/zos_eos_dates.
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Behalf Of Raymond J. Slisz
Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2006 8:57 AM
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Subject: [IBM-MAIN] z/OS 1.6 End of
Yeha, that works on my Intel Linux systems, but on my VM-hosted ones, if things
are that broken, then I'm probably in 3270 mode and even vi doesn't work;
that's when I find myself trying to remember how to use ed.
Jon
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Eliminated. Heh. They couldn't resist it.
Jon
snip
IBM has quietly eliminated a patent it received on a method for determining
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One of the things I do for test purposes is use the following JCL at the
end of the job:
//STARTER EXEC PGM=IKJEFT01,DYNAMNBR=25,COND=(4,LT)
//SYSABEND DD SYSOUT=*
//SYSTSPRT DD SYSOUT=*
//SYSTSIN DD *
Page six of the referenced link, left side, bulleted item:
IBM currently intends to deliver the following items for
WebSphere Application Server for z/OS, V6.1 in a post
GA timeframe:
- 64-bit enablement for WebSphere Application
Server for z/OS
- A Web server for z/OS, powered by Apache for use
Workload Manager allows for the definitions of scheduling environments.
If you were to use JES2 (or JES3, I suppose) to issue MODIFY commands to the
WLM address space at particular times of the day to set the resource values,
you could create some semblance of a job scheduler. It does require you
Hi Kees
Actually I suspected it but some bosses were scared about having so many
sms volumes with PAVs.
Having many volumes defined tgo SMS even if not 'real' volumes gives me
more flexibility in managing space shortages.
Thank you very much
MAx Scarpa
Db2 sysprog
Actually I suspected it but some bosses were scared about having so many sms
volumes with PAVs.
SMS and PAV's are not connected (yet).
PAV's are based on device activity and I/O queuing.
Devices that are not SMS managed are still eligible for PAV's (EG: SPOOL).
And, you can (through the IODF)
In a message dated 4/12/2006 8:24:30 A.M. Central Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
In this case, two jobs are submitted simultaneously. We use
CA-Scheduler for production and other test job streams. I thought that
a scheduler was included with the operating system, but I am just
Blue Peter badges to Dave and Tom. It was a cock-up with the ISPTLIB
concatenation.
Thanks chaps.
Jim McAlpine
On 4/11/06, Thomas Conley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm configuring File Manager for DB2 and I want to remove a particular
option from a panel so some users can't see it. The
On Tue, 11 Apr 2006, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote:
Other than being line mode, TSO EDIT is a *lot* more user friendly
than vi. But if you're working on multiple Unix systems, it's useful
to know an editor that will always be there.
Then there are the people who actually like the thing. De
In a message dated 4/11/2006 10:46:19 P.M. Central Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Universities that don't place graduates in jobs don't stay in business long.
If your place of employment cares about zSeries skills, it is important
to make that known to local colleges and
Darren Evans-Young wrote:
[...]
vi used to be the only editor included on standard Unix installations.
Now, the vendors include other editors. However, if you have to boot from
the CD to recover a system in single user mode, vi is usually the only
editor available. You better know if you need to
Hi,
A recent post posed the question:
I need to schedule the execution of 26 jobs.
This has to happen such that the 2nd job should start after the successful
execution of the 1st job, the 3rd after the 2nd and so on.
Moreover the output of 1st job is the input to the 2nd job.
How do I
When I was in support many years ago, many times customers would call asking
us about an S40D or S0DC abends - it just went away! (For the peanut
gallery, the problem is that there is no more left in below-the-line private
to acquire LSQA for the RTM control blocks.)
I've lost track of the
On Wed, 12 Apr 2006, Ed Finnell wrote:
So the exposure starts much younger and is continuous 'til they get to
'higher ed'. Now who's gonna opt for JCL and TSO after they've
been ICON'd and auto updated for a decade? The CS departments dropped ALC
and COBOL at least 12 years in favor of C++,
I think you hit the nail on the head here Steve. I volunteer to help with
Universities in Arizona for the IBM Academic Initiative. 2 of the 3
Universities have been approached in Arizona and the heads of the CS
departments have stopped IBM in their tracks saying mainframes are not a
've lost track of the times I've told people why 0M is a bad idea for a
server-type program, and in general is a bad idea.
IBM has shipped 0M for 'server-types', for years.
VTAM, NETVIEW, IMS, DB2, MQ-Series, to name a few.
I don't have a problem with that.
Where I have a problem is with
I have a SAF call in IEFUSI, you get over 256M if you DESERVE it.
I think you can address the under 16M vs. 0M limit in IEFUSI as well, I
think you could set the region size to a suitable value less than
GDAPVTSZ.
-Original Message-
snip
I don't have a problem with that.
Where I
andy corpes wrote:
Hi All,
We are having discisisons regarding an optimal region size for our
standard batch processing.
Currently, we use region=0M for all of our batch jobs without any noticeable
problems.
IMHO it's like lack of fuse in a circuit. Fuse is not needed ...unless
something
In a message dated 4/12/2006 10:37:48 A.M. Central Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
senior level programmers to do entry level jobs. IBM is actively
soliciting Universities to try to introduce more curriculum. So hopefully
its moving in the right direction. Unfortunately, its an
Justin,
That is interesting to hear! I just graduated from U of AZ last year
and ran into the exact same problems - they have no idea what power the
mainframe has and think it is something that won't have importance in
the future. Everyone thought I was pretty crazy for wanting to pursue a
If your system is not set up to deal with very large address spaces, a
malfunctioning task can cause you some serious problems. On the other
hand, if you are not set up for large address spaces, you could be
underutilizing you main storage and hurting overall throughput. Some
argue that that is a
I had the same problem at this site a month ago. My Low and OK
thresholds for frame stealing were already set at 4000,4500. I doubted
that adding a few hundred more to the OK threshold would make a
difference.
What I found was that all of the batch jobs using up memory are running
SyncSort's
Wait a minute, I thought the State of Colorado doesn't have mainframes anymore!
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 4/12/2006 12:24:35 PM
I had the same problem at this site a month ago. My Low and OK
thresholds for frame stealing were already set at 4000,4500. I doubted
that adding a few hundred more to the
Justin Eastman wrote:
I think you hit the nail on the head here Steve. I volunteer to help with
Universities in Arizona for the IBM Academic Initiative. 2 of the 3
Universities have been approached in Arizona and the heads of the CS
departments have stopped IBM in their tracks saying
Kristine Harper wrote:
Justin,
That is interesting to hear! I just graduated from U of AZ last year
and ran into the exact same problems - they have no idea what power the
mainframe has and think it is something that won't have importance in
the future. Everyone thought I was pretty crazy for
This is a code issue. I'm trying
to do something, and its not working, and I need some help from someone
who knows LDAP in z/OS 1.6. Here is a statement of my problem. By
the way, I am cloning an existing system, one that I wrote, to come up
with a similar system to achieve a similar result, an
From: Warner Mach [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I have been reading IBM-Main off and on for awhile and one of the
reoccurring concerns
is, of course, the phasing out of the mainframe at various shops.
Very recently I've been talking to two different people at two different
shops who both share a similar
But you have to have a two-pronged approach. It's nice
to have the universities offer z/OS-related training,
but you (IBM) still need to win the hearts and minds
of young techies and managers back to the values of the
platform, or they will never select or sustain it.
We've discussed this to
Our tech people can't find the source of this problem and I am looking for
any guesses you might have.
Sysplex in question has 11 lpars on 5 CECs
zOS 1.4 with 1.7 being tested. Sometimes this summer some of the lpars in
this plex will be running 1.7 if all goes well. (So far it hasn't.)
I
Dave Salt wrote:
From: Warner Mach [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I have been reading IBM-Main off and on for awhile and one of the
reoccurring concerns
is, of course, the phasing out of the mainframe at various shops.
Very recently I've been talking to two different people at two different
shops who
Evil according to a small shop!
I work with a younger staff that has played with computers since birth.
My boss who is not yet thirty (I'm over thirty) can buy 36 4 processor
servers a quarter for what we pay in software costs alone for the mainframe.
I am a small shop 1 CPU, 1 chip, small
Does anyone know when SHARE - Baltimore registration will be available? I want
to get in early to assure a piece of the education budget.
Steve
==
Please access the attached hyperlink for an important electronic
Are you SURE that your batch job on LPAR 1 is the problem? That is, are you
sure there is not some other factor outside of what you have described here?
Is it possible something else is deleting or renaming C?
The reason I ask is that it seems to me that even if you totally dropped the
ENQs the
What about factoring in personnel costs? 8 x salary for servers versus 1 x
salary for mainframe seems to be an obvious arguing point.
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Sent: Wednesday April 12 2006 11:09
To:
On 2006-04-11 at 15:19, Lester, Bob [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote
about Space in MB? to IBM-Main:
I have a need to produce a listing (via batch) of MVS datasets by
dataset pattern. I'd like 1 line per dsname with the space used
expressed in GB instead of cylinders,tracks,blocks, etc.
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Evil according to a small shop!
I work with a younger staff that has
Replies in [[ ]]
IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU wrote on 04/12/2006
02:11:13 PM:
Are you SURE that your batch job on LPAR 1 is the problem? That is, are
you
sure there is not some other factor outside of what you have described
here?
Is it possible something else is
I've searched all the IBM sites I can get to on this with no luck. I can't
shake the feeling that we've done something stupid here ourselves.
We're running z/OS 1.6 and trying to run an C++ app compiled under that
level of z/OS UNIX with the TEST/ parm and we get 3 consecutive B00
abends and
Steve,
I've contacted the 2 people off list and forwarded your email to them. I've
explained the situation, and left it up to them whether they want to contact
you or not. I hope they do, but of course it's up to them and their
management. Sometimes, management isn't too keen to have their Oops
Hi Mohammed,
You recent contributes to the Re: Kudos to IBM's promotion to the effect that
..The poster child of IBM education initiative, Marist College,
does not even reply to emails, the phone number listed on the web page either
does not work or leads to a fax machine...
I cannot comment
Dave Salt wrote:
Steve,
I've contacted the 2 people off list and forwarded your email to them. I've
explained the situation, and left it up to them whether they want to
contact you or not.
Absolutely. That's terrific. Thanks.
I hope they do, but of course it's up to them and their
On Wed, 12 Apr 2006 19:55:03 +0100 Terry Sambrooks said:
Hi Mohammed,
You recent contributes to the Re: Kudos to IBM's promotion to the effect
that ..The poster child of IBM education initiative, Marist College,
does not even reply to emails, the phone number listed on the web page either
does
There have been some good discussions in the past which suggest that the
DFP access methods don't use STARTIO directly. Those few dedicated
vivisectionists of I/O working at ISVs and the IBM folks working in
DFSMSdfp z/OS IOS can talk about this with some authority but with OCO
and withdrawal of
ABEND40D, ABEND0F9, ... are what you can get running REGION=0M without
any intervention by IEFUSI so your systems programmers are right. This
has been discussed at length before search terms REGION and IEFUSI will
get you tons of hits in the archives. We use an IEFUSI I updated from
one Mike
In a message dated 4/12/2006 12:57:28 P.M. Central Standard Time,
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Yup. Keep 'em coming, y'all.
Did the boothill website die from lack of use or lack of inclination?
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In a message dated 4/12/2006 1:09:58 P.M. Central Standard Time,
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Things run well on the server side for a fraction of the cost so how can I
defend the mainframe in our environment.
Cost per butt?
You can't. PC folks lack a frame of reference and tend to ignore
significant parts of the TCO.
Server farms are entry level and are cost effective for that mission.
However, as the load grows past some point, the TCO of the server farm
begins to skyrocket. The MF costs also rise, but at a rate
ftp://phoenixsoftware.com/pub/demo/JES3_White_Paper.pdf
A point Ed makes very well in his white paper worth reading even for
JES2 folks BTW.
Thanks, Sam
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Sent: Wednesday, April 12,
CLISTs belong in SYSPROC, not SYSEXEC. (REXX's can go in either.)
You can change the SYSEXEC/SYSPROC allocation after logon with the ALLOCATE
command. This will allow your macro to be in any library you like.
You can also use the ALTLIB command to set up a temporary library that
Subject:May 3 IBM Webcast - The IBM System z(tm): Rethinking the Role of the
Mainframe
Cross-posted to IBMVM,IBM-MAIN,and LINUX listservs for your reading pleasure
Date:Wednesday, May 3, 2006
Time: 2:00pm - 3:30pm EDT
Register: http://www.ibm.com/systems/z/2006
This webcast looks to
So, it seems that this package is used to perform some sort of computation
based on zip codes, or something along those lines. If this is the
primary (or part of) application on this CICS region, then it's quite
conceivable that during a peak period, the region is, in effect, doing a
lot of
It is not just the low cost of entry but also the cost of change.
The way technology is changing it is cheap to change to double the
technology in two years.
When you add another processor to a sun box the only cost is the additional
processor. No software increase and no license changes.
Is it possible that someone isn't using the front-end?
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Things run well on the server side for a fraction of the cost so how can I
defend the mainframe in our environment.
How many users in the server environment?
How many support personell?
Ditto (both) for the mainframe?
Compare contrast.
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[ snip ]
Last upgrade in my small shop cost for just ISV software was
$300,000 in just upgrade fees. I didn't need to change one
piece of code. That's hard to defend.
To put it bluntly, it's
give you the value in Kb (or KiBi for the purists)
Actually on disk it's KB.
In memory, it's KiBi.
(Also your replyto is set, so I had to over-ride to get to IBM-Main)
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On a few of our unix boxes, we actually have ISPF installed for a few
crippled mainframers who have to do work on unix. Personally, I feel
*when in Rome, ...*
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In a message dated 4/12/2006 5:46:05 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
AFAIK it uses STARTIO, which has a shorter path length than EXCP or
even EXCPVR.
You're right. VSAM is officially defined as an IOS Driver in the IOSB DSECT
in the Driver ID field. Therefore VSAM
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It is not just the low cost of entry but also the cost of change.
The way
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Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2006 3:31 PM
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Subject: Re: Fw: Anquish of JCL (Was: Migrating me from
linux/bsd to zOS)
On a few of our unix
No definitive answers by a long shot but another coupla straws to
consider grasping at.
-
On 2006-04-11 at 15:29, Ted MacNEIL [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote
about re: Cics Transaction I/O computation to IBM-Main:
[snip]
There is no contention unless you consider 2000 I/O's contentious.
OMEGAMON
I just pulled this from one of our CICS transactions:
Overall Elapsed time: 4.109s
*---·*
| Dispatch time . . . : 0.453s| Suspend time . . . . . . : 3.656s|
|
In
[EMAIL PROTECTED],
on 04/12/2006
at 11:04 AM, Knutson, Sam [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
There have been some good discussions in the past which suggest that
the DFP access methods don't use STARTIO directly.
Which DFP access methods? There's not much of a code overlap between
[B|D|I|Q]SAM and
Semi-LDAP rookie here(z/OS 1.4). Don't you have to say which objectclasses you
need any time you're adding a new record.
Does it work if you include the
objectclass=top
objectclass=OnCallNotes
lines in your LDIF file when adding the NoteNumber=6 record?
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From: Chase, John [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Last upgrade in my small shop cost for just ISV software was
$300,000 in just upgrade fees. I didn't need to change one
piece of code. That's hard to defend.
To put it bluntly, it's indefensible.
-jc-
Gouging by ISV's is a large part of the reason
On Wed, 2006-04-12 at 15:47 -0500, McKown, John wrote:
Well, if we're going to be off-topic, I've just discovered kate on my
Linux system.
The spark to start a (yet another) KDE vs. Gnome flame-war ???.
Here of all places, in the land of (disappearing ???) Dinos ...
Shane ...
I know of at least one ISV that charges a remarkably low flat rate for all of
their software, regardless of size or speed of mainframe.
IBM does (did?) that for NOTES and (IIRC) WebSphere.
The cost was per CPU, whether stand-alone, or in a multi-processor
configuration.
This was after NALC and
We ran into a program that was compiled and executed in a COBOL2
environment successfully. When we re-compiled and executed the program
with Enterprise COBOL, it returned a S0C4 abend (rc4). The load module
is a combination of COBOL and assembler code. Anyone know if this is a
COBOL issue or LE?
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 04/12/2006
at 04:39 PM, R.S. [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
Presonally I prefer ed, because I can work with it.
vi includes ed.
I cannot use vi. I use computers for years, people say, I'm not
idiot.
I would be the last person to defend vi[1], but an awful lot of people
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on
04/12/2006
at 12:00 AM, Ted MacNEIL [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
I originally said:
cat -- list ...
Okay, then list is not what it does.
Where was the word PRINT?
Print is usually synonymous with list in DP circles, and since the
statement is wrong either way, ...
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In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 04/11/2006
at 07:52 PM, Ed Gould [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
Never heard of ASI.. is that like Palm Beach computing?
West Palm Beach. They're the outfit that used to sell an extremely
simple, but useful, piece of hardware called FileGard.
The copy command would have to
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