Re: [ilugd] Hijacked Thread: D00d3tt3z on ILUG-d?

2005-08-22 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi With a danger of hijacking this thread I am diverting from the original topic to address Raju's concerns Raj Mathur wrote: >-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > >I feel that it makes sense to bring in larger issues of social change >where they can have an impact on the issue at hand; however

Re: [ilugd] D00d3tt3z on ILUG-d?

2005-08-22 Thread Nitin Chandra
> 3. Perhaps I don't need to respond to the remark > about women having to > accept men as they are- it has been responded to. > But I just want to > make the point that it is the kind of remark that is > enough to make a > woman want to withdraw from the list. No woman is > obliged to accept any

Re: [ilugd] D00d3tt3z on ILUG-d - Solution suggestions

2005-08-22 Thread Abhijit Menon-Sen
At 2005-08-22 10:30:29 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > One thing which we can very clearly disregard is the possibility > that the list is not interested. Right. Enough people are interested in solving the problem that rehashing the argument will just give the disinclined more rope to waste e

Re: [ilugd] D00d3tt3z on ILUG-d?

2005-08-22 Thread hassath
On Mon, 2005-08-22 at 15:55, Sandip Bhattacharya wrote: > On Monday, 22 Aug 2005 2:32 pm, Raj Mathur wrote: > Actually Raj, now that I have re-read it, I agree with Hassath that it is > *potentially* offensive to women. While it might be perceived as humorous to > men, it appears condescending t

Re: [ilugd] D00d3tt3z on ILUG-d?

2005-08-22 Thread hassath
On Mon, 2005-08-22 at 16:10, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > But it always helps to have the "other" around. In fact the more others > the better it will get I hope > > ram > Thanks Ram. At any rate, I am not interested in exchanging insults and accusations.(It's not a woman's way, honestly ;-))

[ilugd] Fwd: Oryx Mailstore 0.97

2005-08-22 Thread Abhijit Menon-Sen
- Forwarded message from Abhijit Menon-Sen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - From: Abhijit Menon-Sen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Oryx Mailstore 0.97 Message-Id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Sun, 21 Aug 2005 20:48:35 +0200 (CEST) Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [ilugd] D00d3tt3z on ILUG-d - Solution suggestions

2005-08-22 Thread Viksit Gaur
Greetings, Hassath wrote: > Like i said, I brought up the issue cos > i thought the list > was actually interested in changes. If it isn't, > then sorry- I take my > hands off. One thing which we can very clearly disregard is the possibility that the list is not interested. I'm sure this discuss

Re: [ilugd] [LIH]Indexing the mailing lists

2005-08-22 Thread Mithun Bhattacharya
--- Kumar Appaiah <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Check this as well: > http://dir.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi And how would anyone know about that if Google doesnt show the pages from there ? Try searching for "mere paas ClusterKnoppix hai" on google which should show this page http

Re: [ilugd] Indexing the mailing lists

2005-08-22 Thread Sandip Bhattacharya
On Monday, 22 Aug 2005 9:41 pm, Mithun Bhattacharya wrote: > > My only concern is that there is no easy way to search the mailing > lists "effectively". Google provide a effective search tool sourceforge > doesnt. How about trying the gmane archive instead? - Sandip -- Sandip Bhattacharya *

Re: [ilugd] Indexing the mailing lists

2005-08-22 Thread Mithun Bhattacharya
--- Raj Mathur <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > They're indexed as far as I can make out: > http://www.google.com/search?q=linux-india-help+raj+mathur&sourceid=mozilla-search&start=0&start=0&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:unofficial Simple example http://sourceforge.net/maila

Re: [ilugd] Indexing the mailing lists

2005-08-22 Thread Raj Mathur
> "Mithun" == Mithun Bhattacharya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Mithun> Hi, I was wondering whether there is any consious Mithun> decission not to allow the mailing lists to be indexed by Mithun> the search engines. There has been quite a few emails I Mithun> would like to refer

[ilugd] Indexing the mailing lists

2005-08-22 Thread Mithun Bhattacharya
Hi, I was wondering whether there is any consious decission not to allow the mailing lists to be indexed by the search engines. There has been quite a few emails I would like to refer back to but I find them impossible to find on google atleast. I believe we have a pretty decent sized archive of

Re: [ilugd] How to create a new linux user on the fly

2005-08-22 Thread Mithun Bhattacharya
Couple of things that can be done are as follows : 1. You use suexec and take let AMS have fun with his bots. 2. You do a sudo and have the same problem as above. In both cases you just hope there are no bugs in your implementation which would result in your system being hacked or made useless lon

Re: [ilugd] D00d3tt3z on ILUG-d?

2005-08-22 Thread Abhijit Menon-Sen
At 2005-08-22 03:54:17 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Well I HAVE BEEN CATCALLED N WISTLED BY GROUP OF WOMEN UNKNOWN TO ME OH MY GOD! THOSE SHAMELESS HUSSIES! How *dare* they complain about oppression or exclusion?! > Women just need to jump in and get the language "barrier" resolved > duri

Re: [ilugd] D00d3tt3z on ILUG-d?

2005-08-22 Thread Abhijit Menon-Sen
Just one quibble in isolation: At 2005-08-22 15:33:13 +0530, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Sigh. See how difficult being politically correct all the time is? Sandeep, it's not about being politically correct. At all. Ever. Everyone thinks political correctness is ridiculous, including women, disa

Re: [ilugd] Ad Blockers for Linux

2005-08-22 Thread Saurabh Nanda
> If you are using Firefox then have a look at Adblock extenstion and load > a filterset from Filterset.G (http://www.pierceive.com/) Thanks... it worked! Nandz. -- http://nandz.blogspot.com ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://

Re: [ilugd] D00d3tt3z on ILUG-d?

2005-08-22 Thread Abhijit Menon-Sen
At 2005-08-22 14:32:26 +0530, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Perhaps people who have had prior experience with gender issues can > come forth and give inputs, or be blunt and specific when some line > is crossed. Blunt and specific. OK, I can do that. :-) > At the moment we're all sitting around ag

Re: [ilugd] D00d3tt3z on ILUG-d?

2005-08-22 Thread Raj Mathur
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 > "Ram" == ramnarayan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Ram> [snip] Ram> Again why somebody with experience - why make someone else Ram> responsible for the clean up - is this clean up going to be Ram> restricted to the list - thats o

Re: [ilugd] Linux LAN and BSNL Dataone

2005-08-22 Thread Shivkumar Jagannath
hi, the first thing that comes to mind is that if the bsnl adsl device is connected to the switch directly then it has to be a router. I believe bsnl is giving away huawei routers with some connections. if this is the case then you dont have to do anything other than setting both pcs to dhcp as the

Re: [ilugd] D00d3tt3z on ILUG-d?

2005-08-22 Thread hassath
On Mon, 2005-08-22 at 15:33, Sandip Bhattacharya wrote: > On Monday, 22 Aug 2005 1:19 pm, hassath wrote: > Hassath, let us discuss this without getting bitter. I understand the > frustation, and I do agree with AMS that atmosphere in the LUG meets is > something that will make women (or children

Re: [ilugd] D00d3tt3z on ILUG-d?

2005-08-22 Thread Nitin Chandra
--- "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > >Nitin Chandra wrote: > > > >--if i may add the fourth option > > > >where by women can accept men as they are and STILL > >come forward and make a difference rather than "be > in > >the stand and comment". > > > > Well thats the stand

Re: [ilugd] D00d3tt3z on ILUG-d?

2005-08-22 Thread Sandip Bhattacharya
On Monday, 22 Aug 2005 3:56 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Sandip this bitterness - which you see - is not being able to get an > important issue across. Check out the number of typical male mails As I said, I understand the reason behind the bitterness, but being bitter never helps in having a g

Re: [ilugd] D00d3tt3z on ILUG-d?

2005-08-22 Thread Abhijit Menon-Sen
At 2005-08-22 02:48:17 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > where by women can accept men as they are and STILL come forward > and make a difference rather than "be in the stand and comment". Which nicely removes all responsibility from you, and allows you to say, with a straight face, that the pro

Re: [ilugd] D00d3tt3z on ILUG-d?

2005-08-22 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Hassath > > >On the other hand, perhaps they need to hear more of the "other" >perspective... > >Regards, > > But it always helps to have the "other" around. In fact the more others the better it will get I hope ram >___ >ilugd mailinglist --

Re: [ilugd] D00d3tt3z on ILUG-d?

2005-08-22 Thread hassath
On Mon, 2005-08-22 at 15:40, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > > > Well thats the standard arguement " accept us as we are ". > So one is not expected to change for the better. > > > men are abusive so let them be - accept them as they are > men can harass women - accept that > men can use crude

Re: [ilugd] D00d3tt3z on ILUG-d?

2005-08-22 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sandip Bhattacharya wrote: >Hassath, let us discuss this without getting bitter. I understand the >frustation, and I do agree with AMS that atmosphere in the LUG meets is >something that will make women (or children or any elderly people) >uncomfortable. > > > Sandip this bitterness - which

Re: [ilugd] D00d3tt3z on ILUG-d?

2005-08-22 Thread Sandip Bhattacharya
On Monday, 22 Aug 2005 2:32 pm, Raj Mathur wrote: > > Fair enough. The attempt at humour was supposed to achieve the > reverse of what you are reading it as, but that doesn't make a > difference in this context. Actually Raj, now that I have re-read it, I agree with Hassath that it is *potential

Re: [ilugd] D00d3tt3z on ILUG-d?

2005-08-22 Thread Pankaj kaushal
hassath wrote: > On Mon, 2005-08-22 at 12:25, Pankaj kaushal wrote: > If there is a result-less discussion, maybe you could take more > responsibility for it- you too are part of this list. What a typically > privileged attitude -" Oh, nothing comes out of these discussions!" If > you saw it as bei

Re: [ilugd] D00d3tt3z on ILUG-d?

2005-08-22 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >Nitin Chandra wrote: > >--if i may add the fourth option > >where by women can accept men as they are and STILL >come forward and make a difference rather than "be in >the stand and comment". > Well thats the standard arguement " accept us as we are ". So one is not expected to change for th

Re: [ilugd] D00d3tt3z on ILUG-d?

2005-08-22 Thread Sandip Bhattacharya
On Monday, 22 Aug 2005 1:19 pm, hassath wrote: > On Mon, 2005-08-22 at 12:25, Pankaj kaushal wrote: > > I am neither discomforted by the discussion nor am I complacent, merely > > un-interested in discussions without a result. > > If there is a result-less discussion, maybe you could take more > re

Re: [ilugd] D00d3tt3z on ILUG-d?

2005-08-22 Thread Nitin Chandra
> > Fair enough. The attempt at humour was supposed to > achieve the > reverse of what you are reading it as, but that > doesn't make a > difference in this context. > > As I see it, we have two options open to us: > > - - Everyone introspect and figure out ways of doing > things right so >

Re: [ilugd] D00d3tt3z on ILUG-d?

2005-08-22 Thread Raj Mathur
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 > "Hassath" == hassath <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Hassath> [snip] Hassath> Thanks ams- i agree with all your points. I want to add Hassath> another one, which i have mentioned in my response to Hassath> Pankaj- the freedel blog

Re: [ilugd] license expire notice using cpanel

2005-08-22 Thread Raj Mathur
> "Pardeep" == Pardeep Garg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Pardeep> hi, I get a license expire notice when I try to login Pardeep> using cpanel on some remote server. Pardeep> This is usually corrected within minutes but some cases Pardeep> we may not be aware of the issue.

Re: [ilugd] D00d3tt3z on ILUG-d?

2005-08-22 Thread hassath
On Mon, 2005-08-22 at 12:07, Abhijit Menon-Sen wrote: > At 2005-08-19 13:32:33 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > the prevailing atmosphere??? > > Right. I can answer that question better now, mostly by having studied > the responses in this thread. Let's have a look, shall we? > > 1. Denia

[ilugd] license expire notice using cpanel

2005-08-22 Thread Pardeep Garg
hi, I get a license expire notice when I try to login using cpanel on some remote server. This is usually corrected within minutes but some cases we may not be aware of the issue. I don't know why it does this. sometimes it takes numerous tries to get in. Somebody help me about this matter?? Th

Re: [ilugd] D00d3tt3z on ILUG-d?

2005-08-22 Thread hassath
On Mon, 2005-08-22 at 12:25, Pankaj kaushal wrote: > > I am neither discomforted by the discussion nor am I complacent, merely > un-interested in discussions without a result. If there is a result-less discussion, maybe you could take more responsibility for it- you too are part of this list. Wh