Re: Dummy question on ISPF command

2016-12-01 Thread Mike Schwab
Press F1 for a longer message.

On Thu, Dec 1, 2016 at 11:20 PM, Peter  wrote:
> Hi
>
> Apologies for asking a dummy question
>
> When we do C ALL DATA1 DATA2 in a PS or PDS. Is it possible to get a count
> of changes it made ?
>
> Since I am not able to see the changes at the top right corner.
>
> Peter
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Re: Dummy question on ISPF command

2016-12-01 Thread Chris Hoelscher
At least at our shop, pressing F1 AFTER the change will prvide a count at the 
bottom of the screen

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> When we do C ALL DATA1 DATA2 in a PS or PDS. Is it possible to get a count of
> changes it made ?
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> Since I am not able to see the changes at the top right corner.
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Dummy question on ISPF command

2016-12-01 Thread Peter
Hi

Apologies for asking a dummy question

When we do C ALL DATA1 DATA2 in a PS or PDS. Is it possible to get a count
of changes it made ?

Since I am not able to see the changes at the top right corner.

Peter

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Re: CALLLIBS and non-existent library

2016-12-01 Thread Mike Schwab
DSN=SYS1.EMPTY, DISP=(NEW,CATLG),
UNIT=3390,SPACE=(TRK,(1,0,1)),RECFM=U

On Thu, Dec 1, 2016 at 7:54 PM, Paul Gilmartin
<000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:
> On 2016-12-01 13:29, Jesse 1 Robinson wrote:
>> I had this problem some time ago with some optional part of an IBM product 
>> that I had chosen not to install but then got flak during PTF APPLY. The 
>> advice I got was that if no code would ever actually be needed, just point 
>> to SYS1.LINKLIB. If SMP/E ain't happy, ain't nobody happy.
>>
> There ought to be a NULLLIB, analogous to NULLFILE for such purposes.
> Think of the directory searches it would save!
>
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Re: CALLLIBS and non-existent library

2016-12-01 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On 2016-12-01 13:29, Jesse 1 Robinson wrote:
> I had this problem some time ago with some optional part of an IBM product 
> that I had chosen not to install but then got flak during PTF APPLY. The 
> advice I got was that if no code would ever actually be needed, just point to 
> SYS1.LINKLIB. If SMP/E ain't happy, ain't nobody happy. 
>  
There ought to be a NULLLIB, analogous to NULLFILE for such purposes.
Think of the directory searches it would save!

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Re: PARMDD

2016-12-01 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On 2016-12-01 12:05, Farley, Peter x23353 wrote:
> Oh, and I forgot to say:  For a DD * with symbol substitution:
> 
> SYMBOLS=({JCLONLY|EXECSYS|CNVTSYS} [,logging-DDname])
> 
> In anything *except* the PARMDD DD statement the " logging-DDname" 
> subparameter will let you point to a logging DD (usually SYSOUT=*).
> 
> In the JCL Reference under DD Statement / SYMBOLS parameter, I find the 
> restrictions:
> 
> Logging is not performed in the following cases:
> 
> if logging-DDname is specified on the DD statement which describes an 
> in-stream data set that is the target on the PARMDD keyword. See PARMDD 
> parameter.

> if logging-DDname is specified on the SYSTSIN DD statement which describes 
> input data for the TMP (Terminal Monitoring Program).

> if in-stream data set is opened by one task and then read by a different task.
>
I suspect the first two restrictions stated are consequences of the third.

> if data set specified by logging-DDname cannot be successfully opened.
> 
That's almost a truism.  I suppose it's likewise true if the sysin itself
can't be opened.

Bummer, bummer, bummer!  So the solution (I tried it) is to preface a job
step that copies the substitutable sysin to a passed data set and use
that by referback as PARMDD.

I would hope (but hardly expect) that IBM would have the courtesy to
its customers to do that operation implicitly, transparently, behind
the scenes and spare customers the nuisance.

(RCF submitted on PARMDD, its homomorphism to PARM, 100-byte limit, and
APF entanglement.)

Thanks,
gil

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Re: TSO Setup on SSH

2016-12-01 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 1 Dec 2016 10:16:10 -0600, John McKown  wrote:

>Damn it, forgot to make one change in the command stream.
>
I wonder, did the OP get secure tn3270 working.  Then, much
as I hate to recommend it to anyone, would IND$FILE provide a
solution?  Is IND$FILE UNIX-file-savvy?

Here's my approach, using a POSIX pipe rather than a temp file,
with thanks to Peter Farley for suggestions about dealing with
PARMDD.  (I hate MVS, for reasons that go even beyond EBCDIC.):

//*
//SET4  SET OPTS=''   or '-B'
//SET5  SET FILTER='' or 'iconv -f ISO8859-1 -t IBM-1047 |'
//SET6  SET LCLFILE='//''SYS1.MACLIB(SPLEVEL)'''
//SET7  SET SYMS='SYMBOLS=(JCLONLY,LOGDD)'
//*
//FIXPARM  EXEC  PGM=IEBGENER
//SYSPRINT  DD  SYSOUT=(,)
//SYSIN DD  *
//SYSUT2DD  DISP=(,PASS),UNIT=SYSALLDA,SPACE=(1,(1,1))
//LOGDD DD  SYSOUT=(,)
//SYSUT1DD  *,  Copy LCLFILE to stdout
SH set -x; cp  ""  /dev/fd/1 |
//*
//  DD *,   Undo EBCDIC-ASCII translation.
  
//*
//  DD *,   Pipe into ssh.
  ssh ''@
//*
//  DD *,   Copy remote stdout to RMTFILE.
  "set -x; date; cat >"
//*
//STEP  EXEC  PGM=BPXBATCH,PARMDD=CMDS
//STDIN   DD  PATH='/dev/null'
//STDOUT  DD  SYSOUT=(,)
//STDERR  DD  SYSOUT=(,)
//CMDSDD  DISP=OLD,DSN=*.FIXPARM.SYSUT2

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Re: Catalogs in a SYSPLEX

2016-12-01 Thread van der Grijn, Bart (B)
Ken, All SYSRES datasets, except for SYS1, are in the catalog on the SYSRES. 
Aliases are symbolics pointing to CATALOG.SOFTWARE. 
SYS1 datasets are in MCAT with a volser of **. MCAT is on a sysplex level 
volume and shared across the LPARs in the plex. 

Maintenance and upgrades are installed in a sandbox environment. All SMP work 
is done only there. Once a month we clone the sandbox SYSRES volume and roll it 
into test and prod (the actual SYSRES volser changes every month).

Sorry for not being clear on the MCAT part before. 

Bart

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Subject: Re: Catalogs in a SYSPLEX

I'd still like to know how this works.  What's in your master cat?  What's
in your sysres cat?
Ken

On Tue, Nov 22, 2016 at 11:28 AM, van der Grijn, Bart (B) <
bvandergr...@dow.com> wrote:

> We run two sysplexes of about 12 LPARs each (NonProd vs Prod). Both plexes
> have a single mcat shared across the plex (but not between plexes). We've
> upgraded these from release to release over the last 10 years and never had
> to use a second master catalog. In fact, I just checked our NonProd mcat
> and it was created on 2007.005.
> We use a single SYSRES with its own catalog, which resides on the SYSRES.
> The SYSRES is swapped every month for a new one, which is how we introduce
> maintenance, or even upgrades.
>
> I've seen no down sides to a single mcat for our setup, but as others have
> noted, it will depend on the role of each system in the plex. For our setup
> all LPARs serve the same purpose, just for different application instances.
>
> Bart
>
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> Behalf Of Allan Staller
> Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2016 8:59 AM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: Catalogs in a SYSPLEX
>
> " Prior to this job I worked at a shop where we supported sysplexes from a
> single system to up to 10 LPARs in a single sysplex.  The master catalogs
> were not shared , I think I would put forth one big reason for not sharing
> the master catalog, would be system upgrades, when we went through the z/OS
> upgrades, there were times where SYS1. Level data sets location changed
> from one release to the next and the catalog needed to point to the new
> location for the new release.  We would upgrade one LPAR at a time in a
> sysplex, which was once a week, so it would be several weeks to complete a
> sysplex."
>
> This is a non-starter. As far as I am concerned, everything that can be
> shared should be shared (Two of anything that do not agree worse than
> nothing). If you go with separate MCATS, you must spend a great deal of
> time ensuring they are in sync w/each other.
>
> Sure, you need multiple MCATs during the upgrade cycle, but when all is
> done, there should be only one MCAT
>
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> Behalf Of Nims,Alva John (Al)
> Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 3:44 PM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: Catalogs in a SYSPLEX
>
> We currently have a 2 LPAR sysplex and the master catalog in not shared.
> Prior to this job I worked at a shop where we supported sysplexes from a
> single system to up to 10 LPARs in a single sysplex.  The master catalogs
> were not shared , I think I would put forth one big reason for not sharing
> the master catalog, would be system upgrades, when we went through the z/OS
> upgrades, there were times where SYS1. Level data sets location changed
> from one release to the next and the catalog needed to point to the new
> location for the new release.  We would upgrade one LPAR at a time in a
> sysplex, which was once a week, so it would be several weeks to complete a
> sysplex.
>
> I think there are a lot of questions you have to ask yourself about how
> you are going to handle the sysplex and what you are going to keep in the
> master catalog, besides SYS1.  Note: I believe System Symbols are your
> friend when setting up the catalog, for both data set names and VOLSER.
>
>
> Al Nims
> Systems Admin/Programmer 3
> UFIT
> University of Florida
> (352) 273-1298
>
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> Behalf Of Travis
> Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 3:54 PM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: Catalogs in a SYSPLEX
>
> We are creating a SYSPLEX of two systems and there seems to be some debate
> about using a single shared master catalog or multiple master catalogs on
> each system. The IBM manuals recommend a single shared master catalog but
> our CE has been advocating multiple catalogs. What are the pros and cons of
> running each? We have two identical systems in the PLEX and for right now
> there is no plan to add more, however that could change at any 

Re: CALLLIBS and non-existent library

2016-12-01 Thread Jesse 1 Robinson
I had this problem some time ago with some optional part of an IBM product that 
I had chosen not to install but then got flak during PTF APPLY. The advice I 
got was that if no code would ever actually be needed, just point to 
SYS1.LINKLIB. If SMP/E ain't happy, ain't nobody happy. 

.
.
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SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager
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Subject: (External):Re: CALLLIBS and non-existent library

W dniu 2016-12-01 o 17:08, Tom Marchant pisze:
> On Thu, 1 Dec 2016 15:23:21 +0100, R.S. wrote:
>
>> During SMP/E installation of some product APPLY fails because there 
>> is no SIBMCALL dddef.
>> This is part of PL/I which I don't have.
>> PL/I is not a prerequisite of the product.
>>
>> Any clue?
> Obvious answer: ask the vendor.
>
> CALLLIBS is the way you tell SMP/E to provide a SYSLIB concatenation 
> (may be just one library) to the binder. The binder will try to find 
> modules there to resolve any unresolved external references.
>
> Did the link edit fail, or was the link edit not done?
>
> If the link edit step failed with unresolved references, I'd look at 
> it and try to figure out where those modules reside. I'd expect that 
> they are in some LE library, and that is the data set you need for 
> SIBMCALL. You may need LILST and XREF to help you figure it out.
>
> If the link edit step was skipped, include a DD for SIBMCALL pointing 
> to an empty data set and look at the link to determine what modules 
> are needed.
>
>> 2. Edit MCS to remove SIBMCALL from the list.
> Not a good idea.
>


The vendor is IBM. The PL/I is not a part or prerequsite of the product (SQL 
Performance Analyzer).
According to some suggestions I got off-list I defined SIBMCALL entry pointing 
to dummy load library.
APPLY CHECK ended with RC=0
APPLY ended with RC=4  and some GIM23913W in SMPOUT and some IEW2480W + 
IEW2482W in SMP000nn.

However I feel unhappy with such approach. Program Directory should explain 
scenario with no SIBMCALL in the system.




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Re: PARMDD

2016-12-01 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
Oh, and I forgot to say:  For a DD * with symbol substitution:

SYMBOLS=({JCLONLY|EXECSYS|CNVTSYS} [,logging-DDname])

In anything *except* the PARMDD DD statement the " logging-DDname" subparameter 
will let you point to a logging DD (usually SYSOUT=*).

In the JCL Reference under DD Statement / SYMBOLS parameter, I find the 
restrictions:

Logging is not performed in the following cases:

if logging-DDname is specified on the DD statement which describes an in-stream 
data set that is the target on the PARMDD keyword. See PARMDD parameter.
if logging-DDname is specified on the SYSTSIN DD statement which describes 
input data for the TMP (Terminal Monitoring Program).
if in-stream data set is opened by one task and then read by a different task.
if data set specified by logging-DDname cannot be successfully opened.

HTH

Peter

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From: Farley, Peter x23353 
Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2016 1:58 PM
To: 'IBM Mainframe Discussion List'
Subject: RE: PARMDD

In:z/OS 2.1.0
z/OS MVS
z/OS MVS Programming: Assembler Services Guide
Linkage Conventions
Conventions for passing information through a parameter list
Program in primary ASC mode

The diagram (I can’t paste that in plain text here) shows a maximum PARM length 
of 32760, which matches the PARMDD limit.

I suspect that the storage control block in which the PARMDD is actually held 
is probably different from the old 100-byte PARM area, but the method shown to 
access it (starting with GPR1) seems to be the same.

HTH

Peter

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Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2016 1:47 PM
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Subject: PARMDD

In:z/OS 2.1.0
z/OS MVS
z/OS MVS JCL Reference
EXEC statement
PARMDD parameter

I read:
... To use the information, the processing program must contain
instructions to retrieve the information. ...

For details on the format of the passed information and its retrieval,
see z/OS MVS Programming: Assembler Services Guide.

Does this imply that the "passed information" is not in the venerable
R1 plist and that legacy programs probably won't be able to deal with it?

"Assembler Services Guide" is a pretty broad target.  Must I read the whole 
thing?  The ToC contains no mention of PARMDD.

Hmmm.  The description of PARM contains identical language.  But the 
description of PARMDD would be better if it mentioned the similarity to PARM.  
And both might more specifically mention the CALL macro.

ISTR that there's a way to display substitutions performed on sysins with the 
SYMBOLS= parameter but I can't find it.  However, ISTR also that this is 
ineffective for PARMDD.  Bummer.

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Re: PARMDD

2016-12-01 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
In:z/OS 2.1.0
z/OS MVS
z/OS MVS Programming: Assembler Services Guide
Linkage Conventions
Conventions for passing information through a parameter list
Program in primary ASC mode

The diagram (I can’t paste that in plain text here) shows a maximum PARM length 
of 32760, which matches the PARMDD limit.

I suspect that the storage control block in which the PARMDD is actually held 
is probably different from the old 100-byte PARM area, but the method shown to 
access it (starting with GPR1) seems to be the same.

HTH

Peter

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Subject: PARMDD

In:z/OS 2.1.0
z/OS MVS
z/OS MVS JCL Reference
EXEC statement
PARMDD parameter

I read:
... To use the information, the processing program must contain
instructions to retrieve the information. ...

For details on the format of the passed information and its retrieval,
see z/OS MVS Programming: Assembler Services Guide.

Does this imply that the "passed information" is not in the venerable
R1 plist and that legacy programs probably won't be able to deal with it?

"Assembler Services Guide" is a pretty broad target.  Must I read the whole 
thing?  The ToC contains no mention of PARMDD.

Hmmm.  The description of PARM contains identical language.  But the 
description of PARMDD would be better if it mentioned the similarity to PARM.  
And both might more specifically mention the CALL macro.

ISTR that there's a way to display substitutions performed on sysins with the 
SYMBOLS= parameter but I can't find it.  However, ISTR also that this is 
ineffective for PARMDD.  Bummer.

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PARMDD

2016-12-01 Thread Paul Gilmartin
In:z/OS 2.1.0
z/OS MVS
z/OS MVS JCL Reference
EXEC statement
PARMDD parameter

I read:
... To use the information, the processing program must contain
instructions to retrieve the information. ...

For details on the format of the passed information and its retrieval,
see z/OS MVS Programming: Assembler Services Guide.

Does this imply that the "passed information" is not in the venerable
R1 plist and that legacy programs probably won't be able to deal with it?

"Assembler Services Guide" is a pretty broad target.  Must I read the
whole thing?  The ToC contains no mention of PARMDD.

Hmmm.  The description of PARM contains identical language.  But
the description of PARMDD would be better if it mentioned the
similarity to PARM.  And both might more specifically mention the
CALL macro.

ISTR that there's a way to display substitutions performed on sysins
with the SYMBOLS= parameter but I can't find it.  However, ISTR
also that this is ineffective for PARMDD.  Bummer.

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Re: MIPS Calculation formula

2016-12-01 Thread Ed Jaffe

On 12/1/2016 2:56 AM, Elardus Engelbrecht wrote:


"meaningless"! Hahaha!

Are there alternatives to MIPS? Service Units? Dispatch speed? Other 
measurement methods?


For software contracts based on processor capacity, the only 
"meaningful" value is MSU (millions of service units per hour).


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Re: Question about memory usage under z/OS 2.2

2016-12-01 Thread Tom Marchant
On Thu, 1 Dec 2016 16:20:56 +, Vitullo, Carmen P 
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>Sorry folks I have no control over what corporate email server do, sometime it 
>sends a message secure sometimes not 

In that case, you might want to use the web interface at 
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Re: Catalogs in a SYSPLEX

2016-12-01 Thread Ken Smith
I'd still like to know how this works.  What's in your master cat?  What's
in your sysres cat?
Ken

On Tue, Nov 22, 2016 at 11:28 AM, van der Grijn, Bart (B) <
bvandergr...@dow.com> wrote:

> We run two sysplexes of about 12 LPARs each (NonProd vs Prod). Both plexes
> have a single mcat shared across the plex (but not between plexes). We've
> upgraded these from release to release over the last 10 years and never had
> to use a second master catalog. In fact, I just checked our NonProd mcat
> and it was created on 2007.005.
> We use a single SYSRES with its own catalog, which resides on the SYSRES.
> The SYSRES is swapped every month for a new one, which is how we introduce
> maintenance, or even upgrades.
>
> I've seen no down sides to a single mcat for our setup, but as others have
> noted, it will depend on the role of each system in the plex. For our setup
> all LPARs serve the same purpose, just for different application instances.
>
> Bart
>
> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On
> Behalf Of Allan Staller
> Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2016 8:59 AM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: Catalogs in a SYSPLEX
>
> " Prior to this job I worked at a shop where we supported sysplexes from a
> single system to up to 10 LPARs in a single sysplex.  The master catalogs
> were not shared , I think I would put forth one big reason for not sharing
> the master catalog, would be system upgrades, when we went through the z/OS
> upgrades, there were times where SYS1. Level data sets location changed
> from one release to the next and the catalog needed to point to the new
> location for the new release.  We would upgrade one LPAR at a time in a
> sysplex, which was once a week, so it would be several weeks to complete a
> sysplex."
>
> This is a non-starter. As far as I am concerned, everything that can be
> shared should be shared (Two of anything that do not agree worse than
> nothing). If you go with separate MCATS, you must spend a great deal of
> time ensuring they are in sync w/each other.
>
> Sure, you need multiple MCATs during the upgrade cycle, but when all is
> done, there should be only one MCAT
>
> -Original Message-
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> Behalf Of Nims,Alva John (Al)
> Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 3:44 PM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: Catalogs in a SYSPLEX
>
> We currently have a 2 LPAR sysplex and the master catalog in not shared.
> Prior to this job I worked at a shop where we supported sysplexes from a
> single system to up to 10 LPARs in a single sysplex.  The master catalogs
> were not shared , I think I would put forth one big reason for not sharing
> the master catalog, would be system upgrades, when we went through the z/OS
> upgrades, there were times where SYS1. Level data sets location changed
> from one release to the next and the catalog needed to point to the new
> location for the new release.  We would upgrade one LPAR at a time in a
> sysplex, which was once a week, so it would be several weeks to complete a
> sysplex.
>
> I think there are a lot of questions you have to ask yourself about how
> you are going to handle the sysplex and what you are going to keep in the
> master catalog, besides SYS1.  Note: I believe System Symbols are your
> friend when setting up the catalog, for both data set names and VOLSER.
>
>
> Al Nims
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>
> We are creating a SYSPLEX of two systems and there seems to be some debate
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> each system. The IBM manuals recommend a single shared master catalog but
> our CE has been advocating multiple catalogs. What are the pros and cons of
> running each? We have two identical systems in the PLEX and for right now
> there is no plan to add more, however that could change at any time in the
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Re: Automatic Binary Optimizer and application Software management product integration

2016-12-01 Thread Lizette Koehler
So one thing IBM may not have made clear, and I think this is correct.

The price you pay for V3/V4 Enterprise Cobol is the same price of V5/V6.  Why? 
A while back IBM decided to charge v3/v4 at the same price as V5/V6

Also, the ABO is not a "fix" to source code updates or having to run tests 
after a module has been run through ABO.  The audit for application changes may 
still require testing, regression testing, etc...

The key to this is:  When can you migrate from current Cobol version to V5/V6?  
If you have z/OS V2.2 on the horizon to roll out, it includes a new process to 
allow a concatenation of PDS/PDSE datasets in the IEFOPZxx member.  With this 
new function you can have the new PDSE checked first for the COBOL 
program/object and if not there look in the PDS.

IEFOPZxx contains statements that define the load library data set optimization 
configuration, which could, for example, provide a list of pairings of an old 
Cobol load library and the intended new load libraries (one for each desired 
architecture level) and specifies which members are to be processed 
(optimized). The IEFOPZ configuration is defined primarily in terms of 
IEFOPZ-Old/IEFOPZ-New load library data set pairs and DDNAME/JOBNAME pairs. A 
load library data set identified by the OLD parameter in IEFOPZxx is referred 
to as an IEFOPZ-Old data set. A load library data set identified by the NEW 
parameter in IEFOPZxx is referred to as an IEFOPZ-New data set.

https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/SSLTBW_2.2.0/com.ibm.zos.v2r2.ieae200/iefopzsynformat.htm




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> product integration
> 
> I want to thank those who had responded to my earlier question. I had already
> been to a number of presentations on ABO, and have been following prior
> discussions about ABO here on IBM-MAIN. I am an infrequent poster, but
> constant reader. Anyway,  management had shown little interest in ABO until an
> IBM sales presentation yesterday.
> 
> I thought I had seen something about keeping track of what had been optimized
> using Endevor or a similar product.
> 
> Of course, management interest does not turn into licensed product without
> budgeting, so it all might be moot.
> 
> Jeffrey Holst
> Systems Administator Senior
> Technology and Operations, Shared Services PNC

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Re: Automatic Binary Optimizer and application Software management product integration

2016-12-01 Thread Holst, Jeffrey A
I want to thank those who had responded to my earlier question. I had already 
been to a number of presentations on ABO, and have been following prior 
discussions about ABO here on IBM-MAIN. I am an infrequent poster, but constant 
reader. Anyway,  management had shown little interest in ABO until an IBM sales 
presentation yesterday. 

I thought I had seen something about keeping track of what had been optimized 
using Endevor or a similar product. 

Of course, management interest does not turn into licensed product without 
budgeting, so it all might be moot.

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Re: Erich Bloch, Who Helped Develop IBM Mainframe, Dies at 91

2016-12-01 Thread Charles Mills
Photo with the article shows the first minicomputer.

Charles

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Sad news:

Erich Bloch, Who Helped Develop IBM Mainframe, Dies at 91

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/30/technology/erich-bloch-who-helped-develop-ibm-mainframe-dies-at-91.html?smid=li-share&_r=0

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Re: CALLLIBS and non-existent library

2016-12-01 Thread R.S.

W dniu 2016-12-01 o 17:08, Tom Marchant pisze:

On Thu, 1 Dec 2016 15:23:21 +0100, R.S. wrote:


During SMP/E installation of some product APPLY fails because there is
no SIBMCALL dddef.
This is part of PL/I which I don't have.
PL/I is not a prerequisite of the product.

Any clue?

Obvious answer: ask the vendor.

CALLLIBS is the way you tell SMP/E to provide a SYSLIB concatenation
(may be just one library) to the binder. The binder will try to find
modules there to resolve any unresolved external references.

Did the link edit fail, or was the link edit not done?

If the link edit step failed with unresolved references, I'd look at it
and try to figure out where those modules reside. I'd expect that
they are in some LE library, and that is the data set you need for
SIBMCALL. You may need LILST and XREF to help you figure it out.

If the link edit step was skipped, include a DD for SIBMCALL pointing
to an empty data set and look at the link to determine what modules
are needed.


2. Edit MCS to remove SIBMCALL from the list.

Not a good idea.




The vendor is IBM. The PL/I is not a part or prerequsite of the product 
(SQL Performance Analyzer).
According to some suggestions I got off-list I defined SIBMCALL entry 
pointing to dummy load library.

APPLY CHECK ended with RC=0
APPLY ended with RC=4  and some GIM23913W in SMPOUT and some IEW2480W + 
IEW2482W in SMP000nn.


However I feel unhappy with such approach. Program Directory should 
explain scenario with no SIBMCALL in the system.





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Re: Question about memory usage under z/OS 2.2

2016-12-01 Thread Vitullo, Carmen P
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Re: Question about memory usage under z/OS 2.2

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Re: TSO Setup on SSH

2016-12-01 Thread John McKown
Damn it, forgot to make one change in the command stream.

//JOBNAME JOB ACCT,NAME,CLASS=A,MSGCLASS=H,
// NOTIFY=
//SFTP EXEC PGM=IKJEFT01,REGION=0M
//SYSTSPRT DD   SYSOUT=*
//SYSEXEC  DD   DISP=SHR,DSN=SYS1.SBPXEXEC (MAY BE DIFFERENT)
//SYSTSIN  DD   *
OPUT 'SOME.DATA.SET.NAME ' '/tmp/SOME.FILE.NAME
'
OSHELL { echo 'password'; +
 echo 'cd /tmp'; +
 echo 'ascii'; +
 echo 'put /tmp/SOME.FILE.NAME '; } | +
   sftp -v use...@remote.ssh.server
/*
//* CHANGE password TO ACTUAL PASSWORD
//* CHANGE cd COMMAND TO ACTUAL REMOTE DIRECTORY
//* REMOVE ascii LINE FOR BINARY TRANSFER
//* CHANGE userid TO REMOTE USER'S ID
//* CHANGE remote.ssh.server TO ACTUAL DNS NAME/IP ADDR
//SCP  EXEC PGM=IKJEFT01,REGION=0M
//SYSTSPRT DD   SYSOUT=*
//SYSEXEC  DD   DISP=SHR,DSN=SYS1.SBPXEXEC (MAY BE DIFFERENT)
//SYSTSIN  DD   *
OPUT 'SOME.DATA.SET.NAME ' '/tmp/SOME.FILE.NAME
'
OSHELL echo 'password' | +
   scp /tmp/SOME.FILE.NAME  +
   use...@remote.ssh.server:-
/tmp/SOME.UNIXFILE.NAME 
/*
//* CHANGE password TO ACTUAL PASSWORD
//* CHANGE userid TO ACTUAL REMOTE USER ID
//* CHANGE remote.ssh.server TO ACTUAL DNS NAME/IP ADDR
//*  CRITICAL 
//* Note that scp command is spread over 3 lines due to
//* length of SYSTSIN input line. TSO will concatenate
//* them together into one logical line. IT IS CRITICAL
//* that you notice that I put the output file name
//* (/tmp/SOME.UNIXFILE.NAME ) on its own line
//* IT IS CRITICAL that this start in column 1.
//* IT IS ALSO CRITICAL that the previous line
//* end in a dash instead of a plus and that the dash
//* is _IMMEDIATELY_ after the colon. This is to
//* force TSO to concatenate all these characters together
//* without any spaces, which would destroy the UNIX
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Re: Question about memory usage under z/OS 2.2

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Re: CALLLIBS and non-existent library

2016-12-01 Thread Tom Marchant
On Thu, 1 Dec 2016 15:23:21 +0100, R.S. wrote:

>During SMP/E installation of some product APPLY fails because there is 
>no SIBMCALL dddef.
>This is part of PL/I which I don't have.
>PL/I is not a prerequisite of the product.
>
>Any clue?

Obvious answer: ask the vendor.

CALLLIBS is the way you tell SMP/E to provide a SYSLIB concatenation 
(may be just one library) to the binder. The binder will try to find 
modules there to resolve any unresolved external references.

Did the link edit fail, or was the link edit not done?

If the link edit step failed with unresolved references, I'd look at it 
and try to figure out where those modules reside. I'd expect that 
they are in some LE library, and that is the data set you need for 
SIBMCALL. You may need LILST and XREF to help you figure it out.

If the link edit step was skipped, include a DD for SIBMCALL pointing 
to an empty data set and look at the link to determine what modules 
are needed.

>2. Edit MCS to remove SIBMCALL from the list.

Not a good idea.

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Re: Host On Demand Java Certificate issues

2016-12-01 Thread Richards, Robert B.
PMR was answered and the following Flash was generated yesterday but not yet 
posted on Techdocs:

http://www-01.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=swg21992843

entitled "Signer Certificate Revoked for IBM Host On-Demand"

Bob

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Has anyone else experienced Java certificate issues using HOD?

We have trusted certs issued from IBM Canada for Verisign that are not expired, 
but are presenting themselves as revoked with a reason of AFFLIATION CHANGED.

Thoughts anyone?  Coworker opening PMR as I type.

Bob


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Re: z/OS Web Based Dropbox ?

2016-12-01 Thread Ken Smith
z/OS DFS Distributed File Service sounds like a fit but it's not web based;
appears to windows clients as a shared drive.  Linux clients use SAMBA.
Security is standard Unix permissions.  Haven't looked in several years but
encrypted sessions weren't supported then.

Ken

On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 3:47 PM, Kirk Wolf  wrote:

> Thanks David,
>
> I wasn't really thinking of Tomcat + JspWiki as a solution for this, but
> perhaps I still don't understand Lionel's requirement.
>
> FWIW:  We just released an updated port of our free "T:Z QuickStart for
> Tomcat" package  (a z/OS-friendly packaging and installer for Apache
> Tomcat).
>
> -- It now supports Java 7,8 and Tomcat 8.5
>
> https://www.dovetail.com/products/tomcat.html
> https://www.dovetail.com/downloads/tomcat/index.html
>
>
> Kirk Wolf
> Dovetailed Technologies
> http://dovetail.com
>
> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 12:18 PM, Jousma, David 
> wrote:
>
> > Well, its overkill, but you could download/install Dovetails ported copy
> > of TOMCAT/Wiki.   Create pages, secure them to your self, attach files,
> all
> > done via browser.  I'm surprised Kirk didn’t suggest that.
> >
> > _
> > Dave Jousma
> > Manager Mainframe Engineering, Assistant Vice President
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> > f 616.653.2717
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> > Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2016 9:55 AM
> > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> > Subject: Re: z/OS Web Based Dropbox ?
> >
> > Do you mean a cloud storage style API *client* or *server* for z/OS?
> >
> > Kirk Wolf
> > Dovetailed Technologies
> > http://dovetail.com
> >
> > On Tue, Nov 29, 2016 at 12:12 PM, Dyck, Lionel B. (TRA) <
> > lionel.d...@va.gov>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Does anyone know of a z/OS web based dropbox application that will
> > > allow a user to upload a file securely and to download a file securely?
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > > Btw. open source is fine
> > >
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Erich Bloch, Who Helped Develop IBM Mainframe, Dies at 91

2016-12-01 Thread Dave Jones
Sad news:

Erich Bloch, Who Helped Develop IBM Mainframe, Dies at 91

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/30/technology/erich-bloch-who-helped-develop-ibm-mainframe-dies-at-91.html?smid=li-share&_r=0

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Re: Question about memory usage under z/OS 2.2

2016-12-01 Thread Vernooij, Kees (ITOPT1) - KLM
Paul,

Thanks for the update.
We are running 2.1 and did not have the problem, so we will probably not see it 
in 2.2 either.

Regards,
Kees.

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Sent: 01 December, 2016 15:53
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: Question about memory usage under z/OS 2.2

Kees, APAR PI72631 may interest you.  This APAR was opened up because of our 
issue we ran into under z/OS 2.2.  We are being told this also affects z/OS 
2.1.  This APAR really does nothing for the overall memory usage.  As for the 
memory usage, IBM made a change in z/OS 2.2 around how they handle CSM storage 
which caused an increase in size.  We have setup some automation to issue the " 
MODIFY vtamname,CSM,FIXED=xxxM" command if we get constrained on CSM storage.


  APAR Identifier .. PI72631  Last Changed  16/11/23
  LOCK CONTENTION WHEN CSM STORAGE GOES CONSTRAINED
 
 
  Symptom .. PR PERFM Status ... OPEN
  Severity ... 1  Date Closed .
  Component .. 5655HAL00  Duplicate of 
  Reported Release . 210  Fixed Release 
  Component Name TCP/IP V3 MVSSpecial Notice
  Current Target Date ..16/12/21  Flags
  SCP ...
  Platform 


Thanks..

Paul Feller
AGT Mainframe Technical Support

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Paul,

We are going to 2.2 soon. Do you have information about the problems? APAR 
numbers, PTFs?

Thanks,

Kees.



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Sent: 11 October, 2016 23:12

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Subject: Re: Question about memory usage under z/OS 2.2


Mike, thanks for the information.  I will review the documents.  An update on 
one of our issues. It looks like IBM has found some type of bug related to CSM 
storage management.  I'm being told an APAR is going to be created.


Thanks..

Paul Feller
AGT Mainframe Technical Support



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Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2016 04:33
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: Question about memory usage under z/OS 2.2

If you were running close to the limit prior to upgrade to z/OS V2.2 without 
realising it you may just need to review some settings.

CSM with D NET,CSM and SYS1.PARMLIB(IVTPRM00) are a good place to start. 

You may need to look at this if you've added IP interfaces or turned on 
multiple OSA queues.

InbPerf: Dynamic

  WorkloadQueueing: Yes

Also D NET,BFRUSE

Try these Share presentations.

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Re: Question about memory usage under z/OS 2.2

2016-12-01 Thread Feller, Paul
Kees, APAR PI72631 may interest you.  This APAR was opened up because of our 
issue we ran into under z/OS 2.2.  We are being told this also affects z/OS 
2.1.  This APAR really does nothing for the overall memory usage.  As for the 
memory usage, IBM made a change in z/OS 2.2 around how they handle CSM storage 
which caused an increase in size.  We have setup some automation to issue the " 
MODIFY vtamname,CSM,FIXED=xxxM" command if we get constrained on CSM storage.


  APAR Identifier .. PI72631  Last Changed  16/11/23
  LOCK CONTENTION WHEN CSM STORAGE GOES CONSTRAINED
 
 
  Symptom .. PR PERFM Status ... OPEN
  Severity ... 1  Date Closed .
  Component .. 5655HAL00  Duplicate of 
  Reported Release . 210  Fixed Release 
  Component Name TCP/IP V3 MVSSpecial Notice
  Current Target Date ..16/12/21  Flags
  SCP ...
  Platform 


Thanks..

Paul Feller
AGT Mainframe Technical Support

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Paul,

We are going to 2.2 soon. Do you have information about the problems? APAR 
numbers, PTFs?

Thanks,

Kees.



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Mike, thanks for the information.  I will review the documents.  An update on 
one of our issues. It looks like IBM has found some type of bug related to CSM 
storage management.  I'm being told an APAR is going to be created.


Thanks..

Paul Feller
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Subject: Re: Question about memory usage under z/OS 2.2

If you were running close to the limit prior to upgrade to z/OS V2.2 without 
realising it you may just need to review some settings.

CSM with D NET,CSM and SYS1.PARMLIB(IVTPRM00) are a good place to start. 

You may need to look at this if you've added IP interfaces or turned on 
multiple OSA queues.

InbPerf: Dynamic

  WorkloadQueueing: Yes

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Re: TSO Setup on SSH

2016-12-01 Thread Mullen, Patrick
Venkat,

Go to https://dovetail.com/solutions.html and get yourself a copy of their 
utterly fine product Co:Z SFTP, which will enable you to do exactly what you 
want. The installation doc has examples which will have you sftp-ing sequential 
and PDS datasets in no time. And best of all, you may use the product free of 
charge under their community license.




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Subject: Re: TSO Setup on SSH

Hello David, yes I am aware that sftp process only Unix files but I heard that 
we have other of transferring traditional mvs dataset like we can first 
transfer mvs dataset to omvs and then do sftp.

But I never did this before, so I am requesting to help on sample JCL.

On Dec 1, 2016 09:13, "David Crayford"  wrote:

> On 1/12/2016 1:14 PM, venkat kulkarni wrote:
>
>> Do anybody have sample batch job to transfer data using sftp.
>>
>> Currently we using FTP in batch job PGM but not sure what program we 
>> should use for sftp and format of JCL to transfer  sequential and PDs 
>> datasets.
>>
>
> sftp only supports UNIX files so you're out of luck if you want to 
> process traditional MVS data sets (as mentioned in a previous thread).
>
> Thnaks
>>
>> On Nov 29, 2016 09:51, "Jack J. Woehr"  wrote:
>>
>> David Crayford wrote:
>>
>> Yep. It's part of Rockets ported tools http://www.rocketsoftware.com/
>>> ported-tools.
>>>
>>> Very cool, had no idea they were there.
>>
>>
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Re: CALLLIBS and non-existent library

2016-12-01 Thread Lizette Koehler
I would think that in some part of this process it asked if you had PL/I.  If
you do not have it, then there should be some way to let the product know not to
include PL/I modules.


The product structure for PL/I has changed from the previous PL/I version. Most
JCL and CLISTs that link-edit a PL/I application using the OS PL/I library must
be changed. These changes include:

The OS PL/I multitasking library PLITASK has been replaced by SIBMTASK,
which is required to have multitasking support. SIBMTASK must be concatenated
before SCEELKED.

Note that Enterprise PL/I for z/OS does not currently support multitasking.
Language Environment continues to support PL/I multitasking for PL/I for MVS &
VM as well as previous, supported levels of the PL/I product.
The PLIBASE and SIBMBASE libraries have been replaced by:
SCEELKED, which contains resident routines that are linked with the
application and are used to resolve external references at link-edit time.
SIBMMATH, which contains the stubs for old OS PL/I V2R3 math library
routines. In link-edit steps, this library must precede SCEELKED if old math
results are desired in a particular executable program.
SIBMCALL, which is required to provide PLICALLA and PLICALLB
compatibility if PL/I for MVS & VM applications use OS PL/I PLICALLA or PLICALLB
as an entry point. SIBMCALL must be concatenated before SCEELKED.
SIBMCAL2, which is very similar to SIBMCALL, but is only used with
Enterprise PL/I for z/OS.

Note:
SCEELKED and SIBMCAL2 are the only libraries that apply for Enterprise PL/I
for z/OS.


If it is looking for SIBMCALL then it is probably going to want the PLICALLA and
PLICALLB modules.


Lizette


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> Subject: CALLLIBS and non-existent library
> 
> During SMP/E installation of some product APPLY fails because there is no
> SIBMCALL dddef.
> This is part of PL/I which I don't have.
> PL/I is not a prerequisite of the product.
> 
> Any clue?
> 
> My wild ideas:
> 1. Define DDDEF entry for SIBMCALL and point to SYS1.LINKLIB or empty loadlib.
> 2. Edit MCS to remove SIBMCALL from the list.
> 
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Re: LAST ALTER date in GDG base.

2016-12-01 Thread Klaus Stanislawiak
According to this announcement by the late Mark Thomen:
https://listserv.ua.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0201=ibm-main-archives=0=D===425524
the corresponding field GDGALTDT has been added to the Catalog Search Interface 
for z/OS 1.3 .
The catalog field has probably existed before.

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CALLLIBS and non-existent library

2016-12-01 Thread R.S.
During SMP/E installation of some product APPLY fails because there is 
no SIBMCALL dddef.

This is part of PL/I which I don't have.
PL/I is not a prerequisite of the product.

Any clue?

My wild ideas:
1. Define DDDEF entry for SIBMCALL and point to SYS1.LINKLIB or empty 
loadlib.

2. Edit MCS to remove SIBMCALL from the list.

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Re: LAST ALTER date in GDG base.

2016-12-01 Thread Nims,Alva John (Al)
>From "DFSMS Access Method Services for Catalogs" (z/OS 1.13 version)
LAST ALTER DATE-The julian date (.DDD) on which the GDG base was last 
altered, by adding or removing a GDS.

I have no idea what a value of .000 indicates, probably have to look in 
some control block listing to find.

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Hello,

IDCAMS LISTC of a GDG base shows a LAST ALTER date. When was this introduced? I 
can't find this.

We think we can interpret a date .000 as 'not altered' or 'altered before 
yymmdd'.

Thanks,
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Re: MIPS Calculation formula

2016-12-01 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Itschak Mugzach wrote:

>THere used to be a rexx that calculates mips and msus. Try this link at the 
>bottom
>http://bit.listserv.tsorexx.narkive.com/KXbgme2w/res-tso-rexx-rexx-to-calculate-mips-and-msu

Yes, thanks! There is a nice REXX program there.

If you are refering to Mark Zelden's site which contains IPLINFO, look at 

http://mzelden.com/mvsutil.html 

It seemed to me http://home.flash.net/~mzelden/mvsutil.html is not working?

Groete / Greetings
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Host On Demand Java Certificate issues

2016-12-01 Thread Richards, Robert B.
Has anyone else experienced Java certificate issues using HOD?

We have trusted certs issued from IBM Canada for Verisign that are not expired, 
but are presenting themselves as revoked with a reason of AFFLIATION CHANGED.

Thoughts anyone?  Coworker opening PMR as I type.

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LAST ALTER date in GDG base.

2016-12-01 Thread Vernooij, Kees (ITOPT1) - KLM
Hello,

IDCAMS LISTC of a GDG base shows a LAST ALTER date. When was this introduced? I 
can't find this.

We think we can interpret a date .000 as 'not altered' or 'altered before 
yymmdd'.

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Re: TSO Setup on SSH

2016-12-01 Thread John McKown
On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 11:14 PM, venkat kulkarni <
venkatkulkarn...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Do anybody have sample batch job to transfer data using sftp.
>
> Currently we using FTP in batch job PGM but not sure what program we should
> use for sftp and format of JCL to transfer  sequential and PDs datasets.
>
> Thnaks
>
>
​I'll avoid all the advice that you've been given about Co:Z from
Dovetailed Technologies (although I totally agree with it). I will assume
that you only have "normal" IBM supplied software and that the remote end
has a regular SSH server running. What I am unsure of is whether you
actually want to use "sftp" or if "scp" would be acceptable. So I will give
examples of both to allow you to choose which you prefer. The JCL will be
identical. In fact, I will show how I would do both transfers, first using
"sftp" and secondly using "scp"

//JOBNAME JOB ACCT,NAME,CLASS=A,MSGCLASS=H,
// NOTIFY=
//SFTP EXEC PGM=IKJEFT01,REGION=0M
//SYSTSPRT DD   SYSOUT=*
//SYSEXEC  DD   DISP=SHR,DSN=SYS1.SBPXEXEC (MAY BE DIFFERENT)
//SYSTSIN  DD   *
OPUT 'SOME.DATA.SET.NAME' '/tmp/SOME.FILE.NAME'
OSHELL { echo 'password'; +
 echo 'cd /tmp'; +
 echo 'ascii'; +
 echo 'put /tmp/SOME.FILE.NAME'; } | +
   sftp -v use...@remote.ssh.server
/*
//* CHANGE password TO ACTUAL PASSWORD
//* CHANGE cd COMMAND TO ACTUAL REMOTE DIRECTORY
//* REMOVE ascii LINE FOR BINARY TRANSFER
//* CHANGE userid TO REMOTE USER'S ID
//* CHANGE remote.ssh.server TO ACTUAL DNS NAME/IP ADDR
//SFTP EXEC PGM=IKJEFT01,REGION=0M
//SYSTSPRT DD   SYSOUT=*
//SYSEXEC  DD   DISP=SHR,DSN=SYS1.SBPXEXEC (MAY BE DIFFERENT)
//SYSTSIN  DD   *
OPUT 'SOME.DATA.SET.NAME' '/tmp/SOME.FILE.NAME'
OSHELL echo 'password'; +
   scp /tmp/SOME.FILE.NAME +
   use...@remote.ssh.server:-
/tmp/SOME.UNIXFILE.NAME
/*
//* CHANGE password TO ACTUAL PASSWORD
//* CHANGE userid TO ACTUAL REMOTE USER ID
//* CHANGE remote.ssh.server TO ACTUAL DNS NAME/IP ADDR
//*  CRITICAL 
//* Note that scp command is spread over 3 lines due to
//* length of SYSTSIN input line. TSO will concatenate
//* them together into one logical line. IT IS CRITICAL
//* that you notice that I put the output file name
//* (/tmp/SOME.UNIXFILE.NAME) on its own line
//* IT IS CRITICAL that this start in column 1.
//* IT IS ALSO CRITICAL that the previous line
//* end in a dash instead of a plus and that the dash
//* is _IMMEDIATELY_ after the colon. This is to
//* force TSO to concatenate all these characters together
//* without any spaces, which would destroy the UNIX
//* command line.
//
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Re: MIPS Calculation formula

2016-12-01 Thread Itschak Mugzach
THere used to be a rexx that calculates mips and msus. Try this link at the
bottom
http://bit.listserv.tsorexx.narkive.com/KXbgme2w/res-tso-rexx-rexx-to-calculate-mips-and-msu

Best,
ITschak

ITschak Mugzach
Z/OS, ISV Products and Application Security & Risk Assessments Professional

On Thu, Dec 1, 2016 at 1:49 PM, Elardus Engelbrecht <
elardus.engelbre...@sita.co.za> wrote:

> Radoslaw Skorupka wrote:
>
> >That's why I used quotation marks for "meaningless".
> >MIPS definitions is weak, there's another measure: MSU.
>
> Yup. I'm familiar with MSU.
>
> >MSU is good, because it's known for public with no fee.
> >MSU is good, because there no multiple different MSU tables, there's one
> source of information.
>
> And Sub Capacity Report is using MSU. So no disputes.
>
> >MSU is bad, because of IBM tricks ("marketing" MSU vs "technical" MSU)
> since z990 GA.
>
> Sigh, I still don't get all those pricing schemes, but then I'm not a
> manager...
>
> ;-D
>
> Groete / Greetings
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Re: MIPS Calculation formula

2016-12-01 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Radoslaw Skorupka wrote:

>That's why I used quotation marks for "meaningless".
>MIPS definitions is weak, there's another measure: MSU.

Yup. I'm familiar with MSU.

>MSU is good, because it's known for public with no fee.
>MSU is good, because there no multiple different MSU tables, there's one 
>source of information.

And Sub Capacity Report is using MSU. So no disputes.

>MSU is bad, because of IBM tricks ("marketing" MSU vs "technical" MSU) since 
>z990 GA.

Sigh, I still don't get all those pricing schemes, but then I'm not a manager...

;-D

Groete / Greetings
Elardus Engelbrecht

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Re: MIPS Calculation formula

2016-12-01 Thread R.S.

W dniu 2016-12-01 o 11:56, Elardus Engelbrecht pisze:

Radoslaw Skorupka wrote:


Note: every MIPS table can differ slightly due to "meaningless" value of MIPS.

"meaningless"! Hahaha!

Are there alternatives to MIPS? Service Units? Dispatch speed? Other 
measurement methods?

Also, what mixture of instructions [on what hardware type!] are used to 
calculate that MIPS?

For me, MIPS is 'useful', but with the usual disclaimers, cautions, pinch of 
salt, etc. With that value, you can estimate in a way how that machine can 
handle a specific workload mix, or for the OP, how many x records (SMF, SYSLOG, 
etc) it can process in wallclock time hh:mm:ss.

Using IBM, Cheryl Watson, Gartner, etc. MIPS tables are somewhat useful for 
comparing machine X with machine Y and justify your costs and overhead.

I am still curious about the OP's goal.


That's why I used quotation marks for "meaningless".
MIPS definitions is weak, there's another measure: MSU.
MSU is good, because it's known for public with no fee.
MSU is good, because there no multiple different MSU tables, there's one 
source of information.
MSU is bad, because of IBM tricks ("marketing" MSU vs "technical" MSU) 
since z990 GA.


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Re: MIPS Calculation formula

2016-12-01 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Radoslaw Skorupka wrote:

>Note: every MIPS table can differ slightly due to "meaningless" value of MIPS. 

"meaningless"! Hahaha! 

Are there alternatives to MIPS? Service Units? Dispatch speed? Other 
measurement methods?

Also, what mixture of instructions [on what hardware type!] are used to 
calculate that MIPS?

For me, MIPS is 'useful', but with the usual disclaimers, cautions, pinch of 
salt, etc. With that value, you can estimate in a way how that machine can 
handle a specific workload mix, or for the OP, how many x records (SMF, SYSLOG, 
etc) it can process in wallclock time hh:mm:ss.

Using IBM, Cheryl Watson, Gartner, etc. MIPS tables are somewhat useful for 
comparing machine X with machine Y and justify your costs and overhead.

I am still curious about the OP's goal.

Groete / Greetings
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Re: MIPS Calculation formula

2016-12-01 Thread R.S.

IMHO the best way to obtain MIPS for given machine:

1. Find out the machine model and capacity marker. D M=CPU in z/OS or 
right click on CPC icon on HMC, or ...or some people working on it 
simply should know it.


2. Go to IBM site called LSPR and read "PCI index" which is MIPS value.

Note: every MIPS table can differ slightly due to "meaningless" value of 
MIPS. However is it really important whether your machine has 4624 or 
4622 MIPS???

Why?

I know one reason: software contracts. BTDT. Whenever I informed about 
HW upgrade (to get invoice) they corrected my MIPS value, because I took 
the value from IBM and they took it from Gartner report which is quite 
expensive. Of course the difference was worth a pack o peanuts, but the 
paperwork was bothering.


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Re: Question about memory usage under z/OS 2.2

2016-12-01 Thread Vernooij, Kees (ITOPT1) - KLM
Paul,

We are going to 2.2 soon. Do you have information about the problems? APAR 
numbers, PTFs?

Thanks,
Kees.

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Mike, thanks for the information.  I will review the documents.  An update on 
one of our issues. It looks like IBM has found some type of bug related to CSM 
storage management.  I'm being told an APAR is going to be created.

Thanks..

Paul Feller
AGT Mainframe Technical Support

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If you were running close to the limit prior to upgrade to z/OS V2.2 without 
realising it you may just need to review some settings.



CSM with D NET,CSM and SYS1.PARMLIB(IVTPRM00) are a good place to start. 

You may need to look at this if you've added IP interfaces or turned on 
multiple OSA queues.

InbPerf: Dynamic

  WorkloadQueueing: Yes



Also D NET,BFRUSE



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