[LegacyUG] RootsMagic and Legacy - a comparison

[Ian Thomas]

Possibly of interest, but one person's view of course - 

https://evalogue.life/roots-magic-vs-legacy-pros-cons/

(the first I have seen of this website, not sure of its purpose. Not my choice 
for a re-visit)
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[LegacyUG] Notes section (3 tabs) - can we have 2 more editing tools

[Ian Thomas]

I use the Notes (General, Research, Medical) a bit, and it has 4 editing tools 
on the left margin, as well as the ability to add special characters.

 (I have added the English pound symbol £ - UK etc currency for many many 
years. The various European currency symbols could be added easily, without 
changes to the current  Notes design)



This has probably been requested in the past?

I know it is not intended to be a mini-text-processor , but it would be very 
helpful to be able to capitalize (toggle: lower case, Initial Cap, ALL CAPS)  
in addition to the bold, italics, underline already provided.



Can I request this from Millennia / MyHeritage ? Is this done via the links on 
the Help About popup?



I.L. Thomas, Western Australia


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Re: [LegacyUG] Ancestor Report - setting Private off

[Ian Thomas]

Thanks Cathy, I will try that.

I was unaware of a new version of the program, so have downloaded v 9.0.0.456


I.L. Thomas, Western Australia

-Original Message-
From: LegacyUserGroup  On Behalf Of 
Cathy Pinner
Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2024 6:10 PM
To: Legacy User Group 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Ancestor Report - setting Private off

Ian,

I suggest you Reset the Report options and then choose your particular options 
again and see if that fixes it. I'm not seeing it with someone with Privacy 
Setting as Private and an AKA when I override the Privacy options to include 
Private individuals so I don't think it is a bug. I tested in 9.0.0.449. I 
haven't updated to the latest update .456 as I'm away from home and don't have 
as much internet access.

I trust you've found a place to keep cool in this heatwave in Perth.
Cathy

> Ian Thomas <mailto:il.tho...@outlook.com> Friday, 9 February 2024
> 11:06 AM
>
> For personal use, I want to set "Private" OFF in an Ancestor Report,
> but I have one which I can't affect.
>
> This is what I have -
>
> (made-up names substituted)
>
> /Children from this marriage were:/
>
> /6 i. Frederick Surname1 /
>
> /ii. Frederica Alice Surname2 was born on (DOB) in Town, State,
> Australia./
>
> */Another name for Private is Freda./*
>
> It is the last line that I want to suppress.
>
> Ancestry Report - in the Privacy Options for Report Options, I have
> "ticked" the following -
>
> include private individuals
>
> marriages
>
> child-parent relationships
>
> none of the other Private setting there seem appropriate, to make not
> private.
>
> Ideas?
>
> I.L. Thomas, Western Australia
>
>
>
> Jennifer Crockett <mailto:ferfi...@gmail.com> Monday, 29 January 2024
> 4:53 PM I would prefer to have a different expression for this leaving
> out the work "evidence". What happened to the simple "This couple did
> not marry."
>
> Can I tweak that anywhere?
>
> Jennifer Crockett
>
>


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[LegacyUG] Ancestor Report - setting Private off

[Ian Thomas]

For personal use, I want to set “Private” OFF in an Ancestor Report, but I have 
one which I can’t affect.

This is what I have –
(made-up names substituted)

Children from this marriage were:
6 i. Frederick Surname1
ii. Frederica Alice Surname2 was born on (DOB) in Town, State, Australia.
Another name for Private is Freda.

It is the last line that I want to suppress.

Ancestry Report - in the Privacy Options for Report Options, I have “ticked” 
the following -
include private individuals
marriages
child-parent relationships
none of the other Private setting there seem appropriate, to make not private.

Ideas?

I.L. Thomas, Western Australia

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[LegacyUG] ***SPAM*** RE: A question about FAG numbers

[Ian Thomas]

I have found only a small number of individuals  (people) where there are 2 FAG 
entries.

While the Legacy spot for entering a number (like a FamilySearch, or the others 
– none of which use)  is convenient, and allows a quick link to that FAG 
memorial, when there are “duplicates” so-called – ie, 2 or 3 FAG for the same 
person – I put the others into one of the Notes area(s) in Legacy.

If the Find a Grave ID were a small list (say, 3 only) rather than a single ID, 
it would not be more helpful for me.

As a side issue, I have found FAG memorials including photos, for individuals 
who died and were buried  elsewhere – with no mention that the Memorial is not 
in the burial or death place. In fact, for 3 instances, the birth and death 
places in the FAG memorial text asserts that they actually died in that place 
(Australian state #1), when it was actually at another (Australian state #2) 
which is more than 300km distant.

FAG is a useful tool and largely “maintained” by individuals rather than an 
organization, and the photographers often quite separate from those supplying 
the text and the names and links to FAG memorials of relatives. So, I just take 
it as it is, and do my own checking where possible.

I.L. Thomas, Western Australia

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Re: [LegacyUG] Multiple Lines of Descent Book - Title page error?

[Ian Thomas]

For the manner in which I selected the 4 separate descendents, I used this –
The MRINs were for those children of a couple Thomas Lewin and Peggy Stephens, 
so my Title page was set up as follows –

  Descendants of the children of
Thomas Lewin and Peggy Stephens ##

##   (this is the parent couple of those of their children with a marriage / a 
family)

I don’t think there is an appropriate field in the  Report Title Options  for 
marriage-type reports   - although it covers a good range of possibilities.


I.L. Thomas, Western Australia

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[LegacyUG] Multiple Lines of Descent Book - Title page error?

[Ian Thomas]

I have never tried this report until today, but I think this is an error that 
needs to be fixed.
I selected MRINs 502,114,503,5949  which I did by displaying the Family View of 
the parents of those who had married, which had a + beside the names in the 
Children panel below the parents marriage.
However, I entered in the report designer Options, these MRINS in the different 
order, 114,502,503, 5949
   (this is the lower-most entry, with this title above it “Create Report for 
the Descendants of the MRINs in this order:”)
I ignored the button to the left of that which is Change.  I want to sort out 
the current problem first.

Retaining all other default settings, I chose the screen / printer  Preview

The problem is that the Title page has the name of the last entered MRIN 
(highest number, 5949)  whereas the Table of Contents in the order that I 
chose, and the following pages are as I expected.
It is only the Title Page that is incorrect – and it might be more useful if 
the default field was something other than Descendants of  [FullName]

Suggestions ?
Thanks,
I.L. Thomas, Western Australia
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Re: [LegacyUG] Adoptions

[Ian Thomas]

Thanks to both – that was my thought as well, so I have made birth parents the 
first/preferred.


I.L. Thomas, Western Australia

From: LegacyUserGroup  On Behalf Of 
Roberta Schwalm
Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2023 5:42 AM
To: Legacy User Group 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Adoptions

I agree with Kathy since the bloodline is from the biological parents and not 
the adoptive parents.

Roberta Schwalm

On Tue, Nov 28, 2023 at 9:59 AM Ms Mary K. Lund via LegacyUserGroup 
mailto:legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com>> wrote:
For ancestral purposes, the biological parents should be the preferred parents.

Kathy Lund

On Tuesday, November 28, 2023 at 08:13:53 AM CST, Ian Thomas 
mailto:il.tho...@outlook.com>> wrote:
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[LegacyUG] Adoptions

[Ian Thomas]

I hope I can explain this OK - 
A question about adoptions: I have a woman, adopted shortly after birth by 
another couple. Having discovered that she was adopted after assuming her 
parentage shown at her death was her birth parentage, means that I added them 
as the "second" parents.
Is there a reason that her birth parents should be the FIRST parents, or OK as 
I have added  them?
Later, she married and had family - it is now 2+ generations later. 


I.L. Thomas, Western Australia


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Re: [LegacyUG] How to configure Family View ?

[Ian Thomas]

Thanks all - I will use both compromises - 3-column and descendant.

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From: LegacyUserGroup  On Behalf Of 
Colin McCullough
Sent: Monday, October 23, 2023 10:32 AM
To: Legacy User Group 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] How to configure Family View ?

Hi
In version 9 legacy in customise children 8.5 3 colums should give you 18 
children on view
Colin

From: LegacyUserGroup 
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 On Behalf Of Margaret Turner
Sent: Monday, October 23, 2023 12:42 PM
To: Legacy User Group 
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Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] How to configure Family View ?

For the number of children displayed,
 I use Custom, Option 8, 8.5 Child Columns on View, Best Fit Columns
This allows a 12 children family to be displayed in 3 columns.

On Mon, 23 Oct 2023 at 09:50, Ian Thomas 
mailto:il.tho...@outlook.com>> wrote:
I would like to capture some views of my data for a talk / display of family 
(various generations). Perhaps this would be easier with a report, but the 
colours in the usual user edit views are more attractive than the paper prints.

Is there a way to change the view in Legacy, to see more than about 5 or 6 
children in the Children pane?
I have this in grid list. By minimizing the Ribbon I can see 7 children. It 
might be helpful if the Parents pane could be "switched off", and the lower 
ones have more vertical space - but I can see that would create other problems 
(usability, programming).

There are other views, like Descendants, which are flexible enough to show a 
few generations if the families are small.

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[LegacyUG] How to configure Family View ?

[Ian Thomas]

I would like to capture some views of my data for a talk / display of family 
(various generations). Perhaps this would be easier with a report, but the 
colours in the usual user edit views are more attractive than the paper prints. 

Is there a way to change the view in Legacy, to see more than about 5 or 6 
children in the Children pane?
I have this in grid list. By minimizing the Ribbon I can see 7 children. It 
might be helpful if the Parents pane could be "switched off", and the lower 
ones have more vertical space - but I can see that would create other problems 
(usability, programming).

There are other views, like Descendants, which are flexible enough to show a 
few generations if the families are small.

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[LegacyUG] Adopted - a different question

[Ian Thomas]

I have added to Legacy a person who retained his original surname until his 
death at 23, and I have located within his  and his adoptive mother's records 
where to record this (other than in the Notes).
(actually, found that a bit hard to do, though the Help file indicates where, 
how)

But is there a more obvious place to show that, in the Family view? That is, to 
make it obvious when editing the database or just looking through?
Or is it necessary to create a Tag for that? 

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[LegacyUG] Reports - which would be appropriate?

[Ian Thomas]

I would appreciate advice about some Legacy reports (and perhaps charts - not 
sure).



I don't use the reports much, and lately only those with (Legacy Family Tree 
names)  Ancestor Book (#1) and Descendant Book (#2).



For a get-together of relatives on my father's side, I want to generate a small 
number of printed or PDF reports, though I can see that those (#1, #2) when 
more than about 4 generations they can be many pages.



Is there one that is suitable, that includes  ancestors of my father and also 
includes his father and all of his father's siblings, and then those ancestors 
from his grandfather back several more generations?

(I think that reflects the interests of the group that will be meeting in a few 
weeks).


Or would it be more appropriate to display those siblings (ie, those at the 
level of my grandfather) in a separate report or as a cart?

Ian T.
I.L. Thomas, Western Australia



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Re: [LegacyUG] Descendant Book Reports - are enhancements possible?

[Ian Thomas]

Cathy, thanks. That worked OK.



[lifespan] is the available term - if using Abt in the Born or Died, it will 
appear, so I get Descendants of Alexander McCully Snr (Abt 1795-1868) for those 
actual b. and d. which in my database are as   Abt 1795   and   26 May 1868



The extra parameter needs to be set for  "cover page" and for the "page headers"



Ian
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Re: [LegacyUG] Descendant Book Reports - are enhancements possible?

[Ian Thomas]

I would like to add a very simple enhancement to my Descendant Book Report - at 
the very top pages



The Heading Layout has a section "Title at the top of Page 1"  where the 
template is   Descendants of [FullName]



So, it generates  Descendants of David Thomas  - when within a Descendant view 
in Legacy interface, I have set a descendants of N generations for that 
individual.



It would be nice to be able to enhance this to include the parameters  [Birth 
Date]  and  [Death Date] after the selected top-level person's name.



Can I do that?



It would be nice to display  Descendants of David Thomas (Abt 1810 - 4 Jun 1887)

.. and to have it nicely centred and placed on the pages, by configuring the 
Heading Layout within the designer.







I.L. Thomas, Western Australia





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From: LegacyUserGroup 
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 On Behalf Of Ian Thomas

Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2023 9:40 PM

To: Legacy User Group 
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Subject: [LegacyUG] Descendant Book Reports - configuration is a bit 
convoluted, but excellent display



I have been creating some Descendant Book Reports and it appears to have some 
peculiarities, which I thought were minor problems.



Specifically, I created a report with 5 generations, and with its Name Index, 
2-column, it was 23 pages in length.

It has a Table of Contents, and that has the very helpful First Generation, 
Second Generation,   ..., Fifth Generation, and  Name Index  page numbers.

(these were on pages 1,3,9,16,20, and 22)



For some reason, I was not getting a page number on any of the 23 pages. The 
Page Setup |  Headings and Page Numbers tab  seems to be the place to set this 
to give a centred page number at the bottom.



Getting to the report settings for this is in itself a little confusing: the 
Report Options tab at the base of the configuration/settings needs to be 
selected, but it is the right margin area of that - the non-coloured, narrow 
section with a box   [ Page Headers, Footers... ]  which must be clicked.

(a bit hard to describe - needs some step-by-step pictures of the report 
settings)

Then, the Page Number Position section of that page requires attention to 
select Bottom Centre.



However, it is a very comprehensive method for displaying the Legacy data in a 
way that "ordinary people" can understand. I regard it as an excellent means to 
explain the connections of generations.



I.L. Thomas, Western Australia







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[LegacyUG] Descendant Book Reports - configuration is a bit convoluted, but excellent display

[Ian Thomas]

I have been creating some Descendant Book Reports and it appears to have some 
peculiarities, which I thought were minor problems.

Specifically, I created a report with 5 generations, and with its Name Index, 
2-column, it was 23 pages in length.
It has a Table of Contents, and that has the very helpful First Generation, 
Second Generation,   ..., Fifth Generation, and  Name Index  page numbers. 
(these were on pages 1,3,9,16,20, and 22)

For some reason, I was not getting a page number on any of the 23 pages. The 
Page Setup |  Headings and Page Numbers tab  seems to be the place to set this 
to give a centred page number at the bottom. 

Getting to the report settings for this is in itself a little confusing: the 
Report Options tab at the base of the configuration/settings needs to be 
selected, but it is the right margin area of that - the non-coloured, narrow 
section with a box   [ Page Headers, Footers... ]  which must be clicked. 
(a bit hard to describe - needs some step-by-step pictures of the report 
settings)
 
Then, the Page Number Position section of that page requires attention to 
select Bottom Centre.

However, it is a very comprehensive method for displaying the Legacy data in a 
way that "ordinary people" can understand. I regard it as an excellent means to 
explain the connections of generations. 

I.L. Thomas, Western Australia



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[LegacyUG] ***SPAM*** RE: ***SPAM*** Re: Question - best method to export a subset to new Legacy database

[Ian Thomas]

Thank you Cathy - very helpful.

I am familiar with Trees and use it frequently. And I always refresh. Some 
"trees" that I have are quite small (under 50), but they would not be exported 
of course.
Example - I was interested in Robbie Burns (1759-1796) as there were 
(apocryphal) suggestions that a part of our line was connected.
(I saw somewhere this assertion: "through his twelve children, Burns has 600 
living descendants as of 2012")

Will not split my database - I want to give parts to others. Should they update 
or change, it should not be important to me - or can be dealt with later.

The advanced tagging etc I will read and think about multiple person links. 
There may be a few.
Using privacy brackets is probably useful, too.

I'm a bit short on Media so that won't be a problem, and I do maintain the 
Media backup of my large database.
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I.L. Thomas, Western Australia

-Original Message-
From: LegacyUserGroup  On Behalf Of 
Cathy Pinner
Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2023 12:24 PM
To: Legacy User Group 
Subject: [LegacyUG] ***SPAM*** Re: Question - best method to export a subset to 
new Legacy database

Ian,

How familiar are you with Advanced Tagging in Legacy? Read up on what Entire 
Ancestor Tree tagging and Entire Descendant Tree tagging mean.
They are powerful but don't work usefully if there are multiple links between 
branches in your family.

How familiar are you with using View > Trees to tag groups of people?
Trees does not auto update so don't forget to click Refresh. Each tree is named 
by the person in it with the lowest RIN. You can use Tools > Renumber RINs so 
that island of people are named by someone you recognise or you can add a note 
in Privacy brackets to the name of person in that tree with the lowest RIN.
Here are other ways to Split a File.
<https://news.legacyfamilytree.com/legacy_news/2018/07/tuesdays-tip-splitting-a-file-advanced-.html>

I wouldn't split if you intend to keep updating both files. I'd only split in 
order to give part of my file to someone else.
If you need to collect together the media linked to the smaller file, use the 
Media backup to zip it together. This won't affect what is linked in the larger 
file.
You could then send that media to someone else or, if desired, unzip it to a 
completely different folder and tell Legacy that that is where the media for 
that file is. Options > Customise 6.2 is family file specific.
The Media Relinker can relink provided you don't change the actual filenames.

Cathy

> Ian Thomas <mailto:il.tho...@outlook.com>
> Thursday, 15 June 2023 12:07
>
> I would appreciate suggestions from those more expert than I am in
> using Legacy Family Tree program.
>
> I decided some time ago to put "everyone" into the same .FDB file. I
> find it easy to use the Tags and to search, and I am familiar with the
> various "families" that do not actually relate at all to my tree.
>
> But I want to export a fairly large number of individuals from one
> "family", to be used within a separate .FDB file.
>
> There may be a tutorial at Legacy FT website, but I have not explored
> that.
>
> My idea is that I tag them, starting from the (several) most-recent
> and working up (further in the past), thereby tagging and exporting
> those from biologically unrelated families further in the "horizontal"
> direction.
>
> I do NOT want to delete those individuals from my main (very large)
> Legacy database.
>
> For those that I want to export, there would not be many/any
> associated images or other entities (files) not within my .FDB database.
>
> Is this a reasonable method? And what are the explicit commands needed
> to get all (say) Tag 8 exported to a single .FDB file?
>
> --
>
> I.L. Thomas, Western Australia
>
> *From:*LegacyUserGroup  *On
> Behalf Of *Joan Goodman
> *Sent:* Wednesday, June 14, 2023 9:10 PM
> *To:* Legacy User Group 
> *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] Remove me from your mailing list
>
> On Wed, Jun 14, 2023 at 3:45 AM Charles Hunt  <mailto:charlesah...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>
>
> Joan Goodman <mailto:jamjo...@gmail.com>
> Wednesday, 14 June 2023 21:09
>
>
>
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[LegacyUG] Question - best method to export a subset to new Legacy database

[Ian Thomas]

I would appreciate suggestions from those more expert than I am in using Legacy 
Family Tree program.

I decided some time ago to put "everyone" into the same .FDB file. I find it 
easy to use the Tags and to search, and I am familiar with the various 
"families" that do not actually relate at all to my tree.

But I want to export a fairly large number of individuals from one "family", to 
be used within a separate .FDB file.

There may be a tutorial at Legacy FT website, but I have not explored that.

My idea is that I tag them, starting from the (several) most-recent and working 
up (further in the past), thereby tagging and exporting those from biologically 
unrelated families further in the "horizontal" direction.

I do NOT want to delete those individuals from my main (very large) Legacy 
database.

For those that I want to export, there would not be many/any associated images 
or other entities (files) not within my .FDB database.

Is this a reasonable method? And what are the explicit commands needed to get 
all (say) Tag 8 exported to a single .FDB file?


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Re: [LegacyUG] How do I strike-through or cross out a word?

[Ian Thomas]

Unless you really prefer to have the full text of a Will within the person’s 
Notes in Legacy, I prefer to have either an image-copy of a Will or a PDF 
(created first in Microsoft Word, then saved-as a PDF). This can be “attached” 
to the person-data in Legacy.

If it is necessary to have just the text (including strike-through, etc) then 
Word is adequate, and it will save PDF conveniently.
A “real will” will have signatures, etc – so a series of images is sometimes a 
useful way to preserve the at-the-time changes etc.

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Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2023 9:38 AM
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Subject: [LegacyUG] How do I strike-through or cross out a word?

Hello, I just can't remember how to go about striking through a word. I'm 
transcribing a will in the Notes section of the Will event which has a couple 
of crossed out words. I would like to include those in the will transcription. 
I've tried Help and looking at Text Formatting, but I can't seem to find. A 
Google search yielded some shortcuts, but they didn't seem to work either. I 
looked at the special ribbon characters and failed to spot anything for 
striking through a word. I look forward to your direction. Thanks.
Legacy 9 Deluxe, up to date
Windows 11
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[LegacyUG] Customise - crashing Legacy in several points

[Ian Thomas]

I think I need to manually change the file that stores the Customisations. 
In particular, the first I would like to change is 10. FONTS - they are too 
large for my good-definition screen (In Windows 10, I have it set at 
recommended, 2560x1440; fonts at 125%).

There are several of the Customisation groups (1. To 12.) that crash Legacy - I 
have latest updates to Windows 10, always; and the 9.0.0.414 Legacy Deluxe

Ian
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Sent: Tuesday, 3 January 2023 8:36 AM
To: Legacy User Group 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Moving Legacy to another disk drive

Thank you Brian - that is the information I need. 


I have had a long-term problem with Legacy crashing when I try to access some 
parts of the Customise (particularly, section 6 = Locations). So it might be 
useful for me to remove/delete the _AppData under Legacy, and start again. 
That is a separate problem - I hope it is fixed that way.


The move of Windows 10 Documents is unrelated to Legacy - it is on an SSD which 
is a bit small,  and something else than Downloads, Documents and Legacy is 
using space on that location and I have larger HDD to use for Docs, Legacy, 
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Re: [LegacyUG] Moving Legacy to another disk drive

[Ian Thomas]

Thank you Brian - that is the information I need. 


I have had a long-term problem with Legacy crashing when I try to access some 
parts of the Customise (particularly, section 6 = Locations). So it might be 
useful for me to remove/delete the _AppData under Legacy, and start again. 
That is a separate problem - I hope it is fixed that way.


The move of Windows 10 Documents is unrelated to Legacy - it is on an SSD which 
is a bit small,  and something else than Downloads, Documents and Legacy is 
using space on that location and I have larger HDD to use for Docs, Legacy, 
etc. 

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-Original Message-
From: LegacyUserGroup  On Behalf Of 
Brian Kelly
Sent: Tuesday, 3 January 2023 1:10 AM
To: legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Moving Legacy to another disk drive

Yes, You will need to copy the Legacy folders from their current location to 
the new drive/documents before you open Legacy after redirecting Windows to the 
new drive.

  When legacy starts if it does not see the _appData folder in the Windows 
Documents folder for the user it will create a new one using the default copies 
from the Legacy Install files in the Windows Program Files folders. This will 
effectively reset all your options to default values.

Brian Kelly

On 29-Dec-22 7:00 p.m., Ian Thomas wrote:
> This will be familiar to others I'm sure - and may have been discussed 
> earlier.
> 
> I need to change my Windows 10 location for Documents ("My Documents") 
> to a different hard disk drive, and I am unsure what affect this will 
> have on the Legacy Family Tree program and its associated folders and 
> files, where there are folders under the standard Documents folder location.
> 
> The procedure to change the Windows Documents folder from C: drive to 
> somewhere else, is straightforward and reliable.
> 
> (The new location will not be a cloud location such as Dropbox or 
> OneDrive)
> 
> If (example only) that folder is changed to hard drive F:\Documents\, 
> will the Legacy files and folders (including Media) require copying 
> and changes for all Legacy folders/files?
> 
> Thanks, in anticipation.
> 
> I.L. Thomas
> 
> Western Australia
> 
> 

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Re: [LegacyUG] Check/Repair "Wrong gender" question - Ignore

[Ian Thomas]

Best course for me, is to leave all the 3 checkboxes checked (ie, to be done) 
and for me to look at the resulting error.log each time.
The 8.14 setting is not really relevant

I.L. Thomas
Western Australia

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Subject: [LegacyUG] Check/Repair "Wrong gender" question

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[LegacyUG] Check/Repair "Wrong gender" question

[Ian Thomas]

Legacy 9.0.0.414

The check/repair gave me an error.log after which I have checked, and verified 
that the gender allocations should remain as they are.

What is needed to have the future runs of Check/Repair ignore these marriages / 
relationships?

There are 2 Marriage record(s) where the gender of the individual on the 
Husband side is not Male:
You can ignore the following messages if these are for same gender 
relationships.  You may want to go to each couple and verify that you have 
recorded things correctly and fix any problems if needed.
==
   See MRIN 1044, RIN 34.  Verify/correct the Gender of the Husband.
   See MRIN 2490, RIN 7793.  Verify/correct the Gender of the 
Husband.

Is it necessary or appropriate to change just the "Wording" - Options > 
Customize > View > 8.14

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[LegacyUG] Moving Legacy to another disk drive

[Ian Thomas]

This will be familiar to others I'm sure - and may have been discussed earlier.

I need to change my Windows 10 location for Documents ("My Documents") to a 
different hard disk drive, and I am unsure what affect this will have on the 
Legacy Family Tree program and its associated folders and files, where there 
are folders under the standard Documents folder location.

The procedure to change the Windows Documents folder from C: drive to somewhere 
else, is straightforward and reliable.
(The new location will not be a cloud location such as Dropbox or OneDrive)

If (example only) that folder is changed to hard drive F:\Documents\, will the 
Legacy files and folders (including Media) require copying and changes for all 
Legacy folders/files?

Thanks, in anticipation.
I.L. Thomas
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Re: [LegacyUG] Media - Picture File Extension

[Ian Thomas]

I should have added that a later version is available here -

https://www.xnview.com/en/xnconvert/#downloads



Info there -

XnConvert is a fast, powerful and free cross-platform batch image converter. It 
allows to automate editing of your photo collections: you can rotate, convert 
and compress your images, photos and pictures easily, and apply over 80 actions 
(like resize, crop, color adjustments, filter, ...). All common picture and 
graphics formats are supported (JPEG, TIFF, PNG, GIF, WebP, PSD, JPEG2000, 
JPEG-XL, OpenEXR, camera RAW, HEIC, PDF, DNG, CR2). You can save and re-use 
your presets for another batch image conversion.



For Everyone

XnConvert is Multi-platform, it is available for Windows, Mac, and Linux for 
both 32-bit and 64-bit editions.

XnConvert is Multilingual, it includes more than 20 different translations.

It offers powerful features in an easy to use interface providing convenient 
drag & drop functionality.



Unrivaled Compatibility

XnConvert is compatible with more than 500 formats

and Export to about 70 different file formats.


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Re: [LegacyUG] Media - Picture File Extension

[Ian Thomas]

The Apple format may be the same as many websites now use, invented by Google 
(WEBP)

Possibly of use to some, is a free program for Windows that will convert from 
many image file formats to others (eg, to JPG) - it is Xnconvert. 

XnConvert Version 1.83 - windows (Jan 16 2020) - Libformat version 7.37

Email: cont...@xnview.com
URL: http://www.xnconvert.com

I use it mainly for .webp  to .jpg or .png

It can convert one or many image files from one or numerous folders, and put 
the converted file into the original folder or into a common folder.
This is because it uses "drag and drop" - very easy to use, but does require a 
little work to select the formats and folder.

The simplest way from pictures on iPhone would be to copy all required from the 
iPhone, to a folder on Windows or to a USB that can be attached to your Windows 
machine - Legacy Family tree is on Windows.

Then use XnConvert



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[LegacyUG] Potential Problem Report

[Ian Thomas]

Potential Problems Report  (under Tools)
I have found a large number of records with a problem, some as obvious as 
"Birth Date after Death Date." = my typos, but many are "Birth Date after 
Mother is 50 years old." - which I believe have correct dates and persons 
(parents/children).

Is there a method within this report to have all records that generated an 
error, given a Tag or some other flag that allows a quick location of each 
problem? 


I.L. Thomas
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Re: [LegacyUG] Off-topic question (MH)

[Ian Thomas]

Ok, thanks. It's Sunday now, I will try tomorrow

[cid:image001.png@01D85D9A.AF258C90]


I.L. Thomas
Western Australia

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Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Off-topic question (MH)

Here is the contact info to contact.

My Heritage phone numbers.
https://www.myheritage.com/FP/contact-us.php<https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.myheritage.com%2FFP%2Fcontact-us.php=05%7C01%7C%7C7b8089a940ec4eef833d08da2b637333%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637870003389467561%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C=XojkvelHK9sBmvz4GH3suR%2FxcQDleO4ciB%2Bpn14K1KI%3D=0>

On Sun, May 1, 2022 at 1:17 AM Ian Thomas 
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How should I do this ahead of the June renewal date? Is it on the MH membership 
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I'm in Australia - it may make a difference.

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[LegacyUG] Off-topic question (MH)

[Ian Thomas]

I want to stop the automatic renewal of a subscription to MyHeritage. It was 
"discounted" but is certainly no better than the free-through-libraries use of 
Ancestry.

How should I do this ahead of the June renewal date? Is it on the MH membership 
website?

I'm in Australia - it may make a difference.

I.L. Thomas (Australia)

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[LegacyUG] Check/Repair ignore for same-sex marriage

[Ian Thomas]

Help, please.
Not that it causes any problems, but each time after a check/repair the same 
couple generates a text-file report, and I can't find how to set them / it to 
be ignored.
Is it done on the marriage information window? I have the checkbox 'ticked' for 
No evidence that this couple ever married. Each person is set private. I can't 
see how to ignore the same sex situation.

I.L. Thomas
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[LegacyUG] AKA

[Ian Thomas]

Trivia, but perhaps useful to others?
Something I should have checked / aware of – discovered only recently:
I have a person Thomas DOUGLAS. At some time in his life in the 1800s, it was 
recorded as DOUGLASS (double-S). That may have been the family-accepted 
spelling forever, I’m not sure.

But I had been entering the AKA in an incomplete way – eg, for this person, I 
may have recorded an AKA as Tom (no surname in the addition), or as DOUGLASS 
(no given names entered).
When displaying  Index view (I use Family and Index consistently)  I was 
surprised not to see his AKA name in full, in the Index view (Options set to 
display it).

So, I saw ~DOUGLASS,   without his given name.  Or Tom (no surname at all). Not 
so useful.


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[LegacyUG] WEBP - Another common image file extension

[Ian Thomas]

The .webp file extension is a file format developed by Google to reduce the 
size of images without having to sacrifice quality for storage space.
The .webp images are designed to make the web faster, with smaller, richer 
photos for developers to use.

It is increasingly likely that we will come across images / pictures in both 
Apple and Google formats.

I get a lot of those, and I use a free utility* to convert them to something 
other - .jpg or .png - which it does extremely quickly, placing the new files 
in the same folders (even if they come from a variety of folders).
There is probably a free converter for HEIC / HEIF format image files.

Irfanview keeps up-to-date with an ability to open and view, and to quickly 
convert most image files to something more common - such as .jpg or .png

* XnConvert Version 1.83 - windows (Jan 16 2020) - Libformat version 7.37
   Email: cont...@xnview.comURL: 
http://www.xnconvert.com



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Re: [LegacyUG] Trying to look at FMP hints

[Ian Thomas]

Yes, I left it at the ALL setting - there are worse things on the internet that 
FMP probably does not allow.
I don't get any hints from MyHeritage so I may need to remove all MH cookies in 
the same way.

I.L. Thomas
Western Australia 6100

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From: LegacyUserGroup  On Behalf Of 
Cathy Pinner
Sent: Sunday, 5 December 2021 11:36 AM
To: Legacy User Group 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Trying to look at FMP hints

Ian,
I haven't seen that screen. Cookies are used for all sorts of things. 
Some functions of a site won't work without them. I suggest you decide for 
yourself. No doubt each category comes with a blurb to explain.

Cathy

> Ian Thomas <mailto:il.tho...@outlook.com> Sunday, 5 December 2021 
> 11:27
>
> Cathy, having deleted cookies from my Edge browser (I had cookies for
> 3 different FMP sites, and there were different types of cookies in
> each) - I searched within Legacy and when a Hint page at FMP is 
> opened, FMP politely asks what cookies that I will allow. What would 
> you suggest?
>
> Aside: I often have several browser _pages_ (my browser calls them
> windows) open, each with multiple _tabs_. It may be necessary to check 
> the Settings > Cookies for ALL pages.
>
> I.L. Thomas
>
> Western Australia 6100
>
> You need to clear the findmypast cookies in your browser.
>
> If you don't know how to selectively delete cookies, you'll need to 
> delete all cookies - which means you'll need to sign in to all sites 
> again.
>
> In your browser settings in the Privacy section you should find where 
> you can view all the cookies. It normally has a search option and you 
> search for findmypast and then delete those cookies.
>
> Cathy
>
> > vbgar...@gmail.com <mailto:vbgar...@gmail.com>
> <mailto:vbgar...@gmail.com> Sunday, 5 December 2021
>
> > 06:14
>
> >
>
> > {"statusCode":400,"error":"Bad Request","message":"Invalid cookie
>
> > header"}
>
> >
>
> > This is the message I get. What do I need to do to fix this please ?
>
> >
>
> > Cheers from Valerie Garton nee Vaughan in sunny Sydney
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
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> This is the message I get. What do I need to do to fix this please ?
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> Cheers from Valerie Garton nee Vaughan in sunny Sydney
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Re: [LegacyUG] Trying to look at FMP hints

[Ian Thomas]

Cathy, having deleted cookies from my Edge browser (I had cookies for 3 
different FMP sites, and there were different types of cookies in each) - I 
searched within Legacy and when a Hint page at FMP is opened, FMP politely asks 
what cookies that I will allow. What would you suggest?



[cid:image001.png@01D7E9CB.05B0E170]



Aside: I often have several browser pages (my browser calls them windows) open, 
each with multiple tabs. It may be necessary to check the Settings > Cookies 
for ALL pages.



I.L. Thomas

Western Australia 6100



-Original Message-
From: LegacyUserGroup  On Behalf Of 
Cathy Pinner
Sent: Sunday, 5 December 2021 10:21 AM
To: Legacy User Group 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Trying to look at FMP hints



You need to clear the findmypast cookies in your browser.

If you don't know how to selectively delete cookies, you'll need to delete all 
cookies - which means you'll need to sign in to all sites again.

In your browser settings in the Privacy section you should find where you can 
view all the cookies. It normally has a search option and you search for 
findmypast and then delete those cookies.



Cathy



> vbgar...@gmail.com  
> Sunday, 5 December 2021

> 06:14

>

> {"statusCode":400,"error":"Bad Request","message":"Invalid cookie

> header"}

>

> This is the message I get. What do I need to do to fix this please ?

>

> Cheers from Valerie Garton nee Vaughan in sunny Sydney

>

>

>





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Re: [LegacyUG] Windows 11

[Ian Thomas]

It's not unexpected that Legacy FT performs the same under Windows 11 as with 
Windows 10.

I have always encouraged the upgrade to Windows 10 - unfortunately there are 
still many who are "stuck" at Windows 7.
Note, however, that Microsoft is not really pushing hard for upgrades to 
Windows 11 from Windows 10.

If you keep up-to-date with Settings > Update and Security, you may have a 
message that reports that your computer can run Windows 11. Mine is a Dell XPS 
computer with an i7-9700, so the computer hardware is 2+ years old.

There aren't any benefits for me in upgrading to 11 (it's free, of course), and 
Microsoft has this note -
Note: Some Windows 10 features aren't available in Windows 11. Certain apps and 
features may have additional requirements.

You can check your computer's situation here -
Windows 11 Specs and System Requirements | 
Microsoft

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Re: [LegacyUG] Hints - FindMyPast - "Invalid cookie header"

[Ian Thomas]

I use Microsoft Edge (Dev = developer version). 
It is based on the same code base as Chrome (Google's browser). 
Version 96.0.1032.0 (Official build) dev (64-bit)

I.L. Thomas
Victoria Park, Western Australia 6100

-Original Message-
From: LegacyUserGroup  On Behalf Of 
Phil Williams
Sent: Tuesday, 19 October 2021 1:31 PM
To: Legacy User Group 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Hints - FindMyPast - "Invalid cookie header"

Hi,

I am also getting this error, but only with the Firefox browser. Popping the 
link into Google Chrome opens the Hints page ok.

I have tried clearing the cache and disabling all add-ons to Firefox but 
nothing helps. I am using the latest versions of both Legacy and Firefox 
(78.15.0esr).

So, may I ask  I. L. Thomas, what browser are you using? Are any other users 
having this problem? Has anyone found a solution?

Cheers,

Phil.


Cathy Pinner wrote:
> Ian,
>
> FindMyPast hints are working though there is sometimes a problem if 
> you try to access them when they've expired. The dots aren't updated 
> as quickly on the Name List etc. Hints are best accessed from Family 
> View to avoid this.
> I'd clear your browser cache to see if that removes the error you're 
> getting if that's not the issue.
>
> There is a known problem with MyHeritage hints. They're currently not 
> working at all.
>
> FamilySearch hints only work if you have the FamilySearch ID entered 
> for the person concerned. FS hints to the FS tree and passes on those 
> hints.
>
> I find FMP hints helpful. I don't take much notice of others.
> The search isn't done after you click the orange ball but before. The 
> Hints window opens and you click the pane to access the hint results 
> in your browser.
>
> If you want to set up a search from Legacy use Search > Internet 
> Search for the relevant website. These cover far more than the 4 
> hinting sites, one of which is only useful for US researchers.
>
> Cathy
>
> Ian Thomas wrote:
>>
>> This may be too technical for this forum? Perhaps I should send it to 
>> Legacy developers?
>>
>> The only "orange dot" Hints that I have been getting for 6 to 15 
>> months  (v9, always with latest updates of course) have led me to a 
>> separate Hints Results window on which the coloured pane needs to be 
>> clicked to allow the default browser to Search. The only genealogy 
>> search is FindMyPast, despite having 3 of the 4 options enabled.
>>
>> Lately (weeks), my browser gives a java string that ends with
>>
>> Invalid cookie header
>>
>> I don't want to have to find the browser setting to fix that. I 
>> thought that type of error was 5 or more years old, long forgotten.
>>
>> What is recommended?
>>
>> I would really like some advice from Legacy developers/ owners - do 
>> they intend to FIX the Hints functionality? Or would it be better to 
>> just REMOVE it from the interface and we put up with other means of 
>> trying to match individuals with semi-public genealogy databases?
>>
>> I.L. Thomas
>>
>> Western Australia 6100
>>
>>
>

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[LegacyUG] Legacy Options > Customizes crashing

[Ian Thomas]

Not the first time, as it occurred when clearing and setting Hints 2-3 weeks 
ago.
Now, I can’t get to View. It totally crashes Legacy, and I need to restart it.
Also, can’t select 12. Other settings – same crash.

When this happened a couple of weeks ago, I had to locate the lbf file and 
delete it else Legacy would not open at all.

Not this time – Legacy will run, but I need a solution to the crash problems 
which I suspect will happen again if I try again to open View, to fix the Hints 
for FMP and whatever other Hints may still be available.


I.L. Thomas
Western Australia 6100

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[LegacyUG] Hints - FindMyPast - "Invalid cookie header"

[Ian Thomas]

This may be too technical for this forum? Perhaps I should send it to Legacy 
developers?

The only "orange dot" Hints that I have been getting for 6 to 15 months  (v9, 
always with latest updates of course) have led me to a  separate Hints Results 
window on which the coloured pane needs to be clicked to allow the default 
browser to Search. The only genealogy search is FindMyPast, despite having 3 of 
the 4 options enabled.

[cid:image001.png@01D7BC80.47F47D80]

Lately (weeks), my browser gives a java string that ends with

Invalid cookie header

I don't want to have to find the browser setting to fix that. I thought that 
type of error was 5 or more years old, long forgotten.

What is recommended?

I would really like some advice from Legacy developers/ owners - do they intend 
to FIX the Hints functionality? Or would it be better to just REMOVE it from 
the interface and we put up with other means of trying to match individuals 
with semi-public genealogy databases?

I.L. Thomas
Western Australia 6100

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Re: [LegacyUG] MyHeritage - Internet search within Legacy

[Ian Thomas]

Cathy
Yes, that is the way I approached it - using the Search-Internet interface in 
Legacy, for MyHeritage, and at the resulting page, selecting various 
Collections or other settings from there. But I opted not to amend the URL that 
it sends or even to explore Help for Legacy's codes used in tat function.  

I did actually like the Hints for MH within Legacy, even though it threw up a 
lot of nonsense - but that is just a reflection of the information that people 
put into their trees. 


I.L. Thomas
61 Gloucester St., Victoria Park, Western Australia 6100

-Original Message-
From: LegacyUserGroup  On Behalf Of 
Cathy Pinner
Sent: Tuesday, 6 July 2021 6:16 PM
To: Legacy User Group 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] MyHeritage - Internet search within Legacy

There's a problem with MyHeritage hints currently as far as I know.
You can write your own Internet Searches. You may be able to restrict it.
You do a search as you want it on the site and copy the Search URL and replace 
specifics with the available codes. It's explained in the Help I think. Whether 
this particular restriction can be done, I don't know. It looks like it could 
be done for a particular collection.
You certainly can't do it by adding site:au

Cathy

> Ian Thomas <mailto:il.tho...@outlook.com> Tuesday, 6 July 2021 13:08
>
> For some months, I haven't had any HINTS within Legacy _except for 
> FindMyPast_ - and wonder if it is possible to restrict the Search / 
> Search Internet for MyHeritage.com  by country (or Collection?).
>
> At this time, I would like to restrict to MyHeritage.com's *Australian
> collections* only
>
> I use the default settings, but cannot see that I can restrict to 
> country within the URL search string.
>
> Within a browser, I do remember appending *site:.au* but I doubt that 
> would be appropriate.
>
> Ideas?
>
> I.L. Thomas
>
> Western Australia 6100
>
>
>


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[LegacyUG] MyHeritage - Internet search within Legacy

[Ian Thomas]

For some months, I haven't had any HINTS within Legacy except for FindMyPast - 
and wonder if it is possible to restrict the Search / Search Internet for 
MyHeritage.com  by country (or Collection?).



At this time, I would like to restrict to MyHeritage.com's  Australian 
collections only



I use the default settings, but cannot see that I can restrict to country 
within the URL search string.

Within a browser, I do remember appending  site:.au but I doubt that would be 
appropriate.



Ideas?



I.L. Thomas

Western Australia 6100


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Re: [LegacyUG] Married couple - spouses on wrong side !!

[Ian Thomas]

That did it - thanks Bob. 
Now I do remember seeing the same question, and the answer,  some time ago. 

I.L. Thomas
Western Australia 6100

-Original Message-
From: LegacyUserGroup  On Behalf Of 
Bob Austen
Sent: Monday, 24 May 2021 10:57 AM
To: 'Legacy User Group' 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Married couple - spouses on wrong side !!

Did you try  Edit/Swap Husband and wife

-Original Message-
From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of Ian Thomas
Sent: Sunday, May 23, 2021 7:23 PM
To: Legacy User Group
Subject: [LegacyUG] Married couple - spouses on wrong side !!

I just discovered a married couple entry where I had female on the LHS marked 
as male, and her husband on the RHS marked as female.
Despite changing gender appropriately and doing check/repair, they remain on 
the wrong sides. 

They had 4 children so it would not be too much trouble to unlink everything 
and fix my problem (my bad entry and checking - not a fault of Legacy), but is 
there a simple way to fix this?
 
I.L. Thomas
Western Australia 6100

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[LegacyUG] Married couple - spouses on wrong side !!

[Ian Thomas]

I just discovered a married couple entry where I had female on the LHS marked 
as male, and her husband on the RHS marked as female.
Despite changing gender appropriately and doing check/repair, they remain on 
the wrong sides. 

They had 4 children so it would not be too much trouble to unlink everything 
and fix my problem (my bad entry and checking - not a fault of Legacy), but is 
there a simple way to fix this?
 
I.L. Thomas
Western Australia 6100

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Re: [LegacyUG] Hints - runtime error 380

[Ian Thomas]

Thank you Brian. 


I.L. Thomas
Western Australia

-Original Message-
From: LegacyUserGroup  On Behalf Of 
Brian Kelly
Sent: Thursday, 13 May 2021 4:51 AM
To: legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Hints - runtime error 380

I have tested your problem and confirmed this is an issue when entering an 
invalid date into the MyHeritage refresh box. The other fresh boxes will  not 
accept invalid numbers and will set themselves to 30 or to 120 if numbers are 
too low or too high. I have submitted a report via the bug tracking system so 
this can be fixed.

Brian Kelly

On 08-May-21 5:03 a.m., Ian Thomas wrote:
> Legacy 9 crash.
> 
> When setting the number of refresh days for MyHeritage hints (I had it 
> at 30, wanted to change to the maximum, 120 days) it is very easy to 
> have a mouse-slip and as I did, have an illegal number enter. It became 230.
> 
> This immediately throws a fatal error an exits from Legacy (latest v9 
> release). I attempted to enter a number rather than increase from 
> using the control, from 30 to 120. No opportunity is given to correct 
> an illegal value
> 
> It should be a very easy fix, to check but not cause a crash.
> 
> Ian Thomas
> 
> Victoria Park, Western Australia 6100
> 
> 

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Re: [LegacyUG] Hints - runtime error 380

[Ian Thomas]

Legacy 9 crash.
When setting the number of refresh days for MyHeritage hints (I had it at 30, 
wanted to change to the maximum, 120 days) it is very easy to have a mouse-slip 
and as I did, have an illegal number enter. It became 230.
This immediately throws a fatal error an exits from Legacy (latest v9 release). 
I attempted to enter a number rather than increase from using the control, from 
30 to 120. No opportunity is given to correct an illegal value
It should be a very easy fix, to check but not cause a crash.


Ian Thomas
Victoria Park, Western Australia 6100

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Re: [LegacyUG] Hints - only getting FMP

[Ian Thomas]

Cathy – I think the suggestion in your last para (MH search) is probably my 
first call; I’ll then do the others except Refresh.


I noticed after posting (yesterday) that Legacy was crashing -  consistently – 
when I clicked Customize,  even after doing all the backup/repair etc. It was 
strange as I never have problems with Legacy, and there is huge amount of disk 
space, memory, etc.
That crash problem has ceased – for no reason I can fathom. I have not 
restarted Windows ..   but I should do so, anyway.


Ian Thomas
61 Gloucester Street, Victoria Park, Western Australia 6100

From: LegacyUserGroup  On Behalf Of 
Cathy Pinner
Sent: Saturday, 8 May 2021 9:42 AM
To: Legacy User Group 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Hints - only getting FMP

Ian,
MyHeritage hints are very slow since they've been throttled.
Make sure the refresh period is at the maximum 120 days. I'd also resist the 
temptation to refresh hints. This wipes hints for that hint supplier but put's 
everyone for whom hints have been requested in the hint queue again.
It would be better to delete the Hints file ~hdb.hdb or double 
click the 1 in front of the first quick bookmark to open the Hints Monitor and 
click Start over there which erases the file for you.

Alternatively, if you need quick hints from MyHeritage, use the Internet Search 
for MyHeritage. Search > Search Internet  or Internet > Search Internet. They 
go to the same place and you can choose your site. Note you can add your own 
internet searches here as well. The Help from it explains how to do that.

Cathy

Jenny M Benson wrote:


On 07/05/2021 03:22, Ian Thomas wrote:


I'm not sure why, but the only hints (orange dots enclosing a number)
that I have are from FindMyPast - none from MyHeritage for several
months.
I have a lot of data and use the Legacy FT program often and for
lengthy periods, and I visit/view/update many of my people frequently.
Is there something that I need to do to wake up MH hinting?


Check that you have the relevant box checked at Options 8.13.  Also
that you have a reasonable amount of time specified for refreshing the
search.
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[LegacyUG] Hints - only getting FMP

[Ian Thomas]

I'm not sure why, but the only hints (orange dots enclosing a number) that I 
have are from FindMyPast - none from MyHeritage for several months.
I have a lot of data and use the Legacy FT program often and for lengthy 
periods, and I visit/view/update many of my people frequently.  
Is there something that I need to do to wake up MH hinting?

Ian Thomas
Victoria Park, Western Australia

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Re: [LegacyUG] I have a crash problem

[Ian Thomas]

Ian, I assume you are talking about the Legacy ribbon search ?

[cid:image002.jpg@01D7086C.37125F00]

I have not updated Legacy, and my (Deluxe) version is  9.0.0.368 - the main 
search that I use is the Search > Find - that is, the one at extreme left of 
the image I have pasted here (I know, naughty naughty).

Ian Thomas
Western Australia

From: LegacyUserGroup  On Behalf Of 
Ian Macaulay
Sent: Sunday, 21 February 2021 8:16 AM
To: Legacy User Group 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] I have a crash problem

Regular search from the menu bar.   Just the date nothing else.  create list 
caused by carriage return,
And its a new computer  So should have no baggage.

Ian

On Sat, Feb 20, 2021 at 3:26 PM Brian Kelly 
mailto:exma...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Ian,

Where are you entering the date (ie. what search tab are you using). I
tested the Detailed search tab and I had no problems with searching from
there. Search took only a few seconds to find a person using the find
any date equal to Mar 1832 (I have no records in my file with your 23
mar 1845 so I had to use a date I knew was in the file).

I also tested the Query by Example tab and it worked equally quickly.

Brian Kelly

On 20-Feb.-21 11:17 a.m., Ian Macaulay wrote:
> If I fire up legacy, then go to search, put in a date like 23 mar 1845
> I get a not responding message.  Then Windows says wait or close program.
> Waiting does no good and close kills the session.
>
> The second time round no problems.   .It "seems" to be the first search
> after a start.
>
> The system can run a check and repair with no problems reported.
>
> If I do not use date search, all works well until a date search.
>
> Anyone have a clue as to where to look for a solution?
>
> Ian
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Re: [LegacyUG] Latest Update Issue

[Ian Thomas]

Cathy – thanks, I have installed v368 now. I keep all prior versions of the 
installable – just in case I need to revert.

Possibly unavailability of printer – Windows does switch the printer to last 
used (I print as PDF from various docs, including web pages). But when my WiFi 
mono laser is offline, it notifies me and Windows caches the print stream. But 
I don’t know what Legacy’s start-up check for a printer is about (seems a silly 
thing to do).
In any case, only one of those freeze occasions involved the printer instance 
(I killed each with Task Manager, and looked).

I’ll see what happens. As I hinted, Legacy FT has not given me freeze or even 
slowness with my moderate sized database (few iamges, etc).

I.L. Thomas
83 Mackie Street, Victoria Park, Western Australia 6100

From: LegacyUserGroup  On Behalf Of 
Cathy Pinner
Sent: Wednesday, 28 October 2020 1:46 PM
To: Legacy User Group 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Latest Update Issue

Ian,
For your information - the current release of Legacy is 9.0.0.368

There were a couple of issues with builds 361 and 362 but these have been fixed 
in 368.

Legacy checks for a printer when Legacy starts. There can be problems in 
Windows 10 if you are allowing Windows 10 to control the default printer as it 
switches to the last printer used. If that isn't available when you start 
Legacy, you can have problems. There is a setting in the Win 10 settings that 
allows you to uncheck that option.

Cathy

Ian Thomas wrote:


I have a similar issue with this version (9.0.0.339,  Deluxe)  - I
_never_ have problems with Legacy, over the last 4 years. This may be
a one-off?

This has happened twice in the last couple of days – I closed Legacy
with Windows 10 Task Manager. This time, I noticed that there was a
sub-entry in Task Manager indicating a problem with a printer driver.
I was not trying to print anything from Legacy at the time. That was
not so in the previous incident, a day or two ago.

In both cases, I could not start Legacy again after killing the
instances with Task Manager – I had to restart Windows.

Windows 10 v 2020 – I am not using the latest “Feature Update, 20H2”

I.L. Thomas

83 Mackie Street, Victoria Park, Western Australia 6100

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Behalf Of *Margaret Gagliardi
*Sent:* Thursday, 22 October 2020 8:32 AM
*To:* Legacy User Group 
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*Subject:* [LegacyUG] Latest Update Issue

I just updated Legacy to the latest version and now when I try to
click on "Name List" it locks up Legacy and I have to shut down my PC
in order to clear it.  I have not been able to do anything else
because of this issue.  What do I do now?

Thanks Margaret

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Re: [LegacyUG] Latest Update Issue

[Ian Thomas]

I have a similar issue with this version (9.0.0.339,  Deluxe)  - I never have 
problems with Legacy, over the last 4 years. This may be a one-off?

This has happened twice in the last couple of days – I closed Legacy with 
Windows 10 Task Manager. This time, I noticed that there was a sub-entry in 
Task Manager indicating a problem with a printer driver. I was not trying to 
print anything from Legacy at the time. That was not so in the previous 
incident, a day or two ago.

In both cases, I could not start Legacy again after killing the instances with 
Task Manager – I had to restart Windows.
Windows 10 v 2020 – I am not using the latest “Feature Update, 20H2”


I.L. Thomas
83 Mackie Street, Victoria Park, Western Australia 6100

From: LegacyUserGroup  On Behalf Of 
Margaret Gagliardi
Sent: Thursday, 22 October 2020 8:32 AM
To: Legacy User Group 
Subject: [LegacyUG] Latest Update Issue

I just updated Legacy to the latest version and now when I try to click on 
"Name List" it locks up Legacy and I have to shut down my PC in order to clear 
it.  I have not been able to do anything else because of this issue.  What do I 
do now?
Thanks Margaret
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Re: [LegacyUG] General and research notes

[Ian Thomas]

Just a note to add to John’s advice re printing –
It can be useful to “Print to PDF” (if you have it configured), since it is 
then simple to just look at the single PDF file to see what is available, and 
print one or a few pages.

I do that with many “printable” things, not just in Legacy Family Tree.
Depending on what PDF software you have (usually, it will have to be licensed – 
not the free version), you may be able to edit / separate what are General, 
Research, Medical notes – though it might be a useful feature for Legacy to 
allow the 3 reports separate or combined.

I.L. Thomas
Victoria Park, Western Australia 6100

From: LegacyUserGroup  On Behalf Of 
John Faulks
Sent: Saturday, 1 August 2020 11:37 AM
To: Legacy User Group 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] General and research notes

Brian's suggestion will work (I just did it). Three things:

  *   searching for wildcard=* will find everything including blank fields (you 
entire database!). Use contains and use a single space character (presumes you 
have a space somewhere in the note)
  *   Setting up the print - I did not see a way to get inside a note (like you 
can do with events) so the whole note will be included 
(general/research/medical)
  *   I just did a preview and it took a long time to process. I only have 
about 4,000 names and only 1,100 have notes.
Good luck

John
Gmail account


On Fri, Jul 31, 2020 at 7:01 AM Brian Kelly 
mailto:exma...@gmail.com>> wrote:
I have  not tried this but you might be able to search using the
detailed search tab for anyone whose Research and General Notes are not
equal to blank to create a list of all those who have notes, then use
Options > Print on the results screen. When setting up the output select
only Research and General notes to be included in the output.

I do not think there is a report built-in that will only print Research
or General Notes.

Brian Kelly

On 31-Jul.-20 6:35 a.m., David C. DeWeaver wrote:
> In Legacy 9 is there a way to print out all your general and research notes ?
>
> David C. De Weaver, CMKBD
>

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Re: [LegacyUG] Newspapers - Australia, New Zealand

[Ian Thomas]

Cathy – I don’t download the image or PDF from either Trove or Papers Past – 
though I used to, about 4 years ago. My text files contain transcriptions that 
are usually for one individual or for others in the family.  I find the text 
files, apart from being very much smaller than image or PDF, are searchable on 
my computer and thereby help with research. But I need to incorporate them into 
Legacy, as well.

I.L. Thomas
Victoria Park, Western Australia


From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of Cathy Pinner
Sent: Wednesday, 3 June 2020 12:22 PM
To: Legacy User Group 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Newspapers - Australia, New Zealand

Ian,

I hope you make your OCR corrections on Trove and then copy and paste the OCR'd 
text to your Legacy event note etc.
What file are you talking about? I mostly don't download the file for the 
newspaper article or page. If I do, I use an image format and link it to the 
Event.
The URL, newspaper etc is in the Source attached to the Newspaper event or the 
relevant data field if it was a birth notice etc.

Cathy

Ian Thomas wrote:


This is probably a general question.
Those Australian and NZ papers are made available via "Trove" and "Papers Past".
Apart from confirming or obtaining dates, relationships, places etc from the 
articles, I always transcribe the full text into plain-text files, correcting 
bad OCR. And I always record with the transcribed text, the URL and the 
newspaper name/issue/date and subject.
I'm wondering if I should attach those files in Legacy, and what is the best 
way.
I don't research UK or USA newspapers.

I.L. Thomas
Victoria Park, Western Australia
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[LegacyUG] Newspapers - Australia, New Zealand

[Ian Thomas]

This is probably a general question. 
Those Australian and NZ papers are made available via "Trove" and "Papers Past".
Apart from confirming or obtaining dates, relationships, places etc from the 
articles, I always transcribe the full text into plain-text files, correcting 
bad OCR. And I always record with the transcribed text, the URL and the 
newspaper name/issue/date and subject.
I'm wondering if I should attach those files in Legacy, and what is the best 
way. 
I don't research UK or USA newspapers.

I.L. Thomas
Victoria Park, Western Australia

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[LegacyUG] Facebook privacy and security - is there a free Legacy webinar?

[Ian Thomas]

Some people here who are reluctant to use Facebook are concerned about their 
privacy. 
Perhaps a step-by-step video showing how to 'tie down" FB, nevertheless allow 
its effective use for Legacy FT genealogy, may encourage some to join. 
An advantage in using FB would be attaching a partial screen image explaining 
what one's Legacy problem is. It is sometimes hard to express a issue in words 
alone. 
  
I.L. Thomas
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Re: [LegacyUG] Sv.: Unsubscribe

[Ian Thomas]

Possibly the email to respond to - ie, the one sent to confirm that 
subscription is to cease - has gone into her junk mail? 

I.L. Thomas
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Re: [LegacyUG] Hashtags - how can I tag all children/descendants?

[Ian Thomas]

Thanks. I've done what was needed (giving a group of only 15, the hashtag 
"Unreliable - NZ").  That could have been done one by one, but knowing how to 
do it for the precise groupings that Legacy allows will be useful knowledge, 
for "next time". 

Help files: yes, my mistake about PDF. I did purchase the PDF file some time 
ago (4+ years?), and that the Microsoft Help format file is updated each new 
release of LFT is good to know. 

I.L. Thomas
Victoria Park, Western Australia


-Original Message-
From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of Cathy Pinner
Sent: Tuesday, 24 March 2020 9:52 AM
To: Legacy User Group 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Hashtags - how can I tag all children/descendants?

Ian,

You can tag using Advanced Tagging or you can search and tag or hashtag the 
search list.

The Legacy Help file is not a PDF so I think you are referring to the Legacy 
User Manual. That is not updated.

However the inbuilt Help file is constantly updated and is far more extensive 
than the User Manual. It may not be refreshed with every new build but it is 
often as holes are found and plugged and unclear entries are clarified.
The Help button is on every screen. On the main Views there is a small question 
mark icon to access. All these are context sensitive and are a far easier way 
into the Help than using the Help Index on the Help Ribbon tab. However the 
Index is good provided you use the Legacy terms for things and not what you've 
decided to call it.

Cathy

> Ian Thomas <mailto:il.tho...@outlook.com> Tuesday, 24 March 2020 6:48 
> AM
>
> I’ve forgotten how to easily add a hashtag to all of the children (or 
> even below that level, to all descendants) of a couple.
>
> Can someone please give me a short recipe for doing that?
>
> Is this explained in the (PDF) Help file? I’m not sure if that file is 
> updated/replaced with each new release of Legacy v9 Deluxe.
>
> I.L. Thomas
>
> Victoria Park, Western Australia
>
>
>


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[LegacyUG] Hashtags - how can I tag all children/descendants?

[Ian Thomas]

I’ve forgotten how to easily add a hashtag to all of the children (or even 
below that level, to all descendants) of a couple.
Can someone please give me a short recipe for doing that?

Is this explained in the (PDF) Help file? I’m not sure if that file is 
updated/replaced with each new release of Legacy v9 Deluxe.

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Re: [LegacyUG] Family dates have changed

[Ian Thomas]

A comment - perhaps not helpful.

Unfortunately, MyHeritage Trees have this as a commonplace - and may have 
multiple "copycats". I am always suspicious of "Smart Matches" that I receive 
as emails, and also of all of the MH Hints found by MH v9 - some are 
ridiculous.  

Multiple repeated wrong information should not be taken as a weight of 
evidence.  This extends way beyond "wrong dates". Typos are relatively easy to 
check. 

(Why do I incorporate such suspicious information in my Legacy Family Tree v9 
database? I use it as a "hint to be queried" - by looking for better 
information.)

I think the Legacy "Hints" system should have some refinements - more than 30% 
of the time, it is a joke - and this is  in its own domain. The  FindMyPast is 
at least based on collated records - that is, factual historical records . 
Is this an attempt to enrol more subscriptions? I believe accuracy beats 
numbers. 

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From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of Cathy Pinner
Sent: Monday, 16 March 2020 9:45 AM
To: Legacy User Group 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Family dates have changed

Ken,

For these errors I find it worthwhile to check the list and use the Mark as not 
a Problem option if all is well.
However careful I am, I do make typos in dates. Also later children may really 
be the child of an older daughter.
But I usually change the criteria to 25 rather than 20. The other criteria on 
age of mother should pick up mother's who are too old.

Cathy


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Re: [LegacyUG] Computer crashes when attempting backup to cloud

[Ian Thomas]

Of course it applies – it is applies Windows 7 as well.
From comments, I am assuming that you / others have not bothered to do the very 
simple check in Device Manager? I

I.L. Thomas
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From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of Susanne Brown
Sent: Thursday, 6 February 2020 1:47 AM
To: Legacy User Group 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Computer crashes when attempting backup to cloud

I should have added: I'm still using Windows 7 so not sure if Ian's suggestion 
would work for me.
Susanne

On Wed, Feb 5, 2020 at 9:36 AM Susanne Brown 
mailto:slowwalker1...@gmail.com>> wrote:
My thanks to all who have responded to my question, you've been very helpful.

Janette and Linda, while I'm sorry that you have experienced the same problem, 
it's also a relief to know that I'm not the only one. This issue also started 
for me after I downloaded a new virus protection program, Bitdefender. I did 
not have this problem with my previous virus protection program. I also use 
various backup methods including Dropbox, external drives, etc. Now I must 
decide whether to keep my current virus protection program and continue 
avoiding the Legacy cloud or to go back to my previous program.

In appreciation to all,
Susanne

On Wed, Feb 5, 2020 at 5:46 AM Bob Austen 
mailto:rgaus...@telus.net>> wrote:
Hi Henry,
What is the size of your file?

I have 590,000 individuals in my file and it is now about 1.38 GB.
I don’t have any issues with Cloud backup.
I am concerned about Access having a 2GB file limit. I hope that Legacy is 
considering splitting up the data file so I can keep my file intact.

Regards, Bob

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 On Behalf Of hpete...@cox.net
Sent: Tuesday, February 4, 2020 8:04 PM
To: 'Legacy User Group'
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Computer crashes when attempting backup to cloud

Janette, Linda, and others..

I don’t always use the Legacy cloud backup, but I wanted to try it again (it 
has been a while since I have tested it)
My file contains over 610,000 individuals and while it took a few minutes to 
complete, I did NOT receive any errors.

Nor did I get a “blue screen”. It has been my experience that some of what you 
have been told is not false it does noes begin to explain all the possible 
reasons for your error.
But I can say for a certain that the Legacy program alone is not the problem…. 
Some time else it happening. Like it was said earlier, more than likely that is 
a missing dll or some other file hase be removed
To enable the process to go smoothly.

My normal backup procedure normally includes redundant backups and multiple 
duplications on the different computers that I own.
I rely on all methods… but not the cloud, nor dropbox, hard disk, flash drives, 
dvds, redundant computers.
My 40+ years of doing this is just too valuable.

I wish you all the best in trying to determine the origin of your issue.

With kindest Regards
Henry

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Re: [LegacyUG] Computer crashes when attempting backup to cloud

[Ian Thomas]

That probably indicates that one or other “driver” program for your computer 
hardware needs to be updated.
You will be able to see if that is the problem, using an inbuilt-Windows 
utility, called Device Manager.
When Device Manager is run, if there is an error, a yellow exclamation mark 
against it  .  !
From your Windows 10 Start menu, choose Control Panel from the group called 
Windows System. Device Manager is one of the applications (programs) there.
If you do that and see the problem indication, let this list know – the next 
steps are releatively simple.

Of course, I am assuming that your computer has Windows 10 installed, and not 
Windows 7.

I.L. Thomas
Victoria Park, Western Australia


From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of Susanne Brown
Sent: Wednesday, 5 February 2020 3:45 AM
To: Legacy Users Group 
Subject: [LegacyUG] Computer crashes when attempting backup to cloud

When I attempt to backup to the Legacy cloud I get a black screen and then a 
blue screen that says in part: shut down to prevent damage to your computer; 
crash dump; DRIVER_IRQL_NOT-LESS-OR-EQUAL.

This happens only when attempting to backup to the Legacy cloud. I sure hope 
someone can provide a solution.

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Re: [LegacyUG] Saving Photos

[Ian Thomas]

I think it would be better to use the free program Irfanview to rotate your 
images. This will save your image file in its rotated aspect onto your computer 
disk. I suspect Photoshop Elements is just tweaking the EXIF tags in the 
images. 

There are "internal" signals within images (JPG, others) that tell a viewer how 
to rotate without altering the the on-disk file itself. This is what is meant 
by EXIF tags.

The EXIF (exchangeable image file format) standard specifies a set of tags that 
can be embedded in images (among other things). One of these tags specifies the 
orientation of the photo, and has 8 possible values which cover every possible 
combination of rotation and mirroring of an image. This enables you to take a 
picture with your camera sideways or upside-down (or even inside-out), and 
stand a reasonable chance of having it display properly on your computer.

I.L. Thomas
Victoria Park, Western Australia


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From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of Trevor Good
Sent: Tuesday, 4 February 2020 6:04 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Saving Photos

Hi All
I obtain a photo from a website which when I first see it, is lying on it's 
side, I save it to my Photo Program "Photoshop Elements". From where I correct 
the photo and save it to my Album "Genealogy Photos". I then go into Legacy and 
upload the photo to the name of the person who the photo relates to, but when 
it appears, it is on it's side again, I rotate the photo until it is correct 
and then "Save As". All is well until I "Close" the file containing the Photo 
when it falls over on it's side again. Please, what am I doing or not doing?

Regards
Trevor

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Re: [LegacyUG] Windows Defender

[Ian Thomas]

That is a precautionary feature of Windows / Windows Defender - which you have 
correctly responded to, Jack.

Windows Defender gives that response to any executable / installer that hasn't 
been "marked" to enable an "over-ride". You can make an alteration to Windows 
that always allows an installer to go ahead - but clicking to allow 
installation is seldom a worry or inconvenience to me, so I leave things as 
they are. 

Long ago (7 years+) I abandoned all the paid anti-malware products, and the 
free versions like AVG, because Windows for a long time has had more than 
adequate protection via its built-in products, especially since Windows 
8/8.1/10. 

But in my opinion, anyone persisting with Windows 7 is foolhardy. 

I.L. Thomas
Victoria Park, Western Australia


-Original Message-
From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of Jack Earnshaw
Sent: Thursday, 23 January 2020 7:18 AM
To: 'Legacy User Group' 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Announcement from the staff

Went to the Legacy web site and downloaded the update. Windows wouldn't run it 
as was blocked by Windows Defender. Managed to override this by "run anyway". 
Updated OK, but won't allow any access to the internet when running. Presumably 
there is a setting in Windows Defender that needs to be altered. Tried a couple 
of them but these haven't cured it.
Any ideas?
Jack

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From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of Jack Earnshaw
Sent: 22 January 2020 22:48
To: 'Legacy User Group' 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Announcement from the staff

I can't "check for updates" as the program says I am not connected to the 
internet. Same for Legacy News on the home page. I am connected and even 
restarted my machine in case there was a glitch. Is there a problem at the 
Legacy end?

Jack




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Re: [LegacyUG] Occupation Description

[Ian Thomas]

Wikipedia has an entry for Banjoists – also lists of famous banjo layers (and 
“celebrities” who also play/played the instrument).

I.L. Thomas
Victoria Park, Western Australia


From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of Howland Davis via LegacyUserGroup
Sent: Saturday, 30 November 2019 8:52 AM
To: legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com
Cc: Howland Davis 
Subject: [LegacyUG] Occupation Description

   I have an individual in my Legacy file that played banjo with a group in the 
1930s.  Do I put, as an event, Occupation with played banjo as the description? 
 Or have others used a different event/fact word for band 
members/musicians/etc.?
   Your thought would be greatly appreciated.

Howland Davis
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[LegacyUG] Death-burial-cremation

[Ian Thomas]

I have begun giving my records more accurate information against their “burial” 
line in Legacy.
Some Melbourne, Australia cemeteries give an annotation “Interment of C.R.” 
which I interpret as interment /burial of the cremated remains. It may be a 
common practice.
So I have been changing or making their record as Cremation, and also adding a 
General Note to indicate (ie, that there may actually be a grave or memorial of 
some type).  For some, it may be useful to visit or to search Billion Graves.

Is this the only way / best way?
I.L. Thomas
Victoria Park, Western Australia


From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of Chris Hill
Sent: Thursday, 28 November 2019 12:07 AM
To: Legacy User Group 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Using special alphabet characters in Legacy

Hi John

I quite agree, Legacy will be stuck with ANSI until they rewrite it. Given that 
there is also pressure, from its users, for a Mac version, and presumably a 
Linux version, they have a need to develop a new program and database that is 
multi-OS compatible. Hopefully, with the support from MyHeritage, this will 
happen, but MH also owns Family Tree Builder so it might put pressure on 
merging with it.

Regards

Chris

-- Original Message --
From: "John Cardinal" mailto:jfcardi...@gmail.com>>
To: "Legacy User Group" 
mailto:legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com>>
Sent: 27/11/2019 14:26:14
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Using special alphabet characters in Legacy

Chris,

During my 41-year career I've been a software developer, software architect, 
and CTO, including a five-year period where my team developed commercial 
applications in VB6. Since 1999 I've had a couple of side-project applications 
implemented in VB6. My focus now is .NET. As discussed on the site you 
mentioned and others, there are challenges to implementing Unicode-aware VB6 
applications. Other sites describe how to meet those challenges. A couple 
techniques we used were Unicode-aware component packages and TLBs for access to 
wide-character functions. Perhaps the technology infrastructure Legacy uses has 
an ANSI-only component baked-in and switching it out would require a 
rewrite-level effort. If so, they'd never rewrite in VB6 now so the effective 
result is "we can't support Unicode until we abandon VB6".

John
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Re: [LegacyUG] Using special alphabet characters in Legacy

[Ian Thomas]

Possibly the Windows Accessories group, then 2nd item in the list, Windows 
Character Map (for Windows 10, English language)

I.L. Thomas
Victoria Park, Western Australia


-Original Message-
From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of Otso Havu
Sent: Tuesday, 26 November 2019 8:00 AM
To: Legacy User Group 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Using special alphabet characters in Legacy

Sorry, I have a Finnish Win so help is only approximate now.

Start > roll to  Windows tools --- just after Windows Power shell --- look for 
a topless pyramide with special characters : select it :
select a character, pick and paste to Legacy

ti 26. marrask. 2019 klo 1.35 Cathy Pinner (genea...@gmail.com) kirjoitti:
>
> Jon,
>
> Not all characters can be used in Legacy. Those that can be used are 
> in the Character Map in the program. Make sure it is on at Options > 
> Customise 4.6. Then when you see this Character Ribbon, click the 
> square at the top of it to see all characters.
> I don't think the one you want is available.
>
> Cathy
>
>
> > Jon M 
> > Tuesday, 26 November 2019 5:06 AM
> > Can someone point me in the right direction on how to use special 
> > alphabet characters in Legacy? I have a large portion of individuals 
> > in the tree from Lithuania and Slovenia. Both alphabets have special 
> > characters.
> >
> > For example, I have a last name of Janaviče in Lithuanian, and I 
> > would like to be able to have the lower "C" hachek used in Legacy. 
> > Is this possible?
> >
> > My Windows 10 software is using English as the primary language. 
> > Note, I do not speak or write in either of these languages.
> >
> > Thank you!
> > Jon
> >
> >
> >
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Error 3035 during Check-Repair Build 9.0.0.318

[Ian Thomas]

Perhaps it is a “bad sector” on your computer’s hard disk? I would scan the 
disk using Windows – File Explorer, select the C: Drive (that is where most 
Legacy things are hosted), right click, select Properties (bottom item in the 
menu), Tools (tab), and click the Check button.
It is unlikely that the .fdb file would be larger than 2GB – but after in 
Legacy - backup, check/repair – I sometimes also select Compact file.

Ian
Albert Park, Victoria 3206 Australia

From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of Chris Hill
Sent: Monday, 7 October 2019 10:15 PM
To: Legacy User Group 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Error 3035 during Check-Repair Build 9.0.0.318

Hi

Legacy support site says We are uncertain as to the causes of "3035: System 
resource exceeded", which is not that useful.

However, there are known issues with Access, which Legacy uses for its 
database, relating to 'System resource exceeded'. One limitation is the size, 
physical, of the .fdb files, which must not exceed 2GB, but would probably 
error if somewhat smaller. I have also seen a fix which involved limiting the 
number of CPUs that Access is using, but I am not aware if that relates to the 
Legacy app or an imbedded part of the system. Part of the problem is that the 
causes are variable which makes it difficult to resolve.

Regards

Chris

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From: "Alan Thompson" 
mailto:alanthomp...@grapevine.com.au>>
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com
Sent: 07/10/2019 10:02:50
Subject: [LegacyUG] Error 3035 during Check-Repair Build 9.0.0.318

Has anyone else had problems with the Check-Repair routine using the latest 
release Legacy 9.0 Build 318.

I repeatedly get a “ Run Time Error ‘3035 System resource exceeded “message at 
Step 65 of 219 of Check-Repair and was wondering if anyone else was 
experiencing similar.

I tried uninstalling Legacy and re-installing (as recommended for this error 
message) and running check-repair on the same Family file but again received 
the same error message.

I also tried exporting my family file to a new Legacy database and running 
Check-Repair on that, again without success.

However, on a different computer (with less resources, ie CPU and Memory, but 
with the same version of Windows 10 with latest updates), I ran check-repair 
using Legacy Version 9.0.0.301 (ie the previous release) on the same family 
files (as above) and check-repair completed successfully in both cases.

Also restored a back-up of my family file taken immediately prior to updating 
to Build 9.0.0.318. Running check repair on this file using Version 9.0.0.318 
again failed at the same point, but successfully completed using 9.0.0.301.

My Family File details:

Number of Individuals: 143931
Number of Families: 44941
Master locations: 20761
Master Sources: 1245
Citations: 759965
Master events: 197212
used by individuals: 196591
used by marriages: 621
Master media items: 73894
times linked: 303918

I have reported this problem to support.

Alan Thompson
Canberra, Australia

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Re: [LegacyUG] Turning off RIN display in the Children list

[Ian Thomas]

Cathy, yes - that worked. 

In fact, after leaving 8.2 with Save, I could see the RIN in the Child section 
disappear (ie, without needing to change to another family etc).  
Since I don't ever want to see any of the options under that part of 8.2, I 
didn't think to un-check the  On Family View, Pedigree ... top line

Thanks, Ian 
Albert Park, Victoria 3206 Australia


-Original Message-
From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of Cathy Pinner
Sent: Wednesday, 2 October 2019 9:22 AM
To: Legacy User Group 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Turning off RIN display in the Children list

Ian,

I think I've found the problem.
When you go to Options > Customise 8.2 to turn off RINs, uncheck the RIN box 
AND uncheck On Family View, Pedigree ...
If you just uncheck the RIN box they still show in the Grid after the names 
Just unchecking RIN removes them from elsewhere on the Family View.

Please confirm whether that fixes it and then I'll see if it's in the Bug 
tracker and if not, enter it.

Cathy

> Ian Thomas <mailto:il.tho...@outlook.com> Tuesday, 1 October 2019 
> 10:54 AM
>
> Cathy
>
> The RIN persist in the child section (grid) below the marriage line – 
> above it, RIN doesn’t appear. And the first thing I did was to set the 
> options, then exit Legacy. Start it again, change to another “family”, 
> observe, exit, restart. I still have RIN in the Child section – only 7 
> children. I am not confusing child # with RIN.
>
>
> The Family Group is OK, sort of, if I turn off all the Notes and 
> Events. But I want 3 generations to show.
>
> However, whether this is an error in Legacy -  or I haven’t discovered 
> the settings to change - I have done what I need to even though square 
> bracketed display is superfluous.
>
> Ian Thomas
>
> Albert Park, Victoria 3206 Australia
>
> The setting that removes the RIN after the names of the central couple 
> and the parents also removes it from the children in the Child 
> scrolling grid. Or have you added a column for the RIN? Or are you 
> confusing the Child number with the RIN?
>
> If it isn't disappearing, try changing screen and back to force the 
> grid to redraw.
>
> Seems a lot of messing around if you are also changing font sizes and 
> you can't have many children in the family.
>
> Why not use the Family Group report?
>
> Cathy
>
>
>
> Cathy Pinner <mailto:genea...@gmail.com> Tuesday, 1 October 2019 9:39 
> AM The setting that removes the RIN after the names of the central 
> couple and the parents also removes it from the children in the Child 
> scrolling grid. Or have you added a column for the RIN? Or are you 
> confusing the Child number with the RIN?
> If it isn't disappearing, try changing screen and back to force the 
> grid to redraw.
> Seems a lot of messing around if you are also changing font sizes and 
> you can't have many children in the family.
> Why not use the Family Group report?
>
> Cathy
>
>
>
> Ian Thomas <mailto:il.tho...@outlook.com> Tuesday, 1 October 2019 9:10 
> AM
>
> I would like advice on how to do this, please.
>
> In order to get a simple overview of a family via a screen capture, I 
> am tweaking the usual screen display
>
> But I can’t find the setting to _turn off_ the display of the RIN 
> numbers in the Children list (in grid view)  below the usual Family 
> view. I have turned off the RIN display for husband/wife, but the 
> children still have it showing.
>
> I guess I should have saved my default settings before changing the 
> font size and stretch min/max, and the husband/wife RIN.
>
> Ian Thomas
>
> Albert Park, Victoria 3206 Australia
>
>
>


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Re: [LegacyUG] Ancestor and Descendant Interest - webinar?

[Ian Thomas]

Thanks Cathy. That all makes sense. I will try it, and see if it is useful for 
the way that I work. 

Ian 
Albert Park, Victoria 3206 Australia


-Original Message-
From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of Cathy Pinner
Sent: Wednesday, 2 October 2019 9:28 AM
To: Legacy User Group 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Ancestor and Descendant Interest - webinar?

I don't use the Ancestor and Descendant Interest but they are searchable so 
they're another way of keeping track of particular groups of people and knowing 
whether you want to do more research on them or not.
You decide whether 0 or 3 indicates most or least interest.
You may mark direct ancestors 3 to show you want to do as much research as 
possible on them but mark the children of your second cousin once removed at 0 
descendant interest as you don't want to extend your tree down from them.
You may (and I think should where possible) include the parents of spouses who 
marry in but mark them Ancestor Interest at 0 as you don't want to research 
their ancestors.
You could think of them as quick To-Dos or Research completed indicators
- or give them whatever meaning you like.
I repeat, they're searchable so you can find everyone with Ancestor Interest 
set at 2.

Cathy
> Ian Thomas <mailto:il.tho...@outlook.com> Wednesday, 2 October 2019 
> 5:18 AM
>
> I don’t understand (from the Help docs) why and how this setting 0 to
> 3 is useful / is used.
>
> Is there a Legacy webinar that I should look at?
>
> Ian Thomas
>
> Albert Park, Victoria 3206 Australia
>
>
>


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[LegacyUG] Ancestor and Descendant Interest - webinar?

[Ian Thomas]

I don’t understand (from the Help docs) why and how this setting 0 to 3 is 
useful / is used.
Is there a Legacy webinar that I should look at?

Ian Thomas
Albert Park, Victoria 3206 Australia

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Re: [LegacyUG] Turning off RIN display in the Children list

[Ian Thomas]

Cathy

The RIN persist in the child section (grid) below the marriage line – above it, 
RIN doesn’t appear. And the first thing I did was to set the options, then exit 
Legacy. Start it again, change to another “family”, observe, exit, restart. I 
still have RIN in the Child section – only 7 children. I am not confusing child 
# with RIN.

[cid:image001.png@01D57857.2665A0A0]

The Family Group is OK, sort of, if I turn off all the Notes and Events. But I 
want 3 generations to show.

However, whether this is an error in Legacy -  or I haven’t discovered the 
settings to change - I have done what I need to even though square bracketed 
display is superfluous.


Ian Thomas
Albert Park, Victoria 3206 Australia



-Original Message-
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Behalf Of Cathy Pinner
Sent: Tuesday, 1 October 2019 11:39 AM
To: Legacy User Group 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Turning off RIN display in the Children list



The setting that removes the RIN after the names of the central couple and the 
parents also removes it from the children in the Child scrolling grid. Or have 
you added a column for the RIN? Or are you confusing the Child number with the 
RIN?

If it isn't disappearing, try changing screen and back to force the grid to 
redraw.

Seems a lot of messing around if you are also changing font sizes and you can't 
have many children in the family.

Why not use the Family Group report?



Cathy
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[LegacyUG] Turning off RIN display in the Children list

[Ian Thomas]

I would like advice on how to do this, please.

In order to get a simple overview of a family via a screen capture, I am 
tweaking the usual screen display

But I can’t find the setting to turn off the display of the RIN numbers in the 
Children list (in grid view)  below the usual Family view. I have turned off 
the RIN display for husband/wife, but the children still have it showing.



I guess I should have saved my default settings before changing the font size 
and stretch min/max, and the husband/wife RIN.


Ian Thomas
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Re: [LegacyUG] Add a person, cannot find in Index view

[Ian Thomas]

OK, I now know. And it is an easy enough work-around. 
Thanks everyone. 

Regards, Ian 
Albert Park, Victoria 3206 Australia


-Original Message-
From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of Cathy Pinner
Sent: Thursday, 26 September 2019 12:58 AM
To: Legacy User Group 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Add a person, cannot find in Index view

Ian,

As Brian says, this is a known bug.
There is another bug in the Name List but the solution to both the bug in the 
Index updating and the bug of the Name list not opening on the right person is 
worked around by either choosing to show both AKAs and Married Names or to show 
neither.

Cathy

> Brian Kelly <mailto:exma...@gmail.com> Wednesday, 25 September 2019 
> 6:57 PM There is a known problem with the update of the Index view 
> when the option to include married names is on. If you have that 
> option turned on in your Index view try turning it off.
>
> Brian Kelly
>
>
>
> Ian Thomas <mailto:il.tho...@outlook.com> Wednesday, 25 September 2019 
> 6:20 PM
>
> Does anyone else see this problem with Legacy?
>
> I suspect that this is due to a disk caching problem on my system, but 
> it may also involve Legacy Family Tree. Maybe Legacy does not refresh 
> its (MS Access) indexes often enough?
>
> In my database, I have what I regard as a large file (13,500) though I 
> see that some people have nearly half a million!
>
> When I add a new person (either related to another, or using Add , as 
> a new, unrelated person) and then move to another in the database, I 
> sometimes want to return to the “added” person.
>
> My method is to switch from Family view to Index view, and type in the 
> Surname.
>
> But more often than not, the “newly-added” person is not visible / not 
> found.
>
> To find that person again, I need to either go to the maximum RIN, or 
> type in the person’s Given Name(s), (comma), Surname.
>
> This has been the norm for over 6 months. And I use Legacy often.
>
> I suspect it is a problem with data caching on the “hybrid” disk I 
> have as C: and which is host to Legacy program and data. The Seagate 
> disk is a SHDD (a standard magnetic HDD with a solid state cache). I 
> also see a similar problem with file appearance/updating in Windows 
> File Explorer (ie, an open folder view).
>
> (Windows 10, 64-bit, v1903 latest etc.)
>
> It is only a minor annoyance, and the work-around works OK for me.
>
> Ian Thomas
>
> Albert Park, Victoria 3206 Australia
>
>
>


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Re: [LegacyUG] Add a person, cannot find in Index view

[Ian Thomas]

Brian

In Index View, if I click the Options button top right, I have the Include 
Alternate Names checked.

[cid:image001.png@01D57446.0F16E8B0]

Is that the feature? I searched Help, and the Customise options, but could not 
find a suitable setting. I will have a look online at the Help Centre.



Ian

Albert Park, Victoria 3206 Australia





-Original Message-
From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of Brian Kelly
Sent: Wednesday, 25 September 2019 8:58 PM
To: legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Add a person, cannot find in Index view



There is a known problem with the update of the Index view when the option to 
include married names is on. If you have that option turned on in your Index 
view try turning it off.



Brian Kelly



On 25-Sep.-19 6:20 a.m., Ian Thomas wrote:

> Does anyone else see this problem with Legacy?

>

> I suspect that this is due to a disk caching problem on my system, but

> it may also involve Legacy Family Tree. Maybe Legacy does not refresh

> its (MS Access) indexes often enough?

>

> In my database, I have what I regard as a large file (13,500) though I

> see that some people have nearly half a million!

>

> When I add a new person (either related to another, or using Add , as

> a new, unrelated person) and then move to another in the database, I

> sometimes want to return to the “added” person.

>

> My method is to switch from Family view to Index view, and type in the

> Surname.

>

> But more often than not, the “newly-added” person is not visible / not

> found.

>

> To find that person again, I need to either go to the maximum RIN, or

> type in the person’s Given Name(s), (comma), Surname.

>

> This has been the norm for over 6 months. And I use Legacy often.

>

> I suspect it is a problem with data caching on the “hybrid” disk I

> have as C: and which is host to Legacy program and data. The Seagate

> disk is a SHDD (a standard magnetic HDD with a solid state cache). I

> also see a similar problem with file appearance/updating in Windows

> File Explorer (ie, an open folder view).

>

> (Windows 10, 64-bit, v1903 latest etc.)

>

> It is only a minor annoyance, and the work-around works OK for me.

>

> Ian Thomas

>

> Albert Park, Victoria 3206 Australia

>

>



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[LegacyUG] Add a person, cannot find in Index view

[Ian Thomas]

Does anyone else see this problem with Legacy?

I suspect that this is due to a disk caching problem on my system, but it may 
also involve Legacy Family Tree. Maybe Legacy does not refresh its (MS Access) 
indexes often enough?



In my database, I have what I regard as a large file (13,500) though I see that 
some people have nearly half a million!



When I add a new person (either related to another, or using Add , as a new, 
unrelated person) and then move to another in the database, I sometimes want to 
return to the “added” person.

My method is to switch from Family view to Index view, and type in the Surname.

But more often than not, the “newly-added” person is not visible / not found.

To find that person again, I need to either go to the maximum RIN, or type in 
the person’s Given Name(s), (comma), Surname.



This has been the norm for over 6 months. And I use Legacy often.
I suspect it is a problem with data caching on the “hybrid” disk I have as C: 
and which is host to Legacy program and data. The Seagate disk is a SHDD (a 
standard magnetic HDD with a solid state cache). I also see a similar problem 
with file appearance/updating in Windows File Explorer (ie, an open folder 
view).
(Windows 10, 64-bit, v1903 latest etc.)

It is only a minor annoyance, and the work-around works OK for me.

Ian Thomas
Albert Park, Victoria 3206 Australia



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Re: [LegacyUG] Coslough, Ireland

[Ian Thomas]

Thanks Pete Beatty and CE Wood - there is a bit to think about from what you 
have revealed to me. 

I remain ignorant of the historic changes to UK localities and their 
administration over time (Ireland, England, Scotland, Wales); because a lot of 
my ancestors lived in those places I should spend some time familiarizing 
myself (thanks, CE).

(It is indeed the descendants of Hibbert Newton (d. 1795) + Margaret Glascott, 
parents of Hibbert husband of Dorothea Gildea, where I discovered "Closlough, 
Ireland" - no county shown by my source.)

Regards, Ian 
Albert Park, Victoria 3206 Australia

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From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of pete.bea...@gmail.com
Sent: Thursday, 19 September 2019 9:40 AM
To: 'Legacy User Group' 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Coslough, Ireland

Ian,
I suspect you are referring to Coslough, County Mayo.  I have seen that 
combination referenced in several EARLY linages and documents.  I do not know 
if it is referring to a village, or general area.
Hope this helps a little.
Pete Beatty

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Ian Thomas
Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2019 6:29 PM
To: Legacy User Group 
Subject: [LegacyUG] Coslough, Ireland

I know this is off-topic, but maybe someone has a short answer to help me?

I have a person born 1798, died 1817, place given as Coslough, Ireland. Some of 
her relatives were in Wicklow.
Online searches find numerous lough's (= Scottish loch?) in Ireland. And a hint 
that the locality Coslough is in County Louth.
Confused! 

Ian
Albert Park, Victoria 3206 Australia
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[LegacyUG] Coslough, Ireland

[Ian Thomas]

I know this is off-topic, but maybe someone has a short answer to help me?

I have a person born 1798, died 1817, place given as Coslough, Ireland. Some of 
her relatives were in Wicklow.
Online searches find numerous lough's (= Scottish loch?) in Ireland. And a hint 
that the locality Coslough is in County Louth.
Confused! 

Ian 
Albert Park, Victoria 3206 Australia
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Re: [LegacyUG] kemp family history

[Ian Thomas]

Probably NOT the place to ask that question - this list is specifically for how 
to use the Legacy Family Tree genealogy  software.



However ...

There are no KEMP deaths in 1832 in the Victorian BDM - Victoria was not 
declared a separate Colony of England until 1861, so you would need to check 
the NSW (New South Wales) BDM.  Do you know William KEMP's parent's names?

The earliest KEMP death in Victorian BDM are 1846 and 1847.



Link to the NSW BDM index -

https://familyhistory.bdm.nsw.gov.au/lifelink/familyhistory/search<https://familyhistory.bdm.nsw.gov.au/lifelink/familyhistory/search?5>



There are several William KEMP entries there, earliest 1826 (infant). They have 
Registration numbers like

   409/1826 V1826409 10

... where the second number, V1826etc  indicates that it was in what becasme 
the Colony of Victoria.



I did not find any William KEMP deaths between 1825 and 1835, (other than the 
infant, died 1826) in the NSW BDM records.



Ian Thomas

Albert Park, Victoria 3206 Australia





-Original Message-
From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of R. KEMP
Sent: Friday, 13 September 2019 6:36 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] kemp family history



seeking information on William kemp who was born in England in 1876 an died in 
Victoria 1932





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[LegacyUG] DNA interpretation - for Legacy users in Melbourne, Australia

[Ian Thomas]

This is off the Legacy Family Tree software topic, but may be of interest to 
those who can attend (the University of Melbourne may video record, but I am 
not sure) –

Genetics and Geography: Using Genomic Data and Mathematical Models to Infer 
Population History and 
Demography<https://unimelb.us2.list-manage.com/track/click?u=67e9f3eee9787324ce472c2c2=9629474ba0=4d565ce641>
Friday 30 Aug 2019
6:00 pm - 7:00 pm
[https://gallery.mailchimp.com/67e9f3eee9787324ce472c2c2/images/96ea48f6-d645-4a6b-9217-b98063df9a21.jpg]
Behrend Memorial Lecture in Mathematics
Genetic differences between and within populations can tell us a lot about the 
historical movements of people around the world. In this lecture, Associate 
Professor Stephen Leslie will present his work on learning about human 
population history from DNA data. He will present some of the findings from the 
People of the British Isles project, relating to UK population history, and 
some more recent work following on from this study.

Presenter: Associate Professor Stephen Leslie

Regards, Ian Thomas
Albert Park, Victoria 3206 Australia

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Re: [LegacyUG] Hints - MyHeritage

[Ian Thomas]

I check Hints frequently  - and have all 4 types turned on (even though one of 
them requires a paid subscription to the company, and is no use to me).  Of 
course, I have the Deluxe version, 9, latest update always. 

Over the period that Cathy Pinner has detailed, I have used Legacy at the very 
least weekly, sometimes daily and for several hours. I "refresh" the Hints, 
etc. 

In that period of time, I have seen MyHeritage Hints only 3 times. As someone 
mentioned in the last couple of days, FindMyPast generates them (in spades). 

Server outages, etc:  why would anyone think that had anything to do with the 
problem with MyHeritage Hints? 

 Ian Thomas
Albert Park, Victoria 3206 Australia

-Original Message-
From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of Cathy Pinner
Sent: Tuesday, 23 July 2019 7:58 PM
To: Legacy User Group 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Hints - MyHeritage

The slowness of MyHeritage hints has nothing to do with the server problems 
although it started around the same time. MyHeritage tweaked the API for the 
hints which did something which is still being investigated. Programmers and 
testers have been working on Hinting and some aspects will be better in the 
next update but MH hints are still very slow.
FindMyPast hints are the quickest and I find the most useful. You may find them 
useful even if you don't have a subscription as the Hint itself tells you the 
database and you may have access to a similar one.

Cathy
> ambro...@telstra.com <mailto:ambro...@telstra.com> Tuesday, 23 July 
> 2019 5:10 PM
>
> Hints from MyHeritage to Legacy have not been working for me since the 
> server problems started more than 2 months ago - very disappointing!
> Any suggestions to fix this?
>
> MyHeritage hints worked perfectly from the start of Legacy 9 up to May 
> this year and hints from FamilySearch and FindmyPast have worked 
> perfectly all the time.
>
> The support response earlier this month was “We are still working on 
> this. Some users are reporting that hints are working great and some 
> are reporting the same problem you are. We are working on a new update 
> that we hope will address this. This update is in testing now.”
>
> Regards Ambrose
>
> *From:*LegacyUserGroup  *On 
> Behalf Of *Ian Thomas
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 23 July 2019 4:18 PM
> *To:* Legacy User Group 
> *Subject:* [LegacyUG] Hints - MyHeritage
>
> Occasionally I see MyHeritage hints – very occasionally.
>
> Just wondering why this is, or whether other people on this list  are 
> also seeing the same.
>
> Not sure if this link is persistent, but here is the latest Hint I 
> have seen –
>
> https://www.myheritage.com/matchingresult-b55206f65aa8968d4e36513bce25
> ecb1
>
> Regards, Ian
>
> Albert Park, Victoria 3206 Australia
>
>
>
> Ian Thomas <mailto:il.tho...@outlook.com> Tuesday, 23 July 2019 2:18 
> PM
>
> Occasionally I see MyHeritage hints – very occasionally.
>
> Just wondering why this is, or whether other people on this list  are 
> also seeing the same.
>
> Not sure if this link is persistent, but here is the latest Hint I 
> have seen –
>
> https://www.myheritage.com/matchingresult-b55206f65aa8968d4e36513bce25
> ecb1
>
> Regards, Ian
>
> Albert Park, Victoria 3206 Australia
>
>
>


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[LegacyUG] Hints - MyHeritage

[Ian Thomas]

Occasionally I see MyHeritage hints – very occasionally.
Just wondering why this is, or whether other people on this list  are also 
seeing the same.
Not sure if this link is persistent, but here is the latest Hint I have seen –
https://www.myheritage.com/matchingresult-b55206f65aa8968d4e36513bce25ecb1

Regards, Ian
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Re: [LegacyUG] [Off-Topic] Warrnambool Cemetery online date (Victoria, Australia)

[Ian Thomas]

Thanks, I hadn’t seen that one.
The Warrnambool & District Historical Society  (FB page) is also interesting – 
many historical photos.
https://www.facebook.com/WarrnamboolDistrictHistoricalSociety

Ian Thomas
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[LegacyUG] [Off-Topic] Warrnambool Cemetery online date (Victoria, Australia)

[Ian Thomas]

Perhaps of interest to some Legacy users who are researching Australian 
relatives?
I became aware only yesterday that Warrnambool Cemetery has had online burial 
data (no photographs) since 2018.  There are 28,000 graves and a useful 
downloadable  map
https://warrnamboolcemetery.com.au/

The site looks nice, is easy to read and search. But not great if you are a 
data collector.

Ian Thomas
Albert Park, Victoria 3206 Australia


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[LegacyUG] MyHeritage Hints have returned

[Ian Thomas]

This may be temporary, and may have appeared 8+ hours ago (time of this email 
is my first check of the email list today), but I clicked an orange ball and 
see not only FindMyPast but also MyHeritage.

Ian Thomas
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Re: [LegacyUG] Move a Story from one person to another

[Ian Thomas]

Answered.

On deleting (under Options) from the wrong person’s Story cache, Legacy 
helpfully presents this dialogue -

[cid:image002.jpg@01D51AC4.4679B070]


Choosing Remove Story from this person allows it to remain in the Story cache 
of others (in my case, just one).

Perhaps the Legacy HELP could document this hidden feature.

Ian Thomas
Albert Park, Victoria 3206 Australia

From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of Ian Thomas
Sent: Monday, 3 June 2019 10:20 PM
To: Legacy User Group 
Subject: [LegacyUG] Move a Story from one person to another

I mistakenly attached a Story to the mother, and have shared it with her 
daughter – which is where it should be.
Can I delete the Story from the mother – or will that remove it from both 
people?

It is easy enough to copy/paste and re-type the subject/date, etc – but I am 
interested if deleting from the “first” person removes it from everywhere.

Ian Thomas
Albert Park, Victoria 3206 Australia
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[LegacyUG] Move a Story from one person to another

[Ian Thomas]

I mistakenly attached a Story to the mother, and have shared it with her 
daughter – which is where it should be.
Can I delete the Story from the mother – or will that remove it from both 
people?

It is easy enough to copy/paste and re-type the subject/date, etc – but I am 
interested if deleting from the “first” person removes it from everywhere.

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Albert Park, Victoria 3206 Australia
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Re: [LegacyUG] Anyone know of a quick way to duplicate an individual?

[Ian Thomas]

Andrew
Don Quigley’s method works well, without dramas.  I have done exactly that – 
mainly when I have included a lot of text descriptions in the Notes, and don’t 
have media attachments/links or sources, stories, etc.

Those provisos have never been a problem, because the “duplication” scenario 
(for me) has been one of a lot of uncertainty about the individuals at that 
point.

However, as  noted by Leon Chapman (his method creates a new Legacy database, 
rather than just exporting to a GECOM file), make sure the Tag that you use has 
been “cleared” – not already in use for other individuals that are not those 
you want to ‘duplicate’).

However, you may need to consider this. The .GED file created  will not have 
links to or “contain” media files (images, etc and other files treated as 
“media” by Legacy).

Ian Thomas
Albert Park, Victoria 3206 Australia

From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of Andrew Robbie
Sent: Monday, 3 June 2019 8:45 AM
To: Legacy User Group 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Anyone know of a quick way to duplicate an individual?

Wasn't wanting an submerge, but a quick duplicate individual. Pieces of info 
belonged to each of the 2 real people.  So I wanted to then choose what to 
delete in the original and new person definitions.


Thanks, Andrew

On Jun 2, 2019 16:19, Ian Macaulay 
mailto:macau...@icmac.ca>> wrote:
It would also be nice to be able to click on a button and have the searched 
fields made into a new record.
I would think it a similar approach to duplication.
Ok Perhaps not   :-)

But Perhaps if You did a select, save, create new  (Cntr N)  and then Copy Cntr 
R until data runs out , The majority of Fields would be created in a new Rin.

Ian

Ian

On Sun, Jun 2, 2019 at 3:07 PM mailto:dwq...@gmail.com>> 
wrote:
This approach seems to work:

Tag the individual(s) you want to duplicate.
Export a gedcom with only the tagged individuals included.
Import the gedcom into your family file - the duplicates will have new RINs,
separate from the "originals."

Don Quigley
1207 Huntington Lane
Safety Harbor, FL 34695
(H) 727-330-7030
(M) 925-367-5609
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Andrew Robbie
Sent: Sunday, June 2, 2019 2:25 PM
To: 'Legacy User Group' 
mailto:legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com>>
Subject: [LegacyUG] Anyone know of a quick way to duplicate an individual?

Hi,

I've been doing a lot of intense updates recently trawling probate records.
One thing I'd love to be able to do quickly when having to split current
information stored against 1 person into 2 separate people (same name, just
a new RIN) is duplicate my current individual record...  I looked for any
such feature but could not find anything.  Any others know how to do this?

Thanks so much,

Andrew ROBBIE


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Re: [LegacyUG] Errors Backing Up

[Ian Thomas]

I believe that the Legacy cloud backup is broken, and it has been for a couple 
of weeks. Check back through the email messages, about the expected time for 
completion of the various fixes - possibly several days more?

Meanwhile, why don't you backup to your free  Microsoft OneDrive cloud?

Regards, Ian
Albert Park, Victoria 3206 Australia

From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of Cindy Custer
Sent: Saturday, 25 May 2019 5:17 AM
To: Legacy Users Group 
Subject: [LegacyUG] Errors Backing Up
Importance: High

When I try to do backups I receive the attached two Error Messages:

How can I correct this and accomplish a successful backu8p?


Cindy Custer
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Re: [LegacyUG] Hints - GenealogyBank

[Ian Thomas]

Thank you Brian
I neglected to say that my interest was those moving from Ireland and UK to 
USA. I had a look at the site before posting, and saw that everything I might 
want to see seemed to require a paid subscription. Does the Legacy Hints 
connection require that paid membership? (from your answer, I assume so)

Ian Thomas
Albert Park, Victoria 3206 Australia


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From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of Brian Kelly
Sent: Thursday, 23 May 2019 10:19 AM
To: legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Hints - GenealogyBank

GenealogyBank is primarily or exclusively United States records and it requires 
a subscription. Unless you have a lot of Americans in your file the site is not 
likely to be useful to your research.

This excerpt is from the About page for the site:
https://www.genealogybank.com/information/about-us

"GenealogyBank's 9,000+ historical newspapers include letters, speeches, 
opinion pieces, advertisements, hometown news, photographs, illustrations and 
more. These unique primary documents go beyond names and dates, providing 
first-hand accounts that simply aren't available from census or vital records 
alone. With GenealogyBank, you'll get a glimpse into the triumphs, troubles and 
everyday experiences of your American ancestors."

Brian Kelly

On 22-May-19 6:59 p.m., Ian Thomas wrote:
> I don't have many ancestors who moved from Ireland or UK, but it might be 
> helpful to activate the GenealogyBank "Hints" in Legacy Family Tree.
> 
> Is there a login required? Although I have set the fetch period back from 120 
> days to 30, I don't have any hints for persons with quite complete data.
> 
> Ian Thomas
> Albert Park, Victoria 3206 Australia
> 

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[LegacyUG] Hints - GenealogyBank

[Ian Thomas]

I don't have many ancestors who moved from Ireland or UK, but it might be 
helpful to activate the GenealogyBank "Hints" in Legacy Family Tree. 

Is there a login required? Although I have set the fetch period back from 120 
days to 30, I don't have any hints for persons with quite complete data.

Ian Thomas
Albert Park, Victoria 3206 Australia
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Re: [LegacyUG] dates

[Ian Thomas]

Taking up Cathy’s last point, I find that unlinking wrongly-entered or attached 
people is very useful; I often find that the unlinked person does fit in 
somewhere.

(my use of dates is a bit crude: either a precise date, or Abt.  I was unaware 
of the other allowed entry forms)

Ian Thomas
Albert Park, Victoria 3206 Australia

From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of Cathy Pinner
Sent: Sunday, 12 May 2019 1:10 PM
To: Legacy User Group ; Marina via 
LegacyUserGroup 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] dates

Marina

I don't know if you are trying to add a double date or a range.

If a range, enter 1665-1666 or better use either between 1665 and 1666 or from 
1665 to 1666.
If it's a double date you need the day and month as well and you need to set 
Options-Customise 5.4 and note it can only be set for the one change date.Then 
you enter your date in New Style and for dates from 1 Jan to 24 March, Legacy 
will add the double date.
Yes Legacy will give you a new total but possibly not until you have closed and 
re-opened Legacy. Also make sure you do File Maintenance - Check/Repair and 
sometimes Compact File.
Note the RINs are not changed and whether abandoned RINs are reused depends on 
your setting at Options-Customise 4.4 so don't confuse highest RIN with number 
of people.
I prefer to just unlink people I've added in error. That helps me not to go 
down that rabbit hole again and I haven't lost that work if I discover that 
they fit somewhere else.

Cathy

Marina via LegacyUserGroup wrote:


Hello

I read all your emails regularly but have not yet come across this
problem which I think  I am having. when i write on the profile a date
such as 1665/66 the programe immediately amends the date to 1666 . it
will accept 166?.
Also if I have had a flight of fancy and added someone who is not mine
when I delete this person does Legacy recalculate and re number my
grand total of tree members.
Thank you Marina

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Re: [LegacyUG] Cloud Backups --> use OneDrive instead

[Ian Thomas]

If your hardware is Apple (“MAC”), then the only way that you are using Legacy 
Family Tree is via Windows – isn’t that correct?

Your choices are to create a Microsoft Account (via Windows 10 or a prior 
version of Windows – note that Windows 7 is at end of support), and use 
Microsoft’s OneDrive as an “app” within Windows for your off-site backup. You 
will get 5GB of free storage.  Or, to use your (Apple) iCloud storage in 
similar fashion.

I believe that there are several  (“MAC”) users of Legacy who will be able to 
give you precise details about how to use either of these alternatives.

Regards, Ian
Albert Park, Victoria 3206 Australia

From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of Kathy Almquist
Sent: Friday, 10 May 2019 10:19 AM
To: Legacy User Group 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Cloud Backups --> use OneDrive instead

What about those who have a MAC - - suggestions?


On Wed, May 8, 2019 at 7:33 AM Michele Lewis 
mailto:mich...@legacyfamilytree.com>> wrote:
I back up to OneDrive (I have Office 365 so I have 2TB of storage). I do use 
the Legacy cloud backup though. This is how I go back and forth between my 
desktop and my laptop when I am traveling. It is quick and I don’t need to sync 
the media.

Michele Simmons Lewis, CG®
Legacy Educator
Legacy Family Tree/MyHeritage
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From: LegacyUserGroup 
mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com>>
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Sent: Wednesday, May 8, 2019 8:41 AM
To: Legacy User Group 
mailto:legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com>>
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Cloud Backups --> use OneDrive instead


For those using Microsoft Windows (all versions) - isn't everyone? - OneDrive 
gives you 5GB (approx. 5,000MB) of storage, for free. This has been so since 
2016  (previously, it was up to 15GB for free).



See https://onedrive.live.com/about/en-au/plans/   (Australia) - 
https://onedrive.live.com/about/en-us/plans/ (USA)



(the country-code is only relevant for the paid storage plans, for your country 
and currency).



I haven't had a problem with OneDrive in the past 8 years. It’s always there.



Ian Thomas

Albert Park, Victoria 3206 Australia



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From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of Brian Kelly
Sent: Wednesday, 8 May 2019 9:24 PM
To: Legacy User Group 
mailto:LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com>>
Subject: [LegacyUG] Cloud Backups



There has been much talk on the Facebook Users Group about failure of Cloud 
Backups in Legacy 9.0. The Legacy rep announced a few days ago that the server 
which provides this service failed and has to be replaced. She did not know how 
long the server would be down but she urged all users to continue making their 
local media backups in the interim.



Brian Kelly



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Re: [LegacyUG] Cloud Backups --> use OneDrive instead

[Ian Thomas]

For those using Microsoft Windows (all versions) - isn't everyone? - OneDrive 
gives you 5GB (approx. 5,000MB) of storage, for free. This has been so since 
2016  (previously, it was up to 15GB for free).



See https://onedrive.live.com/about/en-au/plans/   (Australia) - 
https://onedrive.live.com/about/en-us/plans/ (USA)



(the country-code is only relevant for the paid storage plans, for your country 
and currency).



I haven't had a problem with OneDrive in the past 8 years. It's always there.



Ian Thomas

Albert Park, Victoria 3206 Australia



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From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of Brian Kelly
Sent: Wednesday, 8 May 2019 9:24 PM
To: Legacy User Group 
Subject: [LegacyUG] Cloud Backups



There has been much talk on the Facebook Users Group about failure of Cloud 
Backups in Legacy 9.0. The Legacy rep announced a few days ago that the server 
which provides this service failed and has to be replaced. She did not know how 
long the server would be down but she urged all users to continue making their 
local media backups in the interim.



Brian Kelly



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[LegacyUG] MyHeritage (online + Desktop) vs Legacy Family Tree

[Ian Thomas]

Is there anywhere, a comparison of what MH capabilities are, compared with 
Legacy Family Tree (Deluxe) ?

(Current situation, not the some-time future possible integration of the 2 
now-distinct products. Not interested in conjecture of what may be. )

I have a free (250 person limit) MH - not the paid subscription which may have 
more capabilities than just more persons.

Ian Thomas
Albert Park, Victoria 3206 Australia

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Re: [LegacyUG] AKA - can the Legacy Hints use them effectively?

[Ian Thomas]

Pete
I would have the same preference as you – birth name, then add the AKA given 
names (Edward George) and the familiar Eddie.

Really, what I was asking was whether Legacy software when searching for 
“Hints”, in whichever targets I had selected for Hints, would use the AKA as 
well as the birth names.

If it does NOT, then I would keep 2 separate individuals (RIN would be 
distinct). Parents, siblings would be “common”.

Fortunately, this individual kept his surname the same.

Ian Thomas
Albert Park, Victoria 3206 Australia

From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of Pete
Sent: Wednesday, 20 March 2019 5:17 AM
To: 'Legacy User Group' 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] AKA - can the Legacy Hints use them effectively?

Ian,
I have seen some of the type entries:
Adam [Eddie, Edward]
Addam/Eddie/Edward
Adam
I prefer using the Birth name and then add the “called” names as an AKA.  I 
have several such occurnace and

Pete Beatty

From: LegacyUserGroup 
mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com>>
 On Behalf Of Chris Hill
Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2019 10:57 AM
To: Legacy User Group 
mailto:LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com>>
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] AKA - can the Legacy Hints use them effectively?

Hi

Your question is whether to two people are actually one person. If you believe 
that they are then you should merge them and document your decision.

It is not uncommon for people to have multiple names, quite often as a nickname 
or because the family decided to use a different name.
Regards

Chris

From my Motorola G6+

On Tue, 19 Mar 2019, 13:56 Ian Thomas, 
mailto:il.tho...@outlook.com>> wrote:
This is a question about how Legacy software uses an individual’s AKA entries, 
but I need to explain with a preface.

For a year or so I have wondered how to resolve this problem with an ancestor 
who changed his given names at some time between 1896 and 1900, when he moved 
from Melbourne to Cape Colony, South Africa.  Online (and still remaining) 
there are some family trees that list 2 members of the same family, with 
Identical birth date (ie, twins). That has been proven to be incorrect.  BDM 
registration information doesn’t support that and I don’t believe the records 
were lost.

He was born Adam James Douglass LANDELLS  in 1876. In 1882, on a younger 
brother’s birth certificate, his mother lists all children and he is “Eddie”, 
aged 6. There is an 1896 Police Gazette report of his deserting his 
illegitimate child – he is named and described: Edward Landells, correct age, 
same suburb.

In 1900, he marries in South Africa as Edward George LANDELLS - and there are 
numerous records of children born with father’s name Edward George LANDELLS. 
Documents in the possession of the next generations of those children give his 
exact date of birth as is known in Australia, for the Adam James Douglass  
LANDELLS above. And for this Edward George, various Australian connections are 
known and documented in South Africa and have been seen by still-living 
descendants.

Until now, I have found it convenient to retain 2 individuals within that part 
of the Landells family – they are (I believe) the same person, same birth date, 
different names  (and the Legacy Hints make use of those data and connections). 
 The “Adam” has no wife or children; the “Edward” has wife, children.

Question: should I retain the “Adam” individual (RIN 1303), and amalgamate all 
the “Edward” family connections and add an AKA – then delete the “Edward” 
individual (RIN 1304) ?

Ian Thomas
Albert Park, Victoria 3206 Australia

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[LegacyUG] AKA - can the Legacy Hints use them effectively?

[Ian Thomas]

This is a question about how Legacy software uses an individual's AKA entries, 
but I need to explain with a preface.

For a year or so I have wondered how to resolve this problem with an ancestor 
who changed his given names at some time between 1896 and 1900, when he moved 
from Melbourne to Cape Colony, South Africa.  Online (and still remaining) 
there are some family trees that list 2 members of the same family, with 
Identical birth date (ie, twins). That has been proven to be incorrect.  BDM 
registration information doesn't support that and I don't believe the records 
were lost.

He was born Adam James Douglass LANDELLS  in 1876. In 1882, on a younger 
brother's birth certificate, his mother lists all children and he is "Eddie", 
aged 6. There is an 1896 Police Gazette report of his deserting his 
illegitimate child - he is named and described: Edward Landells, correct age, 
same suburb.

In 1900, he marries in South Africa as Edward George LANDELLS - and there are 
numerous records of children born with father's name Edward George LANDELLS. 
Documents in the possession of the next generations of those children give his 
exact date of birth as is known in Australia, for the Adam James Douglass  
LANDELLS above. And for this Edward George, various Australian connections are 
known and documented in South Africa and have been seen by still-living 
descendants.

Until now, I have found it convenient to retain 2 individuals within that part 
of the Landells family - they are (I believe) the same person, same birth date, 
different names  (and the Legacy Hints make use of those data and connections). 
 The "Adam" has no wife or children; the "Edward" has wife, children.

Question: should I retain the "Adam" individual (RIN 1303), and amalgamate all 
the "Edward" family connections and add an AKA - then delete the "Edward" 
individual (RIN 1304) ?

Ian Thomas
Albert Park, Victoria 3206 Australia

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Re: [LegacyUG] GEDCOM Validator

[Ian Thomas]

John (Cardinal)
Thank you for the informative information. I seldom - almost never - have used 
.GED import or export. But I think I have read that improvements and a 
non-official later version has not been accepted/adopted (I will check 
Wikipedia, which gives good peer-reviewed information).

However, as I posted before, really there was only the ONE error and due to the 
code-page format in the text, for my use of GEDCOM Validator.

I am totally sceptical that my UK correspondent's problem when just exporting a 
.GED file to send to me caused him internal database problems, loss of 
information, etc.  I think something else "has gone wrong". He uses Family Tree 
Maker, but I am not yet aware of which version. Certainly it would be more 
recent than FTM 2006 which I have had for years (and installed and used for the 
first time ever last week).

Regarding the Validator: I think it may be a worthwhile tool to have. Tweaking 
the "Severity" is important after choosing the "Standards only"  Validation 
mode.
Also, within the Settings (top right, click the standard cog-wheel symbol) 
there are useful functions, including  Encoding repair.

John, perhaps you can explain what the Blob decoder does. My guess is that 
attached media is handled, but I don't know if the GEDCOM 5.5 standard caters 
for that.

Ian Thomas
Albert Park, Victoria 3206 Australia

From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of John Cardinal
Sent: Friday, 22 February 2019 3:25 AM
To: 'Legacy User Group' 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] GEDCOM Validator

Ian,

I have used GEDCOM Validator by Chronoplex. I forget exactly where I found it, 
but I did not get it via the Windows Store. I use it with Windows 7.


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[LegacyUG] GEDCOM Validator

[Ian Thomas]

There is a Windows Store app for PC called GEDCOM Validator, which I decided to 
install in order to help a researcher in the UK who thinks his software has 
stuffed up its database when exporting a .GED to send to me. Unlikely, I 
thought.

My UK comrade  isn't greatly "computer literate", and is using a version of 
Family Tree Maker - which he reckons caused his data loss.

Has anyone tried this - GEDOM Validator, by Chronoplex Software  - free, at 
Windows Store.  ??

I am using Windows 10 - it may require Windows 8 or higher (not stated), it was 
released July 2017.

Legacy Family Tree handled the .GED import well enough - it baulked at a  
couple of over-long person names, etc but the import to a new, blank Legacy 
file seems very good. And I have looked at the raw .GED with a text editor to 
fix the few obvious errors.

On the other hand, the Validator tells me it has 7631 compatibility issues with 
the 16,869 lines in the .GED file - using its "best Practice" mode; less 
(25821) when using just "Standards only" mode.  There is only ONE line marked 
as an ERROR and this is due to the codepage.


(Other errors  are flagged for the file not being GEDCOM 5.5 compliant, as  
warnings or ecommendations, and for using codepage Windows 1252. )

Ian Thomas
Albert Park, Victoria 3206 Australia

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Re: [LegacyUG] Search the internet - customize?

[Ian Thomas]

Brian - yes, the Legacy Help file gives very good instructions, with a couple 
of examples. I will do as you say and as the Help explains in detail. 

I haven't looked to see if it is possible, but do you know whether the end 
result is "transportable" - ie, is a configuration file created that could be 
used by others? 

Ian 
Albert Park, Victoria 3206 Australia


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Sent: Wednesday, 6 February 2019 1:54 AM
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Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Search the internet - customize?

I do not think there has been one on that subject. My approach is to:

1. Conduct a search on the site I am interested in.
2. The location bar in my browser then has the search string used by the site.
3. I copy and paste that string into notebook or any text editor.
4. I then replace the specifics of my search with the Legacy fields needed. 
[GivenNames], [Surname]. Look at some of the existing search strings for sites 
to see what Legacy uses for acceptable field names.

Brian Kelly

On 05-Feb.-19 9:06 a.m., Ian Thomas wrote:
> Is there a webinar that shows how to customize the Search the Internet 
> (menu items) on Legacy, so that I could add WikiTree?
> 
> I have a webinar subscription, have not yet searched through what is 
> available to see if that is a topic.
> 
> Ian Thomas
> Albert Park, Victoria 3206 Australia

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[LegacyUG] Search the internet - customize?

[Ian Thomas]

Is there a webinar that shows how to customize the Search the Internet (menu 
items) on Legacy, so that I could add WikiTree?
I have a webinar subscription, have not yet searched through what is available 
to see if that is a topic.

Ian Thomas
Albert Park, Victoria 3206 Australia

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[LegacyUG] Hashtag assignment - generates a temporary Unknown spouse

[Ian Thomas]

I have just begun using hashtags, and it should be useful. Currently, I am 
going to the Treelist,  refreshing the list,  and using the "Add a hashtag to 
the entire tree" - bottom option (button).
That seems to be a rapid and easily-understood way to assign hashtags 
accurately and quickly, and to keep the number to a minimum initially (until I 
know what works best for me).

When I do this, then select the tree, view in Descendant view, and perhaps 
scroll up to earlier ancestors in that tree (the earliest are seldom the "main 
identity" of the trees that have been determined), in some cases I see  a 
spouse (Unknown),  who may have a birth and/or death date - which seems to 
reflect those of a supposed spouse- in the row above.

This sounds complicated but is quite a simple operation. I suspect it is a 
harmless bug.

If I select the Unknown, my display reverts to my starting couple (forget the 
proper term), and the Unknown isn't seen again. If I select another individual 
(row), that individual is displayed and the Unknown artefact disappears.

I suspect it is something to do with indexing.

Another bug that has persisted for months, is that I find that one or more 
recently-added individuals cannot be located in the Index view until I enter 
their given names (or their surnames - it varies); after a few tries, I can 
find the individual.
Again, I think it is an related to indexing - not a problem, since it 
self-corrects after a time. I don't bother with any sort of File Maintenance 
until I'm ready to close Legacy Family Tree (9, Deluxe, latest update always) 
and do the usual backup.

Perhaps these are both related to disk caching - I do find that (outside of 
Legacy), File Explorer operations on my multi-disk system often require an F5 
refresh.

Ian Thomas
Albert Park, Victoria 3206 Australia

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Re: [LegacyUG] We need a Forum !!

[Ian Thomas]

While a forum is good for all the reasons stated, I think the restriction on 
pictures/images/attachments to email posts in the current list is a major 
limitation – purportedly because some people have limited 
bandwidth/quota/allowance with their internet contract.
I can’t believe that is a real problem with more than a handful of people.

Perhaps some of those (very few, I would think) do have Microsoft Outlook or 
other mail software, in which it is possible to configure so that attachments 
do NOT automatically download.
I think it is a ridiculous requested restriction – the occasional picture saves 
many words and misunderstandings.

Ian Thomas
Albert Park, Victoria 3206 Australia

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