Re: exploit for openbsd 3.9 php 4.4.1p0/5.0.5p0

2006-05-03 Thread Jacob Meuser
On Tue, May 02, 2006 at 10:05:28PM -0700, paul dansing wrote: Is there some reason this issue is being ignored? What, you people need to see an exploit before you will even LOOK at it and answer whether it is vuln? sorry, but wouldn't it make more sense to ask on a php list whether those

Re: exploit for openbsd 3.9 php 4.4.1p0/5.0.5p0

2006-05-03 Thread Kian Mohageri
Is somebody stopping you from installing via source? Kian paul dansing wrote: Is there some reason this issue is being ignored? What, you people need to see an exploit before you will even LOOK at it and answer whether it is vuln? Can someone please give a straight answer about these PHP

Re: PCMCIA on a laptop with a Insyde Software MobilePRO BIOS not working

2006-05-03 Thread Henrik Borgh
On 5/3/06, Lars Hansson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just good ole GENERIC with no parameters. Only thing that doesnt work are the APM and the temperature sensors. Oh well. I guess there is more to the Insyde BIOS than just meets the eye. I do hate the way Acer has implemented it, on the TM2400

Re: dell 2650 (-current)

2006-05-03 Thread Srebrenko Sehic
On 5/2/06, Okan Demirmen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi - So I have this wierd problem, which is duplicated on 3 identical machines, where I get a bunch of bmc_io_wait fails messages (see the end of the dmesg). The longer the machine is on, the more messages get tacked on. I'm wondering what this

de(4) NIC change in 3.9 release

2006-05-03 Thread Darren Spiteri
I updated my i386 3.8 system to 3.9 and noticed that my ALTQ rules wouldn't load on de0 de(4), giving error: pfctl: de0: driver does not support altq ALTQ worked before and I can't see any explicit notice of was this changed on purpose. Has anyone else come across this?

Re: exploit for openbsd 3.9 php 4.4.1p0/5.0.5p0

2006-05-03 Thread Marc Espie
On Tue, May 02, 2006 at 10:05:28PM -0700, paul dansing wrote: Is there some reason this issue is being ignored? What, you people need to see an exploit before you will even LOOK at it and answer whether it is vuln? I'm not the maintainer of php itself, but still I have an opinion. I don't

Re: using torrents for packages?

2006-05-03 Thread Falk Husemann
Isn`t it be possible to switch to torrents to install packages? Are you talking about a torrent for each package? No thanks. Grab them while you can, honey ;-) http://charybdis.xenon-nrw.net/~josen/OpenBSD_39_amd64_torrent/ This thread is the funniest and most useless I ever saw on misc.

Re: exploit for openbsd 3.9 php 4.4.1p0/5.0.5p0

2006-05-03 Thread Damien Miller
On Tue, 2 May 2006, paul dansing wrote: Is there some reason this issue is being ignored? What, you people need to see an exploit before you will even LOOK at it and answer whether it is vuln? It isn't our job to tell you what software is vulnerable. But maybe you should read your own email,

i386 chroot on amd64 platform (obsd 3.9)

2006-05-03 Thread Karel Gardas
Hello, I've installed OpenBSD 3.9(amd64) on AMD64 box and now I thought about installing i386 OpenBSD minimal install into this installation just to be able to chroot from amd64 environment to i386 without a need to reboot computer. I tried this, but it seems at least on GENERIC kernels it's

Re: X.Org server security vulnerability

2006-05-03 Thread patrick ~
Just a thought, but in accordance with FAQ section 5.5 Building X (http://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq5.html#Xbld) Shouldn't the patch instruct user to cd in /usr/Xbld to perform the make build? Best regards, --patrick Patch for 002_xorg.patch :-) --8CUT-8--

Re: OT: Thoe's x commit and homeland security audit

2006-05-03 Thread Jonathan Glaschke
On Tue, May 02, 2006 at 09:39:38PM -0400, Steve Shockley wrote: Ste Jones wrote: 7 days before the official patch 7 weeks. 7 days, watch here: Theo's patch +++ 2006/03/10 17:29:51 1.14 Xorg's patch +++ 2006-03-17 23:29:35.0 +0200 -- | /\ ASCII Ribbon | Jonathan Glaschke -

Re: exploit for openbsd 3.9 php 4.4.1p0/5.0.5p0

2006-05-03 Thread paul dansing
php is required in order to use many of the more mature web applications such as forum software. i run apache chroot, use modsecurity, and use ipf to limit the www user. a tight systrace policy might help but not very much incremental gain. everyone says php is a security breach waiting to

groff

2006-05-03 Thread D. E. Evans
I notice groff hasn't been updated in 2-3 years. Any particular reason?

Re: exploit for openbsd 3.9 php 4.4.1p0/5.0.5p0

2006-05-03 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2006/05/03 01:08, paul dansing wrote: also, i wish openbsd would release updated packages instead of just the patches. This generally does happen for security updates, look at e.g. openvpn in a 3.8 packages mirror (not one but two updates...they're not there for 3.9 yet, but port updates

Re: exploit for openbsd 3.9 php 4.4.1p0/5.0.5p0

2006-05-03 Thread Nico Meijer
Hi Paul, everyone says php is a security breach waiting to happen, so what else can i do if i want to use these large apps without rewriting them from scratch in another language? Stop complaining and actually do something about it. Playing victim is not going to get you anywhere. But let's

Re: exploit for openbsd 3.9 php 4.4.1p0/5.0.5p0

2006-05-03 Thread Robert Nagy
PHP will be updated in 3.9 and 3.8. But first we need to take the port in HEAD to 5.1.*. I alrady sent updates to mailing lists but Ido not see any test report from you. If we update a port in a stable branch we do build the updated packages. Maybe you should rad some documentation.

Re: exploit for openbsd 3.9 php 4.4.1p0/5.0.5p0

2006-05-03 Thread Rogier Krieger
On 5/3/06, paul dansing [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: php is required in order to use many of the more mature web applications such as forum software. It's open for debate whether maturity also extends to the platform chosen for an application. Fortunately, everyone gets to decide that for

Re: exploit for openbsd 3.9 php 4.4.1p0/5.0.5p0

2006-05-03 Thread Marc Espie
On Wed, May 03, 2006 at 01:08:50AM -0700, paul dansing wrote: also, i wish openbsd would release updated packages instead of just the patches. i would do it myself but who would trust a binary some random guy posts? openbsd maintainers have to step up and do this. why aren't you guys

Re: groff

2006-05-03 Thread Jason McIntyre
On Wed, May 03, 2006 at 02:32:28AM -0600, D. E. Evans wrote: I notice groff hasn't been updated in 2-3 years. Any particular reason? someone would need to step up and do the work, if they wanted it... jmc

Xen/OpenBSD Summer of Code project

2006-05-03 Thread Anil Madhavapeddy
We've put up some Xen-related projects for the Google Summer of Code, and one of them of particular interest is a port of OpenBSD to Xen 3.0 as a native guest OS. Full list: http://www.xensource.com/summerofcode.html Interested hackers are encouraged to apply; it is a fun project, some NetBSD

Re: OT: Thoe's x commit and homeland security audit

2006-05-03 Thread Constantine A. Murenin
On 03/05/06, Ste Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is Theo the automated code scanner mentioned here? http://news.yahoo.com/s/zd/20060502/tc_zd/177195 In reference to this commit http://www.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb/XF4/xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xfree86/common/xf86Init.c.diff?r1=1.13r2=1.14 7 days

Re: OT: Thoe's x commit and homeland security audit

2006-05-03 Thread Constantine A. Murenin
On 03/05/06, Constantine A. Murenin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 03/05/06, Ste Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is Theo the automated code scanner mentioned here? http://news.yahoo.com/s/zd/20060502/tc_zd/177195 In reference to this commit

Re: Nexthop changing in iBGP session using openbgpd against a Cisco

2006-05-03 Thread Dunc
Claudio Jeker wrote: On Thu, Apr 27, 2006 at 04:24:57PM +0100, Dunc wrote: Hi all, I'm trying to configure an OpenBSD box as a BGP route reflector. I have an iBGP peer configured to one of our core routers which has an eBGP session to one of our providers. I have configured that neighbor

The Japanese input

2006-05-03 Thread vladas
Hello all. Had working this by the time of the following post: http://archives.neohapsis.com/archives/openbsd/2005-11/1690.html Now with 3.9 GENERIC #723 i386 neither xemacs anthy or kinput2 -wnn (jserver) installs for me[1]. Would be really grateful if someone could possibly share the joy of

Re: i386 chroot on amd64 platform (obsd 3.9)

2006-05-03 Thread Nick Holland
Karel Gardas wrote: Hello, I've installed OpenBSD 3.9(amd64) on AMD64 box and now I thought about installing i386 OpenBSD minimal install into this installation just to be able to chroot from amd64 environment to i386 without a need to reboot computer. I tried this, but it seems at least on

Parabens

2006-05-03 Thread americanas
[IMAGE][IMAGE][IMAGE][IMAGE] PARABINS!!! Vocj acaba de ser sorteado na promogco (Assim de Prjmios na Americanas.com!!) Apss um processo de selegco intenso, o qual inclui pessoas cadastradas em sites de relacionamento, clientes de diversos provedores de servigos de internet (Ibest, UOL, Terra,

Re: build a kernel

2006-05-03 Thread holger glaess
hi after a rebuild of the gcc compiler with this instruction http://openbsd.org/faq/faq5.html#NewCompiler a kernel build and a make build will be successful. thanks to all for help. holger -Urspr|ngliche Nachricht- Von: holger glaess [EMAIL PROTECTED] Gesendet: 02.05.06 14:03:50 An:

Re: build a kernel

2006-05-03 Thread Tim Donahue
On Wednesday 03 May 2006 07:15, holger glaess wrote: hi after a rebuild of the gcc compiler with this instruction http://openbsd.org/faq/faq5.html#NewCompiler a kernel build and a make build will be successful. thanks to all for help. holger Building upgrades between versions is not

002 patch and priv sep

2006-05-03 Thread Will H. Backman
002 patch for 3.9 says crash it and to execute malicious code within the X server. What side of the privilege separated X does this apply to? -- Will Happy I don't install X on my servers Backman

disk bad block

2006-05-03 Thread Paulo Manoel Mafra
Hi misc, I would like to create a large partition on a disk, but this disk has a known bad block. How could I create the partition without the bad block ? One solution is to create two partitions without the bad block and use ccd. Is there another solution ? And is there any way to isolate some

Re: i386 chroot on amd64 platform (obsd 3.9)

2006-05-03 Thread Karel Gardas
Nick Holland wrote: Karel Gardas wrote: Hello, I've installed OpenBSD 3.9(amd64) on AMD64 box and now I thought about installing i386 OpenBSD minimal install into this installation just to be able to chroot from amd64 environment to i386 without a need to reboot computer. I tried this, but it

error clamav at 3.9

2006-05-03 Thread sonjaya
dear all i try install clamav and get erro # pkg_add -v ftp://ftp.openbsd.org/pub/OpenBSD/3.9/packages/i386/clamav-0.88.tgz parsing clamav-0.88 Error from ftp://ftp.openbsd.org/pub/OpenBSD/3.9/packages/i386/: Unknown command. Dependencies for clamav-0.88 resolve to: unzip-5.52,

Re: www.openbsd.org defaults to Japanese

2006-05-03 Thread Bob Beck
you've been redirected elsewhere? Sure doesn't here. -Bob * Tan Dang [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006-05-02 18:04]: Any reason why www.openbsd.org displays Japanese by default now? Tan -- | | | The ASCII Fork Campaign \|/ against gratuitous use of threads. |

Re: patch validation

2006-05-03 Thread Bob Beck
* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006-05-02 20:07]: yea. i'll keep that in mind. too bad it doesnt work in an audit. (Ahem) horseshit. If you as your regular business practice set up a procedure that the admins keep notes on a system and documents whenever fixes are applied (try

Re: Bootable Sparc64 CD

2006-05-03 Thread francisco
On Tue, 2 May 2006, Chris wrote: I would really love to experiment with building my own bootable Sparc64 CD - Is there a How-To on this? The best how-to i'm aware of: http://www.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb/src/distrib/sparc64/cdfs/Makefile?rev=1.11 Also read mkhybrid(8) and mksuncd(1) Enjoy,

Re: disk bad block

2006-05-03 Thread Tony
Paulo Manoel Mafra wrote: Hi misc, I would like to create a large partition on a disk, but this disk has a known bad block. How could I create the partition without the bad block ? One solution is to create two partitions without the bad block and use ccd. Is there another solution ?

Re: error clamav at 3.9

2006-05-03 Thread Michael Erdely
sonjaya wrote: dear all i try install clamav and get erro snip clamav-0.88:Can't find unarj-2.43 /usr/sbin/pkg_add: unarj-2.43:Fatal error Some of the dependencies, like unarj, don't have licenses that allow them to be posted to FTP sites. You have to build them yourself from /usr/ports.

Re: disk bad block

2006-05-03 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2006/05/03 10:24, Paulo Manoel Mafra wrote: I would like to create a large partition on a disk, but this disk has a known bad block. How could I create the partition without the bad block ? Use a different drive? It's normal for drives to have bad blocks, they used to be printed on a label

Re: exploit for openbsd 3.9 php 4.4.1p0/5.0.5p0

2006-05-03 Thread Stephen Takacs
paul dansing [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: php is required in order to use many of the more mature web applications such as forum software. i run apache chroot, use modsecurity, and use ipf to limit the www user. a tight systrace policy might help but not very much incremental gain. everyone

Re: Compilers make a system less secure?

2006-05-03 Thread Robert C Wittig
Hello chefren, Wednesday, May 3, 2006, 8:34:09 AM, you wrote: c There are lots of dangers, and of course there is need of an operator c but if guns are around even an child of 2 years old can kill someone. c Eh: Without the tool (gun): there is definitely no problem. Of course c it's possible

Re: OT: opinion on this opinion...

2006-05-03 Thread Bret Lambert
Ted Unangst wrote: On 5/2/06, poncenby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Taken from http://wiki.noreply.org/noreply/TheOnionRouter/ TorFAQ#ServerAnonymity FreeBSD 4.x, all versions of OpenBSD, and all versions of NetBSD have broken gethostbyname_r() implementations that cause Tor's threads to stomp on

Re: exploit for openbsd 3.9 php 4.4.1p0/5.0.5p0

2006-05-03 Thread Adam
On Wed, 3 May 2006 01:08:50 -0700 paul dansing [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: php is required in order to use many of the more mature web applications such as forum software. i run apache chroot, use modsecurity, and use ipf to limit the www user. a tight systrace policy might help but not very

Re: Compilers make a system less secure?

2006-05-03 Thread chefren
On 05/03/06 17:50, Robert C Wittig wrote: Hello chefren, .. Yeah... whatever. I choose not to live this way. Some things are not to be chosen by individuals in a civil society... On another topic... You might want to consider sending future replies to list, instead of sending them to

Re: Recommended NIC: Gbit Realtek or 100Mbit 3Com/Intel

2006-05-03 Thread Henning Brauer
* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006-05-03 00:44]: Hello, I'm thinking about playing with pfsync/carp a bit and for this I will need to buy few additional NICs. From various notes it seems Gbit Realtek chips might not be that crappy as their 100Mbit counterprarts (except 8139c+) and

FTP download/CD sales ratio

2006-05-03 Thread Bruno Carnazzi
Hi all, I'd just want to say that I've bought OpenBSD 3.9 CD's and still not received them ! So, I've download it (one time for home, one time for job), it's easier than waiting for the CDs :) But this let me think that the estimated FTP/CD ratio is not very meaningfull (about the money

Re: Linksys support... hmm

2006-05-03 Thread Bruno Carnazzi
2006/4/30, Shane J Pearson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi Lasse, On 2006.04.30, at 8:38 PM, Lasse Bach wrote: I also need to know if v5 of the WMP54G uses a Ralink Technology RT25x0 chip? Are you unable to avoid it? Maybe someone on the mailing list can provide me with an answer to: 2. Why are

Re: OT: Thoe's x commit and homeland security audit

2006-05-03 Thread Ted Unangst
On 5/3/06, Constantine A. Murenin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nothing to worry here, but it'll be fun to know how it actually was discovered. :) http://blogs.sun.com/roller/page/alanc?entry=security_hole_in_xorg_6

does openbsd support 64 bit counter

2006-05-03 Thread adrian kok
Hi all I heard from freebsd newsgroup that FreeBSD's internal network counters are 32-bit and can't support 64 bit counter in net-snmp! how abt openbsd? I need to run net-snmp to support 64 bit counter Thank you for your information. I am running freebsd 4.11 release and want to have

amilo 3438G and installing 3.9

2006-05-03 Thread Bachman Kharazmi
Hi I've problem to install 3.9 on my FS Amilo M3438G with a VIA VT6421 SATA and Intel 82801FB controller. When the installation starts it says, no disk could be found. In my bios I can only change minimized setting, I can't even see the harddrive listed there, but I can see the cdrom. I

Re: [UPDATE] php5 to version 5.1.2 (IMPORTANT)

2006-05-03 Thread Robert Nagy
5.1.3 eerr.

EHNT or other NetFlow tools

2006-05-03 Thread Nicholas Timperio
I couldn't find EHNT in ports or packages. Does anyone know if EHNT works on OpenBSD? Are there other NetFlow tools you use? thanks, Nicholas http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/

Re: Compilers make a system less secure?

2006-05-03 Thread Robert C Wittig
Hello chefren, Wednesday, May 3, 2006, 11:37:48 AM, you wrote: c This has nothing to do with OpenBSD and it's pretty impolite to c transfer information send to you personally to a mailing list. c You may wish to live that way but you won't make lots of friends with it. I have my MUA set so

Re: Compilers make a system less secure?

2006-05-03 Thread Robert C Wittig
Hello chefren, Wednesday, May 3, 2006, 11:37:48 AM, you wrote: For what it's worth... Also... I have threading enabled, so a reply of any sort from a list-mail will cue on the thread. In order to escape the sort rule, one must begin an entirely new email. I do not intentionally reply to

OT: X.org bug ( can someone enlighten me ? )

2006-05-03 Thread jamex
Hi, I don't understand this piece of code: if (getuid() == 0 || geteuid() != 0) Why check if the geteuid() != 0 if we are only wanting to root to run the block inside the if statement? My reasoning is that if geteuid != 0 then the statement evaluates to true and the code block gets run just

Evaluating load average

2006-05-03 Thread Will H. Backman
I'm looking for some hints on evaluating load average. I have a new system that is showing load averages over .50 most of the time, but I don't see that it is doing much according to systat vmstat. I figured that this machine would be way overpowered for the job it is doing. Is load average

Re: OT: X.org bug ( can someone enlighten me ? )

2006-05-03 Thread Ted Unangst
On 5/3/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I don't understand this piece of code: if (getuid() == 0 || geteuid() != 0) Why check if the geteuid() != 0 if we are only wanting to root to run the block inside the if statement? getuid returns the real user id, geteuid returns the

Re: Evaluating load average

2006-05-03 Thread Ted Unangst
On 5/3/06, Will H. Backman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm looking for some hints on evaluating load average. I have a new system that is showing load averages over .50 most of the time, but I don't see that it is doing much according to systat vmstat. I figured that this machine would be way

Re: Evaluating load average

2006-05-03 Thread Darrin Chandler
On Wed, May 03, 2006 at 03:30:35PM -0400, Will H. Backman wrote: I'm looking for some hints on evaluating load average. I have a new system that is showing load averages over .50 most of the time, but I don't see that it is doing much according to systat vmstat. I figured that this machine

Any people with a W83781D lm(4)?

2006-05-03 Thread Mark Kettenis
If you have this lm(4) variant, can you please mail me the output of sysctl hw.sensors? I'm trying to resolve an issue where the data sheet is unclear, and seeing some output from the real world will probably help me solve it. Mark

inexplicable behaviour on godaddy.com

2006-05-03 Thread prad
i'm using konqueror and everything is fantastic. except when i go to godaddy.com things are slow as molasses: the mouse takes several seconds to change from a hand to an arrow when leaving a link typing into forms takes several seconds per letter ftp access is quick until i try to download

Re: dell 2650 (-current)

2006-05-03 Thread Marco Peereboom
hmmm that should not have happened. I have to do some ipmi work one of these days so i'll add this one to the list of things to look at. On Tue, May 02, 2006 at 10:46:54AM -0400, Okan Demirmen wrote: Hi - So I have this wierd problem, which is duplicated on 3 identical machines, where I get a

Re: inexplicable behaviour on godaddy.com

2006-05-03 Thread Daniel Ouellet
prad wrote: i'm using konqueror and everything is fantastic. except when i go to godaddy.com snip all this seems to suggest that openbsd doesn't like godaddy.com for some reason (or visa versa). May be you are accessing many of their parked domains? (:

Re: [UPDATE] php5 to version 5.1.2 (IMPORTANT)

2006-05-03 Thread Robert Nagy
Hi. 5.0.3 is out so here is a new diff. Test it please. Index: Makefile === RCS file: /cvs/ports/www/php5/Makefile,v retrieving revision 1.1.1.1 diff -u -r1.1.1.1 Makefile --- Makefile2 Oct 2004 11:32:35 - 1.1.1.1 +++

Re: Evaluating load average

2006-05-03 Thread Josh Tolley
On 5/3/06, Will H. Backman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm looking for some hints on evaluating load average. I have a new system that is showing load averages over .50 most of the time, but I don't see that it is doing much according to systat vmstat. I figured that this machine would be way

Re: EHNT or other NetFlow tools

2006-05-03 Thread Aaron Glenn
On 5/3/06, Nicholas Timperio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I couldn't find EHNT in ports or packages. Does anyone know if EHNT works on OpenBSD? Are there other NetFlow tools you use? thanks, Nicholas http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ pmacct works great; I've been

Re: EHNT or other NetFlow tools

2006-05-03 Thread tdonahue
I couldn't find EHNT in ports or packages. Does anyone know if EHNT works on OpenBSD? Are there other NetFlow tools you use? thanks, Nicholas http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ I have not had time to look at these but the following ports come up in a quick

appling X-Patch - make build breaks?

2006-05-03 Thread sebastian . rother
I applied the X-Patch and got this error: main.c:371: error: syntax error before if Error Code 1 Stop in /usr/XF4/xc-old/programms/Xserver/hw/xfree86/XF86Setup Error Code 1 ftp://ftp.openbsd.org/pub/OpenBSD/patches/3.9/common/002_xorg.patch Instructions: Apply by doing: cd

Re: appling X-Patch - make build breaks?

2006-05-03 Thread Rogier Krieger
On 5/4/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Stop in /usr/XF4/xc-old/programms/Xserver/hw/xfree86/XF86Setup A quick guess: did you install the tcl and tk packages? IIRC, the FAQ mentions those as a prerequisite for building XF86Setup on i386. The lines in the preceding source code

Re: appling X-Patch - make build breaks?

2006-05-03 Thread Ted Unangst
On 5/3/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I applied the X-Patch and got this error: main.c:371: error: syntax error before if Error Code 1 Stop in /usr/XF4/xc-old/programms/Xserver/hw/xfree86/XF86Setup Error Code 1

de NIC change - ALTQ broken

2006-05-03 Thread Darren Spiteri
I updated my i386 3.8 system to 3.9 and noticed that my ALTQ rules wouldn't load on de0 de(4), giving error: pfctl: de0: driver does not support altq ALTQ worked before and I can't see any explicit notice of this being disabled on purpose. Has anyone else come across this?

Re: FTP download/CD sales ratio

2006-05-03 Thread Eric Johnson
On Wed, 3 May 2006 21:25:10 +0400 Bruno Carnazzi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, I'd just want to say that I've bought OpenBSD 3.9 CD's and still not received them ! So, I've download it (one time for home, one time for job), it's easier than waiting for the CDs :) But this let me think

Re: FTP download/CD sales ratio

2006-05-03 Thread Michael Erdely
Eric Johnson wrote: I've had a OpenBSD subscription through bsdmall for some time. That way, I don't have to remember to order the CDs, they just arrive and my credit card gets billed automagically. You don't HAVE to remember. Theo reminds you at the VERY earliest that you can order CDs. As