Yet another ripple when changing to a tri-gear configuration: The landing
gear brackets and gear legs are bolted to the rear of the main spar. Now
need more room to clear the aileron push rods at the gear brackets. So,
rigged the push rods at the stick to be further aft. Everything looks
On the discussion thread there were several comments on proper mixture
control being needed for turbo installations. If your carb has a mixture
control, that is dirt simple to do with a mixture meter installation. More
info can be found at http://14point7.com/SLC-Pure-Plus.php
I will tell you
>After a nerve racked morning with a fly cutter I have determined that I am
>probably not going the be able to cut the instrument holes. Another option
>is a Greenlee punch but those are quite expensive unless someone has one to
>loan. With all that said I am thinking that I want to mark up a
Thanks for the suggestions, both on-line and off-line, for verifying the
fuel flow from a mechanical fuel pump. Gist of the responses was to provide
a temporary alternate source of fuel for the engine to run full power; catch
the pumped fuel from the regular system at the carb and measure the
I need to verify the fuel flow rate on my KR-2. The VW 2180 would burn
about 6 gallons per hour full throttle 3600 RPM, full rich, max climb rate
at 14 degrees AOA. FAA says there must be a 50 percent safety factor. So,
need to verify 9 gallon per hour fuel flow. I cannot just fly to see if
Wiring the instrument panel on my KR-2 is almost done. The panel is a Rand
factory unit with panel and forward deck as one single piece. The panel and
forward deck is screwed in place and
removable as need be for annual condition inspection and possible future
mods. The GPS antenna is mounted
..can anyone tells me the average counterweight of a plansbuilt
aileron balancearm for the new 16% airfoil wing? Thank's Herbert Fuerle
--
My aileron counter weights are 2.8 pounds each, centered on a 5.5-inch
moment arm measured from the forward side of
Anyone know a weight for the DIEHL gear? So far my gear still looks to be
coming in around 15 lbs each and I want to compare.
Thanks
Craig
www.kr2seafury.com
When I converted my plans-built KR-2 from retract conventional gear
including spring bar,
What is PVA?
In a message dated 11/23/2010 8:04:39 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,
l...@vandyke5.com writes:
Sorry PVA. I hate this iPhone sometimes
On Nov 23, 2010, at 8:57 PM, Lee Van Dyke wrote:
> If you know that you will have to sand V/E you can spray pcs on the
>
I believe that I read somewhere that there is a product that can be added to
the final layer of a Vinyl Ester Resin lay-up, that will make it easy to
sand. Does anyone know what it is and where I can get it?
Daniel R. Heath
++
Dan,
On a single curve
I just swapped out my nylon brake lines with steel automotive brake lines.
I still need to use some nylon line to allow for the movement of the
peddles. What fittings has everyone used to transition from the automotive
lines to the nylon lines? I couldn't find it in the archive.
Thanks,
I have started wiring on my KR-2 instrument panel. I have had some
experience on this sort of thing, but that was many years ago. Looking at
all the schematics for all the gadgets and switches with wires running every
which way was daunting to say the least. Truth be known, I found other
If you think your KR building might be somewhat rude and crude, check out
this video courtesy of EAA.
http://www.eaaonline.org/link.cfm?tid=6828979143=yes=155611968=11038971=1136038=ExAA=http://www.eaa.org/news/2010/2010-10-13_scratchbuilt.asp
Gotta give this guy an A for effort, but will it fly?
>Yeah, I was in the Canard group for years CSA etc...I had a Leze
>project
>Here's an old post by Canard Epoxy Guru 'Gary Hunter', works for Shell Oil
>in Epoxies>>>
>All the suppliers claim their "structural resins" are suitable for fuel
>containment. And, they are - IF - the builder knows
The project that I have has plywood covered stub wings but I can find no
mention of this in the plans. Was this ever considered an acceptable
option?
The answer to the above probably doesn't matter as I do not care for the
quality of construction so am going to remove and reconstruct the stub
>...I cannot share my work with the net as I have no idea how to set up a
>web
page as others have done. I am not computer savvy. However, I do frequent
others' sites and glean quite a bit there.
Pat at patru...@myfairpoint.net
***
Pat,
Try this site
Mark Langford wrote>
...With vinylester in a hundred degree hangar, things have to
happen in a big hurry! ...but consider that vinylester under these
conditions becomes completely
unworkable after 6-8 minutes, and hard as a rock in fifteen. I hate the
stuff, but it was designed to line
At 08:37 PM 10/3/2010, you wrote:
> Gonna also do a water leak test
>before I put the top on the tank
++
a water leak will only show the worst possible leaks. Gas will pass
through a pin hole that will hold water.
Larry Flesner
Mark,
Most transponders have a heat sink built into the rear of the case where the
high power transmitter is located. The mounting bracket will have a small
tube for attaching a small air duct to provide some cooling for the heat
sink. The transmitter may be happier with a little cooling air
If any one wants a copy of the Mixture Meter presentation from the 2010 KR
Gathering forums, send me an email off net and I will send you a copy.
Sid Wood
Tri-gear KR-2 N6242
Mechanicsville, MD, USA
smw...@md.metrocast.net
I used 6 inches nominal spacing, but changed some bolt locations so that the
bolt heads on the hinge halves would not hit each other during full aileron
down deflection. I used captive nut plates instead of stop nuts in the
aileron spars so that the hinge halves would be easily removable; I
Mark,
Perhaps using 2-inch SCAT, instead of 1.5-inch, would have less restriction
to get more air flow to the cooler.
Looks like you are dumping the oil cooler out flow into the engine
compartment high on the fire wall. This is a relatively high air pressure
location; the local air pressure at
The Mixture Meter presentation has been updated with new info from this past
year including AirVenture 10. I will also have a digital mixture meter
available for show & tell. The vendor estimates 100 to 500 hour life for
their sensor using leaded fuel.
As requested, I will bring a KR-2 main
According to the US Government web site for copyrights
http://www.copyright.gov/circs/circ1.pdf
"A work that was created (fixed in tangible form for the first
time) on or after January 1, 1978, is automatically protected
from the moment of its creation and is ordinarily given a
term enduring
Time is drawing near. Only 24 days till we all get to play in KR land.
Mark Jones (N886MJ)
++
Some of you guys get to play while the rest of us get to watch. Millimeter
by millimeter, day by day we're getting ever closer.
Sid Wood
Tri-gear KR-2 N6242
From: "Dan Heath"
Subject: KR> Tank, In the Tank?
I think I have discovered an issue that must be resolved. I won't know for
sure til I get the other wing opened up and try to fit the left tank into
it.
http://krbuilder.org/ConvertingToWingTanks/index.html
Daniel R. Heath
>I am in the taxi phase of training myself to fly a KR2 stretch taildragger.
>My taxi speeds are around 30 kts. No matter what position the stick is in
>(forward or aft) the tail remains on the ground. I remember seeing some
>folks at the fly-in turning their aircraft 180 degrees by full power
Country Inn & Suites, 859 228-0340, still have double bed rooms at the
$65.00 rate as negotiated by Dana Overall, but are booking up fast. Yes,
you must tell them you are reserving for the KR Gathering. Otherwise they
will tell you they have no rooms available.
Sid Wood
Tri-gear KR-2 N6242
smwood <smw...@md.metrocast.net> wrote:
I have further updates for the Mixture Meter forum from inputs obtained at
AirVenture 10 and additional users. Will tell all at the Gathering.
_
But what for those who will not be able t
>Do most builders glass the outside of the fuselage (wood bits) these
>days?
Cover the fuselage and wet lay-up areas with micro (epoxy with micro
balloons). Be sure to clean off all your finger prints from the plywood for
best adhesion. Clean the wax and finger prints from the fiberglass with
I have further updates for the Mixture Meter forum from inputs obtained at
AirVenture 10 and additional users. Will tell all at the Gathering.
See you there.
Sid Wood
Tri-gear KR-2 N6242
Mechanicsville, MD, USA
smw...@md.metrocast.net
Bernie Wunder and I will be at OSH all week arriving afternoon 7/24 by car.
Can provide ground transportation if the need arises. Sleeping in a tent in
Camp Schoeler.
The Mixture Meter forum times are Tuesday 7/27 at 10:00 AM Shelter 17 and
Thursday 7/29 08:30 AM at the former NASA building.
Whatever you do, do NOT tie the airframe directly to the trailer. Use tire
straps to hold the tires to the bed of the trailer. Let the tires and
spring gear cushion the airframe just the way they were designed to do. For
a approximately 700 pound aircraft use the lightest trailer you can
What is the preferred lubricant for aileron piano hinges and RR elevator and
rudder bolt hinges? How do you put it where it will do some good?
Sid Wood
Tri-gear KR-2 N6242
Mechanicsville, MD, USA
smw...@md.metrocast.net
I cleaned the spray gun and put it away for the last time: spray painting is
done; SANDING IS DONE!
Did I mention how much I hate sanding?
I am sure there will be bits and pieces for touch up, but that will be a
little brush or rattle can.
Now it's bolting on the big pieces and see if it will
On May 8, 2010, I posted about my Smooth Prime disaster. Since then I found
that heat will soften Smooth Prime and then it can be brushed off with two
or three swipes from a wire brush. I used a propane torch applied for a
half second, then brush while it's still hot. I suppose a heat gun
I got the same 55 watt halogen driving lamp in the compact package as the
1400 series at Wal-Mart for $15.99 a pair.
Sid Wood
Tri-gear Kr-2 N6242
Mechanicsville, MD, USA
smw...@md.metrocast.net
-
Hi Larry - looks like the R3255 landing light from
Using the engine crank shaft as a pivot could do some damage due to no oil
lube. So, that's a non-starter.
What I am doing now is laying a towel over the cockpit side just like the
car mechanics do to keep belt buckles and buttons from scratching the paint.
Then use a firm foam pillow to lean
Finishing a RR factory made cowl after making some mods and bumps and
fitting to the firewall, I sanded off the glaze on the outside gel-coat,
wiped all surfaces, inside and outside,with acetone and applied Smooth
Prime. The Smooth Prime adhered to the gel-coat and the new fiberglass as
Steve Bennett at Great Plains Aircraft advises: "I would rather you don't as
you won't have the oil film to protect the bearings from the crankshaft as
the weight will push the oil film out."
So, I won't do that. I'll just have to figure out some other way to work in
the interior of my KR-2
I just finished installing the plumbing for the fuel tank selector and boost
pump in the cockpit. Getting the 3/8-inch tubing flaired and bent just so
was definitely an education. The biggest problem was bending over the
cockpit sides; I wonder if I have done some permanent damage to my back.
A mixture meter will provide an immediate reading as to mixture being lean,
rich or just right at any RPM, throttle setting, carburetor type, injected,
ground or airborne, regardless of altitude, turbo boost or size engine. If
you have a 4-cycle piston engine burning any octane gasoline, you
Bill Clapp http://www.krnet.org/krs/wc/ used 4-inch PVC pipe, 2 each joined
together at both ends running from the WAF to the end of the wing and same
for the other side. Bill had removable wing tips for inspection. He had no
fuel gauge senders in the PVC pipes, but a 13-gallon header tank at
I have a spare wheel, tire and tube plus a pinch-cut tube that I could bring
to the gathering if anyone cares for a show and tell demo on wheel assembly.
Yeah, I cut a tube once upon a time.
Sid Wood
Tri-gear KR-2 N6242
Mechanicsville, MD, USA
smw...@md.metrocast.net
Dave,
Good on you. Put some air under the tires soonest!
Now comes the irreverent part. I got to ask: What are you thinking? Adding
a full six pack and digitals; plus NAV/COM & GPS for what purpose?
Sid Wood
Tri-gear KR-2 N6242
Mechanicsville, MD, USA
smw...@md.metrocast.net
Most times progress is millimeter by millimeter, a step at a time.
Today I completed the oil plumbing from my 2180 VW to the remote oil filter
and remote oil cooler and back to the engine.
The CompuFire ignition, Zenith 1821 carb and fuel system are installed.
Theoretically I could start the
Eric,
You could put baffles in front and behind the tire to brace the sides of the
wheel fairing. The baffles will also keep accumulation of dirt, mud, sand
and grass debris to a minimum in the front and rear of the fairing. Best of
all reasons: The baffles will limit air circulation around
My apologies to the list. I forgot to delete the other emails on my reply
yesterday.
Sid Wood
I had to drill more holes in my KR-2 fire wall. To get access I removed the
engine. Each of the five AN6 engine mount bolts had light corrosion in the
area where the bolt went through the lumber. The holes had epoxy cured
before the bolts were inserted. The engine had been mounted for 30
Here is my Dynon remote compass installation. It is mounted with brass
screws on a foam/fiberglass board three feet aft of the passenger seat.
http://websites.expercraft.com/sidwood/images/146261686145738d44c2c08.jpg
The compass has been bore sighted and leveled within 0.5 degrees.
Sid Wood
>Now a building question. I need to encapsulate the ash in epoxy, what is
the right mixture for thinning epoxy so I can brush it on? As you can tell,
it's been a while since I worked with wood:-)
Dana Overall
Dana,
What works
I used Sherwin Williams Acrylic Latex house paint, three coats primer, three
coats top coat semi-gloss, sanding between all coats and one coat clear
gloss and polish. The ultra white in the top coat has been tinted extra
white. It has a mirror shine, but the white just does not have any
Dan,
Is this the intake manifold that you are looking for?
http://websites.expercraft.com/sidwood/images/8620959324ab16f0f41a6f.jpg
Steve Bennett at Great Plains Aircraft Supply will have the intake manifold
for a VW installation. Go to http://www.greatplainsas.com/scdirectdrv.html
and scroll
Sal,
There is a plug on the left side of the VW 2180 engine into the oil pan.
This is intended for the oil temperature probe. Ground is done through the
pipe threads on the probe at the engine case. You can also get oil
temperature info by tapping into the oil line if you have a remote oil
Mark,
Thanks for the Heads Up. My info was way out of date.
Now it's good to go.
Sid Wood
Tri-gear KR-2 N6242
Mechanicsville, MD, USA
smw...@md.metrocast.net
--
Guys,
For those who do not know about this list, here it is.
Cooling air flow over/through the engine is indeed determined by the
pressure differential at the engine. However, in the apples-to-apples
comparison don't loose sight where that pressure differential comes from.
There is the ram air due to the hurricane force winds hitting the front of
the
Dan,
I made vinyl ester fuel tanks in the outer wing panels per the Dan Diehl
plans. There were leaks where the top skin joins the outer rib. I was able
to fix these by sucking on the fuel outlet with a vacuum cleaner while
applying VE flox to the leaking locations.
Are the mixture meters the problem or the probe? How long will the meters
last? and how long will the probes last?
Thanks
Larry H.
--
Larry,
The mixture meter is a solid-state panel-mounted unit and should work for
several thousand hours. The probe screws into a
In light of these concerns, and as host of the
Gathering, the individual awards this year will
be presented to the KR that scored the highest in
each individual area and if one KR takes home all
the awards, including "people's choice" and
"greatest distance flown", then so be it. THEY
WERE ALL
Hi Mike,
I'm responding to your post RE Wing construction. I built my
wings per plans, but if I had to do it over, I would pressure test the
wing fuel tanks prior to closing the underside of the wing. I had
some leaks that I had to patch the hard way... by cutting open the
wing and
List-Post: krnet@list.krnet.org
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2009 17:17:36 -0400
From: "Dan Heath"
Subject: KR> CHT an effective instrument for leaning?
I would say no, but it can be an indication that you need to make an
adjustment. Making the mixture more rich, will cool down the
Just got back from OSH. Camped out on the grass. Hot showers were nice,
but never used the new fangled flush toilets in my shower house. The
porta-potty habit is still in place; no big deal. What was a big deal was
to meet Willie all the way from South Africa. Willie said he sure wished he
At 06:37 PM 7/10/2009, you wrote:
>I am going to put my fuel in the wings. Larry Flesner says that I can get
>10 gallons in each wing, which will give me my 20 gallons. I am going to
>remove the header tank completely.
Daniel R. Heath
JC
Glue strips of lumber around the edges of the your panel in the same manner
as the sidewall of the fuselage boat. Backup the backside of the panel at
each instrument with thin aluminum angle set vertically with the instrument
bolts through the instrument, plywood and aluminum angle. Make
I am driving and camping in the EAA campgrounds, arriving Sunday and leaving
Friday morning. KR Forum is Monday 1:00 PM and Mixture Meter Forum is
Thursday 8:30 AM.
I can provide ground transportation for fliers.
Let's do dinner.
Sid Wood
Tri-gear KR-2 N6242
Mechanicsville, MD, USA
>23-year old Spray Lat will readily release from
>Plexiglas with application of heat (guess about 200 degrees F).
I was asked off-line what was the actual temperature for the hair dryer at
the high setting that I was using. Plexiglas will start to deform at around
300 degrees F.
Today I used
>...Off the top of my head, I can think that wood rot (such as can affect
>the
>Bellanca wing) would be something to watch long term. Corrosion of the
>WAF's and/or attachment bolts another. I've heard of separations at the
>firewall, but that must be a construction issue (wasn't built right to
> > Anybody flying today?? I'm am:-)
> > Dana Overall
I just came back from flying around the airport (2W6) in a rented C-150.
Definitely not a KR-2 but it does recharge my mental batteries for a little
while. Now it is back to drilling holes in my KR-2 firewall for fuel,
electrical, cables,
Ray,
When you do the dry fit and have the skin clamped in place exactly where it
is supposed to be, drill a small hole in the skin at the edge of the spar at
the inboard end and another at the outboard end of the spar. Put a rod
through each hole and clamp the rods securely to the spar.
I used the Expbus II for my electric control panel. Price now is $299.
This unit has toggle switches for Master, radio master and just about any
other electrical control for avionics/radios, fuel pumps, lights, back-up
battery, charging control, alternator cutout, automatic isolation and
I have made the nose gear conversion on my retract gear KR-2. Dan Diehl did
sell the nose gear, but he was in negotiation with Brian Kraute
http://www.engalt.com/ to sell the rights along with the wing skin design
and molds. Check with Dan at http://www.diehlaero.com/landing.htm
The Diehl
Dan
The Westach 2C5-56 O2 gauge reads from 0.2 volts to 0.8 volts. This gauge
will only work with a narrow-band O2 sensor operating with an electronic
Engine Control Unit as found on most production automobiles. The voltage
transition through the stochiometric 14.7 to 1 ratio is very fast;
I was asked for more pictures of my VW 2180 cooling duct arrangement, so
here are a few more:
http://websites.expercraft.com/sidwood/images/118551009549c7ba38161a2.jpg
http://websites.expercraft.com/sidwood/images/168308160949c7ba381ed06.jpg
Henry,
Here is what I am doing with ducted cooling. I am using the standard VW
cooling shrouds ($23/set at a VW performance shop) with a slight
modification to connect to my homebuilt fiberglass ducts. The standard VW
cooling shrouds will fit any displacement Beetle engine manufactured from
Here are two pictures of my newly fitted cowl. The 4-inch holes are the
main engine cooling by ducts to each bank. The ducts are ready, but not
installed when the picture was taken. One 2-inch hole is for carb air; the
other goes to the oil cooler and cabin heat. One 1-inch hole goes to the
Paul,
Here are two 4-inch fiberglass tubes I made using 4" PVC pipe as molds. I
did not use any squeeze technique, just wet lay-up with West System. The
tubes are just the right size for the SCAT ducting. These are now installed
in the front of the cowl as part of the engine cooling ducts.
Assuming you kept the same span and RAF48 airfoil, the hersey bar would add
about 20 percent to the wing area all out at the tips.
The initial rate of climb would go up about 20 percent; the top speed would
decrease about 20 percent; the roll rate would slow by about 20 percent.
The hersey bar
The big end of the gas strut (spring) has to be up so the oil will be
metered through a small internal orifice to get a smooth steady damped
movement. The seals do not have any tendency to dry out. If you put the
rod end upper-most, you will not get the damped action on extension, and
then
Peter,
I have the Diehl main gear and nose gear. I am using a 52 x 52 prop on a VW
2180, Diehl case and Great Plains engine mount. Firewall bolt pattern and
layout is per the RR plans. With the airframe level and 40 psi in the tires
I have 9-inches clearance from the prop tip to the concrete
Peter,
Take care not to spill any fuel on the styrofoam; gasoline will dissolve
styrofoam. Vinyl ester resin will also dissolve styrofoam. Epoxy is ok for
styrofoam. Urethane foam is compatible with gasoline.
If you are going to make composite fuel tanks, suggest you use urethane foam
and
>Anybody been making progress on a KR lately? ...
>Mark Langford, Huntsville, AL
Tonight I cut four more holes in the front of my lower cowl half: a 2" hole
for carb air, a 2" hole for oil cooler air, a 1" hole for gascolator
airblast and a 1" hole just because I could and it makes the hole
Here is an update on my KR-2 construction. Getting the engine cooling inlet
ducts built with inspiration and unabashed copying ideas from Mark Langford
and Bill Clapp as witnessed at The Gathering 2008 plus adaptation for my
2180 VW.
John,
However you cut into the old tanks and stick them back together, make sure
there are no pockets left to gather water other than at the quick drain.
You may want to change the dimensions of the tanks to limit fore and aft
movement of the fuel so you don't get CG changes with pitch changes.
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