Re: can HCD dynamic delete a device if (it is not defined as dynamic)

2009-06-04 Thread Field, Alan C.
But some devices, such as BSC do not support dynamic in which case you need to IPL with the IODF that excludes these devices. What is the device type of 0161? - Original Message - From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent:

Re: can HCD dynamic delete a device if (it is not defined as dynamic)

2009-06-04 Thread Tommy Tsui
0161 is a return code from HCD...yes some of device type = 3286 does not support the dymanic delete On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 2:18 PM, Field, Alan C.alan.c.fi...@supervalu.com wrote: But some devices, such as BSC do not support dynamic in which case you need to IPL with the IODF that excludes

Re: Help on IEBEDIT Utility

2009-06-04 Thread SUBSCRIBE vignesh
Is there any other way , where i can include all the statements from the JOB (JOB, PROCLIB, INLCUDE and SET etc ) in the new edited job? IEBEDIT is not going to work on PROC's as well , as they dont contain a JOB statement ! My actual requirement is to do a selective omission of particular

Re: strange codepage issue in ISPF

2009-06-04 Thread Tidy, David (D)
I believe that x'4D' and x'5D' are the CP1047 standard brackets. (x'AD' and x'BD' are square brackets). I looked on http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/infocenter/pcomhelp/v5r9/index.jsp?topic=/ com.ibm.pcomm.doc/reference/html/hcp_reference27.htm which seems to confirm that. I changed my code page in

Re: Help on IEBEDIT Utility

2009-06-04 Thread Terry Sambrooks
Hi, With regards to Is there any other way , where i can include all the statements from the JOB (JOB, PROCLIB, INLCUDE and SET etc ) in the new edited job? IEBEDIT is not going to work on PROC's as well , as they dont contain a JOB statement ! My actual requirement is to do a selective

Re: Why are z/OS people reluctant to use z/OS UNIX?

2009-06-04 Thread Shane
On Thu, 2009-06-04 at 00:43 -0500, Barbara Nitz wrote: c) Don't even get me started on Java applications running on z/OS. In fairness, it should be noted that java is a pox in _all_ environments. And now that Larry E has added it as another (no doubt) nice little future revenue earner, things

Re: Global mirroring

2009-06-04 Thread Terry Draper
We have synchronous from A to B and asynchronous from A to C. Sounds just what you want to do. Terry Draper zSeries Performance Consultant w...@btopenworld.com mobile:  +966 556730876 --- On Tue, 2/6/09, Michael Saraco michael.sar...@baer-consulting.com wrote: From: Michael Saraco

Security problem with SMTP

2009-06-04 Thread Jorge Garcia
Hello: We need to send a STC sysout by SMTP and we leave this sysout in Q class in the spool (the class isn't important). When the SMTP STC try to process this sysout this message appears: $HASP186 HZSPRINT OUTGRP=2.1.1 NOT SELECTED BY STC08510/SMTP.SMTP DUE 721

WLM Service Class assignment Order

2009-06-04 Thread Jacky Bright
Can anyone tell me how WLM decides which service class to assign to CICS Subsystem ? I have following Classification Rules defined in system. For the type CICS following are the entries : Qualifier Qualifier Starting Service Report # type name position Class

Re: Smpe batch jcl question about a job to apply _all_ service from a cbpdo

2009-06-04 Thread Klein, Kenneth
Actually I am perfectly happy with the rc=4 - I used bypass(systemhold(action)) for 1 ptf that wanted me to know there was help information. 8 would bother me. I am just concerned that my jcl got too, way too complicated. After the memo to users, memo to users extension, the program directory

Re: Security problem with SMTP

2009-06-04 Thread Itschak Mugzach
Audit the SMTP stc userid and then look in SMF. No better way. Itschak On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 1:32 PM, Jorge Garcia jgarc...@mapfre.com wrote: Hello: We need to send a STC sysout by SMTP and we leave this sysout in Q class in the spool (the class isn't important). When the SMTP STC try to

Re: Help on IEBEDIT Utility

2009-06-04 Thread SUBSCRIBE vignesh
Yes, Rexx or any other Programming language was an option in my mind initially. It would require lot of checks to ensure that a line is legal within a JCL. Say for Ex, Determining the Start and end of a JOBSTEP is a big challenge especially, if there any instream data in the JOB. The other

Re: Security problem with SMTP

2009-06-04 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Jorge Garcia wrote: When the SMTP STC try to process this sysout this message appears: $HASP186 HZSPRINT OUTGRP=2.1.1 NOT SELECTED BY STC08510/SMTP.SMTP DUE TO SECURITY POLICY Try $TDEBUG,SECURITY=YES and after fixing your problem do it with NO. The STC SMTP starts with STCSYS group and the

Re: Smpe batch jcl question about a job to apply _all_ service from a cbpdo

2009-06-04 Thread Klein, Kenneth
Thanks for the advice. I got those lines from the smppunch output from a smp report errorsysmods job. //* GDE: CBPDO MEMO EXTENSION //* DOC: This job will perform the SMP/E REPORT ERRSYSMODS command //* for HOLDDATA

Re: Why are z/OS people reluctant to use z/OS UNIX?

2009-06-04 Thread David Crayford
Barbara Nitz wrote: I am one of those who hate UNIX on z/OS. Here's why: 2. A pain with regard to system controls. a) USS is expected to be exempt from all controls MVS has - look at iefusi and the huge warnings surrounding it if you *DON'T* give a USS address space what it wants! Same

Re: strange codepage issue in ISPF

2009-06-04 Thread Steve Comstock
Tidy, David (D) wrote: I believe that x'4D' and x'5D' are the CP1047 standard brackets. (x'AD' and x'BD' are square brackets). I looked on http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/infocenter/pcomhelp/v5r9/index.jsp?topic=/ com.ibm.pcomm.doc/reference/html/hcp_reference27.htm which seems to confirm that.

Re: Why are z/OS people reluctant to use z/OS UNIX?

2009-06-04 Thread Barbara Nitz
I can understand the reason for those IEFUSI warnings. Java! Well, the warnings for IEFUSI were there long before Java came along. And it was only the precursor for things to come. Also those of us who compile using the C/C++ compiler in USS need a lot of memory because the compiler is a memory

Re: WLM Service Class assignment Order

2009-06-04 Thread Hunkeler Peter (KIUK 3)
You seem to run CICS itself as STC (as oposed to running it as a batch job). So, the CICS region gets classified by the STC rules. Later when CICS classifies transactions, they get classified by the CICS rules. HTH -- Peter Hunkeler CREDIT SUISSE

Re: Why are z/OS people reluctant to use z/OS UNIX?

2009-06-04 Thread Chase, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Barbara Nitz I can understand the reason for those IEFUSI warnings. Java! Well, the warnings for IEFUSI were there long before Java came along. And it was only the precursor for things to come. Also those of us

Re: Why are z/OS people reluctant to use z/OS UNIX?

2009-06-04 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
The following message is a courtesy copy of an article that has been posted to bit.listserv.ibm-main as well. nitz-...@gmx.net (Barbara Nitz) writes: My point of contention is that most of the 'programmers' (That's why I called that 'clicking') don't care that their code is poor. My neighbour

Re: ENQMAXU/ENQMAXA

2009-06-04 Thread J Ellis
We have considered raising it, however we would really like to figure out whats going on and if it is in fact ESP (we are contacting them). For a single A/S to be using more than 80% of a 16K table for enq/deq seems a bit excessive. We are concerned about what will happen when we roll this into

CLIST equivalent to REXX STRIP

2009-06-04 Thread Gilbert Saint-Flour
Hello: I'm trying to find a way to translate this REXX instruction to a CLIST equivalent :SAY '/' || STRIP(' AA-BB ') || '/' I'm trying to remove the leading and trailing spaces, which may or may not be present in the string. All the CLIST equivalent solutions I found so far are more

Re: CLIST equivalent to REXX STRIP

2009-06-04 Thread Baraniecki, Ray
Try the following: SAY '/'STRIP('AA-BB','B')'/' Thanks, Ray Baraniecki Morgan Stanley GWMG 18th Floor 1 New York Plaza New York, NY 10004 Office - 212-276-5641 Cell - 917-597-5692 ray.baranie...@morganstaley.com BE CARBON CONSCIOUS. PLEASE CONSIDER OUR ENVIRONMENT BEFORE

Re: CLIST equivalent to REXX STRIP

2009-06-04 Thread Hardee, Charles H
Gilbert, Try this: PROC 0 CONTROL MSG LIST CON SET X = STR( AA-BB ) SET NEWX = STR()

Re: CLIST equivalent to REXX STRIP

2009-06-04 Thread Binyamin Dissen
On Thu, 4 Jun 2009 15:32:54 +0200 Gilbert Saint-Flour usenet5...@yahoo.com wrote: :I'm trying to find a way to translate this REXX instruction to :a CLIST equivalent :SAY '/' || STRIP(' AA-BB ') || '/' :I'm trying to remove the leading and trailing spaces, which may :or may not be

Re: CLIST equivalent to REXX STRIP

2009-06-04 Thread Itschak Mugzach
Can't test it, but if I recall correctly, assignment will remove leading/trailing blanks. If the literal is already stored in a variable, say B, you can SET A=B to remove all blanks. From your sample, it is clear that you don't need a strip for a literal written in your own program, so I assumed

OS/VS1

2009-06-04 Thread Ward, Mike S
Hello all, I know this is old hat to some, but I thought I would ask anyway. I'm sure it's been asked here before, but we might have some new members that may be able to help. I'm looking for a copy OS/VS1, tapes, manuals, etc... I would like to get a vanilla VS1 Release 7.0 system without BPE,

Dynamic PAV assigment has stopped

2009-06-04 Thread Dave Butts
Has anyone experienced all dynamic PAV activity just stopping? RMF reports are showing me that there have been zero changes to our alias assignments for the past couple weeks. Lickily our PAVs are currently spread out enough over the production UCBs that we have not had terrible performance

Re: Why are z/OS people reluctant to use z/OS UNIX?

2009-06-04 Thread Thomas David Rivers
Barbara Nitz wrote: Also those of us who compile using the C/C++ compiler in USS need a lot of memory because the compiler is a memory hog when optimizing. It's no different when compiling using batch. Not to mention a cpu hog. That's why we suggest doing those compiles with our C/C++

Re: Java V5 s0c4

2009-06-04 Thread Ceruti, Gerard G
Hi All For the achieve our problem was related to a 3rd party product. Stopped the product and all is working , we will follow-up with the vendor. Regards Gerard Ceruti may the 'z' be with you -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On

Re: Help on IEBEDIT Utility

2009-06-04 Thread Terry Sambrooks
Hi, With regards to Is there detailed documentation, which indicates the PARAMETERS not supported by IEBEDIT utility ? IF i have that information, it would serve as a good input to proceed further with this uitlity or not , depending the formats my JOBS are in !! I suspect that there may not be

Re: Why are z/OS people reluctant to use z/OS UNIX?

2009-06-04 Thread Steven Conway
Barbara Nitz's masterful rant snipped Barbara, you are my hero. You are a goddess. I want to be you when (if) I grow up. Well said, madam, well said. Cheers,,,Steve Steve Conway Lead Systems Programmer Information Systems Services Division Computer Network Operations Phone: (703)

Re: CLIST equivalent to REXX STRIP

2009-06-04 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 4 Jun 2009 15:32:54 +0200, Gilbert Saint-Flour wrote: I'm trying to find a way to translate this REXX instruction to a CLIST equivalent ... Why? -- gil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions,

Re: Security problem with SMTP

2009-06-04 Thread Jorge Garcia
Elardus: It' right. First I've activate the debug and show a different profile (*.*.**). We give access ALTER to this profile in JESSPOOL class and execute it. Thanks a lot!! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive

Re: Why are z/OS people reluctant to use z/OS UNIX?

2009-06-04 Thread McKown, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Barbara Nitz Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 12:43 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Why are z/OS people reluctant to use z/OS UNIX? I am one of those who hate UNIX on z/OS.

Re: Dynamic PAV assigment has stopped

2009-06-04 Thread Vernooy, C.P. - SPLXM
Dave Butts dave.w.bu...@lowes.com wrote in message news:listserv%200906040916525513.0...@bama.ua.edu... Has anyone experienced all dynamic PAV activity just stopping? RMF reports are showing me that there have been zero changes to our alias assignments for the past couple weeks. Lickily

Re: CLIST equivalent to REXX STRIP

2009-06-04 Thread Ted MacNEIL
Try the following: SAY '/'STRIP('AA-BB','B')'/' SAY is not a CLIST construct. WRITE (or WRITENR) are the CLIST equivalents. And, as the OP stated, STRIP is not a CLIST function. - Too busy driving to stop for gas! -- For

Re: Dynamic PAV assigment has stopped

2009-06-04 Thread Ted MacNEIL
Has anyone experienced all dynamic PAV activity just stopping? Check both your IODF WLM policy. Both have to have PAV turned on. If one doesn't, then it won't be active. We implemented dynamic, aeons ago, in the following manner: 1. Assign one alias to each volume (we had enough at the time).

Re: Dynamic PAV assigment has stopped

2009-06-04 Thread Dave Butts
The MCLs were applied on May 2. On Thu, 4 Jun 2009 16:47:59 +0200, Vernooy, C.P. - SPLXM kees.vern...@klm.com wrote: When was your MCL upgrade? Our last upgrade was first half of April and I still see PAVs moving. Kees. --

Re: Help on IEBEDIT Utility

2009-06-04 Thread Terry Sambrooks
Hi, With regard to my earlier suggestion of perhaps adding a second step to execute a REXX routine to uncomment INCLUDE and SET statements after IEBEDIT has processed them. A test run using both IEBEDIT INCLUDE and EXCLUDE reveals that such a step is not particularly helpful, as the comment

Re: Why are z/OS people reluctant to use z/OS UNIX?

2009-06-04 Thread McKown, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Thomas David Rivers Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 9:18 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Why are z/OS people reluctant to use z/OS UNIX? Barbara Nitz wrote: Also those

Re: Dynamic PAV assigment has stopped

2009-06-04 Thread Ed Finnell
In a message dated 6/4/2009 10:02:53 A.M. Central Daylight Time, kees.vern...@klm.com writes: When was your MCL upgrade? Our last upgrade was first half of April and I still see PAVs moving. Parts is parts. Guess we need to know more info. z9---z/CHPIDs---z/Controller MCL Type and

Kicking off an oracle process

2009-06-04 Thread Patrick Lyon
Hello List - This question was posed to me and I would assume there would be a way to do it, but I do not know how. I seek the knowledge of the list to answer it if possible. A DBA wants to know if there is a way to request the execution of an oracle stored procedure on another server from

Re: Why are z/OS people reluctant to use z/OS UNIX?

2009-06-04 Thread Thomas David Rivers
McKown, John wrote: -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Thomas David Rivers Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 9:18 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Why are z/OS people reluctant to use z/OS UNIX? Barbara Nitz wrote:

Re: Kicking off an oracle process

2009-06-04 Thread Hal Merritt
There should be many potential ways. It would mostly depend on the limitations of the target server. I'd probably start with a batch executed REXX procedure that would telnet (or ssh) to the target server, execute commands, and parse the result. There is a remote execute facility I'd also

Re: OPTICA ESCON to Bus / Tag Converters.

2009-06-04 Thread Hal Merritt
Thanks, Will. Sounds like the way to go. Now, if I could get someone to respond with more details such as a shipping address -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of William Donzelli Sent: Friday, May 22, 2009 12:50 PM To:

Re: Why are z/OS people reluctant to use z/OS UNIX? (Are settlements a good argument for overnight batch COBOL ?).

2009-06-04 Thread Brendan Friel
It's interesting to link (trade) settlements to overnight batch COBOL. That's not really an option(sic) in today's trading world - you need to support same day settlements and various intraday business functions. This type of need would be reflected in a multitude of business functions

Re: OPTICA ESCON to Bus / Tag Converters.

2009-06-04 Thread Brian Peterson
From the bitsavers.org web page: -=-=-=-=-=-=- Would you like to help bitsavers? We're looking for documentation and software for minicomputers and mainframes, from the 50's to the 80's. email aek at bitsavers dot org if you can help. -=-=-=-=-=-=- Brian On Thu, 4 Jun 2009 11:22:08 -0500, Hal

Jes2 Exit

2009-06-04 Thread Joseph Reichman
Hi, would anyone know if there is a Jes exit that gets control after the User Asid Has been created Joseph Reichman Senior Programmer (914) 785 - 1034 _ LEGAL NOTICE Unless expressly stated otherwise, this message is confidential and may be privileged. It is intended for the

Re: OPTICA ESCON to Bus / Tag Converters.

2009-06-04 Thread Hal Merritt
Tried that. No response to date. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Brian Peterson Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 11:28 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: OPTICA ESCON to Bus / Tag Converters. From the bitsavers.org

Re: Jes2 Exit

2009-06-04 Thread Binyamin Dissen
On Thu, 4 Jun 2009 12:27:57 -0400 Joseph Reichman reichm...@emigrant.com wrote: : would anyone know if there is a Jes exit that gets control after the User Asid Has been :created The user asid is an initiator, which is created before a job is selected. What are you trying to do? -- Binyamin

Re: SMF LOGGER - Not Ready for Prime Time

2009-06-04 Thread Knutson, Sam
PTFs UA47565 for 1.9 UA47566 for 1.10 now available. http://www.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=isg1OA27037 Best Regards, Sam Knutson, GEICO System z Performance and Availability Management mailto:sknut...@geico.com

Re: Jes2 Exit

2009-06-04 Thread Joseph Reichman
the intiator TCB or JobStep Tcb is created by Jes I believe Joseph Reichman Senior Programmer (914) 785 - 1034 Binyamin Dissen bdis...@dissensoftware.com 6/4/2009 12:35 PM On Thu, 4 Jun 2009 12:27:57 -0400 Joseph Reichman reichm...@emigrant.com wrote: : would anyone know if there is a Jes

Re: Jes2 Exit

2009-06-04 Thread Binyamin Dissen
On Thu, 4 Jun 2009 12:38:35 -0400 Joseph Reichman reichm...@emigrant.com wrote: :the intiator TCB or JobStep Tcb is created by Jes I believe Still not clear what you want. Perhaps exit32. Perhaps IEFUJI/IEFUSI. What are you trying to do? : Binyamin Dissen bdis...@dissensoftware.com 6/4/2009

Re: Why are z/OS people reluctant to use z/OS UNIX? (Are settlements a good argument for overnight batch COBOL ?).

2009-06-04 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
The following message is a courtesy copy of an article that has been posted to bit.listserv.ibm-main as well. bjpafr...@hotmail.com (Brendan Friel) writes: It's interesting to link (trade) settlements to overnight batch COBOL. That's not really an option(sic) in today's trading world - you

Fwd: Re: Jes2 Exit

2009-06-04 Thread Joseph Reichman
Joseph Reichman Senior Programmer (914) 785 - 1034 Joseph Reichman 6/4/2009 1:13 PM Ok thankx I explain in a little while thankx Binyamin Dissen bdis...@dissensoftware.com 6/4/2009 12:55 PM On Thu, 4 Jun 2009 12:38:35 -0400 Joseph Reichman reichm...@emigrant.com wrote:

Re: Jes2 Exit

2009-06-04 Thread McKown, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Joseph Reichman Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 11:28 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Jes2 Exit Hi, would anyone know if there is a Jes exit that gets control after the

Re: ENQMAXU/ENQMAXA

2009-06-04 Thread Chris Brooker
Contacting ESP is the right approach. We cap the number of ENQs any one space can obtain. This limit is in place to prevent a runaway program from utilizing all the storage in the GRS address space. This limit is customizable either at the address space level via the ISGADMIN API, or at the system

Re: Why are z/OS people reluctant to use z/OS UNIX? (Are settlements a good argument for overnight batch COBOL ?).

2009-06-04 Thread Chase, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Anne Lynn Wheeler [ snip ] somewhat as a result of the electronic commerce and x9.59 work, we were invited into NSCC (since merged with DTC for DTCC) to look at doing something similar for all trading

Re: RACF - CLASS(PROGRAM)

2009-06-04 Thread Rick Fochtman
You should explain to your auditors: anyoine can give any name they like to any program. The FUNCTION and CAPABILITIES of a program are FAR more important than the name. Is it APF authorized? is the loadlib APF authorized? Without proper authorization, with respect to z/OS rules, it's not very

Re: Help on IEBEDIT Utility

2009-06-04 Thread Rick Fochtman
I understand completely; BTDTGTSS. IEBEDIT will do that, but you should open a PMR with IBM, with the intent of getting support for INCLUDE/SET/IF/THEN/ELSE statements. That particular utility probably hasn't even been examined since the days of OS/360. SUBSCRIBE vignesh wrote: Is there

Re: RACF - CLASS(PROGRAM)

2009-06-04 Thread Hal Merritt
Respectfully, what you suggest is futile. A path that may (or may not) be worth pursuing is to try to pry loose exactly what the auditors really want. What I'm seeing is that the auditors perceive a potential exposure and then they try to come up with some way to mitigate the issue. Never

Re: Why are z/OS people reluctant to use z/OS UNIX?

2009-06-04 Thread Gibney, Dave
All that and, maybe it's just personally visceral, but I am not fond of alp -H -a bet so | up I'm sure when I'm again required to be more practiced in *nix, hopefully zLinux is on the horizon, I'll find the old brain cells from my unix days in college :) Dave Gibney Information Technology

Re: Dynamic PAV assigment has stopped

2009-06-04 Thread Mark Zelden
On Thu, 4 Jun 2009 09:16:52 -0500, Dave Butts dave.w.bu...@lowes.com wrote: Has anyone experienced all dynamic PAV activity just stopping? RMF reports are showing me that there have been zero changes to our alias assignments for the past couple weeks. Lickily our PAVs are currently spread out

Re: Dynamic PAV assigment has stopped

2009-06-04 Thread Dick de Groot
LS, More important is your IOSQ time increasing ? Are the number of PAV adresses insufficient ? 2009/6/4 Dave Butts dave.w.bu...@lowes.com Has anyone experienced all dynamic PAV activity just stopping? RMF reports are showing me that there have been zero changes to our alias assignments for

Re: Dynamic PAV assigment has stopped

2009-06-04 Thread Ted MacNEIL
More important is your IOSQ time increasing ? Are the number of PAV adresses insufficient ? The OP said he was fine, for now. But, I/O patterns do change, over the day, and over time. I still think the IODF and the WLM policy should be checked to see if it's enabled in both. It may be; it is

Re: strange codepage issue in ISPF

2009-06-04 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Thu, 4 Jun 2009 06:03:01 -0600, Steve Comstock st...@trainersfriend.com wrote: ... Ah! Maybe part of the problem is language. In [American] English: ( and ) are parentheses { and } are braces (not curly braces, just braces) [ and ] are brackets (not square brackets, just brackets)

OEM Device Support

2009-06-04 Thread Anthony Fletcher
Does anyone know how non-IBM device support modules are names? I need to determine whether a system has any device support modules in it that were not supplied by IBM. eg, how are they named to avoid conflict with IBM supplied ones. It must be documented somewhere, but I haven't found it.

Re: Dynamic PAV assigment has stopped

2009-06-04 Thread Hal Merritt
Indeed, and that may be exactly what happened: a change to the workload eliminated or reduced volume contention such that PAV redistribution is no longer needed. AFAIK, WLM will move a PAV only when it believes that doing so will help some workload that is not meeting its goals.

Re: OEM Device Support

2009-06-04 Thread David Waldman
Perhaps the information you seek is in the MVS Device Validation Support Manual. http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/epubs/pdf/iea2g610.pdf Dave Waldman -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email

Re: OEM Device Support

2009-06-04 Thread Chuck Arney
The doc is in SA22-7586 MVS Device Validation Support. Appendix C contains a list of IBM supplied UIMs. Chuck Arney illustro Systems International, LLC http://www.illustro.com Internet-enable your applications with z/Ware V2 Voice: 214-800-8900 X#5562 -- This e-mail is private and may be

Re: Dynamic PAV assigment has stopped

2009-06-04 Thread Ted MacNEIL
Indeed, and that may be exactly what happened: a change to the workload eliminated or reduced volume contention such that PAV redistribution is no longer needed. I didn't say a change to the workload. I said a change to WLM or IODF. - Too busy driving to stop for gas!

Re: Dynamic PAV assigment has stopped

2009-06-04 Thread Hal Merritt
Ah, but you did: But, I/O patterns do change, over the day, and over time. And I agree with that as well the rest of your excellent advise. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Ted MacNEIL Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009

Re: Why are z/OS people reluctant to use z/OS UNIX?

2009-06-04 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Thu, 4 Jun 2009 10:18:11 -0400, Thomas David Rivers riv...@dignus.com wrote: ... That's why we suggest doing those compiles with our C/C++ compiler running in IBM compatibility mode on a local workstation... saves a lot of memory CPU.. and, if you are being billed for those, it can save a

Re: Dynamic PAV assigment has stopped

2009-06-04 Thread Ted MacNEIL
Ah, but you did: But, I/O patterns do change, over the day, and over time. And I agree with that as well the rest of your excellent advise. I guess I wasn't clear. I find it difficult to believe that not a single PAV was re-assigned in a month. That was the purpose of my 'pattern' statement.

Large Page Support

2009-06-04 Thread Mark Zelden
Is there a way to tell that large page support is really available other than checking CVTEDAT and scanning the IPA for LFAREA= (something other than 0M)? Mark -- Mark Zelden Sr. Software and Systems Architect - z/OS Team Lead Zurich North America / Farmers Insurance Group - ZFUS G-ITO

Re: Why are z/OS people reluctant to use z/OS UNIX?

2009-06-04 Thread Kelly Arrey
Also those of us who compile using the C/C++ compiler in USS need a lot of memory because the compiler is a memory hog when optimizing. It's no different when compiling using batch. Not to mention a cpu hog. It's true, our compiler can take up a lot of memory and cpu. We provide several

Re: Dynamic PAV assigment has stopped

2009-06-04 Thread Dave Butts
Yea, we checked the IODF and the WLM policy. No changes there. Last IODF change was earlier in April and everything is still set for PAV in there and in the WLM policy. I liked the idea of reactivating the policy, but I checked and we have activated new policies with minor changes a couple

Re: Dynamic PAV assigment has stopped

2009-06-04 Thread Traylor, Terry
Do you have HyperPAV implemented? Terry Traylor charlesSCHWAB TIS Mainframe Storage Management Remedy Queue: tis-hs-mstg (602) 977-5154 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Dave Butts Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 7:17 AM

Re: Why are z/OS people reluctant to use z/OS UNIX?

2009-06-04 Thread Thompson, Steve
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Kelly Arrey Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 3:07 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Why are z/OS people reluctant to use z/OS UNIX? Also those of us who compile using the C/C++ compiler

Re: Large Page Support

2009-06-04 Thread Bill Fairchild
Allocate a one-MB object above the bar, page fix it, get the 64-bit real address of the starting virtual address, the 64-bit real address of the starting virtual address +4K, and off bits 51-63 (with a mask of X'E000') of both addresses, and compare the two real addresses that are

Re: Large Page Support

2009-06-04 Thread Bill Fairchild
I always forget a few details. Before doing the page fix, make your address space non-swappable if it is not already. After the compare, delete the object and make your address space swappable if it was originally swappable. Bill Fairchild Software Developer Rocket Software 275 Grove Street

Re: Large Page Support

2009-06-04 Thread Jim Mulder
IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu wrote on 06/04/2009 04:31:36 PM: Allocate a one-MB object above the bar, page fix it, get the 64-bit real address of the starting virtual address, the 64-bit real address of the starting virtual address +4K, and off bits 51-63 (with a

How to synch MVS catalog to RMM CDS

2009-06-04 Thread John Mattson
z/OS 1.8 RMM Install and Cus manual talks about EDGUTIL and EDGHSKP synching but it does not make clear exactly WHAT is Synch'd to WHAT. In my case I am trying to synch my MVS USER CATALOGs to a MORE recent (ie more up to date) RMM CDS. I had spoken with and IBM tech about a

Re: Large Page Support

2009-06-04 Thread Binyamin Dissen
On Thu, 4 Jun 2009 16:31:36 -0400 Bill Fairchild bi...@mainstar.com wrote: :Allocate a one-MB object above the bar, page fix it, get the 64-bit real address of the starting virtual address, the 64-bit real address of the starting virtual address +4K, and off bits 51-63 (with a mask of

Re: Why are z/OS people reluctant to use z/OS UNIX?

2009-06-04 Thread Ted MacNEIL
Considering the number of times the application code will be executed in production, the cpu time invested in optimizing it can be time well spent. YES! 100% As a capacity analyst since 1981, I've fought the battle of the compiler vs the execution. Run the compiler steps in a low priority

Re: Dynamic PAV assigment has stopped

2009-06-04 Thread Ted MacNEIL
Good! All I said was: check it out! Never said it was the issue. Yea, we checked the IODF and the WLM policy. No changes there. Last IODF change was earlier in April and everything is still set for PAV in there and in the WLM policy. - Too busy driving to stop for gas!

Re: How to synch MVS catalog to RMM CDS

2009-06-04 Thread Hal Merritt
My RMM guy said yes, there is a CATSYNC process. But he also was not sure what gets synch'd to what. A missing catalog entry, for example, could cause that tape to be scratched. But he suggested that there should be some parameters that would express your wishes to RMM. -Original

Re: Kicking off an oracle process

2009-06-04 Thread Bill Manry
On 4 Jun 2009 08:27:53 -0700, ptl...@midamerican.com (Patrick Lyon) wrote: A DBA wants to know if there is a way to request the execution of an oracle stored procedure on another server from the mainframe and have the result return to the mainframe. If you install the Oracle client libraries

Re: Large Page Support

2009-06-04 Thread Mark Zelden
On Thu, 4 Jun 2009 16:51:43 -0400, Jim Mulder d10j...@us.ibm.com wrote: You may be able to infer something from: BROWSESYS1.MODGEN(IARRCE) RCEReconLFASize DS 0D Size of the Reconfigurable @M2A * Large Frame Area in Megabytes @M2A

Re: RACF - CLASS(PROGRAM)

2009-06-04 Thread Rick Fochtman
In my experience, many, if not most, auditors trigger on program name, rather than asking about function and capabilities. Somebody told them that XYZ is a bad program, therefore, any program of that name is bad, without regard to where it's located or its actual function/capabilities. Hal

Re: Why are z/OS people reluctant to use z/OS UNIX?

2009-06-04 Thread Arthur Gutowski
Apologies in advance, this is going all over the map... and, I don't intend to offend anyone's sensibilities (I'm an avid mainframe guy, but I am tempered by an effort to understand how things came to be). Hopefully this will spark more thought and questions than religious railing. DB2 was

Re: How to synch MVS catalog to RMM CDS

2009-06-04 Thread John Mattson
Yep, Hal, there should be come parameters, but I can find neither the parms, nor an adequate explanation in the doc. Using Google I found that RMM at zOS 1.9+ will output the update commands created by MEND(SMSTAPE) so that one may actually LOOK at what is being done before jumping

EXEC Above the Bar (Was Large Page Support)

2009-06-04 Thread Rick Fochtman
Jim, a completely different question: can you give us any idea or hint when we can expect to use executable code above the bar? In my shop, we have programs that are executed literally thousands of times per day and program fetch is a significant part of the time involved. Adding these

Re: Jes2 Exit

2009-06-04 Thread Joe Reichman
exit32 seems to be it it runs Environ user so. Its runs in the User Address space Beofre the Jobs runs it the Adress space has been created probably all other revelent control blocks have been created CDE's etc PSAAOLD as that time should be the User Addrss Space -Original

Re: Kicking off an oracle process

2009-06-04 Thread David Stephens
You may be able to use FTP to issue a command to start the Oracle process, and then GET back a file with the results. David Stephens Lead Systems Programmer d...@longpelaexpertise.com.au www.longpelaexpertise.com.au http://www.longpelaexpertise.com.au/images/logo.gif Ph. 0404 757 821 (from

job started with SUB=MSTR without the owner information

2009-06-04 Thread Tommy Tsui
Hi all, I try to started a system task APPC with SUB=MSTR but can't find the owner/user or jobid information even we defined a started task to APPC.* . How can we assign a owner to this system task? Any help will be appreciated

Re: EXEC Above the Bar (Was Large Page Support)

2009-06-04 Thread Nemo
Rick, You don't need full fledged executable code above the bar for what you have described. You could use the SHARE/UNSHARE functions of IARVSERV added to IARV64 - in other words a 64-bit IARVSERV (i.e., captured storage grande). That could be a WHOLE lot easier for IBM to ship than

Re: Why are z/OS people reluctant to use z/OS UNIX?

2009-06-04 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
The following message is a courtesy copy of an article that has been posted to bit.listserv.ibm-main as well. st...@trainersfriend.com (Steve Comstock) writes: That's the other windmill I'm tilting at these days: the benefits of insourcing - using local people for local work. Working to once