New Dogs, Old Tricks
I don’t see many honey bees this year. I’ve read where domesticated
colonies are continuing to collapse from some mystery illness
researchers have yet to pinpoint... combination of things most likely.
I wonder if the sickness has invaded the wild colonies too. Maybe
though it
Hello everyone
On Sat, May 1, 2010 at 2:48 PM, Mary marysonth...@gmail.com wrote:
My question centers around the nature of belief. How do we become
convinced? What is necessary to achieve the state of being convinced of
anything? It seems much easier to convince a child of anything than to
Hello everyone
On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 2:34 AM, MarshaV val...@att.net wrote:
Greetings Dan,
Hey Marsha
Marsha:
For me, all that is known is ever-changing, dependent, impermanent
patterns.
Dan:
Sounds good.
Marsha:
When I label intellectual patterns as SOM I am describing how they are
Hello everyone
On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 10:26 AM, skut...@online.no wrote:
Dan and Group.
1 May.:
Mary had written:
My question centers around the nature of belief. How do we become
convinced? What is necessary to achieve the state of being convinced
of anything? It seems much easier
Hello everyone
On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 12:01 PM, Mary marysonth...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Dan,
Nice to hear from you. Wish you would post more often.
Hi Mary
It's good to hear from you as well. Though I'd like to post more
often, unlike John, I rarely get two hour lunches.
On Behalf Of Dan
Hello everyone
On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 2:34 AM, Marsha Valkyr val...@att.net wrote:
Marsha:
When I label intellectual patterns as SOM I am describing how they are
perceived, or how they function in consciousness. I-spov represent reified
concepts and the rules for their manipulation.
2010/5/12 Fam. Kintziger-Karaca kintziger_kar...@hotmail.com:
Hi all, Bo, Marsha,Horse,Andre, Dmb, Arlo.. etc;
FF een vraagje tussendoor ,Andre ,(als het mag), ik zag uiteraard je naam ,
...
en als belg dus , dacht ik meteen, hebben we hier nou een echte Hollander..
Mijn Grootvader was een
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On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 7:56 PM, Mary marysonth...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Platt Bo,
[dmb said]
I mean, the analytic knife has to cut somewhere so that even the
DQ/sq
distinction counts as a pair of opposites.
Dynamic Quality is value and thus is very easily distinguished.
Hello everyone
On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 6:53 AM, Mary marysonth...@gmail.com wrote:
Dan throws a smoke bomb and runs for the door.
Dan:
We perceive Dynamic Quality all the time. And no, Platt isn't on
target. Not even in the ballpark.
[Mary Replies]
Yes, we perceive Dynamic Quality all
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On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 10:24 AM, platthol...@gmail.com wrote:
On 18 Jun 2010 at 0:41, Dan Glover wrote:
We perceive Dynamic Quality all the time. And no, Platt isn't on
target. Not even in the ballpark.
Hey Dan,
Good to hear from you.
Hi Platt, thank you! Good to hear
Hello everyone
On Sat, Jun 19, 2010 at 9:54 AM, platthol...@gmail.com wrote:
On 18 Jun 2010 at 15:52, Dan Glover wrote:
Platt:
But, with all due respect, DQ isn't something we
perceive. That's SOM. Seen from the MOQ perspective DQ is the both the
perceiver and the perceived prior
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On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 10:57 AM, david buchanan dmbucha...@hotmail.com wrote:
dmb said:
.., the analytic knife has to cut somewhere so that even the DQ/sq
distinction counts as a pair of opposites.
Dan said:
I suspect that to count it as a pair of opposites with static
Hello everyone
On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 4:43 PM, Ham Priday hampd...@verizon.net wrote:
Greetings, Dan [Platt quoted] --
On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 6:24 AM, Platt wrote:
Good to hear from you. But, with all due respect,
DQ isn't something we perceive. That's SOM.
Seen from the MOQ perspective
Thirty spokes meet at a nave;
Because of the hole we may use the wheel.
Clay is moulded into a vessel;
Because of the hollow we may use the cup.
Walls are built around a hearth;
Because of the doors we may use the house.
Thus tools come from what exists,
But use from what does not.
Hello everyone
On Fri, Jun 25, 2010 at 11:24 AM, Krimel kri...@krimel.com wrote:
Thirty spokes meet at a nave;
Because of the hole we may use the wheel.
Clay is moulded into a vessel;
Because of the hollow we may use the cup.
Walls are built around a hearth;
Because of the doors we may use
Hello everyone
On Fri, Jun 25, 2010 at 10:44 AM, david buchanan dmbucha...@hotmail.com wrote:
Bo said to Dan and dmb:
But for Goodness sake The MOQ does say that there is a Dynamic Quality as
dynamic as dynamic comes, so why postulate another still more dynamic one
that the first variety
Hello everyone
On Sat, Jun 26, 2010 at 9:24 AM, Fam. Kintziger-Karaca
kintziger_kar...@hotmail.com wrote:
Greet gang Dan, DMB
nice , (et al) seen here sometimes , i never use it , but anyway , et all= et
alli, meaning and others
(alli) also spelles as LILA, try ,it contains all letters
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On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 9:32 PM, david buchanan dmbucha...@hotmail.com wrote:
Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2010 18:33:40 -0500
From: daneglo...@gmail.com
To: moq_disc...@moqtalk.org
Subject: [MD] Quality/Tao
Thirty spokes meet at a nave;
Because of the hole we may use the wheel.
Hello everyone
On Sat, Jun 26, 2010 at 8:41 AM, Krimel kri...@krimel.com wrote:
Thirty spokes meet at a nave;
Because of the hole we may use the wheel.
Clay is moulded into a vessel;
Because of the hollow we may use the cup.
Walls are built around a hearth;
Because of the doors we may use
Hello everyone
On Sun, Jun 27, 2010 at 8:44 AM, Platt Holden platthol...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sat, Jun 26, 2010 at 11:48 PM, Dan Glover daneglo...@gmail.com wrote:
Hello everyone
Napoleon Hill wrote extensively about this in the early part of the
twentieth century. One particular story
Hello everyone
On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 3:51 PM, Platt Holden platthol...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 8:01 PM, Dan Glover daneglo...@gmail.com wrote:
You subscribe to Bodvar's SOL. You see yourself as a subject forever
apart and separate from the objects of your observation.
So
Hello everyone
On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 4:58 AM, Andre Broersen andrebroer...@gmail.com wrote:
Dan to everyone:
Problems are opportunities for improvement. I'd have to go back and
review the archives but right off hand I don't recall any problems
with Quality vs Dynamic Quality. As I said in
Hello everyone
I think it is a shame that Bodvar is putting Horse in this position.
It shouldn't happen here of all places, a forum dedicated to Quality.
Where is the Quality, Bodvar, in claiming intellectual falsehoods to
suit your own purposes?
Dan
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On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 9:06 PM, Mary marysonth...@gmail.com wrote:
What was it like for you the first time? I bought the first book thinking I
was reading just another novel, but by the end it had turned into a Holy
Shit experience I didn't expect. Caught me totally off
Hello everyone
On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 11:21 AM, platthol...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi All,
At the risk of beating a dead horse and getting banned I offer the following
Pirsig quote as further evidence that including the MOQ in the intellectual
level doesn't make sense.
The Metaphysics of
On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 7:49 PM, Mary marysonth...@gmail.com wrote:
[Matt]
However, what is this line? What actions are we talking
about? Is nobody reading the junk I wrote? I'm saying that
blaspheming against intellectual integrity doesn't to me seem
easily posed as a criterion with which
Hello everyone
On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 2:18 PM, platthol...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi All,
Speaking of intellectual honesty, it seems some here are absolutely sure they
know an absolute lie when they see it, and woe unto anyone who doubts their
judgment. Yet, when it comes to truth on which the
Hello everyone
On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 12:29 PM, Magnus Berg mcmag...@home.se wrote:
Ok, ok Ian
I heard you the first time, this is the 3rd. Thanks for the heads up.
I honestly don't pay much attention to quotes other than their face value,
so especially such personal pads on the back goes
Hello everyone
On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 8:42 AM, platthol...@gmail.com wrote:
On 8 Jul 2010 at 19:35, Dan Glover wrote:
Hello everyone
On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 11:21 AM, platthol...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi All,
At the risk of beating a dead horse and getting banned I offer the
following
Hello everyone
On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 6:43 PM, John Carl ridgecoy...@gmail.com wrote:
Hello Dan,
That's what gets me riled. One comment. How dismissive. I worked on
that manuscript for thousands of hours. And you're going to dismiss it
all. Well fuck you very much. That's all I can say.
Hello everyone
On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 8:49 AM, Fam. Kintziger-Karaca
kintziger_kar...@hotmail.com wrote:
Greetzz, gang
QUOTE , Dan;
I am all these things, sadness, madness, laughter and sorrow. All
these feelings populate my mind and guide me on the way. I look back
where I've been but it
Hello everyone
On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 6:54 PM, John Carl ridgecoy...@gmail.com wrote:
Bo's clinging = fear of death.
Dan comments:
We're, each and every one of us, dying men and women, and we're all
afraid of that dark. We can't help it. We talk to God; it doesn't
help; He never answers. Not
On Sat, Jul 10, 2010 at 5:20 AM, Magnus Berg mcmag...@home.se wrote:
Hi Dan
Dan:
I am interested. Please cite the comments you have problems with and
let's see if we can hash it out.
Ok, I started by changing the subject, but then? Let's see...
P.13 (probably 13 years ago), I was
On Sat, Jul 10, 2010 at 6:09 PM, Magnus Berg mcmag...@home.se wrote:
Hi Dan
Dan:
Let's begin by saying the levels in the MOQ are provisional... they
describe reality but we won't actually find levels out there to
examine and investigate.
Yes we do!
I have spent 13 years on and off to
Hello everyone
On Sat, Jul 10, 2010 at 8:25 PM, Steven Peterson
peterson.st...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi dmb, Dan, Horse
Dan said to John:
I never thought Bo should be banned...
dmb says:
Right. Exactly.
Steve:
If those supporting Horse's action don't think Bo ought to be banned
then I am
Hello everyone
On Sun, Jul 11, 2010 at 5:13 AM, Magnus Berg mcmag...@home.se wrote:
Hi Dan
Dan:
Make it up as I go along? Come on. I thought you wanted to discuss the
RMP annotations, Magnus. And here you are being a dick.
Am I? I don't know.
Imagine you got an old Egyptian stone tablet
Hello everyone
On Sun, Jul 11, 2010 at 12:36 PM, Steven Peterson
peterson.st...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Dan,
Steve:
If those supporting Horse's action don't think Bo ought to be banned
then I am as confused as Matt is about what administrative action we
are talking about here. I mean, yeah,
. I neither have nor want anything to do with enforcing the
rules of this forum.
Thank you for the agreement, though.
Dan
On Behalf Of Dan Glover
Sent: Saturday, July 10, 2010 10:08 PM
To: moq_disc...@moqtalk.org
Subject: Re: [MD] Intellectual honesty
Hello everyone
On Sat, Jul 10
On Sun, Jul 11, 2010 at 4:55 PM, Horse ho...@darkstar.uk.net wrote:
Hi Magnus
On 11/07/2010 21:09, Magnus Berg wrote:
Yes, when you start thinking in these lines, you get to a point where
there's simply no way out, without adjusting the levels as described in Lila
that is. Pirsig for
Hello everyone
Hey, John... first of all, thanks for the story. Myself, I don't
believe in God. I don't not-believe in God either, though. You see,
this I that I'm so free with, well, I can't find it, anywhere.
Believe me, I've looked on mountain tops and in temples. But there is
nothing here
Hello everyone
On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 11:46 AM, david buchanan dmbucha...@hotmail.com wrote:
Magnus said to Dan:
Of course the MoQ isn't reality itself, it's an intellectual pattern that
describes reality in much the same way a physical formula does.
However, in the same way a physical
Hello Mary
It's very nice to hear from you again. I remember enjoying your posts
a great deal and I miss your father's good sense. I see you've
received some great answers already to your very good questions.
Everyone comes at life from their own perspective, of course, so there
are as many
I go away every year after the holidays. I drive 2 days to reach the
mountains, then park and walk. Hunting season's over by then and I'm
as alone as I want to be. I am the cheese.
I used to drink a great deal. I'd start in the morning and wouldn't
quit until I fell unconscious. One morning I
Hi Caig
Thank you for the kind words. My work on LILA'S CHILD was more on the
editing end, so technically I haven't written a book. Yet. I'm putting
together a collection of short stories. It may be ready for
publication next year. Unlike some here, I have no compunction
whatsoever in making a few
Hi Mary
Thank you. I don't contribute often but I do enjoy reading the posts
each morning. I find by not responding that I tend to read more deeply
than if I am thinking of what to say.
From time to time I find I have some generally insignificant words to
add and it's gratifying that someone
Hello everyone
On Sat, Dec 19, 2009 at 12:14 PM, Mary Clark marysonth...@gmail.com wrote:
Greetings,
The other day I responded to Platt by saying that we are not as free as we
think we are.
Hi Mary
If you don't mind me asking... free to do what?
Mary:
Surely this is not the forum to
Hi Mary
Actually I do have a tv. My daughter and son in law thought I was in
need and bought me one 2 years ago. No cable or satellite though. I
tried to get a premium movie channel but the cable company told me I
had to have a basic package first. Why? I don't want a basic package!
All I want
Hello everyone
On Sun, Dec 27, 2009 at 2:35 PM, John Carl ridgecoy...@gmail.com wrote:
Good morning Marsha,
John earlier:
Experience can't be what you describe, either unpatterned or without
staticity. The very defining of experience requires a static pattern in
order to be experienced.
of the above' type of
answer, one I cannot help but admire. What do you think?
Marsha
On Dec 28, 2009, at 4:22 PM, Dan Glover wrote:
Hello everyone
On Sun, Dec 27, 2009 at 2:35 PM, John Carl ridgecoy...@gmail.com wrote:
Good morning Marsha,
John earlier:
Experience can't be what you
From: Dan Glover daneglo...@gmail.com
To: moq_disc...@moqtalk.org
Sent: Tue, December 29, 2009 6:11:44 AM
Subject: Re: [MD] The MOQ and religions.
Hey Marsha
I recall that Mr. Pirsig's answer here tied together many loose ends
for me at the time. It is a simple yet elegant explanation
I've been thinking in terms of value for some years now. There are no
subjects and objects. They're only a convenient fiction, something
we're taught to believe our whole life. This teaching runs very
deep... just look at the energy Bo has expended over the years
perpetuating that belief through
Oh my yes good x-mas presents for sure... 'specially the speedos. Wow.
Way cool. But can you carry that big ol' book around in your pocket? I
bet not... and I'm sorry but something tells me you're not going to
impress the chicks with what's in it either... maybe put them to sleep
though.
All I
Hello everyone
On Fri, Jan 1, 2010 at 2:27 PM, John Carl ridgecoy...@gmail.com wrote:
Marsha,
Happy new Calendar Year,
Marsha:
Love to hear some plains talk on this post. What is your
objection?
John:
It's hard to conjure up any real objection to contentment, or any real
longing for
over my shoulder.
Gimmee your address and I'll send you a better present than a bottle you
can't drink or a book you can't read.
Contentedly yours,
John
On Thu, Dec 31, 2009 at 6:07 PM, Dan Glover daneglo...@gmail.com wrote:
Oh my yes good x-mas presents for sure... 'specially the speedos
asshole
On Sat, Jan 2, 2010 at 10:29 AM, Krimel kri...@krimel.com wrote:
[Dan]
Try believing now that the world is composed of value. The world is an
idea. It is like plastic... as soft and as pliable as your thoughts...
take it and mold it any way you want. All you have to do is believe -
On Sat, Jan 2, 2010 at 10:25 AM, Krimel kri...@krimel.com wrote:
[Steve]
The intellectual level of evolution is the collection of all intellectual
patterns of value.
[Krimel]
Exactly!
Dan:
Not exactly. Evolution isn't a level, is it? Evolution is what drives
the levels. Evolutionary history
believe in such tripe as free will. Changed
your mind have you? Think you're real yet?
Just wonderin'
innocent bystander John
On Sat, Jan 2, 2010 at 12:41 PM, Dan Glover daneglo...@gmail.com wrote:
asshole
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On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 9:59 AM, Krimel kri...@krimel.com wrote:
[Steve]
The intellectual level of evolution is the collection of all intellectual
patterns of value.
[Krimel]
Exactly!
[Dan:]
Not exactly. Evolution isn't a level, is it? Evolution is what drives
the levels.
Hello everyone
On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 6:14 PM, Steven Peterson
peterson.st...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Dan,
On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 12:01 AM, Dan Glover daneglo...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sat, Jan 2, 2010 at 10:25 AM, Krimel kri...@krimel.com wrote:
[Steve]
The intellectual level of evolution
Hello everyone
On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 8:45 PM, KAYE PALM-LEIS mkp...@wildblue.net wrote:
Krimel
[Krimel]
So you agree that DQ is simply change and uncertainty?
Mati: Well more like I don't think we are at point to argue this
point.
Dan:
Dynamic Quality can be change and it's motis operandi
Hello everyone
On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 12:55 PM, John Carl ridgecoy...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 8:21 AM, Krimel kri...@krimel.com wrote:
[Dan]
Krimel is an old friend. My 'asshole' statement had more to do with
his rebuttal to my original statement than to him personally. I
Hello everyone
On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 11:41 PM, John Carl ridgecoy...@gmail.com wrote:
Dan,
On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 7:41 PM, Dan Glover daneglo...@gmail.com wrote:
Dan:
This is all true. So. Do you believe that reality as you understand it
to be is something solid and separate from you
Hello everyone
On Mon, Jan 4, 2010 at 11:30 AM, John Carl ridgecoy...@gmail.com wrote:
Greetings Steve,
On Mon, Jan 4, 2010 at 8:50 AM, Steven Peterson
peterson.st...@gmail.comwrote:
Hi John,
For the following, I do like Steve's formulation mostly. I think he's
missing key pieces
On Mon, Jan 4, 2010 at 10:11 PM, Krimel kri...@krimel.com wrote:
[Krimel]
Evolution doesn't drive anything. It is a description of how patterns
adapt in response to change, flux, uncertainty; in other words dynamic
quality. Evolution is a reflexive process where the output of one cycle
On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 11:24 PM, KAYE PALM-LEIS mkp...@wildblue.net wrote:
Dan,
It is good to hear from you.
And from you all well, Mati.
Dan:
Dynamic Quality can be change and it's motis operandi is uncertainty
but I don't agree with Krimel's statement. Too vague.
Mati: Again I feel DQ
On Mon, Jan 4, 2010 at 10:24 PM, Krimel kri...@krimel.com wrote:
Dan:
This is all true. So. Do you believe that reality as you understand it
to be is something solid and separate from you as an individual?
[Krimel]
Reality as I understand it is a set of concepts I have acquire over the
Hi Andre
What a great quote! I remember thinking what a treasure trove I'd
received from Robert Pirsig when he first sent me his annotations.
Each one seemed like a little gold nugget to be secretly hoarded. But
then I thought how much others would enjoy them too. Thanks for
reminding me of that
On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 10:59 AM, Krimel kri...@krimel.com wrote:
[Krimel]
Reality as I understand it is a set of concepts I have acquired over the
course of a lifetime of being in the world.
[Craig].
So is English as you understand it, a set of concepts you have acquired
over the course of
chaos
A new branch of science that deals with systems whose evolution
depends very sensitively upon the initial conditions. Turbulent flows
of fluids (such as white water in a river) and the prediction of the
weather are two areas where chaos theory has been applied with some
success.
For John,
You don't do any one thing. That's cornball style.
When we first meet people invariably ask what I do. I know what they
mean. They expect a stock answer so I give them one. Maybe I'll say
I'm a real estate Broker. I might tell them I fix motorcycles. It
doesn't matter as long as it
Apache Nation
And if you take a sheep and put it up at the timberline at night when
the wind is roaring, that sheep will be panicked half to death and
will call and call until the shepherd comes, or comes the wolf. (ZMM)
At the end of a mountain-shadowed dirt road there's a dusty
round-a-bout
Hi Lu
Thank you! I enjoyed your story too. But I was really pulling for you
to be on the right road. Darn.
Dan
On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 11:22 AM, Louise Pryor bypryordes...@gmail.com wrote:
Wow... Excellent story, Dan, thank you.
Lu
On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 2:51 AM, Dan Glover daneglo
gav, you're always gonna get that stupid shit from people... you need
to work for money cuz its more efficient. the money has nothing to do
with it! a person needs to work to survive, nothing more.
good for you. i think it's awesome you can do what you're doing.
myself, i've been self employed
--- On Mon, 22/2/10, Dan Glover daneglo...@gmail.com wrote:
From: Dan Glover daneglo...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [MD] Capitalism: my experience
To: moq_disc...@moqtalk.org
Received: Monday, 22 February, 2010, 11:27 AM
gav, you're always gonna get that
stupid shit from people... you need
Hi Ham, John, Arlo, and all...
Back in 1998, Bodvar Skutvik asked me if I thought it possible to put
the old Lila Squad archives into some kind of coherent format. I told
him: No. Absolutely not.
But we all know Bodvar... he is nothing if not persistent. He asked me
again and again, I told him:
Hello everyone
On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 11:40 PM, Ham Priday hampd...@verizon.net wrote:
Greetings, Dan --
Thank you for taking the time to chronicle the story of LILA'S CHILD. Since
Lila's Squad predates my history with the MD, I never quite understood how
this book came about. You've now
Dear Mary
Thank you for the terrible tale. I didn't like reading it but I had
to, over and over. Later, I did a prayer for you during afternoon
meditation. Still later... this story appeared on the monitor. I don't
recall writing it so perhaps it belongs to you...
Walking on Clouds...
After we
Hello everyone
On Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 10:44 AM, John Carl ridgecoy...@gmail.com wrote:
Mary:
Those who know me keep saying I should write a book, because I have a book
worth of ideas to write about.
John:
I agree you should write. I like reading your words, and I'm picky.
Mary:
I
Hello everyone
On Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 2:18 PM, david buchanan dmbucha...@hotmail.com wrote:
[snip]
Sure, we tend to like the people who agree with us but that's just the ego's
satisfaction, not the intellect's. Given that this is supposed to be a place
to discuss metaphysics, to debate
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On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 12:31 PM, david buchanan dmbucha...@hotmail.com wrote:
dmb said:
Given that this is supposed to be a place to discuss metaphysics, to debate
philosophical issues, all this other stuff seems like a distraction. To be
honest, I don't really care if that
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On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 1:23 AM, John Carl ridgecoy...@gmail.com wrote:
Dan:
I understand. Something of substance stands on its own. I have to say
I was a bit shocked that in one of his posts John referred to American
Idol in regards to my writings, as if I'm trying to one-up
of it...
For those of you who missed it:
--(cut - paste)---
From: Dan Glover daneglo...@hotmail.com
To: moq_disc...@moqtalk.org
Date: Tue, 5 May 2009 02:01:51 -0500
Subject: Re: [MD] (no subject)
Driving down the road one day, in a hurry as usual, I caught sight of a sign
just as I passed
Hello everyone
On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 12:28 PM, Louise Pryor bypryordes...@gmail.com wrote:
The only person I can change is myself... BUT, *I* cannot change me all by
myself.
The only way I can change, grow, become better, is by listening to the input
of others, people I like and respect,
Soul as a Verb
I have some extra parts left over.
The old boy whom I hired to rebuild carburetors for me seemed
perplexed. Call him Ed. I explained that the kit was made for several
different makes and that was why he ended up with seeming extra parts.
At least I hoped that was why. I have to
Hello everyone
On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 11:20 PM, david buchanan dmbucha...@hotmail.com wrote:
Dan:
I don't think you're being particularly careless about people or bad with
people. It's just that being polite or nice isn't always the most appropriate
reaction. If you're paying money to the
Hello everyone
On Sun, Dec 5, 2010 at 8:55 AM, Horse ho...@darkstar.uk.net wrote:
Hi Marsha
Or how about sex is one method by which the means of reproduction is
achieved - there are other methods of reproduction. And, often, we get to
sex by the social 'dance' - literally in some cases! The
Hello everyone
On Sun, Dec 5, 2010 at 10:05 AM, MarshaV val...@att.net wrote:
Dan,
It's words, their definitions and connotations, that were are using
nothing physical.
Dan:
Yes, Words are how we express value. They are not the value they express.
Thank you,
Dan
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Nah.
On Tue, Dec 7, 2010 at 5:31 AM, David Thomas
combinedeffo...@earthlink.net wrote:
Yup.
On 12/7/10 3:47 AM, Ian Glendinning ian.glendinn...@gmail.com wrote:
http://dilbert.com/strips/comic/2010-12-07/
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On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 3:33 AM, John Carl ridgecoy...@gmail.com wrote:
I'd say they'd also articulated a certain stubbornly obtuse evasion of
sincere philosophical discussion, Matt.
Their I wasn't being too faithful and their non-language an expression of
not I - as in, who
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On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 12:09 PM, John Carl ridgecoy...@gmail.com wrote:
Dan,
I assure you that I'm being sincere when I say the only reality I can ever
experience meaningfully is through a narrative of relative concepts- which
is what language is and thus it seems to me, the
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On Thu, Dec 9, 2010 at 2:38 PM, Jan-Anders janander...@telia.com wrote:
I may be fooled by my Kung Fu teacher who come directly from the shao lin
temple, but his interpretation of Kung Fu is very much hard work done.
Dan:
The Grandmaster told us that Kung Fu was originally
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On Sun, Dec 12, 2010 at 12:30 PM, Ham Priday hampd...@verizon.net wrote:
Hi Horse [Tim mentioned] --
Horse:
'=' in the sense that Quality = Reality is saying that they are the
same thing.
If I refer to Venus, the Morning Star or the Evening Star by saying Venus
= Morning Star
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On Sat, Dec 11, 2010 at 10:58 PM, John Carl ridgecoy...@gmail.com wrote:
Greetings Dan and everyone,
john prev:
I assure you that I'm being sincere when I say the only reality I can
ever
experience meaningfully is through a narrative of relative concepts- which
is
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On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 1:41 PM, John Carl ridgecoy...@gmail.com wrote:
Dan and Matt,
I was reading along Matt's response to dmb in this thread and I came across
this:
--
Matt:
I could hardly take the idea that Rorty articulates the slogan it's
language all the
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On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 11:58 AM, John Carl ridgecoy...@gmail.com wrote:
Something has bothered me quite a bit for a long time, and I'm gonna fumble
through an analogy of sitting on a hot stove in three different
environments, in order to get at the conceptualization (of
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On Sun, Dec 19, 2010 at 6:46 PM, John Carl ridgecoy...@gmail.com wrote:
Greetings, Dan.
Dan:
You're missing the whole point, John. The hot stove analogy is meant
to show experience BEFORE conceptualization. That's what I was trying
to tell you when you were going on about
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On Sun, Dec 19, 2010 at 8:31 PM, 118 ununocti...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi John, Dan,
On Sun, Dec 19, 2010 at 6:03 PM, Dan Glover daneglo...@gmail.com wrote:
You're framing this intellectually and logically but you're missing
the Dynamic issues that RMP is attempting to bring
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On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 12:04 AM, John Carl ridgecoy...@gmail.com wrote:
Salutations Dan and all,
John:
Without this meaning, there is no experience.
If a tree falls in the forest, without a hearer, then it makes no sound,
is
what I claim.
Dan:
How do you know?
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On Sun, Dec 19, 2010 at 11:55 PM, 118 ununocti...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sun, Dec 19, 2010 at 7:39 PM, Dan Glover daneglo...@gmail.com wrote:
Dan:
From LILA:
Dynamic Quality is the pre-intellectual cutting edge of reality, the
source of all things, completely simple and always
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On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 1:28 PM, John Carl ridgecoy...@gmail.com wrote:
Mornin' Dan,
John prev.
Sound is defined by the physical impact of waves in a medium (air) upon
an
eardrum. Without an eardrum, there may be (and probably is) some sort of
phenomenon but it can't be
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