RE: Hamakor website - http://www.hamakor.org.il

2002-12-29 Thread linux_il
-Original Message- From: Gilad Ben-Yossef The people you mention are active in the TelAviv Linux group (in fact, they practivly founded it) that holds bi weekly meeting and activities. How can I get in touch with this group (the Tel-Aviv Linux Group)? Can't find their e-mails or

counting emails and pine questions

2002-12-29 Thread Ishai Parasol
Hi I'm looking for a way to know (using the command line) the number of emails that a /var/spool/mail/USERNAME file contains. Right now I'm using less /var/spool/mail/USERNAME | grep -c Subject: , but it's not accurate enough (cases of forwarded mails etc.). Any better ideas ? Another question.

RE: counting emails and pine questions

2002-12-29 Thread linux_il
It's a standard trick :-) Messages in these files are separated by From lines (notice the space). Why do you use less? You can supply the file name to grep: egrep -c '^From ' /var/spool/mail/USERNAME I'm not familiar with pine. Have you checked it's docs? It sounds like a trivial question.

Re: counting emails and pine questions

2002-12-29 Thread Muli Ben-Yehuda
On Sun, Dec 29, 2002 at 10:25:47AM +0200, Ishai Parasol wrote: I'm looking for a way to know (using the command line) the number of emails that a /var/spool/mail/USERNAME file contains. Right now I'm using less /var/spool/mail/USERNAME | grep -c Subject: , but it's not accurate enough (cases

Re: counting emails and pine questions

2002-12-29 Thread guy keren
On Sun, 29 Dec 2002, Ishai Parasol wrote: Another question. Is it possible to run pine with another user email file (/var/spool/mail/USER) ? for example, I'm logged as root and want to read USER2 emails (ofcourse, USER2 can't login, he's only a mail account and not a full user). If it's

Re: counting emails and pine questions

2002-12-29 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Sun, 29 Dec 2002, guy keren wrote: On Sun, 29 Dec 2002, Ishai Parasol wrote: Another question. Is it possible to run pine with another user email file (/var/spool/mail/USER) ?for example, I'm logged as root and want to read USER2 emails (ofcourse, USER2 can't login, he's only a mail

Kernel Build Problem

2002-12-29 Thread Aharon Schkolnik
Hi. I am trying to build kernel 2.4.18-19.8.0. I get all the way through the make install stage with no problems, but when I try make modules_install I get: make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.18-19.8.0/arch/i386/lib' make[1]: Nothing to be done for `modules_install'. make[1]:

Takanon in transparent format [Was: Re: Hamakor website]

2002-12-29 Thread Boris Gorelik
How about publishing the takanon in transparent format (as it is designed by GNU Free Documentation License: CITATION A Transparent copy of the Document means a machine-readable copy, represented in a format whose specification is available to the general public, that is suitable for revising

ISOC lecturer?

2002-12-29 Thread Hetz Ben-Hamo
Hi, I was just wondering - did anyone submit papers to the upcoming ISOC kinus about Open Source? (it will be held in the Kfar Hamaccabiah, Feb. 17-18).. Thanks, Hetz = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word

Re: ISOC lecturer?

2002-12-29 Thread Muli Ben-Yehuda
On Sun, Dec 29, 2002 at 03:13:01PM +0200, Hetz Ben-Hamo wrote: Hi, I was just wondering - did anyone submit papers to the upcoming ISOC kinus about Open Source? (it will be held in the Kfar Hamaccabiah, Feb. 17-18).. Ok, here's the CFP: http://www.isoc.org.il/conf2003/callforpapers.html I

Re: ISOC lecturer?

2002-12-29 Thread Gilad Ben-Yossef
On Sun, 2002-12-29 at 15:13, Hetz Ben-Hamo wrote: Hi, I was just wondering - did anyone submit papers to the upcoming ISOC kinus about Open Source? (it will be held in the Kfar Hamaccabiah, Feb. 17-18).. Well, sort of ;-) I *might* be giving there a lecture about Open Source/Free

Re: Takanon in transparent format [Was: Re: Hamakor website]

2002-12-29 Thread Gilad Ben-Yossef
On Sun, 2002-12-29 at 14:57, Boris Gorelik wrote: How about publishing the takanon in transparent format (as it is designed by snip. I just think in terms of idiological consistency. We will. The only reason the takanon is like this is because it was written by lawyers (being a legal

Re: Takanon in transparent format [Was: Re: Hamakor website]

2002-12-29 Thread Shachar Shemesh
Can someone please explain to me the advantages of a transparent format version of a document that is, by definition, centerally managed? Sh. Gilad Ben-Yossef wrote: On Sun, 2002-12-29 at 14:57, Boris Gorelik wrote: How about publishing the takanon in transparent format (as it

Re: Kernel Build Problem

2002-12-29 Thread Oleg Goldshmidt
Aharon Schkolnik [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi. I am trying to build kernel 2.4.18-19.8.0. I get all the way through the make install stage with no problems, but when I try make modules_install I get: make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.18-19.8.0/arch/i386/lib' make[1]:

Re: Kernel Build Problem

2002-12-29 Thread Aharon Schkolnik
Oleg == Oleg Goldshmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Oleg Aharon Schkolnik [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi. I am trying to build kernel 2.4.18-19.8.0. I get all the way through the make install stage with no problems, but when I try make modules_install I get:

Re: ISOC lecturer?

2002-12-29 Thread Muli Ben-Yehuda
On Sun, Dec 29, 2002 at 03:13:01PM +0200, Hetz Ben-Hamo wrote: Hi, I was just wondering - did anyone submit papers to the upcoming ISOC kinus about Open Source? (it will be held in the Kfar Hamaccabiah, Feb. 17-18).. URL will be nice... -- Muli Ben-Yehuda The speed of light really is

Re: Kernel Build Problem

2002-12-29 Thread Gilad Ben-Yossef
On Sun, 2002-12-29 at 15:10, Aharon Schkolnik wrote: Hi. I am trying to build kernel 2.4.18-19.8.0. I get all the way through the make install stage with no problems, but when I try make modules_install I get: find kernel -path '*/pcmcia/*' -name '*.o' | xargs -i -r ln -sf ../{}

Re: Takanon in transparent format [Was: Re: Hamakor website]

2002-12-29 Thread Gilad Ben-Yossef
On Sun, 2002-12-29 at 15:59, Shachar Shemesh wrote: Can someone please explain to me the advantages of a transparent format version of a document that is, by definition, centerally managed? Supposed someone wants to suggest a change to the Takanon - he can edit the transparent format document

Re: ISOC lecturer?

2002-12-29 Thread Ira Abramov
Quoting Gilad Ben-Yossef, from the post of Sun, 29 Dec: I *might* be giving there a lecture about Open Source/Free Software and it's use in the Internet infrastructure. umm, I hooe you don't keep it to an introductory lecture. I was already sad to see that RMS' lecture is really just the

Re: Hamakor website - http://www.hamakor.org.il

2002-12-29 Thread Ehud Karni
On 29 Dec 2002 09:44:23 +0200, Gilad Ben-Yossef [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Full name of the Hamakor is Israeli society for Free and Open Source Software. Both the fact that we state both terms and that we seperate the terms are meaningful. I think this definition is much too encompassing.

Re: Kernel Build Problem - Solved

2002-12-29 Thread Aharon Schkolnik
I had CONFIG_XA86_P4_CLOCKMOD AND CONFIG_X86_SPEEDSTEP set to M I changed them to N These options have no HELP, and it was pretty hard to find documentation on them. Seems that M was a bad guess :-) Gilad == Gilad Ben-Yossef [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Gilad On Sun, 2002-12-29 at 15:10,

Re: Hamakor website - http://www.hamakor.org.il

2002-12-29 Thread Gilad Ben-Yossef
On Sun, 2002-12-29 at 16:28, Ehud Karni wrote: On 29 Dec 2002 09:44:23 +0200, Gilad Ben-Yossef [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Full name of the Hamakor is Israeli society for Free and Open Source Software. Both the fact that we state both terms and that we seperate the terms are meaningful.

Re: Takanon in transparent format [Was: Re: Hamakor website]

2002-12-29 Thread b g
On Sunday 29 December 2002 15:44, Gilad Ben-Yossef wrote: .. We will. The only reason the takanon is like this is because it was written by lawyers (being a legal document) for Rasham Ha Amutut which works with (you guessed it) DOC files and it is still being debated by Which means that the

Re: Kernel Build Problem - Solved

2002-12-29 Thread Oleg Goldshmidt
Aharon Schkolnik [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I had CONFIG_XA86_P4_CLOCKMOD AND CONFIG_X86_SPEEDSTEP set to M I changed them to N These options have no HELP, and it was pretty hard to find documentation on them. Not only that, I could not even find anything related in the code (2.4.20

Re: Takanon in transparent format [Was: Re: Hamakor website]

2002-12-29 Thread Ira Abramov
Quoting b g, from the post of Sun, 29 Dec: We will. The only reason the takanon is like this is because it was written by lawyers (being a legal document) for Rasham Ha Amutut which works with (you guessed it) DOC files and it is still being debated by Which means that the amuta has a

Need Linux embedded specialist

2002-12-29 Thread Victor Zaslavsky
Hi folks, Sorry for publishing advertisement here. URGENT. - I need two Linux specialists familiar with specifics of embedded devices (low memory, low disk space, etc.). The intent is to move appropriate people to our branch in Houston, Texas, USA, for two years.

Re: Takanon in transparent format [Was: Re: Hamakor website]

2002-12-29 Thread Nadav Har'El
On Sun, Dec 29, 2002, b g wrote about Re: Takanon in transparent format [Was: Re: Hamakor website]: We will. The only reason the takanon is like this is because it was written by lawyers (being a legal document) for Rasham Ha Amutut which works with (you guessed it) DOC files and it is

VMWare update

2002-12-29 Thread Hetz Ben Hamo
Hi People, Over the last few weeks I had a crash with VMWare when I was exiting the guest OS (I tried with Win2k and Win2k server as guest OS) - VMWare was crashing right after I was clicking power off when the guest OS has been closed. I have seen this happend on 4 machines - all of them Red

Re: Need Linux embedded specialist

2002-12-29 Thread Hetz Ben Hamo
I need two Linux specialists familiar with specifics of embedded devices (low memory, low disk space, etc.). Victor, I think (IMHO) that it might be beneficial for you and the people who are subscribed to get a bit more info: * Are you looking for kernel hackers? * Embedded Specialist - do

Re: ISOC lecturer?

2002-12-29 Thread Nadav Har'El
On Sun, Dec 29, 2002, Ira Abramov wrote about Re: ISOC lecturer?: a few words on what it can do for the Israeli internet in particular is important, and the drifting away from open standards of the Israeli internet towards MS-isms as we discussed this week. maybe even a couple The ISOC

Re: Takanon in transparent format [Was: Re: Hamakor website]

2002-12-29 Thread Ehud Karni
On 29 Dec 2002 16:04:48 +0200, Gilad Ben-Yossef [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 2002-12-29 at 15:59, Shachar Shemesh wrote: Can someone please explain to me the advantages of a transparent format version of a document that is, by definition, centerally managed? Supposed someone wants to

RE: Need Linux embedded specialist

2002-12-29 Thread Victor Zaslavsky
I need to run Linux on the following board: CPU: Transmeta Crusoe TM 5500 or TM 5800, Northbridge: Integrated into TM5800 processor Southbridge: ALI 1535+ BIOS:Phoenix BIOS, supports ACPI, DMI, PnP Memory: 128 MB DDR-266 IDE: ALI 1535+ built-in, Bus Master, Supports

RE: Takanon in transparent format [Was: Re: Hamakor website]

2002-12-29 Thread linux_il
Just a minor correction taken as an excuse to educate people about such organizations - (or I am going to be corrected) - the body in charge of the Takanon, and which is the top body in an Amuta in general, is the assembly (i.e. all voting members of the Amuta). The Vaad is just the

Re: Need Linux embedded specialist

2002-12-29 Thread Hetz Ben Hamo
On Sunday 29 December 2002 18:34, Victor Zaslavsky wrote: I need to run Linux on the following board: For this you have Midori Linux from transmeta. See: http://midori.transmeta.com/ - if I recall correctly (I played with it a LONG time ago) it supports all the hardware you mentioned, but you

Re: Takanon in transparent format [Was: Re: Hamakor website]

2002-12-29 Thread Shachar Shemesh
Here's hoping that you will get the attention my exact same posting didn't. Sh. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just a minor correction taken as an excuse to educate people about such organizations - (or I am going to be corrected) - the body in charge of the Takanon, and which is the top

random adsl disconnect

2002-12-29 Thread Elie
I have been running my adsl connection on my linux box for only a few days. While I had no problems setting up the connection (good work fellows), I am experiencing some random disconnects. The linux machine is masqing for a small network. Only a windows XP machine is being masqed at the moment.

Re: Need Linux embedded specialist

2002-12-29 Thread Nadav Har'El
On Sun, Dec 29, 2002, Hetz Ben Hamo wrote about Re: Need Linux embedded specialist: On Sunday 29 December 2002 18:34, Victor Zaslavsky wrote: I need to run Linux on the following board: For this you have Midori Linux from transmeta. See: The guy said he was looking to employ somebody for

Re: Takanon in transparent format [Was: Re: Hamakor website]

2002-12-29 Thread Nadav Har'El
On Sun, Dec 29, 2002, Shachar Shemesh wrote about Re: Takanon in transparent format [Was: Re: Hamakor website]: Here's hoping that you will get the attention my exact same posting didn't. It's nice to see that a board member isn't trigger-happy to wield his power, but the truth (I think, I am

Re: Need Linux embedded specialist

2002-12-29 Thread Hetz Ben-Hamo
The guy said he was looking to employ somebody for two years. I assume this means he has a lot of work planned for the new recruit, and it will not be enough to take a ready-made Linux distribution and use it as-is... You know, basing your product on Linux doesn't mean that you don't

Re: random adsl disconnect

2002-12-29 Thread Hetz Ben-Hamo
I am using RH 8.0. The adsl ethernet modem is connected at eth0. After the pppd connection dies I can't even ping the modem for several minutes and I need to bring eth0 down and back up with ifconfig. eth0 is ip 10.200.1.1 and eth1 is 192.168.1.1 Here is the message log for the last

Re: Takanon in transparent format [Was: Re: Hamakor website]

2002-12-29 Thread Ira Abramov
Quoting Nadav Har'El, from the post of Sun, 29 Dec: The 5 people on the vaad were voted to actually do things (...) all this and more on the general discussion list of Hamakor (discuss-subscribe(at)hamakor.org.il) now for other exciting news of linux-il like... if my closed-source Java program

Re: Need Linux embedded specialist

2002-12-29 Thread Nadav Spiegelman
On Sunday, December 29, 2002, at 03:25 PM, Hetz Ben-Hamo wrote: The Linux distribution which is on the Sharp Zaurus for example could really fit his needs (although it's for Arm processor, I'm sure it can be easily converted to X86 clone processors). I asked on #zaurus on Freenode

Re: Takanon in transparent format [Was: Re: Hamakor website]

2002-12-29 Thread Shaul Karl
On Sun, Dec 29, 2002 at 05:19:20PM +0200, b g wrote: On Sunday 29 December 2002 15:44, Gilad Ben-Yossef wrote: .. We will. The only reason the takanon is like this is because it was written by lawyers (being a legal document) for Rasham Ha Amutut which works with (you guessed it) DOC files

Re: Need Linux embedded specialist

2002-12-29 Thread Nadav Spiegelman
On Sunday, December 29, 2002, at 03:25 PM, Hetz Ben-Hamo wrote: Well actually it's not download-install-shell, but there are over 144 distributions for almost any imaginary combinations. From 1 floppy all the way to S/390. The Linux distribution which is on the Sharp Zaurus for example

Re: Takanon in transparent format [Was: Re: Hamakor website]

2002-12-29 Thread Shaul Karl
On Sun, Dec 29, 2002 at 06:00:25PM +0200, Ira Abramov wrote: seriously, why should the registrar care if it's transparent or opaque if he's not going to edit it? as long as it's an open and popular standard it can be PDF or Flash for all I care :) I believe that PDF is hardly popular

Re: counting emails and pine questions

2002-12-29 Thread Shaul Karl
On Sun, Dec 29, 2002 at 10:25:47AM +0200, Ishai Parasol wrote: Hi I'm looking for a way to know (using the command line) the number of emails that a /var/spool/mail/USERNAME file contains. Right now I'm using less /var/spool/mail/USERNAME | grep -c Subject: , but it's not accurate enough

Re: Takanon in transparent format [Was: Re: Hamakor website]

2002-12-29 Thread Shaul Karl
On Sun, Dec 29, 2002 at 06:17:01PM +0200, Nadav Har'El wrote: It's quite interesting, by the way, that they even take electronic documents, MS-Word or not. From what I recall in my dealings with lawyers, or the lawyers I see on TV ( ;) ), they always work with printed documents (on papers

JAVA and other dangers

2002-12-29 Thread Gilad Ben-Yossef
On Sun, 2002-12-29 at 22:46, Ira Abramov wrote: like... if my closed-source Java program calls an otherwise standalone Jar that is GPL and embeds its output in the main GUI (a sort of applet within an applet), is my program, which links directly to its APIs (if I got it correctly), forced to

RE: random adsl disconnect

2002-12-29 Thread Eytan Heidingsfeld
I don't know much about the linux/adsl combo but I do know that on a win2k box I have I had the same problem (although I didn't adjust the mtu). I have just recently (last week) converted my Alcatel home to an Alcatel Pro and removed all need for a dialer at all. This connection is much more

Re: JAVA and other dangers

2002-12-29 Thread Ira Abramov
Quoting Gilad Ben-Yossef, from the post of Mon, 30 Dec: The question to be answered is whether or not the closed programs is a derivative of the GPLed one. The GPL states that a program that is linked against a GPLed program is considered a derivative program, so according to the GPL you

Re: JAVA and other dangers

2002-12-29 Thread Gilad Ben-Yossef
On Mon, 2002-12-30 at 01:01, Ira Abramov wrote: The question to be answered is whether or not the closed programs is a derivative of the GPLed one. The GPL states that a program that is linked against a GPLed program is considered a derivative program, so according to the GPL you only

Re: ISOC lecturer?

2002-12-29 Thread Doron Shikmoni
Gilad Ben-Yossef wrote: On Sun, 2002-12-29 at 15:13, Hetz Ben-Hamo wrote: Hi, I was just wondering - did anyone submit papers to the upcoming ISOC kinus about Open Source? (it will be held in the Kfar Hamaccabiah, Feb. 17-18).. Well, sort of ;-) I *might* be giving there a lecture

Re: random adsl disconnect

2002-12-29 Thread Shaul Karl
On Sun, Dec 29, 2002 at 09:06:23PM +0200, Elie wrote: I have been running my adsl connection on my linux box for only a few days. While I had no problems setting up the connection (good work fellows), I am experiencing some random disconnects. The linux machine is masqing for a small network.

Re: URL with memory management explained

2002-12-29 Thread guy keren
On Wed, 25 Dec 2002, Michael Sternberg wrote: I'm looking for a good URL that explains memory management in modern Linux kernel. I.e. what happens when I'm typing malloc, how many memory is assigned to a process, what is virtual memory, how swapping works, etc... ok. this was the last

Re: ISOC lecturer?

2002-12-29 Thread Reuven M. Lerner
I proposed a talk for the ISOC conference about open-source Web application environments. Given that they specifically asked for papers in their open-source track, I figured that this was appropriate. Last week, I received a rejection notice. They said that there were so many submissions that

Re: JAVA and other dangers

2002-12-29 Thread Alexander Maryanovsky
The question to be answered is whether or not the closed programs is a derivative of the GPLed one. The GPL states that a program that is linked against a GPLed program is considered a derivative program, so according to the GPL you only get legal rights to use the GPLed program if you offer the

Re: Kernel Build Problem - Solved

2002-12-29 Thread Aharon Schkolnik
Oleg == Oleg Goldshmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Oleg Aharon Schkolnik [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I had CONFIG_XA86_P4_CLOCKMOD AND CONFIG_X86_SPEEDSTEP set to M I changed them to N These options have no HELP, and it was pretty hard to find documentation on

RE: qt

2002-12-29 Thread Boulgakov Andrei
Title: RE: qt Yes, QT will. For Windows you have light QT 2.0.3 for free. -Original Message- From: kfir lavi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, December 30, 2002 8:05 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: qt hi, i need to construct a testing program that will show a graph, to

Re: qt

2002-12-29 Thread kfir lavi
Boulgakov Andrei wrote: Yes, QT will. For Windows you have light QT 2.0.3 for free. -Original Message- From: kfir lavi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, December 30, 2002 8:05 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: qt hi, i need to construct a testing program that will show a graph,

RE: qt

2002-12-29 Thread Boulgakov Andrei
Title: RE: qt Sorry.. ftp://ftp.trolltech.com/qt/non-commercial/QtWin230-NonCommercial.exe and all documentation on http://www.trolltech.com -Original Message- From: kfir lavi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, December 30, 2002 8:37 AM To: Boulgakov Andrei Cc: [EMAIL

Re: Takanon in transparent format [Was: Re: Hamakor website]

2002-12-29 Thread Oleg Goldshmidt
Shaul Karl [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: How easy it is to create .pdfs on Windows without paying a lot of money to Adobe? Almost as easy as on Linux I'd say: install cygwin, create a LaTeX doc, compile it to ps, use ps2pdf. All of that should work with cygwin. ;-) -- Oleg Goldshmidt | [EMAIL

Re: Takanon in transparent format [Was: Re: Hamakor website]

2002-12-29 Thread Oleg Goldshmidt
Nadav Har'El [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It's quite interesting, by the way, that they even take electronic documents, MS-Word or not. From what I recall in my dealings with lawyers, or the lawyers I see on TV ( ;) ), they always work with printed documents (on papers with strange, non-standard

Re: Kernel Build Problem - Solved

2002-12-29 Thread Oleg Goldshmidt
Aharon Schkolnik [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Oleg Not only that, I could not even find anything related in the Oleg code (2.4.20 though). Out of curiosity, where did you find Oleg it? Google search Oh, it's a patch... ;-) -- Oleg Goldshmidt | [EMAIL PROTECTED]