Re: other LyX books at lulu (Re: Self-publishing with LyX)

2007-09-08 Thread Graham Smith
I bought the copy on publishing for LULU (I didn't realise there were 
two other options)


The style is very different to Alan's book, with detailed hand holding 
instructions on installing Lyx, Gimp etc.more screen grabs, and step by 
step menu paths


The focus on Windows is appropriate because the feel of the book is that 
it is written to encourage people who have never used anything other 
than Windows/Word to have a go AND take you by the hand every step of 
the way.


Graham



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Today, I search lulu for Alan's book (so I could send the 
http://www.lulu.com/content/1085870 link to a list I am on).


And I found a few other books too:

http://www.lulu.com/content/1165817
http://www.lulu.com/content/1097620
http://www.lulu.com/content/983754

Has anyone here read any of those?

I don't recall them mentioned on this list.


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Re: other LyX books at lulu (Re: Self-publishing with LyX)

2007-09-08 Thread Graham Smith
Mmmm, yes the review does sound a bit unlikely, but I have downloaded 
the book any way to have a look at it.


Graham

Nicolás wrote:
I have not taken a look at these books, so I do not know if they are 
good or not. I just found funny the review for this book:

http://www.lulu.com/content/1165817

It smells a little bit fake to me, do not you agree? According to the 
review, the son installed LyX, learnt to use it, and converted his 
MS-Word-based PhD thesis into a LyX document in one night! Impressive!


Cheers,
Nicolás

Graham Smith wrote:
I bought the copy on publishing for LULU (I didn't realise there were 
two other options)


The style is very different to Alan's book, with detailed hand 
holding instructions on installing Lyx, Gimp etc.more screen grabs, 
and step by step menu paths


The focus on Windows is appropriate because the feel of the book is 
that it is written to encourage people who have never used anything 
other than Windows/Word to have a go AND take you by the hand every 
step of the way.


Graham



Jeremy C. Reed wrote:
Today, I search lulu for Alan's book (so I could send the 
http://www.lulu.com/content/1085870 link to a list I am on).


And I found a few other books too:

http://www.lulu.com/content/1165817
http://www.lulu.com/content/1097620
http://www.lulu.com/content/983754

Has anyone here read any of those?

I don't recall them mentioned on this list.


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Re: other LyX books at lulu (Re: Self-publishing with LyX)

2007-09-08 Thread Graham Smith

These three books would seem to be the same book.

I bought the"Self Publishing on LULU" book a few weeks ago, and have 
just bought the "Got Lyx? It does writing good" (whatever that means) as 
it has a sub title on writing research papers etc.


However, the latter book is just the former book with the chapters on 
designing a cover and publishing on LULU omitted.  I was rather hoping 
for more on citations, inserting equations, and features specific to 
writing up research.


I assume the Amazon version will be identical to the LULU version but 
with an Amazon chapter.


I still think they are useful books for their intended market.

Graham

Jeremy C. Reed wrote:
Today, I search lulu for Alan's book (so I could send the 
http://www.lulu.com/content/1085870 link to a list I am on).


And I found a few other books too:

http://www.lulu.com/content/1165817
http://www.lulu.com/content/1097620
http://www.lulu.com/content/983754

Has anyone here read any of those?

I don't recall them mentioned on this list.


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Just a test - is lyx alive

2007-09-10 Thread Graham Smith
Just testing as I haven't had a mesage for a couple of days and list is 
usually very active.


Sorry for any annoyance.

Graham

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Export as odt - doesn't seem to work

2007-11-09 Thread Graham Smith
I have just installed 1.5.2 on WINXPpro and trying to export my lyx doc 
as an OpenOffice doc file appears to do nothing.


Some older messages here suggest that with earlier version you needed to 
change the export extension to odt (in preferences) but that is correct 
in this latest version.


As I am very new to this, I suspect I am just doing something wrong. The 
doc I am trying to export is only 20 pages, but with many figures and 
cross references.


I would appreciate any help.

Many thanks,

Graham

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Re: Export as odt - doesn't seem to work

2007-11-09 Thread Graham Smith
Bad form to reply to my own message, but I should add that the status 
bar suggests that the coversion is happening with the file apparantly 
being converted to tex and then oolatex being executed to create the odt 
file, its just the converted file doesn't appear anywhere.


Graham Smith wrote:
I have just installed 1.5.2 on WINXPpro and trying to export my lyx doc 
as an OpenOffice doc file appears to do nothing.


Some older messages here suggest that with earlier version you needed to 
change the export extension to odt (in preferences) but that is correct 
in this latest version.


As I am very new to this, I suspect I am just doing something wrong. The 
doc I am trying to export is only 20 pages, but with many figures and 
cross references.


I would appreciate any help.

Many thanks,

Graham



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Re: Export as odt - doesn't seem to work

2007-11-09 Thread Graham Smith
Yes, so I have found, my initial searches didn't find any of the more 
recent messages, but since then I discovered that there seems to be a 
problem.


I have been looking at other approaches export to PDF and then 
converting the PDF to Word, but this is a bit a hassle.


I will have a go at running oolatex manually

Thanks,

Graahm



Richard Heck wrote:

Graham Smith wrote:
Bad form to reply to my own message, but I should add that the status 
bar suggests that the coversion is happening with the file apparantly 
being converted to tex and then oolatex being executed to create the 
odt file, its just the converted file doesn't appear anywhere.
Yes, that is what is supposed to happen. But if you search the mailing 
list, you'll see that there are lots of problem with oolatex on Windows. 
I don't know what the status of that is. Some people have had success 
but it's often been a bit of work. What I'd suggest is that you try 
exporting to LaTeX and then running oolatex manually. That'll at least 
give you lots of error messages if something is going wrong.


rh


Graham Smith wrote:
I have just installed 1.5.2 on WINXPpro and trying to export my lyx 
doc as an OpenOffice doc file appears to do nothing.


Some older messages here suggest that with earlier version you needed 
to change the export extension to odt (in preferences) but that is 
correct in this latest version.


As I am very new to this, I suspect I am just doing something wrong. 
The doc I am trying to export is only 20 pages, but with many figures 
and cross references.


I would appreciate any help.

Many thanks,

Graham








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Re: Export as odt - doesn't seem to work

2007-11-09 Thread Graham Smith
Yes, Latex2RTF seems to work well, rather better with Word than OOo, as 
OOo seems to include extra text for cross references. But certainly a 
long way towards a solution.


Thanks again,

Graham

Richard Heck wrote:

Graham Smith wrote:
Yes, so I have found, my initial searches didn't find any of the more 
recent messages, but since then I discovered that there seems to be a 
problem.


I have been looking at other approaches export to PDF and then 
converting the PDF to Word, but this is a bit a hassle.


I will have a go at running oolatex manually.


If you can get it to work manually, then it should also work from LyX.

Another possibility is Latex2RTF, which you can find on the web. LyX is 
also capable of using that, I think.


rh


Thanks,

Graahm



Richard Heck wrote:

Graham Smith wrote:
Bad form to reply to my own message, but I should add that the 
status bar suggests that the coversion is happening with the file 
apparantly being converted to tex and then oolatex being executed to 
create the odt file, its just the converted file doesn't appear 
anywhere.
Yes, that is what is supposed to happen. But if you search the 
mailing list, you'll see that there are lots of problem with oolatex 
on Windows. I don't know what the status of that is. Some people have 
had success but it's often been a bit of work. What I'd suggest is 
that you try exporting to LaTeX and then running oolatex manually. 
That'll at least give you lots of error messages if something is 
going wrong.


rh


Graham Smith wrote:
I have just installed 1.5.2 on WINXPpro and trying to export my lyx 
doc as an OpenOffice doc file appears to do nothing.


Some older messages here suggest that with earlier version you 
needed to change the export extension to odt (in preferences) but 
that is correct in this latest version.


As I am very new to this, I suspect I am just doing something 
wrong. The doc I am trying to export is only 20 pages, but with 
many figures and cross references.


I would appreciate any help.

Many thanks,

Graham













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Reference list appears in middle of text

2007-11-09 Thread Graham Smith
I am using the article (paper) Class with several figures and 22 pages 
long, all was fine until I added a BibTex reference list (with only one 
reference)


Now the final paragraph and a half of text appears "after" the reference 
list.


Is there something obvious I am doing wrong

WINXPPro Lyx 1.5.2

many thanks,

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Re: Reference list appears in middle of text

2007-11-09 Thread Graham Smith

Mirko,

Thanks, but I think I may have solved this. The last item in the 
document (other than the code for the reference list) was a figure set 
to "default" placement, By changing this to the "here if possible" 
option, the text that was being moved from above the figure to below the 
reference list, now seems to be staying where it should be.


Graham



Mirko Briemle wrote:

Graham,

I do this to accomplish having the reference list at the end:
1. remove references and list
2. go to the very end of the lyx document
3. if you want the references appear on a separate page - instert -> Formatting 
-> Page
Break
4. Below the Page Break: insert -> List/TOC -> Bibtext/Bibliography
5. Add you reference(s) in your text again.

I hope that helps,
Mirko

 


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Graham Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

I am using the article (paper) Class with several figures and 22 pages 
long, all was fine until I added a BibTex reference list (with only one 
reference)


Now the final paragraph and a half of text appears "after" the reference 
list.


Is there something obvious I am doing wrong

WINXPPro Lyx 1.5.2

many thanks,

Graham




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How to I add a bibtex bibliographic style to lyx

2007-11-11 Thread Graham Smith
I know this has to be explained in the help documentation, but I can't 
find it.


I have downloaded the apalike citation style, using the Miktex Package 
Manager. I have reconfigured and restarted Lyx and rather naively, it 
seems, expected apalike to appear in the list of Bibtex bibliography 
citation style options.


According to the Miktex package manager the apalike package has been 
downloaded in /uncategorized, but I cannot find this folder in the 
MikTex directory.


I would appreciate some help, but happy to be pointed to the appropriate 
help file.


Thanks,

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Re: How to I add a bibtex bibliographic style to lyx

2007-11-11 Thread Graham Smith

Roberto,

Thanks, I didn't know you needed to do this, I've now done it, but it 
has made no difference :-(


Graham

Roberto Gorjão wrote:

Olá Graham,

It seems that you may not have updated the format files or refreshed the
file name database at Miktex Options or Miktex settings. After any
install, thats a required procedure.

I hope that helps!

Cumprimentos,

Roberto

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On Sun, November 11, 2007 11:16 am, Graham Smith wrote:

I know this has to be explained in the help documentation, but I can't
find it.

I have downloaded the apalike citation style, using the Miktex Package
Manager. I have reconfigured and restarted Lyx and rather naively, it
seems, expected apalike to appear in the list of Bibtex bibliography
citation style options.

According to the Miktex package manager the apalike package has been
downloaded in /uncategorized, but I cannot find this folder in the
MikTex directory.

I would appreciate some help, but happy to be pointed to the appropriate
help file.

Thanks,

Graham




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Re: How to I add a bibtex bibliographic style to lyx

2007-11-11 Thread Graham Smith

Roberto,

Thanks again, but I had already run reconfigure, and the instructions 
which seem focussed on Linux, don't help a lot on Windows :-(


Hopefully, as you suggest, some one else will pick this up, but thanks 
again for your help.


Graham

Roberto Gorjão wrote:

Graham,

Then maybe you need to do the same at LyX's side. See point 2.2 of the
UserGuide, and choose Tolls->Reconfigure.

The actual directions about how to install new packages are in the
Help->Costumization document, at point 5.1.

If neither of these are of help, then you'll have to wait for one of LyX's
Gurus to answer.

Cumprimentos,

Roberto

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Roberto,

Thanks, I didn't know you needed to do this, I've now done it, but it
has made no difference :-(

Graham

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Olá Graham,






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Re: How to I add a bibtex bibliographic style to lyx

2007-11-11 Thread Graham Smith

Jurgen,

Thanks, that did it :-)

Graham

Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote:

Graham Smith wrote:

I have downloaded the apalike citation style, using the Miktex Package
Manager. I have reconfigured and restarted Lyx and rather naively, it
seems, expected apalike to appear in the list of Bibtex bibliography
citation style options.


To get it in there, you need to run "Rescan" in Tools->TeX Information.

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Adding footnotes in letter (Koma Script) version 2

2007-11-23 Thread Graham Smith
I am trying to add a foot note to the text in the sender name 
environment of the above. Is this this possible? I can add the footnote 
but it doesn't appear as a footer.


Lyx1.5.2 on WInXPPro

Thanks,
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embedding or linking a sound file in a Powerdot PDF

2007-11-28 Thread Graham Smith
Apologies if this is obvious, but is it possible to embed a sound file 
into a PDF when using PowerDot. In the Adobe world this is only 
available as part of Adobe Professional so I understand why it may not 
be possible.


However, I am also struggling to work out how to link to an external 
sound file. regardless of whether the links will work in  a PowerDot 
created PDF, the link options in Lyx (certainly through the menu) seem 
limited to specific file types.


I much appreciate some pointers into how this might be done.

Many thanks,

Graham



Testing

2007-11-28 Thread Graham Smith
Just a test as I have posted a couple of times this week and neither  
have appeared on the list - so I don't suppose this one will either.   
But thought it worth a try.




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Re: embedding or linking a sound file in a Powerdot PDF

2007-11-29 Thread Graham Smith

Steve Litt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> 
> What an ultra-cool idea! I'd love to embed a sound file in each of my Ebooks.
> 
> SteveT
> 
> On Wednesday 28 November 2007 08:09, Graham Smith wrote:
> > Apologies if this is obvious, but is it possible to embed a sound file
> > into a PDF when using PowerDot. In the Adobe world this is only
> > available as part of Adobe Professional so I understand why it may not
> > be possible.

Steve,

Thanks, but its not mine, unfortunately. Maybe someone will 
come up with a solution.

Graham 






Very strange problem with posts - need help

2007-12-02 Thread Graham Smith
I have a strange problem with posts to this group. My posts are appearing in the
Gmane list, but not via my pop3 account that I pick up with Thunderbird.

Replies to my post are getting through to my POP3 account, but not my replies to
these replies, even though again they are appearing in Gmane. Messages posted
via Gmane are getting through to my pop3 account

The spam filters are disabled at my ISP and my posts are not appearing in my
local spam folder.

I know this isn't  a Lyx question, but I am many mailing list user groups and
this is the only one where this is happening. 

Anyone any ideas?

Thanks,

Graham



Re: Very strange problem with posts - need help

2007-12-02 Thread Graham Smith
Manveru <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> 
> I am not sure about that, but I think that this list does not forward your
> own emails to you. I am using gmail, which automagically create threads from
> my sent message and reply to this list.
> 
> Regards,
> M.
> 
> 2007/12/2, Graham Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> >
> > I have a strange problem with posts to this group. My posts are appearing
> > in the
> > Gmane list, but not via my pop3 account that I pick up with Thunderbird.

This is absolutely bizarre, however, your post suggests that the problem may be
a local one as I was able to read your postlocally and then when I went back to
it, it had vanished.

And yes, GMail seems to hide your original post, but this hasn't been a feature
of  Thunderbird and POP3.

Thanks, for the reply, as it may take me a bit closer to sorting out the 
problem.

Graham

BTW I know I have confused this post by bottom posting but Gmane won't allow top
posting.








Re: embedding or linking a sound file in a Powerdot PDF

2007-12-02 Thread Graham Smith
Siegfried MEUNIER-GUTTIN-CLUZEL <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
 
> I've seen in the Beamer documentation that there is a package called 
> multimedia.sty.

Siegfried,

Thanks for this, very useful. Sorry for the delay in responding but strange
things are happening with my mail base and I thought I had replied.

Graham




Re: MiKTeX 2.7

2007-12-18 Thread Graham Smith
Uwe

> I just announced a new version of LyXWinInstaller that comes with MikTeX
> 2.7. So you can play a bit 

I have just used the LyxWinInstallerUpdate, to update 1.5.2, but it
hasn't updated any of the 3rd programs, like MiKTeX 2.7, that come with
the full installer. Is that right. Are these only updated as part of the
full install?

Graham
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Re: MiKTeX 2.7

2007-12-18 Thread Graham Smith

> So I think you must un install any previous version of MiKTeX if you 
> want an update...

Ah thanks, I missed reading this :-(

Graham
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Re: MiKTeX 2.7

2007-12-18 Thread Graham Smith
Uwe,
> 
> Third-party programs are not updated. 
> 
> Beside this, was the update to lyX 1.5.3 successful for you?

Thanks, I am no desperate rush to upgrade, just wondered, and yes the
update appears to have been successful, certainly no immediate or
obvious issues.

Graham
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Re: MiKTeX 2.7

2007-12-18 Thread Graham Smith
Uwe

> > Thanks, I am no desperate rush to upgrade, just wondered,
> 
> You can update your ecisting MikTeX 2.6 installation to get the latest
> LaTeX-packages in any case. 

No done, thanks.

Graham
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Where is Tex documentation on Mac

2008-02-22 Thread Graham Smith
Silly question I know, but I'm new to the Mac and I am trying to find  
the documentation for the Beamer class.


Also how do I install extra classes. This all seemed failry obvious  
with MikTex on Windows but struggling to find my way around the Mac.


Thanks,

Graham







Spell checker on Mac not working

2008-02-22 Thread Graham Smith

I am trying to run the Spell check on Tiger and version 1.5.3 of Lyx.

I get an error

The Spell checker could not be started
Error The file
"/usr/local/lib/aspell-0.60/english" can not be opened for reading.


Now I can't actually find that directory, and I thought Lyx used  
cocoaspell.



Again, maybe my problem is being new to the Mac, but can anyone help  
me sort this out.


A web search suggested that the problem was no dictionaries selected  
in cocoaspell, but the UK English dictionaries are selected.


Many thanks,

Graham






Re: Spell checker on Mac not working

2008-02-22 Thread Graham Smith

Bennet,

Thanks for this, copying the path as described fixed it.

I'm glad it was this simple :-)

Graham

On 22 Feb 2008, at 13:10, Bennett Helm wrote:


On Feb 22, 2008, at 7:29 AM, Graham Smith wrote:


I am trying to run the Spell check on Tiger and version 1.5.3 of Lyx.

I get an error

The Spell checker could not be started
Error The file
"/usr/local/lib/aspell-0.60/english" can not be opened for reading.


Now I can't actually find that directory, and I thought Lyx used  
cocoaspell.


LyX will use CocoAspell if you've properly installed it. The  
instructions were hard to find on the wiki; I've edited things to  
make it clearer:


<http://wiki.lyx.org/Mac/MacSpelling#toc2>

Bennett




Re: Where is Tex documentation on Mac

2008-02-22 Thread Graham Smith


Mmm, this is rather strange, I cannot find a directory called /usr/ 
local/...


Spotlight isn't finding "beameruserguide.pdf"

I did use MacTex to install

Thanks again

Graham



On 22 Feb 2008, at 13:13, Bennett Helm wrote:


On Feb 22, 2008, at 3:31 AM, Graham Smith wrote:

Silly question I know, but I'm new to the Mac and I am trying to  
find the documentation for the Beamer class.


It depends on how you installed TeX. If you used MacTeX, it can be  
found at:


/usr/local/texlive/2007/texmf-dist/doc/latex/beamer/doc/ 
beameruserguide.pdf


Also how do I install extra classes. This all seemed failry  
obvious with MikTex on Windows but struggling to find my way  
around the Mac.


The standard location is ~/Library/texmf/tex/latex. (Note that LyX  
won't recognize extra classes unless you have an  
appropriate .layout file.)


Bennett




Re: Where is Tex documentation on Mac

2008-02-22 Thread Graham Smith

Daniel,

Thanks, I will bear this in mind, but I am still having problems  
finding my way around the Mac file structure


Graham





On 22 Feb 2008, at 16:26, Daniel Lohmann wrote:



On 22.02.2008, at 14:13, Bennett Helm wrote:


On Feb 22, 2008, at 3:31 AM, Graham Smith wrote:

Silly question I know, but I'm new to the Mac and I am trying to  
find the documentation for the Beamer class.


It depends on how you installed TeX. If you used MacTeX, it can be  
found at:


/usr/local/texlive/2007/texmf-dist/doc/latex/beamer/doc/ 
beameruserguide.pdf


Also how do I install extra classes. This all seemed failry  
obvious with MikTex on Windows but struggling to find my way  
around the Mac.


The standard location is ~/Library/texmf/tex/latex. (Note that LyX  
won't recognize extra classes unless you have an  
appropriate .layout file.)



Note that the beamer package contained in TeXLive 2007 is rather  
old. Unfortunately there seems not to be a simple package update  
option, like  in MikTeX. I download the newest versions of beamer/ 
pgf and install them manually. It is not a big thing, though, you  
just have to use the shell to copy some files.



Daniel




Re: Where is Tex documentation on Mac

2008-02-22 Thread Graham Smith

Bjarnþór

Many thanks for this, extremely useful. I am enjoying my new Mac, but  
some things are very different.


Graham


On 22 Feb 2008, at 18:35, Bjarnþór G. Kolbeins wrote:

 In the  FInder choose from the Go menu Go to Folder, In there  
type /usr og any directory you want to go to.
Not all folders are visible int the Finder but it is possible to  
see all folders using this.

Bjarnþór
On 22.2.2008, at 17:30, Graham Smith wrote:


Daniel,

Thanks, I will bear this in mind, but I am still having problems  
finding my way around the Mac file structure


Graham





On 22 Feb 2008, at 16:26, Daniel Lohmann wrote:



On 22.02.2008, at 14:13, Bennett Helm wrote:


On Feb 22, 2008, at 3:31 AM, Graham Smith wrote:

Silly question I know, but I'm new to the Mac and I am trying  
to find the documentation for the Beamer class.


It depends on how you installed TeX. If you used MacTeX, it can  
be found at:


/usr/local/texlive/2007/texmf-dist/doc/latex/beamer/doc/ 
beameruserguide.pdf


Also how do I install extra classes. This all seemed failry  
obvious with MikTex on Windows but struggling to find my way  
around the Mac.


The standard location is ~/Library/texmf/tex/latex. (Note that  
LyX won't recognize extra classes unless you have an  
appropriate .layout file.)



Note that the beamer package contained in TeXLive 2007 is rather  
old. Unfortunately there seems not to be a simple package update  
option, like  in MikTeX. I download the newest versions of beamer/ 
pgf and install them manually. It is not a big thing, though, you  
just have to use the shell to copy some files.



Daniel




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Beamer and article class - have you tried it?

2008-02-22 Thread Graham Smith
I was hoping to use the Beamer class facility to embed a Handout  
(article class) in the same file as the presentation, but the user  
guide recommends against doing this if you are using Lyx.


But also says "you can try"

Does anyone use this facility with Beamer?

Thanks,

Graham




Re: Beamer and article class - have you tried it?

2008-02-23 Thread Graham Smith

Rich,

Having now read the user guide, it looks exactly what I am looking for.

 You can write the handout (article), but within the handout include  
the elements you want in the presentation as well as the speakers  
notes. Sharing the same illustrations and parts of the text with both  
the presentation and handout, as well as text for the presentation  
slides only.


BUT, even though everything is the one file and easily updated in one  
go, only the elements needed for the presentation appear in the final  
presentation, and only the  elements needed in the handout appear, in  
the handout


This would make the annual update of my lectures and handouts so much  
easier, than it is now


However, my lack of experience with Lyx, and even greater lack of  
experience with Latex, means that I can't get it working at the moment.


Graham.

P.S. After rummaging on my bookshelves, I've now confirmed why I  
thought I recognised your name, indeed having flicked through the  
book just now, I feel inspired to re-read it.




On 23 Feb 2008, at 15:07, Rich Shepard wrote:


On Sat, 23 Feb 2008, Graham Smith wrote:

I was hoping to use the Beamer class facility to embed a Handout  
(article
class) in the same file as the presentation, but the user guide  
recommends

against doing this if you are using Lyx.

Does anyone use this facility with Beamer?


Graham,

  No, I've not tried this. The one time I wanted a separate article to
supplement the presentation I did them as separate LyX files.

Rich

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PDF to PowerPoint converter

2008-02-27 Thread Graham Smith
Although, I have found a couple via google does anyone have  
experience of PDF to PowerPoint converters.


I would prefer a Mac or multiplatform option, but Windows, or even  
Linux would do.


Having now been using Beamer for a few days and been very pleased  
with it as a replacement for PowerPoint, I'm now told that I "must"  
provide my students access to PowerPoints of my presentations.  
However, having used Beamer there is no way I am going back to  
PowerPoint.


Apparently, PDFs, do not provide the same support for accessibility  
requirements (SENDA in the UK and section 508 in the US).  I can't  
see how exactly, but thems the rules it seems.


Graham







Re: PDF to PowerPoint converter

2008-02-27 Thread Graham Smith

Siegfried,

Thanks, I have read the document you gave the link to, or at least  
the Acrobat 7 version, and I was using this a guide, assuming it  
would also meet the SENDA requirements as I am in the UK.


But I think the argument revolves around very specialist software for  
very unusual disabilities, that work with PowerPoint but not PDF.  
Having said that, I am struggling to really understand the reasoning,  
and decided to just buy a converter.


But as with all these things it is useful to hear comments form  
people who have tried a bit of software out. Some programs that  
initially look promising often turn out to be less than you had hoped  
for.


Graham


On 27 Feb 2008, at 13:22, Siegfried MEUNIER-GUTTIN-CLUZEL wrote:


Another solution is to make de PDF accessible, see this document :
http://www.adobe.com/fr/enterprise/accessibility/pdfs/acro6_pg_ue.pdf

I don't know if Powerpoints are by themself more accessible than  
PDF. I think that the above document can give arguments to show  
that a given document conforms to the accessibilty rules.
With Adobe Reader, you can verify if your document can pose  
problems. I checked a PDF presentation produced with the Beamer  
package (an LyX), and yes, there is a problem due to the fact that  
the structure of the document is complex. I think it's the TOC  
which is present on every slide.


Hope it helps.

Siegfried.




Re: PDF to PowerPoint converter

2008-02-27 Thread Graham Smith

Alan,

Maybe not surprisingly, I have my own views on the logic behind this,  
but as I have subsequently posted, it seems to relate to third party  
software being able to work with PPT but not PDF.


In fact from my reading, it seems that most of the really specialist  
software uses HTML (so your solution not only seems the simplest, but  
also the best),  but that is not what I have been told to do, I have  
been told to provide PPTs.


However, and to move off topic even further, having now been reading  
about the accessibility requirements, I doubt if a single PPT file  
anywhere on our VLE complies.


So looking for the easy way out, a PDF to PPT convertor still seems  
the "easiest" option.


Graham


On 27 Feb 2008, at 15:20, Alan Isaac wrote:


On the face of it, this is totally stupid.
One can easily create non-compliant Ppt
or compliant PDF.

But there is a simpler solution: HTML.
Give a lyx to HTML converter a try.
Post your HTML along with your PDFs.
Voilá: compliance.
(Or anyway, as much as the Ppt will have.)

IANAL,
Alan Isaac







Re: PDF to PowerPoint converter

2008-02-27 Thread Graham Smith
Well, as I said in my reply to Alan, I would be surprised if any of  
our PPTs are compliant.


I admit I have only just started looking at this in any depth because  
it only cropped up when I casually mentioned that I was using PDFs.  
Ironically to increase accessibility (in the general sense) as I have  
students using Macs and Linux and PDFs seem a more universal option.


I have just spoken to Adobe and the Linux, Mac and Windows version of  
Acrobat Reader have the accessibility features. There are PDF  
specialist viewers available for Linux and Windows, but not the Mac  
apparently, which seems odd.


However, it seems that the main file format for accessibility is  
HTML, but that isn't being promoted locally.


I fully agree that just converting a PDF to PPT will make it no more  
accessible, except for the argument that there are specialist  
accessibility viewers for PPTs, but not for PDFs. But Adobe don't  
seem to agree with this.


I am now completely confused by it all, but cannot believe that a PDF/ 
HTML solution can be less accessible than PPT. But currently I am  
under pressure to go back to producing PPTs.


Graham


On 27 Feb 2008, at 16:13, Siegfried MEUNIER-GUTTIN-CLUZEL wrote:

I agree completly with Alan : most of the PowerPoints aren't  
compliant ( PowerPoint don't enforce the tagging of the images ...).
I understand that a converter can be a solution to convince  
somebody, but it is a false one because I doubt the converted PDF  
will be more compliant than the original one.
My point is : this accessibility issue is a way to force a  
commercial software upon us. Don't use LaTeX or PDF, they aren't  
accessible !
We must find a way to create compliant documents with our tools  
(LyX, LaTeX, PDF ...).

I don't think it is so difficult.

Siegfried.




Re: PDF to PowerPoint converter

2008-02-27 Thread Graham Smith

Andre,


A tactic as you suggest would not work as one of  the requirement is  
for the reader to have control over the colours of text and  
background. Something they have with PDFs (certainly using Acrobat  
Reader you can)


I  think part of the problem is that people don't understand why I  
just don't use PowerPoint like everyone else.


Graham



On 27 Feb 2008, at 18:05, Andre Poenitz wrote:


On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 09:34:44AM +0000, Graham Smith wrote:
Although, I have found a couple via google does anyone have  
experience of

PDF to PowerPoint converters.

I would prefer a Mac or multiplatform option, but Windows, or even  
Linux

would do.

Having now been using Beamer for a few days and been very pleased  
with it
as a replacement for PowerPoint, I'm now told that I "must"  
provide my
students access to PowerPoints of my presentations. However,  
having used

Beamer there is no way I am going back to PowerPoint.


I usually responded to such requirements by producing bitmap  
version of

the ps/pdf document in question and include them in an otherwise empty
doc. This gives really ugly results, is pretty unusable, but conforms
to the rules. When I offered the original .pdf as alternative, guess
what suddenly became "acceptable"...

Lucky me does not have to produce paperwork anymore...


Apparently, PDFs, do not provide the same support for accessibility
requirements (SENDA in the UK and section 508 in the US).  I can't  
see how

exactly, but thems the rules it seems.


Following rules by the letter usually does not give the intended  
result.

People tend to learn that quickly ;-)

Andre'




Re: PDF to PowerPoint converter

2008-02-28 Thread Graham Smith


Although now way off topic, it may of some interest to share some of  
my findings on this.


Although I have been looking at several places. Two web sites that  
are actually useful are:


http://www.webaim.org/

AND

http://www.open.ac.uk/inclusiveteaching/index.php

The conclusions from all my reading is that only HTML fully qualifies  
as accessible, because it provides all the features (if properly  
created) that are needed by on screen viewers.


PDFs CAN  be fully accessible, because you can add the tags and the  
alternate text needed to direct text flow and provide alternate text  
for images ( the latter you can also do in PowerPoint).


It seems that while HTML has the edge over PDF, they are very close.

PowerPoints are NOT considered "fully" accessible,because they lack  
essential features.  The advice is to convert PowerPoints to HTML,  
and provide these as alternatives to your PowerPoint,


Additionally the Webaim site recommend writing your presentations in  
HTML to begin with and suggest Opera Show or S5, which work like  
PowerPoint but designed to use HTML.  Thus making them in the format  
required for uploading.


http://meyerweb.com/eric/tools/s5/

Opera Show is built into the Opera Browser, the browser I used before  
switching to FireFox, and an Opera Show tutorial is at:


http://www.opera.com/support/tutorials/operashow/

Both are free.

What I need to do now, see whether Lyx/Beamer/Latex will allow me to  
create HTML files with the appropriate tags and alternate text for  
figures that are needed.


As I say not really a lyx issue, but it may be of interest to some.

Graham

On 27 Feb 2008, at 09:34, Graham Smith wrote:

Although, I have found a couple via google does anyone have  
experience of PDF to PowerPoint converters.


I would prefer a Mac or multiplatform option, but Windows, or even  
Linux would do.


Having now been using Beamer for a few days and been very pleased  
with it as a replacement for PowerPoint, I'm now told that I "must"  
provide my students access to PowerPoints of my presentations.  
However, having used Beamer there is no way I am going back to  
PowerPoint.


Apparently, PDFs, do not provide the same support for accessibility  
requirements (SENDA in the UK and section 508 in the US).  I can't  
see how exactly, but thems the rules it seems.


Graham









Re: PDF to PowerPoint converter

2008-02-28 Thread Graham Smith

Helge




A tactic as you suggest would not work as one of  the requirement  
is for the reader to have control over the colours of text and  
background.

That is the _idea_, but do they demand "powerpoints with
reader control of colors" from you, or do they just
demand "powerpoints"?

As far as I can make out the requirement is just PowerPoints


Something they have with PDFs (certainly using Acrobat Reader you  
can)


I  think part of the problem is that people don't understand why I  
just don't use PowerPoint like everyone else.

Which is why it might be a good idea to provide
useless powerpoints in order to comply


Well, that is where this thread began with my question about a PDF to  
PowerPoint converter. The plan was to carry on with the PDFs, but  
also supply a PowerPoint, without me needing to make any effort with  
the PowerPoint production



Working to change the system may be possible too,
although that will usually take time. Where I work,
some people now distributes PDFs because they are
finally starting to see that "not everybody have word".


This is my preferred option.

Graham



Including alternate text for figures on HTML export

2008-02-28 Thread Graham Smith
Before exporting from Lyx to HTML, is there a way of providing  
alternate text for the figures.


I see in the graphics dialog box there is space for for some Latex  
code and I am hoping this might provide the mechanism.


Thanks,

Graham






Re: Including alternate text for figures on HTML export

2008-03-01 Thread Graham Smith
Given the lack of response I assume there is no easy answer to this,  
however, with help elsewhere it seems that this can be done with  
tex4ht which is part of the Mactex distribution.


This is done with one of the following commands

1\Picture[replacement-for-textual-browser]{file-name attributes}
2	\Picture+[replacement-for-text-browsers]{file-name attributes} 
content\EndPicture
3	\Picture*[replacement-for-text-browsers]{file-name attributes} 
content\EndPicture


This leads me to additional questions.

1. what program does lyx use for the HTML conversion (on the Mac), I  
presume it tells me on the wiki somewhere but I can't find it.


2. I have tried several ways of using command 1 above to try and add  
the alt text into the graphics latex options, but get compile errors.  
the commands are obviously meant for tex4ht, but I thought I would  
give it a try..


3. Assuming tex4ht isn't one of the two HTML export options in Lyx,  
can I add it as an export option menu item.


Thanks,

Graham


On 28 Feb 2008, at 14:47, Graham Smith wrote:

Before exporting from Lyx to HTML, is there a way of providing  
alternate text for the figures.


I see in the graphics dialog box there is space for for some Latex  
code and I am hoping this might provide the mechanism.


Thanks,

Graham








Re: Including alternate text for figures on HTML export

2008-03-01 Thread Graham Smith
OK, sorry about all these posts, but after rooting around I see that  
Lyx is using tex4ht, so it seems what I need help with is how to add  
the code into the lyx document so it adds the alt text when exporting  
to html.


Thanks.

Graham

On 1 Mar 2008, at 15:46, Graham Smith wrote:

Given the lack of response I assume there is no easy answer to  
this, however, with help elsewhere it seems that this can be done  
with tex4ht which is part of the Mactex distribution.


This is done with one of the following commands

1\Picture[replaOkcement-for-textual-browser]{file-name attributes}
2	\Picture+[replacement-for-text-browsers]{file-name attributes} 
content\EndPicture
3	\Picture*[replacement-for-text-browsers]{file-name attributes} 
content\EndPicture


This leads me to additional questions.

1. what program does lyx use for the HTML conversion (on the Mac),  
I presume it tells me on the wiki somewhere but I can't find it.


2. I have tried several ways of using command 1 above to try and  
add the alt text into the graphics latex options, but get compile  
errors. the commands are obviously meant for tex4ht, but I thought  
I would give it a try..


3. Assuming tex4ht isn't one of the two HTML export options in Lyx,  
can I add it as an export option menu item.


Thanks,

Graham


On 28 Feb 2008, at 14:47, Graham Smith wrote:

Before exporting from Lyx to HTML, is there a way of providing  
alternate text for the figures.


I see in the graphics dialog box there is space for for some Latex  
code and I am hoping this might provide the mechanism.


Thanks,

Graham










Re: Including alternate text for figures on HTML export

2008-03-03 Thread Graham Smith

Günter

Thanks, I was assuming it would go in the latex code box for the  
graphic, but creating  a latex doc and importing it seems a good idea.


Graham



On 3 Mar 2008, at 08:12, G. Milde wrote:


On  1.03.08, Graham Smith wrote:
OK, sorry about all these posts, but after rooting around I see  
that Lyx
is using tex4ht, so it seems what I need help with is how to add  
the code

into the lyx document so it adds the alt text when exporting to html.


Actually, LyX can work with several HTML exporters (and you can  
configure

this under Tools>Settings).

I assume you will need ERT (i.e. raw LaTeX) for the special  
commands and
experiment with the placing. Checking the "source preview" option  
under
View will give you instant feedback. Another option would be to  
create a
small sample LaTeX document with the correct syntax and then import  
this

into LyX -- if all goes well, the ERT will occure at the right place.

Good luck

Günter




error messages with Tables of Contents

2006-12-30 Thread Graham Smith
Hello,

Possibly premature with this question as I am still learning the
basics of the basics, but trying to generate a TOC (Lyx 1.4.3-5 on WINXPPro) it 
seems OK until I try to preview in PS
Ctrl+T.

I then get errors:

paragraph ended before [EMAIL PROTECTED] was complete

expanded in the lower box to say

I suspect you've forgotten a `}', causing me to apply this
control sequence to too much text. How can we recover?
My plan is to forget the whole thing and hope for the best.

AND

Argument of [EMAIL PROTECTED] has an extra }.

expanded below to say

\end{document}
   
I've run across a `}' that doesn't seem to match anything.
For example, `\def\a#1{...}' and `\a}' would produce
this error. If you simply proceed now, the `\par' that
I've just inserted will cause me to report a runaway
argument that might be the root of the problem. But if
your `}' was spurious, just type `2' and it will go away.


Now I have only been using Lyx/Latex for a day so it hopefully has an
obvious solution.

I first had the problem with the Steve Litt tutorial, but I also have
it with a fresh file with only three or four headings.

Hopefully someone can point out where I am going wrong.

Many thanks.

  

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Re: error messages with Tables of Contents

2006-12-30 Thread Graham Smith
On Saturday, December 30, 2006, 3:53:13 PM, I wrote:

> Possibly premature with this question as I am still learning the
> basics of the basics, but trying to generate a TOC (Lyx 1.4.3-5 on
> WINXPPro) it seems OK until I try to preview in PS
> Ctrl+T.

It seems that, although I thought I was following the instructions, I
was placing the TOC command in the wrong place. Its now working.


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Lyx server and Jabref on windows

2007-01-01 Thread Graham Smith
Hello,

I have Lyx 1.4.3-5 (Windows) and Jabref 2.2b.

Trying to push a citation from jabref gives me an error to verify that
Lyx is ruuning and that the lyxpipe is valid C:\Documents and 
Settings\Graham\lyx\

 In lyx I have added the path
 
 C:\Documents and Settings\Graham\lyx\.lyxpipe

 in the  lyx preferences and reconfigured and restarted lyx.

 As I understand the documentation this should create an lyxpipe.in file,
 but no file is created.

 I have tried several different path options, eg creating the full
 file name etc, but cannot get it to work.

 Can anyone suggest what I should be doing.

 Many thanks

 Graham



Re: Lyx server and Jabref on windows

2007-01-01 Thread Graham Smith
Christian,

Monday, January 1, 2007, 6:57:25 PM, you wrote:

> I had the same problem on a Mac.

> See http://wiki.lyx.org/Mac/Mac#toc10 for useful hints. They are meant
> for Mac, but might be applicable for Windows, too.

> A likely source of error are blanks in the path name. For example, 
> "C:\Documents and Settings\..." might not be a good option. Did you try
> a new path with no blanks?

Thanks, I had found that link and tried to follow the advice there.

I also tried a path without spaces, but it didn't help.

The other paths, in both lyx and Jabref have spaces, so I suspect that
isn't the problem.

Thanks again.

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Re: Lyx server and Jabref on windows

2007-01-01 Thread Graham Smith
Georg,

Monday, January 1, 2007, 7:20:43 PM, you wrote:

> Am Montag, 1. Januar 2007 19:48 schrieb Graham Smith:

>> I have Lyx 1.4.3-5 (Windows) and Jabref 2.2b.
>> 
>> Trying to push a citation from jabref gives me an error to verify that
>> Lyx is ruuning and that the lyxpipe is valid C:\Documents and 
> Settings\Graham\lyx\

> You cannot use this feature on windows, since the pipe is implemented using
> UNIX specific functions that are not available on windows.

Many thanks, this has caused me a lot of frustration trying to get
it to work. So the explanation is gratefully received.

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newsletter class

2007-01-11 Thread Graham Smith
Hello,

I have just started using Lyx, and wondered if there was a class for
short newsletters (2 sides or 4 sides of A4)

I assume it is a Class I am looking for, and that Lyx would be
suitable. It doesn't need to be too fancy, but smart and modern and
something that I can type in the text and not spend several days
trying to make it look good, as I did in Word. two column with a
banner headline, logo and contact details. Distributed and PDF
attachment, but with some printed.

BTW to the developers: Lyx looks a brilliant piece of software and I
am really looking forward to learning it.

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Re: word

2007-01-12 Thread Graham Smith
ryma,

Friday, January 12, 2007, 11:53:50 AM, you wrote:

> please i want to generate ".doc" files for word from lyx ones. Is
> it possible and how can i make this?

I will be delighted if someone suggests a better method, but in
Windows, I have generated PDFs from Lyx, and then used AllPdf

http://www.bcltechnologies.com/document/products/allpdf/

to open the PDFs in Word as Doc files. There is a range of software in
Windows for Converting PDF to .Doc, this is only one of them, but
during my brief experimentation it seems to work well.


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Re: Why Lyx->Word?

2007-05-16 Thread Graham Smith
As indeed modern versions of Wordperfect, for the last few version you 
have been able to run in classic view which emulates the DOS version.


Graham

Helge Hafting wrote:

Richard Heck wrote:

Hey, I loved WordPerfect back when you had the blue background and stuff.
  

Note that LyX has color preferences - so you can get that
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positioning tables inside float

2010-08-27 Thread Graham Smith
I am trying to align a table inside a float, so it sits in the centre of 
the page. I can't see any obvious way of doing this. I thought using the 
center paragraphs might have worked but its greyed out. But that is how 
I thought I had done it in the past


I am using lyx 1.6.5 on Ubuntu 10.04 and lyx 1.6.7 on a Mac running Tiger.

Thanks,

Graham



Re: positioning tables inside float

2010-08-28 Thread Graham Smith

Jurgen,


Are you sure the cursor is _outside_ the table?


Nope, I'm sure the cursor is _inside_ the table :-(

That would explain why it worked before, but didn't work this time.

Working fine now, many thanks.

Graham






Re: print slides with notes

2010-08-30 Thread Graham Smith

Necati

Not exactly what you need maybe, but this is what I do.

This is copied from my preamble

%next five  lines needed to print two to a page handout comment out for 
presentation

\usepackage{pgfpages}
\pgfpagesuselayout{2 on 1}[a4paper,border shrink=2mm]
\setbeamercolor{background canvas}{bg=black!1}
\setbeamertemplate{footline}[page number]
\setbeameroption{show only notes}

It shows a thumbnail of the slide, plus any notes associated with the slide.

For it to work, every slide has to have a note attached, even if its 
empty, as its really printing the notes, with the thumbnail of the slide 
an addition to the note.


I haven't used it for a bit, and its cobbled together from beamer help 
from different places, but it might help.


Graham





Re: print slides with notes

2010-08-30 Thread Graham Smith

Necati


* Is there a way to disable the thumbnail?
* When i add notes, notes are seen as numbered list. Is there a way to
change to itemized list?


Sorry, I don't know the answer to either of these questions, I'm still 
very new to this. Hopefully someone else can help.


Graham



Figure x: defaults set up

2010-09-01 Thread Graham Smith
This has got to be simple, but how do I change the figure/table 
defaults, so I get "Figure x." rather than "Figure x:"  i.e. a full stop 
rather than a colon.


This is with article class if that makes a difference.

Thanks,

Graham


Re: Figure x: defaults set up

2010-09-01 Thread Graham Smith

Paul,


In the preamble:

\usepackage{caption}
\captionsetup[figure]{labelsep=period}


Many thanks, exactly what I needed.

Graham



A bit OT - Jabref and citing web pages in lyx

2010-09-02 Thread Graham Smith
I've got Lyx working with citations largely as I expect it to work, but 
I am struggling with web page citations.


I am collecting references in Zotero, then importing into Jabref which 
has a *.bib file in the same directory I am usng for my Lyx document.


I am then inserting the citations using Lyx, but keeping the *.bib file 
updated with Jabref.


Web page reference exported from Zotero won't import into Jabref. BUT I 
also have Mendeley which syncs with the Zotero database and exports as a 
bib file that Jabref will read. However, there is no web page reference 
option and the "misc" type that it imports as doesn't have a field for 
"last accessed"


As this has now a days got to be a common reference type, can anyone 
give me some pointers about how to deal with web page 
references/citations with a lyx/jabref/bibtex combination.


Googlind hasn't helped me any, but if someone has a link to an 
appropriate web site, that would be great.


Many thanks,

Graham


Re: A bit OT - Jabref and citing web pages in lyx

2010-09-02 Thread Graham Smith

Kevin,


I haven't tried JabRef, but Zotero does export my web pages as "misc"
in a format that LyX understands anyway. However, Zotero doesn't
export the "lastchecked" field, I believe since it's not "standard"
bibtex.


Ah, I never tried using the Zotero to bibtex direct route, as I couldn't 
get Jabref to import the Zotero exported bibtex file.


I might rethink this


The user shil88 in
http://forums.zotero.org/discussion/1302/export-bibtex-webpage-specific-fieldsinformation-missing/


Thanks, I will have a look at this.

Graham


Re: A bit OT - Jabref and citing web pages in lyx

2010-09-02 Thread Graham Smith

Julio


The best solution is Biblatex. For example:


Thanks for this, I was looking for something like this, but couldn't 
find it.


Graham



Re: A bit OT - Jabref and citing web pages in lyx

2010-09-02 Thread Graham Smith

Paul,


If you're disinclined to move to Biblatex (per Julio's suggestion), you might
try one of the workarounds at
http://win.ua.ac.be/~nschloe/content/bibtex-how-cite-website.


Thanks, a lot of helpful info here.

Graham


suppressing "Chapter" labels in book class

2010-09-05 Thread Graham Smith
I'm afraid I have asked this before, but can't find it either by
googlng or in my mail base.

With book class each chapter is headed Chapter x and then the title of
the chapter.

I only want to show the title of the chapter and suppress the "Chapter
x" printing in either the main text or the header.

I would be grateful if someone could remind me how this is done.

Many thanks,

Graham


text placement with box(minipage) on same page

2010-09-05 Thread Graham Smith
Using book  class I have some information inside a box, which is
sitting inside a branch (as the material is optional). The box fills
about a quarter of the page.

The box is being placed at the bottom of the page and the three short
paragraphs of text above the box on the same page are being spread
evenly to fill the space.  As they are short paragraphs this leaves
large amounts of white space between them.

If I convert then them to a single paragraph, that single paragraph is
then centred in the whte space between the top of the page and the top
of the box. This obviously does not look very good.

There is another box/code branch on the next page if that is
important. However for this page it would make sense if the paragraphs
and the box were all moved up, so all the white space was at the
bottom of the page.

I hope that makes sense, and that somoen can tell me how to fix this.

Many thanks,

Graham


Re: text placement with box(minipage) on same page

2010-09-05 Thread Graham Smith
Jürgen

> Try (in preamble):
>
> \raggedbottom

Excellent, that fixed it :-)

many thank,

Graham


Re: suppressing "Chapter" labels in book class

2010-09-05 Thread Graham Smith

 Can I be more specific with this

What I would like to be able to do is to replace

Chapter 1
Title of Chapter 1

With

1. Title of Chapter 1

So it looks like another section

I can't simply use sections as they start numbers at zero if you don't 
use the chapter environment.


I'm not sure my earlier post was all that clear.

Thanks,

Graham



On 05/09/2010 11:08, Graham Smith wrote:

I'm afraid I have asked this before, but can't find it either by
googlng or in my mail base.

With book class each chapter is headed Chapter x and then the title of
the chapter.

I only want to show the title of the chapter and suppress the "Chapter
x" printing in either the main text or the header.

I would be grateful if someone could remind me how this is done.

Many thanks,

Graham






Re: suppressing "Chapter" labels in book class

2010-09-06 Thread Graham Smith
Jürgen

> Either use the KOMA book class (that has this as default), or with the
> standard book class, use
>
> \usepackage{anonchap}
> \simplechapter
>
> If you use the tocbibind package, you cannot use anonchap in parallel (but
> tocbibind provides the same \simplechapter command).

Thanks,  I am using  Book because I am running SWeave, which currenly
Lyx only supports in Book,Report and Article. I believe this is
changing in Lyx 2.0, but for now I am stuck with Book.

anonchap works fine for the text, but it still leaves Chapter 1,
Chapter 2 etc in the header.
I have had a look at the documenation for anonchap and tocbibind and I
can't see anything obvious to fix the header.

Can you suggest an approach for the header.

Thanks again,

Graham


Re: suppressing "Chapter" labels in book class

2010-09-06 Thread Graham Smith
Jürgen

> Quick and dirty:
> \d...@chapapp{\hspace*{-1ex}}

Excellent, quick and dirty is what I need right now.
>
> More elegant: set heading style to "fancy" and redefine the header to your
> needs (see fancyheadings manual).

I will look at this once I start to think in detail on how I want the
report presented, at the moment I was/am under pressure to get
something out the door.

So many thanks again.

Graham


Sweave and Branches (optionally including and excluding code in a report)

2010-09-07 Thread Graham Smith

I have written a report using Lyx and SWeave.

After testing to see it worked with a couple of bits of code, I put all 
the code in a branch called code. The plan being to be able to produce 
two reports, one with code and one without.


However, even though it seemed to work when I tested it,now that I am 
finished, the file compiles fine with the code branch active, but if I 
switch off the branch containing the code I get an error.


An error occurred whilst running R CMD Sweave 
'Jbats_3_ReportFinalArticle.Rnw'


Should the code work in branches. I'm not sure how SWeave works.

Some of the figures in the report draw on information generated by the 
code. I also have some bootstrapping.


Is there an easy  way of incuding and excluding code that I am missing.

Any suggestion very welcome.

Thanks,

Graham



Adding bibliography environment adds key-2[] at end of document rather than Bibliography

2010-09-07 Thread Graham Smith
I changed class from book to article and the bibliography broke. No 
references appeared in the Bibliography section when compliled and the 
in text citations compiled with a "?"


I deleted the environment and tried to re-add the bibliography but 
intead of getting the bibliography "button" that allows you to link a 
database, I am getting


References
key-2[]


If I open an existing citation there is no database listed, I have tried 
shutting down and reconfiguring, but I guess I am doing something more 
fundamentally wrong here.


Can someone explain what it is.

Thanks,

Graham



Re: Adding bibliography environment adds key-2[] at end of document rather than Bibliography

2010-09-07 Thread Graham Smith
To add to this on an earlier draft of this document I see the source 
code is


\bibliographystyle{apalike2}
\bibliography{jbatsbib}


On this document and indeed I have now tried this with a couple of new 
documents, adding the bibliography environment is adding


\begin{thebibliography}{99}
\bibitem{key-10}
\end{thebibliography}

Graham


Re: Adding bibliography environment adds key-2[] at end of document rather than Bibliography

2010-09-07 Thread Graham Smith
Oh Dear, how stupid am I, in a bit of a tizz here and just being stupid.

Sorry folks.

Graham

On 7 September 2010 16:02, Graham Smith  wrote:
> To add to this on an earlier draft of this document I see the source code is
>
> \bibliographystyle{apalike2}
> \bibliography{jbatsbib}
>
>
> On this document and indeed I have now tried this with a couple of new
> documents, adding the bibliography environment is adding
>
> \begin{thebibliography}{99}
> \bibitem{key-10}
> \end{thebibliography}
>
> Graham
>


SWeave and Lyx - managing the R code component

2010-09-10 Thread Graham Smith

Hello,

I posted a similar question earlier, but without a response - maybe it 
wasn't worded properly, as I was in a bit of a panic, when it was posted.


SWeave and Lyx are a great combination for combining R code and R output 
into the same document and most of the time this is fine, but 
occasionally I need a 2nd version without the code, but still any graphs 
produced by the code.


I did try branches, but switching off a branch, which runs a calculation 
that a figure relies on, breaks the figure code.


I also tried putting the code in an appendix, but this has a similar 
problem with the figure code calling data that hasn't yet been created.


Has anyone any idea how this can be got around, and give me the two 
document versions: one with code and one without.


I could live with all the code ending up in an appendix, and wondered if 
there was some clever way of working with two files, one for the 
analysis that would run first, then the main document could grab output 
from this analysis file for the main text, and then dump the analysis 
file into the compiled document as an appendix. If that makes sense.


Any suggestions gratefully received.

Graham



Re: SWeave and Lyx - managing the R code component

2010-09-10 Thread Graham Smith

Liviu


Have you tried to use \SweaveOpts{echo=T} for the with_code document,
and 'echo=F' for the document with no code? You can also use this
option on specific chunks as follows
<>=
@


I have used this in specific chunks but it isn't practical for a full 
report. Howver, I haven't tried it as an option in  the pre-amble. I 
will give it a go.


Thanks,

Graham



Re: SWeave and Lyx - managing the R code component

2010-09-10 Thread Graham Smith

Liviu,

This shows some promise. The echo=T within the chunks overrides the 
SWeaveOpts command, and the although the code is suppressed you still 
get the output, which is fine for the figures but not for some of the 
numerical output


However, this all looks promising as you could create objects in the 
main text (rather than output)and then put the output into the appendix.


All told this looks very good.

Many many thanks.  lyx seems to triumph again.

Graham



Re: SWeave and Lyx - managing the R code component

2010-09-10 Thread Graham Smith

Rainer


Well - you could open the LyX document in a text editor, and do a
search-replace, so that all chunks have the same option? Also something
I did in the past.


Yes, this is an option, but its an added complication I would rather avoid



Howver, I haven't tried it as an option in  the pre-amble. I
will give it a go.


If I remember correctly, I tried to set it in the preamble, but it was
overwritten again - so I put it into an ert block at the beginning of
the document and it was working.


I have it an ERT block at the beginning of the document, as it didn't 
seem to work in the pre-amble, but that was before I realised that the 
local echo=T were overrding the SWeaveOpt command. So I'm not sure now.


However, as I've said in another response I now seem to have the makings 
of someting that will work.


Thanks,

Graham


Sweave - No information for exporting the format PDF (pdflatex).

2010-09-12 Thread Graham Smith
I have just installed, Lyx/Sweave on ubuntu 10.04 on an Asus eeepc 901.

I have upgraded to Lyx 1.6.7 using the repository at
http://ppa.launchpad.net/lyx-outline-devel/lyx-stable/ubuntu

Followed the instructions at
http://ggorjan.blogspot.com/2010/01/lyx-sweave-on-ubuntu-karmic.html
to install SWeave etc, as I have done several times before, checked
that all the files are where the instructions say they should be, done
the texhash/reconfigure but get an

erro:r No information for exporting the format PDF (pdflatex).

When I try to compile a file with this text


test
<>=
x<-c(4,5,6,7,5,6,7,8,9)
x
@

The code chunk is in an ert box.

Has anyone any suggestions s to where I can look for the problem.

Many thanks,

Graham


Re: Sweave - No information for exporting the format PDF (pdflatex).

2010-09-12 Thread Graham Smith
Liviu,

Thanks, all it says is

+Read the file doc/LaTeXConfig.lyx for more information.
gra...@eeepc-linux:~$ lyx
Error: Couldn't export file

No information for exporting the format PDF (pdflatex).


If I just use article class it compiles OK, its just when I change the class to

article Sweave noweb that I get the error, so it seems an Sweave issue.

Graham


Re: Sweave - No information for exporting the format PDF (pdflatex).

2010-09-12 Thread Graham Smith
Liviu,

I have managed to fix this. The preferences file had downloaded as
preferences.txt.

But looking at my other installs, I noticed it has no extension, so I
deleted the ",txt", and everything now works.

Can't say I remember deleting this before, but its now working.

Thanks for your help..

Graham


Keeping text in sync at two locations in a document

2010-09-16 Thread Graham Smith
I have two timetables within the same document.

One is the main timetable which has the lecture title and a summary of
its content. The other is a summary timetable that goes on the back
page of the document, and just has the date and lecture title.

With Word I can use" Bookmarks" to auto-update the summary timetable
when I edit the main timetable. The dates are fixed so its only the
lecture titles that get edited and re-arranged.

Is there some way of doing this in Lyx.

Thanks,

Graham


Re: Keeping text in sync at two locations in a document

2010-09-16 Thread Graham Smith
Richard

> It can easily be done in LaTeX, by defining macros that contain the dates
> and titles and then using those more than once. You can do this in LyX, too,

That is very clever, and exactly what I wanted. Indeed I can see scope
for this being useful for several other things as well.

many thanks,

Graham


Re: Keeping text in sync at two locations in a document

2010-09-16 Thread Graham Smith
Mateo

> Yes there is native support for macros in lyx, but the name is misleading; 
> they are called Math macros. [Menu | Insert | Math | Macros] will allow you 
> to define the macro, in both LaTeX and how it should appear in LyX if you so 
> desire. Then, to use it in your text, insert some Inline Math; type your 
> macro name preceded with a back-slash.
>
> This is instead of defining the LaTeX macros in your preamble, as per below 
> (which also work just as well).

This is also useful to know, but in this instance having the code in
an ERT block at the beginning of the document works well, as I can
construct my timetable in this block and see dates etc in context have
it propagated through the document.  Next year I can then edit the
appropriate bits in the block and that part of the docment is updated.


Thanks,

Graham


Printing a beamer outline

2010-09-16 Thread Graham Smith
I have Beamer set up to create a main presentation plus a child document 
that produces an article (where I include additional "article" only 
text) that I use as a handout.


A change of policy means that we are now handing out just an "outline" 
of the main slide headings and the bullet points beneath them (no frames 
or graphics).


Easily done in PowerPoint (just print as an outline) which everyone else 
uses, but its not obvious to me how I do this with Lyx. The "proper" 
handout will be made available online, so I still need my existing 
article ouput.


I did wonder if there might be some way of setting up a second child 
document still with the beamer class, but with a print "outline" or 
maybe even a TOC option, but I can't see anything as simple as that.


Once again any suggestions gratefully received.

Thanks,

Graham




Re: Printing a beamer outline

2010-09-16 Thread Graham Smith
Richard,


> I'm not sure I fully understand what you want. What do you mean by "the
> bullet points beneath them"? I think of bullet points as things on the
> slides, so that's presumably not what you mean.

 If you have a presentation file with no additional "article" notes or
graphics and print out a Beamer article as a handout you get an
outline of the presentation, with each frame title as a heading and
the text contained in  the frame under the frame title. This is what I
am describing as an outline.

But  I have graphics and additional article only text in the
presentation, which is currently also printed as part of the Beamer
Article. I would like to be able to:

1. Print out the Beamer presentation
2. Print out a Beamer article with the additional article only text
and graphics.
3. Print out a Beamer Article that excludes the article only text and
graphics, and only has the text that is included in the presentation
(without the frames)

Does that make any more sense?

Thanks,

Graham


Re: Printing a beamer outline

2010-09-16 Thread Graham Smith
Richard,

Thanks for  persisting with this.

The text is added in an ERT box.

\mode {text inserted between brackets will only print in the
article and not the presentation}

Graphics are added just with the insert graphics menu.

It is beginning to look that this may well end up rather complicated.
I wonder if your original idea of using branches might be the
solution.

I will put together a file, but I'm on the wrong computer at the moment.

Graham


Re: Printing a beamer outline

2010-09-16 Thread Graham Smith
I wonder  if a child document that only contained a TOC might work, if
that's possible.

Graham


Re: Printing a beamer outline

2010-09-24 Thread Graham Smith
I guess this is impossible.

Unless someone has had a brainwave since my original post.

I've had no reply to this on the Beamer forum or on the comp.text.tex group.

 I was hoping that someone might have known of a simple Latex switch
to switch off the graphics and the article only text, but obviously
not.

I'm not sure how I get round this, certainly don't want to go back to
PowerPoint, but nor do I fancy manually creating and keeping an
outline in sync with the main presentation and article.

Thanks,

Graham


Re: more on collaboration

2010-09-24 Thread Graham Smith
Steve,

> All Unleashed books are written by a main author and lots of contributing
> authors. However, it's carved up by chapter, so no chapter is collaborative.

While this may well be true in general, the two books I have
collaborated on (my only book experience)  I contributed to every
chapter, writing some sections as well as heavy editing of the content
written by the main author (or the other authors).

Certainly this wasn't live collaboration, and relied on the track
changes features of Word.

I have done the same thing with Lyx and co-authoring Technical reports.

We also tried a Skype/Google Apps approach for live editing, but it
didn't work very well because of how slow the Skype connection was.
But this was more of brainstorming exercise trying to flesh out a
Report outline.

The books are:

http://www.amazon.com/Effects-Extensions-Ecology-Statistics-Biology/dp/0387874577/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1285353221&sr=1-1

and

http://www.amazon.com/Analysing-Ecological-Statistics-Biology-Health/dp/0387459677/ref=sr_1_2?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1285353262&sr=1-2

Graham


Re: Printing a beamer outline

2010-09-24 Thread Graham Smith
Richard


>> I guess this is impossible.
>>
>> Unless someone has had a brainwave since my original post.
>>
>>
>
> I just haven't had time to think about it. LyX time is spent chasing other
> bugs right now.

I still appreciate you thinking about it, if you do have a sudden
eureka moment, then I would still appreciate you getting back to me.

I am already viewed with some suspicion, as I don't use PowerPoint,
and as its now department policy to hand out outlines, not being able
to produce them in Lyx/Beamer, gives me a bit of a problem.

Graham


Re: Printing a beamer outline

2010-09-24 Thread Graham Smith
Paul,

> First off, unless you have a specific reason to put the article-only text in
> child documents, I'd probably advocate including it in the original text file 
> in
> branches (just to keep things together).  If you have a particular reason to 
> use
> child documents, then maybe put the child include statements in a branch (so 
> you
> can turn them on and off easily).

I used to do it all in one doc and switch document class as you
suggest.  However, I found the presentation often  needs tweaked to
get the article to look right and the child document approach allows
easier regular compilation to check that it looks OK. But I agree
using branches looks a promising approach

Certainly its going to be better than PowerPoint, I will give it a go.

Thanks,

Graham


Off-topic (sort of) Online PDF annotation tools

2010-10-25 Thread Graham Smith
Has anyone any experience of tools such http://a.nnotate.com/index.html 
or https://docq.com/


These allow you to upload a PDF to the web, send someone a link, and 
they can then annotate the PDF online from their browser.


It seems a way of getting some level of collaboration/feedback from 
clients/collaborators, without needing to have a copy of Adobe Acrobat 
Professional to enable the comment feature, forcing them to download one 
of the many third party pdf annotation tools, or giving them a converted 
 Word/HTML version of your Lyx document.


They will see something that looks like a finished document.

As, with one exception, everyone I work with expects a Word document to 
comment on, but is still comfortable with the idea of PDFs as "final" 
documents, this seems a possible solution, to an ongoing problem I have, 
just because I use Lyx.


It wouldn't be that great for full blown co-author work, but for a lot 
of what I do when its really on-going feedback this sounds like a 
possible solution.



Graham



Spellchecker stopped working

2010-12-12 Thread Graham Smith
With lyx 1.6.7 on Ubuntu 10.10 the spell checker cannot be started, running
from terminal gives me this output.

gra...@antec-linux:~$ lyx
ForkedProcess::kill(5)
Error: Spellchecker error

The spellchecker could not be started
LyX: Failed to start ispell!


** (:3299): WARNING **: Failed to send buffer

** (:3299): WARNING **: Failed to send buffer
Killed 3301
../../../../src/frontends/qt4/Dialog.cpp(129): Dialog "spellchecker" failed
to translate the data string passed to show()

This a fresh install of both Ubuntu and Lyx (a couple of weeks old), and the
spell checker was working until today

Possibly of relevance, after this re-install, Emacs was giving me an error
that it couldn't enable flyspell.

This apparently needed elisp updated which was done as per instruction to
add ppa:ubuntu-elisp/ppa
and update the dist-upgrade.

This may be coincidence but since sorting out the spell checking issue with
emacs, I seem to have broken the spell checking with Lyx.

I have re-installed Lyx, but this hasn't helped.

Thanks,

Graham


Re: Spellchecker stopped working

2010-12-12 Thread Graham Smith
M


With lyx 1.6.7 on Ubuntu 10.10 the spell checker cannot be started, running
> from terminal gives me this output.
>

To answer this myself, switching the preferences to aspell, got this working
again, but why should it suddenly decide to use iSpell.

Or have I always been using ispell and it did indeed suddenly break.

I will obviously need to read up about this, unless someone has a quick and
easy answer.

Thanks,

Graham


Re: LyX and editors?

2010-12-14 Thread Graham Smith
Steve,


> Perhaps some of you author in LyX but have editors go over your material.
> My
> experience is most editors don't have LyX and don't have the technical
> chops
> to use LyX. So how do you interface with your editors when writing a book
> in
> LyX?
>
> Why not just PDFs, I can't imagine a book editor not having mark up tools
for PDFs.

If you own Acrobat Professional you can activate the mark up tools enabling
them to work in the free Acrobat viewer, but there are lots of other
programs that will allow marking up PDFs.

Although our books were written in Word, the publisher sent the proofs back
to us to check (after they had edited them and messed up several bits) as
PDFs, and we were expected to mark up the PDFs to send back to them for them
to make  the corrections.

This was because by this time they had converted the Word files into their
DTP program and the problem was now reversed ie we didn't have the DTP
program to allow us to edit their chosen file format.

Graham


Re: LyX Promotion

2011-03-23 Thread Graham Smith
One possible approach is to write an introduction to Lyx specifically aimed
at Word users.

This has been done for R at
http://chartsgraphs.wordpress.com/learnr-toolkit/ where the tutorials assume
familiarity with Excel and demonstrate how things differ (or are the same)
in R. There have also been similar things done for the GIS program Manifold,
comparing it against the Industry standard products from ESRI.

I had a couple of aborted attempts with Lyx, because, as a Word User, I just
couldn't get my head around certain concepts (the concept of compiling a
document probably being the main one). I then eventually came back to Lyx
via SWeave in R, which introduced me to Latex, and then Lyx fell into place
and I realised it gave me an easy interface to Latex for every day
documents.

A Lyx equivilant of the R tutorials would have been a great help.

Graham



On 22 March 2011 15:51, Rob Oakes  wrote:

> Dear Users and Developers,
>
> Thank you to both Pavel and Stefano for ollowing up with Google about why
> the GSoC application was turned down. Is there any way that I could help in
> that review? Stefano, will you be attending the IRC meeting to be held later
> today? I think it's very important that we understand why LyX was rejected
> as a mentoring organization, and I'd be willing to hep in any way necessary.
>
> While I have some ideas about why it may have happened, I think that Pavel
> hit the nail on the head. When I talk to people about LyX, they seem to
> think of it as a specialized academic writing tool. Basically, a program
> which helps professors and students write a thesis or articles. (To be even
> more narrow, it seems like many think it is for math and physics people to
> write a thesis or article.) Which is to say, a specialized program with an
> incredibly small user base and use.
>
> While that stereotype may be somewhat true (I don't think anyone would
> argue that many of the developers and users are within academics), it
> significantly understates LyX's appeal, especially if you consider the
> enhancements available in the upcoming version. From my own personal
> experience, I've found LyX to be the most capable pre-press/writing tool
> I've ever come across. If I were a publishing company or involved in the
> creation of any type of documentation, I would be looking  at LyX very
> carefully. It's the only tool that I know that allows you to manage
> collaboration, typesetting the final output, and target both electronic and
> print from the same source. With the recent explosion of electronic
> publishing and eBooks, I think that makes it *highly* relevant.
>
> Yet, I'm not sure that the wider community appreciates that. (Hearing
> Google's rationale for rejecting the GSoC application will help somewhat in
> clarifying how LyX is perceived.) Which really brings me to the reason I'm
> writing.
>
> Would it be worth trying to promote LyX to people who might find it
> helpful?
>
> We've talked for a long time about writing a LyX book, which is an
> excellent and wonderful project. But what if we first tested those waters by
> tackling some smaller projects first?
>
> For example:
>
> 1.) I just learned about a new open design magazine this morning, called
> LibreGraphics magazine (http://libregraphicsmag.com/). The goal of the
> publication is to help designers find tools for their work. It seems like an
> article about using LyX for book design would be a natural fit for their
> target audience.
>
> 2.) In similar vein, the LibreGraphics meeting is also coming up. This
> year, it will be held in Montreal. LibreGraphics targets a similar
> demographic, and it seems like such a presentation would be a natural fit.
> Even better, they pay the travel expenses of presenters (
> http://libregraphicsmeeting.org/2011/). Might anyone be interested in
> talking about using LyX to talk about book design, typography, or writing?
>
> 3.) It's been some time since Linux magazine or one of the other trade
> publications published a general purpose article on LyX. Might it be worth
> creating and submitting one? We might try and target Linux users magazine (
> http://www.linuxuser.co.uk/), ZdNet, or one of the large Linux blogs (like
> OMG!Ubuntu, http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/).
>
> 4.) It seems that there are people willing to help promote/evangelize LyX,
> but I'm not sure we offer much in the way of promotional materials to help.
> Would it be worthwhile to create a limited number of tutorials for people,
> like Venom, who will be holding seminars or workshops? (I've also thought
> about teaching a design workshop through my local library, and these
> materials would help provide a curriculum.)
>
> The tutorials could address some of the finer points of using LyX that are
> not covered in the manuals. For example, how do you collaborate using
> version control? What is the process for creating custom, typeset
> publications with LyX and LaTeX? We could publish cohesive examples and then
> walk throu

Re: LyX Promotion

2011-03-23 Thread Graham Smith
Rainer,

I completely agree and this would be a very usefull document - but the
> issue is not to provide an easy transition from Word to LyX, but to
> enable an easy co-operation with Word or OO / LibreOffice users, in
> the sense that:
>

Ah OK, I obviously misunderstood the basis of the thread, I thought it was
to broaden the appeal/user base beyond the perceived Academic one (but I use
it in consultancy).

Graham


Re: LyX Promotion

2011-03-25 Thread Graham Smith
Stephen


> There was a version for LaTeX
> http://www.tex.ac.uk/tex-archive/info/latex4wp/latex4wp.pdf
>
>
This looks useful, thanks.

Graham


R Gaphics for Lyx

2011-05-29 Thread Graham Smith
 I'm looking for some advice on format and quality specification for
exporting graphs from R to go into a Lyx Document, that will end up as a
printed document.

At the moment each graph using the R defaults is a 3 - 4mb PDF, and I am
using them as 9cm x 9cm in the document.

Has anyone got  a standard spec that they use for exporting from R to keep
the file size as small as possible while still giving high quality

I am less than half way through a document which currently has 122 graphs
(each 9cm x 9cm) in it that gives me  a PDF of half a Gb. I can compress the
PDF with a Nautilus script down to 11Mb, but it would make sense to export
graphs that were as small as possible. At half a Gb, the preview scrolls
really badly on my PC.

Many thanks,

Graham


Re: R Gaphics for Lyx

2011-05-29 Thread Graham Smith
Hello Murat


> If I understand well your message, your plots have a lot of data points and
> since each point is represented as a vector object, the vector based formats
> like eps or pdf become huge.


I often use PNGs if the files are going to end up in a Windows program, but
have got used to using PDFs whenever I can.  I will give PNGs a try and see
how big a difference it makes.

Thanks,

Graham


Re: R Gaphics for Lyx

2011-05-29 Thread Graham Smith
Yihui


, I think Graham's question has pointed out a very useful
> direction -- we may consider leaving some sort of API's or hooks in
> the R script in LyX which is used to process the Rnw document.


> A few months ago I also recommended the qpdf program to R developers
> to compress PDF plots and it has been included in R now (the option
> --compact-vignettes in R CMD build). Graham, is your script portable
> to Windows and Mac? Could you share it with us? Maybe we can propose
> this feature to LyX developers. It will be definitely helpful.
>

Although I do normally use  SWeave, these particular files were simply
exported from R, and then imported into Lyx, there  just big PDFs. ECDFs
based on 120,000 data points, which is why I suspect they are large without
some form of flattening.

But compressing imported PDFs goes beyond R and maybe qpdf could become a
Lyx  feature to optimise PDFs the same way that MSWord allows you to
optimise graphics before saving/printing.

The Nautilus script in Linux uses Ghostscript and maybe this could be
another option to consider along with qpdf.
http://www.webupd8.org/2010/11/download-compress-pdf-12-nautilus.html

But I will have a look at qpdf, thanks,

Graham


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