In article <20200415193758.csp3wtf4hnhdc...@gmx.com> Dumitru Moldovan
wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 29, 2019 at 10:43:26AM +0100, Walter Alejandro Iglesias wrote:
> >This second one is still pending (no response from the maintainer so
> >far):
> >
> > https://marc.info/?l=openbsd-tech=155931484124288=2
On Tue, Oct 29, 2019 at 10:43:26AM +0100, Walter Alejandro Iglesias wrote:
I like cwm(1) but it's still a bit green and isn't getting enough
attention, I had to insist to get this first patch committed:
https://marc.info/?l=openbsd-tech=149182817427598=2
This second one is still pending (no
On 29/10/19 7:43 pm, Walter Alejandro Iglesias wrote:
> Another long term fvwm2 user here.
>
> I move my hands off the keyboard (to reach arrows, Pg*, Home, End, keys
> or the mouse) only when I'm forced to. That's why the first feature I
> test in a window manager is its switch focus behavior
In article <20191028083820.ga43...@nausicaa.home> Marc Espie
wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 25, 2019 at 05:35:27PM +, flauenroth wrote:
> > Apparently not just theo is using fvwm after all. :)
>
> Considering all the people using it, it would be great if someone were to
> look at the enhancements of
On Mon, Oct 28, 2019 at 04:17:00PM +0100, Marc Espie wrote:
>
> You got to figure out the missing features, and rewrite them "from scratch".
>
> You can't actually borrow the code, because the licence makes it impossible.
>
> Either that, or you convince the xorg project to go back on their
On Mon, Oct 28, 2019 at 08:10:16AM -0700, Chris Bennett wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 28, 2019 at 09:38:20AM +0100, Marc Espie wrote:
> > On Fri, Oct 25, 2019 at 05:35:27PM +, flauenroth wrote:
> > > Apparently not just theo is using fvwm after all. :)
> >
> > Considering all the people using it, it
On Mon, Oct 28, 2019 at 09:38:20AM +0100, Marc Espie wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 25, 2019 at 05:35:27PM +, flauenroth wrote:
> > Apparently not just theo is using fvwm after all. :)
>
> Considering all the people using it, it would be great if someone were to
> look at the enhancements of fvwm2
On Fri, Oct 25, 2019 at 05:35:27PM +, flauenroth wrote:
> Apparently not just theo is using fvwm after all. :)
Considering all the people using it, it would be great if someone were to
look at the enhancements of fvwm2 (wrong license, so not base) and backport
some of these to our elderly
> It's like using ed or vi over MS or Libre Office. I like to have
"simple" software in the means of the software or more precise its
authors don't anticipate what I want to do.
Well said.
I've been thrown over by every software I used so far.
My most important projects last longer than any
Fluxbox 4 ever.
I use Fluxbox on all platforms Debian, Ubuntu, OpenBSD, FreeBSD since more than
10 years. It has all the functionality I will ever need and fits into a slick
20MB binary. Who needs 4-5GB gnome/kde crapware deeply tied into systemD, soon
you will not even be able to use those
>
> ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐
> On Wednesday, May 8, 2019 12:23 AM, ropers wrote:
>
> > Tangentially related: Does anyone here routinely use the default fvwm?
> >
Yes, FVWM works just fine.
> > Now for a really noobish question: Those that do, do you also launch
> > graphical apps by
On Fri, Oct 25, 2019 at 05:35:27PM +, flauenroth wrote:
> Apparently not just theo is using fvwm after all. :)
>
I have been using it about half the time now.
But that was only after copying a config posted here and then modifying
it.
I have had a really hard time getting accurate
Apparently not just theo is using fvwm after all. :)
I heard from many people that fvwm is clunky, old and should not be used. But I
personally like fvwm a lot. It's like using ed or vi over MS or Libre Office. I
like to have "simple" software in the means of the software or more precise its
Hello Ropers
I do use it to the point that i can not stand another WM,
to answer your question: you could launch apps by
(a) installing dmenu(1)
(b) $firefox &
(c) i kind of wrote a script that does what dmenu but using sh.
(d) configuring /.fvwmrc to use shortcuts or a menu. (
So you think everyone replying to this thread is an idiot?
--
Patrick Harper
paia...@fastmail.com
On Fri, 24 May 2019, at 18:38, Jordan Geoghegan wrote:
>
> On 5/24/19 10:26 AM, Patrick Harper wrote:
> > Is it acceptable for third-parties to produce and distribute physical
> > copies of
Is it acceptable for third-parties to produce and distribute physical copies of
releases, using official logos, similar to those made for 6.0 and prior by the
project?
--
Patrick Harper
paia...@fastmail.com
There's a very simple solution to this : create your own post install setup
program and stick it in ports. If it becomes wildly popular then a line could
be added to afterboot to point users at it.
In the meantime I'm quite happy not answering X questions when installing
OpenBSD as a
Thank you for helping me keep this thread going.
--
Patrick Harper
paia...@fastmail.com
On Thu, 23 May 2019, at 20:04, Daniel Jakots wrote:
> On Thu, 23 May 2019 19:51:45 +, "Patrick Harper"
> wrote:
>
> > Our ideas of the setup process aren't equal so I disagree.
>
> Can you please
desktop!
Never, at least that
Em qui, 23 de mai de 2019 às 16:00, Patrick Harper
escreveu:
>
> Our ideas of the setup process aren't equal so I disagree.
>
> --
> Patrick Harper
> paia...@fastmail.com
>
> On Thu, 23 May 2019, at 18:16, Raul Miller wrote:
> > This looks like violent
On Thu, 23 May 2019 19:51:45 +, "Patrick Harper"
wrote:
> Our ideas of the setup process aren't equal so I disagree.
Can you please stop answering to this useless thread?
Our ideas of the setup process aren't equal so I disagree.
--
Patrick Harper
paia...@fastmail.com
On Thu, 23 May 2019, at 18:16, Raul Miller wrote:
> This looks like violent agreement. (It's perhaps worth noting that if
> you change the first word here from "No" to "Yes" that the idea being
Here is a script you can all use which selects a desktop environment,
installs it if necessary, and configures a (eg. your) user's X session
so that it starts when he, she or you log in, facilitating further
user-centric configuration.
Perhaps if you ask really nicely the devs will install it
This looks like violent agreement. (It's perhaps worth noting that if
you change the first word here from "No" to "Yes" that the idea being
expressed does not change.)
Thanks,
--
Raul
On Thu, May 23, 2019 at 1:35 PM Patrick Harper wrote:
>
> No, the installation program should make setup as
No, the installation program should make setup as easy as possible. The idea of
a common development platform for X being suited only for circa 100dpi screens
in 2019 is ludicrous. Making users pore through half-a-dozen man pages and
config files to make their X systems usable on hidpi screens
On Thu, May 23, 2019 at 12:00 PM Ingo Schwarze wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Patrick Harper wrote on Thu, May 23, 2019 at 04:50:54PM +0100:
>
> > I think OpenBSD could be made easier to set up for GUI applications
> > if some configuration that is currently done in files could be moved
> > to the install
Hi,
Patrick Harper wrote on Thu, May 23, 2019 at 04:50:54PM +0100:
> I think OpenBSD could be made easier to set up for GUI applications
> if some configuration that is currently done in files could be moved
> to the install program.
I very strongly oppose the idea.
> These questions (or
I think OpenBSD could be made easier to set up for GUI applications if some
configuration that is currently done in files could be moved to the install
program.
These questions (or similar) could be shown after the one about xenodm:
'Select a resolution for all screens in dots per inch ('?'
On Sat, 11 May 2019, Otto Moerbeek wrote:
Once in a while things break in current, but we keep that to a minimum.
*If* it happens, swift action is taken.
Experiments are mostly done outside the tree and only are committed
after we are confident it's an improvement.
Is there an advantage in
On 14/5/19 6:07 pm, ULF wrote:
> On a mac, on a recent gnome, on a kde, etc. it's easier for a user to keep
> track of multiple jobs without thinking about the OS, but rather thinking
> about contents. It's a matter of fact that computers are mostly used to do
> things that have nothing to do with
The GUI verses command line arguments are as old as time itself, or close
to it. What constitutes a great desktop experience is a matter of taste,
whatever works for you may not work for someone else. Not one desktop or
GUI will fit everyone; use whats best for you and live your own computer
life.
[responding to this little gem I just found in the archives...]
Ingo wrote on 2019-05-14 13:54:38:
> That's entirely a matter of taste.
>[snip rant]
Ingo, we don't often seem to agree, but mecouldn't have said what you
just did any better.
In particular, me'd like to reinforce this point:
>
Hi Ulf,
ULF wrote on Tue, May 14, 2019 at 10:07:46AM +0200:
> On a mac, on a recent gnome, on a kde, etc. it's easier for a user to keep
> track of multiple jobs without thinking about the OS, but rather thinking
> about contents.
[...]
> In 2019, doing all of the above with fvwm, twm,
On Tue, May 14, 2019 at 12:20:52PM +0100, Patrick Harper wrote:
> On Tue, 14 May 2019, at 09:09, ULF wrote:
> > If from one side is true that many modern interfaces (mostly M$, though)
> > are made for people who know nothing about computing, from one another is
> > clear that some good ones (in
On Tue, 14 May 2019, at 09:09, ULF wrote:
> If from one side is true that many modern interfaces (mostly M$, though)
> are made for people who know nothing about computing, from one another is
> clear that some good ones (in terms of usability) help the user to keep
> concentrated on his work.
>
If from one side is true that many modern interfaces (mostly M$, though)
are made for people who know nothing about computing, from one another is
clear that some good ones (in terms of usability) help the user to keep
concentrated on his work.
On a mac, on a recent gnome, on a kde, etc. it's
On Mon, May 13, 2019 at 02:04:13PM -0400, Nathan Hartman wrote:
> On Mon, May 13, 2019 at 1:26 PM Steve Litt
> wrote:
>
> > As I travel this earth I continue to be amazed at peoples' fascination
> > with tiny fonts. Perhaps that's to pack more stuff on the screen. But
> > then they go on to make
On Mon, May 13, 2019 at 1:26 PM Steve Litt
wrote:
> As I travel this earth I continue to be amazed at peoples' fascination
> with tiny fonts. Perhaps that's to pack more stuff on the screen. But
> then they go on to make the text low contrast in the name of "pretty",
> thereby locking out those
On Fri, 10 May 2019 23:32:18 +0200
ropers wrote:
> On 08/05/2019, Steve Litt wrote:
> > ...you'd better crank way up on its fonts. Fvwm fonts
> > are so small that if you have bad vision, you can't read the screen
> > well enough to increase the font size.
> >
> > It's easy for a
On 11 May 2019, Otto Moerbeek wrote:
> On Sat, May 11, 2019 at 01:05:32PM +0300, Consus wrote:
>
> > On 10:29 Fri 10 May, Stuart Henderson wrote:
> > > On 2019-05-08, Consus wrote:
> > > > On 02:01 Tue 07 May, Clark Block wrote:
> > > >> When will be created a great desktop experience for
On Sat, May 11, 2019 at 01:05:32PM +0300, Consus wrote:
> On 10:29 Fri 10 May, Stuart Henderson wrote:
> > On 2019-05-08, Consus wrote:
> > > On 02:01 Tue 07 May, Clark Block wrote:
> > >> When will be created a great desktop experience for OpenBSD?
> > >
> > > After binary package updates will
On 10:29 Fri 10 May, Stuart Henderson wrote:
> On 2019-05-08, Consus wrote:
> > On 02:01 Tue 07 May, Clark Block wrote:
> >> When will be created a great desktop experience for OpenBSD?
> >
> > After binary package updates will be out-of-box, without using
> > third-party M:Tier.
>
> Oh, but
On Fri, 10 May 2019 23:32:18 +0200
ropers wrote:
> On 08/05/2019, Steve Litt wrote:
> > ...you'd better crank way up on its fonts. Fvwm fonts
> > are so small that if you have bad vision, you can't read the screen
> > well enough to increase the font size.
> >
> > It's easy for a
On 08/05/2019, Steve Litt wrote:
> ...you'd better crank way up on its fonts. Fvwm fonts
> are so small that if you have bad vision, you can't read the screen
> well enough to increase the font size.
>
> It's easy for a well-sighted person to reduce fonts, but for the poorly
> sighted person
On 2019-05-08, Consus wrote:
> On 02:01 Tue 07 May, Clark Block wrote:
>> When will be created a great desktop experience for OpenBSD?
>
> After binary package updates will be out-of-box, without using
> third-party M:Tier.
Oh, but they already are. Install snapshots instead of release.
On Thu, May 09, 2019 at 12:52:18PM +0300, Mihai Popescu wrote:
Still wondering what "great desktop experience" means ...
Bullshit, that's what it means.
In nearly 20 years on mailing lists and on the internet, I don't
remember to have ever seen anyone asking such a stupid question like
the
Aren't new users forced to use fvwm already since that's the default? Removing
the options won't stop those inclined from finding one they like in packages
(unless alt. DEs and WMs are set to be culled from ports as well O_O). However,
there is an opportunity for all GUI ports to include a
@ Steve
> One point I didn't see in RFC's post is stability. When I used OpenBSD
> back in 2010, subjectively it seemed more stable, more consistent, and
> less surprising than any Linux I'd ever used (and of course than any
> Windows I'd ever used). If my computer were just for web browsing,
> ... we should choose *ONE* window manager and delete all the others, and
> force people into a > single working model
There is no need to be so cruel. You can release OpenBSD like hosting
plans: free, basic, advanced and pro. You can rename them differently,
like Home, Enterprise, Business,
On Wed, 8 May 2019 00:23:09 +0200 ropers wrote:
> Tangentially related: Does anyone here routinely use the default fvwm?
Yep - daily.
Cheers,
--
Craig Skinner | http://linkd.in/yGqkv7
Steve Litt wrote:
> > However I don't think shipping a
> > different WM/DE is going to help.
>
> Back in 2010 or thereabouts, when I used OpenBSD on a laptop
> regularly, OpenBSD offered a bunch of WM/DE's in its package manager.
> That's a wonderful thing, because different people have
Interjecting.
About 80 people are building & maintaining an operating system, and
following their whims to fix the problems that they believe to be most
relevant.
What is this email exchange about? Let me lay it out.
1. We are being told what to do.
2. We are being told what is important.
3.
On Wed, 8 May 2019 22:43:00 -0400
Charles wrote:
> I'd like to chime in here, on a slightly different subject.
>
> I think the OP (Clark) raises a point, but I suggest he's coming it
> from the wrong angle. I think there's something here to discuss that I
> have not seen mentioned in this
I'd like to chime in here, on a slightly different subject.
I think the OP (Clark) raises a point, but I suggest he's coming it
from the wrong angle. I think there's something here to discuss that I
have not seen mentioned in this thread thus far.
TL;DR: the OpenBSD (and friends) way of thinking
noah pugsley writes:
> Updated FVWM or a different default config?
>
> Sent from mobile.
> Original Message
> From: Christopher Turkel
> Sent: Wednesday, May 8, 2019 04:22
> Cc: OpenBSD Misc
> Subject: Re: When will be created a great desktop experience for OpenBSD?
>
> I'd like to see an
I'm in favor of an updated FVWM with a simple config.
On Wed, May 8, 2019 at 5:43 PM Matthew Graybosch
wrote:
> On Wed, May 8, 2019, at 5:18 PM, Roderick wrote:
> >
> > On Wed, 8 May 2019, noah pugsley wrote:
> >
> > > Updated FVWM or a different default config?
> >
> > I hope, no one comes to
On Wed, May 8, 2019, at 5:18 PM, Roderick wrote:
>
> On Wed, 8 May 2019, noah pugsley wrote:
>
> > Updated FVWM or a different default config?
>
> I hope, no one comes to the idea to change the configuration.
I'm not really fussed about the default FVWM config; it's easy enough to pull a
copy
On Wed, 8 May 2019, noah pugsley wrote:
Updated FVWM or a different default config?
I hope, no one comes to the idea to change the configuration.
In FreeBSD fvwm is awful configurated and I do not want to waste my time
configurating it. That is why I use there twm (easy to configure).
Updated FVWM or a different default config?
Sent from mobile.
Original Message
From: Christopher Turkel
Sent: Wednesday, May 8, 2019 04:22
Cc: OpenBSD Misc
Subject: Re: When will be created a great desktop experience for OpenBSD?
I'd like to see an updated FVWM as the default WM.
On Wed,
If you do that, you'd better crank way up on its fonts. Fvwm fonts
are so small that if you have bad vision, you can't read the screen
well enough to increase the font size.
It's easy for a well-sighted person to reduce fonts, but for the poorly
sighted person who can't read the screen in the
On Wed, May 8, 2019, at 7:38 AM, Peter N. M. Hansteen wrote:
> > When will be created a great desktop experience for OpenBSD?
>
> I think it is important to keep in mind that in order to achieve
> *anything* in the OpenBSD project (or other open source projects for
> that matter) the way forward
On Wed, 8 May 2019, ropers wrote:
Tangentially related: Does anyone here routinely use the default fvwm?
Yes, routinely default fvwm, also twm, and nothing else. Not only
with OpenBSD.
Rodrigo
I love the default minimalism, simplicity and freedom of OpenBSD to make it
how I want it.
My "Perfect OpenBSD": spectrwm, dmenu, urxvt (with perl tabbing), tmux, etc.
On Wed, May 8, 2019 at 7:40 AM Peter N. M. Hansteen wrote:
> > When will be created a great desktop experience for OpenBSD?
>
>
> When will be created a great desktop experience for OpenBSD?
I think it is important to keep in mind that in order to achieve
*anything* in the OpenBSD project (or other open source projects for
that matter) the way forward is to work *with*, not against, the
developers and their code.
The
I'd like to see an updated FVWM as the default WM.
On Wed, May 8, 2019 at 7:18 AM Mohamed Fouad <
mohamed.ahmed.fouad@gmail.com> wrote:
> if you are suggesting updating the openbsd installer to include dwm as an
> option. Even that it adds one more click to the installation process, it
>
if you are suggesting updating the openbsd installer to include dwm as an
option. Even that it adds one more click to the installation process, it
would work as a sharm for some people :P
On Tue, 7 May 2019, 2:04 am Clark Block In 2019 still there is not a great desktop experience for NetBSD.
On 08/05/2019, noah pugsley wrote:
> You know, I guess it's just personal convention from habit. I think I
> started doing that way back before I could remember how the redirects work
> without looking them up. Too lazy to change now.
>
> So yeah, if you're trying to divine something clever
On 2019-05-07, Steve Litt wrote:
On Tue, 07 May 2019 14:47:15 -0500
Edgar Pettijohn wrote:
I use dwm on everything so my desktop experience is the same
everywhere.
Just the man I want to talk to.
Do you have dmenu running on OpenBSD? Did you need to make adjustments
for ksh instead of sh
On 02:01 Tue 07 May, Clark Block wrote:
> When will be created a great desktop experience for OpenBSD?
After binary package updates will be out-of-box, without using
third-party M:Tier.
You know, I guess it's just personal convention from habit. I think I started
doing that way back before I could remember how the redirects work without
looking them up. Too lazy to change now.
So yeah, if you're trying to divine something clever from that, I wouldn't.
:-)
Sent from
> From: ropers
> Tangentially related: Does anyone here routinely use the default fvwm?
>
> Now for a really noobish question: Those that do, do you also launch
> graphical apps by typing something like this in xterm:
>
> $ firefox > /dev/null 2>&1 &
>
> or do you normally do something else that
I was just thinking fvwm users were all into custom fvwm configs
and I was missing out :) Im glad im not the only one who uses xterm as an
application launcher in fvwm
when using fvwm and using xterm to launch apps I found the responsiveness
of the GUI insanely fast...
It feels strange
Maybe I'm a weirdo, but no matter what I use for a window manager, I start all
programs from the cli. All.
For Firefox or Chrome something like this:
$ firefox & bw ; exit
bw is a shortcut to an xterm with a bunch of options. Kill the one with the
console crap and poop out a fresh one.
On 08/05/2019, Steve Litt wrote:
> On Wed, 8 May 2019 00:23:09 +0200
> ropers wrote:
>
>> Tangentially related: Does anyone here routinely use the default fvwm?
>>
>> Now for a really noobish question: Those that do, do you also launch
>> graphical apps by typing something like this in xterm:
>>
Clark Block wrote:
> What is OpenBSD developers's opinion about the private messages that I
> quoted above?
I'm not an OpenBSD developer and I can't speak to their opinions but the
dynamic in this thread resembles the one discussed in this excellent talk [1]
by Evan Czaplicki, the creator of
*plonk*
Everybody, please just stop feeding the "Clark Block" troll.
Clark Block wrote on Tue, May 07, 2019 at 08:19:56PM -0300:
[more junk deleted]
On 5/7/19 4:23 PM, ropers wrote:
Tangentially related: Does anyone here routinely use the default fvwm?
Now for a really noobish question: Those that do, do you also launch
graphical apps by typing something like this in xterm:
$ firefox > /dev/null 2>&1 &
or do you normally do something else
I received the following private messages about a user-friendly and
easy-to-use variant of OpenBSD:
Clark,
great e-mail!
As you have noticed, the OpenBSD devs and even advocates tend to be quite
hostile towards ideas and viewpoints that don't fit their world.
I have had similar thoughts and
On 5/7/19 5:23 PM, ropers wrote:
Tangentially related: Does anyone here routinely use the default fvwm?
Now for a really noobish question: Those that do, do you also launch
graphical apps by typing something like this in xterm:
$ firefox > /dev/null 2>&1 &
or do you normally do something else
Hi,
ropers wrote on Wed, May 08, 2019 at 12:23:09AM +0200:
> Tangentially related: Does anyone here routinely use the default fvwm?
Yes, i don't use any other window manager.
> Now for a really noobish question: Those that do, do you also launch
> graphical apps by typing something like this
You can copy the system.fvwm2rc to /home/.fvwm and edit the root menu to
launch your apps.
But barring that, I just use firefox & in a terminal
On Tue, May 7, 2019 at 6:34 PM ropers wrote:
> Tangentially related: Does anyone here routinely use the default fvwm?
>
> Now for a really noobish
On Wed, 8 May 2019 00:23:09 +0200
ropers wrote:
> Tangentially related: Does anyone here routinely use the default fvwm?
>
> Now for a really noobish question: Those that do, do you also launch
> graphical apps by typing something like this in xterm:
>
> $ firefox > /dev/null 2>&1 &
>
> or do
Tangentially related: Does anyone here routinely use the default fvwm?
Now for a really noobish question: Those that do, do you also launch
graphical apps by typing something like this in xterm:
$ firefox > /dev/null 2>&1 &
or do you normally do something else that I've totally overlooked?
On May 7, 2019 3:39 PM, Steve Litt wrote:
>
> On Tue, 07 May 2019 14:47:15 -0500
> Edgar Pettijohn wrote:
>
>
> > I use dwm on everything so my desktop experience is the same
> > everywhere.
>
> Just the man I want to talk to.
>
> Do you have dmenu running on OpenBSD? Did you need to make
works like a sharm
On Tue, 7 May 2019, 6:14 pm Sean Howard I compiled dwm and dmenu directly and then just wrote an xinitrc, no
> adjustments necessary to be functional
>
> On Tue, May 7, 2019, 16:42 Steve Litt wrote:
>
> > On Tue, 07 May 2019 14:47:15 -0500
> > Edgar Pettijohn wrote:
> >
> >
I compiled dwm and dmenu directly and then just wrote an xinitrc, no
adjustments necessary to be functional
On Tue, May 7, 2019, 16:42 Steve Litt wrote:
> On Tue, 07 May 2019 14:47:15 -0500
> Edgar Pettijohn wrote:
>
>
> > I use dwm on everything so my desktop experience is the same
> >
On Tue, 07 May 2019 14:47:15 -0500
Edgar Pettijohn wrote:
> I use dwm on everything so my desktop experience is the same
> everywhere.
Just the man I want to talk to.
Do you have dmenu running on OpenBSD? Did you need to make adjustments
for ksh instead of sh or any other property of
On May 7, 2019 2:29 PM, Steve Litt wrote:
>
> On Tue, 7 May 2019 14:45:34 -0300
> Clark Block wrote:
>
> > Was developed the Isotop:
> >
> > https://www.reddit.com/r/BSD/comments/8of042/isotop_french_desktoporiented_openbsd_distro/
> >
> > https://3hg.fr/Isos/isotop/
> >
> > The Isotop is
On Tue, 7 May 2019 14:45:34 -0300
Clark Block wrote:
> Was developed the Isotop:
>
> https://www.reddit.com/r/BSD/comments/8of042/isotop_french_desktoporiented_openbsd_distro/
>
> https://3hg.fr/Isos/isotop/
>
> The Isotop is really a user-friendly and easy-to-use
> variant of OpenBSD or is
On Tue, 7 May 2019 19:02:57 +
Kent Watsen wrote:
> Probably not what the OP is looking for, but `tmux` is my current
> "window manager" of choice ;)
Along those lines I find i3 is the perfect wm companion to tmux :)
/jl
Probably not what the OP is looking for, but `tmux` is my current "window
manager" of choice ;)
K.
> On May 7, 2019, at 2:01 PM, Otto Moerbeek wrote:
>
> On Tue, May 07, 2019 at 02:01:34AM -0300, Clark Block wrote:
>
>> In 2019 still there is not a great desktop experience for NetBSD.
On Tue, May 07, 2019 at 02:01:34AM -0300, Clark Block wrote:
> In 2019 still there is not a great desktop experience for NetBSD. However,
> the new "OS108" is seeking to improve this with a NetBSD operating system
> paired with the MATE desktop environment.
> So, OS108, a derivative of NetBSD,
On Tue, 7 May 2019 10:14:33 +, John Long wrote:
> On Tue, 7 May 2019 08:47:18 +0200
> Denis Fondras wrote:
>
>> > user-friendly and easy-to-use
>> >
>>
>> Sounds like the exact description of current OpenBSD...
>
> +100
>
> This is exactly why I like and use it.
+1
Frank
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OpenBSD
Was developed the Isotop:
https://www.reddit.com/r/BSD/comments/8of042/isotop_french_desktoporiented_openbsd_distro/
https://3hg.fr/Isos/isotop/
The Isotop is really a user-friendly and easy-to-use
variant of OpenBSD or is foolish?
Awesome wm no more words needed
On May 7, 2019 7:01:34 AM GMT+02:00, Clark Block wrote:
>In 2019 still there is not a great desktop experience for NetBSD.
>However,
>the new "OS108" is seeking to improve this with a NetBSD operating
>system
>paired with the MATE desktop environment.
>So, OS108,
I'll respond directly here as I recognize you from another mailing
list we both are on :-)
This is *my* desktop of choice on OpenBSD:
https://sourceforge.net/p/cdesktopenv/wiki/OpenBSDBuild/
Why mess with something less tried or true?
On Tue, May 7, 2019 at 8:19 AM Christopher Turkel
wrote:
>
On Tue, May 07, 2019 at 10:06:19AM -0400, Christopher Turkel wrote:
> When I use
> any other OS I am always amazed how complicated they are.
This statement encapsulates why I like OpenBSD the best. I'm 40 and I've
got a five-year-old at home. When I need to use the computer, I'm
looking to get
On 5/7/19 11:11 AM, Jan Stary wrote:
>> That said, one of the things that NetBSD and OpenBSD have in common is
>> that they support quite a number of platforms, some of which were not
>> back in the day designed for graphics-heavy desktop use.
> And even there, everything works just fine:
>
I use OpenBSD as my daily driver as my desktop OS. It really is the easiest
OS I've ever used because of the wealth of documentation, everything is in
the man pages, with examples, plus so many resources on the web. When I use
any other OS I am always amazed how complicated they are.
On Tue, May
On 5/7/19 8:41 AM, Clark Block wrote:
Great desktop experience for OpenBSD is a user-friendly and easy-to-use
variant of OpenBSD!
Oh, and I've had a hope that you will be talking about OpenBSD
scheduler, POSIX threading implementation and what to do with it to make
it "great desktop
On May 07 09:03:06, pe...@bsdly.net wrote:
> On 5/7/19 7:01 AM, Clark Block wrote:
> > In 2019 still there is not a great desktop experience for NetBSD. However,
>
> As others have noted, what constitutes "a great desktop experience" is a
> highly subjective matter. One person's great desktop
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