Re: textmaker for very little money, tuesday only
Dep wrote: quoth Leon A. Goldstein: | I ordered a copy this morning. I will only use Textmaker | occasionally to format HTML documents. After playing a bit with the | trial download, I do find Textmaker a lot simpler for the non-expert | to format a HTML document than OO or Staroffice. that's the one thing for which i found textmaker fairly unsuitable -- it behaves like koffice and some others in putting in *way* too much formatting, often more than doubling the size of the document. (actually, kword did a lot to fix this by offering a stripped html formatting option.) there's not a really good linux wysiwig html editor that i've found. Now you tell me. ;-(>) I suppose file bloat is the price you pay for convenience. One of these days I'll figure out how to use Bluefish. -- Leon A. Goldstein Powered by Libranet 2.8 Debian Linux System LI ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Novell buys SuSE!
Collins Richey wrote: The feedback on Linux Today is a mixture of SCO take your [EMAIL PROTECTED] and stuff it, KDE will die (the Novel/XIMIAN connection), and bemoaning the loss of European control of a major linux distro. I would think(hope) that Novell has learned something since the Unix debacle. The initial press release indicates that Novell will push the desktop offerings. Since RedHat has chosen to concentrate on servers, this merger (if well executed) could provide the impetus to bring linux to a lot more of the commercial desktop user market. Maybe you won't need to signup with MS, Roger, to hasten the demise of MS! Some of us remember what happened to DR DOS and Word Perfect after Novell bought them. It is not auspicious IMHO. -- Leon A. Goldstein Powered by Libranet 2.8 Debian Linux System LI ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: I need a distro recommendation!
Bob Raymond wrote inter alia: Debian... I'm also willing to try it... but I just have a bad taste in my mouth after the last time I tried it (though that was several years ago- I just hated having to wait for up to date versions to make it into stable, which I'm definitely going to be using on someone else's machine). You can download a free copy of Libranet 2.7 and try it. No telling if it will run your sound though. Libranet 2.8/2.8.1 added ALSA. -- Leon A. Goldstein Powered by Libranet 2.8 Debian Linux System LI ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: I need a distro recommendation!
Bob Raymond wrote: Leon A. Goldstein wrote: > Bob Raymond wrote inter alia: > >>Debian... I'm also willing to try it... but I just have a bad taste in >>my mouth after the last time I tried it (though that was several years >>ago- I just hated having to wait for up to date versions to make it into >>stable, which I'm definitely going to be using on someone else's machine). >> > > You can download a free copy of Libranet 2.7 and try it. > No telling if it will run your sound though. Libranet 2.8/2.8.1 > added ALSA. > Well... Intel I810 sound works with OSS.. but one of my big gripes with Redhat was that it didn't have ALSA, so sound kept cutting out all the time at first. I don't particularly like admin'ing his machine when I have a million of my own things to be doing, so since Slackware and Debian seem to have ALSA for free, plus from what I've read (and seen in the case of Debian with that ancient Potato) they seem to be really stable, I'll give them a try first. Thanks tho Bob Raymond Libranet 2.7 set up sound during installation on my P4 box, also with i810 sound. You can always gor the Knoppix route too. -- Leon A. Goldstein Powered by Libranet 2.8 Debian Linux System LI ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Maximum Memory in Linux
Brian Simper wrote: Is there a theoretical or functional maximum memory you can put in a Linux machine? I have a server with 2GB installed but the free command stubbornly says: # free total used free shared buffers cached Mem: 902768 672416 230352 0 45820 193564 -/+ buffers/cache: 433032 469736 Swap: 522216 25124 497092 This is Red Hat Linux 9 machine with a stock kernel. Am I missing some crucial point? Has anyone else dealt with a lower than expected reported memory? Thanks, Brian You probably need to recompile your kernel to support > 1GB. At least that is what you need to do with Libranet Debian. Recompiling the Libranet kernel is easy - I did it to match the CPU's on my boxes (default is 486). -- Leon A. Goldstein Powered by Libranet 2.8 Debian Linux System LI ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: i wonder . . .
Tony Alfrey wrote: On Thursday 18 September 2003 04:42 pm, Leon A. Goldstein wrote: > Dep wrote: > > i was just moving some stuff around while bringing in stuff from > > the outside in anticipation of tonight's windstorm, and i happened > > upon a box containing boxed sets and original cds from several > > dozen now-defunct linux distributions. while i have it out, i'll > > add an actual boxed set of unitedlinux and my progeny stuff. > > If your trove includes any copies of Corel Linux with WordPerfect > 8.1, you might post a note on the Corel WP Linux newsgroup. > Plenty of folks would like to buy a copy. I have the Corel Linux Disks and also the Personal Edition of Corel WP for Linux 8 (the program release says 8.0.0076 6/23/98). My dial-up is probably too slow to send them anywhere but maybe I could burn a copy of the disks and mail them somewhere?? But there must be someone with a fast connection that could post them? I can't recommend copying or posting your CD's owing to the copyright. There are people who are quite willing to buy your CD's, and will gladly pay a reasonable price. If you don't want to post on the Corel newsgroup yourself, you can let me know what you have, and what you're asking, and I'll post the info. BTW do you have Corel Linux deluxe or standard edition? It makes a difference as far as WP 8.1 goes. -- Leon A. Goldstein Powered by Libranet 2.8 Debian Linux System LI ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: i wonder . . .
Dep wrote: i was just moving some stuff around while bringing in stuff from the outside in anticipation of tonight's windstorm, and i happened upon a box containing boxed sets and original cds from several dozen now-defunct linux distributions. while i have it out, i'll add an actual boxed set of unitedlinux and my progeny stuff. If your trove includes any copies of Corel Linux with WordPerfect 8.1, you might post a note on the Corel WP Linux newsgroup. Plenty of folks would like to buy a copy. -- Leon A. Goldstein Powered by Libranet 2.8 Debian Linux System LI ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: HP scanners on Linux.
Bill Campbell asked: That said, can anybody recommend current scanners that are well supported under Linux? My current need is for a pretty vanilla flat bed scanner, but we will also need ones with automatic document feeders. Take a look at the Epson 1650/1660 or 2400/2450 scanners. The SANE version provided with Libranet 2.8 (1.0.10-1) supports them directly, which is just as well since the latest Epson backend seems to have problems. NBD since xsane works perfectly, including turning on the slide backlighting. Note: do not consider the Epson 1670, which is not supported. -- Leon A. Goldstein Powered by Libranet 2.8 Debian Linux System LI ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: worms worms worms
Net Llama wrote inter alia: Yea, i hear that apt-get thing is really painful time consuming. Well, if you do a complete KDE upgrade with a dial-up connection it can be a bit time consuming. As far as painful goes, there are some people who might disagree. -- Leon A. Goldstein Powered by Libranet 2.8 Debian Linux System LI ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: hd problem
Keith Antoine wrote inter alia: Looking at the drive in dos it sees c: only and If I access the R and fixmbr it says its not a standard mbr. All we did was change the motherboard, could this wipe the mbr and scaramble it? Is there a way to fix without losing all the data? It looks to me as if there is no way out but to reformat and re partition etc. Sounds like another partition overlay problem (Maxblast, EZDrive, etc.). I believe these programs interact with the BIOS, so a different BIOS will mess up how it reads the MBR. -- Leon A. Goldstein Powered by Libranet 1.9.1 Debian Linux System 5151 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Samsung printers support Linux out of the box
Michael Fakaro wrote inter alia: Brought it home and it was printing great in 5 minutes drivers installed no problem. I just felt it was important to mention because of Samsungs support of Linux. I know many printers run under Linux but at least these guys go the extra step, this is a really nice printer and I'm very pleased to be able to support a Linux friendly printer manufacturer. Does the Samsung 1750 emulate any known lasers, e.g. HP? We Word Perfect users need specific printer drivers. I recently bought a HP 1200 laser (closeout model) and got the WP DOS drivers for it. I'm looking for another laser. The Samsung price is attractive, although the toner cartridges are pricey and have comparatively low capacity. -- Leon A. Goldstein Powered by Libranet 1.9.1 Debian Linux System 5151 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Australia Sends SCO on Walkabout
Tim Wunder wrote: On 7/31/2003 8:48 AM, someone claiming to be Tom Wilson wrote: > On Wed, 2003-07-30 at 19:59, Leon A. Goldstein wrote: > [snip] >>Actually, I could sure go for a Belgian Rodenbach right now, but the >>North Carolina Booze Bureaucrats have ruled that I >>may not buy this delectable brew here. SCOL! >>-- >>Leon A. Goldstein > Not being able to buy the beer you want is reason enough to move, AFAIC. There are plenty of other reasons. Gotta unload a house in a buyer's market for one. > > So is that why beer is so expensive there? They have a Booze > Bureaucracy? I was in Kill Devil Hills in late June and paid $20 US for > a case of Miller Lite. I felt I was stroked. Now here in Ohio, we Ick! $20 for Miller Lite! You *were* stroked... Tourist trap prices. You could have gotten two cases of Saranac Pale Ale for that. > drive to Kentucky and get Miller Lite for $12 a case. And Samuel > Smith's Oatmeal Stout is only $3.99 a pint. M... > > I was going to stop by Red Hat headquarters on my way home from OBX but > I didn't know where it was in relation. (My attempt to not drift TID). > Perhaps we should have a [EMAIL PROTECTED] list... I think we already have one :-) -- Leon A. Goldstein Powered by Libranet 1.9.1 Debian Linux System 5151 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: What was it about eD 2.4?
Lots of people wrote too much to quote. Between reminiscing about eDesk 2.4 and favorite brews, this is becoming another eDesk 2.4 wake. Not that that is a bad thing. How many other distro's of the past command such fond loyalty? I still keep eDesk 2.4 on an old P 233 box. It is a word processing station. I installed WordPerfect Office 2000/linux on it and it runs flawlessly. Performance is quite satisfactory, since KDE 1.1 imposes so little system overhead. My only gripe is that I could never get a Netscape 4.7x upgrade to work on it. My eDesk 2.4 system will be doing my correspondence for me indefinitely. -- Leon A. Goldstein Powered by Libranet 2.8 Debian System LI ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: What was it about eD 2.4?
Keith Antoine wrote: On Fri, 1 Aug 2003 08:29 am, Leon A. Goldstein wrote: > Lots of people wrote too much to quote. > > Between reminiscing about eDesk 2.4 and favorite brews, this is becoming > another eDesk 2.4 wake. > Not that that is a bad thing. How many other distro's of the past > command such fond loyalty? I still wonder though how much the excellent mailing list contributed to its success. I'd say significantly. If you like statistics, the contribution was 50%. Of course, the engineers and programmers contributed the other 50% What good is a superbly engineered product nobody likes? Like the "anatomically perfect" car seats Daimler Benz used to make. The users were happy and enthusiastic and wanted to wring the maximum performance out of eDesk 2.4. I remember when Erik Ratcliffe and Marcus Meissner were active list members. I would like to think that they participated because of the professional pride they had in their "baby" and enjoyed talking to the people who used, and appreciated, their work. -- Leon A. Goldstein Powered by Libranet 2.8 Debian System LI ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Australia Sends SCO on Walkabout
A group in Australia has filed a complaint with the Australian Competition and Consumer Commission about SCO's attempt to license users of the Linux 2.4 kernel. http://www.linuxjournal.com/article.php?sid=7037mode=threadorder=0 I'm going to salute this initiative with a 1/2 liter can of Fosters tonight. -- Leon A. Goldstein Powered by Libranet 1.9.1 Debian Linux System 5151 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Australia Sends SCO on Walkabout
Tony Alfrey wrote: On Wednesday 30 July 2003 02:59 pm, Keith Antoine wrote: > On Thu, 31 Jul 2003 03:20 am, Roger Oberholtzer wrote: > > On Wed, 2003-07-30 at 18:20, Leon A. Goldstein wrote: > > > A group in Australia has filed a complaint with the Australian > > > Competition and Consumer Commission about SCO's > > > attempt to "license" users of the Linux 2.4 kernel. > > > http://www.linuxjournal.com/article.php?sid=7037mode=threadorde > > >r=0 > > > > > > I'm going to salute this initiative with a 1/2 liter can of > > > Fosters tonight. > > > > IMHO, VB would be better. > > Oh, we are getting nasty. VB and Fosters ?? is the Queensland > beer. I thought Foster's was just the cheap stuff that they imported to us gringos in the States and that no real self-respecting Aussie would touch the stuff?? Here in the Sovereign State of North Carolingia the Booze Bureaucrats decide what can be sold to us groundlings. This is fittingly analogous to the method by which M$ and SCO contrive with the politicians and judiciary to limit our OS choices. (Note the crafty way I keep this post from going TID.) Actually, I could sure go for a Belgian Rodenbach right now, but the North Carolina Booze Bureaucrats have ruled that I may not buy this delectable brew here. SCOL! -- Leon A. Goldstein Powered by Libranet 2.8 Debian System LI ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Windows Crashes
Federico Voges wrote: >>From the New York Times: > >"Mr. Gates acknowledged today that the company's error reporting service >indicated that 5 percent of all Windows-based computers now crash more >than twice each day." > >(http://www.nytimes.com/2003/07/25/technology/25SOFT.html) > And that they don't have data about the other 95% :-D I know a sure way to keep Windows from crashing - don't multitask. -- Leon A. Goldstein Powered by Libranet 2.8 Debian System LI ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: So do I need to start learning SuSE?
I've said this before, and mention it in my review of Libranet 2.8 posted on the Linux Journal website. A Caldera eDesk 2.4 or OL 3.1.1 user will likely find a "kindred spirit" in Libranet. System management is straight forward, and Libranet's tech support answers their mail. I have used SuSE since 6.1. I bought, and subsequently sold, SuSE 8.2 for one reason. It does not work with WordPerfect Office 2000. Since installing it in Libranet 2.8, I have gotten excellent use out of Quattro Pro and Paradox. WP9 is less important to me since WP8.1 (the native Linux word processor) does almost everything I need. Star Office 6 is reserved only for those pesky Word documents, which it handles with aplomb. Libranet is Debian without the "attitude." -- Leon A. Goldstein Powered by Libranet 1.9.1 Debian Linux System 5151 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: So do I need to start learning SuSE?
Matthew Carpenter wrote: I would like to see a distro which is as powerful and "GUI-Friendly" as SuSE 8.2 pro, done with a Lizard install... Don't you all remember the beauty of Lizard!? Now only Lycoris uses it, and I'd probably be willing to run some Lycoris if they'd include some of the new packages (like KDE3.1, etc...) SOT, formerly Best Linux, used Lizard. At the risk of sounding like a broken record, Libranet Debian has an installer that is "reminiscent" of Lizard, but of course it is not as graphically sophisticated. The Lizard partition tool IMHO is still unequalled. -- Leon A. Goldstein Powered by Libranet 2.8 Debian System LI ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re:Libranet review, sorta
Gary Wilson wrote inter alia: But cutting edge is not always where you want to be on the desktop anyway. Libranet sets up a very stable desktop system that is pure Debian. That's a very good thing. That says a lot, particularly coming from the author of Caldera OpenLinux Installation and Configuration Handbook -- Leon A. Goldstein Powered by Libranet 2.8 Debian System LI ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Redhat 9 and KDE
Matthew Carpenter wrote: You should really check out SuSE if this is your goal. Most software is included, including Sylpheed 0.8.10claws72, and almost everyhing you need as a default install. Once you install, you can export a package listing and duplicate that install the next time as well. SuSE has renewed my hopes in Desktop Linux. 8.2 professional is the best distro I've seen yet. If you are interested in the great looking and feeling KDE, you want SuSE 8.2, which focusses on KDE (whereas RH focusses on Gnome) and the default SuSE theme is Keramik, which is gorgeous (and doesn't break KDE like RH does) $0.02 ching If any one wants a slightly used (i.e. one time) SuSE 8.2 Professional, let me know. You can have it for $40 plus whatever it costs to ship it. -- Leon A. Goldstein Powered by Libranet 1.9.1 Debian Linux System 5151 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re:$200 computer and video
Joel Hammer wrote: I posted awhile back about my lindows box ($200, Debian distro). I noted that running xine froze the computer and required a reinstall of the whole dang thing. Since then, I have been leery of video, although realplayer has worked fine. I just installed mplayer from the lindows warehouse (I mean, how else can you view those movies from the weather satellites?). It runs beautifully. So, there is hope for video on this box. You need a small file added in order to play DVD's with xine. I don't know how Lindows handles this. Libranet's Xine would not play until I downloaded the missing codec. Since there apparently is some legal issue involved, I don't think it appropriate to discuss details here. BTW the latest Consumer Reports has a review of the Walmart Lindows boxes. It is not favorable. However, Consumer Reports takes an "average user" perspective. Your previous posts on the the subject make a convincing argument that a knowledgeable Linuxist can wring acceptable performance out of one of the Walmart Lindows boxes. Leon A. Goldstein Powered by Libranet 1.9.1 Debian Linux System 5151 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: $200 computer and video
Bob Hemus wrote: Leon A. Goldstein wrote: > Joel Hammer wrote: > BTW the latest Consumer Reports has a review of the Walmart Lindows > boxes. It is not favorable. > However, Consumer Reports takes an "average user" perspective. Your > previous posts on the the subject make a convincing argument that a > knowledgeable Linuxist can wring acceptable performance out of one of > the Walmart Lindows boxes. > About 25 years ago I was in the market for a good camera. CR blasted The Nikon F and the Canon F1?? I kinda thought they were the top of the line 35mm cameras. By the way I do subscribe to CR, and there is no comparison to a $200 computer today to a $400 camera 25 years ago. 30 + years ago the car by which CR judged all others was the Dodge Dart with the slant-6 engine. I respect their reliability /frequency of repair reports, and by and large they give good recommendations for consumer goods. The value of their evaluation drops off when they plunge into more esoteric subjects. Just imagine CR doing a review of Linux distributions. BTW I bought a Nikon Ftn 30 years ago. Wish now I had kept it. -- Leon A. Goldstein Powered by Libranet 2.8 Debian System LI ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Wordperfect in linux?
Roger Oberholtzer wrote: On Sat, 31 May 2003 09:08:02 -0400 Joel Hammer<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I used to use WP8 for linux. Fine program but it did get a bit outdated. I > think I finally got fed up with the filter nonsense. > > I tried WP office 2000 when it first came out. It was a dog, as we all > know, written to run with wine. Bad fonts, unstable, just awful. > > There have been big improvements they say in wine and certainly the > computers are faster and the memory is cheaper. Is anyone using the > Wordperfect office suite in linux lately? No. But I have been having success with FrameMaker under Wine. Fonts seem much better. I have not put it through rigorous testing as I haven't had the time yet. But I will. I know that codeweavers claim to support Word now. And their improvements do get back into the wine release. So, maybe WP will also work much better. I picked up a copy of WPO 2000 from http://www.softwareandstuff.com/s_tech_net_linuxwp9.html for $24 delivered. This version is apparently a later release. I have installed it on Libranet 2.7 and .2.8, and eDesk 2.4. Installation on Caldera WS 3.1.1 is not so happy. There is an error report on starting WP9 than you can click through, and writing tools are disabled. Installation is better on SuSE 8.0 if libaps is installed first, as advised in the release notes. It does not run at all on SuSE 8.2. It works quite well. The WPO2KL version I got is the deluxe package and includes Paradox 9. It and Quattro Pro are stable, probably thanks to that tight Borland API. There is a bug that causes WP9 to crash if I open a second document, but this can be handled by opening (from the file manager) and closing each document in turn. The documents are then listed at the bottom of the file menu, and can be opened simultaneously thereafter for cut-and-paste work. The M$ Word filter is very good. I opened a large .doc file with an embedded Excel table without a hitch, even though this file was inaccessible to Applix Word and WP 8.1/Linux, even with the Filtrix patch. The package comes with a large library of TT fonts, which must be installed one by one. Comparing notes with an owner of the original release, the one I got, which apparently was intended for the UK market, has later file dates than the original release. Said other owner reports that the Fontastic font manager is crippled after installing CrossOver Office. It also includes a small 3 " plush Tux toy, vice the inflatable penguin that came with the original. CrossOver Office informed me that support for WPxx/win is still on the drawing board, but I get the impression it is not a priority. -- Leon A. Goldstein Powered by Libranet 1.9.1 Debian Linux System 5151 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Burning CD's with Knoppix
Could someone provide me a how-to for burning a CD with Knoppix? A friend just had his Windows 98 roll over. If I can't resurrect it with a dose of Norton, I want at least to rescue his files. TIA. -- Leon A. Goldstein Powered by Libranet 1.9.1 Debian Linux System 5151 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: First impressions of a $200 lindows box: Good
Joel Hammer wrote: How do I tell what the package is. All this stuff happens automatically and I know nothing about debian. Where on the computer would I find the package name? Joel I'm curious about the packaging of SO you downloaded from the warehouse. Was it a tar? For apt-get or synaptic to work, you need sources, i.e. URL's, listed in /etc/apt/sources.list. This is where you can set the range of your updates to stable, testing, or unstable. What is listed in your Lindows? re StarOffice: did you have to run through the usual SO setup after you downloaded it? I am not aware of any Deb package of SO. I remember that Caldera 2.2/2.3 included SO 5 in RPM, but you still had to go through the setup rigamarole. -- Leon A. Goldstein Powered by Libranet 1.9.1 Debian Linux System 5151 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re:Calling all DEPs
Matthew Carpenter wrote: http://www.worldtechtribune.com/worldtechtribune/asparticles/sv/sv10302002.asp You may wish to addess this numbskull in a fashion you've proven time and again to excel at: With reality and education. Thanks, Matt What did it say? The link returns the page cannot be found. -- Leon A. Goldstein Powered by Libranet 1.9.1 Debian Linux System 5151 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Wheelmouse Scrolling with Netscape 4.79 in Caldera WS 3.1.1
Anyone know the secret to (re)activating wheelmouse scrolling in WS 3.1.1 with Netscape 4.79? I installed NS 4.79 from the commercial CD, and managed to get it running by: 1. edit /usr/bin/netscape script to point to the new NS 4.79 path 2. edit /etc/app-defaults and relink two symlinks (Netscape and netscape.cfg) to new NS 4.79 install directory. However, there is no wheelmouse scrolling, which was available with the default NS 4.77. I am familiar with this problem; it is easy to fix by adding a script to /home/(user)/.Xresources, but there is no .Xresources in my WS 3.1.1 user directory. (Learned this from Libranet 1.9.1) Oh yes, Netscape 7.0 has wheelmouse scrolling without any additional calisthenics required. -- Leon A. Goldstein Powered by Libranet 1.9.1 Debian Linux System 5151 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: OT Tux
Rick Sivernell wrote: List At the below url is a place to get stickers of Tux, first it is great sticker, but it is in Germany, I speak no German and do not know the money system. If someone overthere can check out the site and tell me how much they are in my money system, I would appreciate it. http://www.ixsoft.de/software/products/FSPCINSIDE.html Another possibility: http://www.LinuxMall.com/shop/01726 -- Leon A. Goldstein Powered by Libranet 1.9.1 Debian Linux System 5151 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: mandrake files bankruptcy
Lee wrote: They're in reorganization. They got fouled up when they went public with over the counter stocks. Instead of selling the stocks they gave away warrants to the rich and greedy to purchase stock. The rich folks never exercised the warrants so mandrake ended up with no real amount of stock sold, no new money and all the stock tied up in warrants. Since then they have been trying to get warrant holders to sell pieces of their warrants to members of the mandrake club who would buy the stock. About the only bright light to the whole thing is that mandrake got rid of the high powered investors and their incompetent managers who dreamed up the scheme. A year or so ago there were reports that the French government was considering switching to Linux. If so, I don't think it likely Mandrake will be allowed to go under. The French deputies are not likely to approve a non-national Linux. I think it more likely that Mandrake will become a regie before it disappears. When French automaker Citroen went under, the French government coerced Peugeot to buy it, to prevent Italy's FIAT from getting the historic car builder. Ditto with French Chrysler. -- Leon A. Goldstein Powered by Libranet 1.9.1 Debian Linux System 5151 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Voice recognition
Joel Hammer wrote inter alia: My problem is my sound card. The sound comes through very garbled on my speakers. Despite this, it still recognized commands, although with some difficulty. This may be time to get rid of that old soundblaster. I'd suggest you try a different set of speakers before sentencing your old soundblaster to oblivion. Compared to AC97 sound, my old SB's are loud and clear. I am getting reports from the Debian list I frequent of the same. -- Leon A. Goldstein Powered by Libranet 1.9.1 Debian Linux System 5151 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Partition Schizophrenia Booting DOS with GRUB
C M Reinehr wrote: Yes no. Before you blame your problems on Linux or Grub you should know that there are no universal standards governing the way partitions are defined and managed. Different operating systems have different ways of doing it. I can't remember where I read it, but a valuable bit of advice is to use _only_ the partition tools provided with your operating system. Using a partitioning tool from DR-DOS, to creat partitions, managed by a third party product to be used for a M$ operating system booted by a Linux boot loader ... See where this is going? Before going any further I stongly recommend some midnight reading from the Linux Documentation Project: http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/HOWTO-INDEX/os.html#OSPARTITIONS The documentation presumes only one DOS partition. I guess it is MY fault for having the temerity to try running a multi-partition DOS HD slaved to a Linux-booted HD. The only thing GRUB is doing is telling the BIOS that the slave is the master, so boot it from its MBR. This does not explain why the partitions are duplicated. -- Leon A. Goldstein Powered by Libranet 1.9.1 Debian Linux System 5151
Re: Partition Schizophrenia Booting DOS with GRUB
Net Llama! wrote On Fri, 20 Dec 2002, Leon A. Goldstein wrote: > I guess it is MY fault for having the temerity to try running a > multi-partition DOS HD slaved to a Linux-booted HD. > The only thing GRUB is doing is telling the BIOS that the slave is the > master, so boot it from its MBR. > This does not explain why the partitions are duplicated. Cause DOS is too stupid to know how to interpet the partition table correctly? Could be, but the question is - how does smart DOS, that boots perfectly as a master, suddenly become stupid when it is slaved? I can expect weird things with DOS sharing a hard drive with other OS's, but this is a separate drive, with DOS bootloader in its MBR. It's only association to the master is the menu.lst. There are no FAT partitions on the other drive to confuse it. -- Leon A. Goldstein Powered by Libranet 2.7 Debian Linux System 5WV271
Re:Knoppix: Any caveats?
Joel Hammer wrote: I am downloading Knoppix right now and will try to burn it and run it am Morgan, or some such (pardon my German). It seems very straight forward from the web site. Are there any gotcha's of which I should be aware? Thanks, Joel When the initial screen appears, press F2 . You can then type in start options: English (lang=us) wheelmouse, display and some other options. With a fast CDROM you'll hardly notice the difference. Viel Spass! -- Leon A. Goldstein Powered by Libranet 2.7 Debian Linux System 5WV271
Re: Partition Schizophrenia Booting DOS with GRUB
C. M. Reinher wrote: This sounds more like a M$ DOS/Windows problem, than a Linux problem, but a couple of questions come to mind: 1) What tool did you use to set up the partitions? If you used anything other than a M$ DOS or Windows utility (eg. fdisk), that might be the cause of your problem. 2) Have you tried restoring the master boot record with fdisk booting DOS natively, rather than through GRUB? What happens then? The HD was partitioned with FDISK as provided with Novell DOS 7 (aka DR-DOS). The drive boots normally when connected as master, using its own bootloader. GRUB is not in the MBR of this drive; it is a slave to another drive, wherein GRUB is installed. I tried converting the three logical partitions to primary, using Partition Magic 6. This only resulted with the same number of superfluous partitions as before, but the sequencing was changed. I restored the partitions back to logical. Since the drive performs normally booting from its own DOS bootloader, and only goes haywire when booted from GRUB, I'd consider this a GRUB/Linux issue. -- Leon A. Goldstein Powered by Caldera Linux 2.4 System 5WV271 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Joliet and Rock Ridge naming schemes
Joel Hammer wrote: Thanks. mkisofs -J worked just as advertised, at least on windows98. I haven't been using this software long (cdrecord, mkisofs), but, it's really a pleasure to have a command line to burn CD's. Point and click stuff is just too aggravating. Does xcdroast offer any advantages? Joel It's appreciated by those of us who can't type long lines of arcane commands error-free. I like XCDRoast. I just burned a 623 MB data back-up CD with a couple of clicks. -- Leon A. Goldstein Powered by Caldera Linux 2.4 System 5WV271 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: CD burner write speed and cdrecord
Ronnie Gauthier wrote: I know lots of the problems with IDE burning is the CD and HD being on the same ribbon, as well as in direct CD2CD with the CDburner and CDreader on the same ribbon. That is the problem with IDE burners. For on-the-fly burning at high speed the CDROM and CD-RW must be on separate IDE channels. If slaving a CD-RW to a hard drive is not acceptable, then the CDROM should be slaved to the CD-RW. If you look at computers on sale in the various emporia, the CD-RW is the boot or master CDROM. In theory, Burn-Proof allows on-the-fly burning with the CDROM as master, and the CD-RW as slave, on the secondary IDE channel. As pointed out previously, SCSI burners avoid this IDE channel congestion. -- Leon A. Goldstein Powered by Libranet 2.7 Debian Linux System 5WV271 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re:CD burner write speed and cdrecord
Joel Hammer wrote I would appreciate and English translation and some suggestions for setting the speed parameter. If I understand this this means I can set the speed of writing to 48. When I crank up the speed, either to 40 or 50, cdrecord says it is writing at speed = 32. Does the type of disk (mfg or type) influence the top writing speed? I have an 800megahertz Athlon processor. Any insight appreciated, I expect that max burn speed is a function of the version of cdrecord on your system. The max I can burn on eDesk 2.4 using the original version of XCDroast is 8X with a Plextor 40x burner. Using XCDRoast alpha10 with Libranet on the same system I burn at 40x - maximum speed of my Plextor. I also take care to select blank CD's that are rated for 40x burning. I've had very good luck with Fuji - haven't made a coaster yet. -- Leon A. Goldstein Powered by Libranet 2.7 Debian Linux System 5WV271 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: DVD/CD RW and Linux
Anita Lewis wrote: I don't have rc.local - I think I used that in RedHat. I don't have /etc/sysconfig/hardware or /etc/init.d/hwtools either (Running Woody). I read somewhere that one could put scripts like this into /etc/rcS.d. I guess I'd just make it the last script to run. Is there a link to /etc/init.d/hwtools from either the rcS.d or rc2.d directories? I'd be interested in knowing what number is attached so that I could place mine similarly. Thanks. See if you have /etc/rc.boot/hwtools. This is what it looks like. To edit, uncomment the appropriate line(s) and add arguments. #!/bin/sh # # /etc/init.d/hwtools (previously /etc/rc.boot/hwtools) # # Optimize interrupts. You might want to add parameters if you want # to favor ttyS1 or ttyS0 or something else. if command -v irqtune /dev/null 21; then # irqtune [PUT ARGS HERE] true fi # hdparm optimization # Switches on interrupts during transfers and does multi sector transfers if command -v hdparm /dev/null 21; then # hdparm -q [PUT ARGS HERE] true fi # configure QIC-02 interface # see qic02conf(8) # qic02conf --card= --port= --dma= --irq= -- Leon A. Goldstein Powered by Libranet 1.9.1 Debian Linux System 5151 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: DVD/CD RW and Linux
Jim Bonnet wrote: oh agreed for sure, but your fix is vendor specific.. the original poster should decide the correct place depending on their distro.. i should have been more clear.. the correct place is /etc/sysconfig/hardware on my box... For current Debian the file to edit is /etc/init.d/hwtools -- Leon A. Goldstein Powered by Libranet 2.7 Debian Linux System 5WV271 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re:OT suse list angst
Tony Alfrey wrote: Hi I happen to be on the suse list also (but don't use it much). Ever since 8.1 came out, the amount of angst and problems seem to have risen considerably on that list. For you suse'ers, is this just new users or does it seem that 8.1 might have been a little rushed?? I've had that impression since SuSE 6.4. -- Leon A. Goldstein Powered by Caldera Linux 2.4 System 5WV271 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re:35mm slide scanners
Joel Hammer wrote: I would like to buy a linux compatible 35mm slide scanner. Does anyone have any experience with such a device? This will be used for scanning a large number (hundreds to several thousand) of color slides from archival material. Any advice appreciated. Look at the Epson Photo 1660 ( $200) or 2450 ($400). These are rated at 30,000 MCBF (mean cycles between failure.) These have a built-in illuminator and provide a slide holder. You can download Iscan 1.4 from the Epson-Kowa site. I have a detailed how-to posted on the Libranet website (Support Data Base - Libranet 2.0) to install the driver and Iscan front-end and enable it for user. The cheaper 1250 is also now supported. You need to buy an accessory illuminator for this one, and it has only 10,000 MCBF rating. I have the Epson 1650 Photo. It works splendidly. The 1660 supports USB 2. You can probably pick up a 1650 Photo for about $150 as a closeout. Just make sure it is a Photo model - there is a model without the illuminator too. -- Leon A. Goldstein Powered by Caldera Linux 2.4 System 5WV271 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: LILO vs GRUB
Brett Holcomb wrote: As a result of another thread I have a question on LILO and GRUB. I was under the impression that GRUB was to replace LILO for various reasons (supposedly better in some way - handles booting over 1024 cylinders, etc.) but a lot of people are sticking with LILO. Is LILO being phased out? What are the pros and cons of each? One feature I like about GRUB is being able to chainload other Linuces. GRUB need be installed only one time in the MBR, as long as the master Linux is unchanged. This is convenient for a box with numerous OS's and frequent test installations. -- Leon A. Goldstein Powered by Libranet 2.7 Debian Linux System 5WV271 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Linux Journal Review of Libranet 2.7
Ken Moffat wrote: Note that the free download is version 2.0, which is slightly old, but is easy to update. I love libranet. I have version 2.7, beta2, and I have stayed with the default woody install, which is totally reliable. The packages are not totally up to date, but it is stable. It's easy to upgrade to testing or unstable with a change in sources.list, and many have reported good results. Yup, should have mentioned that. If you have an Athlon box, you really should jump right up to 2.7. I don't know why, but the difference between the 2.4.18 kernel in Lib 2.0 and the 2.4.19 in Lib 2.7 is very noticeable on my Athlon 900 mHz box. And of course, Libranet has my loyalty for including all of the libs needed by WordPerfect 8. (They responded to my suggestion/plea to add the libs) With the Filtrix patch and mouse scrolling, WP8 on Libranet still kicks. BTW there is a Win4Lin how-to posted now on the Libranet Support Database, just below my WP8 how-to. Brian Kapturkiewicz wrote: Hi, Do you know http://www.distrowatch.com You'll see Libranet and many others. Yes, although I suspect some or many of the listed distro's are only history. -- Leon A. Goldstein Powered by Libranet 1.9.1 Debian Linux System 5151 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Linux Journal Review of Libranet 2.7
Douglas Hunley wrote: Leon A. Goldstein spewed electrons into the ether that resembled: Linux Journal has just posted my review of Libranet 2.7 Debian on its web magazine. http://www.linuxjournal.com/article.php?sid=6358mode=threadorder=0 and on this note.. anyone here use libranet? anyone care to post a download link? i'd love to try it out before I break open the wallet Joel Hammer and Ken Moffat use it. Go to the Libranet site: http://www.libranet.com/download.html The free download link is at the bottom of the page. -- Leon A. Goldstein Powered by Libranet 2.7 Debian Linux System 5WV271 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: netscape 7
Tony Alfrey wrote: Hi! Has anybody gotten netscape 7 to work and if so, on what distro? Thanks It works fine on my pristine Caldera eDesk 2.4 as well as Libranet 2.7 Debian (2.4.19 kernel/KDE 3.0.3). It installed from the $3 CD I got from Netscape flawlessly. BTW Netscape 4.7X won't scroll in KDE 3. There is a work-around that restores scrolling in Libranet 2.7, but not in SuSE 8. -- Leon A. Goldstein Powered by Libranet 1.9.1 Debian Linux System 5151 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: netscape 7
Tim Wunder wrote: BTW Netscape 4.7X won't scroll in KDE 3. There is a work-around that restores scrolling in Libranet 2.7, but not in SuSE 8. IIRC, you need to have the NumLock off for scroll to work in NS4.7x That's not the problem. KDE 3 does not read .Xresources wherein abides a long script NS 4.7X needs to support scrolling. The fix suggested by Libranet is to run xrdb -merge /home/~/.Xresources. This works but has to be run each time I start KDE. I wrote a little script combining the above command with the NS executable, and my desktop icon invokes it. SuSE 8 does not have the NS4.7x script, so this dodge won't work with it. -- Leon A. Goldstein Powered by Libranet 1.9.1 Debian Linux System 5151 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
BeOS (was Re: what is the command)
Ken Moffat wrote: Well... found a personal edition at the following address: http://www.bebits.com/app/2680 It appears to be a linux edition that installs along side linux. (Does that sounds right?) I have the Professional CD. (Got it along with a fat BeOS Bible last year at Best Buy on sale.) The downloads listed in the above link install either within Linux or Windows, or in their own partition. Installing it in its own partition is the way to go. Early last year I managed to screw up my eDesk 2.4 installation so it would not boot up. I installed BeOS and was able to mount my /home/user, from where I copied my files into BeOS. I then copied these files into Windows on the same machine. (BeOS can read Linux partitions, but not write to them). I then reinstalled eDesk 2.4, then copied my files from Windows. There are other ways of doing this sort of rescue, but using BeOS was fast and easy for me. Ronnie Gauthier wrote: I did a little looking at it a while back when setting up a radio station, seems it is used for that mostly. BeOS was sold and is no longer free. There is a personal version and there is development going on with the old code but as far as I could tell unless you want to spend money its a dead end. BeOS is a dead end at the moment. However, it can turn an old DOS box with a small HD into a useful internet box. There is a BeOS version of an early Opera available as well as an excellent, full featured e-mail app called Mail-It. -- Leon A. Goldstein Powered by Libranet 1.9.1 Debian Linux System 5151 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: what is the command
Anita Lewis responded to Keith Antoine: On Sat, 21 Sep 2002 17:04:41 +1000, Keith Antoine wrote: I cannot find the command that will rewrite the grub boot to the mbr, did have it somewhere. Also a grub boot floppy, need one of those too. grub-install I think. Try 'apropos grub' for related stuff and then 'man' to look in more depth. Grub-install is a script; I have it in Libranet. Here is what I use for Caldera: grep -v ^# /etc/grub.conf | grub --batch Eagerly awaiting news about Skippy Linux. -- Leon A. Goldstein Powered by Libranet 1.9.1 Debian Linux System 5151 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: what is the command
Keith Antoine asked inter alia: Also a grub boot floppy, need one of those too Take a look at the excellent SxS: http://linux-sxs.org/grubflop.html -- Leon A. Goldstein Powered by Libranet 1.9.1 Debian Linux System 5151 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: what is the command
Keith Antoine wrote: I keep losing the mbr with the testing etc that I have been doing, being that I am a geriatric, saves on reinstalls. You're not the only one. I keep a WS 3.1 GRUB floppy next to my lab rat and use it frequently. The last opportunity was installing SuSE 8. YAST changed from the last version I installed, and I expected the boot option after the usual partitioning exercise. Then there are curious distro's like BearOps that in its frenzy of automated installation neglects to provide any option for installing its LILO. Another useful recovery tool is BeOS. It takes little drive real estate and time to install, and its boot loader is nigh universal. -- Leon A. Goldstein Powered by Caldera Linux 2.4 System 5WV271 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Debian question: Package names
Joel Hammer wrote: I added this line to my sources.list file: deb http://download.at.kde.org/pub/kde/stable/3.0.3/Debian/ ./ I want to get kde 3.0.3 on my libranet 2.0 system. Just using adminmenu and kde says I have the most recent. (2.2.2). However, when I run adminmenu, I don't get this higher version number. I don't know what package name I should use, etc. I am a total newbie to Debian. Any insight appreciated. Try adding this to your sources.list file: http://www.gtlib.cc.gatech.edu/pub/kde/stable/3.0.3/Debian/ -- Leon A. Goldstein Powered by Libranet 2.7 Debian System 5WV271 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: installation
Herb DeLong wrote: Thank you all for your help. I guess I'll stop trying to install 2.4. If your requirements are word processing and internet, then eDesk 2.4 is perfect for you. I have Applix 5.0, Star Office 6.0, and of course, Word Perfect 8.1 available for my needs If you need USB e.g. for a scanner, then you would be better off with a more contemporary distro. I happened to be on my Libranet 2 install when your post arrived. This is a really nice up-to-date distro (2.4.18 kernel, KDE 2.2.2) but for running my various word processors and NS 4.79/NS 6.2.2 I prefer eDesk 2.4 because everything runs faster under KDE 1.2. -- Leon A. Goldstein Powered by Libranet 2 Rev 2 Debian Linux System 5WV271 ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Linux-users digest, Vol 1 #936 - 15 msgs
Jay Nugent wrote: I just ordered one for my Dad. Except we went with the SYSMAR703. For just $100 bucks more you get a floppy drive, move up to an Intel 1.3 GHz Celeron (from 850MHz Duron), and move up to a 40 Gig hard drive (from 10 Gig). Video, sound, and 10/100 ethernet are built onto the motherboard. Total bill, including shipping was $414.00 Not a bad price for a Linux compatible system. I'm looking forward to your review and evaluation of this system. I've got an elderly K6-2 350 mHz system that I want to replace. I'm game to give Lindows a try. If it sucks I can always reload the box with RedHat or Debian or SuSE or whatever...but *DEFINITELY NEVER* with WinBlows! Anything that sends a signal to Redmond that people WANT machines without the Microsoft tax/virus is A Good Thing(tm) in my book :-) Thank you Wal-Mart for being brave enough to offer an alternative choice. Perhaps it may not be the BEST choice, perhaps Lindows will need some time to improve and grow. Time will tell... Perhaps the next step is Burger King marketing. You order your Linux compatible system either with no OS, or your choice of Linux preinstalled. -- Leon A. Goldstein Powered by Libranet 1.9.1 Debian Linux System 5151 ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: NPR - Lindows + WalMart
Ken Moffat wrote: On Morning Edition on NPR this morning they had a special on Walmart selling lindows computers. Not a bad audio clip. If you'd like to hear it check www.npr.org, then under programs choose Morning Edition, Latest program, and scroll down to the Lindows link. (You Need realplay8.) Did the NPR report mention that Lindows is a rather light installation, and that you have to subscribe (to the tune of $100 or so) to download productivity apps? I don't think Lindows will make friends for Linux with its current marketing model. -- Leon A. Goldstein Powered by Caldera Linux 2.4 System 5WV271 ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
United Linux
Excerpted from a SuSE news release: http://www.suse.com/us/press/press_releases/archive02/unitedlinux.html The UnitedLinux engineering team encompasses resources from all four Linux companies. Within this Initiative SuSE performs the unique role of the product integrator. While all members jointly define the design of the product, SuSE engineering is responsible for the development and the quality assurance of the final product releases. Reminds me of the joke: Heaven is where the cooks are French, the police are British, the mechanics are German, the houses are American, and the women are Japanese. Hell is where the cooks are British, the police are German, the mechanics are French, the houses are Japanese, and the women are American. -- Leon A. Goldstein Powered by Caldera Linux 2.4 System 5WV271 ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: more on unitedlinux
Jay Nugent wrote: Don't lose sight of what has been a stumbling block for Linux attracting commercial software vendors. The fact that there has never been a stable/standard fielsystem structure for the commercial software houses to build against. Who wants to write a terriffic shoot-em-up video game and then have to port it to 10 different distros and a constantly changing lib structure? Perhaps now, with a consistant LSB, Linux will attract more commercial software vendors to port their applications to (i.e. TurboTax, etc.). We can only hope... Jay sees through the chaff. In other words, unitedlinux (Unux?) aims to achieve what Debian has had for years. -- Leon A. Goldstein Powered by Libranet 1.9.1 Debian Linux System 5151 ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re:I should shutup
Keith Skippy Antoine aka Gandalf wrote inter alia: I sent today a ,mail stating that I was in Calder 2.4, when actaully I was not, but just going to install it at last. Now I have egg on my face because i was totally unable to Install: Caldera eDesktop2.4, Caldera LTP and also Caldera desktop 3.0 It appears that 2.4 is totally unable to install from either of my cddrives; LTP has great problems with my video card, and lastly 3.0 takes ages to boot up to a diagrammed background screen without any text and it freezes. I've experienced a similar problem installing a different distro (BearOps) on my son of lab rat system. The culprit turned out to be the hard drive (Quantum 8.4 GB bigfoot) and not the CD drives. I swapped out the Quantum flatfoot for an elderly WD 6.4 and that solved the problem for me. BTW all of my drives are IDE. If you've got another old HD sitting around, give it a try. -- Leon A. Goldstein Powered by Caldera Linux 2.4 System 5WV271 ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re:I should shutup
Keith Skippy Antoine wrote: No I don't have any 'old' hd's so thats out g Mind if it will not install on any new stuff its no good to me anyway. In my experience WS 3.x has installed flawlessly on all of my boxes/HD's, including the suspect Quantum flatfoot. -- Leon A. Goldstein Powered by Caldera Linux 2.4 System 5WV271 ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Caldera 3.1.1
Michael Scottaline wrote inter alia: Sounds like a great idea. BTW- Your nickname is skippy, so where does Gandalf come into this sig? Remember I used to use Merlin and my magic 'wand'. A short while ago someone called me gandalf. == Yes, yes, Skippy's a *Wizard* ;o) Gandalf is/was the name of the KDE setup wizard that greeted you after installing OL 2.x distro's using KDE 1. I guess he retired too. -- Leon A. Goldstein Powered by Libranet 1.9.1 Debian Linux System 5151 ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Caldera 3.1.1
Skippy (Keith Antoine) observed: Its latest stunt: I installed XCDRoast alpha 10 and the necessary updated libs. When I later installed a different app, YAST decided it did not like the updated XCDRoast and its libs and reinstalled the old versions. Thats not the only thing it does, I installed a few non Suse tarballs etc plus the latest xcdroast. I had crapped on all of them to the extent that i have had to reinstall cdrecordtools 3 times so far. It also just reinstalled some xine and other streaming video packages. No it and Mandrake are not on my Xmas list any longer. I don't know if the SuSE fetish for restoring the cd recording packages is caused by some security concern or just poor implementation of a good concept. SuSE for me is an aggravating distro. They are good when it comes to posting updates and how-to's, and by and large it works out of the box. But somehow it never lives up to expectation. With Mandrake, on the other hand, you take it for granted that it is broken from the start. It's amusing and sometimes educational to play with these distro's, but after using eDesk 2.4 and Libranet Debian for a couple of years I have an expectation, perhaps unreasonable in the present state of Linux, that a Big Buck$ distro will work for me rather than against me. -- Leon A. Goldstein Powered by Libranet 1.9.1 Debian Linux System 5151 ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: a crackpot idea i had
Skippy (Keith Antoine) wrote inter alia: Also I have Suse 8.0 and , _CANNOT_ get the dvd drive to be seen as ide-scsi tried practically everything to no avail, assist please. As most know I wrote the original SxS on this but Suse is a 'Bast***'. I even got it seen in Mandrake's latest but not this one. Oh, yes! it sees the writer ok. Umm I seem to have killed sr1, whats the call for remaking that, but it says that scd1 and sr2 do not exist but they do in /dev. I am interested in the answer too. At the risk of starting a small bush fire, I'd suggest cease flagellating yourself with SuSE and try a nice Debian like Libranet. Case in point: I dloaded xcdroast alpha 10 and ancillary libs for SuSE 8.0. They installed OK, but even with the no-root option selected SuSE 8.0 refuses to let me run xcdroast in user. I then dloaded alpha 10 and ancillary libs from Debian.org and installed it in Libranet 2.0.2. It works fine. And it recognizes my DVD as a SCSI device. -- Leon A. Goldstein Powered by Libranet 1.9.1 Debian Linux System 5151 ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Caldera 3.1.1
Tony Alfrey wrote: H. Are you on the SuSE list? I follow it and there seems to be a moderate amount of angst with various things about 8.0. So I've been reluctant to spend my time on it. I have SuSE 8 on my lab rat where I too reluctantly spend time with it. Its latest stunt: I installed XCDRoast alpha 10 and the necessary updated libs. When I later installed a different app, YAST decided it did not like the updated XCDRoast and its libs and reinstalled the old versions. -- Leon A. Goldstein Powered by Caldera Linux 2.4 System 5WV271 ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: a crackpot idea i had
dep wrote inter alia: second, and this *isn't* an advertisement; do not feel in any way obligated to go here no matter how attractive i might make it seem; my take on the whole sorry mess of distributions today is here: http://www.linuxandmain.com/modules.php?name=Newsfile=articlesid=62 i really do think that distributions are too much interested in the next quarter, and not interested enough in what brung 'em to the dance in the first place. To summarize your essay: Caldera, the Linux distro you a. love to hate or b. hate to love. Some observations: eDesk 2.4 used (in my case, uses) GRUB. I've never had any problems using it once I figured out the syntax and the screwy command for reinstalling it after a rogue distro shoves its bootloader into the MBR. SuSE. Corporate motto: ve haf vays to make you install Linux. Actually, SuSE 8 has come a long way from their first hilarious attempt at auto-installation with 6.3. Maybe they'll replace their geecko with a new logo - Tux wearing a Pickelhaube (spiked helmit.) -- Leon A. Goldstein Powered by Caldera Linux 2.4 System 5WV271 ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: AbiWord crashes when opened by user
Iraj Medifar wrote: I just upgraded abiword to abiword-1.0.1-SuSE.jeo.1 on my suse8 machine.There was no problem with the download or intallation of the rpm. However, after the upgrade, I can only open the application as root. It crashes immediately when I open it as user, giving a segmentation error. Would someone know how I can fix this? I dloaded the same RPM, converted it to Debian with alien, and installed it in Libranet 2. It works perfectly with KDE 2.2.2. You did not indicate what windows manager you are using. I am assuming you use KDE. Try another one e.g. IceWM. -- Leon A. Goldstein Powered by Libranet 1.9.1 Debian Linux System 5151 ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: a crackpot idea i had
Collins Richey wrote inter alia: [ snips ] On Sun, 12 May 2002 23:01:57 -0400 dep wrote: hey, gang! y'know what the world needs? yet another linux distribution! i put forth the opinion that caldera edesktop was for its time the best linux distribution from anyone ever. and fact is, the distro i want to be running is caldera 2.4 upgraded to the current century. Dep, Not that I want to pee on your cornflakes, but you must be smoking pretty good weed to come up with that idea! I'm smoking McClelland's No. 24 Virginia at the moment, and find Dep's proposal reasonable. I am using a basically unmodified eDesk 2.4 on one of my boxes. All it does is word processing and internet/e-mail. And it does these tasks more efficiently and reliably than other more advanced distro's. -- Leon A. Goldstein Powered by Libranet 1.9.1 Debian Linux System 5151 ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Contributing to the site - WP8 experiences
Anita Lewis wrote inter alia: While I was looking for answers I was led to the sxs site and saw the docs on WP8 there. I didn't see the answers to my problems, but found them later on a corel newsgroup. That is why you did not find a how-to for installing WP8 (download or Personal edition) on the SxS site. Problems with installing WP8 result from the ommission of some support libraries that are now obsolete. Only SuSE seems interested in supporting WP8, and has provided a WP8 compatibility package group in its releases. Each new distribution requires now a different fix for WP8 to run. The fix sometimes is posted on the distribution's web site, e.g. Mandrake, but it usually takes some effort to find it. I have posted a detailed how-to for installing both WP8 and WP8.1 in Libranet (my present prefered distro) on that distro's website. http://www.libranet.com/support/view.cgi?item=WP8Libranet2.html Libranet promises to include a WP8 Compatibility Group in their next release, so the need for this elaborate sort of crutch will go away. In the mean time I'd suggest people who like WP8 stick with distributions that let it install without having to leap through fiery hoops. -- Leon A. Goldstein Powered by Libranet 1.9.1 Debian Linux System 5151 ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Libranet and Debian
Harry G wrote: Has anyone out there who knows Debian tried Libranet? www.libranet.com I was wondering if it would be a good distro to use. I am currently using Suse, but I go crazy with downloading missing libs everytime I want to install an RPM, and I hear apt-get in Debian is great, but a pain to install. Since I have a business to run, my time is not very free to learn everything from scratch about Debian. Or am I wrong? After fooling around with Corel Linux, I tried Linux 1.9.0 a year ago, then went to 1.9.1 which I am still using. I have been testing 2.0 on my lab rat for a few weeks. I don't know what you mean by apt-get is a pain to install. Apt-get simply examines your database, then collects everything you need to install a particular Debian package. If you are actually referring to the reputed complexity of installing a Debian, then the only pain is having an understanding of Linux partitioning. The partitioning utility with Libranet will either do a basic default install, if you have no other OS other than windows on your hardware, or allow you to do a manual partitioning. A little bit of practice will make this fairly straight forward, or you can cheat like I do and use Caldera's LIZARD to partition. Libranet will then happily recognize your prepared partitions and mount and format them. Libranet also offers a selection of the package groups you need to complete the installation. Libranet also provides the needed packages for RPM support. All you need to do is create /var/lib/rpm directory and run rpm --initdb. You can then install apps like Applix 5.0 without having to convert everything to Debian packages. Libranet 2.0 left out kpackage, but you can download and install it easily enough. As previously noted, there are a few other bugs, but you can get the fixes for them now on the Libranet tech support knowledge base. One thing I like about Libranet is that it is very snappy and runs very nicely even on older, slower systems. -- Leon A. Goldstein Powered by Caldera Linux 2.4 System 5WV271 ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Libranet and Debian
Harry G wrote: I don't know what you mean by apt-get is a pain to install. No, I meant installing RPM's can be a pain, and that apt-get was very nice. Forgive me if I am not being clear. It is the day after St. Patricks day and the brain cells don't grow back as fast as they used to. If it is feasible, I highly recommend getting a lab rat system to play with. There are plenty of AMD K6-2 boxes going cheap, and I can assure you that Libranet runs quite nicely with a 350 mHz CPU. You can get a functional install on a 2 gb Hd, and these you can pick up for a song at flea markets and mom and pop computer shops that usually have a pile of junk parts they are happy to unload. If nothing else, you can slave another drive to your existing HD. Use CLOS to boot it. CLOS does not like playing second fiddle to other OS' bootloaders. With a lab rat you can play with a new distro without fear of screwing up your working CLOS distro. Debian will grow on you, but it will take some time to get the hang of it. -- Leon A. Goldstein Powered by Caldera Linux 2.4 System 5WV271 ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: caldera 3.1.1
Ken Moffat wrote: Seems a little sparse to me, but I've been using libranet and elx, which have even the kitchen sink included. Libranet is loaded with window managers. Kde only in 3.1.1? No mozilla/galeon (a must have for me) and Netscape 4.77 (I guess that's stable but I prefer v6). Elx is very up to date. I guess it's beta but it works ok for a home desktop, although it install about 3 megs on the full install, whereas caldera is down about 2, I think. I believe there are other window managers on the supplemental CD. I read that the commercial package has several supplemental CD's. I have Caldera 3.1 and the supplemental CD for it installed Gnome, IceWM and all manner of stuff. I am watching the reports on Caldera 3.1.1 I have the beta installed. I have noticed that the KDE 2.2.1 on the beta is a bit unstable - after working fine for a while, the part on the task manager where minimized apps go no longer indicates what is down there. A similar problem occured with Caldera 3.1 after I installed the Caldera KDE 2.2.1 package. At the moment, I am putting aside some mad money in anticipation of buying 3.1.1. I have an number of Linuces on my boxes, but the ones I use (Caldera 2.4, Libranet) are the ones I pay for. I don't have money to splurge on Linux distro's (retired and partly disabled after 20 years in the US Army) but I am willing to pay good money for good products, to help keep the company alive. I have been working too with Libranet 2.0 There is a how-to for installing WP8/WP8.1 I wrote now on the Libranet KB. It is going to be revised. If you are going to install WP8.1 without additional libs, run ldconfig after installing the Debs, not before as it says. Printer set up with CUPS is a bit tricky - I'm fine tuning that part of the how-to now. -- Leon A. Goldstein Powered by Libranet 1.9.1 Debian Linux System 5151 ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Libranet 2.0 Debian
Libranet 2.0 is now shipping. This is a Debian worth trying. Installation from the two CD's took exactly one hour on a Celeron 850 box with an ATA100 HD. Detection and configuration of mouse and video card was automatic and correct. The monitor was set to a very conservative default and consequently I could not get anything above 640X480 until I edited the scan rates. It also detected the IDE burner and set up SCSI emulation. You can also set up a network or dial-up during the install. The provided installation note is a bit sparse, and would probably not provide a newbie much comfort. Libranet is easy to install if you know the mechanics of partitioning, but a neophyte will need some help. Although the new Libranet's semi-automatic installation greatly simplifies installation, I suspect Libranet deliberately distances itself from the promise of a painless fully automatic install, leaving that niche for the yet to appear Xandros, heir to the late and unlamented Corel Linux. (It remains to be seen if Xandros can succeed where Corel and Progeny failed in sustaining a Debian for the newbie.) Libranet 2.0 comes with 2.4.16 kernel, KDE 2.2.2 (as well as Gnome) It installs Reiser FS as default. If you are installing Libranet 2.0 on a multi boot system and do not want Libranet to take over booting, you can create a boot floppy before Libranet reboots to finish its installation. Otherwise, you need to edit your LILO or GRUB beforehand so you can reboot into it. I use GRUB on my boxes, and simply add a chainloader line for other Linuces. Libranet now uses GRUB too, but LILO is still there if you want to use it instead. Libranet 2.0 does not have Kpackage. This was a bit of a nuisance because I find it useful for examining packages (Deb and RPM; Libranet supports both). It does provide Gnome package, but warns not to use it for installation or removal of packages. I had a bit of a problem with Libranet's own package manager until I figured out it was looking in my CD-RW (slave) rather than the CDROM for packages. I have installed Kpackage 2.2.2-5 and it works fine with Debs, but is a bit unreliable with RPM's. Another irritation was leaving out libc5, so WP8 users are out of luck. However, WP8.1 (the full version that came with Corel Linux deluxe) can install since it has its own libs.. I have posted an interim how-to to the slowly dying Corel WP8/Linux news group, I have found the libs needed to get WP8 to run, and will post a new how-to to the SxS site later when I have finished monkeying around the WP8 personal and download versions installation as well as printing, which is now with CUPS. For $50 ($30 if you bought an earlier release) plus postage you get a very slick Debian. There are a few rough edges, but they are manageable. It boots up faster than any other Linux I have experienced, and KDE 2.2.2 also starts fast. This is an excellent distribution for an RPM'er who wants to give Debian a try. -- Leon A. Goldstein Powered by Caldera Linux 2.4 System 5WV271 ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
