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And this is why I am torn. The SDL will not amass miles enough to gain an advantage using M1 in the manner that Gump did. I expect to hit under 1k per annum in the car, and it took butt loads of miles to get goodness in my other cars. IT has been four years of driving the R107 for it to be r

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once called someone that without knowing what it really > > meant. Be careful, that's a real insult. > > > > Don Snook > > > > > > -Original Message- > > From: arche...@embarqmail.com [mailto:arche...@embarqmail.com] > > Sent: Tues

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n Snook > > > -Original Message- > From: arche...@embarqmail.com [mailto:arche...@embarqmail.com] > Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2016 11:57 AM > To: Mercedes Discussion List > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Q for Larry > > > Donald Snook wrote: > > I am just impresse

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he...@embarqmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2016 11:57 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Q for Larry Donald Snook wrote: > I am just impressed that you used the word "lubricious" ! It's no wonder you're impressed. Here's the primary de

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wrote: > > I once knew a hooker named Minnie Mazola > > > From: Floyd Thursby via Mercedes > To: mercedes@okiebenz.com > Cc: Floyd Thursby > Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2016 1:37 PM > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Q for Larry > > That reminds me of a girlfr never

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I once knew a hooker named Minnie Mazola From: Floyd Thursby via Mercedes To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Floyd Thursby Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2016 1:37 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Q for Larry That reminds me of a girlfr never mind. --FT On 9/20/16 12:56 PM, archer75--- via

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I "caught" it. W - Original Message - From: "Dan--- via Mercedes" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Cc: "d...@penoff.com" Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2016 12:59 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Q for Larry I wondered if anyone would catch that Dan

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That reminds me of a girlfr never mind. --FT On 9/20/16 12:56 PM, archer75--- via Mercedes wrote: Donald Snook wrote: I am just impressed that you used the word "lubricious" ! It's no wonder you're impressed. Here's the primary definition: lu·bri·cious [lo͞oˈbriSHəs] ADJECTIVE "Offensiv

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Curt, yes I know how fast the new oil turns black. I should clarify that when I remove the filter, it is really cruddy looking. Again, I just feel better about longevity with a shorter oil change. Granted, the oil may not be that worn out, but both the oil and the filter look really bad. Best W

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rt Raymond [mailto:curtlud...@yahoo.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2016 10:12 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Q for Larry Are you equating "dirty" with "black"? You know its black about 1 second after you start the car right? Black oil isn't automatic

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However, I did use it correctly if you look at the Latin use. At least in context. Dan Sent from my iPad > On Sep 20, 2016, at 12:59 PM, Dan--- via Mercedes > wrote: > > I wondered if anyone would catch that > > Dan > > Sent from my iPad > >> On Sep 20, 2016, at 12:56 PM, archer75---

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I wondered if anyone would catch that Dan Sent from my iPad > On Sep 20, 2016, at 12:56 PM, archer75--- via Mercedes > wrote: > > > Donald Snook wrote: >> I am just impressed that you used the word "lubricious" ! > > It's no wonder you're impressed. Here's the primary definition: > >

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Donald Snook wrote: > I am just impressed that you used the word "lubricious" ! It's no wonder you're impressed. Here's the primary definition: lu·bri·cious [lo͞oˈbriSHəs] ADJECTIVE "Offensively displaying or intended to arouse sexual desire." https://www.bing.com/search?q=lubricious+definiti

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---Original Message- > From: Dan Penoff [mailto:d...@penoff.com] > Sent: Monday, September 19, 2016 8:16 PM > To: Mercedes List > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Q for Larry > > It also implies my motivation is coming from the idea that I know better - I > don’t, nor do I pro

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he black oil that you can't see it... -Curt From: rogerhga--- via Mercedes To: "List, Mercedes" Cc: roger...@comcast.net Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2016 3:49 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Q for Larry Well, I'll say this slightly tongue in cheek. I do know more than

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Cc: clay Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2016 2:33 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Q for Larry I am torn on tossing synth into the SDL.  When I used M1 in Gump, the first three changes did not seem to have much impact.  The fourth change (15k miles) everything was running much smoother and quieter.  Lots of

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I am just impressed that you used the word "lubricious" ! Don Snook -Original Message- From: Dan Penoff [mailto:d...@penoff.com] Sent: Monday, September 19, 2016 8:16 PM To: Mercedes List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Q for Larry It also implies my motivation is coming from the i

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ts only in the synthetic... Anyway, I took video of the whole process, I'll finish that today and get it up on YouTube. -Curt From: Dwight Giles via Mercedes To: Mercedes Discussion List Cc: Dwight Giles Sent: Monday, September 19, 2016 10:05 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Q for Larry Dan,

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Agreed, but your observations are correct. Cars I have changed to synthetic, specifically Mobil 1, seem to run smoother and quieter after 2-3 oil changes. The former S500 coupe was a good example of this. It had a mild lifter tick at idle that was not due to leaking oiler tubes, as it often is

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Hear Here! Nor would I force all Merkuns to buy ACC. But then THAT decision was not made by any engineer, it was made by the marketing bowties. rogerhga--- via Mercedes September 20, 2016 at 2:49 AM Well, I'll say this slightly tongue in cheek. I do know more

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Well, I'll say this slightly tongue in cheek. I do know more than MB engineers because I would NEVER have put a Chrysler servo in an MB car. After have replaced that item many times in my 80 300SD, I have to wonder "what were they thinking"? Again, when I look at how dirty the oil is at 3K, I'm

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I am torn on tossing synth into the SDL. When I used M1 in Gump, the first three changes did not seem to have much impact. The fourth change (15k miles) everything was running much smoother and quieter. Lots of the kruft that had taken up residence in the engine seemed to have been washed awa

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> > The low-pressure spec on OM61x is 0.5 bar; I don't know what it is on M119. Me either. But it's also 0.5 bar on M116/M117. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery opti

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On Mon, 19 Sep 2016 10:56:13 -0400 Dan--- via Mercedes wrote: > I understand, since it's a synthetic I'm sure it flows far better in > cold temps than a conventional oil. > > In the higher mileage M119s I've had I run 15W-50 M1 and change every > 7500, maybe 10k in the older son's car, since his

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and change the oil less often but > IIRC you don't drive that much. If I ran conventional oil back when I used > to commute all the time I'd have had to change the oil every other month... > > -Curt > > > > From: clay via Mercedes > > To: Mercedes Discu

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It also implies my motivation is coming from the idea that I know better - I don’t, nor do I profess to. It’s more a matter of overcompensation and fiscal analysis on my part - Yes, the oil probably isn’t bad/worn/exhausted/sooted up at this point, but I want the peace of mind that the oil in m

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An oil analysis from Larry is the cheap insurance I use. My OM603 engine has a MB limit of 2% soot - at 12,000 miles on M1 the analysis showed 1.5% soot - but I'd already changed it by then. I did slowly creep up to 12,000 miles with analysis telling me that I could still go longer. I also then had

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ginal Message - From: "Curt Raymond via Mercedes" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Cc: "Curt Raymond" Sent: Monday, September 19, 2016 1:14:47 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Q for Larry Larry, How much does the price drop? The European 5w40 for my VWs is $11.30/qt

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Some people are weird that way. just because they don't want it, they don't want anyone else to get use out of whatever they throw away. Same people chase away people picking up cans or dumpster diving or picking up things at the curb. Curt Raymond via Mercedes

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ff.com" Sent: Monday, September 19, 2016 4:33 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Q for Larry Thanks for weighing in Roger. While the 3000 mile interval may be dated or anecdotal, I feel the same way about getting the crud out of the engine. And again, it's a very small price to pay as far as I&#

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Possibly, but I was schooled in MB oil pressure years ago that anything less than 1.0 bar at idle was undesirable or indicated excessive engine wear. Dan Sent from my iPad > On Sep 19, 2016, at 4:05 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes > wrote: > > Dan, this line from your email caught my attention

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Thanks for weighing in Roger. While the 3000 mile interval may be dated or anecdotal, I feel the same way about getting the crud out of the engine. And again, it's a very small price to pay as far as I'm concerned. Dan Sent from my iPad > On Sep 19, 2016, at 4:05 PM, rogerhga--- via Mercedes

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I would add to this that the 3K oil change is more important to a diesel than a gas engine. When I changed my diesels at 3K, I felt good about getting all the dirt and soot out of the engine. So, while it might be marketing, it was worth it to me. And the engines are still going strong after man

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Dan, this line from your email caught my attention: On Mon, Sep 19, 2016 at 10:56 AM, Dan--- via Mercedes wrote: > The only reason for using the higher viscosity oil is to keep idle > pressures up in high temperatures. In both M119s with over 275k the idle > pressure drops perilously close to 1.

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tember 19, 2016 2:04 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Q for Larry I have a 8 quart model of this: http://www.liquivac.com So, as an oil guy, you're saying that I could go longer than 3000 miles between changes without concerns? This doesn't surprise me at all, but I would also be curiou

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> On September 19, 2016 at 1:24 PM Larry T via Mercedes > wrote: > > > Ditto's - But I guess it's common knowledge on this forum that the old "Change > at 3000" was an advertising gimmick with no basis in fact. I think of it as historical basis. It was probably a very good idea with a non-fe

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part. > > Of course you don't have to worry about cold starts, at 0F with 15w40 > > conventional oil forget it, just plug the car in and wait. With synthetic > > give it an extra few seconds after the car starts and drive away... > > -Curt > > > > From

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ission oil while I'm down there so the belly pan has to come off anyway. -Curt From: Larry T via Mercedes To: Floyd Thursby via Mercedes Cc: Larry T Sent: Monday, September 19, 2016 1:16 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Q for Larry Is that a store bought or a home built pumping syste

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riplin" Sent: Monday, September 19, 2016 10:19:07 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Q for Larry Even with regular oil you should be able to easily go 5k miles. Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 19, 2016, at 9:13 AM, Dan--- via Mercedes > wrote: > > Curt, > > Do you have that bac

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Larry Turnercatalina$27 Sent: Monday, September 19, 2016 1:02 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Q for Larry Hey Curley! I'm afraid I cannot be much help.  Over the past 5 years I have gone totally to AmsOil products and am extremely happy with them.  I use AmsOil full Synthetics in my Porsche 911

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Is that a store bought or a home built pumping system? Thx LarryT - Original Message - From: "Dan--- via Mercedes" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Cc: "d...@penoff.com" Sent: Monday, September 19, 2016 10:56:13 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Q for Larr

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use. -Curt From: Dan--- via Mercedes To: Mercedes Discussion List Cc: "d...@penoff.com" Sent: Monday, September 19, 2016 10:56 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Q for Larry I understand, since it's a synthetic I'm sure it flows far better in cold temps than a conventional oil.

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Hey Curley! I'm afraid I cannot be much help. Over the past 5 years I have gone totally to AmsOil products and am extremely happy with them. I use AmsOil full Synthetics in my Porsche 911 and 91 300D, but of course, I still see people who use all kinds of oils. BTW, recent oil tests on al

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I sure miss the $6/gallon prices for Delo at Costco. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

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edes Discussion List Cc: "d...@penoff.com" Sent: Monday, September 19, 2016 10:56 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Q for Larry I understand, since it's a synthetic I'm sure it flows far better in cold temps than a conventional oil. In the higher mileage M119s I've had I run

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The Delo 400 LE in the 2.5 gallon jugs at Dead Sam's is more than adequate. At around $26/jug it's not expensive, either. Dan Sent from my iPad > On Sep 18, 2016, at 11:12 PM, clay via Mercedes wrote: > > I had the oil debate over Polei. I figured that all the extra pennies for > full synth

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. > Of course you don't have to worry about cold starts, at 0F with 15w40 > conventional oil forget it, just plug the car in and wait. With synthetic > give it an extra few seconds after the car starts and drive away... > -Curt > > From: Dan--- via Mercedes > To

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ercedes" Cc: roger...@comcast.net Sent: Monday, September 19, 2016 10:25 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Q for Larry I'll add my usual different opinion on oil. I've used Mobil 1 Delvac 15x40 in my two old 617s for around 20 years. Neither one has had the head off nor any engine problems.

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From: Dan--- via Mercedes To: Mercedes Discussion List Cc: "d...@penoff.com" Sent: Monday, September 19, 2016 10:13 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Q for Larry Curt, Do you have that backwards? I can't imagine running 15W-50 in the winter in your neck of the woods. It would be like m

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I'll add my usual different opinion on oil. I've used Mobil 1 Delvac 15x40 in my two old 617s for around 20 years. Neither one has had the head off nor any engine problems. One has around 425,000 miles and the other around 360,000 miles. I tried the other oils at first (Delo, Shell, etc.), but D

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you don't drive that much. If I ran conventional oil back when I used to >>> commute all the time I'd have had to change the oil every other month... >>> -Curt >>> >>>From: clay via Mercedes >>> To: Mercedes Discussion List >>

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nventional oil back when I used to >> commute all the time I'd have had to change the oil every other month... >> -Curt >> >> From: clay via Mercedes >> To: Mercedes Discussion List >> Cc: clay >> Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2016 11:12 PM >> Sub

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f I ran conventional oil back when I used to > commute all the time I'd have had to change the oil every other month... > -Curt > > From: clay via Mercedes > To: Mercedes Discussion List > Cc: clay > Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2016 11:12 PM > Subject: Re: [

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e I'd have had to change the oil every other month... -Curt From: clay via Mercedes To: Mercedes Discussion List Cc: clay Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2016 11:12 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Q for Larry I had the oil debate over Polei.  I figured that all the extra pennies for full s

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cars and seem to value their ignorance that we get only crap options for things like oil. I order in Lubro moly 4100 for the Golf... -Curt From: Curley McLain via Mercedes To: Mercedes Discussion List Cc: Curley McLain <126die...@gmail.com> Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2016 9:23

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Oil forum (and diesel pickup forum, and IIRC the late Doktor Booth) wisdom says Delo 400 is the best 'conventional' 15W40 diesel oil, with Delvac 1300 maybe ahead of Rotella. Delo "Iso-Syn" has some of the sorta synthetic group III base stock that they've been using to dilute the group IV base in

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The early RPM Delo and later (Chevron Delo?) had fantastic solvents and cleaners. My first 1958 Beetle was missing on one cylinder (why I got it for $275). After two weeks with Delo in the CC, it was hitting on all 4 and continued to do so for over 100K. Years later when I switched to M1, the fo

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I had the oil debate over Polei. I figured that all the extra pennies for full synth would not be economical in the SDL, and standard diesel oil would be fine. The 20-50 is like hen’s teeth now. FLAPS guy said the call for something that thick is waning. Used only in diesels. My response wa

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Hmm, my beloved 0W40 got thinner and less TBN: http://www.gtrlife.com/forums/topic/177466-new-formulation-mobil-1-fs-0w-40-oil-does-not-meet-gt-r-specifications/ http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php/topics/4028326/Mobil_1_M1_0W-40_%22FS%22#Post4028326 http://www.bobistheoilguy.c

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> On September 18, 2016 at 9:43 PM "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" > wrote: > > > I would also be curious about comparing to Delo full synthetic which is what I > have been using in the 606 > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Sep 18, 2016, at 8:23 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes > > wrote: > >

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Wow, look what I just found from several years ago: http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=1305596 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options

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I would also be curious about comparing to Delo full synthetic which is what I have been using in the 606 Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 18, 2016, at 8:23 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes > wrote: > > Larry, > > do you have any info or insight on how the valvoline full synthretic compares > to

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I love oil threads. Larry can I still send an oil sample using that test kit I got from you? Dwight Giles Jr. 1982 300CD 1990 300D Wickford RI On Sep 18, 2016 9:23 PM, "Curley McLain via Mercedes" wrote: > Larry, > > do you have any info or insight on how the valvoline full synthretic > compare

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Larry, do you have any info or insight on how the valvoline full synthretic compares to M1? I am curious if the base stocks are similar, and if the performance is similar. I think I will use the Valvoline in the Merkun engines, but after the bad experience with castrol so-called synthetic,