Re: 64-bit LFS

2005-04-01 Thread Ken Moffat
On Thu, 31 Mar 2005, Bruce Dubbs wrote: I just got a new system for testing LFS builds. It is a Intel 3.2GHz P4 system with EM64T technology. It came with RH Enterprise 3.0 for AMD64 and EM64T preinstalled. 8-D I'm not really sure what the EM64T technology does, except Googling around

Re: 6.1 release branch

2005-04-02 Thread Ken Moffat
On Fri, 1 Apr 2005, Matthew Burgess wrote: Matthew Burgess wrote: Until then, you'll have to wait until I render the book and post a link to it :) OK, it's now rendered and available at http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/view/testing/. Regards, Matt. Curse you, Red Baron! I've

Re: 6.1 release branch

2005-04-02 Thread Ken Moffat
On Sat, 2 Apr 2005, Matthew Burgess wrote: Ken Moffat wrote: On Sat, 2 Apr 2005, Matthew Burgess wrote: So that's why I never saw it. I simply don't have the time or resources to do a full rebuild every time a package gets upgraded. Hmm, now I've seen your comment that you hadn't

Boring statistics [ was Re: 6.1 release branch ]

2005-04-06 Thread Ken Moffat
On Fri, 1 Apr 2005, Matthew Burgess wrote: PS: SBUs, disk usage and package tarball size reports would be most welcome, from anyone with the necessary scripts to record them. I think the upgraded packages should be pretty accurate, but I've not done a full system build with them yet, so I

Re: Planning for Cross-LFS/Multi-Architecture 7.x Release

2005-04-18 Thread Ken Moffat
On Mon, 18 Apr 2005, Randy McMurchy wrote: SSL/SSH != minimalistic I realize your suggestion Jim is a concession to a serious drawback in the new methodology, but just in the hour or so since you posted you message, there been talk of adding SSS, SSL, Lynx and GPM to core LFS (not all

Re: Copyright policy on patches

2005-05-08 Thread Ken Moffat
On Sun, 8 May 2005, Jeremy Huntwork wrote: Could someone throw me a cluebat here? I've found a patch that is needed for the sparc architecture and kbd-1.12 (Build fails with: kbdrate.c:167: error: structure has no member named `period') The patch I've found is placed under two licenses it

Re: Use of Variables in Cross-LFS

2005-05-13 Thread Ken Moffat
On Fri, 13 May 2005, Jeremy Huntwork wrote: Ken Moffat wrote: In my opinion, put it all in variables - the sparc page has '-m32' exposed to the reader without an explanation (although it might be explained on another page). Put it all in variables, and explain them at the beginning

Re: Use of Variables in Cross-LFS

2005-05-13 Thread Ken Moffat
On Fri, 13 May 2005, Jim Gifford wrote: Ken that's one of the things we are going to do after we get the builds working is go through every page and add more text or less text to give the reader a better understanding. We would welcome your input on this. I'll be happy to contribute, but

Re: Handling the change from the temp phase to the final target phase

2005-05-14 Thread Ken Moffat
On Sat, 14 May 2005, M.Canales.es wrote: El Sábado, 14 de Mayo de 2005 01:42, Archaic escribió: Lastly, IMHO the combo HOST != TARGET only is usefull in two cases: To build a full system (with X, servers, etc...) in a fast machine that will be later instaled in a slow machine. Or to build

Re: Handling the change from the temp phase to the final target phase

2005-05-14 Thread Ken Moffat
On Sat, 14 May 2005, M.Canales.es wrote: Don't miss the point of this thread: Is there realy some case where you must to build the packages up to reboot in one machine (the HOST) and then to copy that temp system to other machine (the TARGET) to build the final system? Ah, I misunderstood

Re: Move back to FSF binutils

2005-05-15 Thread Ken Moffat
On Sun, 15 May 2005, Matthew Burgess wrote: So, does anyone think we should still stick with HJL binutils, and if so, what are the compelling reasons for doing so? I will be less than surprised if the multi-architecture book has to use HJL for some architectures, in the past HJL has always

Re: Use of Entities in the cross-lfs book

2005-06-21 Thread Ken Moffat
On Tue, 21 Jun 2005, Jim Gifford wrote: The one thing I'm not sure on is if the SBU's will be the same on the different architectures, as far as the build size goes, it should be the same except for one package which is gcc, since we have a 32bit ABI build, 32/64 ABI build, and 32/n32/64 ABI

Re: Book for 6.1-pre1: a few miscellaneous nits

2005-07-06 Thread Ken Moffat
On Wed, 6 Jul 2005, Bernard Leak wrote: Dear List, I present a few nits I have picked out of the hair of blfs-6.1-pre1 (the book): LFS, not blfs. The word is programme. Yes, it really is, unless you are writing American. It is a curiosity of the LFS book that

/mnt/lfs/dev and 6.1-pre

2005-07-07 Thread Ken Moffat
Should I expect /mnt/lfs/dev to be busy when I come to shut down after building 6.1-pre2 (in an xterm, if it matters) ? Nothing showed in lsof or fuser, and I was able to remount r/o. Maybe this isn't new and I've just not noticed before ? Ken -- das eine Mal als Tragödie, das andere Mal

Re: /mnt/lfs/dev and 6.1-pre

2005-07-07 Thread Ken Moffat
On Thu, 7 Jul 2005, Matthew Burgess wrote: Ken Moffat wrote: Should I expect /mnt/lfs/dev to be busy when I come to shut down after building 6.1-pre2 (in an xterm, if it matters) ? Not if you were using the version specified in that book. Later versions kick off a daemon, which one has

Re: Coreutils installation, and some minor grammar issues

2005-07-08 Thread Ken Moffat
On Thu, 7 Jul 2005, Chris Staub wrote: The coreutils installation page (in both Chapters 5 and 6) strongly recommends adding DEFAULT_POSIX2_VERSION=199209 to the configure command. I've installed lfs several times over the last couple of months without that, and never had a problem. It is

Re: LFS Roadmap

2005-07-25 Thread Ken Moffat
On Mon, 25 Jul 2005, Matthew Burgess wrote: LFS-6.2: This will just be an incremental release, further stabilising our already proven PLFS-based build method. GCC-3.4.x combined with Glibc-2.3.5 seems pretty robust, and adding binutils-2.16.1 to the mix should further solidify that.

Re: LFS Roadmap

2005-07-25 Thread Ken Moffat
On Mon, 25 Jul 2005, GN wrote: On Monday 25 July 2005 12:36, Matthew Burgess wrote: A number of people have emailed me privately, and its also come up on the list recently, so here's my thoughts on what could/should be going on in LFS land. Yes, I know it's taken me far too long to

Re: LFS Roadmap

2005-07-26 Thread Ken Moffat
On Tue, 26 Jul 2005, TheOldFellow wrote: OK, we have some i18n 8-bit users, but multibyte? I see some names than might be Chinese on the list occasionally. I imagine some of our german-speaking users might prefer to use utf. I often see posts (not necessarily on lfs lists) where there are

glibc test hangs (6.1 cross-build)

2005-07-26 Thread Ken Moffat
I've definitely got a strangeness in my current build scripts for pure64 x86_64 from i686. First time I built it, running make check on target glibc hung in inet tests. Looking at it, I discovered I had omitted the fix_test patch. Applied that, tests completed. This time, I'm trying to get

Re: glibc test hangs (6.1 cross-build)

2005-07-26 Thread Ken Moffat
On Tue, 26 Jul 2005, Ryan Oliver wrote: Indeed I have seen this a couple of times... From (possibly faulty) memory I recall noticing it in chroot builds (which for convenience is predominately what I have done of late...) will check my logs and get back to you... Thanks, I'll appreciate

Re: Change r6572 Roadmap

2005-07-29 Thread Ken Moffat
On Fri, 29 Jul 2005, Jim Gifford wrote: In my book patching GCC should only be done when neccessary, to me there had to be a better solution. Hi Jim, Applying that remark to a different context, I guess that means you'll be dead against lib|lib32 (instead of lib64|lib), or indeed pure64

Re: Remaining 6.1 bugs

2005-07-30 Thread Ken Moffat
On Sat, 30 Jul 2005, Bruce Dubbs wrote: This is a list of the remaining 6.1 bugs that need package updates: Bug Package Assigned to 1350 Kerberos 1369 Tidy Randy 1430 LIBPCAP 1443 Firefox 1444 Thunderbird Richard 1475 Ethereal Randy - Bruce, I take it

Re: stupid newbie question

2005-07-30 Thread Ken Moffat
On Sat, 30 Jul 2005, Jaap Struyk wrote: Op za 30-07-2005, om 17:19 schreef Jaap Struyk: What the 2 have in common is: asm operand 1 probably doesn't match constraints and impossible constraint in `asm' Both modules build fine on a clean kernel, but the errors don't make sence to me.

zlib symlink from /usr

2005-08-01 Thread Ken Moffat
This is prompted by upgrading zlib to 1.2.3 (thanks to Matt for the heads up). Everything in my system using a shared libz is linked against libz.so.1 (good), but we persist in offering packages a symlink from /usr/lib/libz.so to /usr/lib/libz.so.1.2.3 [ png bit me when I overlooked that in my

Re: Chapter 5 GCC nit

2005-08-02 Thread Ken Moffat
On Mon, 1 Aug 2005, Randy McMurchy wrote: Hi all, A minor nit I noticed in the Chapter 5 GCC instructions (all versions): Noted in the SBU times between Pass 1 and Pass 2 is that they seem to be reversed. Pass 1 is shown to be 4.4 SBU and Pass 2 is 11.0. Shouldn't these be the other way

Re: Upcoming util-linux

2005-08-03 Thread Ken Moffat
On Wed, 3 Aug 2005, steve crosby wrote: Just a heads up - util-linux 2.13 will remove several items, as per the following changelog entry for pre1 Changes: GNU autoconf/automake/libtool are now used for building. schedutils were added. Support for curses implementations other than ncurses

Re: LFS-stable, errata and new packages

2005-08-08 Thread Ken Moffat
On Mon, 8 Aug 2005, Torsten Vollmann wrote: Hi Folks. I think of this because I want to run a stable LFS on my main system but if a package is updated and put into LFS-trunk I'm always wondering if it could be applied to LFS-stable, too, or if it would mix up the build process because the

Re: System clock hastening

2005-08-08 Thread Ken Moffat
On Mon, 8 Aug 2005, Matthew Burgess wrote: Jens Olav Nygaard wrote: My system clock seems to gain an extra five minutes per hour, snip Any ideas? Yep, I just use ntp (see BLFS). My hardware clock seems to gain even when the system is switched off! I have a bootscript that syncs the

Re: Working towards 6.1 final

2005-08-09 Thread Ken Moffat
On Tue, 9 Aug 2005, Ken Moffat wrote: I plan to look at dhcpcd in a few minutes Well, the good news is it seems to be maintained again (a 2.0.0 version at berlios.de incorporating recent patches from debian and gentoo). The bad news is the layout of the source has been tidied up, moving

Security patches

2005-08-16 Thread Ken Moffat
Hi, One of the things I've started spending more time on recently is trying to ensure my systems are patched against known problems. [ Ah, the good old days when I only had a handful of applications to worry about ]. Most of the packages I'm trying to monitor are not in the LFS book, but a few

Re: Security patches

2005-08-17 Thread Ken Moffat
On Tue, 16 Aug 2005, Archaic wrote: On Tue, Aug 16, 2005 at 09:47:06PM +0100, Ken Moffat wrote: This vulnerability should be low risk for most of us, but I think it's the sort of thing that ought to be applied. Agreed. Hmm, I think I should have checked the patches list before

Re: Shared library permissions

2005-08-22 Thread Ken Moffat
On Mon, 22 Aug 2005, Matthew Burgess wrote: Hi folks. Does anyone know why shared libraries need the execute bit set on them? My most recent build (gcc4-based) has most[1] *.so files installed with 755 permissions. As it's so consistent, I'm assuming there is a reason for them to be

Re: 7.0-cross-lfs-20050818-x86_64 section 10.3 glibc installation

2005-08-23 Thread Ken Moffat
On Sat, 20 Aug 2005, Ken Moffat wrote: On Fri, 19 Aug 2005, Jim Gifford wrote: Ken, Ryan, Doug, and others Do we need to make a change here for the pure64 build, or is further testing needed? Well, I've got through this part now, using 20050821, building pure64 from my own pure64

Re: 7.0-cross-lfs-20050818-x86_64 section 10.3 glibc installation

2005-08-23 Thread Ken Moffat
On Tue, 23 Aug 2005, Ken Moffat wrote: Sack-cloth and ashes time. I missed the slibdir=/lib part. Since LFS is all about learning, anybody like to point me to a HOWTO on learning to read what the book says, rather than what I think it says ? Thanks for the clue, Jim. So, now I'll

Re: 7.0-cross-lfs-20050818-x86_64 section 10.3 glibc installation

2005-08-23 Thread Ken Moffat
On Wed, 24 Aug 2005, Ken Moffat wrote: On Tue, 23 Aug 2005, Jim Gifford wrote: No problems Ken. But what do you think of my reasoning on the error about the different symlink names for ld? At the moment, that sounds plausible (I've just posted about the perl script bailing out). I used

Re: Firefox and profile locking: Chapter 2

2005-08-24 Thread Ken Moffat
On Wed, 24 Aug 2005, Randy McMurchy wrote: [cc'd to BLFS-Dev from BLFS-Support] Archaic wrote these words on 06/25/05 12:01 CST: [snip what is already instructions in the book] make -C browser/installer cd dist mv firefox /opt/firefox-${version} ln -sf /opt/firefox-${version}

Datapoint, x86_64-64

2005-08-24 Thread Ken Moffat
Test results from a pure64 build (gawk was still 3.1.4, although I doubt that makes a difference here). This is just intended as an initial marker, for binutils the book expects no errors - maybe we'll change that if people confirm these results. This build was from an LFS-6.1 pure64 host.

Re: Pushing UTF-8 support into LFS

2005-09-01 Thread Ken Moffat
On Thu, 1 Sep 2005, Matthew Burgess wrote: Or, to address both of those points, make it LFS-patches policy to simply reject any patch that hasn't been submitted upstream! :) Matt. OK, so we can drop most of the lfs-specific patches for starters. And what happens when we do send

Expected glibc test failures with gcc4 ?

2005-09-03 Thread Ken Moffat
A question for all of the people champing at the bit to get gcc4 into the mainline book - does *anybody* see glibc passing the maths tests (float, double, ifloat, idouble) in chapter 6 ? If they pass for you, what CPU ? I've got a reasonably new AMD processor (San Diego athlon64, slumming

Re: cannot boot

2005-09-03 Thread Ken Moffat
On Sat, 3 Sep 2005, David Ciecierski wrote: It most certainly does have to be selected. Yeah, my sys runs like a charm with it :-) Just a small question: with grsec every mount and unmount produces a few lines of text saying who is {,u}mounting something. Can that be turned off? I mean,

Re: Expected glibc test failures with gcc4 ?

2005-09-03 Thread Ken Moffat
On Sun, 4 Sep 2005, Greg Schafer wrote: There is a patch available to fix most of the failures, but not all: http://sources.redhat.com/ml/libc-hacker/2005-03/msg00067.html http://sources.redhat.com/ml/glibc-cvs/2005-q2/msg00239.html There is also available a dubious workaround:

gcc4 - proposed changes to glibc check

2005-09-05 Thread Ken Moffat
So everybody on i686 can expect *some* failures in the glibc math tests with gcc-4. I've got the patch from Drepper's (whoops, from _Mr_ Drepper's) commit (thanks, Greg) which solves half of the failures. Looking at fedora4, even with their ability to selectively pick fixes from CVS they use

Re: gcc4 - proposed changes to glibc check

2005-09-05 Thread Ken Moffat
On Mon, 5 Sep 2005, Randy McMurchy wrote: Randy McMurchy wrote these words on 09/05/05 11:10 CST: Good work, Ken. FWIW, I think that the SBU and disk space should include building all locales. Here are my figures. [EMAIL PROTECTED]: ~/build/Build-System/Installed-System/glibc-2.3.5 cat

Re: gcc4 - proposed changes to glibc check

2005-09-06 Thread Ken Moffat
On Tue, 6 Sep 2005, Alexander E. Patrakov wrote: Ken Moffat wrote: Thanks, I'm only really concerned about chapter 6 at the moment. I seem to remember somebody (Alexander, perhaps) suggesting that the correct method is to install the required locales, which for me equates to the minimal

Re: Error in chapter 6.14

2005-09-08 Thread Ken Moffat
On Thu, 8 Sep 2005, Olivier Seubert wrote: Yeah, you asked this on -support yesterday, and I replied that the config.log you need to look at is in the libstdc++-v3 directory. If you didn't seem my response, it should be in the archives. Please take this back to lfs-support. Ken -- das

Re: X86_64 Multi-lib cross-build glibc32/64 gcc4 __thread failure

2005-09-08 Thread Ken Moffat
On Thu, 8 Sep 2005, Jeremy Huntwork wrote: Jim Gifford wrote: Interesting!! So either GCC is not compiling Glibc with NPTL correctly, or we have a GCC 4.0.1 issue. Matt Darcy is trying the Currently GLIBC snapshot. If the snapshot works well, we should seriously consider using that in

Re: GCC-4 Update(2)

2005-09-09 Thread Ken Moffat
On Wed, 7 Sep 2005, Randy McMurchy wrote: Here's a current list of packages known to compile using GCC-4. The list is updated as I go (automated). Build scripts for any of the packages you see on this list are available upon request.

Re: [RFC] Udev configuration changes

2005-09-13 Thread Ken Moffat
On Tue, 13 Sep 2005, Matthew Burgess wrote: Like I said in the original RFC, udev *will* still create nodes for *all* device it finds, regardless of the existence or otherwise of a rule in its configuration files. It just means that where a rule doesn't exist for the device, it will be

Re: RFC - Cross-LFS Future

2005-09-15 Thread Ken Moffat
On Thu, 15 Sep 2005, Jim Gifford wrote: Jeremy Huntwork wrote: That seems to be the natural course to follow. I would like to see some of the goals/guiding principles of Cross-LFS layed out, too though. For example, how closely does it follow LFS and decisions made there, like package

Re: RFC - Cross-LFS Future

2005-09-15 Thread Ken Moffat
On Thu, 15 Sep 2005, M.Canales.es wrote: If that will meant that Cross-LFS will be focused on pure cross-build techniques and scenarios, i.e. it assumes that host-triplet != target-triplet, thus no chroot way to build the final system, focusing the normal LFS book on host-triplet =

Re: This is the end

2005-09-20 Thread Ken Moffat
On Tue, 20 Sep 2005, Jeremy Huntwork wrote: Thanks again - I've enjoyed it immensely. Thanks for all you've done, maybe we'll see you back one day. Ken -- das eine Mal als Tragödie, das andere Mal als Farce -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-dev FAQ:

Cross-LFS questions

2005-09-30 Thread Ken Moffat
Two questions: (i) Is there still a public rendering of this book ? I went to the website to check if I'd borked something in my editing but couldn't find any mention of Cross-LFS. Perhaps it's part of the restructuring. (/me suppresses a thought that editors on non-projects have a

Re: Cross LFS Status

2005-09-30 Thread Ken Moffat
On Fri, 30 Sep 2005, Jim Gifford wrote: We are currently trying to stablize the Cross-LFS book. Any thoughts on a package freeze for existing packages, particularly glibc ? (That is, freeze versions unless it becomes clear that a different version will solve problems). I'm preparing to

Re: Cross LFS

2005-10-01 Thread Ken Moffat
On Sat, 1 Oct 2005, Jim Gifford wrote: Manuel and LFS-dev, I have been thinking about this for a few days. Cross-LFS has two different options in it, boot and chroot. Boot is a complete reboot and chroot is like the standard LFS book. Talking with various people, an idea popped into my

Re: Cross LFS

2005-10-02 Thread Ken Moffat
On Sun, 2 Oct 2005, M.Canales.es wrote: If you are rendering/validating all book each time that you made a little change in the sources, yes, the process is very long. But if the change you made only affect some archs, you can validate/render only that books (for example, mips ands mips64)

Re: gcc4 and glibc-2.3.x

2005-10-03 Thread Ken Moffat
On Sun, 2 Oct 2005, Andrew Benton wrote: Ken Moffat wrote: Well, the snapshot in cross-lfs is surprisingly good, but in general trying to follow glibc CVS is a full-time job for anybody who cares about more than just x86. I haven't built x86 on cross-lfs yet, but if the c++-types-check

Re: My status

2005-10-03 Thread Ken Moffat
On Mon, 3 Oct 2005, Jeremy Huntwork wrote: Hello All, Hi Jeremy, I was pleased to see you back. I'm disappointed that not everyone viewed your useful contributions in the same way. Ken -- das eine Mal als Tragödie, das andere Mal als Farce --

Re: gcc4 and glibc-2.3.x

2005-10-03 Thread Ken Moffat
On Mon, 3 Oct 2005, Andrew Benton wrote: Ken Moffat wrote: Were you using glibc-20050926, or glibc-2.3-20050926 ? Oh, and did you definitely include the bash avoid_WCONTINUED patch ? I started with glibc-20050912 and I've been updating it with cvs every Sunday (I know how to have fun

Cross-LFS findutils problem.

2005-10-06 Thread Ken Moffat
I've been trying to understand why the findutils testsuites were failing in Cross-LFS. The first problem (the xargs suite) could be fixed by adding a /bin/echo symlink (we were using /tools/bin/echo when the test ran, and the xargs tests were rewritten for 4.2.25 - if no action is specified

Re: [RFC] LFS-6.1.1

2005-10-08 Thread Ken Moffat
On Sat, 8 Oct 2005, Jeremy Huntwork wrote: I hadn't meant cut a branch from trunk and call it 'stable' - that would require a lot more testing. I meant take the current 'stable' book and do whatever minimally needs to be done to fix each bug and re-release. It really would be a 6.1.1 in

Re: [RFC] LFS-6.1.1

2005-10-13 Thread Ken Moffat
directories are empty, e.g. in a chroot. Ken Submitted By: Date: 2005-10-14 Initial Package Version: 3.3.4 Upstream Status: From glibc-cvs Origin: http://sources.redhat.com/ml/libc-hacker/2005-02/msg5.html Applied by hand and rediffed by Ken Moffat. Description: Avoid segfault

Re: [RFC] LFS-6.1.1

2005-10-14 Thread Ken Moffat
On Fri, 14 Oct 2005, Jeremy Huntwork wrote: This one applied fine with an offset, built correctly and is running smoothly. Openssh-4.2p1 also built on the same system and running well. In that case, I'd rather go with yours (I think there is a possibility that my rejection was caused by

Re: kbd - sparc

2005-10-17 Thread Ken Moffat
On Mon, 17 Oct 2005, jaca wrote: Hello I've obtained the following errorc while compiling Kbd-1.12 gcc -c -Wall -Wmissing-prototypes -Wstrict-prototypes -O2 -DDATADIR=\/usr/share /kbd\ kbdrate.c kbdrate.c: In function 'KIOCSRATE_ioctl_ok': kbdrate.c:167: error: 'struct kbd_rate' has no

Re: Cross-LFS multilib - perl, glibc tests

2005-10-19 Thread Ken Moffat
On Wed, 19 Oct 2005, Ken Moffat wrote: For the temporary tools, I'm guessing we could just build a 32-bit perl (assuming any 64-bit testsuites will NOT produce perl modules). Progress update: Using the 20051017 glibc snapshot and ONLY a 32-bit perl in test-tools, the 64-bit glibc

Re: Cross-LFS multilib - perl

2005-10-20 Thread Ken Moffat
On Thu, 20 Oct 2005, Ryan Oliver wrote: example patch for x86_64 lib64 attached (rename it to something appropriate) Thanks, I'll play with one of those later. Just thought I'd pipe up here... what use is there having both 32 and 64bit modules created if you are only going to be able

Re: curious almost circular install

2005-10-21 Thread Ken Moffat
pOn Thu, 20 Oct 2005, Doug Ronne wrote: But now the cvs emacs requires texinfo, which I had been leaving off my temporary tools. So I guess I have to install texinfo to install emacs to install gettext but texinfo requires gettext! wee!!! Don't you lose the info pages from gcc if you

Re: Version 7.0-cross-lfs-20051023-x86_64

2005-10-24 Thread Ken Moffat
On Mon, 24 Oct 2005, Duncan Webb wrote: Hi all, Just build the boot stages of Version 7.0-cross-lfs-20051023-x86_64 from a LFS 6.1 (32-bit) system. I've noticed a few small errors that I would like to report. 5.4. Build Variables Following the commands will set LFS_TARGET to

Re: Version 7.0-cross-lfs-20051023-x86_64

2005-10-24 Thread Ken Moffat
On Mon, 24 Oct 2005, Duncan Webb wrote: wouldn't it be better to say: echo am_cv_func_working_getline=yes config.cache because if the configure has already been run then the cache file should be truncated. I've assumed that _some_ architectures already write to config.cache in these

Re: Version 7.0-cross-lfs-20051023-x86_64

2005-10-25 Thread Ken Moffat
On Tue, 25 Oct 2005, Duncan Webb wrote: Ken Moffat wrote: On Mon, 24 Oct 2005, Duncan Webb wrote: 9.4. Expect-5.43.0 I think the configure line should be: CC=gcc ${BUILD64} ./configure --prefix=/tools --with-tcl=/tools/lib \ --with-tclinclude=$TCLPATH --with-x=no because the tools have

Re: [OT] Strace

2005-10-25 Thread Ken Moffat
On Tue, 25 Oct 2005, Duncan Webb wrote: I know this is off topic, so don't shout at me... I was trying to build strace-4.5.12 under x86_64 but it has compilation problems. Attached is a patch, taken from gentoo that fixes there. Regards, Duncan Blimey, it's a bit big, isn't it ;) I've

Re: [OT] Strace

2005-10-26 Thread Ken Moffat
On Wed, 26 Oct 2005, Duncan Webb wrote: Ken Moffat wrote: My rule of thumb for Beyond-Cross-LFS, at the moment, is to mention issues on blfs-support. Are you thinking of a dedicated Cross-LFS mailing list? Not my call. But we are talking about strace which is a BLFS package

Re: Perl - Cross-LFS Multilib

2005-10-27 Thread Ken Moffat
On Thu, 27 Oct 2005, Alexander E. Patrakov wrote: Jim Gifford wrote: Translated for Cross-LFS would be. -Dlibpth=/usr/local/lib64 /lib64 /usr/lib64 \ -Dprivlib=/usr/lib/perl5/5.8.7 \ -Dsitelib=/usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.7 \ -Dvendorlib=/usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.7 \

Re: Perl - Cross-LFS Multilib

2005-10-27 Thread Ken Moffat
(Adding Jim back to the CC) On Thu, 27 Oct 2005, Ken Moffat wrote: Apart from that, this has two deficiencies in my view: (i) our 64-bit perl installs in /usr/lib instead of /usr/lib64, as do all subsequent modules (tested with XML-Parser, which finds libexpat from /usr/lib64, but installs

Re: Perl - Cross-LFS Multilib

2005-10-28 Thread Ken Moffat
On Thu, 27 Oct 2005, Thomas Pegg wrote: On Thu, 2005-10-27 at 21:35 +0100, Ken Moffat wrote: OK, using Ryan's patch from last week plus the installstyle echo, with only a 64-bit perl, everything is in /usr/lib64/perl5 and XML-Parser installs into /usr/lib64/perl5/site_perl. Looks good

Re: Cross X86_64 Question /usr/lib64

2005-10-28 Thread Ken Moffat
On Fri, 28 Oct 2005, Duncan Webb wrote: Question is: 1) should a symlink from /usr/lib to /usr/lib64 be created in the section Creating Directories in chapters 7 8 I agree that xorg is a BLFS support issue and that deals with case 2. Case 1 is a bit like /usr/man link to /usr/share/man,

Re: LFS-Bootscripts-3.2.1 setclock

2005-11-03 Thread Ken Moffat
On Thu, 3 Nov 2005, Duncan Webb wrote: What I don't understand is why anybody would have a problem syncing the hardware clock to the system clock at reboot/power off. After all the system clock is synced to the hardware clock at boot. In that case, please search the lfs archives and

Re: Progress of the build order changes

2005-11-12 Thread Ken Moffat
On Sat, 12 Nov 2005, Matthew Burgess wrote: Jeremy Huntwork wrote: Anyway, the results of the farce run are in my homedir: http://linuxfromscratch.org/~jhuntwork/farce-results A question for Ken, then. What's the difference between: 2 files differed as expected and 1 files differed as

Re: Progress of the build order changes

2005-11-12 Thread Ken Moffat
On Sat, 12 Nov 2005, Jeremy Huntwork wrote: Chris Staub wrote: I just found a problem. I tried building arts and got this... Here's another uncleanness: e2fsprogs and libtool hardcode the path of sed into installed scripts. /usr/bin/mk_cmds (from e2fsprogs) and /usr/bin/libtool both have

Re: Progress of the build order changes

2005-11-12 Thread Ken Moffat
On Sun, 13 Nov 2005, Ken Moffat wrote: Heh, I was just about to revisit your earlier posting and ask about libtool. The difference in bison might be worrying, or it might be nothing (maybe even another candidate for differs as they usually do) - anything interesting in farce-extras

Re: grub

2005-11-13 Thread Ken Moffat
On Sun, 13 Nov 2005, Alexander E. Patrakov wrote: Matthew Burgess wrote: Richard A Downing wrote: Is LILO still maintained? Your comments here worry me a lot about the competence of the team writing grub2. Looks like it is - http://home.san.rr.com/johninsd/pub/linux/lilo. The only

Re: TLS Fix for 6.1.1

2005-11-20 Thread Ken Moffat
On Sun, 20 Nov 2005, Matthew Burgess wrote: DJ Lucas wrote: Sorry it's so last minute with release scheduled in 6 days, but I'd suggest testing this patch for inclusion in 6.1.1. I have tested and verified only on 2.3.5. I don't have time to test this myself, so I'm going to have to ask

Re: TLS Fix for 6.1.1

2005-11-20 Thread Ken Moffat
On Sun, 20 Nov 2005, Archaic wrote: On Sun, Nov 20, 2005 at 09:56:28PM +, Ken Moffat wrote: Personally, I've not seen any problems with xmms (1.2.10) or xine that sound like this bug, even on my 6.1 systems. It is a glibc bug, not nvidia, xmms, xine, or OOo. Read the debian bug report

Re: User IDs and Group IDs

2005-11-22 Thread Ken Moffat
On Tue, 22 Nov 2005, Matthew Burgess wrote: Jeremy Huntwork wrote: 1) Are those specific headers for that version necessary? Wouldn't the current ones work? Well, they work for me (I've been running 2.6.14 for a while now). However, I'd imagine that if the kernel gets a new feature (e.g.

coreutils tests as user dummy

2005-11-22 Thread Ken Moffat
I'm running into problems with the src/su dummy -c make RUN_EXPENSIVE_TESTS=yes check tests on a new architecture - it's telling me that user dummy doesn't exist with both 5.92 and 5.93, but 5.2.1 passes without errors. Looking at my notes and scripts, this is the first time I've tried

Re: coreutils tests as user dummy

2005-11-22 Thread Ken Moffat
On Tue, 22 Nov 2005, Matthew Burgess wrote: Yep, I ran into the same issue. Testing suggested that the /etc/passwd entry for users you want to `su' to need a home dir. I therefore changed the creation of the dummy user to: echo dummy:x:1000:1000::/root:/bin/bash /etc/passwd Have you

Re: OT: simplify CLFS [WAS: Re: User IDs and Group IDs]

2005-11-22 Thread Ken Moffat
On Tue, 22 Nov 2005, Jeremy Huntwork wrote: This is a bit off-topic, but this discussion has triggered another thought. With CLFS at some point (whether you decide to chroot or boot) you're going to be building the remainder of the book natively. At that point does CLFS really need to

Re: More control...hint integration discussion

2005-11-29 Thread Ken Moffat
On Tue, 29 Nov 2005, Randy McMurchy wrote: Though I've never seen a situation where I 'ran into a problem during make install', I suppose it could happen. Just wait till you move to a multilib machine ;) Ken -- das eine Mal als Tragödie, das andere Mal als Farce --

Re: Bzip2 binary

2005-12-03 Thread Ken Moffat
. Ken -- das eine Mal als Tragödie, das andere Mal als Farce Submitted By: Ken Moffat ken at linuxfromscratch.org Date: 2005-12-03 Initial Package Version: 1.0.3 Upstream Status: not submitted Origin: self Description: Copied from the non-shared Makefile so that the shared version can be tested

Re: Bzip2 binary

2005-12-03 Thread Ken Moffat
On Sat, 3 Dec 2005, go moko wrote: After your remarks, I've done another test on my new 64 bits system. This time, I've quite exactly the same time for compressing and decompressing a 600Mo archive (OOo, for the example) with the shared and the partially-static version, with options -9

Re: Alphabetical branch status report (LONG)

2005-12-15 Thread Ken Moffat
On Thu, 15 Dec 2005, Jeremy Huntwork wrote: Ken's Farce is probably good enough for our needs. However I did take a brief look at Greg's scripts and he does a couple of other interesting things, such as de-compressing all .gz files and un-archiving all .a files before running the comparison.

Re: Alphabetical branch status report (LONG)

2005-12-15 Thread Ken Moffat
On Fri, 16 Dec 2005, Ken Moffat wrote: On Thu, 15 Dec 2005, Jeremy Huntwork wrote: Ken's Farce is probably good enough for our needs. However I did take a brief look at Greg's scripts and he does a couple of other interesting things, such as de-compressing all .gz files and un-archiving all

Re: Alphabetical branch status report (LONG)

2005-12-15 Thread Ken Moffat
On Thu, 15 Dec 2005, Dan Nicholson wrote: It sounds like Ken's scripts do a great job of doing the comparison. What I like about Greg's scripts is deciding what's being compared. 1. The build automatically loops to the beginning, skipping the first few stages: create symlinks, create

Re: Alphabetical branch status report (LONG)

2005-12-16 Thread Ken Moffat
On Thu, 15 Dec 2005, Dan Nicholson wrote: That's my prime objection to Greg's method - we always tell people fbbg, but the comparison takes a shortcut. Right, but for the purposes of testing, the environment should be as consistent as possible. That's standard procedure for running a test

Re: Alphabetical branch status report (LONG)

2005-12-16 Thread Ken Moffat
On Thu, 15 Dec 2005, Ken Moffat wrote: I seem to recall that in repeated standard LFS i686 builds, these same binaries can in fact differ, without anybody ever quite knowing why - this is why Greg's ICA, at least last time I looked, did -three- builds to compare which bytes always differed

Re: Alphabetical branch status report (LONG)

2005-12-16 Thread Ken Moffat
On Fri, 16 Dec 2005, Dan Nicholson wrote: On 12/16/05, Ken Moffat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip everything Ken, I seemed to have offended you and I'm sorry that happened. I really don't mean to bad mouth the way you've tested or the tool you've created to assist. I was only arguing

Re: Alphabetical branch status report (LONG)

2005-12-16 Thread Ken Moffat
On Fri, 16 Dec 2005, Dan Nicholson wrote: On 12/16/05, Ken Moffat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just seemed that you were taking offense to my suggestions or you assumed I was taking shots at your tool. If not, then that's good because I didn't mean either. Great As pertains to the testing, I

Re: ICA

2005-12-18 Thread Ken Moffat
On Sun, 18 Dec 2005, Jeremy Huntwork wrote: There are 4 lines that, to me, stand out: unexpected FAIL: /usr/bin/libtool is different unexpected FAIL: /usr/bin/vim differs after stripping and processing unexpected FAIL: /usr/include/c++/4.0.2/i686-pc-linux-gnu/bits/stdc++.h.gch/O0g.gch is

Re: Bash testsuite should not be run as root

2005-12-22 Thread Ken Moffat
On Fri, 23 Dec 2005, Greg Schafer wrote: On Wed, 21 Dec 2005 11:34:22 -0800, Jim Gifford wrote: I posted a solution in lfs-support. Here is it In my testing with Cross-LFS, I have found that this works echo dummy1:x:1000: /etc/group echo dummy:x:1000:1000:::/bin/bash /etc/passwd cd tests

Re: LFS-Alphabetical ICA/Farce Results

2005-12-26 Thread Ken Moffat
On Fri, 23 Dec 2005, Dan Nicholson wrote: I haven't done any research yet, but I'm attaching the ICA report for 1v2. With the exception of farce-extras (too big to move around), you can see the results in http://students.washington.edu/dbnichol/lfs/ . I'm going out of town in the morning, so

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