Re: Can anyone remember "drum" storage?
I don't believe you looked at the pictures or the short video. The heads are not reading the same platters. Tony Thigpen Joel C. Ewing wrote on 12/20/2017 09:15 AM: I don't think so. Says each R/W head accesses same disk blocks, and there would be zilch improvement in speed if they were simply seen by OS as two independent disks. By electronically selecting which of the two heads to use to read the track based on which sees the start of the desired block first, you cut the rotational latency time in half. With a single R/W head the only way to get the same reduction in latency delay would be to double the rotational speed of the platter, which might cause greater problems. J C Ewing On 12/20/2017 07:18 AM, Tony Thigpen wrote: From reading the description, it really just appears to the OS as two drives in one housing. Tony Thigpen John McKown wrote on 12/20/2017 08:08 AM: It's not really a drum, but it is getting closer. Of course, for true speed, one should go SSD. http://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/12/19/seagate_disk_drive_multi_actuator/ [quote] Seagate is increasing IO performance in disk drives by separating read-write heads into two separate sets which can operate independently and in parallel. The heads are positioned at one end of actuator arms which rotate around a post at their other end to move the heads across the platter surfaces. Thus, with an eight-platter drive, each read-write head is positioned above the same cylindrical track on each platter and reads or writes to and from the same disk blocks on each platter's surface. [\quote] -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Can anyone remember "drum" storage?
From reading the description, it really just appears to the OS as two drives in one housing. Tony Thigpen John McKown wrote on 12/20/2017 08:08 AM: It's not really a drum, but it is getting closer. Of course, for true speed, one should go SSD. http://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/12/19/seagate_disk_drive_multi_actuator/ [quote] Seagate is increasing IO performance in disk drives by separating read-write heads into two separate sets which can operate independently and in parallel. The heads are positioned at one end of actuator arms which rotate around a post at their other end to move the heads across the platter surfaces. Thus, with an eight-platter drive, each read-write head is positioned above the same cylindrical track on each platter and reads or writes to and from the same disk blocks on each platter's surface. [\quote] -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Rexx console question
Woops. Just realized that (E)JES is a software product. I initially read
it as JES 4.5, not (E)JES 4.5.
Don't have it, but the SDSF is a good suggestion that I will try.
Still, thanks Ed.
Tony Thigpen
Tony Thigpen wrote on 12/19/2017 11:27 AM:
Ed,
Thanks. I did find you presentation about it when I googled it. I am
going to read it shortly.
Finding doc for this stuff in z/OS is a *lot* harder than in z/VSE. It
seems to be spread over many manuals whereas in z/VSE they mention
everything in the REXX reference manual.
I am still googling to find
One question. I am at RELEASE z/OS 01.13.00. What version of JES2 am I
running?
Tony Thigpen
Ed Jaffe wrote on 12/19/2017 11:06 AM:
On 12/19/2017 1:31 AM, Tony Thigpen wrote:
I am using CONSOLE ACTIVATE in batch jobs to issue messages to the
operator.
Most of the time, it works flawlessly, but if two jobs are running at
the same time, one of the jobs receives an error on the ACTIVATE ane
the message is never issued.
MCS does not allow two consoles with the same name to be active in the
sysplex at the same time. It does not appear from your example that you
need to inspect the command response. Therefore, you probably don't need
a console at all for this command i.e., you could send it from the
internal console.
To do this using (E)JES, you would replace all of your REXX CONSOLE
stuff with simply:
cmd = "$D M,D=OSCAR."who",'"info"'"
rc = ejesrexx("EXECAPI 0 'I/"cmd"' (TERM")
If you only have SDSF available, you could do it like this:
rc = isfcalls('ON')
cmd.0 = 1
cmd.1 = "$D M,D=OSCAR."who",'"info"'"
address SDSF "ISFSLASH (cmd.) (INTERNAL)"
rc = isfcalls('OFF')
There might also be "freeware" programs on the CBT tape that will issue
a simple MGCR[E] for you. Or you could roll your own. It's only a few
lines of code.
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Re: Rexx console question
Ed,
Thanks. I did find you presentation about it when I googled it. I am
going to read it shortly.
Finding doc for this stuff in z/OS is a *lot* harder than in z/VSE. It
seems to be spread over many manuals whereas in z/VSE they mention
everything in the REXX reference manual.
I am still googling to find
One question. I am at RELEASE z/OS 01.13.00. What version of JES2 am I
running?
Tony Thigpen
Ed Jaffe wrote on 12/19/2017 11:06 AM:
On 12/19/2017 1:31 AM, Tony Thigpen wrote:
I am using CONSOLE ACTIVATE in batch jobs to issue messages to the
operator.
Most of the time, it works flawlessly, but if two jobs are running at
the same time, one of the jobs receives an error on the ACTIVATE ane
the message is never issued.
MCS does not allow two consoles with the same name to be active in the
sysplex at the same time. It does not appear from your example that you
need to inspect the command response. Therefore, you probably don't need
a console at all for this command i.e., you could send it from the
internal console.
To do this using (E)JES, you would replace all of your REXX CONSOLE
stuff with simply:
cmd = "$D M,D=OSCAR."who",'"info"'"
rc = ejesrexx("EXECAPI 0 'I/"cmd"' (TERM")
If you only have SDSF available, you could do it like this:
rc = isfcalls('ON')
cmd.0 = 1
cmd.1 = "$D M,D=OSCAR."who",'"info"'"
address SDSF "ISFSLASH (cmd.) (INTERNAL)"
rc = isfcalls('OFF')
There might also be "freeware" programs on the CBT tape that will issue
a simple MGCR[E] for you. Or you could roll your own. It's only a few
lines of code.
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Rexx console question
I am using CONSOLE ACTIVATE in batch jobs to issue messages to the operator.
Most of the time, it works flawlessly, but if two jobs are running at
the same time, one of the jobs receives an error on the ACTIVATE ane the
message is never issued.
I am using running the rexx using IKJEFT01. Both jobs are under the same
userid.
/* JOBZSMSG job processing response REXX */
trace off
"CONSOLE ACTIVATE"
pull info
ii = words(info)
who = word(info,ii)
cmd = "$D M,D=OSCAR."who",'"info"'"
"CONSOLE SYSCMD("Cmd")"
say cmd
"CONSOLE DEACTIVATE"
exit 0
Anybody have any suggestions?
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SysRexx - MPFNREXX bug found
I have found what I would consider a bug in MPFNREXX. Others may find it WOD. The exit expects the first 8 characters of the message line to be the message number. We are trying to eliminate a product that placed messages on the console that were shorter than 8 characters. Such as: ZADD A B The exit was passing to AXREXX a rexx name of 'ZADD AAA'. Then, an error would be returned saying that rexx 'ZADD AAA' could not be found in the rexx library. I have quick fix now. I will clean it up a bit and see if I can get it back to the original author. * Author: Dana Mitchell dmit...@shazam.net It may not matter to anyone else, but if anyone needs the same fix, let me know. -- Tony Thigpen -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: SysRexx, MPF exit and debugging (answered)
Found that I have to put a DSN into the MPF exit program that uses the ASREXX macro. Tony Thigpen Tony Thigpen wrote on 12/08/2017 11:53 AM: We have SysRexx running. We are using the MPFNREXX interface that is being shared around. Everything is working from a set-up perspective. Short SysRexx members are working. But, now I tying to write the rexx to handle more significant situations. When I have some bad code in my rexx, I get a cryptic set of messages on the console. Where does the normal 'rexx error messages' and 'trace output' go when running a SysRexx? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
SysRexx, MPF exit and debugging
We have SysRexx running. We are using the MPFNREXX interface that is being shared around. Everything is working from a set-up perspective. Short SysRexx members are working. But, now I tying to write the rexx to handle more significant situations. When I have some bad code in my rexx, I get a cryptic set of messages on the console. Where does the normal 'rexx error messages' and 'trace output' go when running a SysRexx? -- Tony Thigpen -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Consolidate Consoles
That is a thought. Tony Thigpen Tom Brennan wrote on 11/27/2017 11:58 PM: A bit far-fetched, but: Create a HLLAPI application that reads a number of minimized ICC terminal emulators and piles all the console messages into a single display. Use a different text color for each - just like sysplexed consoles do. For command input, have the operator open that particular emulator window. That way you avoid HLLAPI code for command input and routing, and (more importantly) you force the user to focus their attention on one system. Once the command is entered, minimize the emulator window and the big HLLAPI application with all the messages shows again. Tony Thigpen wrote: That is what I initially suggested. Then they said "but can we do it with one session window open?" Thus my question. Tony Thigpen Porowski, Kenneth wrote on 11/27/2017 04:20 PM: A single PC with multiple 3270 sessions to an ICC would work, just get a monitor(s) big enough to see/read all the sessions at the same time. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Tony Thigpen Sent: Monday, November 27, 2017 2:58 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: [IBM-MAIN] Consolidate Consoles I have been asked about "Console Consolidation" for our multiple zOS LPARs. Management wants to know what is available that will let us have one display with all the console traffic from 5 LPARs. They are envisioning a PC based solution, but we have the ability to run something on zVM. (These z/OS LPARs are not under z/VM, but we have z/VM on another CPU with NJE interconnection.) Thoughts? -- Tony Thigpen -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Consolidate Consoles
That is what I initially suggested. Then they said "but can we do it with one session window open?" Thus my question. Tony Thigpen Porowski, Kenneth wrote on 11/27/2017 04:20 PM: A single PC with multiple 3270 sessions to an ICC would work, just get a monitor(s) big enough to see/read all the sessions at the same time. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Tony Thigpen Sent: Monday, November 27, 2017 2:58 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: [IBM-MAIN] Consolidate Consoles I have been asked about "Console Consolidation" for our multiple zOS LPARs. Management wants to know what is available that will let us have one display with all the console traffic from 5 LPARs. They are envisioning a PC based solution, but we have the ability to run something on zVM. (These z/OS LPARs are not under z/VM, but we have z/VM on another CPU with NJE interconnection.) Thoughts? -- Tony Thigpen -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Consolidate Consoles
We are currently not set up as a sysplex. And, don't really want to. Tony Thigpen John McKown wrote on 11/27/2017 03:03 PM: On Mon, Nov 27, 2017 at 1:58 PM, Tony Thigpen <t...@vse2pdf.com> wrote: I have been asked about "Console Consolidation" for our multiple zOS LPARs. Management wants to know what is available that will let us have one display with all the console traffic from 5 LPARs. They are envisioning a PC based solution, but we have the ability to run something on zVM. (These z/OS LPARs are not under z/VM, but we have z/VM on another CPU with NJE interconnection.) Thoughts? The simplest way is to have all your LPARs in a single sysplex. That automatically makes messages from every LPAR available to every other LPAR. If you run a parallel sysplex, then, as Allan said, use OPERLOG instead of SYSLOG for recording. -- Tony Thigpen -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Consolidate Consoles
I have been asked about "Console Consolidation" for our multiple zOS LPARs. Management wants to know what is available that will let us have one display with all the console traffic from 5 LPARs. They are envisioning a PC based solution, but we have the ability to run something on zVM. (These z/OS LPARs are not under z/VM, but we have z/VM on another CPU with NJE interconnection.) Thoughts? -- Tony Thigpen -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: IEBUPDTE question
Hundred+ members. As I mentioned (but it got lost in the what is midnight argument), I used a CBT program to perform the adds. I just modified it to pass-though the ./ INCLUDE cards as data cards. Tony Thigpen Wayne Bickerdike wrote on 11/20/2017 11:39 PM: oops, Change all the unwanted ./ cards to ## or similar. After the IEBUPDTE, change them back to ./ On Tue, Nov 21, 2017 at 3:32 PM, Wayne Bickerdike <wayn...@gmail.com> wrote: Assuming the cards with a ./ don't have the correct syntax, why not do an EXCLUDE ALL, FIND ALL ./. EXCLUDE all the correct ./ cards and then do a DEL ALL NX On Mon, Nov 20, 2017 at 2:45 PM, Tony Thigpen <t...@vse2pdf.com> wrote: I need to catalog a bunch of jobs into a PDS during a conversion. The source system utility creates an IEBUPDTE job for this purpose. Unfortunately, some of the data within these jobs steams contain a './' at the start of the card record. IEBUPDTE thinks they are control cards and cancels the catalog of the new member. At this point, the only thing I think should work is to individually FTP these members and bypass IEBUPDTE, but that will be a real hassle. I am looking for suggestions on how to get these members cataloged. -- Tony Thigpen -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- Wayne V. Bickerdike -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: IEBUPDTE question
Condor from Phoenix Systems. Condor uses the ./ INCLUDE card during job submission. We are not getting away from Condor, but I need to move a couple of CamLibs to MVS PDS libs until I can update to a newer release of Condor that supports FTP access. (Condor can pretend that a PDS lib is a CamLib during this temporary phase so the users don't know the library has been relocated.) Tony Thigpen Paul Gilmartin wrote on 11/20/2017 11:57 AM: On Sun, 19 Nov 2017 22:45:10 -0500, Tony Thigpen wrote: I need to catalog a bunch of jobs into a PDS during a conversion. The source system utility creates an IEBUPDTE job for this purpose. Just curious: what are the "source system" and its "utility"? The "shar" (shell archive) utility, not POSIX but widely available, does this sort of thing nicely. Unfortunately, some of the data within these jobs steams contain a './' at the start of the card record. IEBUPDTE thinks they are control cards and cancels the catalog of the new member. The designers of IEBUPDTE had dreadful tunnel vision in failing to anticipate that your problem would never occur. Job streams containing IEBUPDTE steps are commonplace. -- gil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: IEBUPDTE question
Thanks all. I have resolved the issue. I extracted PDSLOAD from CBT 316, then modified it to retain the ./ INCLUDE as data cards. (Yes, I need to keep them in the members as such.) Tony Thigpen Wendell Lovewell wrote on 11/20/2017 09:40 AM: Hey Tony, For $1000 a year our Global Search and Replace can unload and load a whole PDS, optionally making changes to the members. Maybe not a great one-time solution but a handy tool to have around. You could write a REXX program to read the file and call IEBUPDTE for each member, ignoring the ./ records. Myself, if I was starting with a PC file, I'd write a KEDIT macro to split them up and use FTP with MPUT. Wendell Lovewell MacKinney Systems -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
IEBUPDTE question
I need to catalog a bunch of jobs into a PDS during a conversion. The source system utility creates an IEBUPDTE job for this purpose. Unfortunately, some of the data within these jobs steams contain a './' at the start of the card record. IEBUPDTE thinks they are control cards and cancels the catalog of the new member. At this point, the only thing I think should work is to individually FTP these members and bypass IEBUPDTE, but that will be a real hassle. I am looking for suggestions on how to get these members cataloged. -- Tony Thigpen -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
System Rexx - Shutdown Exec
Before I re-invent the wheel, does anybody have a System Rexx system shutdown routine that they are willing to share? I need something smart enough to actually look at what is running and then shutdown everything in sequence as each previous shutdown completes. -- Tony Thigpen -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Missing C module 'MSGDLL'
I am running a vendor supplied program and it is abending with: CEE3501S THE MODULE MSGDLL WAS NOT FOUND. The following is some of the logs. (I have masked the vendor program name and service.) CEE3DMP V1 R13.0: CONDITION PROCESSING RESULTED IN THE UNHANDLED CONDITION TRACEBACK: DSA ENTRYLOAD MOD PROGRAM UNIT SERVICE STATUS 1 CEEHDSP CEEPLPKA CEEHDSP UK80866 CALL 2 CEEHSGLT CEEPLPKA CEEHSGLT HLE7780 EXCEPTION 3 CEEPTLOR CEEPLPKA CEEPTLOR HLE7780 CALL 4 @@TRGLOC CEEEV003 CALL 5 INITIALIZE *masked* *** CALL 6 MAIN *masked* *** CALL 7 EDCZMINV CEEEV003 CALL 8 CEEBBEXT CEEPLPKA CEEBBEXT HLE7780 CALL DSA DSA ADDR COMP DATE COMPILE ATTRIBUTES 1 15430860 20120806 CEL POSIX 2 1542FCD0 20110318 CEL POSIX 3 1542F920 20110318 CEL POSIX 4 1542F848 03/18/11 LIBRARYPOSIX 5 1542F648 20080221 C/C++ POSIX EBCDIC HFP 6 1542F230 20080221 C/C++ POSIX EBCDIC HFP 7 1542F118 20110318 LIBRARYPOSIX 8 1542F018 20110318 CEL POSIX I am thinking I am missing a STEPLIB, but I can't seem to find 'MSGDLL' anywhere. Thoughts? -- Tony Thigpen -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: CA1 to RMM conversion
I find it interesting how much people want to charge for books IBM gave away for free. Tony Thigpen Norbert Friemel wrote on 10/25/2017 09:08 AM: On Wed, 25 Oct 2017 06:39:15 -0500, Todd Burrell wrote: We're investigating what it would take to convert from CA1 to RMM. I've looked back through the archives and most of what I see is very dated, so I was going to see if anyone has any documentation they can send me to help with this? I thought there used to be a Redbook for this, but I cannot find it. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks https://www.amazon.com/dp/0738498653 Norbert Friemel -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Transmit out class
How does TRANSMIT determine the 'class' as indicated in the NJE headers? What I am testing shows 'B' when it gets to z/VM, but on this JES2 system, the definition of OUTCLASS(B) is one of PRINT, not PUNCH so z/VM does not recognize that the file is in NETDATA format. -- Tony Thigpen -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Question on JES2 and remote non-JES nodes
Thanks Liz. I was more concerned with figuring out the routing issue that I had not had time to really search out the $DEL DEST() command. I did find the answer to the routing. It has to do with using the CONNECT statement. The JES2 terminology seems to be completely backwards from that used by zVM-RSCS or z/VSE-Power. Tony Thigpen Lizette Koehler wrote on 10/09/2017 10:23 AM: Tony A quick search in www.ibm.com with the phrase REMOVE $ADD DESTID Lead to the command $DEL This has documented Processing Considerations When you dynamically delete a JES2 symbolic destination (destid), JES2 honors the deletion across a restart only if you perform a hot start. To permanently delete the symbolic destination, remove the DEStid initialization statement before restarting JES2. Scope Single member. The values supplied for this command will be in effect for this member only. Depending on your installation's setup, however, you might want this command to be applied to all members of the MAS (to ensure a consistent environment across the MAS). If so, you can use the MVS ROUTE *ALL command to issue this command to all active members (if the JES2 command character is the same on all members). See z/OS MVS System Commands, SA38-0666 for more information on using the ROUTE *ALL command. Messages You could try the $DEL to see if that takes it out, or a hot start to permanently remove the command. It would have been nice if the $ADD would have included the remove $DEL command I have not tried to route through multiple nodes with JES2 - always node to node. So I will not be able to answer that part of your question Lizette -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Tony Thigpen Sent: Monday, October 09, 2017 5:24 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Question on JES2 and remote non-JES nodes I have a question concerning setting up NJE nodes in the following configuration: JES2(node=)-RSCS(node=)RSCS(node=) I have talking to . How do I tell that it can send stuff destined for via ? I tried: $add destid(),dest= But, things sent to are actually sent to the machine (as a synonym), and are not forwarded by to . Follow-up question: How do I 'undo' the incorrect $ADD command. -- Tony Thigpen -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Question on JES2 and remote non-JES nodes
I have a question concerning setting up NJE nodes in the following configuration: JES2(node=)-RSCS(node=)RSCS(node=) I have talking to . How do I tell that it can send stuff destined for via ? I tried: $add destid(),dest= But, things sent to are actually sent to the machine (as a synonym), and are not forwarded by to . Follow-up question: How do I 'undo' the incorrect $ADD command. -- Tony Thigpen -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Looking for Redbook: Converting to Dfsmsrmm from Zara and Automedia
Allan, did you even try your own suggestion? Because it fails. Don't you think that the main redbook site would be the first place someone would look for a redbook? The book does not come up in a search there. And now that I have a copy of the book a search for the pub-number also does not show up on the redbook site. Tony Thigpen Allan Staller wrote on 10/06/2017 09:04 AM: http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/ -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Tony Thigpen Sent: Friday, October 6, 2017 7:25 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Looking for Redbook: Converting to Dfsmsrmm from Zara and Automedia I am looking for a copy of the fedbook: Converting to Dfsmsrmm from Zara and Automedia I don't have an IBM book number. I found this book using google, but can't find it on the redbook site. -- Tony Thigpen -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN ::DISCLAIMER:: The contents of this e-mail and any attachment(s) are confidential and intended for the named recipient(s) only. E-mail transmission is not guaranteed to be secure or error-free as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, or may contain viruses in transmission. The e mail and its contents (with or without referred errors) shall therefore not attach any liability on the originator or HCL or its affiliates. Views or opinions, if any, presented in this email are solely those of the author and may not necessarily reflect the views or opinions of HCL or its affiliates. Any form of reproduction, dissemination, copying, disclosure, modification, distribution and / or publication of this message without the prior written consent of authorized representative of HCL is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error please delete it and notify the sender immediately. Before opening any email and/or attachments, please check them for viruses and other defects. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Looking for Redbook: Converting to Dfsmsrmm from Zara and Automedia
I have received a copy off-line. Thanks. Tony Thigpen Tony Thigpen wrote on 10/06/2017 08:25 AM: I am looking for a copy of the fedbook: Converting to Dfsmsrmm from Zara and Automedia I don't have an IBM book number. I found this book using google, but can't find it on the redbook site. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Looking for Redbook: Converting to Dfsmsrmm from Zara and Automedia
I am looking for a copy of the fedbook: Converting to Dfsmsrmm from Zara and Automedia I don't have an IBM book number. I found this book using google, but can't find it on the redbook site. -- Tony Thigpen -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
SYS3 datasets
We have a staff z/OS systems programmer who claims that: "Almost all shops use the SYS3. HLQ to indicate third party software." So new software installs *have* to follow that "rule". (Past installs did not follow such a rule.) I am thinking that this "rule" is really just *his* rule. Opinions? How many other sites follow such a rule? -- Tony Thigpen -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
VTAM SWNET LU status question
I have a SWNET PU which attaches to an AS400. The AS400 acts as a print controller with about 200 printer sessions. in this SWNET PU. We are adding a new LU, but it will not connect. My LU definition is identical to the previously added printer. Existing, working printer: ICU1P634 LU LOCADDR=181,ISTATUS=ACTIVE, DLOGMOD=RS3262 New, not-working printer: ICU1P635 LU LOCADDR=214,ISTATUS=ACTIVE, DLOGMOD=RS3262 Output of a STATUS command for the non-working printer: 06.14.18 HUP1 d net,id=ICU1P635 06.14.18 HUP1 STC06991 IST097I DISPLAY ACCEPTED 06.14.18 HUP1 STC06991 IST075I NAME = APPN.ICU1P635, TYPE = LOGICAL UNIT IST486I STATUS= ACTIVD, DESIRED STATE= ACTIV IST1447I REGISTRATION TYPE = NETSRVR IST977I MDLTAB=***NA*** ASLTAB=***NA*** IST861I MODETAB=MODEHUS3 USSTAB=ISTINCNO LOGTAB=***NA*** IST934I DLOGMOD=RS3262 USS LANGTAB=***NA*** IST597I CAPABILITY-PLU INHIBITED,SLU ENABLED ,SESSION LIMIT 0001 IST136I SWITCHED SNA MAJOR NODE = SWPUF43 IST081I LINE NAME = LE213000, LINE GROUP = GRPPUF43, MAJNOD = XCAPUF43 IST135I PHYSICAL UNIT = PUF43 IST082I DEVTYPE = LU IST654I I/O TRACE = OFF, BUFFER TRACE = OFF IST1500I STATE TRACE = OFF IST171I ACTIVE SESSIONS = 00, SESSION REQUESTS = 00 IST314I END There is a new programmer on the AS/400. The person that has done this in the past is gone. I don't know if they have a bad definition or they have not started something right on their end. When I display the SWNET node, the status shows: ICU1P635 ACTIVD What does ACTIVD indicate? Any thoughts for debugging this? -- Tony Thigpen -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: grabbing JES output via FTP
Passive does make a difference. Once I use passive to force the server to initiate the connections, I am getting different errors. Command: passive Data connections will be initiated by the server Command: get JOB01106.2 >>>EPRT |1|10.10.50.141|1176| 500 unknown command EPRT >>>PORT 10,10,50,141,4,152 200 Port request OK. >>>RETR JOB01106.2 501 Invalid data set name "JOB01106.2". Use MVS Dsname conventions. Command: get JOB01106.x >>>PORT 10,10,50,141,4,153 200 Port request OK. >>>RETR JOB01106.x 550 Data set PRODAT2.JOB01106.X not found Command: get 'JOB01106.1' DMSSTT062E Invalid character ' in fileid 'JOB0110 1' DTCFTC0031E Invalid argument string Invalid local filename; use 'name.type.mode' or 'name.type' Command: get 'JOB01106.x' DMSSTT062E Invalid character ' in fileid 'JOB0110 X' DTCFTC0031E Invalid argument string Invalid local filename; use 'name.type.mode' or 'name.type' Command: get 'JOB01106.x' job01106..a >>>PORT 10,10,50,141,4,154 200 Port request OK. >>>RETR 'JOB01106.x' 550 Data set JOB01106.X not found Command: Tony Thigpen Paul Gilmartin wrote on 08/19/2017 10:33 PM: On Sat, 19 Aug 2017 21:34:57 -0400, Tony Thigpen <t...@vse2pdf.com> wrote: I am attempting to use FTP under VM to grab some job output from JES2. I am getting a strange error that I don't know where to start trying to resolve it. I also get the same messages when I try to ftp from a local pc. Command: site filetype=jes SITE filetype=jes 200 SITE command was accepted Command: get JOB01106.2 EPRT |1|10.10.50.141|1170| 500 unknown command EPRT Is this an IP address and port number for setting up the separate data port? Does PASSIVE mode affect this? PORT 10,10,50,141,4,146 200 Port request OK. RETR JOB01106.2 451 Nlst failed due to internal error -- gil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: grabbing JES output via FTP
Output fron SITE JESSOWNER=* command: >>>SITE JESOWNER=* 200-JESINTERFACELEVEL=1. The value of JESOWNER cannot be modified. 200 SITE command was accepted I am trying to get the output from a job I submitted via FTP, so the owner the same as the userid I am using for FTP. Tony Thigpen JIm Thomas wrote on 08/20/2017 05:12 AM: Depending on JESINTERFACELEVEL .. try issuing a 'SITE JESOWNER=*' <- (or submitter's userid) .. Jim From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> on behalf of Paul Gilmartin <000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> Sent: Saturday, August 19, 2017 9:36:38 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: grabbing JES output via FTP On Sat, 19 Aug 2017 21:34:57 -0400, Tony Thigpen wrote: I am attempting to use FTP under VM to grab some job output from JES2. I am getting a strange error that I don't know where to start trying to resolve it. I also get the same messages when I try to ftp from a local pc. ... EPRT |1|10.10.50.141|1170| 500 unknown command EPRT thoughts? RFC 2428? -- gil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
grabbing JES output via FTP
I am attempting to use FTP under VM to grab some job output from JES2. I am getting a strange error that I don't know where to start trying to resolve it. I also get the same messages when I try to ftp from a local pc. Command: site filetype=jes >>>SITE filetype=jes 200 SITE command was accepted Command: get JOB01106.2 >>>EPRT |1|10.10.50.141|1170| 500 unknown command EPRT >>>PORT 10,10,50,141,4,146 200 Port request OK. >>>RETR JOB01106.2 451 Nlst failed due to internal error Command: thoughts? -- Tony Thigpen -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
GDPR for US companies (Was: Scrubbing sensitive data in dumps)
Charles, Even if the regulation says: "Non-Eu businesses processing the data of EU citizens will also have to appoint a representative in the EU." What legal recourse does the EU have to go after a US company that does not "appoint a representative in the EU"? I think the trick here is that should a company "appoint a representative in the EU" thinking that it's something simple to appease the EU, then they have a business presence in the UA. Once they have "a representative in the EU", then the EU has a legal entity to go after for non-compliance. The company I work for has determined that under no circumstance will we "appoint a representative in the EU". And, if the EU attempts legal action, our defense is that EU do not apply to a US business that only does work in the US. Just because a EU citizen chooses to use our services while in the US, that does not constitute a EU business presence. (No matter what the GDPR is trying to claim.) Take a simple example. A EU person stays at a Florida based Bed & Breakfast. And, the guest supplies his address and phone number. The GDPR 'claims' that the GDPR now applies. But, such a claim violates the the sovereignty of the USA. And, since the Bed & Breakfast does not have a presence in the EU, that sovereignty protects it. In other words, the GDPR can claim to reach into other countries, but legally, it can not. It's just trying to scare people into compliance. Tony Thigpen Charles Mills wrote on 08/12/2017 10:05 AM: My understanding is that the XBridge product was successful at this technically. CA has a new product in this area that is successful technically. (By "technically" I mean that the technology is successful in recognizing credit card numbers, SSNs, and so forth. There is more pattern to a credit card number than just "16 numeric digits.") These products address files and datasets, but the same pattern recognition would apply to dumps. The problem as I see it -- after taking several sessions at SHARE on data privacy -- is that the definition of "personal information" is endlessly elastic. Read "What constitutes personal data?" on http://www.eugdpr.org/gdpr-faqs.html. And by the way, if you are in the US and think that the GDPR is a Europe-only thing, read "Who does the GDPR affect?" and "What are the penalties for non-compliance?" on the same page. Also note the countdown clock on their home page! Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin Sent: Friday, August 11, 2017 11:23 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Scrubbing sensitive data in dumps On Fri, 11 Aug 2017 17:09:10 -0400, Jim Mulder wrote: We did have a meeting in z/OS development quite a few years ago to discuss someone's wish for this type of function for z/OS dumps. We concluded that in general, identifying the sensitive data to be modified would be so problematic that it was not worth pursuing. This is reminiscent of a question posed (here?) (years?) ago concerning detecting credit card numbers in data sets, with the objective of obfuscating them. OK. Any 16 numeric digits, or packed, or 64-bit binary in range, or ... Validate check digit? Same answer. Or SSNs. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: z13s IOCP with FTP issue
We don't let *anybody* into the network between the HMC and the SE. Too many SEs have default passwords on some of the 'special' IDs that can not be easily changed. We bought a small two-nic nas box and placed it on both the SE network and the company network. IOCPs and ICCs go to it as an interim location. I.E., copy the IOCP to the nas. Then, access the nas via the company network. You could just add another nic card to your FTP server, but make sure that the server has all routing turned off. Also, we set the default route on the SE to 0.0.0.0. An additional protection against anybody getting into that network segment. Tony Thigpen Eric Chevalier wrote on 08/08/2017 04:42 PM: On 8/3/17 10:13 AM, Tony Thigpen wrote: 1) The ip address has to be available from SE laptop in the cpu. If you have the connections between the HMC and the SE on a isolated network, then the ftp box has to also be on that same isolated network. We have our HMC on an internal company network so it can be accessed from anywhere, even remotely via VPN. Is there any good technical reason why the SE can't also be on that network for better access to FTP servers in our organization? I realize that having the SE on a separate private network might be better security, but that caused some grief recently. We needed to import an IOCDS into our z13, but that file was in our headquarters office. Because port forwarding isn't enabled on the HMC, so we couldn't get access to the FTP server hosting the IOCDS. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Info and Orlando
Contact me off-list. We have some stuff. It depends what you need. Tony Thigpen W Mainframe wrote on 08/08/2017 05:54 PM: Guys,I am on vacation in Orlando. Does anyone know some place to buy IBM parts of ISeries and PSeries? Thank youDan Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: z13s IOCP with FTP issue
I use FTP all the time. Some tricks: 1) The ip address has to be available from SE laptop in the cpu. If you have the connections between the HMC and the SE on a isolated network, then the ftp box has to also be on that same isolated network. 2) The 'case' for all items must be correct. Userid, password, and file name. 3) The file name must include the full path. Since the patch can change depending on what the ftp server considers the user's 'home' path, you need to understand how the user is defined on the FTP server. We use a cheap mini-nas box for storing IOCPs and ICC convfigs. I have not tried using z/OS as the FTP server as we don't have it on the private HMC-SE network. But, I would expect you would have to be concerned with normal z/OS FTP stuff, like how the FTP server handles adding or not adding the userid to the front of the file name. Tony Thigpen Jesse 1 Robinson wrote on 08/03/2017 10:43 AM: I was never successful in the past with FTP. Relied instead on a thumb drive, which worked great but required physical access to the new box. For our z13s, a colleague was able to get FTP to work. I'm fuzzy on how he did it, but I think he piggybacked on some outbound but closely connected hardware that not everyone has. . . J.O.Skip Robinson Southern California Edison Company Electric Dragon Team Paddler SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager 323-715-0595 Mobile 626-543-6132 Office ⇐=== NEW robin...@sce.com -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Carmen Vitullo Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2017 6:36 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: (External):Re: z13s IOCP with FTP issue Ping only proves the stack is up I think, not that the FTP server is up? I've done this about a year ago when we upgraded to z13s, we loaded or had the SE load the initial IOCP from a thumb drive, maybe you can try that, the only successful ftp I've done was reloading (importing) the ICC configuration Carmen - Original Message - From: "Rob Schramm" <rob.schr...@gmail.com> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Sent: Thursday, August 3, 2017 8:30:28 AM Subject: z13s IOCP with FTP issue Listers, I am having an issue attempting to use FTP to import the IOCP for a new z13s machine. I can ping the z/OS box that the FTP server is running from the HMC and the SE. But when I click " ", I get "File not found on remote machine. Recheck the file name, and try again. My only real complaint, is that there is no log of errors to see what is happening. My other question is has anyone actually retrieved the IOCP deck from a z/OS machine? Thanks, Rob Schramm -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: IOCDF issue
At least tell us what the problem turned out to be. Tony Thigpen Dave Jones wrote on 07/24/2017 09:02 AM: Thanks for all the help with this, problem resolved. Have a good one, too. DJ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: z/OS under z/VM (Was: IBM Unveils New IBM Z with Pervasive Encryption)
Tim, I am not sure I have a good understanding of this. Now, to your post. You actually hit a problem we have. We have a z/10 that is running 5 z/OS LPARs and memory allocation is not the best. You indicate that running z/OS under VM might be the answer. But, a few years ago, some testing made us discount z/VM for such. Maybe our testing was faulty. We had a customer running OS/390 (yes, that old) on a z/800. We have since moved them to a z/10 which has worked well for over a year. During the initial testing of OS/390 on the z/10, we thought we would need to run it under z/VM. What we found was that simple backup processing (full volume dumps to tape) took almost twice as long under z/VM than in a native LPAR. A couple of posts on the z/VM list seem to tell us that using guests (either z/OS or z/VSE) with less than 2 real CPUs would affect I-O performance. Maybe we misunderstood something. What are your thoughts on it? Tony Thigpen Timothy Sipples wrote on 07/17/2017 04:22 AM: OK, I'll start offering some personal thoughts on today's major announcements, and in no particular order. I'll start in what might be an unexpected place: sub-capacity z/VM licensing. That announcement letter is available here: https://www.ibm.com/common/ssi/rep_ca/9/872/ENUSAP17-0259/ENUSAP17-0259.PDF I'm quite happy with this announcement, fundamentally because it provides you all with some interesting, useful flexibility in what you might call the "hybrid cloud journey." IBM is now allowing sub-capacity licensing of z/VM and of most IBM z/VM-related products and features. That's for all operating systems that z/VM supports. What this means in practice is that you can now configure your machine(s) with "anchor tenant" LPARs -- LPARs running Linux, z/OS, and/or other operating systems -- alongside z/VM LPARs. For example, let's suppose you have z/VM and use it to run Linux guests on your machine. But, sadly, you don't have z/VM for z/OS yet. Well, now you can license one additional engine (CP) of z/VM and run z/OS within z/VM on that engine -- even within a z/VM LPAR that spans CPs, zIIPs, and IFLs if you wish. So you can spin up lots and lots of z/OS guests for development, testing, system programmer fun, production, etc., etc. And you can do all that for not very much money at all. In fact, it'll probably save you money since z/VM can overcommit memory in many real world scenarios and since you can shrink (or cap) the number of LPARs to some extent. With z/VM you don't have to "pin" system memory as you do with LPARs. So you can do "some of all of the above": buy lots more memory (it's a lot more affordable), allocate more memory to your "anchor tenant" LPARs, and overcommit memory to some degree using z/VM. For example, you might have a couple of big, beefy, analytics and database workloads that make sense to run in LPARs. (Maybe they need a huge amount of memory, another area where the new IBM z14 excels.) Then, for smaller and more numerous Linux guests -- such as your developer cloud -- you have one or a couple IFLs running z/VM. That's fine, you can do that. You have sub-capacity licensing flexibility. You don't have to license every IFL and/or every CP on your machine(s). Whatever makes technical sense you should be able to do in a more financially attractive way. To net it out, if you haven't adopted z/VM yet -- or if your adoption is only for one operating system among the two or more than you run -- take a serious look at licensing at least one z/VM engine (or one more engine). It's a great deal. More reactions to come Timothy Sipples IT Architect Executive, Industry Solutions, IBM z Systems, AP/GCG/MEA E-Mail: sipp...@sg.ibm.com -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: z/VM subcapacity pricing (Was: IBM Unveils New IBM Z with Pervasive Encryption)
Tim, I am not sure I have a good understanding of this. Some background: In our case, we have 7 physical z10 or higher machines. All the current processors have 1 CPU, but we are looking at replacing 2 of the machines with multi-processors. Most of the machines are running multiple z/OS LPARs. A couple of machines are running z/VSE (some LPAR and some under z/VM). Currently, we have 2 z/VM 6.x licenses and 1 z/VM 5.4 license. (The 5.4 license is used for a small special-purpose function that did not justify purchasing an additional 6.x license.) I would love to have z/VM controlling more machines. How can z/VM sub-capacity pricing help us? Tony Thigpen Timothy Sipples wrote on 07/17/2017 04:22 AM: OK, I'll start offering some personal thoughts on today's major announcements, and in no particular order. I'll start in what might be an unexpected place: sub-capacity z/VM licensing. That announcement letter is available here: https://www.ibm.com/common/ssi/rep_ca/9/872/ENUSAP17-0259/ENUSAP17-0259.PDF I'm quite happy with this announcement, fundamentally because it provides you all with some interesting, useful flexibility in what you might call the "hybrid cloud journey." IBM is now allowing sub-capacity licensing of z/VM and of most IBM z/VM-related products and features. That's for all operating systems that z/VM supports. What this means in practice is that you can now configure your machine(s) with "anchor tenant" LPARs -- LPARs running Linux, z/OS, and/or other operating systems -- alongside z/VM LPARs. For example, let's suppose you have z/VM and use it to run Linux guests on your machine. But, sadly, you don't have z/VM for z/OS yet. Well, now you can license one additional engine (CP) of z/VM and run z/OS within z/VM on that engine -- even within a z/VM LPAR that spans CPs, zIIPs, and IFLs if you wish. So you can spin up lots and lots of z/OS guests for development, testing, system programmer fun, production, etc., etc. And you can do all that for not very much money at all. In fact, it'll probably save you money since z/VM can overcommit memory in many real world scenarios and since you can shrink (or cap) the number of LPARs to some extent. With z/VM you don't have to "pin" system memory as you do with LPARs. So you can do "some of all of the above": buy lots more memory (it's a lot more affordable), allocate more memory to your "anchor tenant" LPARs, and overcommit memory to some degree using z/VM. For example, you might have a couple of big, beefy, analytics and database workloads that make sense to run in LPARs. (Maybe they need a huge amount of memory, another area where the new IBM z14 excels.) Then, for smaller and more numerous Linux guests -- such as your developer cloud -- you have one or a couple IFLs running z/VM. That's fine, you can do that. You have sub-capacity licensing flexibility. You don't have to license every IFL and/or every CP on your machine(s). Whatever makes technical sense you should be able to do in a more financially attractive way. To net it out, if you haven't adopted z/VM yet -- or if your adoption is only for one operating system among the two or more than you run -- take a serious look at licensing at least one z/VM engine (or one more engine). It's a great deal. More reactions to come Timothy Sipples IT Architect Executive, Industry Solutions, IBM z Systems, AP/GCG/MEA E-Mail: sipp...@sg.ibm.com -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: IBM customer anchor
Peter, Stupid question. If my company has a 3 character prefix reserved with the VSE group, does that cross into z/OS? Or, do we need to reserve one though the z/OS side also. (We are considering porting one of our products to z/OS.) Tony Thigpen Peter Relson wrote on 06/30/2017 07:37 AM: Are you saying we are better off, using our IBM assigned message prefix ..which is MDI ...as part of our Token we use ? Yes, definitely. When name collisions would be a problem, the best approach is to begin with "your" prefix. In general, names beginning with A-I and SYS are reserved for use by IBM. Peter Relson z/OS Core Technology Design -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Customer is Using CPACF (Crypto) purchased Crypto Express
The "Encryption Facility for z/VSE" product is used to transport data between VSE and z/OS or other platform that would accept data encrypted by ""Encryption Facility for z/OS". It does *not* support "data at rest". It does allow you to copy and encrypt a file, but the whole file has to be decrypted and restored before it can be used by the system. That is not "data at rest" There is only one "data at rest" product for VSE. Dino/Protect. I developed Dino/Protect back in 2007. http://www.dinoprotect.com But, here is the real crux of the matter. While I sold about a dozen copies of the back-up encryption piece, nobody in the VSE community though "data at rest" was needed. All they want is encrypted backups. And, since then, encrypted tape drives have been developed by IBM so everybody is going that route. So, it's available, but nobody came to the party. For those that are wondering about the key, the root for the key is a random string somewhere in the middle of the software. The root is manipulated, then ORed, then encrypted, then manipulated again prior to actually being used as the key to call CPACF. (The manipulation and encryption is also done by the CPACF.) And, while it's just 128 AES, I could easily support any key length supported by CPACF. The software even supports encrypting just specific fields, of any length, within the record. It also has program controls so that an IDCAMS EXPORT does not decrypt the data during backups. But, again, nobody came to the party. :-( Tony Thigpen Joerg Schmidbauer wrote on 06/19/2017 09:22 AM: Todd pointed me to this topic, because it's a z/VSE related question, not z/OS. From my point of view Tony and Todd explained everything correctly. Just one additional info: There is an optional feature "Encryption Facility for z/VSE" that allows encrypting data at rest (Librarian members, VSAM files, backup tapes, real tapes and vtapes). It's functionality and usage is described in the z/VSE Administration Guide: https://www.ibm.com/systems/z/os/zvse/documentation/#vse It uses CPACF and crypto cards transparently. CPACF is used for encrypting the data. A crypto card is needed only when using public-key encryption (refer to the book) with an RSA key greater than 1024 bits. The other option is "password-based" encryption, where the symmetric key gets derived from a password/passphrase. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: ES/9000 microcode
Yep. Mainframe Services. If you got the stickers, you got the number. Boy, do we understand the 'old CRT' problem. Most of the old PCs will not sync with newer LCD based monitors. (We keep those in stock too.) Tony Thigpen William Donzelli wrote on 06/14/2017 11:13 AM: Is that Mainframe Services? They have stickers all over this machine. So far, the only problem is that I do not have an old working CRT for use with the console PC, so I really can not even start! That should be resolved this weekend, and I can start screwing around with it. -- Will On Wed, Jun 14, 2017 at 10:19 AM, Tony Thigpen <t...@vse2pdf.com> wrote: For those interested, we still have some parts for and some complete Integrated Servers and MP3000s in our warehouse. One of our divisions is a 3th party maintenance provider and we would purchase compete used units for parts for many years. Now, we no longer have any customers with the stuff, so we are slowly selling it as people need it. Recently, we shipped 2 refurbished MP3000s to South America. The replaced a MP2000 that was still in service a few months ago. (One was to be their DR and/or parts box.) Will, I have a guy that can service your equipment should you need it. He is based out of Chattanooga so his preference would be to talk to you over the phone, determine the problem and ship you parts. Tony Thigpen William Donzelli wrote on 06/14/2017 09:49 AM: So the ES/9000 is mostly in its new home. I took a roadtrip to inspect and prep the machine for shipment, and ended up taking the processor and DASD cabinets home. The console and tape are quite safe - now I need to get that stuff backed up and verified. Anyway, I did not get much in the way of documentation. Very little, actually. There is not a whole lot of ES/9000 documentation online anymore, so I am going to turn to you folks. Does anyone have a stash of documentation for the small ES/9000s? Installation, maintenance, whatever. My system is apparently a very early example that has been upgraded and eventually ended up as a 9221-191. I could also use docs for the 9394 DASD, 3490-A04 tape, and 6262 printer. If you do not need the docs anymore, and they are just sitting on the shelf or in a box taking up space, I could certainly use them. Thank you, as always. Also, where were the small air cooled ES/9000s built and/or designed? If anyone cares, I shot a video when I first inspected the pile: https://youtu.be/ICmTwymgz4E -- Will -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: ES/9000 microcode
For those interested, we still have some parts for and some complete Integrated Servers and MP3000s in our warehouse. One of our divisions is a 3th party maintenance provider and we would purchase compete used units for parts for many years. Now, we no longer have any customers with the stuff, so we are slowly selling it as people need it. Recently, we shipped 2 refurbished MP3000s to South America. The replaced a MP2000 that was still in service a few months ago. (One was to be their DR and/or parts box.) Will, I have a guy that can service your equipment should you need it. He is based out of Chattanooga so his preference would be to talk to you over the phone, determine the problem and ship you parts. Tony Thigpen William Donzelli wrote on 06/14/2017 09:49 AM: So the ES/9000 is mostly in its new home. I took a roadtrip to inspect and prep the machine for shipment, and ended up taking the processor and DASD cabinets home. The console and tape are quite safe - now I need to get that stuff backed up and verified. Anyway, I did not get much in the way of documentation. Very little, actually. There is not a whole lot of ES/9000 documentation online anymore, so I am going to turn to you folks. Does anyone have a stash of documentation for the small ES/9000s? Installation, maintenance, whatever. My system is apparently a very early example that has been upgraded and eventually ended up as a 9221-191. I could also use docs for the 9394 DASD, 3490-A04 tape, and 6262 printer. If you do not need the docs anymore, and they are just sitting on the shelf or in a box taking up space, I could certainly use them. Thank you, as always. Also, where were the small air cooled ES/9000s built and/or designed? If anyone cares, I shot a video when I first inspected the pile: https://youtu.be/ICmTwymgz4E -- Will -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: IBM customer anchor
Recently came across this too. In CBT841 files: "CONTACT PETER RELSON, rel...@us.ibm.com FOR YOUR OWN OFFSET IN THE CUSTOMER ANCHOR TABLE. ONCE YOU HAVE RECEIVED YOUR ASSIGNED VALUE MODIFY.." Also, in the same CBT: "A possible address off the Customer Anchor Table, X'CC' off the ECVT, could be X'228' (assigned to a particular customer by IBM, but this is an example address). This is just an example. For your site, you have to ask IBM to assign this address for your site, and they are obligated to do so, for a CUSTOMER. Besides the fullwords that are assigned for VENDORS, there are also four fullwords that are assignable to customers, if they need a permanent address in the system to anchor some function. At the time of this writing, Peter Relson of IBM is in charge of assigning these addresses to either vendors or customers. You are obligated to make sure that no program or product at your site is already using this address. " Tony Thigpen scott Ford wrote on 06/13/2017 08:35 AM: All: I have a question about something called 'customer anchor table entry' . My colleague said IBM can provide this entry to a ISV like use so we can place an address there for routines. I think it's like a vector address . Has anyone heard of this ? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Customer is Using CPACF (Crypto) purchased Crypto Express
We are talking about encrypting "Data at Rest". There is *no* key exchange involved. The only purpose for encrypting keys is so you can send them to someone else. Tony Thigpen Mark Jacobs - Listserv wrote on 06/12/2017 08:01 AM: Encryption/decryption without a CryptoExpress only supports clear keys, not protected or secured encryption keys. Might be enough for the OP, but wouldn't fly in my environment. Tony Thigpen <mailto:t...@vse2pdf.com> June 12, 2017 at 7:22 AM For encrypting "data at rest", the CPACF is really all he needs. The Crypto Express is intended to speed up key negotiations between sites, something not needed for his intended plans. Tony Thigpen -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN Please be alert for any emails that may ask you for login information or directs you to login via a link. If you believe this message is a phish or aren't sure whether this message is trustworthy, please send the original message as an attachment to 'phish...@timeinc.com'. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Customer is Using CPACF (Crypto) purchased Crypto Express
For encrypting "data at rest", the CPACF is really all he needs. The Crypto Express is intended to speed up key negotiations between sites, something not needed for his intended plans. Tony Thigpen Arye Shemer wrote on 06/12/2017 02:00 AM: Hello, Customer is currently using CPACF to encrypt his data before writing to disks. Customer intent to purchased Crypto Express and want to use it to continue to encrypt the data before writing to the disks, Are there any compatibility issues ? Are there any know documents which deals/explain with issues involved ? Thanks, Arye Shemer. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: System REXX
John,
How did your OPS/MVS replacement project go? I am looking at possibly
the same thing.
Tony Thigpen
John McKown wrote on 10/25/2016 07:58 AM:
On Mon, Oct 24, 2016 at 7:37 PM, Steve Horein <steve.hor...@gmail.com>
wrote:
Thank you for the explanation and reasoning sir!
I supported OPS/MVS in a previous life (loved it), and I am now supporting
NetView automation (love it), so I am lucky to be able to currently work
with "COMMON" variables, which are accessible to any NetView task, very
similar to OPS' Global variables. There is also the concept of NetView
"task" level variables, known only to the specific task. It's good to know
the overhead associated with filesystems is not as bad as "traditional"
datasets, especially the buffering aspects. On a side note, I always
thought you would be a fun guy to work with, based on the things you do!
Thank you for the kind words about possibly being "fun to work with". But
this place definitely isn't fun. We're dying ("cloud" sourcing) & I'm
looking. Some of the things that I do are simply because we are, and have
always been, cheap (vs. frugal). So I'm always looking for "zero dollar"
solutions to make my work easier. Part of making my work easier is making
other people's work easier (because then they don't bug me ). I am
"creatively lazy", I guess.
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Re: AW: Rexx SORT (was: ... Job Scheduler ... )
Could you point me to the REXX list? Also, we have had a SORTSTEM function in VSE REXX for a LONG time. Does z/OS not have SORTSTEM? Tony Thigpen Nims,Alva John (Al) wrote on 06/07/2017 01:27 PM: This is getting to be like a discussion that was had on the REXX list recently, as in it would be nice if there was an available PIPE type of command available, oh wait there is: The product where IBM has made a PIPE command available: http://www-01.ibm.com/common/ssi/cgi-bin/ssialias?infotype=dd=sm=897/ENUS5655-D45 Sorting is very simple there: PIPE stem xy. | sort 1 5 | stem yx. Or PIPE < indsn | sort 1 5 | > outdsn These are simple examples and not everything that can be done, but when I was using it (my previous job) it was reasonably quick in execution. Now I have to do the allocation of SORTIN, SORTOUT and SYSIN (control cards) then invoke SORT, very cumbersome compared to the simple PIPE command version. Al Nims UFIT University of Florida (352) 273-1298 @Home -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Elardus Engelbrecht Sent: Wednesday, June 07, 2017 1:14 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: AW: Rexx SORT (was: ... Job Scheduler ... ) Paul Gilmartin wrote: Bernd.Oppolzer wrote: http://bernd-oppolzer.de/blog_20150115_151000.htm this Contains a REXX Procedure to sort a stem variable. See quicksort_nonrec o Of course. But why should it be necessary to reinvent the wheel when DFSORT has vast capabilities not practical to duplicate in Rexx? Could you please be kind to tell us what function(s) you have in mind? On one side, REXX has this nice PARSE function. hard to duplicate that in DFSORT, but do-able. On other side, DFSORT handles SMF records and their weird timestamps better. (Yes, I know REXX can handle VBS records these days.) I could envision adapting [the ANSI Rexx form] in TSO Rexx something like: address LINKMVS 'ICEMAN' with , DD:SORTIN stem F1. , DD:SORTOUT stem F2. You can do the same with REXX statements like this: "ALLOC F(SORTIN) blah " "EXECIO * DISKR SORTIN (STEM F1. FINIS" "FREE F(SORTIN)" ... and then call DFSORT and sort out your magic In fact, I have some RYO REXX progs which call DFSORT to sort something out... o And while I chose SORT as an example, I intended to consider a more general solution. Imagine a facility that could invoke not only SORT, but: - IEBUPDTE witn SYSIN, SYSUT1, and SYSUT2 assigned to stems. - ISRSUPC with OLD, NEW, and DELTA assigned to stems. - Etc. Much like ANSI Rexx. You can invoke anything with REXX including SDSF, IEBGENER, IEBCOPY, etc. as long you pass/receive parameters and DD correctly. In fact, zSecure ISPF panels are mostly driven by REXX. But, I agree with you, something standardised so you can do what you desire would really be useful. Something like "ALLOC F(SYSIN) ..." Also FREE(FSYSIN) which -optionally- drops those Stems. (I said optionally, because, you may need to free up SYSIN immediately, but continue to handle those stems.) Just some little idle ideas, ya ;-) Groete / Greetings Elardus Engelbrecht -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Eliminating CA-Optimizer
We support an old OS/390 (yep!) system that is slowly being eliminated. To cut costs, the customer is asking about eliminating CA-Optimizer. 1) Would all the Cobol programs require re-compiling? 2) Or, will the run-time library continue to work once the license is cancelled? -- Tony Thigpen -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Anybody using Zara with an IBM 7740?
Anybody using Zara with an IBM 7740? What level of Zara? -- Tony Thigpen -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: DFHEXLI vs DFHECI
I can verify that it really is an online program. It is in CICS and the programmer just recompiled it with a small change to verify it was really the right compile. The change showed up and I looked at the linkmap (which I included with the last email). Tony Thigpen esst...@juno.com wrote on 04/23/2017 12:50 PM: Hello Tony I'm a bit confused ... Are You Sure this is a program that runs as a CICS Transaction ? Can You issue CEMT I PROG(x), or CEMT I TRANS(*) PROG() or better yet issue a CECI LOAD PRPGRAM() . I suspect its a Batch Submitted program using EXCI to LINK To or Start a transaction in a CICS Region. -- Original Message -- From: Tony Thigpen <t...@vse2pdf.com> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: DFHEXLI vs DFHECI Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2017 15:53:51 -0400 I had a little time and looked at this closer. I am trying to determine what they are really doing and why. Here is the JCL that they use to compile: ... translate step ... cobol step with output going to //SYSLIN DD DSN=&,DISP=(MOD,PASS), //UNIT=,SPACE=(80,(250,100)) ... then //COPYLINK EXEC PGM=IEBGENER,COND=(7,LT,COB) //SYSUT1 DD DSN=(DFHEXLI),DISP=SHR //SYSUT2 DD DSN=&,DISP=(NEW,PASS), //DCB=(LRECL=80,BLKSIZE=400,RECFM=FB), //UNIT=,SPACE=(400,(20,20)) //SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT= //SYSINDD DUMMY //* //LKED EXEC PGM=IEWL,REGION=, //PARM='',COND=(5,LT,COB) //SYSLIB DD DSN=,DISP=SHR // DD DSN=,DISP=SHR // DD DSN=,DISP=SHR // DD DSN=,DISP=SHR // DD DSN=,DISP=SHR // DD DSN=,DISP=SHR //SYSLMOD DD DSN=.,DISP=SHR //SYSUT1 DD UNIT=,DCB=BLKSIZE=1024, //SPACE=(1024,(200,20)) //SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT= //SYSLIN DD DSN=&,DISP=(OLD,DELETE) // DD DSN=&,DISP=(OLD,DELETE) // DD DDNAME=SYSIN They run the compile using: /HBCC08 EXEC CICSCCLH,. //TRN.SYSIN DD * ./ INCLUDE HBCC08,LIB=PROD /* //LKED.SYSIN DD * NAME HBCC08(R) /* // It seems that ..SDFHMAC(DFHEXLI) only contains one line: INCLUDE SYSLIB(DFHXCSTB) DFHXCSTB is in ..SDFHEXCI It appears that during the link stage, DFHEI1 is being pulled in automatically. BATCH EMULATOR JOB(HBCC08 ) STEP(HBCC08 ) PGM= IEWL PROCEDURE(LKED) IEW2278I B352 INVOCATION PARAMETERS - AMODE(31),RMODE(ANY),LIST,XREF IEW2322I 1220 1 INCLUDE SYSLIB(DFHXCSTB) IEW2322I 1220 2 NAME HBCC08(R) C R O S S - R E F E R E N C E T A B L E _ TEXT CLASS = B_TEXT --- R E F E R E N C E -- T A R G E T --- CLASSELEMENT | OFFSET SECT/PART(ABBREV) OFFSET TYPE | SYMBOL(ABBREV) SECTION (ABB 2A0 HBCC08 50 V-CON | IGZCBSO IGZCBSO 30A HBCC08 BA V-CON | CEESTART CEESTART 32A HBCC08 DA V-CON | CEESTART CEESTART 32E HBCC08 DE V-CON | CEEBETBL CEEBETBL 384 HBCC08134 V-CON | DFHEI1 DFHEAI 388 HBCC08138 V-CON | CEELOCT CEELOCT 33BC CEEBETBL4 V-CON | CEEBXITA $UNRESOLVED( So, what are they really doing by including something from the EXCI library instead of the normal INCLUDE? Tony Thigpen esst...@juno.com wrote on 04/22/2017 09:59 AM: Hi Tony I found two references to DFHEXLI and also refer to the external interface guide as you mentioned CICS.SDFHPROC(DFHYXTDL) CICS.SDFHPROC(DFHEXTAL) -- Original Message ------ From: Tony Thigpen <t...@vse2pdf.com> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: DFHEXLI vs DFHECI Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2017 21:09:07 -0400 I am working with a site, and their CICS COBOL compile procs include DFHEXLI instead of DFHECI. I thought DFHEXLI was only for batch programs using the external interface link. But, there is not much information about it when I google it. Can DFHEXLI safely be used for "normal" CICS programs? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: DFHEXLI vs DFHECI
I had a little time and looked at this closer. I am trying to determine what they are really doing and why. Here is the JCL that they use to compile: ... translate step ... cobol step with output going to //SYSLIN DD DSN=&,DISP=(MOD,PASS), //UNIT=,SPACE=(80,(250,100)) ... then //COPYLINK EXEC PGM=IEBGENER,COND=(7,LT,COB) //SYSUT1 DD DSN=(DFHEXLI),DISP=SHR //SYSUT2 DD DSN=&,DISP=(NEW,PASS), //DCB=(LRECL=80,BLKSIZE=400,RECFM=FB), //UNIT=,SPACE=(400,(20,20)) //SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT= //SYSINDD DUMMY //* //LKED EXEC PGM=IEWL,REGION=, //PARM='',COND=(5,LT,COB) //SYSLIB DD DSN=,DISP=SHR // DD DSN=,DISP=SHR // DD DSN=,DISP=SHR // DD DSN=,DISP=SHR // DD DSN=,DISP=SHR // DD DSN=,DISP=SHR //SYSLMOD DD DSN=.,DISP=SHR //SYSUT1 DD UNIT=,DCB=BLKSIZE=1024, //SPACE=(1024,(200,20)) //SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT= //SYSLIN DD DSN=&,DISP=(OLD,DELETE) // DD DSN=&,DISP=(OLD,DELETE) // DD DDNAME=SYSIN They run the compile using: /HBCC08 EXEC CICSCCLH,. //TRN.SYSIN DD * ./ INCLUDE HBCC08,LIB=PROD /* //LKED.SYSIN DD * NAME HBCC08(R) /* // It seems that ..SDFHMAC(DFHEXLI) only contains one line: INCLUDE SYSLIB(DFHXCSTB) DFHXCSTB is in ..SDFHEXCI It appears that during the link stage, DFHEI1 is being pulled in automatically. BATCH EMULATOR JOB(HBCC08 ) STEP(HBCC08 ) PGM= IEWL PROCEDURE(LKED) IEW2278I B352 INVOCATION PARAMETERS - AMODE(31),RMODE(ANY),LIST,XREF IEW2322I 1220 1 INCLUDE SYSLIB(DFHXCSTB) IEW2322I 1220 2 NAME HBCC08(R) C R O S S - R E F E R E N C E T A B L E _ TEXT CLASS = B_TEXT --- R E F E R E N C E -- T A R G E T --- CLASSELEMENT | OFFSET SECT/PART(ABBREV) OFFSET TYPE | SYMBOL(ABBREV) SECTION (ABB 2A0 HBCC08 50 V-CON | IGZCBSO IGZCBSO 30A HBCC08 BA V-CON | CEESTART CEESTART 32A HBCC08 DA V-CON | CEESTART CEESTART 32E HBCC08 DE V-CON | CEEBETBL CEEBETBL 384 HBCC08134 V-CON | DFHEI1 DFHEAI 388 HBCC08138 V-CON | CEELOCT CEELOCT 33BC CEEBETBL4 V-CON | CEEBXITA $UNRESOLVED( So, what are they really doing by including something from the EXCI library instead of the normal INCLUDE? Tony Thigpen esst...@juno.com wrote on 04/22/2017 09:59 AM: Hi Tony I found two references to DFHEXLI and also refer to the external interface guide as you mentioned CICS.SDFHPROC(DFHYXTDL) CICS.SDFHPROC(DFHEXTAL) -- Original Message -- From: Tony Thigpen <t...@vse2pdf.com> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: DFHEXLI vs DFHECI Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2017 21:09:07 -0400 I am working with a site, and their CICS COBOL compile procs include DFHEXLI instead of DFHECI. I thought DFHEXLI was only for batch programs using the external interface link. But, there is not much information about it when I google it. Can DFHEXLI safely be used for "normal" CICS programs? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
DFHEXLI vs DFHECI
I am working with a site, and their CICS COBOL compile procs include DFHEXLI instead of DFHECI. I thought DFHEXLI was only for batch programs using the external interface link. But, there is not much information about it when I google it. Can DFHEXLI safely be used for "normal" CICS programs? -- Tony Thigpen -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Purchasing opportunity...
I had similar problems over the weekend. Really strange issues with sometimes a message that said "the data sent was too large for the server". I tried many saved IBM links and finally had one page display a usable error message that said "Please delete cookies and retry". That did fix it. Tony Thigpen Bill Woodger wrote on 04/17/2017 06:42 PM: On Mon, 17 Apr 2017 17:28:11 -0500, Mike Schwab <mike.a.sch...@gmail.com> wrote: Works just fine for me. Thanks. Tried again, same problem. Closing and restarting Firefox got it back for me. I'm in a different country today, and I clicked OK for a bunch of security updates, I guess there's no way of finding out exactly what caused that for me (or what I did to cause that), and even if I did find no-one would care. "Closed Permanently (Workaround)" is cheaper than root-cause analysis. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Assembler question
Thanks all. I got it working with MACRF=(GL,PL) and using PUTX. Tony Thigpen David W Noon wrote on 04/08/2017 11:20 AM: On Fri, 7 Apr 2017 19:09:09 -0400, Tony Thigpen (t...@vse2pdf.com) wrote about "Assembler question" (in <58e81c15.6060...@vse2pdf.com>): [snip] OPEN (HPPCTL,UPDAT) HPPCTL DCB DSORG=PS,RECFM=F,LRECL=100,DDNAME=HPPCTL, BLKSIZE=(100), MACRF=(GM),EODAD=PPCTLOUT You have specified UPDAT in your OPEN but your MACRF only has GM. If you really are updating the dataset in place, you should have MACRF=(GL,PL), or if you are only reading the dataset then your OPEN macro should specify INPUT rather than UPDAT. For either INPUT or UPDAT, you do not need to specify RECFM, LRECL or BLKSIZE, as these will be taken from the format-1 DSCB. Specifying these unnecessarily can corrupt the format-1, as the access method takes your word for these values, not the existing ones in the format-1, so any differences are put into the format-1 during the CLOSE macro -- at least for UPDAT. HTH -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Assembler question
I am helping on an assembler program that is accessing a sequential file in move mode, yet the move is not happening. R1 points to valid data after the GET, but the record area specified was not filled in. This application is being ported from VSE to z/OS. Code snippets: OPEN (HPPCTL,UPDAT) GET HPPCTL,PPCT HPPCTL DCB DSORG=PS,RECFM=F,LRECL=100,DDNAME=HPPCTL, BLKSIZE=(100), MACRF=(GM),EODAD=PPCTLOUT in program storage: PPCT DS0CL100 CONTROL RECORD PPID DSCL5 RECORD IDENT ... and more Thoughts? (My expertise is in VSE, not z/OS application programming.) -- Tony Thigpen -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Problem Generating CA-7 SASSBSTR Batch LJOB Output
What I use: // //* SENDS LISTING OF ALL JOBS TO VM FOR PROCESSING // //IDCDEL EXEC PGM=IDCAMS //SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=* //SYSINDD * DEL SDP.S.CA7MAST.PRINT SET MAXCC = 0 /* //* //STEP1EXEC CA7BTI //SYSPRINT DD DSN=SDP.S.CA7MAST.PRINT, //DISP=(NEW,CATLG,DELETE), //UNIT=SYSDA,SPACE=(CYL,(4,1),RLSE), //DCB=(RECFM=FBA,LRECL=133,BLKSIZE=27930) //ERRORS DD SYSOUT=* //SYSIN DD * /LOGON MASTER LJOB,LIST=NODD,LRUNDATE=(15001) /LOGOFF //* //FTP1 EXEC PGM=FTP //SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=* //OUTPUT DD SYSOUT=* //INPUTDD DISP=OLD,DSN=SDP.S.VM.FTP.IPADDR // DD * PUT 'SDP.S.VM.FTP.IPADDR' JOBLOG.CA7LJOB; PUT 'SDP.S.CA7MAST.PRINT' CA7MAST.STORE_H DIR QUIT //* Tony Thigpen Robert S. Hansel (RSH) wrote on 03/03/2017 03:16 PM: Greetings all, I am trying to generate listings of job information from CA-7 with the LJOB command using the Batch Terminal Interface (BTI) program SASSBSTR (PROC CA7BTI). The job runs successfully, but the output in SYSPRINT simply shows the LJOB command I executed and not, as I'd hoped, the output from the LJOB command. I've searched the manuals and cannot figure out how to the get the output I desire and was hoping someone could be of assistance. TIA. Regards, Bob Robert S. Hansel *** Celebrating 30 years working with RACF *** Lead RACF Specialist RSH Consulting, Inc. 617-969-8211 www.linkedin.com/in/roberthansel http://twitter.com/RSH_RACF www.rshconsulting.com Upcoming RSH RACF Training - WebEx - RACF Audit & Compliance Roadmap - MAY 15-19, 2017 - RACF Level I Administration - APR 25-28, 2017 - RACF Level II Administration - FEB 27 - MAR 3, 2017 - RACF Level III Admin, Audit, & Compliance - APR 3-7, 2017 - RACF - Securing z/OS UNIX - OCT 23-27, 2017 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Friday fun with REXX and PARSE
Steve has it right. Literals take precedent. So it works like this: Step 1) split as Temp1 '.' Temp2 '.' Temp3 so: Temp1 = word1 word2 Temp2 = word3 word4:word5 Temp3 = word6 word7 hh.mm.ss Step 2) split the "temps" based on the parsing between literals: so: Parse Temp1 with var1 var2 var3 var4 var5 giving: var1 = word1 var2 = word2 var3-var5 = nulls because no more words in Temp1 so: Parse Temp2 with war6 giving var6 = word3 word4:word5 (because only one parse into field) so: Parse Temp3 with var7 giving var7 = word6 word7 hh.mm.ss (because only one parse into field) Tony Thigpen Steve Horein wrote on 02/24/2017 06:05 AM: Looks to me your literal delimiter took precedent over space delimiters. In other words, PARSE looked for "." first, and found "word3 word4:word5" between the specified literals. On Fri, Feb 24, 2017 at 3:32 AM, Peter Hunkeler <p...@gmx.ch> wrote: This is some Friday fun with parsing with REXX. First I was baffled with the result, now I understand. So *no* I will not join the TSO/REXX list ;-) I've got a data set to process with REXX. The records are of format: "word1 word2.word3 word4:word5.word6 word7 hh.mm.ss" What I need is each record split into: var1 = "word1" var2 = "word2.word3" var3 = "word4:word5.word6" var4 = "word7" var5 = "hh" var6 = "mm" var7 = "ss" Easy, I thought and coded: PARSE VAR input var1 var2 var3 var4 var5 "." var6 "." var7 . The result baffled me and was far from anything I understood at first. Here is what the variables look like: var1 ==> "word1" var2 ==> "word2" var3 ==> "" var4 ==> "" var5 ==> "" var6 ==> "word3 word4:word5" var7 ==> "word6" Have fun. -- Peter Hunkeler -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: HSM followup question
I just ran the following: MIGRATE VOLUME(HDGAC0 MIGRATE(365)) ML2 I got the following: ARC0570I COMMAND MIGRATION FOR HDGAC6 VOLUME(S) TERMINATED, RC=25 REASON=0 I don't understand what it is trying to tell me: 25 There is a space management request on an SMS-managed volume with DBA or DBU specified, or a nonzero value of days on MIGRATE (days) or DAYS (days) is specified on a MIGRATE command. Tony Thigpen Richards, Robert B. wrote on 02/05/2017 07:20 AM: But, in my MGMTCLAS ACS routine, where everything is based on the storage group setting, there are no specific IF statement for that storage group so it appears that the default management class of "" (null) is assigned for these files. Don't you mean it is based on the SC setting? Because at this point, according to what you wrote, the SG has not been set because the SG routine sets it by the SC that was assigned in the SC routine. Sequence of invocation: DC to SC to MC to SG Based on this, MC can only set three ways: By DC, by SC or by the MC routine itself. 1) Changing the MC only affects NEWLY CREATED datasets 2) Yes -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Tony Thigpen Sent: Friday, February 03, 2017 6:20 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: HSM followup question For a specific file prefix, my STORCLAS ACS routine sets the storage class to SC. Then in my STORGRP ACS routine, that storage class causes the storage group to be set to SG. But, in my MGMTCLAS ACS routine, where everything is based on the storage group setting, there are no specific IF statement for that storage group so it appears that the default management class of "" (null) is assigned for these files. My assumption is that HSM is just going to ignore the files in this storage class and never migrate them. Yet, for these specific files, I actually want them migrated to tape so I think I need them assigned to a management class. (right/wrong?) Questions: 1) If I change the MGMTCLAS ACS routine so as to assign a real management class, will this affect existing files, or only newly created files? 2) These files are for an old system that is no longer used. Since I just want them migrated out to tape and left there forever, would it be better to just issue a: MIGRATE VOLUME(xx) MIGRATE(365) ML2 command and force the move to tape and not worry about setting up a valid management class for these files? -- Tony Thigpen -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
HSM followup question
For a specific file prefix, my STORCLAS ACS routine sets the storage class to SC. Then in my STORGRP ACS routine, that storage class causes the storage group to be set to SG. But, in my MGMTCLAS ACS routine, where everything is based on the storage group setting, there are no specific IF statement for that storage group so it appears that the default management class of "" (null) is assigned for these files. My assumption is that HSM is just going to ignore the files in this storage class and never migrate them. Yet, for these specific files, I actually want them migrated to tape so I think I need them assigned to a management class. (right/wrong?) Questions: 1) If I change the MGMTCLAS ACS routine so as to assign a real management class, will this affect existing files, or only newly created files? 2) These files are for an old system that is no longer used. Since I just want them migrated out to tape and left there forever, would it be better to just issue a: MIGRATE VOLUME(xx) MIGRATE(365) ML2 command and force the move to tape and not worry about setting up a valid management class for these files? -- Tony Thigpen -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: IMS log files question
I am thinking that my best option would be to run the following, then figure out the storage group settings afterwards. //DELDSN EXEC PGM=ADRDSSU //OUTVOL DD DUMMY //SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=* //SYSINDD * DUMP DATASET( - INCLUDE(- IMSVS.RLDSP.DBCP.**- IMSVS.SLDSP.DBCP.**- IMSVS.RLDSP.DBCT.**- IMSVS.SLDSP.DBCT.**- ) - BY(EXPDT,LT,*) ) - OUTDD(OUTVOL) - DELETE /* Tony Thigpen Tony Thigpen wrote on 01/18/2017 05:26 PM: At this point, I am trying to familiarize myself with the DFHSM and the contents of the manuals. With guidance from the list pointing me to the next step, I am learning a lot. Calling IBM will just get me an answer with no understanding. Tony Thigpen Lizette Koehler wrote on 01/18/2017 04:17 PM: Of course my favorite last answer would be to open a case with DFHSM and have them help you through DFSMS and DFSMShsm. They will probably be faster Lizette -Original Message- From: Lizette Koehler <stars...@mindspring.com> Sent: Jan 18, 2017 2:03 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: IMS log files question The HSM Started task has an ARCCMDxx member that details all the stuff it is to do. You can issue a F dfhsmstcnamehere,Q SETSYS and see what is currently running. You can browse the ARCCMDxx member and see what it is going to do. SETSYS PRIMARYSPMGMTSTART( ) - SECONDARYSPMGMTSTART( ) - AUTOBACKUPSTART( ) - AUTODUMPSTART( ) ADDVOL VOL001 UNIT(3390) MIGRATION(ML1 NOSDSP) THRESHOLD(1) ADDVOL VOL002 UNIT(3390) - PRIMARY(NOAUTOMIGRATION - AUTORECALL - AUTOBACKUP - MIGRATE(999) - BACKUPDEVICECATEGORY(TAPE)) - THRESHOLD(100 100) You can review the Management class in ISMF and see what the policies are for the dataset (you only provided a snippet of the details. Use the DISPLAY function in ISMF for easier read -Original Message- From: Tony Thigpen <t...@vse2pdf.com> Sent: Jan 18, 2017 12:00 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: IMS log files question How do I determine if the volume is part of the HSM backup process? I have looked at the HSM backup logs and these volumes are never mentioned although other volumes are backed up. Tony Thigpen Lizette Koehler wrote on 01/18/2017 10:13 AM: See if DFHSM is running space management process on those volumes/pools. Or you can check on the IMS List and see if someone over there has had a similar issue To join, if you have not done so, use this URL IMShttp://imslistserv.bmc.com/scripts/wa-BMC.exe?A0=ims-l Lizette -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: IMS log files question
At this point, I am trying to familiarize myself with the DFHSM and the contents of the manuals. With guidance from the list pointing me to the next step, I am learning a lot. Calling IBM will just get me an answer with no understanding. Tony Thigpen Lizette Koehler wrote on 01/18/2017 04:17 PM: Of course my favorite last answer would be to open a case with DFHSM and have them help you through DFSMS and DFSMShsm. They will probably be faster Lizette -Original Message- From: Lizette Koehler <stars...@mindspring.com> Sent: Jan 18, 2017 2:03 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: IMS log files question The HSM Started task has an ARCCMDxx member that details all the stuff it is to do. You can issue a F dfhsmstcnamehere,Q SETSYS and see what is currently running. You can browse the ARCCMDxx member and see what it is going to do. SETSYS PRIMARYSPMGMTSTART( ) - SECONDARYSPMGMTSTART( ) - AUTOBACKUPSTART( ) - AUTODUMPSTART( ) ADDVOL VOL001 UNIT(3390) MIGRATION(ML1 NOSDSP) THRESHOLD(1) ADDVOL VOL002 UNIT(3390) - PRIMARY(NOAUTOMIGRATION - AUTORECALL - AUTOBACKUP - MIGRATE(999) - BACKUPDEVICECATEGORY(TAPE)) - THRESHOLD(100 100) You can review the Management class in ISMF and see what the policies are for the dataset (you only provided a snippet of the details. Use the DISPLAY function in ISMF for easier read -Original Message- From: Tony Thigpen <t...@vse2pdf.com> Sent: Jan 18, 2017 12:00 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: IMS log files question How do I determine if the volume is part of the HSM backup process? I have looked at the HSM backup logs and these volumes are never mentioned although other volumes are backed up. Tony Thigpen Lizette Koehler wrote on 01/18/2017 10:13 AM: See if DFHSM is running space management process on those volumes/pools. Or you can check on the IMS List and see if someone over there has had a similar issue To join, if you have not done so, use this URL IMS http://imslistserv.bmc.com/scripts/wa-BMC.exe?A0=ims-l Lizette -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: IMS log files question
I just found where the storage group has set: AUTO MIGRATE = 'INTERVAL' Based on my reading, then the volumes will not be 'cleaned' until they exceed a usage limit. Right now, the 4 volumes are 12, 12, 50 and 24% free. I have not been able to find where I can use 'DISPLAY' in ISMF. When I look at the storage group screen, I see: Storage Group Name : SGIMSLOG To ALTER Storage Group, Specify: Description ==> SYSTEM DUMP DATASETS ==> Auto Migrate . . I (Y, N, I or P) Migrate Sys/Sys Group Name Auto Backup . . N (Y or N) Backup Sys/Sys Group Name Auto Dump . . . N (Y or N) Dump Sys/Sys Group Name Dump Class . . . (1 to 8 characters) Dump Class . . . Dump Class . . Dump Class . . . Dump Class . . Allocation/migration Threshold: High . . 10 (1-99) Low . . 9 (0-99) Guaranteed Backup Frequency . . . . . . NOLIMIT (1 to or NOLIMIT) ALTER SMS Storage Group Status . . . N (Y or N) Tony Thigpen Lizette Koehler wrote on 01/18/2017 04:03 PM: The HSM Started task has an ARCCMDxx member that details all the stuff it is to do. You can issue a F dfhsmstcnamehere,Q SETSYS and see what is currently running. You can browse the ARCCMDxx member and see what it is going to do. SETSYS PRIMARYSPMGMTSTART( ) - SECONDARYSPMGMTSTART( ) - AUTOBACKUPSTART( ) - AUTODUMPSTART( ) ADDVOL VOL001 UNIT(3390) MIGRATION(ML1 NOSDSP) THRESHOLD(1) ADDVOL VOL002 UNIT(3390) - PRIMARY(NOAUTOMIGRATION - AUTORECALL - AUTOBACKUP - MIGRATE(999) - BACKUPDEVICECATEGORY(TAPE)) - THRESHOLD(100 100) You can review the Management class in ISMF and see what the policies are for the dataset (you only provided a snippet of the details. Use the DISPLAY function in ISMF for easier read -Original Message- From: Tony Thigpen <t...@vse2pdf.com> Sent: Jan 18, 2017 12:00 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: IMS log files question How do I determine if the volume is part of the HSM backup process? I have looked at the HSM backup logs and these volumes are never mentioned although other volumes are backed up. Tony Thigpen Lizette Koehler wrote on 01/18/2017 10:13 AM: See if DFHSM is running space management process on those volumes/pools. Or you can check on the IMS List and see if someone over there has had a similar issue To join, if you have not done so, use this URL IMS http://imslistserv.bmc.com/scripts/wa-BMC.exe?A0=ims-l Lizette -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: IMS log files question
How do I determine if the volume is part of the HSM backup process? I have looked at the HSM backup logs and these volumes are never mentioned although other volumes are backed up. Tony Thigpen Lizette Koehler wrote on 01/18/2017 10:13 AM: See if DFHSM is running space management process on those volumes/pools. Or you can check on the IMS List and see if someone over there has had a similar issue To join, if you have not done so, use this URL IMS http://imslistserv.bmc.com/scripts/wa-BMC.exe?A0=ims-l Lizette -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Tony Thigpen Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2017 7:30 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: IMS log files question Which makes since. It is using the "larger of [JCL vs SMS]" & <= RET_LIMIT. So, I am back to my original problem. I need to identify the process that is suppose to be deleting the expired files from the VTOC? Tony Thigpen Burrell, Todd wrote on 01/18/2017 09:09 AM: Looks like your RETPD=45 is overriding the SMS parameters. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Tony Thigpen Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2017 8:52 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: IMS log files question From the job logs where the file is created: //DFSSLOGP DD DSN=IMSVS.SLDSP.%SSID.D%ARDATE.T%ARTIME.V%ARVERS, // DISP=(NEW,CATLG,DELETE),RETPD=45, // UNIT=3390,VOL=SER=SIMS00,SPACE=(CYL,(1,1)) IGD101I SMS ALLOCATED TO DDNAME (DFSSLOGP) DSN (IMSVS.SLDSP.DBCT.D17018.T0040131.VF3) STORCLAS (SCIMSLOG) MGMTCLAS (MCIMSLOG) DATACLAS () VOL SER NOS= HIMSL2 From the management class panel: MGMTCLAS EXPIRE EXPIRERETPARTIAL PRIMARY NAME NON-USAGE DATE/DAYSLIMIT RELEASE DAYS --(2)--- ---(3)--- ---(4) --(5)-- (6) ---(7)-- MCIMSLOG 7 7 NOLIMIT NO 0 SMS is something I am just learning, but, if I am reading the manual right, I would expect the files to be gone after 7 days. But, from the VTOC: Created Expires 2017.018 2017.063 It appears that I am missing something. Because here is the vtoc dates for one of the old files: Created Expires 2015.190 2015.235 Tony Thigpen Peter Hunkeler wrote on 01/18/2017 01:55 AM: I am reviewing the system VTOCs and I see a lot of IMS log files that contain a date/timestamp in their names. I know they are created by the IMS system using the skeleton proc member ARCHJCL. What I am seeing is that the file was created with a retention period of 45 days. //DFSSLOGP DD DSN=IMSVS.SLDSP.%SSID.D%ARDATE.T%ARTIME.V%ARVERS, // DISP=(NEW,CATLG,DELETE),RETPD=45, // UNIT=3390,VOL=SER=SIMS00,SPACE=(CYL,(1,1)) But, I have daily files going back almost 2 years. Is the RETPD honoured at allocation time? Look for message IGD17364I in the IMS joblog. What value is set for "RET LIMIT" in the management class. If it is 0, then EXPDT and RETPD will be ignored, and EXPIRE NON-USAGE and EXPIRE DATE/DAYS determine when space managment considers to delete the data set. Any of those could be NOLIMIT. Or the value is larger than your "almost 2 years". Have you looked a the "Expiration date" in ISPF for any of those data data sets? -- Peter Hunkeler -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: IMS log files question
Which makes since. It is using the "larger of [JCL vs SMS]" & <= RET_LIMIT. So, I am back to my original problem. I need to identify the process that is suppose to be deleting the expired files from the VTOC? Tony Thigpen Burrell, Todd wrote on 01/18/2017 09:09 AM: Looks like your RETPD=45 is overriding the SMS parameters. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Tony Thigpen Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2017 8:52 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: IMS log files question From the job logs where the file is created: //DFSSLOGP DD DSN=IMSVS.SLDSP.%SSID.D%ARDATE.T%ARTIME.V%ARVERS, // DISP=(NEW,CATLG,DELETE),RETPD=45, // UNIT=3390,VOL=SER=SIMS00,SPACE=(CYL,(1,1)) IGD101I SMS ALLOCATED TO DDNAME (DFSSLOGP) DSN (IMSVS.SLDSP.DBCT.D17018.T0040131.VF3) STORCLAS (SCIMSLOG) MGMTCLAS (MCIMSLOG) DATACLAS () VOL SER NOS= HIMSL2 From the management class panel: MGMTCLAS EXPIRE EXPIRERETPARTIAL PRIMARY NAME NON-USAGE DATE/DAYSLIMIT RELEASE DAYS --(2)--- ---(3)--- ---(4) --(5)-- (6) ---(7)-- MCIMSLOG 7 7 NOLIMIT NO 0 SMS is something I am just learning, but, if I am reading the manual right, I would expect the files to be gone after 7 days. But, from the VTOC: Created Expires 2017.018 2017.063 It appears that I am missing something. Because here is the vtoc dates for one of the old files: Created Expires 2015.190 2015.235 Tony Thigpen Peter Hunkeler wrote on 01/18/2017 01:55 AM: I am reviewing the system VTOCs and I see a lot of IMS log files that contain a date/timestamp in their names. I know they are created by the IMS system using the skeleton proc member ARCHJCL. What I am seeing is that the file was created with a retention period of 45 days. //DFSSLOGP DD DSN=IMSVS.SLDSP.%SSID.D%ARDATE.T%ARTIME.V%ARVERS, // DISP=(NEW,CATLG,DELETE),RETPD=45, // UNIT=3390,VOL=SER=SIMS00,SPACE=(CYL,(1,1)) But, I have daily files going back almost 2 years. Is the RETPD honoured at allocation time? Look for message IGD17364I in the IMS joblog. What value is set for "RET LIMIT" in the management class. If it is 0, then EXPDT and RETPD will be ignored, and EXPIRE NON-USAGE and EXPIRE DATE/DAYS determine when space managment considers to delete the data set. Any of those could be NOLIMIT. Or the value is larger than your "almost 2 years". Have you looked a the "Expiration date" in ISPF for any of those data data sets? -- Peter Hunkeler -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN This email transmission and any accompanying attachments may contain CSX privileged and confidential information intended only for the use of the intended addressee. Any dissemination, distribution, copying or action taken in reliance on the contents of this email by anyone other than the intended recipient is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error please immediately delete it and notify sender at the above CSX email address. Sender and CSX accept no liability for any damage caused directly or indirectly by receipt of this email. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: IMS log files question
From the job logs where the file is created: //DFSSLOGP DD DSN=IMSVS.SLDSP.%SSID.D%ARDATE.T%ARTIME.V%ARVERS, // DISP=(NEW,CATLG,DELETE),RETPD=45, // UNIT=3390,VOL=SER=SIMS00,SPACE=(CYL,(1,1)) IGD101I SMS ALLOCATED TO DDNAME (DFSSLOGP) DSN (IMSVS.SLDSP.DBCT.D17018.T0040131.VF3) STORCLAS (SCIMSLOG) MGMTCLAS (MCIMSLOG) DATACLAS () VOL SER NOS= HIMSL2 From the management class panel: MGMTCLAS EXPIRE EXPIRERETPARTIAL PRIMARY NAME NON-USAGE DATE/DAYSLIMIT RELEASE DAYS --(2)--- ---(3)--- ---(4) --(5)-- (6) ---(7)-- MCIMSLOG 7 7 NOLIMIT NO 0 SMS is something I am just learning, but, if I am reading the manual right, I would expect the files to be gone after 7 days. But, from the VTOC: Created Expires 2017.018 2017.063 It appears that I am missing something. Because here is the vtoc dates for one of the old files: Created Expires 2015.190 2015.235 Tony Thigpen Peter Hunkeler wrote on 01/18/2017 01:55 AM: I am reviewing the system VTOCs and I see a lot of IMS log files that contain a date/timestamp in their names. I know they are created by the IMS system using the skeleton proc member ARCHJCL. What I am seeing is that the file was created with a retention period of 45 days. //DFSSLOGP DD DSN=IMSVS.SLDSP.%SSID.D%ARDATE.T%ARTIME.V%ARVERS, // DISP=(NEW,CATLG,DELETE),RETPD=45, // UNIT=3390,VOL=SER=SIMS00,SPACE=(CYL,(1,1)) But, I have daily files going back almost 2 years. Is the RETPD honoured at allocation time? Look for message IGD17364I in the IMS joblog. What value is set for "RET LIMIT" in the management class. If it is 0, then EXPDT and RETPD will be ignored, and EXPIRE NON-USAGE and EXPIRE DATE/DAYS determine when space managment considers to delete the data set. Any of those could be NOLIMIT. Or the value is larger than your "almost 2 years". Have you looked a the "Expiration date" in ISPF for any of those data data sets? -- Peter Hunkeler -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
IMS log files question
Can someone point me in the right direction? I am reviewing the system VTOCs and I see a lot of IMS log files that contain a date/timestamp in their names. I know they are created by the IMS system using the skeleton proc member ARCHJCL. What I am seeing is that the file was created with a retention period of 45 days. //DFSSLOGP DD DSN=IMSVS.SLDSP.%SSID.D%ARDATE.T%ARTIME.V%ARVERS, // DISP=(NEW,CATLG,DELETE),RETPD=45, // UNIT=3390,VOL=SER=SIMS00,SPACE=(CYL,(1,1)) But, I have daily files going back almost 2 years. My conclusion is that something stopped cleaning up the files "back when". Is the clean-up of expired files something normally handled within IMS or outside of IMS? -- Tony Thigpen -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Timeless TV show NASA mainframe (Was: Hidden Figures)
I just watched the Timeless episode mentioned by Frank. Yes, the plot was a little thin when it came to the adding and removing the virus from the mainframe. But, it's not that unexpected of a time travel series. But, I had to laugh when they installed the tape reel with the write protect ring toward the outside, not once, but twice by two different characters. :0 Tony Thigpen Frank Swarbrick wrote on 01/13/2017 01:05 PM: There was a recent episode of the new TV series "Timeless" that involved this era, and in fact had the Katherine G. Johnson<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katherine_Johnson> "character". In this show she and the main characters fairly easily got themselves access to the computer room and "fed a virus" in to the mainframe using paper tape! I'm guessing the TV show was a bit less realistic than the movie...! :-) Frank From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> on behalf of David Boyes <dbo...@sinenomine.net> Sent: Friday, January 13, 2017 9:38 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Hidden Figures It's interesting to note that this mailing list indirectly contributed to the movie. The directors contacted several people on this list whose experience goes back to the days when 7090s walked the earth, and we were able to correct a number of issues about what would have been possible or permitted with such a machine. It's really weird to see how personal computers have influenced people's assumptions about what is and is not possible. NASA's 7090 was strictly access-controlled, and there would have been no ability to touch the hardware, certainly not by applications programmers. The directors had a hard time comprehending the idea of leased machines and charging by the CPU meter -- they didn't believe it until I was able to show them paperwork from that era that laid out IBM's expectations of customer and FE responsibilities and the charging model. So, pat yourselves on the back -- we kept things accurate. The movie's worth seeing. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: AW: Re: AW: Re: 32760 vs. 32768
On z/VSE, LIOCS limits are 32768. PIOCS limits are 65536 (which we use on tape, a lot). Off hand, I don't know if PIOCS supports 64K on DASD or not. Tony Thigpen Peter Hunkeler wrote on 12/16/2016 11:55 AM: >> Does DOS really support 32768? not 32767? Not sure why I typed DOS. I meant z/VSE. Sorry From a vtoc (two different files) where I was trying to move some data from VSE to z/OS: > RECFM BLKSIZE Created Expires DSORG LRECL .DDD .DDD SAM VBS 56660 32768 2016.339 2016.339 Interesting. So, I wonder why the did not make the limit 65535, since this is the maximum number that can be represented in an unsigned haldfword. -- Peter Hunkeler -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: AW: Re: 32760 vs. 32768
> Does DOS really support 32768? not 32767? From a vtoc (two different files) where I was trying to move some data from VSE to z/OS: RECFM BLKSIZE Created Expires DSORG LRECL .DDD .DDD SAM VBS 56660 32768 2016.339 2016.339 SAM VBS 56660 32768 2016.339 2016.339 Tony Thigpen Peter Hunkeler wrote on 12/16/2016 10:04 AM: Recently, I had a file transfer issue between z/VSE and z/OS because VSE support block lengths of 32768 (true 32k) while z/OS only supports 32760 (32k-8). Does DOS really support 32768? not 32767? 32KiB -7 that is. The maximum positive number is 32767 not 23768. -- Peter Hunkeler -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
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With ABO v1.2, is there still a requirement for PDS/E? -- Tony Thigpen -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: 32760 vs. 32768
Recently, I had a file transfer issue between z/VSE and z/OS because VSE support block lengths of 32768 (true 32k) while z/OS only supports 32760 (32k-8). Does anybody know (historically) why z/OS does not support a true 32K block? z/VSE has supported it since "way back" in the DOS days. Tony Thigpen Bill Woodger wrote on 12/16/2016 07:01 AM: 32760 is the maximum blocksize. You have an LRECL of 32760, which is not at least four bytes less than the maximum blocksize. The RC for the message goes up steps of four, and is already busted. Other RC values have multiple items. Some are not even inclusive, and probably can't be. I think it is unrealistic to expect a separate RC for each possible combination of something which is invalid. You didn't get a 20, so something was more twisted than would be normal for this type of error. 34 looks like a catch-all "you've done something 'illogical', you'd best fix it". You could experiment and perhaps find other illogical things which cause a 34. The message-text could perhaps have a main part which is more explicit, and the individual items listed as a "possible explanations" without the implication that all possible causes are covered. It is like trying to document the exact results of "undefined behaviour", and keeping it up-to-date with each change to the software. Now, what happens if you change your LRECL to 32752 at most? Does it "work" (keeping your 32767 for BLKSIZE) and does it give you 32760 for the actual BLKSIZE, or does it fail, and how? With a V rather than VB, you can get to LRECL 32756. So, you've broken three limits (BLKSIZE, LRECL for V, LRECL for VB), and you want a specific RC and message for that, plus, implicitly, additional RCs and specific messages for assorted combinations? I don't think anyone would find that worth the effort, or possible for all "illogical combinations of parameters" possible. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: p370 & p390
Do you really expect anybody to respond positively with such a hidden email address. I know where parts and running systems can be purchased, but you went to so much trouble to hide your identity that I can't give you the information. Tony Thigpen W Mainframe wrote on 12/14/2016 12:47 PM: Guys,I am looking for people who is running a P390 or P370 for IBM parts and features.Thank youDAN Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: HSM old tape cleanup
We got by our chpid problem resolved. We were able to perform an audit
for the bad tape.
Thanks.
Tony Thigpen
Tony Thigpen wrote on 12/14/2016 10:11 AM:
Well, I tried the audit command. Now I have a dead-lock situation.
I did not know that the command would attempt to read the old tape. The
3490 drives and the chipid had been taken offline. Then the 3490 powered
down.
When I issued the command, HSM wants a 3490 tape drive I receive:
STC05537 IEF244I DFSMSHSM DFSMSHSM - UNABLE TO ALLOCATE 1 UNIT(S)
AT LEAST 1 OFFLINE UNIT(S) NEEDED.
STC05537 IEF877E DFSMSHSM NEEDS 1 UNIT(S)
...
STC05537 *0075 IEF238D DFSMSHSM - REPLY DEVICE NAME OR 'CANCEL'.
We tried CANCEL but the request just comes back immediately.
And we can't vary the CHPID online while the request is active.
Tony Thigpen
Richard Marchant wrote on 12/14/2016 08:19 AM:
Tony,
ARC0378I TTOC RECORD AND TAPE MEDIA CONTENTS ARE INCONSISTENT
You can fix this error by issuing the following:
HSEND AUDIT MEDIACONTROLS VOLUMES(volser) FIX ODS(your.dsn)
For the tapes with "IEC514D DCK OR LBL ERR" you will have to delete
either
the T records in the OCDS or their associated records in the BCDS or MCDS
depending whether they are backup or migration tapes.
Richard Marchant
Johannesburg
On Wed, Dec 14, 2016 at 2:03 PM, Tony Thigpen <t...@vse2pdf.com> wrote:
They are in both catalogs. I am not currently concerned with the CA-1
catalog since CA-1 normally scratches the tape when HSM recycles a tape.
Anyway, I can handle CA-1 when/if I get HSM cleaned up.
I am trying to clean-up un-readable 3490 tapes listed in the output
from:
HSEND LIST TTOC SELECT(FULL) ODS ('xxx')
Tony Thigpen
Linda wrote on 12/14/2016 01:37 AM:
Hi Tony,
Listed in the system catalog or the HSM tape catalog, both?
You should be able to list the catalogue entries, and IF they match,
you
could reset the HSM expiration values to a date in the close future,
and
let them expire through normal HSM processing.
Once the datasets are expired and the tapes are scratched you should be
able to remove or replace the volumes or mark them as deleted.
HTH,
Linda
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On Dec 13, 2016, at 2:02 PM, Tony Thigpen <t...@vse2pdf.com> wrote:
I am looking at my HSM TTOC listing. I have 3 old 3490s that are still
listed. I actually have the tapes, but they are unreadable. On two
of them,
I get a label error:
IEC514D DCK OR LBL ERR
On the other one, the TTOC shows:
RC0378I TTOC RECORD AND TAPE MEDIA CONTENTS ARE INCONSISTENT
Since I can't migrate these volumes, how do I just delete these active
tapes from HSM? They are at least 15 years old so I am not worried
about
the data that may have been on them.
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Well, I tried the audit command. Now I have a dead-lock situation.
I did not know that the command would attempt to read the old tape. The
3490 drives and the chipid had been taken offline. Then the 3490 powered
down.
When I issued the command, HSM wants a 3490 tape drive I receive:
STC05537 IEF244I DFSMSHSM DFSMSHSM - UNABLE TO ALLOCATE 1 UNIT(S)
AT LEAST 1 OFFLINE UNIT(S) NEEDED.
STC05537 IEF877E DFSMSHSM NEEDS 1 UNIT(S)
...
STC05537 *0075 IEF238D DFSMSHSM - REPLY DEVICE NAME OR 'CANCEL'.
We tried CANCEL but the request just comes back immediately.
And we can't vary the CHPID online while the request is active.
Tony Thigpen
Richard Marchant wrote on 12/14/2016 08:19 AM:
Tony,
ARC0378I TTOC RECORD AND TAPE MEDIA CONTENTS ARE INCONSISTENT
You can fix this error by issuing the following:
HSEND AUDIT MEDIACONTROLS VOLUMES(volser) FIX ODS(your.dsn)
For the tapes with "IEC514D DCK OR LBL ERR" you will have to delete either
the T records in the OCDS or their associated records in the BCDS or MCDS
depending whether they are backup or migration tapes.
Richard Marchant
Johannesburg
On Wed, Dec 14, 2016 at 2:03 PM, Tony Thigpen <t...@vse2pdf.com> wrote:
They are in both catalogs. I am not currently concerned with the CA-1
catalog since CA-1 normally scratches the tape when HSM recycles a tape.
Anyway, I can handle CA-1 when/if I get HSM cleaned up.
I am trying to clean-up un-readable 3490 tapes listed in the output from:
HSEND LIST TTOC SELECT(FULL) ODS ('xxx')
Tony Thigpen
Linda wrote on 12/14/2016 01:37 AM:
Hi Tony,
Listed in the system catalog or the HSM tape catalog, both?
You should be able to list the catalogue entries, and IF they match, you
could reset the HSM expiration values to a date in the close future, and
let them expire through normal HSM processing.
Once the datasets are expired and the tapes are scratched you should be
able to remove or replace the volumes or mark them as deleted.
HTH,
Linda
Sent from my iPhone
On Dec 13, 2016, at 2:02 PM, Tony Thigpen <t...@vse2pdf.com> wrote:
I am looking at my HSM TTOC listing. I have 3 old 3490s that are still
listed. I actually have the tapes, but they are unreadable. On two of them,
I get a label error:
IEC514D DCK OR LBL ERR
On the other one, the TTOC shows:
RC0378I TTOC RECORD AND TAPE MEDIA CONTENTS ARE INCONSISTENT
Since I can't migrate these volumes, how do I just delete these active
tapes from HSM? They are at least 15 years old so I am not worried about
the data that may have been on them.
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They are in both catalogs. I am not currently concerned with the CA-1
catalog since CA-1 normally scratches the tape when HSM recycles a tape.
Anyway, I can handle CA-1 when/if I get HSM cleaned up.
I am trying to clean-up un-readable 3490 tapes listed in the output from:
HSEND LIST TTOC SELECT(FULL) ODS ('xxx')
Tony Thigpen
Linda wrote on 12/14/2016 01:37 AM:
Hi Tony,
Listed in the system catalog or the HSM tape catalog, both?
You should be able to list the catalogue entries, and IF they match, you could
reset the HSM expiration values to a date in the close future, and let them
expire through normal HSM processing.
Once the datasets are expired and the tapes are scratched you should be able to
remove or replace the volumes or mark them as deleted.
HTH,
Linda
Sent from my iPhone
On Dec 13, 2016, at 2:02 PM, Tony Thigpen <t...@vse2pdf.com> wrote:
I am looking at my HSM TTOC listing. I have 3 old 3490s that are still listed.
I actually have the tapes, but they are unreadable. On two of them, I get a
label error:
IEC514D DCK OR LBL ERR
On the other one, the TTOC shows:
RC0378I TTOC RECORD AND TAPE MEDIA CONTENTS ARE INCONSISTENT
Since I can't migrate these volumes, how do I just delete these active tapes
from HSM? They are at least 15 years old so I am not worried about the data
that may have been on them.
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Re: HSM old tape cleanup
Fails. :-( Issued: HSEND DELVOL 153818 MIGRATION(PURGE) Response was: ARC0260I MIGRATION VOLUME 153818 ENTRY NOT DELETED - VALID DATA MAY EXIST ON ARC0260I (CONT.) VOLUME For the one of the volumes: Issued: HSEND DELVOL 152215 MIGRATION(PURGE) Response was: ARC0378I TTOC RECORD AND TAPE MEDIA CONTENTS ARE INCONSISTENT ON TAPE VOLUME ARC0378I (CONT.) 152215. TAPE VOLUME CANNOT BE DELETED, VALID DATA SETS MAY ARC0378I (CONT.) EXIST ON THE VOLUME Tony Thigpen Allan Staller wrote on 12/13/2016 05:12 PM: HSEND DELVOL volser type PURGE IIRC From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> on behalf of Tony Thigpen <t...@vse2pdf.com> Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2016 4:02:06 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: HSM old tape cleanup I am looking at my HSM TTOC listing. I have 3 old 3490s that are still listed. I actually have the tapes, but they are unreadable. On two of them, I get a label error: IEC514D DCK OR LBL ERR On the other one, the TTOC shows: RC0378I TTOC RECORD AND TAPE MEDIA CONTENTS ARE INCONSISTENT Since I can't migrate these volumes, how do I just delete these active tapes from HSM? They are at least 15 years old so I am not worried about the data that may have been on them. -- Tony Thigpen -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN ::DISCLAIMER:: The contents of this e-mail and any attachment(s) are confidential and intended for the named recipient(s) only. E-mail transmission is not guaranteed to be secure or error-free as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, or may contain viruses in transmission. The e mail and its contents (with or without referred errors) shall therefore not attach any liability on the originator or HCL or its affiliates. Views or opinions, if any, presented in this email are solely those of the author and may not necessarily reflect the views or opinions of HCL or its affiliates. Any form of reproduction, dissemination, copying, disclosure, modification, distribution and / or publication of this message without the prior written consent of authorized representative of HCL is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error please delete it and notify the sender immediately. Before opening any email and/or attachments, please check them for viruses and other defects. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
HSM old tape cleanup
I am looking at my HSM TTOC listing. I have 3 old 3490s that are still listed. I actually have the tapes, but they are unreadable. On two of them, I get a label error: IEC514D DCK OR LBL ERR On the other one, the TTOC shows: RC0378I TTOC RECORD AND TAPE MEDIA CONTENTS ARE INCONSISTENT Since I can't migrate these volumes, how do I just delete these active tapes from HSM? They are at least 15 years old so I am not worried about the data that may have been on them. -- Tony Thigpen -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: HSM question
That's what I thought, but it does not seem to be working. So, I figured I was misreading or doing something wrong. Tony Thigpen retired mainframer wrote on 11/24/2016 04:42 PM: Doesn't SETSYS PARTIALTAPE(BAKCUP(MARKFULL)) do what you want? -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Tony Thigpen Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2016 7:30 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: HSM question The elapsed time is 10 minutes. Before we get off-track too much, the end result we are looking for is: We want the HSM backup process to *always* use a scratch tape. We never want it to ask for an existing tape to append to. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
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The elapsed time is 10 minutes. Before we get off-track too much, the end result we are looking for is: We want the HSM backup process to *always* use a scratch tape. We never want it to ask for an existing tape to append to. We will recycle the tapes to combine them at our convenience. But, as best I can tell, the HSM control parms are already set to not use an existing tape: SETSYS PARTIALTAPE( BACKUP(MARKFULL) - MIGRATION(MARKFULL)) SETSYS SELECTVOLUME( BACKUP(SCRATCH) MIGRATION(SCRATCH) - DUMP(SCRATCH)) Tony Thigpen Elardus Engelbrecht wrote on 11/24/2016 09:09 AM: Tony Thigpen wrote: The remote operator is a human. Tape management system is CA1 Still researching logs. Thanks. I see that output and logs you gave to Lizette. I see you have MOUNT WAIT TIME=010 MINUTE(S), but what are the [elapsed] times for these messages and reply? *IEC501A M 0C01,015010,SL,COMP,DFSMSHSM,DFSMSHSM,DFHSM.BACKTAPE.DATASET *0037 ARC0310A CAN TAPE 015010 BE MOUNTED? REPLY Y OR N R 37,N You said it asked for another mount, is that for this message for which you drove in your car to do that mount? ARC0421I BACKUP VOLUME 015010 IS NOW MARKED FULL Just probing questions, because when I was a HSM admin ages ago, I got many gray hairs about those mounts... It is one of those things for which an autoreply is not going to work always in a 'lights-out 24/7' environment. Good luck! You will need all the help you are deserving. I hope you can get a good solution for this PITA. Groete / Greetings Elardus Engelbrecht -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
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Elardus, The remote operator is a human. Tape management system is CA1 Still researching logs. Tony Thigpen Elardus Engelbrecht wrote on 11/23/2016 02:04 AM: Tony Thigpen wrote: Once a week, HSM performs an AUTOBACKUP. Until about 3 months ago, if nobody was at the shop, HSM would ask for an exiting tape, wait 10 minutes, and if no tape was mounted, it would ask "Can tape be mounted?". If our remote operator replied 'N', then HSM would us a scratch tape. About once ever month or so, we would run a recycle job to combine all the tapes. What remote operator? A person or automated task? Discussions with all the 3 others involved in the discussion 3 months ago came back with "I did not change anything 3 months ago." Really? Do you have any tape management system? So, I have come to the conclusion that somebody issued a command to HSM but did not update the config file so it would be handled at the next IPL. Hmmm, yes something *has* changed! What command(s) was issued? What are the results of that change(s)? Can you get RACF / SMF / SYSLOG records of that ? Lizette gave you good questions. I will certainly listen to her! ;-) Groete / Greetings Elardus Engelbrecht -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
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) from log *TMS009 IEC501A M 0C01,015010,SL,COMP,DFSMSHSM,DFSMSHSM,DFHSM.BACKTAPE.DATASET *IEC501A M 0C01,015010,SL,COMP,DFSMSHSM,DFSMSHSM,DFHSM.BACKTAPE.DATASET *0037 ARC0310A CAN TAPE 015010 BE MOUNTED? REPLY Y OR N R 37,N IEE600I REPLY TO 0037 IS;N IEA989I SLIP TRAP ID=X13E MATCHED. JOBNAME=DFSMSHSM, ASID=0027. IEA989I SLIP TRAP ID=X13E MATCHED. JOBNAME=DFSMSHSM, ASID=0027. IEA989I SLIP TRAP ID=X33E MATCHED. JOBNAME=DFSMSHSM, ASID=0027. ARC0421I BACKUP VOLUME 015010 IS NOW MARKED FULL TMS014 IEF234E K 0C01,015010,PVT,DFSMSHSM,DFSMSHSM IEF234E K 0C01,015010,PVT,DFSMSHSM,DFSMSHSM *TMS009 IEC501A M 0C02,015128,SL,COMP,DFSMSHSM,DFSMSHSM,DFHSM.BACKTAPE.DATASET *IEC501A M 0C02,015128,SL,COMP,DFSMSHSM,DFSMSHSM,DFHSM.BACKTAPE.DATASET Tony Thigpen Lizette Koehler wrote on 11/22/2016 10:10 PM: So some basic questions 1) What version of z/OS? 2) If you do a F dfhsmtaskname,Q SETSYS does it show the same info as the ARCCMDxx member? 3) What is the specific messages you are seeing during autobackup? Lizette -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Tony Thigpen Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2016 4:03 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: HSM question HSM is not my ballgame, but I am tasked with figuring out this puzzle, so bear with me. As for background, the shop attempts to run lights-out 24/7. Once a week, HSM performs an AUTOBACKUP. Until about 3 months ago, if nobody was at the shop, HSM would ask for an exiting tape, wait 10 minutes, and if no tape was mounted, it would ask "Can tape be mounted?". If our remote operator replied 'N', then HSM would us a scratch tape. About once ever month or so, we would run a recycle job to combine all the tapes. About 3 months ago, we had some internal discussions about 'fixing' this so that it would just use scratch tapes without asking for an existing tape. The next thing we knew, the weekly tapes would automatically use a scratch tape. This was good. I assumed that one of the other guys had changed something. Then came the time change and the resulting IPL. Now everything is different. It seems to work the way it did prior to 3 months ago, except for one problem. When the operator replies that the tape can not be mounted, instead of HSM using a scratch tape, it now asks for another HSM tape. After about 4 hours of this last week, I got in my car and went down an mounted the tape. (I am the only one that lives in the same town as the processor.) Discussions with all the 3 others involved in the discussion 3 months ago came back with "I did not change anything 3 months ago." But, the other 2 guys that know HSM also say "We are busy. If you want it different, figure it out and change it." Key items I see in the config file are: SETSYS PARTIALTAPE( BACKUP(MARKFULL) - MIGRATION(MARKFULL)) SETSYS SELECTVOLUME( BACKUP(SCRATCH) MIGRATION(SCRATCH) - DUMP(SCRATCH)) SETSYS RECYCLEPERCENT(33) MAXRECYCLETASKS(1) SETSYS TAPEUTILIZATION( UNITTYPE(3590-1) PERCENTFULL(97)) SETSYS TAPESPANSIZE(100) (And the output of HSEND QUERY SETSYS is the same.) The last update date stamp on the config files was 15/12/22. So, I have come to the conclusion that somebody issued a command to HSM but did not update the config file so it would be handled at the next IPL. Looking for any input. -- Tony Thigpen -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
HSM question
HSM is not my ballgame, but I am tasked with figuring out this puzzle, so bear with me. As for background, the shop attempts to run lights-out 24/7. Once a week, HSM performs an AUTOBACKUP. Until about 3 months ago, if nobody was at the shop, HSM would ask for an exiting tape, wait 10 minutes, and if no tape was mounted, it would ask "Can tape be mounted?". If our remote operator replied 'N', then HSM would us a scratch tape. About once ever month or so, we would run a recycle job to combine all the tapes. About 3 months ago, we had some internal discussions about 'fixing' this so that it would just use scratch tapes without asking for an existing tape. The next thing we knew, the weekly tapes would automatically use a scratch tape. This was good. I assumed that one of the other guys had changed something. Then came the time change and the resulting IPL. Now everything is different. It seems to work the way it did prior to 3 months ago, except for one problem. When the operator replies that the tape can not be mounted, instead of HSM using a scratch tape, it now asks for another HSM tape. After about 4 hours of this last week, I got in my car and went down an mounted the tape. (I am the only one that lives in the same town as the processor.) Discussions with all the 3 others involved in the discussion 3 months ago came back with "I did not change anything 3 months ago." But, the other 2 guys that know HSM also say "We are busy. If you want it different, figure it out and change it." Key items I see in the config file are: SETSYS PARTIALTAPE( BACKUP(MARKFULL) - MIGRATION(MARKFULL)) SETSYS SELECTVOLUME( BACKUP(SCRATCH) MIGRATION(SCRATCH) - DUMP(SCRATCH)) SETSYS RECYCLEPERCENT(33) MAXRECYCLETASKS(1) SETSYS TAPEUTILIZATION( UNITTYPE(3590-1) PERCENTFULL(97)) SETSYS TAPESPANSIZE(100) (And the output of HSEND QUERY SETSYS is the same.) The last update date stamp on the config files was 15/12/22. So, I have come to the conclusion that somebody issued a command to HSM but did not update the config file so it would be handled at the next IPL. Looking for any input. -- Tony Thigpen -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Mainframe systems programmer ID 'vaulting'
As usual, some pc based person only thinks of the way their world works. I have been though multiple audits at multiple companies where they accepted that: 1) System programmers had two logons. One "normal" and one "higher". The "normal" userid still had some privileged access, but nothing like the "higher" userid which had basically unlimited access. 2) Additional audit trails were created for the "higher" userid. Both that fact that they logged on and what they did. 3) The systems programmers split their libraries and work processes so that they only used the "higher" userid when really necessary. The fact was that we had to negotiate what was considered "daily" work and what was considered "special" work. This took a bit of time and was refined over time. A lot of the decisions revolved around READ-ONLY vs UPDATE rights on many of the libraries. Also, the security rules were different depending on which LPAR or Guest we were logged on to. Our normal userid could do everything on the systems programmer test LPAR. On the Development LPAR, it could do most everything. Our real limits were on the production LPARs. That being said, I think you are going to have to also go down the same road where you split your work processes and libraries into normal daily stuff and "special" stuff. It will take you a while to get into the mindset, but in the end you will find that it worth it. It will take a lot of negotiating, but it Since the first place where I was forced into this arrangement, I have implemented it at other locations. Yes, the systems programmers thought it was terrible at first, but once they got used to it, they realized that it sometimes saved their bacon. (Think "SHUTDOWN" under VM!) They had to learn to think: Which hat am I wearing right now? A limited systems programmer hat or the mainframe "god" hat. If you get your workloads split correctly, you may not need to use a vaulted userid as often. Tony Thigpen James Peddycord wrote on 11/22/2016 11:52 AM: NTAC:3NS-20 Our company is undergoing a project to 'protect privileged access' by using a password vaulting product. We have been doing this for quite some time for applications teams who require higher levels of access to production datasets for problem resolution, installs, etc. The way it works is that a pool of logonids is created, along with an AD group that allows the appropriate applications folks to be able to 'check out' one of these pooled logonids for 24 hours via a web interface. The web interface uses the users lan password plus their secure key passcode and phrase to validate their identity. The project has now included Windows and Unix server admins, but instead of a pooled logonid these users have separate logonids with admin access and they 'check out' their own individual administrator logonid. Now the project has moved into the mainframe systems programmer space. So far we have used the 'privileges' on the logonid records as defined by our security product to limit this vaulting. Users with 'security' access must check out logonids from the vault. Users with the non-cncl privilege are next. During project discussions it has been brought up that the systems programmers, with their access to SYS1 datasets and operator commands, are privileged users by nature, and that eventually they are going to want to vault this access. We (the systems programmers) are strongly against this. It looks like at some point we will lose our battle and our access to the mainframe will be vaulted, meaning my entire team will need to check a logonid out of the password vault every morning before starting work. Our main argument now is that we do not want these logonids to be generic, pooled logonids, we want them to be basically the same as our own logonids so that we can see who did what by using the mainframe's built in logging (SMF data, ISPF stats, etc...). My questions are, are other companies using password vaulting or other multi-level authentication for mainframe systems programmer access? What else could we use in our argument against using generic, pooled logonids? Thanks in advance! Jim -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: z/VSE Connector Client
You need to ask on VSE-L. vs...@lists.lehigh.edu https://lists.lehigh.edu/mailman/listinfo/vse-l Tony Thigpen Jack J. Woehr wrote on 11/04/2016 11:40 PM: Is there any IBM program or ISV providing free access for z/VSE development? This veteran of JTOpen and other remote APIs has just discovered the existence of the z/VSE Connector Client! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: TV news just now
Did you see this: The FAA just officially approved turkey drops. http://www.avweb.com/avwebflash/news/FAA-Approves-Turkey-Drop-227176-1.html Tony Thigpen Edward Finnell wrote on 10/28/2016 07:58 PM: "Who knew turkeys couldn't fly?" In a message dated 10/28/2016 6:52:36 P.M. Central Daylight Time, t...@vse2pdf.com writes: Any relation to Les Nessman? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: TV news just now
Any relation to Les Nessman? (He was at a radio station in Cincinnati late 70's, early 80's.) :-) Tony Thigpen Tom Brennan wrote on 10/28/2016 07:47 PM: News channels here in Los Angeles sometimes use a certain expert to comment on airplane accidents, and he always catches my attention because his name is Les Abend. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Language Environment LIBVEC layout?
I had to sign paperwork to get my copy, back when... I guess it has been released to general public since then. Tony Thigpen Tony Harminc wrote on 10/20/2016 12:48 PM: On 20 October 2016 at 08:47, Tony Thigpen <t...@vse2pdf.com> wrote: If you are a vendor, you should have access to the LE vendor manual. Some of the pointer locations can be deduced from it. If you are not a vendor, you don't have access to the manual. The LE Vendor Interfaces manual, SA38-0688 is no secret. It's part of the standard collection of LE books. It's also the book that Pete just mentioned in its KC version. Unless you know of some other *truly secret* LE Vendor book... Tony H. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Language Environment LIBVEC layout?
If you are a vendor, you should have access to the LE vendor manual. Some of the pointer locations can be deduced from it. If you are not a vendor, you don't have access to the manual. Tony Thigpen Pete Dillon wrote on 10/20/2016 08:36 AM: Many thanks for that. The documentation for the CEETLOC service* shows two macros being invoked, CEEXCELV and CEEXCAA - the CAA and the vector table I alluded to in my original post. But they seem to have gone AWOL somehow - certainly they are not in the concatenation SYS1.MACLIB SYS1.MODGEN SYSCEE.SCEEMAC - and a hunt around the usual HLQs (SYS1 and SYSCEE) doesn't find them. Can anyone assist? It's odd that a documented macro can't be found, although my admittedly limited knowledge of assembler may be to blame. Thanks in advance for any pointers! Pete. * - at http://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/SSLTBW_2.2.0/com.ibm.zos.v2r2.c eev100/ceetloc.htm -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: EXTERNAL: Re: remote system support (i.e. the data center is 2 states away from you).
> Setting up a separate PC (unless your box doesn't support the > ICC consoles) is really not necessary. Experience suggests otherwise. The separate PCs for the primary consoles has come about because of our experience with network failures. They are connected directly to the same switch as the OSA-C. So, you never loose all the consoles over an extended timeframe. (We don't have anyone on-site so they can fail and we might not know it for weeks.) Laptops are used because they are not on the same UPS as the CPU's (we have several z CPUs). The battery gives us a long non-power run-time since the lid is closed and the screen is off. (We only access them via RDP.) Tony Thigpen Brian Westerman wrote on 09/30/2016 04:03 AM: I'm actually kind of surprised at the number of sites that don't code the OSA-ICC consoles as NIP available. They were designed to function in that manner, and you can then always have remote access (assuming you have a VPN). If you don't have a VPN set up for your mainframe, you are just asking for trouble. If you do have one, then not using it to support the box seems very silly indeed. Setting up a separate PC (unless your box doesn't support the ICC consoles) is really not necessary. Brian On Wed, 28 Sep 2016 16:17:25 -0400, Tony Thigpen <t...@vse2pdf.com> wrote: Our remote systems support staff have multiple remote access to the consoles: 1) The initial IPL console is on a laptop in the computer room with Windows 7 PRO. If needed, this box can be remotely accessed using RDP over a VPN. 2) A backup console is always running on a second laptop with the same RDP over VPN access. 3) Each sysprog has their own dedicated console which is accessed via the OSA-C. I connect and keep my personal console running all the time but minimized. 4) We have one person in town that lives only 5 minutes from the data-center. We can always call them. 5) There is another company in the same building that manages WinTel servers. They have access to our data-center and can be called 24/7. Tony Thigpen Jerry Whitteridge wrote on 09/28/2016 01:34 PM: This indicates a weakness in your console deployment - my staff have remote access to all the consoles they need (including the Master) Jerry Whitteridge Manager Mainframe Systems & Storage Albertsons - Safeway Inc. 925 738 9443 Corporate Tieline - 89443 If you feel in control you just aren't going fast enough. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Edward Gould Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 9:10 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: EXTERNAL: Re: remote system support (i.e. the data center is 2 states away from you). On Sep 28, 2016, at 12:28 AM, Brian Westerman <brian_wester...@syzygyinc.com> wrote: Hi John, Our company (Syzygy Incorporated) fully supports more than 70 sites remotely, all over the world. On top of that we provide partial support for another 60 to 70 sites. Some are large (300+MSU) and some are quite small (8 to 10 MSU), but they all need our expertise and not being "on-site" has never been an issue. We also have a suite of system automation products that we maintain at several hundred sites. Even 10 to 12 years ago, it was very unusual to be "at" a site or if you were physically there, to be anywhere near the actual computer room. Once a site realizes that the systems programmer doesn't need to be in that room, it's only a small jump for them to understand that you get just as much support from the next floor, or the next building, or the next city, etc. I can still remember some knock-down drag out fights between the systems programmers and the operations group on whether or not the systems programmers should ever be allowed into the computer room. We (systems programmers) always won that argument, but now I wonder why I fought it for so long. :) ——SNIP——— I will disagree with you on this one. Our data center is on 2 floors and running upstairs is still needed as consoles (except the master) is still needed to this day. Just last week all consoles (except the master) were locked out (TSO was dead as were other possibilities). We were able to get the system back (and working in good order) by a combination of operator commands. Ed -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN Warning: All e-mail sent to this address will be received by the corporate e-mail system, and is subject to archival and review by someone other than the recipient. This e-mail may contain proprietary information and is intended only for the use of the intended recipient(s). If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient(s), you are notified that you have re
Re: remote system support (i.e. the data center is 2 states away from you).
Times have changed. Just ask the auditors if they have VPN access to their files so that they can work from home. If they say yes, then you should be able to have VPN consoles too. Or, just set it up and don't tell them. If they ever figure it out, just say that 'Joe' (some retired auditor) approved it many years ago. Let them prove he did not. Tony Thigpen Edward Gould wrote on 09/29/2016 03:44 AM: On Sep 28, 2016, at 11:49 PM, Brian Westerman <brian_wester...@syzygyinc.com> wrote: Now that most mainframes (at least for the past several years) have OSA-ICC's, there is no reason to worry about not having a console connection remotely. We routinely define 16 consoles and 16 3270's (non-console) to each LPAR (a few more for production LPARs sometimes). I can't think of the last time that I couldn't get into any of the client mainframes that wasn't a flat-out network issue, and that can't normally be handled from z/OS anyway. That's why you have network appliances to control the network. You need to make sure that you ALWAYS have multiple points of entry to the LPARs available to you, TCP to OSA, TCP to OSA-ICC, LPAR to LPAR, etc. If a site is still using and/or paying for a local control unit and 3270's when their system supports OSA-ICC they really need to think about spending their money more wisely. I would trust an OSA-ICC a lot more than some old 3274. The ICC's are cheap enough that really worried sites can purchase a backup. If you need to enter the computer room to get or keep your site working, then you are doing something wrong. I'm not saying that you might not need to get to the HMC, but if you physically have to go to it to use it, then you have set things up badly. We do have a couple very old sites (who don't have OSA-ICC's) where the backup way in is the HMC, and then a dial-up to the HMC in case the network to the HMC fails. One of the banks we support still has local 3274 control units on a z800, and they have a phone line attached to a PC in the computer room that is wired directly to the 3274 via CUT. We have never needed to use it, but we still test it out once a month. In my opinion, in the end, it's up to you as the consultant to make sure that you can get in if there is a problem. If you don't set it up right or can't, then you're in the wrong business. This is not meant as a comment on anyone's abilities, not everyone is going to know how to set things up for 100% remote support without doing some research. In my case, I helped to design some of it, so I'm able to work comfortably with it. Brian Brian: One of there specific episodes we had was that the master console was the only one that was “talking”. As to other options you listed the auditors cut them off years ago and no use arguing with them (BTDT). As for HMC remote access again the auditors wouldn’t allow it no matter how much we argued (besides I sort of agree with them on the HMC issue). I won’t go into the old xmas party story I use regularly on here and what could happen. Ed -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: EXTERNAL: Re: remote system support (i.e. the data center is 2 states away from you).
And, I forgot to include remote access to the HMC. Tony Thigpen Tony Thigpen wrote on 09/28/2016 04:17 PM: Our remote systems support staff have multiple remote access to the consoles: 1) The initial IPL console is on a laptop in the computer room with Windows 7 PRO. If needed, this box can be remotely accessed using RDP over a VPN. 2) A backup console is always running on a second laptop with the same RDP over VPN access. 3) Each sysprog has their own dedicated console which is accessed via the OSA-C. I connect and keep my personal console running all the time but minimized. 4) We have one person in town that lives only 5 minutes from the data-center. We can always call them. 5) There is another company in the same building that manages WinTel servers. They have access to our data-center and can be called 24/7. Tony Thigpen Jerry Whitteridge wrote on 09/28/2016 01:34 PM: This indicates a weakness in your console deployment - my staff have remote access to all the consoles they need (including the Master) Jerry Whitteridge Manager Mainframe Systems & Storage Albertsons - Safeway Inc. 925 738 9443 Corporate Tieline - 89443 If you feel in control you just aren't going fast enough. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Edward Gould Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 9:10 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: EXTERNAL: Re: remote system support (i.e. the data center is 2 states away from you). On Sep 28, 2016, at 12:28 AM, Brian Westerman <brian_wester...@syzygyinc.com> wrote: Hi John, Our company (Syzygy Incorporated) fully supports more than 70 sites remotely, all over the world. On top of that we provide partial support for another 60 to 70 sites. Some are large (300+MSU) and some are quite small (8 to 10 MSU), but they all need our expertise and not being "on-site" has never been an issue. We also have a suite of system automation products that we maintain at several hundred sites. Even 10 to 12 years ago, it was very unusual to be "at" a site or if you were physically there, to be anywhere near the actual computer room. Once a site realizes that the systems programmer doesn't need to be in that room, it's only a small jump for them to understand that you get just as much support from the next floor, or the next building, or the next city, etc. I can still remember some knock-down drag out fights between the systems programmers and the operations group on whether or not the systems programmers should ever be allowed into the computer room. We (systems programmers) always won that argument, but now I wonder why I fought it for so long. :) ——SNIP——— I will disagree with you on this one. Our data center is on 2 floors and running upstairs is still needed as consoles (except the master) is still needed to this day. Just last week all consoles (except the master) were locked out (TSO was dead as were other possibilities). We were able to get the system back (and working in good order) by a combination of operator commands. Ed -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN Warning: All e-mail sent to this address will be received by the corporate e-mail system, and is subject to archival and review by someone other than the recipient. This e-mail may contain proprietary information and is intended only for the use of the intended recipient(s). If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient(s), you are notified that you have received this message in error and that any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: EXTERNAL: Re: remote system support (i.e. the data center is 2 states away from you).
Our remote systems support staff have multiple remote access to the consoles: 1) The initial IPL console is on a laptop in the computer room with Windows 7 PRO. If needed, this box can be remotely accessed using RDP over a VPN. 2) A backup console is always running on a second laptop with the same RDP over VPN access. 3) Each sysprog has their own dedicated console which is accessed via the OSA-C. I connect and keep my personal console running all the time but minimized. 4) We have one person in town that lives only 5 minutes from the data-center. We can always call them. 5) There is another company in the same building that manages WinTel servers. They have access to our data-center and can be called 24/7. Tony Thigpen Jerry Whitteridge wrote on 09/28/2016 01:34 PM: This indicates a weakness in your console deployment - my staff have remote access to all the consoles they need (including the Master) Jerry Whitteridge Manager Mainframe Systems & Storage Albertsons - Safeway Inc. 925 738 9443 Corporate Tieline - 89443 If you feel in control you just aren't going fast enough. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Edward Gould Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 9:10 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: EXTERNAL: Re: remote system support (i.e. the data center is 2 states away from you). On Sep 28, 2016, at 12:28 AM, Brian Westerman <brian_wester...@syzygyinc.com> wrote: Hi John, Our company (Syzygy Incorporated) fully supports more than 70 sites remotely, all over the world. On top of that we provide partial support for another 60 to 70 sites. Some are large (300+MSU) and some are quite small (8 to 10 MSU), but they all need our expertise and not being "on-site" has never been an issue. We also have a suite of system automation products that we maintain at several hundred sites. Even 10 to 12 years ago, it was very unusual to be "at" a site or if you were physically there, to be anywhere near the actual computer room. Once a site realizes that the systems programmer doesn't need to be in that room, it's only a small jump for them to understand that you get just as much support from the next floor, or the next building, or the next city, etc. I can still remember some knock-down drag out fights between the systems programmers and the operations group on whether or not the systems programmers should ever be allowed into the computer room. We (systems programmers) always won that argument, but now I wonder why I fought it for so long. :) ——SNIP——— I will disagree with you on this one. Our data center is on 2 floors and running upstairs is still needed as consoles (except the master) is still needed to this day. Just last week all consoles (except the master) were locked out (TSO was dead as were other possibilities). We were able to get the system back (and working in good order) by a combination of operator commands. Ed -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN Warning: All e-mail sent to this address will be received by the corporate e-mail system, and is subject to archival and review by someone other than the recipient. This e-mail may contain proprietary information and is intended only for the use of the intended recipient(s). If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient(s), you are notified that you have received this message in error and that any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: included text from every other reply in a email chain..
Unfortunately, my company REQUIRES that any replies include everything in the past. Too many people were taking things out of context and replying to them and CC'ing others. Then the others would then get involved because they thought the original poster was in the wrong. So, the rule came down. Of course, we also have to top post which is how *any* civilized person does things. Tony Thigpen David Boyes wrote on 08/19/2016 09:11 AM: ... Personally, I hate bottom-posting, but the majority here seem to be in favor of it, so I comply. I don't bottom-post except on listservs. I go a somewhat different way: I trim all the material to which I'm not directly replying, especially .sigs, disclaimers, and legal notices. :grump.on THIS. If you reply, include ONLY the relevant portion of the note you’re replying to. It focuses your reply on the important part of what you’re trying to say. We don’t need to see 11 copies of the required disclaimers, etc. It’s a continuation of good behavior (a la Emily Postnews) and saves space and time. If you need context, the messages are in the list archives. :egrump. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: JCL "COMMAND" statements - Follow-up question
One other question.
Is there a way to wait between multiple commands when using the TSO
command processor?
I am guessing that I will need to create a small REXX that waits based
on a parm.
Tony Thigpen
Tony Thigpen wrote on 05/17/2016 08:01 AM:
Thanks.
It turns out that "OC" is part of OPS/MVS, so I now can document the job.
Tony Thigpen
Jeremy Nicoll wrote on 05/17/2016 07:30 AM:
On Tue, 17 May 2016, at 12:19, Tony Thigpen wrote:
OK, dumb question time.
My job is working with some JCL I found in another job:
//STEP01 EXEC PGM=IKJEFT1A,REGION=0M
//SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=*
//SYSTSPRT DD SYSOUT=*
//SYSTERM DD SYSOUT=*
//SYSTSOUT DD SYSOUT=*
//SYSTSIN DD *
OC C('DS QD,TYPE=ALL,ONLINE')
/*
But, I want to look at the "OC" rexx and I can not find it in any of the
normal libraries that I have been told are used by our jobs.
Wouldn't it be a TSO Command Processor (not a rexx exec), and thus in
SYS1.CMDLIB ?
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Re: JCL "COMMAND" statements - Follow-up question
Thanks.
It turns out that "OC" is part of OPS/MVS, so I now can document the job.
Tony Thigpen
Jeremy Nicoll wrote on 05/17/2016 07:30 AM:
On Tue, 17 May 2016, at 12:19, Tony Thigpen wrote:
OK, dumb question time.
My job is working with some JCL I found in another job:
//STEP01 EXEC PGM=IKJEFT1A,REGION=0M
//SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=*
//SYSTSPRT DD SYSOUT=*
//SYSTERM DD SYSOUT=*
//SYSTSOUT DD SYSOUT=*
//SYSTSIN DD *
OC C('DS QD,TYPE=ALL,ONLINE')
/*
But, I want to look at the "OC" rexx and I can not find it in any of the
normal libraries that I have been told are used by our jobs.
Wouldn't it be a TSO Command Processor (not a rexx exec), and thus in
SYS1.CMDLIB ?
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Re: JCL "COMMAND" statements - Follow-up question
OK, dumb question time.
My job is working with some JCL I found in another job:
//STEP01 EXEC PGM=IKJEFT1A,REGION=0M
//SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=*
//SYSTSPRT DD SYSOUT=*
//SYSTERM DD SYSOUT=*
//SYSTSOUT DD SYSOUT=*
//SYSTSIN DD *
OC C('DS QD,TYPE=ALL,ONLINE')
/*
But, I want to look at the "OC" rexx and I can not find it in any of the
normal libraries that I have been told are used by our jobs.
How do I find 'OC'? (Or, am I looking for the wrong thing?)
Tony Thigpen
Itschak Mugzach wrote on 05/16/2016 03:20 PM:
OK. my version is based on TSO CONSOLE command. It reads command and
verification value from sysin (see rexx test below), execure the command
and verifies that the command response equal to the one read from sysin. it
can be easily modified to read multiple commands and verification strings.
The idea behind the verification is to ensure that the command executed as
expected (file was closed, job was started, etc.). igone the copywrite
statement of course...
Best,
ITschak
/* MugiRexx V1.3 */
ConsoleCommandInterface:
Signal ConsoleCommandInterface.main
ConsoleCommandInterface.Doc:
--
CCC
Console Command Confirmation
the program receives input from Parmlib in the format of:
SET CMDTEXT = 'command'
SET CMDVERIFY = 'value to look in the command response'
> CmdVerify must follow CMDTEXT.
> example:
set cmdtext = '+dbr db pge'
set cmdverify = 'DFS0488I DBR COMMAND COMPLETED'
Copyright (c) SecuriTeam Software, 1999-2012. All Rights Reserved
--
ConsoleCommandInterface.Main:
Call ReadParmlib
Call ConsoleCmd
Return
--
ConsoleCmd:
MsgMode = Msg('OFF')
xTrap = Outtrap('xMsgs.')
"CONSPROF SOLDISP(NO) UNSOLDISP(NO)"
"CONSOLE ACTIVATE NAME(IMS)"
Do i = 1 to K
CmdText = CmdBuff.i.Cmd
CmdVerify = CmdBuff.i.Verify
"CONSOLE SYSCMD("CmdText") cart(x1938)"
MsgResp = GetMsg('Msg.','SOL',x1938,,162)
say 'number of responses from cmd:' msg.0
do j = 1 to Msg.0
say 'response from mvs:' msg.j
If ((Pos(CmdVerify,Msg.j)>0) | (Pos('DFS058I',Msg.j) > 0)) ,
Then Do
Say 'STE5006I Command execution confirmed by server.',
'command:' CmdText
Leave
End
End
If (j > Msg.0) Then Do
Say 'STE5007E Command execution not confirmed by server.'
Say 'STE5008W Command text:' CmdText
Say 'STE500iE Rest of commands not executed!'
Exit 20
End
End
"CONSOLE DEACTIVATE"
Say 'STE5010I Console session completed.'
Return
--
ReadParmlib:
/* */
/* Parmlib should be pre-allocated by the caller, as the main */
/* use of this program is to run under a job step. */
/* */
AuthVars = 'CMDTEXT CMDVERIFY'
FileStatus = ListDsi('PARMLIB FILE')
If (FileStatus > 4) Then Do
If (sysreason <> 3) Then Do
Say 'STE5001E Parmlib not allocated in JCL.',
FileStatus SysReason
Say 'STE5002I Fix JCL and re-run the job.'
Exit 20
End
End
"ExecIO * DiskR PARMLIB (Stem Parm. finis"
K = 0
Do i = 1 to Parm.0
parm.i = Substr(Parm.i,1,71)
xPos = Pos(';',Parm.i)
If (xPos > 0) Then Do
parm.i = Substr(Parm.i,1,xPos-1)
End
Parse Upper Var Parm.i CmdOpt CmdVar . CmdValue
If (CmdOpt = 'SET') Then Do
If (POS(CmdVar,AuthVars) = 0) Then Do
Say 'STE5003E Variable' CmdVar 'is not defined to Program'
Say 'STE5004I Please verify PARMLIB syntax.'
Exit 20
End
Interpret CmdVar '=' CmdValue
If (CmdVar = 'CMDTEXT') Then Do
CmdFound = 'YES'
End
If (CmdVar = 'CMDVERIFY') Then Do
If (CmdFound Ž= 'YES') Then Do
Say 'STE5006E Sequence error. No command definded for',
'verification by line' i'.'
exit 20
End
K = K + 1
say 'k='k cmdtext
CmdBuff.k.Cmd= CmdText
CmdBuff.k.Verify = CmdVerify
CmdFound = 'NO'
End
Say 'STE5005I Variable' CmdVar 'SET TO' Value(CmdVar)'.'
End
End
Return
ITschak Mugzach
Z/OS, ISV Products and Application Security & Risk Assessments Professional
On Mon, May 16,
Re: JCL "COMMAND" statements
These are 'system' jobs that are running with higher security. Most are nightly to stop some regions for nightly processes. Tony Thigpen Jeremy Nicoll wrote on 05/16/2016 12:19 PM: On Mon, 16 May 2016, at 17:03, Itschak Mugzach wrote: Tony. You may already seen that the //comand1 is not a dd nor exe jcl card. It is a jcl command statement and has nothing to do with the job steps. Jcl commands and jes /* commands are executed at conversion tome independed with the job status. They are executed even if the job will never run. As others explained, u can use tso console command and even verify response. This way u can use a single jobstep. Quite a few years ago, we used steps which issued a WTOR asking for something to be done, and either - even longer ago - real operators then did it, or more recently AOC would issue the command PROVIDED THE JOB ASKING FOR IT WAS ALLOWED TO DO IT and then reply to the WTOR. Generally I discouraged people from coding actual commands in the WTOR text, and made the AOC code NOT execute the arbitrary contents of the WTOR as a command. So we end up with, if you like, plain text requests "PLEASE DO SOMETHING OR OTHER" and translated them into the actual command or commands required. I can't imagine working in a site that would allow any job to issue any arbitrary command! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: JCL "COMMAND" statements
Thanks all.
After the many suggestions, it 'rang a bell' with something I had worked
on before:
//STEP01 EXEC PGM=IKJEFT1A,REGION=0M
//SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=*
//SYSTSPRT DD SYSOUT=*
//SYSTERM DD SYSOUT=*
//SYSTSOUT DD SYSOUT=*
//SYSTSIN DD *
OC C('DS QD,TYPE=ALL,ONLINE')
/*
I have used the same OC exec to make one of my jobs work right.
Tony Thigpen
Nims,Alva John (Al) wrote on 05/16/2016 11:46 AM:
Check CBTTAPE.ORG there might be a couple of them there.
Create a REXX program to interface with TSO "OPERATOR" command or interface
with SDSF API.
Can check results
IEBGENER to STDRDR, use $VS'' to issue MVS commands.
Can't check results.
Al Nims
Systems Admin/Programmer 3
UFIT
University of Florida
(352) 273-1298
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Subject: JCL "COMMAND" statements
I have spent most of my life as a z/VSE and z/VM systems programmer, but during
the last year, I have been managing a couple of z/OS systems in our small
outsourcing shop.
At this point, I would consider myself just a very knowledgeable, but still
novice z/OS systems programmer. So, be gentle with your replies. :-) And,
please don't laugh.
Last night/this morning, I have stumped because I noticed that some JCL set up
by a previous systems programmer was not working as it appeared it should. [At
least, until I read the manual.]
We have many jobs set up something like thus:
//STEP1EXEC PGM=IEFBR14
//COMMD1 COMMAND 'S CICSPTOR'
//WAIT1EXEC PGM=WAITRCAB,PARM='30' wait 30 seconds
//STEP2EXEC PGM=IEFBR14
//COMMD1 COMMAND 'S CICSPDOR'
//WAIT2EXEC PGM=WAITRCAB,PARM='30' wait 30 seconds
//STEP3EXEC PGM=IEFBR14
//COMMD1 COMMAND 'S CICSPAOR1'
//COMMD1 COMMAND 'S CICSPAOR2'
//WAIT3EXEC PGM=WAITRCAB,PARM='30' wait 30 seconds
//*
I, of course, though the commands would be synchronized with the execution JCL.
But, we were seeing timing errors that could not be corrected by just
increasing the wait timers. So, I started looking for the problem and found
that all the commands were being issued to the console before the first IEFBR14
even executed.
I was totally surprised when I found that IBM documents the COMMAND jcl card as
being processed during the JCL conversion phase and not during the execution
phase. *And* that a previous systems programmer must not have known it either.
So, now I have 2 questions for the knowledgeable people on the list:
1) Are there any other jcl statements that are executed outside the normal
execution phase?
2) What is the 'normal' method to issue console commands synchronized with the
job execution?
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JCL "COMMAND" statements
I have spent most of my life as a z/VSE and z/VM systems programmer, but during the last year, I have been managing a couple of z/OS systems in our small outsourcing shop. At this point, I would consider myself just a very knowledgeable, but still novice z/OS systems programmer. So, be gentle with your replies. :-) And, please don't laugh. Last night/this morning, I have stumped because I noticed that some JCL set up by a previous systems programmer was not working as it appeared it should. [At least, until I read the manual.] We have many jobs set up something like thus: //STEP1EXEC PGM=IEFBR14 //COMMD1 COMMAND 'S CICSPTOR' //WAIT1EXEC PGM=WAITRCAB,PARM='30' wait 30 seconds //STEP2EXEC PGM=IEFBR14 //COMMD1 COMMAND 'S CICSPDOR' //WAIT2EXEC PGM=WAITRCAB,PARM='30' wait 30 seconds //STEP3EXEC PGM=IEFBR14 //COMMD1 COMMAND 'S CICSPAOR1' //COMMD1 COMMAND 'S CICSPAOR2' //WAIT3EXEC PGM=WAITRCAB,PARM='30' wait 30 seconds //* I, of course, though the commands would be synchronized with the execution JCL. But, we were seeing timing errors that could not be corrected by just increasing the wait timers. So, I started looking for the problem and found that all the commands were being issued to the console before the first IEFBR14 even executed. I was totally surprised when I found that IBM documents the COMMAND jcl card as being processed during the JCL conversion phase and not during the execution phase. *And* that a previous systems programmer must not have known it either. So, now I have 2 questions for the knowledgeable people on the list: 1) Are there any other jcl statements that are executed outside the normal execution phase? 2) What is the 'normal' method to issue console commands synchronized with the job execution? -- Tony Thigpen -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: 1620 veterans! [was:RE: What was a 3314?]
"sensible students" *OXYMORON* Tony Thigpen Farley, Peter x23353 wrote on 05/16/2016 10:48 AM: You too? Hey, this is a small world indeed. You didn't happen to attend a certain engineering college (now gone, sad to say) in Brooklyn, NY in the late 1960's, did you? At one point I was addicted to beating 3D TicTacToe using the 1620 console late nights when all sensible students were sleeping . . . Peter -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of John McKown Sent: Monday, May 16, 2016 10:20 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: What was a 3314? (was: Whither VIO) On Mon, May 16, 2016 at 9:09 AM, R.S. <r.skoru...@bremultibank.com.pl> wrote: W dniu 2016-05-16 o 16:01, Jerry Callen pisze: In the "Whither VIO" thread, J.O.Skip Robinson wrote: In a previous life, we defined VIO (I believe) to device 3314 even though we had none left on the floor That's a device type I've never heard of, and the Google knows not of. Could this be a typo for "2314"? IMHO anything older than 3380 is prehistory or a myth ;-) Hum, I had a 1316 disk volume (dismountable like ) when I was in college. It was used in the 1311 disk storage unit, attached to a 1620 computer. I loved that machine. A kind of "personal computer" for running FORTRAN II programs. -- This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments from your system. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: can a program determine the capacity setting of a z-box?
Yep. I can get there. Getting in and out of supervisor state is common in my code. Tony Thigpen Greg Dyck wrote on 04/26/2016 01:13 PM: Tony, If you can get into supervisor state, use the STSI instruction. Under z/OS the CSRSI service uses STSI to provide the data that it returns to problem program state requestors. I don't know if VSE provides any equivalent service. Greg On 4/25/2016 10:55 AM, Tony Thigpen wrote: Is there a way for a program to check the capacity setting for a processor? For instance, are we running on a A01 or a w04, etc. processor? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
