that runs from a rules file.
Has anybody attempted this?
thanks,
Jonathan Cohn
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You did not indicate if this was POP or IMAP that was experienceing
the issue. For POP, I know that if the POP server gives any error
during login, then Apple mail will pop up the password message, even
if the error is Sorry you are logged into the server somewhere
else. I suggest you
I wonder if nothing else, perhaps a applescript can be written?
Something like
1. Select songs you want to have on iPod.
2. Run the appleScript to add to iPod.
I would expect this would only be about 4 lines of AppleScript
I currently don't have a iPod to play with, but if you want me to
I remember reading that SuperDuper (probably only the paid version)
can set up a sandbox. In this configuration you have a stable copy
of the Macintosh applications and OS on a read-only partition, and
then SuperDuper will create aliases to those files on a second
partition. This way if
I just read a New York Times article about Sony using a standard
called ePub,is this at all related to DAISY? There was also some
speculation that if Apple brings out a tablet, that it will have book
reading abilities. Perhaps we should request that Apple support the
Daisy standard
The Address book scan be in card view or 3 pane view. I think that
command-1 and command-2 activate the appropriate view. In the three
pane view:
First interactive area is groups (All, Last Import ...)
Second is a listing of the users that are members of the selected group.
Thirde panel will be
Ah, but one of the best ways to drop malware into the system is to
have a pop-up ad that says Hey fellow, your virus protection is out of
date. Please give us your credit card, and we will provide you a new
virus scanning software package.
I know quite a few folks on this list have downloaded
I believe there is a GMail setting that effects how the delete in iMap
works. Right now, I have my gmail set up so that only once the email
has been deleted from all iMap folders will it get deleted on the
gMail server. This worked great when I had all my emails in one
folder, but I recently
Ah, but could you do braille?
Jon
On 01/06/2010, Doug Lawlor doug.law...@gmail.com wrote:
Speaking of this technology, I was listening to a BBC program and the
announcer indicated that a company called Immersion was or has come out with
a haptic iPhone sleeve. Has anyone else heard of this?
I wonder what your screen resolution is or if you have screen
magnification turned on. In terms of trying to get things to work,
you might want to start typing the command in the menu you are
attempting to access.
On 12/06/2010, Kimberly thurman kimthur...@insightbb.com wrote:
Good evening
Perhaps the developer could add a system preferences panel to make it
easier to control rather then the contorted opening of the package
contents. In the mean time, perhaps creating an alias of the
preferences program and dropping that into the applications directory
might work for some ease. I
It might be possible to get to the underlying application objects via
AppleScript and then create a completely new User Interface in Apple
Script to the program. I would expect this in (except in some limited
cases) to be completely the wrong approach. If you were able to
reproduce all the User
from that field using just
rules, but you could set up a applescript to do this and then link tha
tto your rules.
Best regards,
Jonathan Cohn
Software developer / Consultant
On 14/07/2010, Michael Busboom m...@busboom.at wrote:
This is a great idea.
No, the computers in the office
Actually in some cases, jaws will read those verticle lines too...
In your verbosity settings look for:
Document Presentation:
This option controls how JAWS formats virtual documents.
The simple layout is line-by-line format, much as you might see in a
braille book.
Columns in a table follow each
I am not sure exactly what you are asking I do want to put one
word of caution out there. If somebody replys to a message, and then
changes the subject the message will usually still show in the
original thread. This is because there are headers in the e-mail that
are used for the threading
I am fairly certain that Time Machine places all the backup
information into a very specific directory on your back-up drive. If
this is the case, and if this directory does not exist on your Primary
disk then you should be OK.
I know that Carbon Copy can co-exist if it is run first. Perhaps
image called ComputerName.sparseimage which seems to be one giant
file.
CB
Jonathan Cohn wrote:
I am fairly certain that Time Machine places all the backup
information into a very specific directory on your back-up drive. If
this is the case, and if this directory does not exist on your
One question that did not get answered was how do I see what contacts
are online?. My macintosh is not available for me to verify, but
there should be a menu that lets you select predefined groups of
contacts and one of these is Online contacts.
If you have not found this by Monday, you can
There are three major modes for the arrow keys.
1. VO lock.
2. Standard arrows
3. QuickNav.
I am assuming you have quickNav on? If this is the case try typing
the left arrow and the up arrow at the same time until VoiceOver says
Navigation. See if that solves your problem.
Also, I have on
The function you were talking about is for navigating tables. If you
wantto scan through the Subject of your e-mail's and not accidently
start reading the sender, then you could hold down this key and the
VoiceOver cursor will remain in the column you currently are in. (much
like using the down
Do you et any error messages? Are you trying to do this with
AppleScript, or with the notifications section of iCal?
Best regards,
Jon
On 30/07/2010, Sarah Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote:
Ok I want to try and schedule an outgoing message in ical and the 2 mb
scripts in mail fail
Gmail and IMAP are a strange combination when working together.
GMAILusually has the philosophy of keeping every message in a
everything message. There is a document on the Google web site that
says something to the extent...
Do not check the box to move deleted messages to the trash as this
On 30/07/2010, Jonathan Cohn jon.c.c...@gmail.com wrote:
Gmail and IMAP are a strange combination when working together.
GMAILusually has the philosophy of keeping every message in a
everything message. There is a document on the Google web site that
says something to the extent...
Do
A friend has started developing a website with a good bit of user
interaction, and is using the jQuery UI to create Combo boxes and
other folrm fields. Are there any elements he should avoid to ensure
maximum accessablility?
X
Thanks,
Jon
using
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Scott,
I don't know a lot about this, but essentially any program that uses
the COCOA frameworks and also lables components when using the GUI
builder should be Voice Over accessable. I expect Chris knows a bit
about the way HTML rendering occurs. Also, dialog boxes and other
controls that
Do a search of firmware updates. My memory is that the triple beep is
for an upgrade of firmware where the the installer puts special code
on the disk that is read at boot up time to rebuild the firmeware.
Sighted folks would just have to wait out the 3-4 minutes required for
the firmeware to be
It is more likely that I didn't write the command correcI will test my
command with a cut and paste from home to ensure Iformatted it
correctly. It should'nt take more then 3 seconds.
Jon
instantaenious.
On 23/09/2010, Sarah Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote:
Hmm how long does this process of
Mark,
I probably shouldn't bring in a seperate issue here..., but hI
listened to your p'cast on reading mail on the Macintosh, and I don't
get my mail messages to auto-read when they open. I first have to
interact with the text block. Have you ever experienced this? In
Leopard, the message
Did you put something in the dictionary?
On 27/09/2010, Kevin Reeves li...@kevinreeves.net wrote:
Hey folks. In mail, I have all my messages grouped by thread. On one of
these machines, I was able to get vo to stop saying Thread every time it
encounter one in mail. I somehow got it to just say
It would be interesting to test the new version of Office with Dragon
Dictate, David Pogue in his review last week of the new Dragon said
that Dragon was unable to track the insertion point within Microsoft
Word. I assumed this was because of MS using the Darwin framework
instead of the Cocoa
it but not sure. it opened something but my text edit window
was blank. I'll look again when I get home.
S
On Sep 24, 2010, at 12:09 PM, Jonathan Cohn wrote:
It is more likely that I didn't write the command correcI will test my
command with a cut and paste from home to ensure Iformatted
I am not sure of the entire process, but Apple Mail does support
S/MIME for encryption and certification. It looks like the first step
is to import a certificate from a signing authority into keychain. It
sounds like once that is done, Mail automatically has sign and
crept functions. There are
Tables on web pages are most easily navigated when in-group navigation
mode. When you are in group navigation mode and are in a table, then
the arrow / swipe movements move you as you would expect within the
table. You would then have to use the interact function to work more
closely within the
Quick and simple.
In finder:
1. command-N (new window)
2. command-shift-C (View computer)
3. command-F (search)
Once you put some search items into the search screen you will find
check box options on how to search. One of these should be to limit
the search to the selected item.
Note: there is
at a specific location before you do your search with
Command+F (which works as does Command+Option+F), one of the options to
refine the search will let you select just that location. HTH.
Cheers,
Esther
On Oct 3, 2010, at Jonathan Cohn wrote:
Quick and simple.
In finder:
1. command-N
This usually happens when you are not in the application that opened a
new window. If you use VO-F1 (twice) and then select Adium you should
hfind a window with a (new) appended to the end. There might be a
possibility that the window is a transient window that disapears
after a couple of
Did you buy Snow Leopard as an upgrade, or did it come with yuour
computer? When upgrading from Leopard to Snow Leopard, the DVD
install does not install the Developer package including XCode and App
Builder. But if you insert the DVD in the slot after upgrading, then
you will find an installer
Too bad, I thought perhaps I would go and by a D-Link and see a whole
new world through my very slow and firewall blocked hotel's Internet
connections.
Not only do they block IMAP, they also block the chat protocol that
Google and facebook use. That's OK, my neighbor has file sharing
turned
I am regularily switching between webkit and safari, often use google
and have never seen these problems. Though I have to admit generally,
for doing searchs on my Mac, I type command-l and then hit tab and
enter my search terms. This avoids opening a web page to just fill in
a form.
Best
The voice over manual has some descriptions of what you can do with
apple script in VoiceOver. Essentially I think you can do things like
Voice-Over find and read item in voice Over caret. The really cool
things that you can do in say a jaws script have to be done with UI
agents. So there is a
The question about the time of day script was answered a while back by
I believe Ester. The script will be in either /Library or
/system/library
Jon
On 06/10/2010, Jonathan Cohn jon.c.c...@gmail.com wrote:
The voice over manual has some descriptions of what you can do with
apple script
Ah, I just learned something useful.. I have been simulating a
double click to open bookmarks.
Also, on an extended keyboard is the command-fN-downarrow replaced by
Command-pagedown?
Thanks,
Jon
On 07/10/2010, Esther mori...@mac.com wrote:
Hi Sarah,
Thanks for that, I actually prefer
There is the locate UNIX command. This has been turned off since
SpotLight was added into the system, but for those that know parts of
file names, it could be useful to turn on. Basically the locate
command works on a globally readable database of all files on a system
and will return very
try going to your Gmail mailbox, and expanding it. I believe the
VO-Command is control-opt-backslash.
There are a couple other ways:
1. Left arrow when gmail is highlighted.
2. Interact with Gmail and then activate control-opt-space the
colapassed toggle.
Jon
On 12/10/2010, Scott Ford
Also, under the windows menu there is a item called connection wizard
or something close to that. If you select that, it will test all the
accounts you have set up, and tell you which ones are working. I
don't remember the detail listed there, but there might be a
disclosure triangle to provide
Stuffit Expander is the free one, it only allows expansion of files,
there is also stuffit, which costs money. There are some folks
around, who have a dislike for the stuffit suite. I don't recall the
argumetns at this point, but
So perhaps look at the tidbits or other technical discussions
Two points:
1. On the PC side wit JFW 9+, there was a jaws script to reply
directly to sender (perhaps alt+Y?
2. On the macintosh, if you interact with the headers, andthen when
Voice Over readds the person yyou want to reply to, perform a click
and a menu will appear. I think in Leopard and
That won't do OCR though will it?
Best regards,
Jon
On 12/10/2010, Scott Howell scottn3...@gmail.com wrote:
Thanks Justin, I will pass this along.
On Oct 12, 2010, at 5:57 PM, Justin Ekis wrote:
Hi scott, here is the link for the download page where you can find
pdf2rtf. There are a lot
I don't have an answer for this, but I wonder... VO-Shift-M on a
picture will bring up a contextual menu. Could one put a send image
to Abby Reader as an acttion in there?
That would solve this problem.
Jon
My next question is regarding using the Web. Captchas-need I say more? On
the Windows
1. There are a couple of ways to jump around a table. In all cases
you should be interacting with the table.
1. Use jump cursor mode... VO-shift-J puts you in jump mode, there are
8 combinations you can then use...
1. VO-arrow move to the visible edge in the direction of the arrow.
2.
I personally use iChat, though there are a few folks on the list that
use Aanother program. iChat supports AOL and Jabber protocols, so
that means that it also supports facebook and google chat.
on
On 13/10/2010, Damon Fibraio dfibr...@comcast.net wrote:
OK, so I realize that I can do mail on
Are you looking for just while the file is open, or for re-occurrence
every time you open the file.
If you are looking for a temporary marker, then hot spots should work.
Also, the VO navigation kekeys for jumping to headers and tables
should work in most applications.
Best regards,
Jon
On
I had a co-worker send me a Microsoft word file with documentation on
a process I am supposed to implement. Jaws however just says empty
page for all four pages. I am therefore assuming that screen image
captures were pushed into word. I don't really wnat to ask for a
resend of the document,
If my memory is correct, there is a logs directory in your library I
believe I have seen crash information for VO among the logs there, and
the console program can read these log files.
Jn
On 14/10/2010, GEOFF WAALER geoff.waa...@gmail.com wrote:
Greetings,
I intermittently experience
You could always remove it from the wireless preferences. Selecting
it from the table and then hitting backspace or command-backspace
should do the trick.
I would test to make sure, but my Macintosh is 10 miles away.
Jon
On 14/10/2010, Ray Foret Jr rfore...@att.net wrote:
Okay, here's
A
2. VO-A will generally work the same as read from cursor. (I think of
it as read all, as a mnemonic), but that is probably from earlier
versions of VoiceOver.
Jon
couple of points here.
1. Using the tab / shift-tab works well from shifting between the
preview and the list of mail items.
On
I understand a lot of these are easier if one uses launchbar. Is
launchbar working fairly well with Voice Over these days? I know that
sighted macintosh hard core users find it almost essential at making
their work efficient.
Jon
On Dec 2, 2009, at 3:02 PM, John G. Heim wrote:
Alright,
You want your keyboard layout to be in a standard greek style? If so,
then you need to go to the international pane of system preferences.
In that window there is a input menu tab to select.
Select this tab and pick the keyboard layouts you prefer. You will
then be able to select a keyboard
with a copy of mySQL which might be of help.
I am kind of itching for a project right now, so if you want me to dig
into this contact me privately at jonc...@cox.net
Thanks,
Jonathan Cohn
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Has anybody successfully used the full monster site with VO? I had to
have my wife submit my resume, and even the disabilities sub-group
has some very annoying features. I was reading an article about when
to reveal your disability, and a loud commercial came up when the
mouse went into
I was incorrect on the name of the database I was thinking of. The
relational database is: Panorama,.
There is a 45 day trial period if you want to try it out.
Jon
On Dec 4, 2009, at 5:08 PM, John W. Carty wrote:
This is the simple response I received from apple concerning file
maker
Dear Team,
I am finally upgraded to Snow Leopard and really love the updates. I have
noticed one issue that is distracting to me at this time.
When I have the VO lock on (VO-;) Then double tapping does not work. for
Example hitting F1 twice will just state the window name and not actually
One place I have noticed that the tab key works better then VO-J or VO arrow
keys is on an HTML form where certain components of the form are hidden until
other items are selected. I see this in the connect to page of
http://www.linkedin.com
Here there are a set of radio buttons that when
Also, if your only interest is in iTunes, then you can turn on the
iTunes home sharing featues. With this feature, you have the iTunes
software syncronize between the computers if you want, or just see
your remote somngs list. No need for mounts for this.
On 06/04/2010, Simon Fogarty
Just to be sure we are on the same page…
On my MacBook where there is a coin slot to unlock the battery, there
is a ram/HD area behind a alumium panel. This panel is attached with
three philips screws according to Apple documentation.
Jonathan Cohn
On 10/06/2011, Vince Mistretta vmistrettat
You could add it to your sidebar...
1. Go to finder.
2. Open a new window command-n
3. Switch to home command-shift-h
4. Select downloads by typing the word until downloads is selected.
5. make it favorite command-t.
On
Aug 28, 2009, at 10:07 AM, Chris Blouch wrote:
Hmm. Not that I know
I think if you did this, you would need to write it too its own
function. Generally the events I have seen for AppleScript are not as
widely available as for example in jaws.
There are Folder Action scripts that can do special functions when a
file is added to or removed from a folder. (
I have heard this can happen if the partition map on the external disk
is not Apple format. I have heard that when you first get an external
disk you should first partition it even if you are only going to use
one partition so that you are using Apple's prefered partition tables
and not
Please share with us what you have done.
Jonathan
On Sep 8, 2009, at 9:24 AM, Yuma Antoine Decaux wrote:
Hi guys,
I've made my first applescript which has taken me a while to do for
the simple fact that there is a structure to be obeyed down to the new
line command, but i think i got the
I have heard good things about Script Debugger.
The website
http://www.latenightsw.com/sd4/index.html
is the home page for this program. I have no idea if it is usable
with VoiceOver. THere are also links on this site for manipulating XML
and plist files directly. plist files are used to
You need to be in the date column of the messages table. This is
supposed to be a generic VO command to sort the order of any table. I
have tried it in Mail and column mode of the finder. I think I might
have tried it on a couple of other tables too.
So to summarizesummerize:
To sort a
OK, I looked at this a bit. The way to start an application is to use
tell for it...
So the below worked for me.
tell application VoiceOver Utility
activate
end tell
On Sep 8, 2009, at 2:01 PM, Yuma Antoine Decaux wrote:
Hi everyone,
After reading quite a few things and testing
Hmm, in my Solaris machines, setting the LANG environment variable
in the shell before launch will set the localization. I wonder if that
would work in Leopard? Something like a shell script
LANG=UK/English launch mail
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You received
Have you upgraded to 0.6.1? There was a bug in outgoing mail that
Apple fixed with this update.
Go to the apple menu and find software update.
Jon
On Sep 11, 2009, at 2:12 PM, Donna Goodin wrote:
Hello all,
For some reason I cannot send email from the mac on either of my
mail
hello,
This is one I have never seen before. The voice over cursor will not
move off of close button for the web-site:
http://usa.hrteamplus.com/user/requirement.aspx%20%20edit%20text
How can this happen? I tried another page off of this site, and I
could tab around to text entry and
Please explain why hitting 6 keys is easier then hitting one?
On 13 January 2011 19:11, carlene knight carlenefor...@gmail.com wrote:
It might just be easier to arrow down to the podcast you want to download,
then press vo/shift+m and then arrow up once to download episode. Press
return,
We could try to guess around the problem a bit...
Are these assignments for GB in general, or for a specific project. I
suggest perhaps could get 1 key assigned and then see what files have been
changed. If there is a modified .plist file, then that type of file is
just a XML file that can be
Hmm, I believe I could write a little apple script to create an alias for
the selected item on the desktop. I wonder if that would work just for file
/ folders or for other items :--
tell ap First guess:
tell Application Finder
set a to the selection of the frontmost window
set thedeskTop
Wow, I am glad to see there is so much interest even if I currently do not
have a need. lease though, if there are major changes in accessability keep
those of us on the MacVisionaries a heads up.
Thanks,
Jon
On 17 January 2011 22:00, Vinny Pedulla vinnypedu...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi folks,
Is this an application you need? It sounds almost like an SNMP manager.
Apple has been locking down programs that could allow malware to get into
the system. Startup items are a good place for this to happen. I suggest
trying to run the Repair permissions in the Disk Utility.
Let me know if
There are quite a few things that could occur.
1 general routing issues. The easiest way to check this is with
traceroute. This can be run from the terminal, but the network utility
in the utilities folder has a tab for this. If you run this with ahost
name like maps.google.com then a line is
I have not seen this behavior before. A couple of questions:
1. Are you still receiving mail in the Maiul application?
2. When setting up outgoing (SMTP) mail you need to indicate a
password for GMAIL, is this still configured? I believe you need to
click on the advanced tab in the account
Every mail application except Outlook uses commas for seperators. In
fact it has been an internet standardsince before 1985.
Jon
On 19/10/2010, Colin M velocity.focu...@googlemail.com wrote:
Hi Denise!
Sorry I cannot answer the first part of your question, but as far as putting
in more than
This is one place where I have had no issues with dragging.
1. Select folder
2. . Make sure mouse is over folder VO-F5
3. Mouse Down VO-Shift-command-space
4. Move to Doc VO-D
5. Mouse Up VO-SHIFT-Command-Space
Best regards,
on
On 19/10/2010, Graham Roby g.r...@virginmedia.com wrote:
Hi,
Hey, I would be happy if I could read 1 word a minute. I can read the
room numbers now with 85% accuracy. :-).
Jon
On 18/10/2010, Samuel samuellbar...@gmail.com wrote:
actually I meant to add this to the other topic i posted about braille
displays I forget that this is a mailing list and not
Well, I finally got my beloved Washington Post to work again. For a
recap, I was getting a scroll area that was not intractable with
when I went to any articles that were recent. (Perhaps all articles).
I scanned through the Develop menu. This is a menu of tools that no
non-webdeveloper should
Well, getting Office for the Mac was a mistake if you are blind, I am
not sure why you would have the Dock activated overtime you start, I
can't imagine that is actually Microsoft. Fore removing simple
programs, one can just drag the folder from the application window
into the trash. (or command
Take a look at this script. The main portion of the script is in the
ProcessFiles action.
This script is meant to be a Folder Action. It looks at all files
moved to the folder, and if they are images, it will create a copy of
the image as a TIFF file in a selected folder. I might be
another great point to make in that apple vs. pc
commercial. On Thu, 14 Oct 2010, Jonathan Cohn wrote:
If my memory is correct, there is a logs directory in your library I
believe I have seen crash information for VO among the logs there, and
the console program can read these log files.
Jn
Hmm, pop over to the tidbits site, they have reviewed keyboards that
are noisy, and I think there was also a discussion of folks that have
converted IBM Selectric typewriters to be computer keyboards.
Jon
On 20/10/2010, Scott Granados scott.grana...@gmail.com wrote:
Heh adding a mechanical
Perhaps there is a feedback or contact us link on the site? I met Tim
once, and I can't imagine he would restrict NZ from access.
Jon
On 22/10/2010, Simon Fogarty si...@blinky-net.com wrote:
Hi Esthre,
I've tried this on both the mac and my windows 7 machines and I get similar
things
Why do you not feel comfortable with the UNIX split command, it has
been around since the fastest modem was 9.6 kbs and hasbeen used by
mailing lists to transfer files since before there was a web.
Do you need recomendation on options?
Jon
On 25/10/2010, Sarah Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote:
Hmm good idea. I haven't looked at at AppleScript objects for iTunes.
I expect with a couple of properties a iTunes script could be written
that prompts for a bookmark name and then creates a a sdifferent
dialog could then pull up a combo box or list box of bookmarks.
If a audio bookmark
Hmm, does diskutility let you see the SD? Perhaps you could format
it in FAT-32 using disk utility.
Best regards,
Jon
On 25/10/2010, Scott Granados scott.grana...@gmail.com wrote:
Depends on the version of the OS you're running.
I did some googling and that was one of the things suggested
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On Oct 26, 2010, at 2:39 PM, Jonathan Cohn wrote:
Hmm, does diskutility let you see the SD? Perhaps you could format
it in FAT-32 using disk utility.
Best regards,
Jon
On 25/10/2010, Scott Granados scott.grana...@gmail.com wrote:
Depends on the version of the OS you're
For those hardware crazed individuals out there... Try MacTracker. I
used it about 10 years ago, when I needed to know about programing in
detail. It knows technical specifications of most Macintosh models.
I am not sure if it works with Voice Over though.
The website is
I expect that you have headers disabled in your mail messages since
that appears to be the recommendation of a few folks on this list.
f this is th case I recommend the following based on memory... (My Mac
is 20 miles away right now)
1. Command-Shift-H (turn on headers for current message.)
.
One idea if it is recipes that you are usually interested in
selecting, there are a few recipe keeper programs out there that can
grab a recipe from a web site and put it into their database. I have
not personally used any of these, but my wife (who is fully sighted)
loves Yummy Soup.
Sounds like you might have the option to speak text under the mouse
after a delay. I can't remember if this is in the Universal Access
setting, or Voice Over settings or both.
This can be a nice feature won for partially sighted folks as when
they hover the mouse over a specific paragraph, the
Well, since you are willing to use the shel...
The open command described at
http://developer.apple.com/library/mac/#documentation/Darwin/Reference/ManPages/man1/open.1.html
is your friend.
I am not sure if with quicktime you could use the open *.mp3 -a
Quicktime but if not
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