[NTG-context] ConteXt commands in an rtl environment
I am having trouble entering ConteXt commands in an rtl language, in this
case Hebrew.
How does one make the last(left hand) letter of the Hebrew word
אשר
a superscript?
My experiments with \high{...} have not been successful so far in part, I
think, because I have not got the brackets right.
Any tips or pointers will be gratefully received.
Alan
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[NTG-context] Re: Why are ConTeXt-SBL endnotes empty?
Changing location=none to location=text still left me with the bullet points
appearing in a big list at the end of my chapter, but without any messages in
them.
On Monday, April 22, 2024 at 07:54:39 AM MDT, Joel via ntg-context
wrote:
A few years back, I tried using endnotes with ConTeXt-SBL, and it failed to
compile. I'm forced to try again (due to some other issue with footnotes), and
instead of compiling to error, it compiles, but the footnote's message ends up
being empty.
Why is it appearing empty? Is there a fix?
Here is a minimum working example:
\usemodule[publ-imp-sbl]
\startbuffer [bib]
@Article{na2006,
title={Volcanoes \word{of} New Mexico},
year={2006},
journal={New Mexico Earth Matters},
publisher={New Mexico Bureau \word{of} Geology \word{and} Mineral Resources},
volume={6},
number={1},
location={Socorro, New Mexico}
}
@Book{clark1989,
author = {Clark, William},
title = {Railroads \word{and} railroad towns \word{in} New Mexico},
publisher = {New Mexico Magazine},
year = {1989},
address = {Albuquerque, New Mexico},
isbn = {9780937206126}
}
\stopbuffer
\usebtxdataset[bib.buffer]
\setupbtx[dataset=default]
\usebtxdefinitions[sbl]
\setupbtx[sbl]
\setupnote[footnote][location=none]
\starttext
\input knuth
\cite[clark1989]
\placenotes[footnote]
\startchapter[title=Bibliography]
\placelistofpublications
\stopchapter
\stoptext
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[NTG-context] Why are ConTeXt-SBL endnotes empty?
A few years back, I tried using endnotes with ConTeXt-SBL, and it failed to
compile. I'm forced to try again (due to some other issue with footnotes), and
instead of compiling to error, it compiles, but the footnote's message ends up
being empty.
Why is it appearing empty? Is there a fix?
Here is a minimum working example:
\usemodule[publ-imp-sbl]
\startbuffer [bib]
@Article{na2006,
title={Volcanoes \word{of} New Mexico},
year={2006},
journal={New Mexico Earth Matters},
publisher={New Mexico Bureau \word{of} Geology \word{and} Mineral Resources},
volume={6},
number={1},
location={Socorro, New Mexico}
}
@Book{clark1989,
author = {Clark, William},
title = {Railroads \word{and} railroad towns \word{in} New Mexico},
publisher = {New Mexico Magazine},
year = {1989},
address = {Albuquerque, New Mexico},
isbn = {9780937206126}
}
\stopbuffer
\usebtxdataset[bib.buffer]
\setupbtx[dataset=default]
\usebtxdefinitions[sbl]
\setupbtx[sbl]
\setupnote[footnote][location=none]
\starttext
\input knuth
\cite[clark1989]
\placenotes[footnote]
\startchapter[title=Bibliography]
\placelistofpublications
\stopchapter
\stoptext
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[NTG-context] Re: Very bizarre bug
On 4/7/2024 7:08 PM, Thomas A. Schmitz wrote: Hi everybody, this is bizarre, but hear me out: a file that I have has a mixture of xml, TeX and Lua. It compiles cleanly, no problem, on macos and linux. I also have a little raspberry pi on which I have installed lmtx. The file compiles, BUT: it has one additional page. The first page of the document is empty and has the word "on" in the upper left hand corner of the text area. I have checked several times, it always comes out like this. Everything else is exactly the same - context version, file and environment files (everything under git, so really identical). The "on" does not appear if I just make a "hello world" document on the raspi. So my question is: how can I begin to explore where this word creeps in? I suspect it's something in the linux-aarch64 tree or some test for this architecture that is the culprit, but what would be a good way to trace it? can you make a format with line 25 of context.mkxl uncommented to see if you get a message (not production, just a test) Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | www.pragma-ade.nl | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://mailman.ntg.nl/mailman3/lists/ntg-context.ntg.nl webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / https://context.aanhet.net (mirror) archive : https://github.com/contextgarden/context wiki : https://wiki.contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Very bizarre bug
Hi everybody, this is bizarre, but hear me out: a file that I have has a mixture of xml, TeX and Lua. It compiles cleanly, no problem, on macos and linux. I also have a little raspberry pi on which I have installed lmtx. The file compiles, BUT: it has one additional page. The first page of the document is empty and has the word "on" in the upper left hand corner of the text area. I have checked several times, it always comes out like this. Everything else is exactly the same - context version, file and environment files (everything under git, so really identical). The "on" does not appear if I just make a "hello world" document on the raspi. So my question is: how can I begin to explore where this word creeps in? I suspect it's something in the linux-aarch64 tree or some test for this architecture that is the culprit, but what would be a good way to trace it? All best Thomas ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://mailman.ntg.nl/mailman3/lists/ntg-context.ntg.nl webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / https://context.aanhet.net (mirror) archive : https://github.com/contextgarden/context wiki : https://wiki.contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] start/end pages in ToC
Our journal is currently in the process of moving to continuous publication
of items in a given volume as they are ready. This entails re-jigging the
ToC so that it now includes the start and end page numbers of each item. So
far, I have everything pretty much in the right place, but for the page
numbers I am getting only “??”. I am not sure why this is happening and
would be grateful if someone could tell me why or point me to
documentation that explains the problem and how to solve it.
Many thanks in advance.
My minimalish working example:
\definehead[SourceTitle][chapter]
\setuphead[SourceTitle][page=yes,
footer={ItemData}]
\definehead[StudyTitle][chapter]
\setuphead[StudyTitle][page=yes,
footer={ItemData}]
\definetext[ItemData][footer][
{\at[\Reference]–
\at[\namedstructureuservariable{}{authorInitials}endPage]}
]
\setuplist[SourceTitle][
state=start,
textcolor=black,
alternative=startendpages,
criterium=all,
headnumber=no,
interaction=page,
numberalign=flushright,
before={\blank[2.2ex, fixed]},
inbetween=\endgraf,
]
\setuplist[StudyTitle][
state=start,
textcolor=black,
alternative=startendpages,
criterium=all,
headnumber=no,
interaction=all,
numberalign=flushright,
before={\blank[2.2ex, fixed]},
inbetween=\endgraf,
]
\define\ToCEntry{%
\structurelistuservariable{author}\crlf
\structurelistuservariable{title}\hfill%
\at[\structurelistuservariable{reference}]–%
\at[\structurelistuservariable{authorInitials}endPage]
}
\definelistalternative[startendpages]
[renderingsetup=list:startendpages]
\startsetups[list:startendpages]
{\ToCEntry}
\vglue1pc
\stopsetups
\starttext
{\tfa\bf Contents}
\blank[line, fixed]
\WORD{Sources}
\blank[halfline, fixed]
\placelist[SourceTitle][criterium=all]
\blank[line, fixed]
\WORD{Studies}
\blank[halfline, fixed]
\placelist[StudyTitle][criterium=all]
\page[makeup]
\setnumber[userpage][1]
\def\Reference{RefSo01}
\startSourceTitle[reference={\Reference},
bookmark=Source01,
title={}][
title=Source01,
author=Author01,
authorInitials=ABC,
reference={\Reference},
]
\input knuth
\page
\dorecurse{25}{\input ward\par}
\reference[ABCendPage]{}
\stopSourceTitle
\page[makeup]
\setnumber[userpage][1]
\def\Reference{RefSo02}
\startSourceTitle[reference={\Reference},
bookmark=Source02,
title={}][
author=Author02,
title=Source02,
authorInitials=PQR,
reference={\Reference},
]
\input knuth
\page
\dorecurse{10}{\input ward\par}
\reference[PQRendPage]{}
\stopSourceTitle
\page[makeup]
\setnumber[userpage][1]
\def\Reference{RefSt01}
\startStudyTitle[reference={\Reference},
bookmark=Study01,
title={}][
author=Author03,
title=Study01,
authorInitials=XYZ,
reference={\Reference},
]
\input knuth
\blank[big]
\page
\dorecurse{15}{\input ward\par}
\reference[XYZendPage]{}
\stopStudyTitle
\page[makeup]
\stoptext
Alan
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[NTG-context] Wiki page : Mixed languages sample (French, Ancient Greek, Arabic, Chinese)
ι. ταῦτα δὴ ἐκαλλωπισάμην, ἵνα καλὸς
παρὰ καλὸν ἴω}.
\noindent \quotation{Je rencontrai, dit-il, Socrate, sortant du bain et
les pieds chaussés de sandales, ce qui n'est guère dans ses habitudes,
et je lui demandai où il allait si beau. Il me répondit : «Je vais dîner
chez Agathon. Je me suis dérobé hier à la fête qu'il a donnée en
l'honneur de sa victoire, parce que je craignais la foule; mais je me
suis engagé à venir le lendemain : voilà pourquoi je me suis paré; je
voulais être beau pour venir chez un beau garçon}\inmargin{Platon, {\em
Banquet}, 174a}.
\stopnarrower
On pourrait assurément faire mieux en matière d'édition. Par exemple,
mettre le texte grec à gauche et sa traduction française à droite sur la
même page, ce qui donnerait quelque chose comme ceci :
\startnarrower[1*left,1*right]\tfx\setupinterlinespace
\startTwoColumns
\quotation{Ἔφη γάρ οἱ Σωκράτη ἐντυχεῖν λελουμένον τε καὶ τὰς βλαύτας
ὑποδεδεμένον, ἃ ἐκεῖνος ὀλιγάκις ἐποίει· καὶ ἐρέσθαι αὐτὸν ὅποι ἴοι οὕτω
καλὸς γεγενημένος. καὶ τὸν εἰπεῖν ὅτι· Ἐπὶ δεῖπνον εἰς Ἀγάθωνος. χθὲς
γὰρ αὐτὸν διέφυγον τοῖς ἐπινικίοις, φοβηθεὶς τὸν ὄχλον· ὡμολόγησα δ᾽ εἰς
τήμερον παρέσεσθαι. ταῦτα δὴ ἐκαλλωπισάμην, ἵνα καλὸς παρὰ καλὸν
ἴω}.\TwoColumns
\quotation{Je rencontrai, dit-il, Socrate, sortant du bain et les pieds
chaussés de sandales, ce qui n'est guère dans ses habitudes, et je lui
demandai où il allait si beau. Il me répondit : «Je vais dîner chez
Agathon. Je me suis dérobé hier à la fête qu'il a donnée en l'honneur de
sa victoire, parce que je craignais la foule ; mais je me suis engagé à
venir le lendemain : voilà pourquoi je me suis paré ; je voulais être
beau pour venir chez un beau garçon}.
\stopTwoColumns
\stopnarrower
\section{Éditer avec \LaTeX : l'alternative \ConTeXt}
Les lecteurs habitués ont reconnu dans les paragraphes précédents la
marque et la technique du logiciel d'édition \LaTeX. Cependant,
l'utilisation de ce logiciel repose sur un ensemble assez important de
déclarations et il est nécessaire d'avoir une longue pratique pour
arriver à jouer avec, sinon la puissance, du moins la finesse de \LaTeX.
Les commandes sont très nombreuses et il faut recourir souvent à un
Manuel pour se remémorer les subtilités qui ont permis d'atteindre tel
rendu à l'impression. Bien entendu, il existe des logiciels commerciaux
d'aide à l'édition professionnelle pour le secteur des Humanités. Mais
d'une part ils sont payants et relativement coûteux pour une personne,
sans parler du prix des licences pour les groupements professionnels
d'enseignants et de chercheurs.
Devant cet état de choses, on peut se tourner vers \ConTeXt, qui n'est
pas une alternative à \LaTeX, mais une manière plus synthétique (voire
plus élégante) d'utiliser \LaTeX. \ConTeXt, de même que \LaTeX, est une
suite logicielle qui contient les macros de \LaTeX, les routines du
langage {\em Perl}, ainsi que les macros de \LuaTeX. On peut donc
définir à peu près tout ce qui est exigé au niveau de l'édition
professionnelle, sans entrer dans la connaissance technique du langage
\LaTeX. Bien entendu, on n'échappera pas à un certain nombre de
questions techniques, si l'on veut travailler avec ce type d'outil :
pour le mathématicien, rendre possible la présentation et l'édition
parfaites d'équations complexes, mais aussi de schémas et de tableaux
nécessite un apprentissage assez poussé. C'est vrai aussi pour les les
utilisateurs qui viennent des Humanités, qui connaissent leur domaine,
et qui veulent rédiger un document simple, un article de revue, voir des
chapitres entiers d'un ouvrage. Très certainement, ce sont les éditeurs
qui se chargent de la mise en page (sur la base d'une feuille de style
Word) du document que l'on veut publier. Mais parfois, s'il s'agit d'un
dossier de plusieurs articles, voire d'une édition avec une aide
financière à la publication, on aimerait avoir la main sur la qualité du
document imprimé. C'est une des raisons qui font que l'on pourrait
désirer maîtriser la chaîne éditoriale, non seulement pour se passer
éventuellement d'un éditeur, mais pour disposer d'un aperçu de son
propre travail.
\section{Faire coexister du Grec, du Chinois et de l'Arabe dans le même
texte}
Il n'est pas d'usage commun de lire dans le même document du texte
courant en français, une référence en grec, par exemple, lorsque dans le
{\em Timée}, Platon indique que le plus difficile est de commencer par
un commencement qui soit naturel (κατὰ φύσιν ἀρχήν)\inmargin{Platon,
{\em Timée}, 29b.}, une indication du nom du philosophe chinois {\em
Tchouang Tseu} (en {\em pinyin}\footnote{Le {\em pinyin} (chinois
classique 漢語拼音, littéralement “assembler les sons de la langue des
Han”), est une romanisation de la langue chinoise, qui est écrite en
alphabet latin. Ainsi, au lieu d'écrire 漢語拼音 en chinois traditionnel, ou
bien 汉语拼音 en chinois simplifié, on écrira {\em Hànyù Pīnyīn}.} Zhuangzi
et en chinois classique et simplifié :
[NTG-context] Re: Works now! At Work, and a question to paragraphs in an Theorem
On 2/27/24 10:10, Ursula Hermann wrote: >[...] > I have a question to my paragraphs: > > \definetextbackground[Paragaph][ > [...] > \startparagraph Hi Uschi, if you define Paragaph, then you should use \startParagaph (and \stopParagaph). > \starttext Even if that works, it would be better to nest commands (\starttext before \startparagraph). > [...] > So this is the example. What I like to do: The first paragraph should be > normal written, but the second one should have more space between the > words. Because of Math: Is \hspace the right way? The right command? And > using \startnarrower, \stopnarrower? Narrower refers to margins. Extra space between words would be something different (at least, as far as I get it). That being said, I have no idea how to get different inter-word spacing. Just in case it might help, Pablo ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://mailman.ntg.nl/mailman3/lists/ntg-context.ntg.nl webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / https://context.aanhet.net (mirror) archive : https://github.com/contextgarden/context wiki : https://wiki.contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Re: Fwd: Re: Working with layer sets with Metapost
Thanks Mikael. This helped indeed.
I updated my example on the Metapost page in the wiki accordingly.
The`pagestate=start` functionality is not documented in the wiki. It's not
clear for which context commands it can or should be used. Who is willing to
help out here?
Best regards
Emanuel
On Feb. 19 2024, at 2:39 pm, Mikael Sundqvist wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Try
> \startTEXpage[pagestate=start]
> /Mikael
> On Mon, Feb 19, 2024 at 2:31 PM Emanuel Han via ntg-context
> wrote:
> >
> > I just made a strange observation in the output pdf of the attached
> > layer_set.tex, which is that when opening it with a pdf viewer like skim or
> > macos preview and showing miniatures, all pages except the last one show
> > page number 1 (the last showing page number 2).
> >
> > Which was not the case with the output pdf of the attached
> > multipage_metapost_mwe-very_simple.tex.
> >
> > How can I change my code to have proper consecutive page numbering in a pdf
> > viewer?
> >
> > On Feb. 17 2024, at 11:03 am, Emanuel Han via ntg-context
> > wrote:
> >
> > I think I could solve all the problems. Attached the finalized working
> > example. I created the
> > https://wiki.contextgarden.net/MetaPost#Layer_sets_as_individual_pages
> > entry with it. Feel free to modify.
> >
> > Cheers
> > Emanuel
> >
> > On Feb. 16 2024, at 7:56 am, Mikael Sundqvist wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > not sure I get what you are missing. But you can try
> >
> > setbounds currentpicture to (fullsquare scaled 200) ;
> >
> > in base. And then do
> >
> > \dorecurse{5}{
> > \startTEXpage[offset=1DK]
> > \useMPgraphic{layerset#1}
> > \stopTEXpage
> > }
> >
> > if that is the looping you are after.
> >
> > /Mikael
> >
> > On Fri, Feb 16, 2024 at 6:54 AM Emanuel Han via ntg-context
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Resp. the solution should be such that each generated PDF page has the
> > > same dimension, the same background colour and a page number and the
> > > metapost content on each page has the same scaling factor.
> > >
> > > On Feb. 15 2024, at 11:10 pm, Emanuel Han via ntg-context
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > Dear Mikael,
> > >
> > > I actually need to keep the \dorecurse mechanism of the mwe (from line 44
> > > on), because I need the "setbounds currentpicture to TheFrame" and also
> > > because I need page numbering inside the MPpage, as done with draw
> > > textext(decimal(currentime)).
> > >
> > > So, how can I use the \useMPgraphic{layerset1} etc. inside the
> > > \dorecurse, assuming I name my layersets "layerset1", "layerset2",
> > > "layerset3" etc.?
> > >
> > > Emanuel
> > >
> > > On Feb. 15 2024, at 10:07 pm, Emanuel Han via ntg-context
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > Dear Mikael,
> > > thanks a lot!
> > > this seems to be the solution! And it looks beatiful enough to me
> > > I'll try to port all my layers to this new method and see if I run into
> > > new problems again
> > >
> > > Emanuel
> > >
> > >
> > > On Feb. 15 2024, at 8:19 am, Mikael Sundqvist wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi
> > >
> > > On Thu, Feb 15, 2024 at 1:03 AM Emanuel Han via ntg-context
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Dear list,
> > > >
> > > > the attached .tex file is the minimal working example we discussed
> > > > today in the online meeting.
> > > >
> > > > I realized that the approach of looping through k of p[k] is not
> > > > fitting my needs, because it's not flexible enough.
> > > >
> > > > I need another approach, one which works with layer sets.
> > > >
> > > > I would stop using p as an array, because with the layer sets approach
> > > > we don't have a fixed order of the layers.
> > > >
> > > > So the definition of the layers would be something like
> > > >
> > > > picture layerA;
> > > > layerA:=image(
> > > > label("Word 1", z1);
> > > > );
> > > >
> > > > picture layerW;
> > > > layerW:=image(
> > > > label("Mot 2", z2);
> > > > );
> > > >
> > > > picture layerM;
> > > > layerM:=image(
> > > > label("Parola 3"
[NTG-context] Re: Fwd: Re: Working with layer sets with Metapost
Hi,
Try
\startTEXpage[pagestate=start]
/Mikael
On Mon, Feb 19, 2024 at 2:31 PM Emanuel Han via ntg-context
wrote:
>
> I just made a strange observation in the output pdf of the attached
> layer_set.tex, which is that when opening it with a pdf viewer like skim or
> macos preview and showing miniatures, all pages except the last one show page
> number 1 (the last showing page number 2).
>
> Which was not the case with the output pdf of the attached
> multipage_metapost_mwe-very_simple.tex.
>
> How can I change my code to have proper consecutive page numbering in a pdf
> viewer?
>
> On Feb. 17 2024, at 11:03 am, Emanuel Han via ntg-context
> wrote:
>
> I think I could solve all the problems. Attached the finalized working
> example. I created the
> https://wiki.contextgarden.net/MetaPost#Layer_sets_as_individual_pages entry
> with it. Feel free to modify.
>
> Cheers
> Emanuel
>
> On Feb. 16 2024, at 7:56 am, Mikael Sundqvist wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> not sure I get what you are missing. But you can try
>
> setbounds currentpicture to (fullsquare scaled 200) ;
>
> in base. And then do
>
> \dorecurse{5}{
> \startTEXpage[offset=1DK]
> \useMPgraphic{layerset#1}
> \stopTEXpage
> }
>
> if that is the looping you are after.
>
> /Mikael
>
> On Fri, Feb 16, 2024 at 6:54 AM Emanuel Han via ntg-context
> wrote:
> >
> > Resp. the solution should be such that each generated PDF page has the same
> > dimension, the same background colour and a page number and the metapost
> > content on each page has the same scaling factor.
> >
> > On Feb. 15 2024, at 11:10 pm, Emanuel Han via ntg-context
> > wrote:
> >
> > Dear Mikael,
> >
> > I actually need to keep the \dorecurse mechanism of the mwe (from line 44
> > on), because I need the "setbounds currentpicture to TheFrame" and also
> > because I need page numbering inside the MPpage, as done with draw
> > textext(decimal(currentime)).
> >
> > So, how can I use the \useMPgraphic{layerset1} etc. inside the \dorecurse,
> > assuming I name my layersets "layerset1", "layerset2", "layerset3" etc.?
> >
> > Emanuel
> >
> > On Feb. 15 2024, at 10:07 pm, Emanuel Han via ntg-context
> > wrote:
> >
> > Dear Mikael,
> > thanks a lot!
> > this seems to be the solution! And it looks beatiful enough to me
> > I'll try to port all my layers to this new method and see if I run into new
> > problems again
> >
> > Emanuel
> >
> >
> > On Feb. 15 2024, at 8:19 am, Mikael Sundqvist wrote:
> >
> > Hi
> >
> > On Thu, Feb 15, 2024 at 1:03 AM Emanuel Han via ntg-context
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Dear list,
> > >
> > > the attached .tex file is the minimal working example we discussed today
> > > in the online meeting.
> > >
> > > I realized that the approach of looping through k of p[k] is not fitting
> > > my needs, because it's not flexible enough.
> > >
> > > I need another approach, one which works with layer sets.
> > >
> > > I would stop using p as an array, because with the layer sets approach we
> > > don't have a fixed order of the layers.
> > >
> > > So the definition of the layers would be something like
> > >
> > > picture layerA;
> > > layerA:=image(
> > > label("Word 1", z1);
> > > );
> > >
> > > picture layerW;
> > > layerW:=image(
> > > label("Mot 2", z2);
> > > );
> > >
> > > picture layerM;
> > > layerM:=image(
> > > label("Parola 3", z3);
> > > );
> > >
> > > picture layerC;
> > > layerC:=image(
> > > label("Wort 4", z3+z1);
> > > );
> > >
> > > picture layerY;
> > > layerY:=image(
> > > label("Nummer 5", z2+z3);
> > > );
> > >
> > > picture layerU;
> > > layerU:=image(
> > > label("number 6", z2+z1);
> > > );
> > >
> > > After that, I would define layer sets and layer subsets. This will be
> > > done manually for each layer set and each layer subset.
> > > I don't know the proper syntax to do that. Let's assume we could use a
> > > variable type called "myset".
> > >
> > > myset layersubsetGamma;
> > > layersubsetGamma:={layerU,layerM};
> > >
> > > In my logic, the layers will be drawn i
[NTG-context] Fwd: Re: Working with layer sets with Metapost
I just made a strange observation in the output pdf of the attached layer_set.tex, which is that when opening it with a pdf viewer like skim or macos preview and showing miniatures, all pages except the last one show page number 1 (the last showing page number 2). Which was not the case with the output pdf of the attached multipage_metapost_mwe-very_simple.tex. How can I change my code to have proper consecutive page numbering in a pdf viewer?On Feb. 17 2024, at 11:03 am, Emanuel Han via ntg-context wrote:I think I could solve all the problems. Attached the finalized working example. I created the https://wiki.contextgarden.net/MetaPost#Layer_sets_as_individual_pages entry with it. Feel free to modify.CheersEmanuelOn Feb. 16 2024, at 7:56 am, Mikael Sundqvist wrote:Hi,not sure I get what you are missing. But you can trysetbounds currentpicture to (fullsquare scaled 200) ;in base. And then do\dorecurse{5}{\startTEXpage[offset=1DK]\useMPgraphic{layerset#1}\stopTEXpage}if that is the looping you are after./MikaelOn Fri, Feb 16, 2024 at 6:54 AM Emanuel Han via ntg-context wrote:>> Resp. the solution should be such that each generated PDF page has the same dimension, the same background colour and a page number and the metapost content on each page has the same scaling factor.>> On Feb. 15 2024, at 11:10 pm, Emanuel Han via ntg-context wrote:>> Dear Mikael,>> I actually need to keep the \dorecurse mechanism of the mwe (from line 44 on), because I need the "setbounds currentpicture to TheFrame" and also because I need page numbering inside the MPpage, as done with draw textext(decimal(currentime)).>> So, how can I use the \useMPgraphic{layerset1} etc. inside the \dorecurse, assuming I name my layersets "layerset1", "layerset2", "layerset3" etc.?>> Emanuel>> On Feb. 15 2024, at 10:07 pm, Emanuel Han via ntg-context wrote:>> Dear Mikael,> thanks a lot!> this seems to be the solution! And it looks beatiful enough to me > I'll try to port all my layers to this new method and see if I run into new problems again >> Emanuel>>> On Feb. 15 2024, at 8:19 am, Mikael Sundqvist wrote:>> Hi>> On Thu, Feb 15, 2024 at 1:03 AM Emanuel Han via ntg-context> wrote:> >> > Dear list,> >> > the attached .tex file is the minimal working example we discussed today in the online meeting.> >> > I realized that the approach of looping through k of p[k] is not fitting my needs, because it's not flexible enough.> >> > I need another approach, one which works with layer sets.> >> > I would stop using p as an array, because with the layer sets approach we don't have a fixed order of the layers.> >> > So the definition of the layers would be something like> >> > picture layerA;> > layerA:=image(> > label("Word 1", z1);> > );> >> > picture layerW;> > layerW:=image(> > label("Mot 2", z2);> > );> >> > picture layerM;> > layerM:=image(> > label("Parola 3", z3);> > );> >> > picture layerC;> > layerC:=image(> > label("Wort 4", z3+z1);> > );> >> > picture layerY;> > layerY:=image(> > label("Nummer 5", z2+z3);> > );> >> > picture layerU;> > layerU:=image(> > label("number 6", z2+z1);> > );> >> > After that, I would define layer sets and layer subsets. This will be done manually for each layer set and each layer subset.> > I don't know the proper syntax to do that. Let's assume we could use a variable type called "myset".> >> > myset layersubsetGamma;> > layersubsetGamma:={layerU,layerM};> >> > In my logic, the layers will be drawn in the order of their appearance within the {}. In the example, drawn content of layerM might cover drawn content of layerU.> >> > Contrary to a layer subset, each layer set will result in a PDF page, and thus the layer sets are related to each other by an inner order. That's why I would use an array variable here with [].> >> > I don't know how to append a set. In the following example, I assumed there would be a function myappend(, )> >> > myset layerset[];> > layerset1 := {layerW,layerA};> > layerset2 := myappend{layerset1, layerY};> > layerset3 := myappend{layerset2, layersubsetGamma};> > layerset4 := myappend{layerset2, layerU};> > layerset5 := myappend{layerset4, layersubsetGamma};> >> > Finally, I would need each layerset[k] typeset on its own pdf page. And of course on each page k, only the layers which appear in the definition of the layerset[k] should be drawn on top of each other in the order as they appear in that definition.> >>
[NTG-context] Re: manuals
Hello everyone! As an eternal newbie (with a memory like a goldfish), I started by building my own documentation from the web pages constructed by Bertrand Masson (prehistory archaeologist in Northern France) "les fiches à Bébert" (obsolete version here: http://bertrandmasson.free.fr/; new recommended version here: http://lesfichesabebert.fr/TeX/context/context-intro.html). As mentionned by Alain Delmotte. Bertrand Masson always keeps his site up to date, as he gives references to the documentation compiled by Garulfo (Joaquín Ataz López ), available in several languages, which I personally found well-done, useful and welcome. It's interesting to note with a rather positive smile that documentations, even if they're never really up to date in the details of ConTeXt's evolution, copy each other: that's what I did to write the beginning of a Wikibook in French (https://fr.wikibooks.org/wiki/ConTeXt/Qu%27est-ce_que_ConTeXt_%3F). I took things written by Bertrand Masson and was partially taken over by Garulfo and so on. Fortunately, the ConTeXT discussion list offers MWEs: all you have to do is to test them and save these examples on your system in the CTX-TESTS document folder. The next step is to classify these examples under the appropriate headings, then insert them into a coding system for a complex document that always calls for requests for explanations from discussion list participants. This question of documentation seems to me to be an age-old snake, not only on a technical subject which can be complex, as ConTeXt can be, but also concerning other types of documentation. For my part, although I haven't yet exhausted all the available documentation resources, whether internal to the distribution, or online like the ConTeXt Garden wiki, I think (but this has been better expressed here by others than me) that a real documentation refresh could be carried out collectively, with the great ambition of keeping obsolete documentation in an archive, while proposing a wiki with the date of update visible, in correlation with the PDF version. I have no idea how this documentation update could be achieved, but the fact is that it would be desirable to devote a section to the purely technical and basic aspects of CTX installation and font availability on Windows, Mac OS, Linux, BSD, etc., with MWEs and examples a little more detailed. Once this documentation has been passed as an introductory part (itself containing chapters explaining how this page of documentation was put together, with notes in the margins, etc.), this book could introduce MKIV, LuaTeX, MetaPost and so on, but with a clear distinction between the objectives sought: writing documentation with figures, writing a thesis in mathematics and physics, how to construct figures, or a bibliography. Not to mention the handling of photographs in an aesthetically demanding layout; all this with the possibility of showing complete or partial examples of work produced... In a nutshell: even if I give the impression that I'm asking you to reinvent the wheel, in reality it's a question of collating relevant existing information in a way that is intelligible and clear to the neophyte, but that also meets the demands of experienced users, who don't all use ConTeXt for the same reasons. Don't get me wrong: I'm not telling you what to do, I'm just giving you my opinion. Basically, I'm saying: documentation exists, but it has to be reliable, up to date, easy to find and enable you to make progress in difficult situations. As I said, I found Garulfo's work very welcome. It's not obsolete and doesn't need replacing. But perhaps it could be amended on certain points and completed and made available both in PDF and online in the ConTeXt Garden wiki pages? So, if by hypothesis the relevant documentation exists, here and there, but it's in the middle of pages that are in the past, it can be considered a daunting task to go looking for information that you realize is no longer up to date, because experience shows that it's no longer reliable. If confusion reigns, those seeking to apply what they've read risk turning away from ConTeXt, or asking the same questions over and over again. So there's plenty of food for thought to be had when it comes to methods for overhauling existing documentation. It's not a question of thinking long and hard about the availability of this documentation (on line or as a PDF?), but rather of knowing whether to build an encyclopedia, or a series of manuals, each of which is intended to circumscribe as closely as possible the problems encountered when attempting this or that form of page layout. I remember being astonished to discover, when I first started learning ConTeXt, all the vocabulary that existed around page layout (in French: Grand fond, petit fond, blanc de tête, blanc de pied, etc.), vocabulary that we ignore when we come from Word office autom
[NTG-context] Re: Working with layer sets with Metapost
I think I could solve all the problems. Attached the finalized working example.
I created the
https://wiki.contextgarden.net/MetaPost#Layer_sets_as_individual_pages entry
with it. Feel free to modify.
Cheers
Emanuel
On Feb. 16 2024, at 7:56 am, Mikael Sundqvist wrote:
> Hi,
>
> not sure I get what you are missing. But you can try
> setbounds currentpicture to (fullsquare scaled 200) ;
> in base. And then do
> \dorecurse{5}{
> \startTEXpage[offset=1DK]
> \useMPgraphic{layerset#1}
> \stopTEXpage
> }
>
> if that is the looping you are after.
> /Mikael
> On Fri, Feb 16, 2024 at 6:54 AM Emanuel Han via ntg-context
> wrote:
> >
> > Resp. the solution should be such that each generated PDF page has the same
> > dimension, the same background colour and a page number and the metapost
> > content on each page has the same scaling factor.
> >
> > On Feb. 15 2024, at 11:10 pm, Emanuel Han via ntg-context
> > wrote:
> >
> > Dear Mikael,
> >
> > I actually need to keep the \dorecurse mechanism of the mwe (from line 44
> > on), because I need the "setbounds currentpicture to TheFrame" and also
> > because I need page numbering inside the MPpage, as done with draw
> > textext(decimal(currentime)).
> >
> > So, how can I use the \useMPgraphic{layerset1} etc. inside the \dorecurse,
> > assuming I name my layersets "layerset1", "layerset2", "layerset3" etc.?
> >
> > Emanuel
> >
> > On Feb. 15 2024, at 10:07 pm, Emanuel Han via ntg-context
> > wrote:
> >
> > Dear Mikael,
> > thanks a lot!
> > this seems to be the solution! And it looks beatiful enough to me
> > I'll try to port all my layers to this new method and see if I run into new
> > problems again
> >
> > Emanuel
> >
> >
> > On Feb. 15 2024, at 8:19 am, Mikael Sundqvist wrote:
> >
> > Hi
> >
> > On Thu, Feb 15, 2024 at 1:03 AM Emanuel Han via ntg-context
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Dear list,
> > >
> > > the attached .tex file is the minimal working example we discussed today
> > > in the online meeting.
> > >
> > > I realized that the approach of looping through k of p[k] is not fitting
> > > my needs, because it's not flexible enough.
> > >
> > > I need another approach, one which works with layer sets.
> > >
> > > I would stop using p as an array, because with the layer sets approach we
> > > don't have a fixed order of the layers.
> > >
> > > So the definition of the layers would be something like
> > >
> > > picture layerA;
> > > layerA:=image(
> > > label("Word 1", z1);
> > > );
> > >
> > > picture layerW;
> > > layerW:=image(
> > > label("Mot 2", z2);
> > > );
> > >
> > > picture layerM;
> > > layerM:=image(
> > > label("Parola 3", z3);
> > > );
> > >
> > > picture layerC;
> > > layerC:=image(
> > > label("Wort 4", z3+z1);
> > > );
> > >
> > > picture layerY;
> > > layerY:=image(
> > > label("Nummer 5", z2+z3);
> > > );
> > >
> > > picture layerU;
> > > layerU:=image(
> > > label("number 6", z2+z1);
> > > );
> > >
> > > After that, I would define layer sets and layer subsets. This will be
> > > done manually for each layer set and each layer subset.
> > > I don't know the proper syntax to do that. Let's assume we could use a
> > > variable type called "myset".
> > >
> > > myset layersubsetGamma;
> > > layersubsetGamma:={layerU,layerM};
> > >
> > > In my logic, the layers will be drawn in the order of their appearance
> > > within the {}. In the example, drawn content of layerM might cover drawn
> > > content of layerU.
> > >
> > > Contrary to a layer subset, each layer set will result in a PDF page, and
> > > thus the layer sets are related to each other by an inner order. That's
> > > why I would use an array variable here with [].
> > >
> > > I don't know how to append a set. In the following example, I assumed
> > > there would be a function myappend(, > > initial set should be appended with>)
> > >
> > > myset layerset[];
> > > layerset1 := {layerW,layerA};
> > > layerset2 := myappend{layerset1, layerY};
> > > layerset3 := myapp
[NTG-context] Re: Working with layer sets with Metapost
Hi,
not sure I get what you are missing. But you can try
setbounds currentpicture to (fullsquare scaled 200) ;
in base. And then do
\dorecurse{5}{
\startTEXpage[offset=1DK]
\useMPgraphic{layerset#1}
\stopTEXpage
}
if that is the looping you are after.
/Mikael
On Fri, Feb 16, 2024 at 6:54 AM Emanuel Han via ntg-context
wrote:
>
> Resp. the solution should be such that each generated PDF page has the same
> dimension, the same background colour and a page number and the metapost
> content on each page has the same scaling factor.
>
> On Feb. 15 2024, at 11:10 pm, Emanuel Han via ntg-context
> wrote:
>
> Dear Mikael,
>
> I actually need to keep the \dorecurse mechanism of the mwe (from line 44
> on), because I need the "setbounds currentpicture to TheFrame" and also
> because I need page numbering inside the MPpage, as done with draw
> textext(decimal(currentime)).
>
> So, how can I use the \useMPgraphic{layerset1} etc. inside the \dorecurse,
> assuming I name my layersets "layerset1", "layerset2", "layerset3" etc.?
>
> Emanuel
>
> On Feb. 15 2024, at 10:07 pm, Emanuel Han via ntg-context
> wrote:
>
> Dear Mikael,
> thanks a lot!
> this seems to be the solution! And it looks beatiful enough to me
> I'll try to port all my layers to this new method and see if I run into new
> problems again
>
> Emanuel
>
>
> On Feb. 15 2024, at 8:19 am, Mikael Sundqvist wrote:
>
> Hi
>
> On Thu, Feb 15, 2024 at 1:03 AM Emanuel Han via ntg-context
> wrote:
> >
> > Dear list,
> >
> > the attached .tex file is the minimal working example we discussed today in
> > the online meeting.
> >
> > I realized that the approach of looping through k of p[k] is not fitting my
> > needs, because it's not flexible enough.
> >
> > I need another approach, one which works with layer sets.
> >
> > I would stop using p as an array, because with the layer sets approach we
> > don't have a fixed order of the layers.
> >
> > So the definition of the layers would be something like
> >
> > picture layerA;
> > layerA:=image(
> > label("Word 1", z1);
> > );
> >
> > picture layerW;
> > layerW:=image(
> > label("Mot 2", z2);
> > );
> >
> > picture layerM;
> > layerM:=image(
> > label("Parola 3", z3);
> > );
> >
> > picture layerC;
> > layerC:=image(
> > label("Wort 4", z3+z1);
> > );
> >
> > picture layerY;
> > layerY:=image(
> > label("Nummer 5", z2+z3);
> > );
> >
> > picture layerU;
> > layerU:=image(
> > label("number 6", z2+z1);
> > );
> >
> > After that, I would define layer sets and layer subsets. This will be done
> > manually for each layer set and each layer subset.
> > I don't know the proper syntax to do that. Let's assume we could use a
> > variable type called "myset".
> >
> > myset layersubsetGamma;
> > layersubsetGamma:={layerU,layerM};
> >
> > In my logic, the layers will be drawn in the order of their appearance
> > within the {}. In the example, drawn content of layerM might cover drawn
> > content of layerU.
> >
> > Contrary to a layer subset, each layer set will result in a PDF page, and
> > thus the layer sets are related to each other by an inner order. That's why
> > I would use an array variable here with [].
> >
> > I don't know how to append a set. In the following example, I assumed there
> > would be a function myappend(, > set should be appended with>)
> >
> > myset layerset[];
> > layerset1 := {layerW,layerA};
> > layerset2 := myappend{layerset1, layerY};
> > layerset3 := myappend{layerset2, layersubsetGamma};
> > layerset4 := myappend{layerset2, layerU};
> > layerset5 := myappend{layerset4, layersubsetGamma};
> >
> > Finally, I would need each layerset[k] typeset on its own pdf page. And of
> > course on each page k, only the layers which appear in the definition of
> > the layerset[k] should be drawn on top of each other in the order as they
> > appear in that definition.
> >
> > I'm very curious to hear your suggestions.
> >
>
> Not beautiful, perhaps, but maybe something like this could work? I
> think there is no way out of doing some manual work to tell what you
> want included on each page.
>
> \startuseMPgraphic{base}
> z1 = origin ;
> z2 = (10,50) ;
> z3 = (40,30) ;
>
> picture layerA;
> layerA:=image(
> label("Word 1", z1);
[NTG-context] Re: Working with layer sets with Metapost
Resp. the solution should be such that each generated PDF page has the same
dimension, the same background colour and a page number and the metapost
content on each page has the same scaling factor.
On Feb. 15 2024, at 11:10 pm, Emanuel Han via ntg-context
wrote:
> Dear Mikael,
>
> I actually need to keep the \dorecurse mechanism of the mwe (from line 44
> on), because I need the "setbounds currentpicture to TheFrame" and also
> because I need page numbering inside the MPpage, as done with draw
> textext(decimal(currentime)).
> So, how can I use the \useMPgraphic{layerset1} etc. inside the \dorecurse,
> assuming I name my layersets "layerset1", "layerset2", "layerset3" etc.?
> Emanuel
> On Feb. 15 2024, at 10:07 pm, Emanuel Han via ntg-context
> wrote:
> > Dear Mikael,
> > thanks a lot!
> > this seems to be the solution! And it looks beatiful enough to me
> > I'll try to port all my layers to this new method and see if I run into new
> > problems again
> >
> > Emanuel
> >
> > On Feb. 15 2024, at 8:19 am, Mikael Sundqvist wrote:
> > > Hi
> > >
> > > On Thu, Feb 15, 2024 at 1:03 AM Emanuel Han via ntg-context
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Dear list,
> > > >
> > > > the attached .tex file is the minimal working example we discussed
> > > > today in the online meeting.
> > > >
> > > > I realized that the approach of looping through k of p[k] is not
> > > > fitting my needs, because it's not flexible enough.
> > > >
> > > > I need another approach, one which works with layer sets.
> > > >
> > > > I would stop using p as an array, because with the layer sets approach
> > > > we don't have a fixed order of the layers.
> > > >
> > > > So the definition of the layers would be something like
> > > >
> > > > picture layerA;
> > > > layerA:=image(
> > > > label("Word 1", z1);
> > > > );
> > > >
> > > > picture layerW;
> > > > layerW:=image(
> > > > label("Mot 2", z2);
> > > > );
> > > >
> > > > picture layerM;
> > > > layerM:=image(
> > > > label("Parola 3", z3);
> > > > );
> > > >
> > > > picture layerC;
> > > > layerC:=image(
> > > > label("Wort 4", z3+z1);
> > > > );
> > > >
> > > > picture layerY;
> > > > layerY:=image(
> > > > label("Nummer 5", z2+z3);
> > > > );
> > > >
> > > > picture layerU;
> > > > layerU:=image(
> > > > label("number 6", z2+z1);
> > > > );
> > > >
> > > > After that, I would define layer sets and layer subsets. This will be
> > > > done manually for each layer set and each layer subset.
> > > > I don't know the proper syntax to do that. Let's assume we could use a
> > > > variable type called "myset".
> > > >
> > > > myset layersubsetGamma;
> > > > layersubsetGamma:={layerU,layerM};
> > > >
> > > > In my logic, the layers will be drawn in the order of their appearance
> > > > within the {}. In the example, drawn content of layerM might cover
> > > > drawn content of layerU.
> > > >
> > > > Contrary to a layer subset, each layer set will result in a PDF page,
> > > > and thus the layer sets are related to each other by an inner order.
> > > > That's why I would use an array variable here with [].
> > > >
> > > > I don't know how to append a set. In the following example, I assumed
> > > > there would be a function myappend(, > > > initial set should be appended with>)
> > > >
> > > > myset layerset[];
> > > > layerset1 := {layerW,layerA};
> > > > layerset2 := myappend{layerset1, layerY};
> > > > layerset3 := myappend{layerset2, layersubsetGamma};
> > > > layerset4 := myappend{layerset2, layerU};
> > > > layerset5 := myappend{layerset4, layersubsetGamma};
> > > >
> > > > Finally, I would need each layerset[k] typeset on its own pdf page. And
> > > > of course on each page k, only the layers which appear in the
> > > > definition of the layerset[k] should be drawn on top of each other in
> > > > the order as they appear in
[NTG-context] Re: Working with layer sets with Metapost
Dear Mikael,
I actually need to keep the \dorecurse mechanism of the mwe (from line 44 on),
because I need the "setbounds currentpicture to TheFrame" and also because I
need page numbering inside the MPpage, as done with draw
textext(decimal(currentime)).
So, how can I use the \useMPgraphic{layerset1} etc. inside the \dorecurse,
assuming I name my layersets "layerset1", "layerset2", "layerset3" etc.?
Emanuel
On Feb. 15 2024, at 10:07 pm, Emanuel Han via ntg-context
wrote:
> Dear Mikael,
> thanks a lot!
> this seems to be the solution! And it looks beatiful enough to me
> I'll try to port all my layers to this new method and see if I run into new
> problems again
>
> Emanuel
>
> On Feb. 15 2024, at 8:19 am, Mikael Sundqvist wrote:
> > Hi
> >
> > On Thu, Feb 15, 2024 at 1:03 AM Emanuel Han via ntg-context
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Dear list,
> > >
> > > the attached .tex file is the minimal working example we discussed today
> > > in the online meeting.
> > >
> > > I realized that the approach of looping through k of p[k] is not fitting
> > > my needs, because it's not flexible enough.
> > >
> > > I need another approach, one which works with layer sets.
> > >
> > > I would stop using p as an array, because with the layer sets approach we
> > > don't have a fixed order of the layers.
> > >
> > > So the definition of the layers would be something like
> > >
> > > picture layerA;
> > > layerA:=image(
> > > label("Word 1", z1);
> > > );
> > >
> > > picture layerW;
> > > layerW:=image(
> > > label("Mot 2", z2);
> > > );
> > >
> > > picture layerM;
> > > layerM:=image(
> > > label("Parola 3", z3);
> > > );
> > >
> > > picture layerC;
> > > layerC:=image(
> > > label("Wort 4", z3+z1);
> > > );
> > >
> > > picture layerY;
> > > layerY:=image(
> > > label("Nummer 5", z2+z3);
> > > );
> > >
> > > picture layerU;
> > > layerU:=image(
> > > label("number 6", z2+z1);
> > > );
> > >
> > > After that, I would define layer sets and layer subsets. This will be
> > > done manually for each layer set and each layer subset.
> > > I don't know the proper syntax to do that. Let's assume we could use a
> > > variable type called "myset".
> > >
> > > myset layersubsetGamma;
> > > layersubsetGamma:={layerU,layerM};
> > >
> > > In my logic, the layers will be drawn in the order of their appearance
> > > within the {}. In the example, drawn content of layerM might cover drawn
> > > content of layerU.
> > >
> > > Contrary to a layer subset, each layer set will result in a PDF page, and
> > > thus the layer sets are related to each other by an inner order. That's
> > > why I would use an array variable here with [].
> > >
> > > I don't know how to append a set. In the following example, I assumed
> > > there would be a function myappend(, > > initial set should be appended with>)
> > >
> > > myset layerset[];
> > > layerset1 := {layerW,layerA};
> > > layerset2 := myappend{layerset1, layerY};
> > > layerset3 := myappend{layerset2, layersubsetGamma};
> > > layerset4 := myappend{layerset2, layerU};
> > > layerset5 := myappend{layerset4, layersubsetGamma};
> > >
> > > Finally, I would need each layerset[k] typeset on its own pdf page. And
> > > of course on each page k, only the layers which appear in the definition
> > > of the layerset[k] should be drawn on top of each other in the order as
> > > they appear in that definition.
> > >
> > > I'm very curious to hear your suggestions.
> > >
> >
> > Not beautiful, perhaps, but maybe something like this could work? I
> > think there is no way out of doing some manual work to tell what you
> > want included on each page.
> >
> > \startuseMPgraphic{base}
> > z1 = origin ;
> > z2 = (10,50) ;
> > z3 = (40,30) ;
> >
> > picture layerA;
> > layerA:=image(
> > label("Word 1", z1);
> > );
> >
> > picture layerW;
> > layerW:=image(
> > label("Mot 2", z2);
> > );
> >
> > picture layerM;
> > layerM:=image(
> > label("Parola 3", z3);
> >
[NTG-context] Re: Working with layer sets with Metapost
Dear Mikael,
thanks a lot!
this seems to be the solution! And it looks beatiful enough to me
I'll try to port all my layers to this new method and see if I run into new
problems again
Emanuel
On Feb. 15 2024, at 8:19 am, Mikael Sundqvist wrote:
> Hi
>
> On Thu, Feb 15, 2024 at 1:03 AM Emanuel Han via ntg-context
> wrote:
> >
> > Dear list,
> >
> > the attached .tex file is the minimal working example we discussed today in
> > the online meeting.
> >
> > I realized that the approach of looping through k of p[k] is not fitting my
> > needs, because it's not flexible enough.
> >
> > I need another approach, one which works with layer sets.
> >
> > I would stop using p as an array, because with the layer sets approach we
> > don't have a fixed order of the layers.
> >
> > So the definition of the layers would be something like
> >
> > picture layerA;
> > layerA:=image(
> > label("Word 1", z1);
> > );
> >
> > picture layerW;
> > layerW:=image(
> > label("Mot 2", z2);
> > );
> >
> > picture layerM;
> > layerM:=image(
> > label("Parola 3", z3);
> > );
> >
> > picture layerC;
> > layerC:=image(
> > label("Wort 4", z3+z1);
> > );
> >
> > picture layerY;
> > layerY:=image(
> > label("Nummer 5", z2+z3);
> > );
> >
> > picture layerU;
> > layerU:=image(
> > label("number 6", z2+z1);
> > );
> >
> > After that, I would define layer sets and layer subsets. This will be done
> > manually for each layer set and each layer subset.
> > I don't know the proper syntax to do that. Let's assume we could use a
> > variable type called "myset".
> >
> > myset layersubsetGamma;
> > layersubsetGamma:={layerU,layerM};
> >
> > In my logic, the layers will be drawn in the order of their appearance
> > within the {}. In the example, drawn content of layerM might cover drawn
> > content of layerU.
> >
> > Contrary to a layer subset, each layer set will result in a PDF page, and
> > thus the layer sets are related to each other by an inner order. That's why
> > I would use an array variable here with [].
> >
> > I don't know how to append a set. In the following example, I assumed there
> > would be a function myappend(, > set should be appended with>)
> >
> > myset layerset[];
> > layerset1 := {layerW,layerA};
> > layerset2 := myappend{layerset1, layerY};
> > layerset3 := myappend{layerset2, layersubsetGamma};
> > layerset4 := myappend{layerset2, layerU};
> > layerset5 := myappend{layerset4, layersubsetGamma};
> >
> > Finally, I would need each layerset[k] typeset on its own pdf page. And of
> > course on each page k, only the layers which appear in the definition of
> > the layerset[k] should be drawn on top of each other in the order as they
> > appear in that definition.
> >
> > I'm very curious to hear your suggestions.
> >
>
> Not beautiful, perhaps, but maybe something like this could work? I
> think there is no way out of doing some manual work to tell what you
> want included on each page.
>
> \startuseMPgraphic{base}
> z1 = origin ;
> z2 = (10,50) ;
> z3 = (40,30) ;
>
> picture layerA;
> layerA:=image(
> label("Word 1", z1);
> );
>
> picture layerW;
> layerW:=image(
> label("Mot 2", z2);
> );
>
> picture layerM;
> layerM:=image(
> label("Parola 3", z3);
> );
>
> picture layerC;
> layerC:=image(
> label("Wort 4", z3+z1);
> );
>
> picture layerY;
> layerY:=image(
> label("Nummer 5", z2+z3);
> );
>
> picture layerU;
> layerU:=image(
> label("number 6", z2+z1);
> );
> \stopuseMPgraphic
>
> \startuseMPgraphic{Gamma}
> draw layerU ;
> draw layerM ;
> \stopuseMPgraphic
>
> \startuseMPgraphic{layerset1}
> \includeMPgraphic{base}
> draw layerW ;
> draw layerA ;
> \stopuseMPgraphic
>
> \startuseMPgraphic{layerset2}
> \includeMPgraphic{layerset1} ;
> draw layerY ;
> \stopuseMPgraphic
>
> \startuseMPgraphic{layerset3}
> \includeMPgraphic{layerset2} ;
> \includeMPgraphic{Gamma} ;
> \stopuseMPgraphic
>
>
> \startuseMPgraphic{layerset4}
> \includeMPgraphic{layerset2} ;
> draw layerU ;
> \stopuseMPgraphic
>
> \startuseMPgraphic{layerset5}
> \includeMPgraphic{layerset4} ;
> \includeMPgraphic{Gamma} ;
> \stopuseMPgraphi
[NTG-context] Re: Working with layer sets with Metapost
Hi
On Thu, Feb 15, 2024 at 1:03 AM Emanuel Han via ntg-context
wrote:
>
> Dear list,
>
> the attached .tex file is the minimal working example we discussed today in
> the online meeting.
>
> I realized that the approach of looping through k of p[k] is not fitting my
> needs, because it's not flexible enough.
>
> I need another approach, one which works with layer sets.
>
> I would stop using p as an array, because with the layer sets approach we
> don't have a fixed order of the layers.
>
> So the definition of the layers would be something like
>
> picture layerA;
> layerA:=image(
> label("Word 1", z1);
> );
>
> picture layerW;
> layerW:=image(
> label("Mot 2", z2);
> );
>
> picture layerM;
> layerM:=image(
> label("Parola 3", z3);
> );
>
> picture layerC;
> layerC:=image(
> label("Wort 4", z3+z1);
> );
>
> picture layerY;
> layerY:=image(
> label("Nummer 5", z2+z3);
> );
>
> picture layerU;
> layerU:=image(
> label("number 6", z2+z1);
> );
>
> After that, I would define layer sets and layer subsets. This will be done
> manually for each layer set and each layer subset.
> I don't know the proper syntax to do that. Let's assume we could use a
> variable type called "myset".
>
> myset layersubsetGamma;
> layersubsetGamma:={layerU,layerM};
>
> In my logic, the layers will be drawn in the order of their appearance within
> the {}. In the example, drawn content of layerM might cover drawn content of
> layerU.
>
> Contrary to a layer subset, each layer set will result in a PDF page, and
> thus the layer sets are related to each other by an inner order. That's why I
> would use an array variable here with [].
>
> I don't know how to append a set. In the following example, I assumed there
> would be a function myappend(, should be appended with>)
>
> myset layerset[];
> layerset1 := {layerW,layerA};
> layerset2 := myappend{layerset1, layerY};
> layerset3 := myappend{layerset2, layersubsetGamma};
> layerset4 := myappend{layerset2, layerU};
> layerset5 := myappend{layerset4, layersubsetGamma};
>
> Finally, I would need each layerset[k] typeset on its own pdf page. And of
> course on each page k, only the layers which appear in the definition of the
> layerset[k] should be drawn on top of each other in the order as they appear
> in that definition.
>
> I'm very curious to hear your suggestions.
>
Not beautiful, perhaps, but maybe something like this could work? I
think there is no way out of doing some manual work to tell what you
want included on each page.
\startuseMPgraphic{base}
z1 = origin ;
z2 = (10,50) ;
z3 = (40,30) ;
picture layerA;
layerA:=image(
label("Word 1", z1);
);
picture layerW;
layerW:=image(
label("Mot 2", z2);
);
picture layerM;
layerM:=image(
label("Parola 3", z3);
);
picture layerC;
layerC:=image(
label("Wort 4", z3+z1);
);
picture layerY;
layerY:=image(
label("Nummer 5", z2+z3);
);
picture layerU;
layerU:=image(
label("number 6", z2+z1);
);
\stopuseMPgraphic
\startuseMPgraphic{Gamma}
draw layerU ;
draw layerM ;
\stopuseMPgraphic
\startuseMPgraphic{layerset1}
\includeMPgraphic{base}
draw layerW ;
draw layerA ;
\stopuseMPgraphic
\startuseMPgraphic{layerset2}
\includeMPgraphic{layerset1} ;
draw layerY ;
\stopuseMPgraphic
\startuseMPgraphic{layerset3}
\includeMPgraphic{layerset2} ;
\includeMPgraphic{Gamma} ;
\stopuseMPgraphic
\startuseMPgraphic{layerset4}
\includeMPgraphic{layerset2} ;
draw layerU ;
\stopuseMPgraphic
\startuseMPgraphic{layerset5}
\includeMPgraphic{layerset4} ;
\includeMPgraphic{Gamma} ;
\stopuseMPgraphic
\starttext
\startTEXpage[offset=1DK]
\useMPgraphic{layerset1}
\stopTEXpage
\startTEXpage[offset=1DK]
\useMPgraphic{layerset2}
\stopTEXpage
\startTEXpage[offset=1DK]
\useMPgraphic{layerset3}
\stopTEXpage
\startTEXpage[offset=1DK]
\useMPgraphic{layerset4}
\stopTEXpage
\startTEXpage[offset=1DK]
\useMPgraphic{layerset5}
\stopTEXpage
\stoptext
/Mikael
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[NTG-context] Working with layer sets with Metapost
Dear list,
the attached .tex file is the minimal working example we discussed today in the
online meeting.
I realized that the approach of looping through k of p[k] is not fitting my
needs, because it's not flexible enough.
I need another approach, one which works with layer sets.
I would stop using p as an array, because with the layer sets approach we don't
have a fixed order of the layers.
So the definition of the layers would be something like
picture layerA;
layerA:=image(
label("Word 1", z1);
);
picture layerW;
layerW:=image(
label("Mot 2", z2);
);
picture layerM;
layerM:=image(
label("Parola 3", z3);
);
picture layerC;
layerC:=image(
label("Wort 4", z3+z1);
);
picture layerY;
layerY:=image(
label("Nummer 5", z2+z3);
);
picture layerU;
layerU:=image(
label("number 6", z2+z1);
);
After that, I would define layer sets and layer subsets. This will be done
manually for each layer set and each layer subset.
I don't know the proper syntax to do that. Let's assume we could use a variable
type called "myset".
myset layersubsetGamma;
layersubsetGamma:={layerU,layerM};
In my logic, the layers will be drawn in the order of their appearance within
the {}. In the example, drawn content of layerM might cover drawn content of
layerU.
Contrary to a layer subset, each layer set will result in a PDF page, and thus
the layer sets are related to each other by an inner order. That's why I would
use an array variable here with [].
I don't know how to append a set. In the following example, I assumed there
would be a function myappend(, )
myset layerset[];
layerset1 := {layerW,layerA};
layerset2 := myappend{layerset1, layerY};
layerset3 := myappend{layerset2, layersubsetGamma};
layerset4 := myappend{layerset2, layerU};
layerset5 := myappend{layerset4, layersubsetGamma};
Finally, I would need each layerset[k] typeset on its own pdf page. And of
course on each page k, only the layers which appear in the definition of the
layerset[k] should be drawn on top of each other in the order as they appear in
that definition.
I'm very curious to hear your suggestions.
Thanks
Emanuel
multipage_metapost_mwe-very_simple.tex
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[NTG-context] Re: Seeindex with zie instead of see?
Am 14.02.24 um 10:42 schrieb G.C.H.M. Verhaag via ntg-context: Hi ConTeXt users, Wondering whether there is a possibility to modify the word *see* into the Dutch word *zie* in the use of the \seeindex command? Did you set \mainlanguage[nl]? Hraban ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://mailman.ntg.nl/mailman3/lists/ntg-context.ntg.nl webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / https://context.aanhet.net (mirror) archive : https://github.com/contextgarden/context wiki : https://wiki.contextgarden.net ___
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[NTG-context] Seeindex with zie instead of see?
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[NTG-context] Re: How to print the book title and section title where \reference is located?
> On 7 Feb 2024, at 03:47, Joel via ntg-context wrote:
>
> I have an extensive multi-book project. Each book has a nickname, like TB for
> "Textbook", "WB 1" for the "Workbook, Vol. 1":
>
> TB -- 01_textbook.tex
> WB 1 -- 03_workbook.tex
> WB 2 -- 04_workbook.tex
> WB 3 -- 05_workbook.tex
> WB 4 -- 06_workbook.tex
> TG -- 08_teachersguide.tex
>
> I have to prove to a government agency that the content meets several
> requirements, so I'm giving them a simple file that says something like
> "Requirement A is met in TB, "Cats", p. 11" basically letting the reader know
> its in the textbook, section called "Cats", on p. 11. To mark the pages, I'm
> simply dropping in macros called "\requirementA" "\requirementB" on whichever
> page of whichever book demonstrates it meets the requirement, then the file
> will aquatically list the book, section, and page number by searching for
> that macro.
[snip]
> Here is a sample message what the output should give:
>
> "Requirement A is met in WB 3, "Bears", p. 33."
Taking you literally in that you want a *file* listing the occurences and not a
typeset page listing the occurrences then you could try using the following in
your document at the places where you currently put \requirementA etc:
\writestatus{RequirementMet}{Requirement A is met in section
\fetchmark[section][current], p. \pagenumber}
This will write the current section title and page number to the console
listing, prefixed by the word "RequirementMet". To produce the file for your
customer all you have to do is filter these lines out of the .log file that is
produced when you compile your book. In Unix-like systems that is a simple:
grep RequirementMet file.log
Regards,
—
Bruce Horrocks
Hampshire, UK
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[NTG-context] Re: cont-new.mkiv and \everymathematics
On 1/20/2024 7:49 PM, Rogers, Michael K wrote:
Hi all,
In writing class notes, I frequently make one-letter macros for formatted
symbols, such \v and \w for vectors. Generally speaking, one-letter names for
function/macros/variables is frowned upon in programming, but I find this
localized use very convenient.
In cont-new.mkiv, one finds definitions of \t and \w (via \let) appended to
\everymathematics, which overwrites my definition of \w every time TeX enters
math mode. I can fix this by appending my definition to \everymathematics. The
inefficiency seems minor, and I can live with it. I have a question and a
couple of points:
1. Is there a better way than adding the definition to \everymathematics?
2. I don’t think these definitions should be in ConTeXt. Let users add them if
they wish. Or add a ‘useshortcuts’ option to \setupmathematics.
3. \t and \w are undocumented, \mathword is undocumented, and it took me a
while to track down the bug it created for me. In particular, they overwrote my
definition only in math mode, and “\show\w” did not work in math mode.
Frustrating. I could add a wikipage, I suppose, but I’m not proud of the
extent of my knowledge: “\mathword{word} typesets “word” in math mode in a
normal text font, somewhat like \text{word}, and \w is an abbreviation of it
that is added to \everymathematics on startup.”
adding to \everymathematics can work fine as long as you're the last one
adding
when you overload built in commands,
\enabledirectives[overloadmode=error] % or warning
can give you some protection
Hans
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[NTG-context] cont-new.mkiv and \everymathematics
Hi all,
In writing class notes, I frequently make one-letter macros for formatted
symbols, such \v and \w for vectors. Generally speaking, one-letter names for
function/macros/variables is frowned upon in programming, but I find this
localized use very convenient.
In cont-new.mkiv, one finds definitions of \t and \w (via \let) appended to
\everymathematics, which overwrites my definition of \w every time TeX enters
math mode. I can fix this by appending my definition to \everymathematics. The
inefficiency seems minor, and I can live with it. I have a question and a
couple of points:
1. Is there a better way than adding the definition to \everymathematics?
2. I don’t think these definitions should be in ConTeXt. Let users add them if
they wish. Or add a ‘useshortcuts’ option to \setupmathematics.
3. \t and \w are undocumented, \mathword is undocumented, and it took me a
while to track down the bug it created for me. In particular, they overwrote my
definition only in math mode, and “\show\w” did not work in math mode.
Frustrating. I could add a wikipage, I suppose, but I’m not proud of the
extent of my knowledge: “\mathword{word} typesets “word” in math mode in a
normal text font, somewhat like \text{word}, and \w is an abbreviation of it
that is added to \everymathematics on startup.”
Thank you very much,
Michael
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[NTG-context] How to Create Asymmetrical Continuous Columns in ConTeXt?
Hi all,
I have a lengthy text that I wish to seamlessly incorporate using the
\input{mytext} command in ConTeXt.
Additionally, I aim to present it in asymmetrical continuous columns, where the
text flows over several pages.
I have tried paragraphs and columns, but in paragraphs, I can't flow text
across several pages without manually breaking it, and in columns, I haven't
found a way to implement asymmetric columns.
How can I achieve this layout in ConTeXt? this is a MWE but it does not work
properly:
\definecolumnset[mymixedcolumn][n=2]
\setupcolumnset[mymixedcolumn:1][width=4cm]
\setupcolumnset[mymixedcolumn:2][width=7cm]
\starttext
\startcolumnset[mymixedcolumn]
\dorecurse{5}{
\input{knuth}
}
\stopcolumnset
\stoptext
also is there a mechanism to automatically continue text between desired
frames? For example, is there a way to write a function that, if the text
reaches the end of the line and there is not enough space for another line in
that frame, it continues the text in another frame that is already specified?
in other word How do you make text flow to another part of a page?
Thanks in advance.
Best regards,
Seyal
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[NTG-context] Re: LMTX schema for poster
Am 11.01.24 um 22:04 schrieb Bruce Horrocks: 1. "ConTeXt" should be the biggest word - or as an obvious title for the poster, away from the actual drawing. This will be only a part of the poster. I imagine a 3x3 grid with a title above and some information (website etc.) below. The 9 elements of the grid will be - such a diagram that explains the building blocks / general workflow – the diagram of the layout areas – the project structure (environment, product, component) – some examples of code and results I wanted to use the “christmas card” squares for borders around and inbetween. 2. Don't add the "MkXL" bit - it's a distracting detail that no one needs to know at this stage. Also it looks like "Mk 40" in Roman numerals, or extra large. ok. But “extra large” is intentional, I guess. 3. I though Hans had stopped using the TeX style capitalisation now i.e. just "Context"? Hans uses different versions. We use “context group”, but I keep ConTeXt; esp. in the context of LaTeX (DANTE booth!), I’d like to stress that it’s still TeX. 4. It's not clear whether the intersecting boxes are simply decorative or meant to present some sort of logical structure. I'm happy for it to be decorative, in which case fewer labels might be better. ConTeXt “wraps” the LuaMetaTeX binary, since it handles the input as well as the output. I wasn’t sure how to show what controls what. 5. Similar to the box structure comment is that it's not clear which words I should be looking at. Ask yourself: what word(s) do I want the viewer to remember when they walk away? 6. Consider swapping the TeX and MetaPost circles so that Lua, MetaPost and TeX are read left to right as they appear in the acronym LMTX. Perhaps invert the "triangle" so that there are two circles at the top. My first idea was to show that TeX and MP are under Lua control, but Hans disagreed. So while the 3 subsystems interact, I wanted to keep TeX on top. 7. It doesn't really tell the viewer that Context is a typesetting system - it looks like it is a system for producing XMLs and PDFs. (Which is what it is but... much more) I’ll show some typography on the poster, and there will be books around. 8. Don't forget space for a URL and/or a QR code to the Contextgarden website. See above. Sorry if the above sounds harsh - not meant to be - just brain storming. No problem, thank you! I have a suggestion though. Use the Christmas card code / memory game code to produce patterns to use as the dots in the QR code? If the QR is large enough for people to distinguish the individual dots then it would provide a talking point? Or maybe have a copy of the card game to hand and challenge them to find a randomly drawn card in the QR code? I don’t think I understand your intention. I wouldn’t construct a QR code out of other stuff, it would become too big. Hraban ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://mailman.ntg.nl/mailman3/lists/ntg-context.ntg.nl webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / https://context.aanhet.net (mirror) archive : https://github.com/contextgarden/context wiki : https://wiki.contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Re: LMTX schema for poster
> On 11 Jan 2024, at 19:15, vm via ntg-context wrote: > > > > On 11/01/2024 19:52, Henning Hraban Ramm wrote: >> Here’s a preliminary schema of LMTX. What do you think? > > as is, it is difficult to understand where to look. > what does is describe? > > e.g. what is the distinction between the 'source' (lua tex) and the > 'resources' (fonts icc lib) and the 'frontend' (tex xml png ...mp) > (no lua?) Agreed. In no particular order: 1. "ConTeXt" should be the biggest word - or as an obvious title for the poster, away from the actual drawing. 2. Don't add the "MkXL" bit - it's a distracting detail that no one needs to know at this stage. Also it looks like "Mk 40" in Roman numerals, or extra large. 3. I though Hans had stopped using the TeX style capitalisation now i.e. just "Context"? 4. It's not clear whether the intersecting boxes are simply decorative or meant to present some sort of logical structure. I'm happy for it to be decorative, in which case fewer labels might be better. 5. Similar to the box structure comment is that it's not clear which words I should be looking at. Ask yourself: what word(s) do I want the viewer to remember when they walk away? 6. Consider swapping the TeX and MetaPost circles so that Lua, MetaPost and TeX are read left to right as they appear in the acronym LMTX. Perhaps invert the "triangle" so that there are two circles at the top. 7. It doesn't really tell the viewer that Context is a typesetting system - it looks like it is a system for producing XMLs and PDFs. (Which is what it is but... much more) 8. Don't forget space for a URL and/or a QR code to the Contextgarden website. Sorry if the above sounds harsh - not meant to be - just brain storming. I have a suggestion though. Use the Christmas card code / memory game code to produce patterns to use as the dots in the QR code? If the QR is large enough for people to distinguish the individual dots then it would provide a talking point? Or maybe have a copy of the card game to hand and challenge them to find a randomly drawn card in the QR code? — Bruce Horrocks Hampshire, UK — Bruce Horrocks Hampshire, UK ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://mailman.ntg.nl/mailman3/lists/ntg-context.ntg.nl webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / https://context.aanhet.net (mirror) archive : https://github.com/contextgarden/context wiki : https://wiki.contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Re: Chemnitz, Leipzig, Call for Poster
Dear list, dear Hraban, > Le 7 janv. 2024 à 13:58, Henning Hraban Ramm a écrit : > > Am 07.01.24 um 17:11 schrieb garulfo: >> does this kind of poster would make sense ? >> https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Cover_Pages#Poster_01_-_proposal_for_Libre_Planet_2021 > > Thank you, that looks good but it’s not what I had in mind. > > I meant a poster _about_ ConTeXt, not only made with our toolset (I have a > stack of books for that). Maybe something about typography. > > Here’s how the DANTE booth at FrOSCon 2023 looked like: > https://yemaya.fiee.net/s/qTkeXAmXmJeosJc > (The “mindmap” diagram on the left shows projects supported by DANTE, in the > middle a drawing by Duane Bibby, on the right a Tux with its TikZ source code > in the back.) > We also had posters that show the architecture of TeX/LaTeX, but they were > seriously outdated. > > Some elements that might fit: > – some example code (like from Mikael’s BachoTeX presentation) > – anatomy of a word and a formula (with all those little boxes and measures), > maybe also in Arabic > – dodo & cow drawings from Mikael’s math manual > – overview of layout areas (I re-made Sietse’s drawing from the wiki for my > book) > - workflow diagrams > – parts of LuaMetaTeX > – artwork by Eçir Baff (art-aleatoire.com) > – Hans’ recent christmas card / memory game artwork > > But I don’t want just a wild collection of stuff, there should be something > connecting them. It should be interesting to look at as well as basic > information about ConTeXt. > Hraban > The suite ConTeXt/Metafun is so powerful, and can do so much different things, as already mentioned, that it can be difficult to present it in a coherent way. Perhaps this angle is that Context is a real Swiss Army knife: not only can it do lots of different things, it can do them very very well! You can take (and or I can provide in PDF of) any artwork from art-aleatoire.com <http://art-aleatoire.com/>, and if you wish/need I can contribute to an « art » part ! Fabrice.___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://mailman.ntg.nl/mailman3/lists/ntg-context.ntg.nl webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / https://context.aanhet.net (mirror) archive : https://github.com/contextgarden/context wiki : https://wiki.contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Re: Chemnitz, Leipzig, Call for Poster
Am 07.01.24 um 17:11 schrieb garulfo: does this kind of poster would make sense ? https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Cover_Pages#Poster_01_-_proposal_for_Libre_Planet_2021 Thank you, that looks good but it’s not what I had in mind. I meant a poster _about_ ConTeXt, not only made with our toolset (I have a stack of books for that). Maybe something about typography. Here’s how the DANTE booth at FrOSCon 2023 looked like: https://yemaya.fiee.net/s/qTkeXAmXmJeosJc (The “mindmap” diagram on the left shows projects supported by DANTE, in the middle a drawing by Duane Bibby, on the right a Tux with its TikZ source code in the back.) We also had posters that show the architecture of TeX/LaTeX, but they were seriously outdated. Some elements that might fit: – some example code (like from Mikael’s BachoTeX presentation) – anatomy of a word and a formula (with all those little boxes and measures), maybe also in Arabic – dodo & cow drawings from Mikael’s math manual – overview of layout areas (I re-made Sietse’s drawing from the wiki for my book) - workflow diagrams – parts of LuaMetaTeX – artwork by Eçir Baff (art-aleatoire.com) – Hans’ recent christmas card / memory game artwork But I don’t want just a wild collection of stuff, there should be something connecting them. It should be interesting to look at as well as basic information about ConTeXt. Hraban ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://mailman.ntg.nl/mailman3/lists/ntg-context.ntg.nl webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / https://context.aanhet.net (mirror) archive : https://github.com/contextgarden/context wiki : https://wiki.contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Re: multipage metapost output from ConTeXt
Hi Mikael,
with the solution provided by you, I could work on my graphic which grows from
page to page. So far I have already 28 pages. Now I would like to go back to
the summed graphic of p1 to p21 and add the coming p29, p30 etc. to only that
(that means contents of p22 to p28 should not be visible on pages 29 and
forward).
I don't bother you with my code which is too long. Let's use the mwe provided
by you (I added it here for convenience), where we have 3 pages. How can I have
the content of p2 not be added on page 3 and forward?
\startuseMPgraphic{base}
picture p[];
path TheFrame ;
TheFrame := fullsquare scaled 5in ;
z1 = (60,40);
z2 = (40,90);
z3 = (10,70);
p1:=image(
label("Word 1", z1);
);
p2:=image(
label("Mot 2", z2);
);
p3:=image(
label("Parola 3", z3);
);
\stopuseMPgraphic
\starttext
\dorecurse{3}{ % Frame
\startMPpage[pagestate=start]
\includeMPgraphic{base}
currentime := #1 ;
% Just for learning :
draw TheFrame withpen pencircle scaled .1in withcolor magenta ;
draw textext("T="(currentime)) scaled 2 shifted(0,2in)
withcolor magenta ;
for k=1 upto currentime: addto currentpicture also p[k]; endfor
setbounds currentpicture to TheFrame ;
desiredformat := 1080;% In pixels (will be converted by default at 72dpi)
currentpicture := currentpicture xysized (desiredformat ,desiredformat );
\stopMPpage
}
\stoptext
On Dez. 2 2023, at 7:46 pm, Mikael Sundqvist wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I don't know if \startMPinclusions \stopMPinclusions shall work with
> \startMPpage and \stopMPpage. In this case, one can use a separate
> graphics:
>
> \startuseMPgraphic{base}
> picture p[];
> path TheFrame ;
> TheFrame := fullsquare scaled 5in ;
> z1 = (60,40);
> z2 = (40,90);
> z3 = (10,70);
>
> p1:=image(
> label("Word 1", z1);
> );
>
> p2:=image(
> label("Mot 2", z2);
> );
>
> p3:=image(
> label("Parola 3", z3);
> );
>
> \stopuseMPgraphic
> \starttext
> \dorecurse{3}{ % Frame
> \startMPpage[pagestate=start]
> \includeMPgraphic{base}
> currentime := #1 ;
> % Just for learning :
> draw TheFrame withpen pencircle scaled .1in withcolor magenta ;
> draw textext("T="(currentime)) scaled 2 shifted(0,2in)
> withcolor magenta ;
> for k=1 upto currentime: addto currentpicture also p[k]; endfor
> setbounds currentpicture to TheFrame ;
>
> desiredformat := 1080;% In pixels (will be converted by default at 72dpi)
> currentpicture := currentpicture xysized (desiredformat ,desiredformat );
> \stopMPpage
> }
>
> \stoptext
> /Mikael
> On Sat, Dec 2, 2023 at 6:14 PM Emanuel Han via ntg-context
> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Mikael,
> >
> > here's a very simple mwe for the label(textext()) issue. On page 1, the
> > text "Word 1" should be drawn in position z1. On page 2, the same text in
> > the same position should be visible, and the text "Mot 2" in position p2
> > should be added. And so on.
> >
> > \startMPinclusions
> >
> > picture p[];
> > path TheFrame ;
> > TheFrame := fullsquare scaled 5in ;
> >
> > z1 = (60,40);
> > z2 = (40,90);
> > z3 = (10,70);
> >
> > p1:=image(
> > label(textext("Word 1"), z1);
> > );
> >
> > p2:=image(
> > label(textext("Mot 2"), z2);
> > );
> >
> > p3:=image(
> > label(textext("Parola 3"), z3);
> > );
> >
> > \stopMPinclusions
> >
> > \starttext
> >
> > \dorecurse{3}{ % Frame
> > \startMPpage[pagestate=start]
> > currentime := #1 ;
> > % Just for learning :
> > draw TheFrame withpen pencircle scaled .1in withcolor magenta ;
> > draw textext("T="(currentime)) scaled 2 shifted(0,2in) withcolor
> > magenta ;
> > for k=1 upto currentime: draw p[k]; endfor
> > setbounds currentpicture to TheFrame ;
> >
> > desiredformat := 1080;% In pixels (will be converted by default at 72dpi)
> > currentpicture := currentpicture xysized (desiredformat ,desiredformat );
> >
> > \stopMPpage
> > }
> >
> > \stoptext
> >
> > On Dez. 2 2023, at 5:22 pm, Mikael Sundqvist wrote:
> >
> > Hi Emanuel,
> >
> > I am not sure I understand your question, and since you use fonts that
> > i do not have, I cannot test your example as is. But, maybe, if you
> > want to redraw a picture, you can do
> >
> > addto currentpicture also p1;
> >
> > where you want it.
> >
> > /Mikael
> >
> > PS For the text thing, I did not get it. Could one have a _very
> > simple_ example showing only that problem and no other problem?
> >
> > On Sat, Dec 2, 2
[NTG-context] How to implement word corrections
Hi, list! I'm writing a small module to print word corrections, e.g.,
things like "irregardless" > "regardless"or "alverja" > "arveja" ('pea' in
Spanish) with overstrikes and underlines, but I want feedback to make a
module in the ConTeXt fashion. I hope the PDF attached explains better what
I mean. Just in case, I want to know if anyone else in the mailing list is
acquainted with grammar and orthography quizzes/exercises/exams in ConTeXt.
Merry Christmas and Happy New Year!
Best regards,
Jairo
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[NTG-context] Re: multipage metapost output from ConTeXt
Dear Emanuel,
> Le 2 déc. 2023 à 12:08, Emanuel Han via ntg-context a
> écrit :
>
> Hi Mikael,
>
> here's a very simple mwe for the label(textext()) issue. On page 1, the text
> "Word 1" should be drawn in position z1. On page 2, the same text in the same
> position should be visible, and the text "Mot 2" in position p2 should be
> added. And so on.
>
> \startMPinclusions
>
> picture p[];
> path TheFrame ;
> TheFrame := fullsquare scaled 5in ;
>
> z1 = (60,40);
> z2 = (40,90);
> z3 = (10,70);
>
> p1:=image(
> label(textext("Word 1"), z1);
> );
>
> p2:=image(
> label(textext("Mot 2"), z2);
> );
>
> p3:=image(
> label(textext("Parola 3"), z3);
> );
>
> \stopMPinclusions
>
> \starttext
>
> \dorecurse{3}{ % Frame
> \startMPpage[pagestate=start]
> currentime := #1 ;
> % Just for learning :
> draw TheFrame withpen pencircle scaled .1in withcolor magenta ;
> draw textext("T="(currentime)) scaled 2 shifted(0,2in) withcolor
> magenta ;
> for k=1 upto currentime: draw p[k]; endfor
> setbounds currentpicture to TheFrame ;
>
> desiredformat := 1080;% In pixels (will be converted by default at 72dpi)
> currentpicture := currentpicture xysized (desiredformat ,desiredformat );
>
> \stopMPpage
> }
>
> \stoptext
>
> On Dez. 2 2023, at 5:22 pm, Mikael Sundqvist wrote:
> Hi Emanuel,
>
> I am not sure I understand your question, and since you use fonts that
> i do not have, I cannot test your example as is. But, maybe, if you
> want to redraw a picture, you can do
>
> addto currentpicture also p1;
>
> where you want it.
>
> /Mikael
>
> PS For the text thing, I did not get it. Could one have a _very
> simple_ example showing only that problem and no other problem?
>
> On Sat, Dec 2, 2023 at 12:58 PM fv leung wrote:
> >
> > You didn't specify the color of path A in p2 and p4. So it's drawn in black.
> > The other issue, I can't help.
> >
> > Emanuel Han via ntg-context 於 2023年12月2日 週六 下午7:23寫道：
> >>
> >> So is there a way to circumvent these issues? Or an explanation for this
> >> behavior, so that I can try to find a solution by myself?
> >>
> >> Thanks
> >> Emanuel
> >>
> >> On Nov. 29 2023, at 12:25 pm, Emanuel Han via ntg-context
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> Dear Aditya and Fabrice,
> >> thanks for your responses.
> >>
> >> I included some of Fabrice's code into mine for testing purpose, and
> >> indeed the multipage works now.
> >> What is bizarre is that issues appear now that didn't appear before:
> >>
> >> Path A is drawn with color red on page 1, and in color black on all
> >> following pages, while it should stay red.
> >> textext(, ) is overwriting with
> >> "T="(currentime) which has been used previously in textext()
> >> before the for k=1 endfor loop. This overwriting happens only for the
> >> first textext() which occurs inside the for k=1 endfor loop. All other
> >> textext() inside the for k=1 endfor loop are not drawn at all. If the line
> >> « draw textext("T="(currentime)) scaled 2 shifted(0,2in) withcolor
> >> magenta ; » is commented out, the first textext() inside the for k=1
> >> endfor loop is not drawn neither. It must be an issue with textext(),
> >> because when I replace textext() by lmt_outline[], the text is drawn.
> >>
> >> Adjusted mwe:
> >>
> >> \enableregime[utf] % enable unicoded input
> >>
> >> \definefontfamily [RomanFont] [rm] [calluna]
> >>
> >> \definefontfamily [KoreanFont] [rm] [applemyungjo]
> >>
> >> \definefontfamily [JapaneseFont] [rm] [hannotatesc]
> >>
> >> \definefontfeature
> >> [fea]
> >> [mode=node,language=dflt,script=arab,
> >> init=yes,
> >> medi=yes,
> >> fina=yes,
> >> isol=yes,
> >> calt=yes,
> >> rlig=yes,
> >> tlig=yes,
> >> trep=yes,
> >> curs=yes,
> >> kern=yes,
> >> mark=yes
> >> ]
> >>
> >> \starttypescript [serif] [notonaskharabic]
> >> \definefontsynonym [notonaskharabic-Light] [name:notonaskharabic]
> >> [features=fea]
> >> \definefontsynonym [notonaskharabic-Bold] [name:notonaskharabic]
> >> [features=fea]
> >> \definefontsynonym [notonaskharabic-Italic] [name:notonaskharabic]
> >> [features=fea]
> >> \definefontsy
[NTG-context] Re: multipage metapost output from ConTeXt
Thank you Mikael,
this works!
Emanuel
On Dez. 2 2023, at 7:46 pm, Mikael Sundqvist wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I don't know if \startMPinclusions \stopMPinclusions shall work with
> \startMPpage and \stopMPpage. In this case, one can use a separate
> graphics:
>
> \startuseMPgraphic{base}
> picture p[];
> path TheFrame ;
> TheFrame := fullsquare scaled 5in ;
> z1 = (60,40);
> z2 = (40,90);
> z3 = (10,70);
>
> p1:=image(
> label("Word 1", z1);
> );
>
> p2:=image(
> label("Mot 2", z2);
> );
>
> p3:=image(
> label("Parola 3", z3);
> );
>
> \stopuseMPgraphic
> \starttext
> \dorecurse{3}{ % Frame
> \startMPpage[pagestate=start]
> \includeMPgraphic{base}
> currentime := #1 ;
> % Just for learning :
> draw TheFrame withpen pencircle scaled .1in withcolor magenta ;
> draw textext("T="(currentime)) scaled 2 shifted(0,2in)
> withcolor magenta ;
> for k=1 upto currentime: addto currentpicture also p[k]; endfor
> setbounds currentpicture to TheFrame ;
>
> desiredformat := 1080;% In pixels (will be converted by default at 72dpi)
> currentpicture := currentpicture xysized (desiredformat ,desiredformat );
> \stopMPpage
> }
>
> \stoptext
> /Mikael
> On Sat, Dec 2, 2023 at 6:14 PM Emanuel Han via ntg-context
> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Mikael,
> >
> > here's a very simple mwe for the label(textext()) issue. On page 1, the
> > text "Word 1" should be drawn in position z1. On page 2, the same text in
> > the same position should be visible, and the text "Mot 2" in position p2
> > should be added. And so on.
> >
> > \startMPinclusions
> >
> > picture p[];
> > path TheFrame ;
> > TheFrame := fullsquare scaled 5in ;
> >
> > z1 = (60,40);
> > z2 = (40,90);
> > z3 = (10,70);
> >
> > p1:=image(
> > label(textext("Word 1"), z1);
> > );
> >
> > p2:=image(
> > label(textext("Mot 2"), z2);
> > );
> >
> > p3:=image(
> > label(textext("Parola 3"), z3);
> > );
> >
> > \stopMPinclusions
> >
> > \starttext
> >
> > \dorecurse{3}{ % Frame
> > \startMPpage[pagestate=start]
> > currentime := #1 ;
> > % Just for learning :
> > draw TheFrame withpen pencircle scaled .1in withcolor magenta ;
> > draw textext("T="(currentime)) scaled 2 shifted(0,2in) withcolor
> > magenta ;
> > for k=1 upto currentime: draw p[k]; endfor
> > setbounds currentpicture to TheFrame ;
> >
> > desiredformat := 1080;% In pixels (will be converted by default at 72dpi)
> > currentpicture := currentpicture xysized (desiredformat ,desiredformat );
> >
> > \stopMPpage
> > }
> >
> > \stoptext
> >
> > On Dez. 2 2023, at 5:22 pm, Mikael Sundqvist wrote:
> >
> > Hi Emanuel,
> >
> > I am not sure I understand your question, and since you use fonts that
> > i do not have, I cannot test your example as is. But, maybe, if you
> > want to redraw a picture, you can do
> >
> > addto currentpicture also p1;
> >
> > where you want it.
> >
> > /Mikael
> >
> > PS For the text thing, I did not get it. Could one have a _very
> > simple_ example showing only that problem and no other problem?
> >
> > On Sat, Dec 2, 2023 at 12:58 PM fv leung wrote:
> > >
> > > You didn't specify the color of path A in p2 and p4. So it's drawn in
> > > black.
> > > The other issue, I can't help.
> > >
> > > Emanuel Han via ntg-context 於 2023年12月2日 週六 下午7:23寫道：
> > >>
> > >> So is there a way to circumvent these issues? Or an explanation for this
> > >> behavior, so that I can try to find a solution by myself?
> > >>
> > >> Thanks
> > >> Emanuel
> > >>
> > >> On Nov. 29 2023, at 12:25 pm, Emanuel Han via ntg-context
> > >> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Dear Aditya and Fabrice,
> > >> thanks for your responses.
> > >>
> > >> I included some of Fabrice's code into mine for testing purpose, and
> > >> indeed the multipage works now.
> > >> What is bizarre is that issues appear now that didn't appear before:
> > >>
> > >> Path A is drawn with color red on page 1, and in color black on all
> > >> following pages, while it should stay red.
> > >> textext(, ) is overwriting with
> > >> "T="(currentime) which has been used previously in textext()
> > >> b
[NTG-context] Re: multipage metapost output from ConTeXt
Hi,
I don't know if \startMPinclusions \stopMPinclusions shall work with
\startMPpage and \stopMPpage. In this case, one can use a separate
graphics:
\startuseMPgraphic{base}
picture p[];
path TheFrame ;
TheFrame := fullsquare scaled 5in ;
z1 = (60,40);
z2 = (40,90);
z3 = (10,70);
p1:=image(
label("Word 1", z1);
);
p2:=image(
label("Mot 2", z2);
);
p3:=image(
label("Parola 3", z3);
);
\stopuseMPgraphic
\starttext
\dorecurse{3}{ % Frame
\startMPpage[pagestate=start]
\includeMPgraphic{base}
currentime := #1 ;
% Just for learning :
draw TheFrame withpen pencircle scaled .1in withcolor magenta ;
draw textext("T="(currentime)) scaled 2 shifted(0,2in)
withcolor magenta ;
for k=1 upto currentime: addto currentpicture also p[k]; endfor
setbounds currentpicture to TheFrame ;
desiredformat := 1080;% In pixels (will be converted by default at 72dpi)
currentpicture := currentpicture xysized (desiredformat ,desiredformat );
\stopMPpage
}
\stoptext
/Mikael
On Sat, Dec 2, 2023 at 6:14 PM Emanuel Han via ntg-context
wrote:
>
> Hi Mikael,
>
> here's a very simple mwe for the label(textext()) issue. On page 1, the text
> "Word 1" should be drawn in position z1. On page 2, the same text in the same
> position should be visible, and the text "Mot 2" in position p2 should be
> added. And so on.
>
> \startMPinclusions
>
> picture p[];
> path TheFrame ;
> TheFrame := fullsquare scaled 5in ;
>
> z1 = (60,40);
> z2 = (40,90);
> z3 = (10,70);
>
> p1:=image(
> label(textext("Word 1"), z1);
> );
>
> p2:=image(
> label(textext("Mot 2"), z2);
> );
>
> p3:=image(
> label(textext("Parola 3"), z3);
> );
>
> \stopMPinclusions
>
> \starttext
>
> \dorecurse{3}{ % Frame
> \startMPpage[pagestate=start]
> currentime := #1 ;
> % Just for learning :
> draw TheFrame withpen pencircle scaled .1in withcolor magenta ;
> draw textext("T="(currentime)) scaled 2 shifted(0,2in) withcolor
> magenta ;
> for k=1 upto currentime: draw p[k]; endfor
> setbounds currentpicture to TheFrame ;
>
> desiredformat := 1080;% In pixels (will be converted by default at 72dpi)
> currentpicture := currentpicture xysized (desiredformat ,desiredformat );
>
> \stopMPpage
> }
>
> \stoptext
>
> On Dez. 2 2023, at 5:22 pm, Mikael Sundqvist wrote:
>
> Hi Emanuel,
>
> I am not sure I understand your question, and since you use fonts that
> i do not have, I cannot test your example as is. But, maybe, if you
> want to redraw a picture, you can do
>
> addto currentpicture also p1;
>
> where you want it.
>
> /Mikael
>
> PS For the text thing, I did not get it. Could one have a _very
> simple_ example showing only that problem and no other problem?
>
> On Sat, Dec 2, 2023 at 12:58 PM fv leung wrote:
> >
> > You didn't specify the color of path A in p2 and p4. So it's drawn in black.
> > The other issue, I can't help.
> >
> > Emanuel Han via ntg-context 於 2023年12月2日 週六 下午7:23寫道：
> >>
> >> So is there a way to circumvent these issues? Or an explanation for this
> >> behavior, so that I can try to find a solution by myself?
> >>
> >> Thanks
> >> Emanuel
> >>
> >> On Nov. 29 2023, at 12:25 pm, Emanuel Han via ntg-context
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> Dear Aditya and Fabrice,
> >> thanks for your responses.
> >>
> >> I included some of Fabrice's code into mine for testing purpose, and
> >> indeed the multipage works now.
> >> What is bizarre is that issues appear now that didn't appear before:
> >>
> >> Path A is drawn with color red on page 1, and in color black on all
> >> following pages, while it should stay red.
> >> textext(, ) is overwriting with
> >> "T="(currentime) which has been used previously in textext()
> >> before the for k=1 endfor loop. This overwriting happens only for the
> >> first textext() which occurs inside the for k=1 endfor loop. All other
> >> textext() inside the for k=1 endfor loop are not drawn at all. If the line
> >> « draw textext("T="(currentime)) scaled 2 shifted(0,2in) withcolor
> >> magenta ; » is commented out, the first textext() inside the for k=1
> >> endfor loop is not drawn neither. It must be an issue with textext(),
> >> because when I replace textext() by lmt_outline[], the text is drawn.
> >>
> >> Adjusted mwe:
> >>
> >> \enableregime[utf] % enable unicoded input
> >>
> >> \definefontfamily [RomanFont] [rm] [calluna]
> >>
>
[NTG-context] Re: multipage metapost output from ConTeXt
Hi Mikael,
here's a very simple mwe for the label(textext()) issue. On page 1, the text
"Word 1" should be drawn in position z1. On page 2, the same text in the same
position should be visible, and the text "Mot 2" in position p2 should be
added. And so on.
\startMPinclusions
picture p[];
path TheFrame ;
TheFrame := fullsquare scaled 5in ;
z1 = (60,40);
z2 = (40,90);
z3 = (10,70);
p1:=image(
label(textext("Word 1"), z1);
);
p2:=image(
label(textext("Mot 2"), z2);
);
p3:=image(
label(textext("Parola 3"), z3);
);
\stopMPinclusions
\starttext
\dorecurse{3}{ % Frame
\startMPpage[pagestate=start]
currentime := #1 ;
% Just for learning :
draw TheFrame withpen pencircle scaled .1in withcolor magenta ;
draw textext("T="(currentime)) scaled 2 shifted(0,2in) withcolor
magenta ;
for k=1 upto currentime: draw p[k]; endfor
setbounds currentpicture to TheFrame ;
desiredformat := 1080;% In pixels (will be converted by default at 72dpi)
currentpicture := currentpicture xysized (desiredformat ,desiredformat );
\stopMPpage
}
\stoptext
On Dez. 2 2023, at 5:22 pm, Mikael Sundqvist wrote:
> Hi Emanuel,
>
> I am not sure I understand your question, and since you use fonts that
> i do not have, I cannot test your example as is. But, maybe, if you
> want to redraw a picture, you can do
>
> addto currentpicture also p1;
> where you want it.
> /Mikael
> PS For the text thing, I did not get it. Could one have a _very
> simple_ example showing only that problem and no other problem?
>
> On Sat, Dec 2, 2023 at 12:58 PM fv leung wrote:
> >
> > You didn't specify the color of path A in p2 and p4. So it's drawn in black.
> > The other issue, I can't help.
> >
> > Emanuel Han via ntg-context 於 2023年12月2日 週六 下午7:23寫道：
> >>
> >> So is there a way to circumvent these issues? Or an explanation for this
> >> behavior, so that I can try to find a solution by myself?
> >>
> >> Thanks
> >> Emanuel
> >>
> >> On Nov. 29 2023, at 12:25 pm, Emanuel Han via ntg-context
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> Dear Aditya and Fabrice,
> >> thanks for your responses.
> >>
> >> I included some of Fabrice's code into mine for testing purpose, and
> >> indeed the multipage works now.
> >> What is bizarre is that issues appear now that didn't appear before:
> >>
> >> Path A is drawn with color red on page 1, and in color black on all
> >> following pages, while it should stay red.
> >> textext(, ) is overwriting with
> >> "T="(currentime) which has been used previously in textext()
> >> before the for k=1 endfor loop. This overwriting happens only for the
> >> first textext() which occurs inside the for k=1 endfor loop. All other
> >> textext() inside the for k=1 endfor loop are not drawn at all. If the line
> >> « draw textext("T="(currentime)) scaled 2 shifted(0,2in) withcolor
> >> magenta ; » is commented out, the first textext() inside the for k=1
> >> endfor loop is not drawn neither. It must be an issue with textext(),
> >> because when I replace textext() by lmt_outline[], the text is drawn.
> >>
> >> Adjusted mwe:
> >>
> >> \enableregime[utf] % enable unicoded input
> >>
> >> \definefontfamily [RomanFont] [rm] [calluna]
> >>
> >> \definefontfamily [KoreanFont] [rm] [applemyungjo]
> >>
> >> \definefontfamily [JapaneseFont] [rm] [hannotatesc]
> >>
> >> \definefontfeature
> >> [fea]
> >> [mode=node,language=dflt,script=arab,
> >> init=yes,
> >> medi=yes,
> >> fina=yes,
> >> isol=yes,
> >> calt=yes,
> >> rlig=yes,
> >> tlig=yes,
> >> trep=yes,
> >> curs=yes,
> >> kern=yes,
> >> mark=yes
> >> ]
> >>
> >> \starttypescript [serif] [notonaskharabic]
> >> \definefontsynonym [notonaskharabic-Light] [name:notonaskharabic]
> >> [features=fea]
> >> \definefontsynonym [notonaskharabic-Bold] [name:notonaskharabic]
> >> [features=fea]
> >> \definefontsynonym [notonaskharabic-Italic] [name:notonaskharabic]
> >> [features=fea]
> >> \definefontsynonym [notonaskharabic-Bold-Italic] [name:notonaskharabic]
> >> [features=fea]
> >> \stoptypescript
> >>
> >> \starttypescript [serif] [notonaskharabic]
> >> \usetypescript[serif][fallback]
> >> \definefontsynonym [Serif] [notonaskharabic-Light] [features=fea]
> >> \definefontsynonym [SerifItalic] [notonaskharabic-Italic] [features=fea]
&g
[NTG-context] Re: [ how to force hyphenation all words ]
On Thu, 16 Nov 2023 21:40:08 +0100
vm via ntg-context wrote:
> Is there a command in context to force every word in a text to
> hyphenate? e.g to typeset a text with "ge-dach-ten-streep-jes"
Like this?
\starttext
\hyphenatedword{\samplefile{knuth}}
\stoptext
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[NTG-context] Re: context not producing synctex output that my synctex program can use
Henning and Hans, thanks for the replies. I have two follow-up questions below, as well as some other comments which other synctex users might find useful. On Sun, Nov 12, 2023 at 10:26 (+0100), Henning Hraban Ramm wrote: > Am 12.11.23 um 00:59 schrieb Jim: >> Hi, >> I've read the wiki, looked at workflows-synctex.tex, searched the web, and >> scratched my head, all to no avail. So here I am, cap in hand... >> When I run context, I get a .synctex file which has some information in it, >> but I can't find any invocation of synctex to return anything useful. Nor >> does the okular example in the wiki (https://wiki.contextgarden.net/SyncTeX) >> work for me. Ocular starts, but always on the first page, regardless of >> what line number I give it. >> On the other hand, pdftex creates a .synctex file which my copy of synctex >> find useful. >> I am using the synctex from the current version of texlive: >> This is SyncTeX command line utility, version 1.5 >> Can anyone either >> (a) enlighten me on what I am doing wrong; or >> (b) definitively confirm that context is not currently playing nicely with >> synctex (the wiki notwithstanding) and I should give up this quest for >> now. > ConTeXt doesn’t work with the synctex binary, but with > mtxrun --script synctex Thanks for that pointer. Q1: Should that be in the wiki (https://wiki.contextgarden.net/SyncTeX) somewhere? When I try that out, for example with mtxrun --script synctex --edit --name=a.tex --line=222 a.tex I am rewarded with sandbox | variable 'linenumber' has no checker (I tried various variations on that line I won't bore you with, but I keep getting that error message.) I also tried mtxrun --script synctex --goto --page=4 --x=100 --y=100 a.synctex and that silently returns without apparently doing anything. (While I don't have a 'scite' editor, I created a program called 'scite' that pops a message up on the screen if it is called.) Similar to --edit, mtxrun --script synctex --goto --page=19 --x=400 --y=180 --tolerance=99 --editor=scite a.synctex complains sandbox | variable 'tolerance' has no checker Although I don't know lua, the code is easy enough to read, but a short dive in to mtx-synctex.lua did not enlighten me. Q2: any enlightening comments on why I am getting these complaints. In any case, --find and --report (appear to) give meaningful results, so I can work with those. > Unfortunately, it’s not a drop-in replacement, so it doesn’t work with most > editors. (I was thinking about a translating wrapper script, but didn’t do > anything yet.) So much code to write, so little time ...:-) My immediate concern is forward search (i.e., editor tells viewer which page to display) and that one should be easy for me to create a wrapper. (I use emacs + auctex, which calls the synctex program, so writing my own synctex wrapper looks easy. Hopefully I won't regret using the word "easy" later.) > AFAIK TeXshop (MacOS) is the only TeX editor that supports ConTeXt’s > workflow. I've been thinking of patching some of evince's more annoying features, if I do, maybe I should look into making it work with context. > ConTeXt’s synctex format is much simpler than the “standard” LaTeX one and > should be at least as good, but alas it needs support from the editors. Indeed! On Sun, Nov 12, 2023 at 12:00 (+0100), Hans Hagen wrote: > On 11/12/2023 10:26 AM, Henning Hraban Ramm wrote: >> Am 12.11.23 um 00:59 schrieb Jim: >>> Hi, >>> >> ConTeXt doesn’t work with the synctex binary, but with >> mtxrun --script synctex > afaik there is no binary ... there is a library that has to be compiled into > a pdf viewer that intercept some 'goto the text file' command and then > launches an editor (afik the library has some heuristics build in wrt boxes > and nesting and so); at the tex end there is also a library that kicks in > addiional code for nodes and the backend (which is why enabling synctex will > have an impact on runtime) > wrt the synctex file, that one is generated by context (so we don't use the > synctex code in luatex and as luametatex has no backend there it's even > completely absent ... context generates the file itself which is also a bit > more efficient) >> Unfortunately, it’s not a drop-in replacement, so it doesn’t work with >> most editors. (I was thinking about a translating wrapper script, but >> didn’t do anything yet.) >> AFAIK TeXshop (MacOS) is the only TeX editor that supports ConTeXt’s >> workflow. > indeed texshop uses the approach that avoids the library and just calls > mtxrun to figure out the file/line that relates to the position; this is > more reliable because there is no need to re
[NTG-context] Re: checkbox in fields show the word yes
Hi,
three years later I would like to hint to this thread again and ask if
there is hope that checkboxes will work better in Acrobat any time soon.
Am Fri, Dec 11, 2020 at 06:28:36PM +0100 schrieb Hans Hagen:
> On 12/11/2020 6:13 PM, Andres Conrado Montoya wrote:
> > Firefox doesn't show the "yes", nor Acrobat X, but SumatraPDF does. I
> > modified your definition as:
> >
> > \definefield[test][check][cbox][][]
> >
> > And now the "yes" doesn't appear. However, I don't know how this affects
> > the functionality of the form.
> these symbols (esp how deafults are handles) has alwaye been a bit of a mess
> in acrobat (read: different per version) and relates to appearance streams
> and such (when a form is made in acrobat these streams get added, it could
> even be some dingbat kicking in or being vectorized or ... seen all kind of
> variants) ... officially a rendering should listen to some keys that relate
> to it but this is not always the case
>
> (part of the problem is, i think, that esp for check fields a bugs or
> behaviour has become a feature which makes it kin dof inconsisten twith the
> rest of the widgets .. it's even worse when one uses parent / child across
> pages ... it hasn;t helped that hardly any viewer supported it which in turn
> means no feedback)
>
> (in lmtx iu could probably generate appearance streams but i'll only do that
> when i have an application for these widgets so that i can test it)
>
> Hans
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[NTG-context] Re: Toggling the symbol for the zero-width joiner and related Unicode control characters
-- Original Message -- From "Hans Hagen via ntg-context" mailto:ntg-context@ntg.nl>> To "ntg-context@ntg.nl<mailto:ntg-context@ntg.nl>" mailto:ntg-context@ntg.nl>> Cc "Hans Hagen" mailto:j.ha...@freedom.nl>> Date 9/22/2023 10:44:38 AM Subject [NTG-context] Re: Toggling the symbol for the zero-width joiner and related Unicode control characters (It seems he never considered making it an opentype feature in the font itself, but since his focus is/was XeTeX/HB (HB is rather rigid and dictatorial) I guess that's not surprising.) I admit that I don't follow what happens with xetex (they changed the rendere at some point indeed) not HB (I only notice that it gets updates frequently in the tex live repository which makes me wonder how one retains compatility unless one freezes). I actually kept the lib binding code that can use it around for your font testing (we wanted to see what uniscribe does), not sure if it still works. I remember the experimental uniscribe binding, don't recall that it was ever officially released. (Did Kai Bormann ever work with it?). I hope that it still works or can be resurrected when the time comes for testing -) Anyway, we're entering the bug cq. side effect becomes feature area here; just like yesterdays perfect bidi algorithm is todays less pefect one replaced by ... But therein lies the problem: ConTeXt shows the rendering by default, and we need to turn it off. Since most non-Latin typography targets Uniscribe applications which allows for toggling, the font developers (commercial or free) don't have to concern themselves with this issue. if context shows it then it is not a feature but hard coded shapes which is weird; how does one know what to 'remove' or not? And in what stage? If they are zero width it is simple to ignore them in the backend, if they have dimensions (w/h/d) then they contributed and wiping is tricky The metrics should be dimensionless and most Arabic fonts do that, but Lotus Linotype gives them width (one wonders why). Perhaps the Lotus designers thought that giving them width makes them easier to edit, which is indeed the case. And perhaps they were satisfied that Word/InDesign would be able, as needed, to toggle the metrics on and off as well as the shape. That WYSIWYG-DTP curse again.. \setcharacterstripping[1] gives the right results with Lotus (at least so far) -- see attached. Was pleasantly surprised that the spurious width was also suppressed. \setcharacterstripping[0] toggles back -- another pleasant result -) Since Word rules the world, most font designers target it. Since Word provides for toggling the symbols -- needed for editing purposes -- there was no need for Arabic-script font designers to worry about the symbols showing up where they are not wanted. (I suppose that InDesign behaves the same way.) I don't know ... irr these dtp programs are more like "if you want this feature applied select a range of characters and apply it" That's what was meant when I spoke of the continued effects of the WYSIWYG curse: It saved font designers from having to think much about this issue. In some way it's also flaws in the open type approach. Basically that happens when application stuff becomes a standard and one forgets that it was (is) application driven. (And you haven't seen variable fonts and color fonts yet ... no pretty standards either.) I'm in the process of switching from Multiple Masters sources to variable, so will surely encounter it soon. Unfortunately there is indeed a frustrating gray area in this arena between knowing where the standards end and where the diktats of corporations (or even free-software consortiums like HB) begin, as we've discussed in the past. With variable fonts, one has to add some degree of arbitrariness.. Not really -) This brings us to the point of consistency: For Arabic-script fonts, hard symbolic rendering of the Unicode control characters is the rule, not the exception. So not "an inconsistent mess" -- at least not as far as Arabic-script typography is concerned. Funny rules ... but I'm not going top enable 'wipe' by default: after all, one gets what one deserves, nto what one likes (which can differ per day). But you can enable the wiping. We can of course ignore in the backend when zero width but then how to explain that they contributed to the ht/dp (unless we wipe these dimensions) ... all slow-downers So far \setcharacterstripping[1] is giving the right results. If the relevant trackers are available, could add them to the attached test. But presumably you know how and why it works even for a non-dimensionless glyph. so you want to see soem zwj sumbol in a rendered text? Only in verbatim/\type'd text where it is appropriate, even necessary. Thanks to Word/WYSIWYG, the rule is de facto, but it is not de jure -) Ideally, Scintilla (Scite, Notepad++, etc.) should do the same
[NTG-context] Re: Toggling the symbol for the zero-width joiner and related Unicode control characters
On 9/22/2023 3:51 PM, Hamid,Idris wrote: -- Original Message -- From "Hans Hagen" mailto:j.ha...@xs4all.nl>> To "ntg-context@ntg.nl<mailto:ntg-context@ntg.nl>" mailto:ntg-context@ntg.nl>> Date 9/22/2023 7:15:25 AM Subject [NTG-context] Re: Toggling the symbol for the zero-width joiner and related Unicode control characters ** Caution: EXTERNAL Sender ** On 9/22/2023 2:39 PM, Hamid,Idris wrote: b. we want all Unicode control symbols to be suppressed in final pdf output (for, e.g., printing). they basically are unless some font features keeps them around which is out of our control irr it was you who wanted them to be wiped decades ago as some fonts visualized them by default Yes, that's exactly the point: Somewhere along the course of history, it became standard for Arabic-script fonts (and other cursive-script fonts as well) to include symbols for the control characters. In typo-rep there is also %D \starttyping %D \definefontfeature[default][default][mode=node,formatters=strip] %D \stoptyping You included some notes about Khaled, so I guess he faced the same issue. His Amiri font displays the symbols by default, as do other Arabic fonts. (It seems he never considered making it an opentype feature in the font itself, but since his focus is/was XeTeX/HB (HB is rather rigid and dictatorial) I guess that's not surprising.) I admit that I don't follow what happens with xetex (they changed the rendere at some point indeed) not HB (I only notice that it gets updates frequently in the tex live repository which makes me wonder how one retains compatility unless one freezes). I actually kept the lib binding code that can use it around for your font testing (we wanted to see what uniscribe does), not sure if it still works. Anyway, we're entering the bug cq. side effect becomes feature area here; just like yesterdays perfect bidi algorithm is todays less pefect one replaced by ... But therein lies the problem: ConTeXt shows the rendering by default, and we need to turn it off. Since most non-Latin typography targets Uniscribe applications which allows for toggling, the font developers (commercial or free) don't have to concern themselves with this issue. if context shows it then it is not a feature but hard coded shapes which is weird; how does one know what to 'remove' or not? And in what stage? If they are zero width it is simple to ignore them in the backend, if they have dimensions (w/h/d) then they contributed and wiping is tricky Since Word rules the world, most font designers target it. Since Word provides for toggling the symbols -- needed for editing purposes -- there was no need for Arabic-script font designers to worry about the symbols showing up where they are not wanted. (I suppose that InDesign behaves the same way.) I don't know ... irr these dtp programs are more like "if you want this feature applied select a range of characters and apply it" That's what was meant when I spoke of the continued effects of the WYSIWYG curse: It saved font designers from having to think much about this issue. In some way it's also flaws in the open type approach. Basically that happens when application stuff becomes a standard and one forgets that it was (is) application driven. (And you haven't seen variable fonts and color fonts yet ... no pretty standards either.) Not really -) This brings us to the point of consistency: For Arabic-script fonts, hard symbolic rendering of the Unicode control characters is the rule, not the exception. So not "an inconsistent mess" -- at least not as far as Arabic-script typography is concerned. Funny rules ... but I'm not going top enable 'wipe' by default: after all, one gets what one deserves, nto what one likes (which can differ per day). But you can enable the wiping. We can of course ignore in the backend when zero width but then how to explain that they contributed to the ht/dp (unless we wipe these dimensions) ... all slow-downers so you want to see soem zwj sumbol in a rendered text? Only in verbatim/\type'd text where it is appropriate, even necessary. Thanks to Word/WYSIWYG, the rule is de facto, but it is not de jure -) Ideally, Scintilla (Scite, Notepad++, etc.) should do the same, or provide a toggle, as MS Notepad does. (Tangent: In terms of Unicode functionality, MS Notepad is still unrivalled, even in 2023!) We agree that for final printed output it is not appropriate (except perhaps in a paper that discusses Unicode, fonts, etc., in which case it can be rendered using the figures or symbols mechanism -- or toggled as needed.) so what is it now: - for verbatim you can use almfixed and they show up (when they have a glyph) - for other fonts if they have them they show up (unless gone in the process ot rendering) - but you
[NTG-context] Re: Toggling the symbol for the zero-width joiner and related Unicode control characters
-- Original Message -- From "Hans Hagen" mailto:j.ha...@xs4all.nl>> To "ntg-context@ntg.nl<mailto:ntg-context@ntg.nl>" mailto:ntg-context@ntg.nl>> Date 9/22/2023 7:15:25 AM Subject [NTG-context] Re: Toggling the symbol for the zero-width joiner and related Unicode control characters ** Caution: EXTERNAL Sender ** On 9/22/2023 2:39 PM, Hamid,Idris wrote: b. we want all Unicode control symbols to be suppressed in final pdf output (for, e.g., printing). they basically are unless some font features keeps them around which is out of our control irr it was you who wanted them to be wiped decades ago as some fonts visualized them by default Yes, that's exactly the point: Somewhere along the course of history, it became standard for Arabic-script fonts (and other cursive-script fonts as well) to include symbols for the control characters. In typo-rep there is also %D \starttyping %D \definefontfeature[default][default][mode=node,formatters=strip] %D \stoptyping You included some notes about Khaled, so I guess he faced the same issue. His Amiri font displays the symbols by default, as do other Arabic fonts. (It seems he never considered making it an opentype feature in the font itself, but since his focus is/was XeTeX/HB (HB is rather rigid and dictatorial) I guess that's not surprising.) But therein lies the problem: ConTeXt shows the rendering by default, and we need to turn it off. Since most non-Latin typography targets Uniscribe applications which allows for toggling, the font developers (commercial or free) don't have to concern themselves with this issue. ? Since Word rules the world, most font designers target it. Since Word provides for toggling the symbols -- needed for editing purposes -- there was no need for Arabic-script font designers to worry about the symbols showing up where they are not wanted. (I suppose that InDesign behaves the same way.) That's what was meant when I spoke of the continued effects of the WYSIWYG curse: It saved font designers from having to think much about this issue. Not really -) This brings us to the point of consistency: For Arabic-script fonts, hard symbolic rendering of the Unicode control characters is the rule, not the exception. So not "an inconsistent mess" -- at least not as far as Arabic-script typography is concerned. so you want to see soem zwj sumbol in a rendered text? Only in verbatim/\type'd text where it is appropriate, even necessary. Thanks to Word/WYSIWYG, the rule is de facto, but it is not de jure -) Ideally, Scintilla (Scite, Notepad++, etc.) should do the same, or provide a toggle, as MS Notepad does. (Tangent: In terms of Unicode functionality, MS Notepad is still unrivalled, even in 2023!) We agree that for final printed output it is not appropriate (except perhaps in a paper that discusses Unicode, fonts, etc., in which case it can be rendered using the figures or symbols mechanism -- or toggled as needed.) I hope the above made sense. Best wishes -- Idris Samawi Hamid, Professor Department of Philosophy Colorado State University Fort Collins, CO 80523 ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : https://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Re: Toggling the symbol for the zero-width joiner and related Unicode control characters
-- Original Message -- From "Hans Hagen via ntg-context" mailto:ntg-context@ntg.nl>> To "ntg-context@ntg.nl<mailto:ntg-context@ntg.nl>" mailto:ntg-context@ntg.nl>> Cc "Hans Hagen" mailto:j.ha...@freedom.nl>> Date 9/22/2023 3:53:03 AM Subject [NTG-context] Re: Toggling the symbol for the zero-width joiner and related Unicode control characters 1. Can this approach be generalized to get what we want, viz., a way to toggle the symbols? given the inconsistency in what is or is not in a font the only way out is to have our own visualization (consistent across fonts) and even then it would add some mess because we're talking of a mix of characters that can have gone (as part of rendering) or are not characters at all but spacing so, in that case only 'verbatim' is a candidate for visualization, not so much typeset text Hm, ok. Since almfixed is based on Knuth's mono, perhaps its visuals of the control characters can be extracted and used as fallback symbols. Yes: For typeset text/printing visualization is generally unnecessary (the point of this thread). 2. \enabletrackers[typesetters.nbsp] gives a colored box, which is at least something.. But how can we get the NBSP symbol that's alerady in the font? it's gone by that time ... the line break mmechanism uses glue, not characters Ok 3. Ideally: a. we want all Unicode control symbols to show up in verbatim or in \typebuffer (as in a text editor); only there (with some non interfering rendering i guess) and even then it's probably an additonal pass over the node list Ok, that would be good. b. we want all Unicode control symbols to be suppressed in final pdf output (for, e.g., printing). they basically are unless some font features keeps them around which is out of our control If the symbols are in the font, then they are not suppressed. See below. But some fonts meant for printing have symbols for Unicode control chars -- that poses a challenge. so an inconsistent mess not worth wasting time on (as this is hobbyism only fun can be a motivational factir) But there is a certain consistency -- see below. And some fonts meant for verbatim/editing do not have symbols for the control chars -- that also poses a challenge. AlmFixed, of course, has them. Most minimally decent Arabic fonts have symbols for the Unicode control chars as default, including Scheherazade, Amiri, Uthmanic, and Noto Naskh Arabic -- all free fonts. Industry workhorses like Linotype Lotus (Arabic) also have them. i'm not interested in those .. can't afford them for playing around purposes .. we only look into commercial fonts if we get a dozen unresticted copies for context developers Except for Linotype Lotus, each of the Arabic-script fonts mentioned above is free, not commercial -) (There is also a free version of Lotus -- it also has the symbolic rendering of the contol chars.) Uniscribe applications like Notepad/Word allow for toggling in a WYSIWYG context -- can't speak for HarfBuzz -- so there is no harm in having explicit symbols in the font. sure, as long as there is no rendering ... they show the input But therein lies the problem: ConTeXt shows the rendering by default, and we need to turn it off. Since most non-Latin typography targets Uniscribe applications which allows for toggling, the font developers (commercial or free) don't have to concern themselves with this issue. Yet another curse of the WYSIWYG paradigm, which mixes form and content -) The upshot is that, for non-Latin scripts, some toggling capability in ConTeXt is important to have -- even inescapable for Arabic-script piblishing. a bit subjectiev arguing -) Not really -) This brings us to the point of consistency: For Arabic-script fonts, hard symbolic rendering of the Unicode control characters is the rule, not the exception. So not "an inconsistent mess" -- at least not as far as Arabic-script typography is concerned. (Yes, for the upcoming Husayni I can add a font feature that does the trick, but that will be an exception to the rule.) Perhaps others who use Arabic-script or Indic, etc., can chime in.. Am hopeful that we can figure something out! sore, but not with 'instant priority' (unless it is some project) My immediate project (no Husayni) is a book that features English translation of an Arabic text (hence the interest in the recent streams thread). Using some Unicode control characters will be unavoidable to get the rendering effects correct, but the symbols will need to be suppressed. Am thinking/hoping that a ConTeXt-specific font feature can do the trick. Since there appears to be consistency across Arabic fonts in this matter it should not be messy at all, simply a fallback that sends the symbols to some no-man's land. (A thought: Some of the code you kindly provided for transliteration might be reusable as well.. But a general solution for all ConTeXt users woul
[NTG-context] Re: Toggling the symbol for the zero-width joiner and related Unicode control characters
On 9/22/2023 6:16 AM, Hamid,Idris wrote: -- Original Message -- From "Hans Hagen" mailto:j.ha...@xs4all.nl>> To "Hamid,Idris" mailto:idris.ha...@colostate.edu>>; "mailing list for ConTeXt users" mailto:ntg-context@ntg.nl>> Date 9/21/2023 3:29:22 PM Subject Re: [NTG-context] Re: Toggling the symbol for the zero-width joiner and related Unicode control characters Many thanks, Hans. The method appears to work only for nbsp, not zwj etc. Here is the updated MWE: === \startTEXpage[offset=1em] \disabletrackers[typesetters.directions] \disabletrackers[typesetters.zwj] \disabletrackers[typesetters.zwnj] \disabletrackers[typesetters.nbsp] \definedfont[almfixed at 14pt] ZWJ: ZWNJ: NBSP: \stopTEXpage === See attached, please advise. joiners are part of replacement etc and can come and go ... they are characters (we could visualize them but one never knows for sure if one sees them) nbsp are spaces and become glue that we can trace reliable in the node list Many thanks. Ok, here is another MWE featuring a workaround using fallbacks: == \definefontfallback[nosymbols] [file:lmmono10-regular] [200C,200D] [force=yes] \starttypescript [serif] [alm] [name] \definefontsynonym [Serif] [ArabicLatinSerif] \stoptypescript \starttypescript [mono] [alm] [name] \definefontsynonym [Mono] [ArabicLatinMono] \stoptypescript \starttypescript [serif] [alm] \definefontsynonym [ArabicLatinSerif] [file:almfixed] % [fallbacks=nosymbols] \stoptypescript \starttypescript [mono] [alm] \definefontsynonym [ArabicLatinMono] [file:almfixed] [fallbacks=nosymbols] \stoptypescript \starttypescript [almfixed-nosymbols] \definetypeface [\typescriptone] [rm] [serif] [alm] [default] \definetypeface [\typescriptone] [tt] [mono] [alm] [default] \stoptypescript \usetypescript[almfixed-nosymbols] \setupbodyfont[almfixed-nosymbols,12pt] \startTEXpage[offset=1em] \rm ZWJ: ZWNJ: NBSP: \tt ZWJ: ZWNJ: NBSP: \stopTEXpage == Under \rm we get the symbols, and under \tt they are suppressed. Of course it doesn't matter what fallback font one uses, as long as it has no control-character symbols. 1. Can this approach be generalized to get what we want, viz., a way to toggle the symbols? given the inconsistency in what is or is not in a font the only way out is to have our own visualization (consistent across fonts) and even then it would add some mess because we're talking of a mix of characters that can have gone (as part of rendering) or are not characters at all but spacing so, in that case only 'verbatim' is a candidate for visualization, not so much typeset text 2. \enabletrackers[typesetters.nbsp] gives a colored box, which is at least something.. But how can we get the NBSP symbol that's alerady in the font? it's gone by that time ... the line break mmechanism uses glue, not characters 3. Ideally: a. we want all Unicode control symbols to show up in verbatim or in \typebuffer (as in a text editor); only there (with some non interfering rendering i guess) and even then it's probably an additonal pass over the node list b. we want all Unicode control symbols to be suppressed in final pdf output (for, e.g., printing). they basically are unless some font features keeps them around which is out of our control But some fonts meant for printing have symbols for Unicode control chars -- that poses a challenge. so an inconsistent mess not worth wasting time on (as this is hobbyism only fun can be a motivational factir) And some fonts meant for verbatim/editing do not have symbols for the control chars -- that also poses a challenge. AlmFixed, of course, has them. Most minimally decent Arabic fonts have symbols for the Unicode control chars as default, including Scheherazade, Amiri, Uthmanic, and Noto Naskh Arabic -- all free fonts. Industry workhorses like Linotype Lotus (Arabic) also have them. i'm not interested in those .. can't afford them for playing around purposes .. we only look into commercial fonts if we get a dozen unresticted copies for context developers Uniscribe applications like Notepad/Word allow for toggling in a WYSIWYG context -- can't speak for HarfBuzz -- so there is no harm in having explicit symbols in the font. sure, as long as there is no rendering ... they show the input The upshot is that, for non-Latin scripts, some toggling capability in ConTeXt is important to have -- even inescapable for Arabic-script piblishing. a bit subjectiev arguing -) Perhaps others who use Arabic-script or Indic, etc., can chime in.. Am hopeful that we can figure something out! sore, but not with 'instant priority' (unless it is some project) Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 4
[NTG-context] Re: Toggling the symbol for the zero-width joiner and related Unicode control characters
-- Original Message -- From "Hans Hagen" mailto:j.ha...@xs4all.nl>> To "Hamid,Idris" mailto:idris.ha...@colostate.edu>>; "mailing list for ConTeXt users" mailto:ntg-context@ntg.nl>> Date 9/21/2023 3:29:22 PM Subject Re: [NTG-context] Re: Toggling the symbol for the zero-width joiner and related Unicode control characters Many thanks, Hans. The method appears to work only for nbsp, not zwj etc. Here is the updated MWE: === \startTEXpage[offset=1em] \disabletrackers[typesetters.directions] \disabletrackers[typesetters.zwj] \disabletrackers[typesetters.zwnj] \disabletrackers[typesetters.nbsp] \definedfont[almfixed at 14pt] ZWJ: ZWNJ: NBSP: \stopTEXpage === See attached, please advise. joiners are part of replacement etc and can come and go ... they are characters (we could visualize them but one never knows for sure if one sees them) nbsp are spaces and become glue that we can trace reliable in the node list Many thanks. Ok, here is another MWE featuring a workaround using fallbacks: == \definefontfallback[nosymbols] [file:lmmono10-regular] [200C,200D] [force=yes] \starttypescript [serif] [alm] [name] \definefontsynonym [Serif] [ArabicLatinSerif] \stoptypescript \starttypescript [mono] [alm] [name] \definefontsynonym [Mono] [ArabicLatinMono] \stoptypescript \starttypescript [serif] [alm] \definefontsynonym [ArabicLatinSerif] [file:almfixed] % [fallbacks=nosymbols] \stoptypescript \starttypescript [mono] [alm] \definefontsynonym [ArabicLatinMono] [file:almfixed] [fallbacks=nosymbols] \stoptypescript \starttypescript [almfixed-nosymbols] \definetypeface [\typescriptone] [rm] [serif] [alm] [default] \definetypeface [\typescriptone] [tt] [mono] [alm] [default] \stoptypescript \usetypescript[almfixed-nosymbols] \setupbodyfont[almfixed-nosymbols,12pt] \startTEXpage[offset=1em] \rm ZWJ: ZWNJ: NBSP: \tt ZWJ: ZWNJ: NBSP: \stopTEXpage == Under \rm we get the symbols, and under \tt they are suppressed. Of course it doesn't matter what fallback font one uses, as long as it has no control-character symbols. 1. Can this approach be generalized to get what we want, viz., a way to toggle the symbols? 2. \enabletrackers[typesetters.nbsp] gives a colored box, which is at least something.. But how can we get the NBSP symbol that's alerady in the font? 3. Ideally: a. we want all Unicode control symbols to show up in verbatim or in \typebuffer (as in a text editor); b. we want all Unicode control symbols to be suppressed in final pdf output (for, e.g., printing). But some fonts meant for printing have symbols for Unicode control chars -- that poses a challenge. And some fonts meant for verbatim/editing do not have symbols for the control chars -- that also poses a challenge. AlmFixed, of course, has them. Most minimally decent Arabic fonts have symbols for the Unicode control chars as default, including Scheherazade, Amiri, Uthmanic, and Noto Naskh Arabic -- all free fonts. Industry workhorses like Linotype Lotus (Arabic) also have them. Uniscribe applications like Notepad/Word allow for toggling in a WYSIWYG context -- can't speak for HarfBuzz -- so there is no harm in having explicit symbols in the font. The upshot is that, for non-Latin scripts, some toggling capability in ConTeXt is important to have -- even inescapable for Arabic-script piblishing. Perhaps others who use Arabic-script or Indic, etc., can chime in.. Am hopeful that we can figure something out! Best wishes Idris -- Idris Samawi Hamid, Professor Department of Philosophy Colorado State University Fort Collins, CO 80523 ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : https://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Re: XML: flush to lua function
Hi,
xml.text(t) is safer than directly accessing t.dt[1].
Note: you may need to strip some XML tags from that content.
If the element is not straight-up data but has nested elements, then this will
return the full xml representation instead:
A short title=> ‘A short title'
A short title=> ‘'
A short title => 'A short
title'
Best wishes,
Taco
> On 12 Sep 2023, at 08:56, wrote:
>
> Ok, I’ve found a way, see below.
> But maybe someone has some nice lua (or other) tricks to share… (I’m not sure
> accessing t.dt[1] is particularly safe when operating on nested structures.)
> Best,
> Denis
> \startbuffer[test]
>
>
>
> A short title
> asdf asdf asdf jklö jklö jklö
>
>
> A longer title bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla
>
> asdf asdf asdf jklö jklö jklö
>
>
>
> \stopbuffer
> \startxmlsetups xml:test
> \xmlsetsetup{#1}{*}{-}
> \xmlsetsetup{#1}{doc|chapter|p}{xml:*}
> \stopxmlsetups
> \xmlregisterdocumentsetup{test}{xml:test}
> \startxmlsetups xml:doc
>\xmlflush{#1}
> \stopxmlsetups
> \setuphead[chapter][expansion=yes] % make sure the stuff gets expanded on
> time
> \startxmlsetups xml:chapter
> \startchapter
>[
>
> title={\xmlfilter{#1}{/title/command(xml:chapter:title)}},
>
> marking={\xmlfilter{#1}{/title/command(xml:chapter:title:marking)}},
>]
>\xmlflush{#1}
> \stopchapter
> \stopxmlsetups
> \startxmlsetups xml:p
> \xmlflush{#1}\par
> \stopxmlsetups
> \startluacode
> function xml.functions.getMarking(t)
> _,n = t.dt[1]:gsub("%S+","")
> if n > 10 then local words = {}
> for word in t.dt[1]:gmatch("%S+") do table.insert(words, word) end
> local resWords = {}
> resWords = { unpack( words, 1, 7 ) }
> res = table.concat(resWords, " ") .. " …"
> else res = t.dt[1]
> end
> context(res)
> end
> \stopluacode
> \startxmlsetups xml:chapter:title:marking
> \xmlfunction{#1}{getMarking}
> \stopxmlsetups
> \startxmlsetups xml:chapter:title
> \xmlflush{#1}
> \stopxmlsetups
> \setupheadertexts[chapter]
> \starttext
> \xmlprocessbuffer{test}{test}{}
> \stoptext
> Von: denis.ma...@unibe.ch
> Gesendet: Montag, 11. September 2023 16:47
> An: ntg-context@ntg.nl
> Betreff: [NTG-context] XML: flush to lua function
> Hi,
> I have the following xml setup with a lua function:
> \startluacode
> function markingLength(s)
> _,n = s:gsub("%S+","")
> if n > 3 then context("yes" .. " …") else
> context("no") end
> end
> \stopluacode
> \startxmlsetups xml:ink:ink-title:marking
> %\ctxlua{markingLength(\xmlflush{#1})} % does not work
> \ctxlua{markingLength{"1 2 3 4"}}
> \stopxmlsetups
> While the function works, I cannot use xmlflush here. How can I properly
> pass the xml content to the lua function?
> Best,
> Denis
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[NTG-context] Re: XML: flush to lua function
Ok, I've found a way, see below.
But maybe someone has some nice lua (or other) tricks to share... (I'm not sure
accessing t.dt[1] is particularly safe when operating on nested structures.)
Best,
Denis
\startbuffer[test]
A short title
asdf asdf asdf jklö jklö jklö
A longer title bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla
asdf asdf asdf jklö jklö jklö
\stopbuffer
\startxmlsetups xml:test
\xmlsetsetup{#1}{*}{-}
\xmlsetsetup{#1}{doc|chapter|p}{xml:*}
\stopxmlsetups
\xmlregisterdocumentsetup{test}{xml:test}
\startxmlsetups xml:doc
\xmlflush{#1}
\stopxmlsetups
\setuphead[chapter][expansion=yes] % make sure the stuff gets expanded on time
\startxmlsetups xml:chapter
\startchapter
[
title={\xmlfilter{#1}{/title/command(xml:chapter:title)}},
marking={\xmlfilter{#1}{/title/command(xml:chapter:title:marking)}},
]
\xmlflush{#1}
\stopchapter
\stopxmlsetups
\startxmlsetups xml:p
\xmlflush{#1}\par
\stopxmlsetups
\startluacode
function xml.functions.getMarking(t)
_,n = t.dt[1]:gsub("%S+","")
if n > 10 then
local words = {}
for word in t.dt[1]:gmatch("%S+") do table.insert(words,
word) end
local resWords = {}
resWords = { unpack( words, 1, 7 ) }
res = table.concat(resWords, " ") .. " ..."
else
res = t.dt[1]
end
context(res)
end
\stopluacode
\startxmlsetups xml:chapter:title:marking
\xmlfunction{#1}{getMarking}
\stopxmlsetups
\startxmlsetups xml:chapter:title
\xmlflush{#1}
\stopxmlsetups
\setupheadertexts[chapter]
\starttext
\xmlprocessbuffer{test}{test}{}
\stoptext
Von: denis.ma...@unibe.ch
Gesendet: Montag, 11. September 2023 16:47
An: ntg-context@ntg.nl
Betreff: [NTG-context] XML: flush to lua function
Hi,
I have the following xml setup with a lua function:
\startluacode
function markingLength(s)
_,n = s:gsub("%S+","")
if n > 3 then
context("yes" .. " ...") else context("no") end
end
\stopluacode
\startxmlsetups xml:ink:ink-title:marking
%\ctxlua{markingLength(\xmlflush{#1})} % does not work
\ctxlua{markingLength{"1 2 3 4"}}
\stopxmlsetups
While the function works, I cannot use xmlflush here. How can I properly pass
the xml content to the lua function?
Best,
Denis
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[NTG-context] Re: Trimming (rearranging) long section name
Lukas via ntg-context schrieb am 04.09.2023 um 13:33:
Hello,
just
"
\setuphead[section][distance=1.25em]
\setuphead[section][style=\bfc]
"
Lukas
On 2023-09-04 11:25, Henning Hraban Ramm wrote:
Am 04.09.23 um 13:06 schrieb Lukas via ntg-context:
IOW to force the word "stavby" not to cross the right border (see the
green vertical line) but to appear on the next line?
I played with "strict", "verytolerant" and similar options but they
seem
not to affect section titles.
What’s your section setup, esp. the align settings?
Please try to provide a *working* minimal example the next time,
otherwise we have
to fill the missing parts (\starttext ... \stoptext).
\mainlanguage[cz]
\setuphead
[section]
[distance=1.25em,
style=\bfc,
align={flushleft,broad,nothyphenated}]
\setupbodyfont[8pt]
\starttext
\chapter{Dummy}
\samplefile{lorem}
\section{Specifické požadavky pro předpokládanou technologii stavby
(přístupy, přívody el. energie, skladovací plochy, montážní a pomocné
plochy, montážní a pomocné konstrukce, ...)}
\stoptext
Wolfgang
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[NTG-context] Re: Trimming (rearranging) long section name
Hello, just " \setuphead[section][distance=1.25em] \setuphead[section][style=\bfc] " Lukas On 2023-09-04 11:25, Henning Hraban Ramm wrote: Am 04.09.23 um 13:06 schrieb Lukas via ntg-context: IOW to force the word "stavby" not to cross the right border (see the green vertical line) but to appear on the next line? I played with "strict", "verytolerant" and similar options but they seem not to affect section titles. What’s your section setup, esp. the align settings? Hraban ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : https://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Re: Trimming (rearranging) long section name
Am 04.09.23 um 13:06 schrieb Lukas via ntg-context: IOW to force the word "stavby" not to cross the right border (see the green vertical line) but to appear on the next line? I played with "strict", "verytolerant" and similar options but they seem not to affect section titles. What’s your section setup, esp. the align settings? Hraban ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : https://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Trimming (rearranging) long section name
Hello, is there a way to alter the section name to be " Specifické požadavky pro předpokládanou technologii stavby (přístupy, přívody el. energie, skladovací plochy, montážní a pomocné plochy, montážní a pomocné konstrukce, ...) " instead of " Specifické požadavky pro předpokládanou technologii stavby (přístupy, přívody el. energie, skladovací plochy, mon- tážní a pomocné plochy, montážní a pomocné konstrukce, ...) " IOW to force the word "stavby" not to cross the right border (see the green vertical line) but to appear on the next line? I played with "strict", "verytolerant" and similar options but they seem not to affect section titles. (MkIV solution preferably.) Best regards, Lukas___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : https://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Re: XML processing beginner's question
Yes, I have done that. But I don't seem to have the basic context of how
the processing works in order. All I have so far is this as a starting
point:
\startxmlsetups xml:mysetup
\xmlsetsetup{main}{document|element|mdata|tdata|name|date|num|content|shortdescription|p}{xml:*}
\stopxmlsetups
\xmlregistersetup{xml:mysetup}
\startxmlsetups xml:mysetup:document
\xmlflush{#1}
\stopxmlsetups
\startxmlsetups xml:mysetup:element
\xmlflush{#1}
\stopxmlsetups
\startxmlsetups xml:mysetup:mdata
\xmlflush{#1}
\stopxmlsetups
\startxmlsetups xml:mysetup:tdata
\xmlflush{#1}
\stopxmlsetups
\startxmlsetups xml:mysetup:name
\xmlflush
\stopxmlsetups
\startxmlsetups xml:mysetup:num
\xmlflush{#1}
\stopxmlsetups
\startxmlsetups xml:mysetup:content
\xmlflush{#1}
\stopxmlsetups
\startxmlsetups xml:mysetup:shortdescription
\xmlflush{#1}
\stopxmlsetups
\startxmlsetups xml:mysetup:p
\xmlflush{#1}\par
\stopxmlsetups
\starttext
\xmlprocessbuffer {mysetup}{xmlcontent}{}
\stoptext
Am 21.08.2023 um 17:45 schrieb Thomas A. Schmitz:
Have you looked at chapter 3.10 "Testing" of the manual xml-mkiv.pdf?
There are a lot of commands there that should help you, such as
\xmldoiftext {#1} {/mdata/date}
{\bf \xmlflush {#1}}
or \xmldoifelsetext.
There's also \xmlfilter, which you can use to test for the content of
tags. And of course, you can process in Lua and search for strings or
use lpeg. However, your question is a bit vague now. Show us some code
you have and we can take it from there; that's easier than writing the
whole setup for you.
Thomas
On 8/21/23 17:29, Michael Löscher wrote:
Hello list,
having the xml data at the bottom, I would like to process it so that
the result is like this:
---
What it is (e.g. bold formatted)
date: 2023-08-01 (italic)
Description (small font size)
Another text (small font size)
hd1 - Header 1
§ 1 First (A first short description)
AA
BB
§ 2 Second (A second short description)
CC
DD
§ 3 Third (A third short description)
EE
FF
---
How can I process the s differently? The first element
contains a tag and so it differs from the other ones. The
second element's tag contains the word "Header" which makes it
different again. The other elements contain a tag
that they all have in common.
What could be the appropriate xml setups to generate the above output?
Michael
---
xml data:
\startbuffer[xmlcontent]
What it is
2023-08-01
Description
Another text
hd1
Header 1
Text of Header 1
1
First
A first short description
AA
BB
2
Second
A second short description
CC
DD
3
Third
A third short description
EE
FF
\stopbuffer
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[NTG-context] Re: XML processing beginner's question
Have you looked at chapter 3.10 "Testing" of the manual xml-mkiv.pdf?
There are a lot of commands there that should help you, such as
\xmldoiftext {#1} {/mdata/date}
{\bf \xmlflush {#1}}
or \xmldoifelsetext.
There's also \xmlfilter, which you can use to test for the content of
tags. And of course, you can process in Lua and search for strings or
use lpeg. However, your question is a bit vague now. Show us some code
you have and we can take it from there; that's easier than writing the
whole setup for you.
Thomas
On 8/21/23 17:29, Michael Löscher wrote:
Hello list,
having the xml data at the bottom, I would like to process it so that
the result is like this:
---
What it is (e.g. bold formatted)
date: 2023-08-01 (italic)
Description (small font size)
Another text (small font size)
hd1 - Header 1
§ 1 First (A first short description)
AA
BB
§ 2 Second (A second short description)
CC
DD
§ 3 Third (A third short description)
EE
FF
---
How can I process the s differently? The first element contains
a tag and so it differs from the other ones. The second element's
tag contains the word "Header" which makes it different again.
The other elements contain a tag that they all have
in common.
What could be the appropriate xml setups to generate the above output?
Michael
---
xml data:
\startbuffer[xmlcontent]
What it is
2023-08-01
Description
Another text
hd1
Header 1
Text of Header 1
1
First
A first short description
AA
BB
2
Second
A second short description
CC
DD
3
Third
A third short description
EE
FF
\stopbuffer
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[NTG-context] XML processing beginner's question
Hello list, having the xml data at the bottom, I would like to process it so that the result is like this: --- What it is (e.g. bold formatted) date: 2023-08-01 (italic) Description (small font size) Another text (small font size) hd1 - Header 1 § 1 First (A first short description) AA BB § 2 Second (A second short description) CC DD § 3 Third (A third short description) EE FF --- How can I process the s differently? The first element contains a tag and so it differs from the other ones. The second element's tag contains the word "Header" which makes it different again. The other elements contain a tag that they all have in common. What could be the appropriate xml setups to generate the above output? Michael --- xml data: \startbuffer[xmlcontent] What it is 2023-08-01 Description Another text hd1 Header 1 Text of Header 1 1 First A first short description AA BB 2 Second A second short description CC DD 3 Third A third short description EE FF \stopbuffer ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : https://contextgarden.net ___
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> On 18. Aug 2023, at 20:17, Carlos wrote:
>
> On Fri, Aug 18, 2023 at 06:20:29PM +0200, Mikael Sundqvist wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> It is extremely difficult to follow what you write.
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 18, 2023 at 11:43 AM Carlos wrote:
>>>
>>> If I have the following, with these linebreaks as in:
>>>
>>> {\par But a system cannot be successful if it is too strongly
>>> influenced by a single person. {\obeylines Once the initial design is
>>> complete and fairly robust, the real test begins as people
>>> with many different viewpoints undertake their own
>>> experiments.}}
>>
>> Is that the complete document? What do you have in mind with obeying
>> lines in the middle of a paragraph?
>
> it's the only possible way off the top of my head to circumvent body
> font size with a given width, while keeping both: the kern of \TeX\
> and the double spacing that lmtx injects following a sentence,
> within sanity check, hence the nonfrenchspacing
>
> The separation of any of these four components would have hurt T
> E X sig
> nificantly.
> If I had not participated fully in all these activities, literally
> hundreds of improvements would never have been made, because I would
> never have thought of them or perceived why they were important.
> But a system cannot be successful if it is too strongly influenced
> by a single person. Once the initial design is
>
>
>>
>>>
>>> and opted to load another font, other than cmr that is, a \frenchspacing
>>> approach wouldn't be further required
>>
>> cmr? Not used in ConTeXt for a long time. (And what does the changing
>> of font have to do with this?)
>
> latin modern.
>>
>>>
>>> Bear with me here, in the current state, for example, and as long as say
>>>
>>> «…person.␣{\obeylines Once the initial is
>>> complete…» though feasible enough, leaves any prior \␣ at the mercy of
>>> whatever fontsize and/or set width happens to be. And this is just plain
>>> wrong.
>>
>> What?
>>
>>>
>>> Likewise, if a word sequence such as \TeX\ occurs as in {\ss The separation
>>> of any of these four components would have hurt \TeX\ significantly. }
>>
>> Likewise what?
>>
>>>
>>> The next sentence: «If I had not participated…» does not get any
>>> \nofrenchspacing which is equally and doubly problematic. It shows lack of
>>> consistency. And this ought not to be an ‹either› ‹or› scenario. But
>>> rather, an and conjunctional construct. It fails both ways.
>>
>> Consistency of what? Spacing? Where? Can you make a complete example?
>> (You can show space amount with \showmakup[space])
>
> yes. and showmakeup displays: .SP:10.945 If
>
> rather than for example with: .SP:5.235
> OnceSP:3.926
> theSP:3.926
> initial SP:3.926
> designSP:3.926
> is
>
> and
>
> :3.586
> THK:-1.853
> H__E
> X
> HK:-1.390
> SP:3.586
> sigRH:0.000
> IR:0.000
> RS:0.000
> LH:0.000
> H__nificantlyLS:0.000BS:6.565
>
>
> and here's your example:
>
> \setuplayout[width=16cm]
> \showmakeup
>
> \starttext
>
> Thus, I came to the conclusion that the designer of a new
> system must not only be the implementer and first
> large||scale user; the designer should also write the first
> user manual.
> \setupbodyfont[12.895pt]
>
> {\ss The separation of any of these four components would have
> hurt \TeX\ significantly. If I had not participated fully in
> all these activities, literally hundreds of improvements
> would never have been made, because I would never have
> thought of them or perceived why they were important.\par}
>
> Do you see that width of 16cm? That's what throws it off
>
> but then again, anything less than that 12.895 font size, throws off the
> kern of \TeX\ too.
>
> As a result, I can't use any lower font size, before everything,
> including kerning of \TeX\ and spaces after sentences, are completely
> off.
>
> I mean. obeylines serve a better function than having extra spaces all
> over with no end in sight, really.
>>
>>>
>>> Furthermore, with the same token, if width is specified with a
>>>
>>> \setuplayout[width=15cm]
>>
>> OK, here the game changes...
>>
>>>
>>> Anything less than 12.895pt, especifically for that use case, wwould
>>> throw anything, particularly control sequences such as \TeX\ out
>>> of whack, and conversely, once a value of that very pt or pica or
>>> wha
[NTG-context] Re: redefine space to be the same as \␣ similar to knuthian approach
On Fri, Aug 18, 2023 at 02:26:55PM -0400, Carlos wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 18, 2023 at 06:20:29PM +0200, Mikael Sundqvist wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > It is extremely difficult to follow what you write.
> >
> > On Fri, Aug 18, 2023 at 11:43 AM Carlos wrote:
> > >
> > > If I have the following, with these linebreaks as in:
> > >
> > > {\par But a system cannot be successful if it is too strongly
> > > influenced by a single person. {\obeylines Once the initial design is
> > > complete and fairly robust, the real test begins as people
> > > with many different viewpoints undertake their own
> > > experiments.}}
> >
> > Is that the complete document? What do you have in mind with obeying
> > lines in the middle of a paragraph?
> >
> > >
> > > and opted to load another font, other than cmr that is, a \frenchspacing
> > > approach wouldn't be further required
> >
> > cmr? Not used in ConTeXt for a long time. (And what does the changing
> > of font have to do with this?)
> >
> > >
> > > Bear with me here, in the current state, for example, and as long as say
> > >
> > > «…person.␣{\obeylines Once the initial is
> > > complete…» though feasible enough, leaves any prior \␣ at the mercy of
> > > whatever fontsize and/or set width happens to be. And this is just plain
> > > wrong.
> >
> > What?
> >
> > >
> > > Likewise, if a word sequence such as \TeX\ occurs as in {\ss The
> > > separation
> > > of any of these four components would have hurt \TeX\ significantly. }
> >
> > Likewise what?
> >
> > >
> > > The next sentence: «If I had not participated…» does not get any
> > > \nofrenchspacing which is equally and doubly problematic. It shows lack of
> > > consistency. And this ought not to be an ‹either› ‹or› scenario. But
> > > rather, an and conjunctional construct. It fails both ways.
> >
> > Consistency of what? Spacing? Where? Can you make a complete example?
> > (You can show space amount with \showmakup[space])
> >
> > >
> > > Furthermore, with the same token, if width is specified with a
> > >
> > > \setuplayout[width=15cm]
> >
> > OK, here the game changes...
> >
> > >
> > > Anything less than 12.895pt, especifically for that use case, wwould
> > > throw anything, particularly control sequences such as \TeX\ out
> > > of whack, and conversely, once a value of that very pt or pica or
> > > whatever is lowered, it brings that nonfrenchspacing right back on.
> > > And if width increments occur, then it follows that any control sequence
> > > kerning
> > > also gets thrown off as a result.
> >
> > Of course the width influences the spacing. That is how the paragraph
> > builder works (and really, why it often looks good).
> >
> > >
> > > It seems so far, that with lmtx, any standalone file, document, minimal
> > > working example that does not load cmr at the outset does not produce
> > > an acceptable outcome either. By saying acceptable I meant to say it
> > > namely from a typographical point of view. Nothing else.
> >
> > I have no clue of what you talk about here.
> >
> > >
> > > from the TeXbook 380-381
> > >
> > > «\obeylines doesn’t say ‘\def^^M{\par}’, so we must make any desired
> > > changes to
> > > \par before invoking \obeylines. (2) The \uncatcodespecials operation
> > > changes a
> > > space to category 12; but the \tt font has the character ‘␣’ in the
> > > ⟨space⟩ position, so we
> > > don’t really want ␣12 . (3) The \obeyspaces macro in Appendix B merely
> > > changes the
> > > ⟨space⟩ character to category 13; active character ␣13 has been defined
> > > to be the same
> > > as \space, a macro that expands to ␣10 . This is usually what is desired;
> > > for example,
> > > it means that spaces in constructions like ‘\hbox to 10 pt {...}’ won’t
> > > cause any
> > > trouble. But in our application it has an undesirable effect, because it
> > > produces spaces
> > > that are affected by the space factor. To defeat this feature, it’s
> > > necessary either to
> > > say \frenchspacing or to redefine ␣13 to be the same as \␣. The latter
> > > alternative is
> > > better, because the former will discard spaces at the beginning of each
> > > line.»
> > >
[NTG-context] Re: redefine space to be the same as \␣ similar to knuthian approach
On Fri, Aug 18, 2023 at 06:20:29PM +0200, Mikael Sundqvist wrote:
> Hi,
>
> It is extremely difficult to follow what you write.
>
> On Fri, Aug 18, 2023 at 11:43 AM Carlos wrote:
> >
> > If I have the following, with these linebreaks as in:
> >
> > {\par But a system cannot be successful if it is too strongly
> > influenced by a single person. {\obeylines Once the initial design is
> > complete and fairly robust, the real test begins as people
> > with many different viewpoints undertake their own
> > experiments.}}
>
> Is that the complete document? What do you have in mind with obeying
> lines in the middle of a paragraph?
>
> >
> > and opted to load another font, other than cmr that is, a \frenchspacing
> > approach wouldn't be further required
>
> cmr? Not used in ConTeXt for a long time. (And what does the changing
> of font have to do with this?)
>
> >
> > Bear with me here, in the current state, for example, and as long as say
> >
> > «…person.␣{\obeylines Once the initial is
> > complete…» though feasible enough, leaves any prior \␣ at the mercy of
> > whatever fontsize and/or set width happens to be. And this is just plain
> > wrong.
>
> What?
>
> >
> > Likewise, if a word sequence such as \TeX\ occurs as in {\ss The separation
> > of any of these four components would have hurt \TeX\ significantly. }
>
> Likewise what?
>
> >
> > The next sentence: «If I had not participated…» does not get any
> > \nofrenchspacing which is equally and doubly problematic. It shows lack of
> > consistency. And this ought not to be an ‹either› ‹or› scenario. But
> > rather, an and conjunctional construct. It fails both ways.
>
> Consistency of what? Spacing? Where? Can you make a complete example?
> (You can show space amount with \showmakup[space])
>
> >
> > Furthermore, with the same token, if width is specified with a
> >
> > \setuplayout[width=15cm]
>
> OK, here the game changes...
>
> >
> > Anything less than 12.895pt, especifically for that use case, wwould
> > throw anything, particularly control sequences such as \TeX\ out
> > of whack, and conversely, once a value of that very pt or pica or
> > whatever is lowered, it brings that nonfrenchspacing right back on.
> > And if width increments occur, then it follows that any control sequence
> > kerning
> > also gets thrown off as a result.
>
> Of course the width influences the spacing. That is how the paragraph
> builder works (and really, why it often looks good).
>
> >
> > It seems so far, that with lmtx, any standalone file, document, minimal
> > working example that does not load cmr at the outset does not produce
> > an acceptable outcome either. By saying acceptable I meant to say it
> > namely from a typographical point of view. Nothing else.
>
> I have no clue of what you talk about here.
>
> >
> > from the TeXbook 380-381
> >
> > «\obeylines doesn’t say ‘\def^^M{\par}’, so we must make any desired
> > changes to
> > \par before invoking \obeylines. (2) The \uncatcodespecials operation
> > changes a
> > space to category 12; but the \tt font has the character ‘␣’ in the ⟨space⟩
> > position, so we
> > don’t really want ␣12 . (3) The \obeyspaces macro in Appendix B merely
> > changes the
> > ⟨space⟩ character to category 13; active character ␣13 has been defined to
> > be the same
> > as \space, a macro that expands to ␣10 . This is usually what is desired;
> > for example,
> > it means that spaces in constructions like ‘\hbox to 10 pt {...}’ won’t
> > cause any
> > trouble. But in our application it has an undesirable effect, because it
> > produces spaces
> > that are affected by the space factor. To defeat this feature, it’s
> > necessary either to
> > say \frenchspacing or to redefine ␣13 to be the same as \␣. The latter
> > alternative is
> > better, because the former will discard spaces at the beginning of each
> > line.»
> >
> > «In theory, this seems like it ought to work; but in practice, it fails in
> > two ways. One
> > rather obvious failure—at least, it becomes obvious when the macro is
> > tested—is that
> > all the empty lines of the file are omitted. The reason is that the \par
> > command at the
> > end of an empty line doesn’t start up a new paragraph, because it occurs in
> > vertical
> > mode. The other failure is not as obvious, because it occurs much less
> > often: The \tt
> > fonts contain ligatures for Spanish punctuation, s
[NTG-context] Re: redefine space to be the same as \␣ similar to knuthian approach
On Fri, Aug 18, 2023 at 06:20:29PM +0200, Mikael Sundqvist wrote:
> Hi,
>
> It is extremely difficult to follow what you write.
>
> On Fri, Aug 18, 2023 at 11:43 AM Carlos wrote:
> >
> > If I have the following, with these linebreaks as in:
> >
> > {\par But a system cannot be successful if it is too strongly
> > influenced by a single person. {\obeylines Once the initial design is
> > complete and fairly robust, the real test begins as people
> > with many different viewpoints undertake their own
> > experiments.}}
>
> Is that the complete document? What do you have in mind with obeying
> lines in the middle of a paragraph?
it's the only possible way off the top of my head to circumvent body
font size with a given width, while keeping both: the kern of \TeX\
and the double spacing that lmtx injects following a sentence,
within sanity check, hence the nonfrenchspacing
The separation of any of these four components would have hurt T
E X sig
nificantly.
If I had not participated fully in all these activities, literally
hundreds of improvements would never have been made, because I would
never have thought of them or perceived why they were important.
But a system cannot be successful if it is too strongly influenced
by a single person. Once the initial design is
>
> >
> > and opted to load another font, other than cmr that is, a \frenchspacing
> > approach wouldn't be further required
>
> cmr? Not used in ConTeXt for a long time. (And what does the changing
> of font have to do with this?)
latin modern.
>
> >
> > Bear with me here, in the current state, for example, and as long as say
> >
> > «…person.␣{\obeylines Once the initial is
> > complete…» though feasible enough, leaves any prior \␣ at the mercy of
> > whatever fontsize and/or set width happens to be. And this is just plain
> > wrong.
>
> What?
>
> >
> > Likewise, if a word sequence such as \TeX\ occurs as in {\ss The separation
> > of any of these four components would have hurt \TeX\ significantly. }
>
> Likewise what?
>
> >
> > The next sentence: «If I had not participated…» does not get any
> > \nofrenchspacing which is equally and doubly problematic. It shows lack of
> > consistency. And this ought not to be an ‹either› ‹or› scenario. But
> > rather, an and conjunctional construct. It fails both ways.
>
> Consistency of what? Spacing? Where? Can you make a complete example?
> (You can show space amount with \showmakup[space])
yes. and showmakeup displays: .SP:10.945 If
rather than for example with: .SP:5.235
OnceSP:3.926
theSP:3.926
initial SP:3.926
designSP:3.926
is
and
:3.586
THK:-1.853
H__E
X
HK:-1.390
SP:3.586
sigRH:0.000
IR:0.000
RS:0.000
LH:0.000
H__nificantlyLS:0.000BS:6.565
and here's your example:
\setuplayout[width=16cm]
\showmakeup
\starttext
Thus, I came to the conclusion that the designer of a new
system must not only be the implementer and first
large||scale user; the designer should also write the first
user manual.
\setupbodyfont[12.895pt]
{\ss The separation of any of these four components would have
hurt \TeX\ significantly. If I had not participated fully in
all these activities, literally hundreds of improvements
would never have been made, because I would never have
thought of them or perceived why they were important.\par}
Do you see that width of 16cm? That's what throws it off
but then again, anything less than that 12.895 font size, throws off the
kern of \TeX\ too.
As a result, I can't use any lower font size, before everything,
including kerning of \TeX\ and spaces after sentences, are completely
off.
I mean. obeylines serve a better function than having extra spaces all
over with no end in sight, really.
>
> >
> > Furthermore, with the same token, if width is specified with a
> >
> > \setuplayout[width=15cm]
>
> OK, here the game changes...
>
> >
> > Anything less than 12.895pt, especifically for that use case, wwould
> > throw anything, particularly control sequences such as \TeX\ out
> > of whack, and conversely, once a value of that very pt or pica or
> > whatever is lowered, it brings that nonfrenchspacing right back on.
> > And if width increments occur, then it follows that any control sequence
> > kerning
> > also gets thrown off as a result.
>
> Of course the width influences the spacing. That is how the paragraph
> builder works (and really, why it often looks good).
>
> >
> > It seems so far, that with lmtx, any standalone file, document, minimal
> > working example that does not load cmr at the outset does not produce
> > an acceptable outcome either. By saying acceptable I meant to say it
> >
[NTG-context] Re: redefine space to be the same as \␣ similar to knuthian approach
Hi,
It is extremely difficult to follow what you write.
On Fri, Aug 18, 2023 at 11:43 AM Carlos wrote:
>
> If I have the following, with these linebreaks as in:
>
> {\par But a system cannot be successful if it is too strongly
> influenced by a single person. {\obeylines Once the initial design is
> complete and fairly robust, the real test begins as people
> with many different viewpoints undertake their own
> experiments.}}
Is that the complete document? What do you have in mind with obeying
lines in the middle of a paragraph?
>
> and opted to load another font, other than cmr that is, a \frenchspacing
> approach wouldn't be further required
cmr? Not used in ConTeXt for a long time. (And what does the changing
of font have to do with this?)
>
> Bear with me here, in the current state, for example, and as long as say
>
> «…person.␣{\obeylines Once the initial is
> complete…» though feasible enough, leaves any prior \␣ at the mercy of
> whatever fontsize and/or set width happens to be. And this is just plain
> wrong.
What?
>
> Likewise, if a word sequence such as \TeX\ occurs as in {\ss The separation
> of any of these four components would have hurt \TeX\ significantly. }
Likewise what?
>
> The next sentence: «If I had not participated…» does not get any
> \nofrenchspacing which is equally and doubly problematic. It shows lack of
> consistency. And this ought not to be an ‹either› ‹or› scenario. But
> rather, an and conjunctional construct. It fails both ways.
Consistency of what? Spacing? Where? Can you make a complete example?
(You can show space amount with \showmakup[space])
>
> Furthermore, with the same token, if width is specified with a
>
> \setuplayout[width=15cm]
OK, here the game changes...
>
> Anything less than 12.895pt, especifically for that use case, wwould
> throw anything, particularly control sequences such as \TeX\ out
> of whack, and conversely, once a value of that very pt or pica or
> whatever is lowered, it brings that nonfrenchspacing right back on.
> And if width increments occur, then it follows that any control sequence
> kerning
> also gets thrown off as a result.
Of course the width influences the spacing. That is how the paragraph
builder works (and really, why it often looks good).
>
> It seems so far, that with lmtx, any standalone file, document, minimal
> working example that does not load cmr at the outset does not produce
> an acceptable outcome either. By saying acceptable I meant to say it
> namely from a typographical point of view. Nothing else.
I have no clue of what you talk about here.
>
> from the TeXbook 380-381
>
> «\obeylines doesn’t say ‘\def^^M{\par}’, so we must make any desired changes
> to
> \par before invoking \obeylines. (2) The \uncatcodespecials operation changes
> a
> space to category 12; but the \tt font has the character ‘␣’ in the ⟨space⟩
> position, so we
> don’t really want ␣12 . (3) The \obeyspaces macro in Appendix B merely
> changes the
> ⟨space⟩ character to category 13; active character ␣13 has been defined to be
> the same
> as \space, a macro that expands to ␣10 . This is usually what is desired; for
> example,
> it means that spaces in constructions like ‘\hbox to 10 pt {...}’ won’t cause
> any
> trouble. But in our application it has an undesirable effect, because it
> produces spaces
> that are affected by the space factor. To defeat this feature, it’s necessary
> either to
> say \frenchspacing or to redefine ␣13 to be the same as \␣. The latter
> alternative is
> better, because the former will discard spaces at the beginning of each
> line.»
>
> «In theory, this seems like it ought to work; but in practice, it fails in
> two ways. One
> rather obvious failure—at least, it becomes obvious when the macro is
> tested—is that
> all the empty lines of the file are omitted. The reason is that the \par
> command at the
> end of an empty line doesn’t start up a new paragraph, because it occurs in
> vertical
> mode. The other failure is not as obvious, because it occurs much less often:
> The \tt
> fonts contain ligatures for Spanish punctuation, so the sequences ?‘ and !‘
> will be
> printed as ¿ and ¡ respectively. Both of these defects can be cured by
> inserting
>
> and
>
>
> «When INITEX creates a brand new TEX, all characters have a space factor code
> of 1000, except that the uppercase letters ‘A’ through ‘Z’ have code 999.
> (This
> slight difference is what makes punctuation act differently after an
> uppercase letter; do
> you see why?) Plain TEX redefines a few of these codes using the \sfcode
> primitive,
> which is similar to \catcode (see Appendix B); for example, the instructions
> \sfcode‘)=0
> \
[NTG-context] redefine space to be the same as \␣ similar to knuthian approach
If I have the following, with these linebreaks as in:
{\par But a system cannot be successful if it is too strongly
influenced by a single person. {\obeylines Once the initial design is
complete and fairly robust, the real test begins as people
with many different viewpoints undertake their own
experiments.}}
and opted to load another font, other than cmr that is, a \frenchspacing
approach wouldn't be further required
Bear with me here, in the current state, for example, and as long as say
«…person.␣{\obeylines Once the initial is
complete…» though feasible enough, leaves any prior \␣ at the mercy of
whatever fontsize and/or set width happens to be. And this is just plain
wrong.
Likewise, if a word sequence such as \TeX\ occurs as in {\ss The separation
of any of these four components would have hurt \TeX\ significantly. }
The next sentence: «If I had not participated…» does not get any
\nofrenchspacing which is equally and doubly problematic. It shows lack of
consistency. And this ought not to be an ‹either› ‹or› scenario. But
rather, an and conjunctional construct. It fails both ways.
Furthermore, with the same token, if width is specified with a
\setuplayout[width=15cm]
Anything less than 12.895pt, especifically for that use case, wwould
throw anything, particularly control sequences such as \TeX\ out
of whack, and conversely, once a value of that very pt or pica or
whatever is lowered, it brings that nonfrenchspacing right back on.
And if width increments occur, then it follows that any control sequence kerning
also gets thrown off as a result.
It seems so far, that with lmtx, any standalone file, document, minimal
working example that does not load cmr at the outset does not produce
an acceptable outcome either. By saying acceptable I meant to say it
namely from a typographical point of view. Nothing else.
from the TeXbook 380-381
«\obeylines doesn’t say ‘\def^^M{\par}’, so we must make any desired changes to
\par before invoking \obeylines. (2) The \uncatcodespecials operation changes a
space to category 12; but the \tt font has the character ‘␣’ in the ⟨space⟩
position, so we
don’t really want ␣12 . (3) The \obeyspaces macro in Appendix B merely changes
the
⟨space⟩ character to category 13; active character ␣13 has been defined to be
the same
as \space, a macro that expands to ␣10 . This is usually what is desired; for
example,
it means that spaces in constructions like ‘\hbox to 10 pt {...}’ won’t cause
any
trouble. But in our application it has an undesirable effect, because it
produces spaces
that are affected by the space factor. To defeat this feature, it’s necessary
either to
say \frenchspacing or to redefine ␣13 to be the same as \␣. The latter
alternative is
better, because the former will discard spaces at the beginning of each
line.»
«In theory, this seems like it ought to work; but in practice, it fails in two
ways. One
rather obvious failure—at least, it becomes obvious when the macro is tested—is
that
all the empty lines of the file are omitted. The reason is that the \par
command at the
end of an empty line doesn’t start up a new paragraph, because it occurs in
vertical
mode. The other failure is not as obvious, because it occurs much less often:
The \tt
fonts contain ligatures for Spanish punctuation, so the sequences ?‘ and !‘
will be
printed as ¿ and ¡ respectively. Both of these defects can be cured by inserting
and
«When INITEX creates a brand new TEX, all characters have a space factor code
of 1000, except that the uppercase letters ‘A’ through ‘Z’ have code 999. (This
slight difference is what makes punctuation act differently after an uppercase
letter; do
you see why?) Plain TEX redefines a few of these codes using the \sfcode
primitive,
which is similar to \catcode (see Appendix B); for example, the instructions
\sfcode‘)=0
\sfcode‘.=3000
make right parentheses “transparent” to the space factor, while tripling the
stretcha-
bility after periods. The \frenchspacing operation resets \sfcode‘. to
1000.»
--
If at first you don't succeed, you must be a programmer.
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[NTG-context] Re: Tracker for hyphens at the end of lines
On 8/9/2023 12:10 PM, denis.ma...@unibe.ch wrote:
Keith, you can also check hyphenations using a script:
-- check-hyphens.lua
--[[
analyze hyphenations based on a ConTeXt log file
enable hyphenation tracking in the ConTeXt file with
\enabletrackers[hyphenation.applied]
then run this script with
lua check-hyphens.lua input_file whitelist.ending
for the input_file we assume .log, so no need to add this
for the whitelist a file ending has to be supplied
the whitelist is optional
]]
-- local lines = string.splitlines(io.loaddata("oeps.tex")or "") or { }
-- local pprint = require('pprint')
function main (input_file, whitelist_file)
local lines = lines_from(input_file .. ".log")
local whitelist = {}
if whitelist_file == nil then
whitelist = {}
else
whitelist = lines_from(whitelist_file)
end
--pprint (lines)
--pprint (whitelist)
local filteredWordlist = filterHyphenationsWordlist
(cleanLines
(getHyphenationLines(lines)),
whitelist)
-- pprint(filteredWordlist)
saveResultsToFile(filteredWordlist, 'check-hyphens.log')
end
-- see if the file exists
-- http://lua-users.org/wiki/FileInputOutput
-- see if the file exists
function file_exists(file)
local f = io.open(file, "rb")
if f then f:close() end
return f ~= nil
end
-- get all lines from a file, returns an empty
-- list/table if the file does not exist
function lines_from(file)
if not file_exists(file) then return {} end
local lines = {}
for line in io.lines(file) do
lines[#lines + 1] = line
end
return lines
end
-- String testing
function starts_with(str, start)
return str:sub(1, #start) == start
end
-- get relevant lines
function getHyphenationLines(lines)
local lines_with_hyphenations = {}
for k,v in pairs(lines) do
if
(starts_with(v, "hyphenated")
and not string.find(v, "start hyphenated words")
and not string.find(v, "stop hyphenated words"))
then table.insert(lines_with_hyphenations, v) end
end
return lines_with_hyphenations
end
-- String cleaning
-- wrapper functions
function cleanLines (xs)
local cleanedLines = {}
for k,v in pairs(xs) do
table.insert(cleanedLines, cleanLine(v))
end
return cleanedLines
end
function cleanLine (x)
return removeTrailingPunctuation(getWord(x))
end
-- 1. Start reading at colon
function getWord(x)
-- wir lesen aber Zeichen 26
return string.sub(x,26)
end
-- 2. Remove trailing punctuation
function removeTrailingPunctuation (x)
if string.find(x, ',') then
return x:sub(1, -2)
else
return x
end
end
-- test if word is in second list
function inList (x, list)
for k,v in ipairs(list) do
if v == x then
return true
end
end
return nil
end
-- Filter hyphenated words based on second list (whitelist)
function filterHyphenationsWordlist (xs, list)
local result = {}
for k,v in ipairs(xs) do
if not inList(v, list) then table.insert (result, v) end
end
return result
end
function saveResultsToFile(results, output_file)
-- Opens a file in write mode
output_file = io.open("check_hyphens.log", "w")
-- sets the default output file as output_file
io.output(output_file)
-- iterate oiver
for k,v in ipairs(results) do
io.write(v..'\n')
end
-- closes the open file
io.close(output_file)
end
-- Run
main(arg[1], arg[2])
Ok, a little lua lesson, if you don't mind.
xxx.tex
\enabletrackers[hyphenation.applied]
\starttext
\input tufte
\stoptext
xxx.tmp
re-fine
xxx.lua
local function check(logname,whitename)
if not logname then
return
end
local data = io.loaddata(logname) or ""
if data == "" then
return
end
local blob = string.match(data,"start hyphenated words(.-)stop
hyphenated words")
if not blob then
return
end
local white = table.tohash(string.splitlines(whitename and
io.loaddata(whitename) or ""))
for n, s in string.gmatch(blob,"(%d+) *: (%S+)") do
if white[s] then
-- were good
else
print(n,s)
end
end
end
check(environment.files[1],environment.files[2])
-- print("TEST 1")
-- check("xxx.log")
-- print("TEST 2")
-- check("xxx.log","xxx.tmp")
---
>mtxrun --script xxx xxx.log
1 dis-tinguish
1 harmo-nize
1 re-fine
>mtxrun --script xxx xxx.log xxx.tmp
1 dis-tinguish
1 harmo-nize
That said, i wonder if we should add the filename, just in case on
[NTG-context] Re: Tracker for hyphens at the end of lines
Keith, you can also check hyphenations using a script:
-- check-hyphens.lua
--[[
analyze hyphenations based on a ConTeXt log file
enable hyphenation tracking in the ConTeXt file with
\enabletrackers[hyphenation.applied]
then run this script with
lua check-hyphens.lua input_file whitelist.ending
for the input_file we assume .log, so no need to add this
for the whitelist a file ending has to be supplied
the whitelist is optional
]]
-- local lines = string.splitlines(io.loaddata("oeps.tex")or "") or { }
-- local pprint = require('pprint')
function main (input_file, whitelist_file)
local lines = lines_from(input_file .. ".log")
local whitelist = {}
if whitelist_file == nil then
whitelist = {}
else
whitelist = lines_from(whitelist_file)
end
--pprint (lines)
--pprint (whitelist)
local filteredWordlist = filterHyphenationsWordlist
(cleanLines
(getHyphenationLines(lines)),
whitelist)
-- pprint(filteredWordlist)
saveResultsToFile(filteredWordlist, 'check-hyphens.log')
end
-- see if the file exists
-- http://lua-users.org/wiki/FileInputOutput
-- see if the file exists
function file_exists(file)
local f = io.open(file, "rb")
if f then f:close() end
return f ~= nil
end
-- get all lines from a file, returns an empty
-- list/table if the file does not exist
function lines_from(file)
if not file_exists(file) then return {} end
local lines = {}
for line in io.lines(file) do
lines[#lines + 1] = line
end
return lines
end
-- String testing
function starts_with(str, start)
return str:sub(1, #start) == start
end
-- get relevant lines
function getHyphenationLines(lines)
local lines_with_hyphenations = {}
for k,v in pairs(lines) do
if
(starts_with(v, "hyphenated")
and not string.find(v, "start hyphenated words")
and not string.find(v, "stop hyphenated words"))
then table.insert(lines_with_hyphenations, v) end
end
return lines_with_hyphenations
end
-- String cleaning
-- wrapper functions
function cleanLines (xs)
local cleanedLines = {}
for k,v in pairs(xs) do
table.insert(cleanedLines, cleanLine(v))
end
return cleanedLines
end
function cleanLine (x)
return removeTrailingPunctuation(getWord(x))
end
-- 1. Start reading at colon
function getWord(x)
-- wir lesen aber Zeichen 26
return string.sub(x,26)
end
-- 2. Remove trailing punctuation
function removeTrailingPunctuation (x)
if string.find(x, ',') then
return x:sub(1, -2)
else
return x
end
end
-- test if word is in second list
function inList (x, list)
for k,v in ipairs(list) do
if v == x then
return true
end
end
return nil
end
-- Filter hyphenated words based on second list (whitelist)
function filterHyphenationsWordlist (xs, list)
local result = {}
for k,v in ipairs(xs) do
if not inList(v, list) then table.insert (result, v) end
end
return result
end
function saveResultsToFile(results, output_file)
-- Opens a file in write mode
output_file = io.open("check_hyphens.log", "w")
-- sets the default output file as output_file
io.output(output_file)
-- iterate oiver
for k,v in ipairs(results) do
io.write(v..'\n')
end
-- closes the open file
io.close(output_file)
end
-- Run
main(arg[1], arg[2])
> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
> Von: Keith McKay
> Gesendet: Dienstag, 1. August 2023 20:22
> An: mailing list for ConTeXt users
> Betreff: [NTG-context] Re: Tracker for hyphens at the end of lines
>
> Thanks Hans!
>
> I'm never disappointed, always amazed with ConTeXt!
>
> This is just what I was looking for.
>
> Best Wishes
>
> Keith McKay
>
> On 01/08/2023 18:10, Hans Hagen via ntg-context wrote:
> > On 8/1/2023 4:54 PM, Keith McKay wrote:
> >> Hi colleagues,
> >>
> >> Is there a tracker for highlighting hyphens at the end of lines
> >> similar the way underfull and overfull boxes can be displayed with a
> >> coloured bar at the end of the offending line?
> >>
> >> I have looked at the wiki page "Reviewing hyphenation" and it has a
> >> solution for mkii from 2009 which, I would think, won't be suitable
> >> for present day ConTeXt. I have tried searching for hyphens using
> >> Skim and Adobe Acrobate viewers but although they find hyphenation in
> >> line they don't recognise hyphens at the edge of lines.
> >>
> >> Any help would be appreciated.
> > I suppose you would be disappointed it there was no tracker ...
&g
[NTG-context] Reinserting a section title followed by (continued) after a page break
I'm trying to use ConTeXt for playwriting, and I think it would be best to use sections for dialog. However, if a dialog's text is interrupted by a page break, it is customary to restate the character name followed by (continued) on the following page: --- open --- John My name is John, and I seek help with my --- page break --- John (cont'd) typesetting needs... --- end --- Maybe what I need is instead a mark? Here's a catch though, I will also need this to work for simultaneous dialog as well. This kind of dialog is represented by having dialog sections in columns: --- open --- Alice Bob John, you fool.John, you imbecile. --- page break --- Alice (cont'd) Don't you know that everyone uses Word to typeset their plays? --- end --- How can I do this kind of thing in ConTeXt? At the moment, I've been looking into adding a hook to shipout to prepend a section header with the last custom mark I've set. Even still, I don't know if this would work, or how to go about achieving this. If columns would be too difficult to implement, I'd be fine with living without (continued) support in them since they are pretty rare. ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : https://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] knuth
On Fri, Jun 02, 2023 at 09:58:31AM +0200, Hans Hagen via ntg-context wrote: > On 6/2/2023 9:27 AM, BPJ wrote: > > > I wonder what Knuth would say about having ChatGPT write computer > > programs, which I think can be outright dangerous. Either you get shitty > > code which doesn't work, which is good, or you get shitty code which > > works which is bad or Really Bad. > > He's pretty clear that he leave that to others and continues with TAOCP. > > wrt you remark: to a large extend these are 'plagiarism' machines so one can > wonder about more. I suppose it also depends on how original these programs > are (or become). Not original at all. One New Years' resolution ought to be «stop feeding this whatever created by whoever» I've been trying to find a recent (just done a few months ago) interactive session I had had with ChatGPT but I'm afraid I must have dd'd the entire drive (just an honest mistake on the wrong drive at the time while aiming primarily at fixing another drive and there it went :( But every interaction with it [chatgpt], was met/replied to with a digression and paraphrasing on its part. i.e, sorry 'bout that. I will not make that mistake again. I knew right away it was just spitting out useless information. Grammatically correct but not factual. Lacking substance. I first brought up the invention of the printing press as a starting point. And I asked it, to write me up an essay with the most interesting parts I remember that the point that chatgpt was trying to make, was in that the printing press challenged the authority of the church. And I remember I had to go back and forth with it and question that very verb/use of the word challenging. If anything seemed clear to me years ago. and also now, by reading about the printing press and with the publication of the Bible and later with the Book of Psalms and the first colophon in human hitory and so forth, is that the invention of the printing press fostered the establishment of the church. But I can't recall/just don't know right now if by the time chatgpt had decided to use ‹challenging› was implying afterwards or after the establishment of the church, and the excommunications that followed and so forth. All I know is that it rewrote it with different paragraphs after I pointed it out. Very well put nevertheless. But its main argumentative conclusion was the challenging part rather than cementing/positioning/establishing/ one Then I thought, heck, let's see if chatgtt is aware of the relatively recent findings about the printing methods used by Gutenberg and so forth. But it wasn't very clear on this either. As a matter of fact it had no clue really about this for example, citing : https://www.nytimes.com/2001/01/27/arts/has-history-been-too-generous-to-gutenberg.html «Johann Gutenberg, the 15th-century German craftsman, has long been believed to be the father of modern typography. But the secretive inventor may have to share some of the paternity now. A physicist and a scholar of rare books at Princeton University who jointly used new technology to examine some of Gutenberg's texts say he may not have created the seminal process after all, a finding could rewrite the history of printing. The two scholars contend that the metal mold method of printing attributed to Gutenberg was probably invented by someone else about 20 years after Gutenberg printed his Bible. The method, which involves punching a letter into a copper matrix that is filled with lead alloy to create hundreds of identical letters, was the principal way of printing until after World War II.» «The discovery was announced on Monday by Paul Needham, the librarian of the Scheide Library, a private library housed at Princeton, and Blaise Agüera y Arcas, a 25-year-old graduate of Princeton with a degree in physics, before a standing-room-only audience at New York's Grolier Club, a club for book collectors founded in 1884.» the above link was referenced at the following link originally, which I had read before https://jikji.utah.edu/ > I don't see myself using such software, just like I don't > use all these software coding tools (ide stuff). When I acn't remember what > I'm doing, or need constant help popping up I should not code. I'm intrigued > of course, and see valid applications, but wrt programming I'm just not that > interested. I bet after a few years people get bored with the artificial > stuff (painting, music, proze, movies, whatever; just hitting buttons > doesn't make a creative person I guess), unless of course one wants to be > zombified. > > Hans > > - > Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE > Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Has
Re: [NTG-context] ntg-context Digest, Vol 227, Issue 15
This is > > normally done by loading special math fonts into the math family slots. > Your font > > set is lacking at least the parameter mentioned earlier. > > > > What parameter is this referring to here? > > > > If I were to load sans it finishes off without errors on the math side, > > but then again, doesn't load sans at all > > > > mkiv lua stats > loaded fonts: 2 files: latinmodern-math.otf, > minionpro-regular.otf > > > > And as you can guess, the above is not I was looking forward to > > in other words, this is wanted > > mkiv lua stats > loaded fonts: 4 files: minionpro-bold.otf, > minionpro-it.otf, minionpro-regular.otf, myriadpro-regular.otf > > but then again, it's not possible without the preloaded > latinmodern-math if a math environment is included. > > > > > > > -- > > Real computer scientists don't comment their code. The identifiers are > > so long they can't afford the disk space. > > > > > ___ > > If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry > to the Wiki! > > > > maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / > https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context > > webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net > > archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ > > wiki : https://contextgarden.net > > > ___ > > > -- > `Lasu' Releases SAG 0.3 -- Freeware Book Takes Paves For New World Order > by staff writers > > Helsinki, Finland, August 6, 1995 -- In a surprise movement, Lars > ``Lasu'' Wirzenius today released the 0.3 edition of the ``Linux System > Administrators' Guide''. Already an industry non-classic, the new > version sports such overwhelming features as an overview of a Linux > system, a completely new climbing session in a tree, and a list of > acknowledgements in the introduction. > The SAG, as the book is affectionately called, is one of the > corner stones of the Linux Documentation Project. ``We at the LDP feel > that we wouldn't be able to produce anything at all, that all our work > would be futile, if it weren't for the SAG,'' says Matt Welsh, director > of LDP, Inc. > The new version is still distributed freely, now even with a > copyright that allows modification. ``More dough,'' explains the author. > Despite insistent rumors about blatant commercialization, the SAG will > probably remain free. ``Even more dough,'' promises the author. > The author refuses to comment on Windows NT and Windows 96 > versions, claiming not to understand what the question is about. > Industry gossip, however, tells that Bill Gates, co-founder and CEO of > Microsoft, producer of the Windows series of video games, has visited > Helsinki several times this year. Despite of this, Linus Torvalds, > author of the word processor Linux with which the SAG was written, is > not worried. ``We'll have world domination real soon now, anyway,'' he > explains, ``for 1.4 at the lastest.'' > ... > -- Lars Wirzenius >[comp.os.linux.announce] > > > > -- > > Message: 3 > Date: Tue, 9 May 2023 11:02:26 -0400 > From: Carlos > To: ntg-context@ntg.nl > Subject: Re: [NTG-context] This is rmally done by loading special math > fonts into the math family slots. > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > > On Tue, May 09, 2023 at 04:46:42PM +0200, Mikael Sundqvist via ntg-context > wrote: > > On Tue, May 9, 2023 at 4:20?PM Carlos via ntg-context > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello list > > > > > > the whole error message I get is > > > > > > tex error > tex error on line 90 in file > ./atestinminion-context.mkiv: Math error: parameter 'operatorsize' with id > 8 in style 0 is not set > > > > > > \m_operator_text > > > \endgroup \Ustopmathmode > > > \m_operator_text > > > \stopforceddisplaymath > > > \egroup \ifcase \c_strc_formulas_frame_mode \else > \strc_math_number_check_offsets \fi \ifcase \c_strc_formulas_frame_mode > \strc_math_number_check \or \strc_math_number_check_outside \else > \strc_math_number_check_inside \fi \str > > > \m_operator_text > > > \endgroup \strc_formulas_endstrut \stopinnermath > > > \afterdisplayspace \egroup > > > \m_operator_text > > > \strc_formulas_pla
Re: [NTG-context] This is rmally done by loading special math fonts into the math family slots.
>
> tex error > tex error on line 90 in file ./atestinminion-context.mkiv:
> Math error: parameter 'operatorsize' with id 8 in style 0 is not set
>
> \m_operator_text
> \endgroup \Ustopmathmode
> \m_operator_text
> \stopforceddisplaymath
> \egroup \ifcase \c_strc_formulas_frame_mode \else
> \strc_math_number_check_offsets \fi \ifcase \c_strc_formulas_frame_mode
> \strc_math_number_check \or \strc_math_number_check_outside \else
> \strc_math_number_check_inside \fi \str
> \m_operator_text
> \endgroup \strc_formulas_endstrut \stopinnermath
> \afterdisplayspace \egroup
> \m_operator_text
> \strc_formulas_place_number \strc_formulas_flush_number \dostarttagged
> \t!formulacontent \empty \dotagregisterformula \c_strc_formulas_n \csname
> \e!stop \formulaparameter \c!alternative \v!formula \endcsname
> \dostoptagged \dostoptagged \nonoindentati
>
> \stopformula
>
> \startformula
>
> \int_{\infty}
>
> >> \stopformula
> >>
>
> Sorry, but I can't typeset math unless various parameters have been set. This
> is
> normally done by loading special math fonts into the math family slots. Your
> font
> set is lacking at least the parameter mentioned earlier.
>
> What parameter is this referring to here?
>
> If I were to load sans it finishes off without errors on the math side,
> but then again, doesn't load sans at all
>
> mkiv lua stats > loaded fonts: 2 files: latinmodern-math.otf,
> minionpro-regular.otf
>
> And as you can guess, the above is not I was looking forward to
in other words, this is wanted
mkiv lua stats > loaded fonts: 4 files: minionpro-bold.otf, minionpro-it.otf,
minionpro-regular.otf, myriadpro-regular.otf
but then again, it's not possible without the preloaded
latinmodern-math if a math environment is included.
>
>
> --
> Real computer scientists don't comment their code. The identifiers are
> so long they can't afford the disk space.
> ___
> If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the
> Wiki!
>
> maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl /
> https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
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> archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/
> wiki : https://contextgarden.net
> ___
--
`Lasu' Releases SAG 0.3 -- Freeware Book Takes Paves For New World Order
by staff writers
Helsinki, Finland, August 6, 1995 -- In a surprise movement, Lars
``Lasu'' Wirzenius today released the 0.3 edition of the ``Linux System
Administrators' Guide''. Already an industry non-classic, the new
version sports such overwhelming features as an overview of a Linux
system, a completely new climbing session in a tree, and a list of
acknowledgements in the introduction.
The SAG, as the book is affectionately called, is one of the
corner stones of the Linux Documentation Project. ``We at the LDP feel
that we wouldn't be able to produce anything at all, that all our work
would be futile, if it weren't for the SAG,'' says Matt Welsh, director
of LDP, Inc.
The new version is still distributed freely, now even with a
copyright that allows modification. ``More dough,'' explains the author.
Despite insistent rumors about blatant commercialization, the SAG will
probably remain free. ``Even more dough,'' promises the author.
The author refuses to comment on Windows NT and Windows 96
versions, claiming not to understand what the question is about.
Industry gossip, however, tells that Bill Gates, co-founder and CEO of
Microsoft, producer of the Windows series of video games, has visited
Helsinki several times this year. Despite of this, Linus Torvalds,
author of the word processor Linux with which the SAG was written, is
not worried. ``We'll have world domination real soon now, anyway,'' he
explains, ``for 1.4 at the lastest.''
...
-- Lars Wirzenius
[comp.os.linux.announce]
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Re: [NTG-context] new units
On Sun, 7 May 2023 13:00:18 +0100 Bruce Horrocks via ntg-context wrote: > Will there be new units to represent the amount of alcohol that has > to be imbibed in order to (a) create the joke and (b) understand it? > > I'm not sure which of these needs to be the larger. Perhaps that > could be the subject of the next research? The moral of the story is that we all missed something by not attending BachoTeX - as is the case every year. One should note Hans' reference to the gala dinner, which is better characterized by an excess of dishes of food than by an excess of alcohol. We have an opportunity to make up for this missed occasion this year by attending the annual ConTeXt meeting. Of course, these two meetings are complementary and ideally one should aim at attending *both*. As to the Dutch left and right thumbs, the French word is also "pouce" for the length of an inchworm. My question is, what is the appropriate unit for inching forward or inching along? Would this be one inch per fortnight? Alan ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : https://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] help wanted: English native speaker as co-editor
Hi, as most of you know, I’m the editor of context journal, the annual magazine for all members of context group, AKA “proceedings of the [previous] ConTeXt meeting”. While I have some experience as an editor in German, my English is far from perfect, so I need to rely on a native speaker for proofreading. In the least years, Clyde was filling that role very diligently, but he just moved and can’t make the time again. Deadline for the current issue is only in August, but we’re already at ~100 pages with the articles I got (by Willi, Willi, Willi, Taco, Taco, Götz, and me) and I’d like to spread the work a bit. * Would you like to help with that? * – You don’t need to understand the code. – I want the text to be correct and understandable, we don’t need to reach literary quality. – You can work in PDF or in the sources, as you like. – More than one person is welcome. BTW I never thought of offering “our” articles to TUG and NTG, while I sometimes got articles that were published in TUGboat or MAPS first. (And I’m writing/translating for DANTE’s DTK regularly.) I’ll start to do that, since “recycling” makes sense, and it also can’t hurt to spread the word. This is also a reminder to hand in your talks from Dreifelden – or new articles! Hraban ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : https://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] /usr/bin/env texlua no such file or directory; ~/context/tex is not a valid TEXROOT path; no file plain.tex
__ > If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the > Wiki! > > maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / > https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context > webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net > archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ > wiki : https://contextgarden.net > ___ > -- "We invented a new protocol and called it Kermit, after Kermit the Frog, star of "The Muppet Show." [3] [3] Why? Mostly because there was a Muppets calendar on the wall when we were trying to think of a name, and Kermit is a pleasant, unassuming sort of character. But since we weren't sure whether it was OK to name our protocol after this popular television and movie star, we pretended that KERMIT was an acronym; unfortunately, we could never find a good set of words to go with the letters, as readers of some of our early source code can attest. Later, while looking through a name book for his forthcoming baby, Bill Catchings noticed that "Kermit" was a Celtic word for "free", which is what all Kermit programs should be, and words to this effect replaced the strained acronyms in our source code (Bill's baby turned out to be a girl, so he had to name her Becky instead). When BYTE Magazine was preparing our 1984 Kermit article for publication, they suggested we contact Henson Associates Inc. for permission to say that we did indeed name the protocol after Kermit the Frog. Permission was kindly granted, and now the real story can be told. I resisted the temptation, however, to call the present work "Kermit the Book." -- Frank da Cruz, "Kermit - A File Transfer Protocol" ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : https://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Printing problem
I was able to print Mikael's PDF without any problem. I used a HP Laser Jet Pro MFP M276WBUT I should note that I also used the PostScript driver available from HP's Linux-specific web pages: https://developers.hp.com/hp-linux-imaging-and-printing/ Michael On 2023-03-16 04:49, Mikael Sundqvist via ntg-context wrote: > Hi all, > > I have had some printing problems lately, and it is not perfectly > clear to me (or to Hans, we have discussed this a bit) whether it is > the printer that has a lack of memory or if the pdf files are somehow > corrupted. It might have to do with type3 fonts. > > I attach a pdf file that does not print on our printer at work. Or > well, it prints almost all of the page, but stops at the word > "negativa" (or was it "egenvärden", I do not have the printout here > right now). Then the printer also prints an error report about some > "offending command". > > So, a request: If you have an easy access to a printer, can you print > this page and report back if all of it comes out, or what is > happening? > > Thanks > > /Mikael > ___ > If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the > Wiki! > > maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / > https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context > webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net > archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ > wiki : https://contextgarden.net > ___ dugga.pdf Description: Adobe PDF document ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : https://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Printing problem
Kyocera FS-C5100DN, * Apple Preview: ok * Adobe Acrobat Pro 9: doesn’t print, no error * Adobe Acrobat Reader DC: PostScript Error (after "poäng") * Qoppa PDF Studio 2019: ok * Skim: ok * Firefox (pdf.js): ok (prints as lowres image, as usual) * Foxit PDF Reader 11: ok Looks like it might be a problem with Adobe’s PS/PDF library. Hraban Am 16.03.23 um 12:49 schrieb Mikael Sundqvist via ntg-context: Hi all, I have had some printing problems lately, and it is not perfectly clear to me (or to Hans, we have discussed this a bit) whether it is the printer that has a lack of memory or if the pdf files are somehow corrupted. It might have to do with type3 fonts. I attach a pdf file that does not print on our printer at work. Or well, it prints almost all of the page, but stops at the word "negativa" (or was it "egenvärden", I do not have the printout here right now). Then the printer also prints an error report about some "offending command". So, a request: If you have an easy access to a printer, can you print this page and report back if all of it comes out, or what is happening? Thanks /Mikael ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : https://contextgarden.net ___ ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : https://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Printing problem
Sent from my phone to a HP Color LaserJet MFP M283 printer. Perfect print. Keith McKay On Thu, 16 Mar 2023, 11:51 Mikael Sundqvist via ntg-context, < ntg-context@ntg.nl> wrote: > Hi all, > > I have had some printing problems lately, and it is not perfectly > clear to me (or to Hans, we have discussed this a bit) whether it is > the printer that has a lack of memory or if the pdf files are somehow > corrupted. It might have to do with type3 fonts. > > I attach a pdf file that does not print on our printer at work. Or > well, it prints almost all of the page, but stops at the word > "negativa" (or was it "egenvärden", I do not have the printout here > right now). Then the printer also prints an error report about some > "offending command". > > So, a request: If you have an easy access to a printer, can you print > this page and report back if all of it comes out, or what is > happening? > > Thanks > > /Mikael > > ___ > If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to > the Wiki! > > maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / > https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context > webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net > archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ > wiki : https://contextgarden.net > > ___ > ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : https://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Printing problem
Hello Mikael, As asked, I printed the page on a HP Officejet Pro 7740 as well in draft- as in high-quality mode. The print-out looks ok in both cases, there is all text and no errors. Kind regards Willi > On 16 Mar 2023, at 12:49, Mikael Sundqvist via ntg-context > wrote: > > Hi all, > > I have had some printing problems lately, and it is not perfectly > clear to me (or to Hans, we have discussed this a bit) whether it is > the printer that has a lack of memory or if the pdf files are somehow > corrupted. It might have to do with type3 fonts. > > I attach a pdf file that does not print on our printer at work. Or > well, it prints almost all of the page, but stops at the word > "negativa" (or was it "egenvärden", I do not have the printout here > right now). Then the printer also prints an error report about some > "offending command". > > So, a request: If you have an easy access to a printer, can you print > this page and report back if all of it comes out, or what is > happening? > > Thanks > > /Mikael > ___ > If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the > Wiki! > > maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / > https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context > webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net > archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ > wiki : https://contextgarden.net > ___ ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : https://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Printing problem
Prints fine on a LaserJet Pro M501 from Preview.app. __martin On 16 Mar 2023, at 11:49, Mikael Sundqvist via ntg-context wrote: Hi all, I have had some printing problems lately, and it is not perfectly clear to me (or to Hans, we have discussed this a bit) whether it is the printer that has a lack of memory or if the pdf files are somehow corrupted. It might have to do with type3 fonts. I attach a pdf file that does not print on our printer at work. Or well, it prints almost all of the page, but stops at the word "negativa" (or was it "egenvärden", I do not have the printout here right now). Then the printer also prints an error report about some "offending command". So, a request: If you have an easy access to a printer, can you print this page and report back if all of it comes out, or what is happening? Thanks /Mikael ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : https://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Printing problem
Hi all, I have had some printing problems lately, and it is not perfectly clear to me (or to Hans, we have discussed this a bit) whether it is the printer that has a lack of memory or if the pdf files are somehow corrupted. It might have to do with type3 fonts. I attach a pdf file that does not print on our printer at work. Or well, it prints almost all of the page, but stops at the word "negativa" (or was it "egenvärden", I do not have the printout here right now). Then the printer also prints an error report about some "offending command". So, a request: If you have an easy access to a printer, can you print this page and report back if all of it comes out, or what is happening? Thanks /Mikael dugga.pdf Description: Adobe PDF document ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : https://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] issue with custom hyphenator
Dear list,
I have just copied this from
https://www.pragma-ade.com/general/manuals/languages-mkiv.pdf#page=23:
\startluacode
local subset = {
a = true,
e = true,
i = true,
o = true,
u = true,
y = true,
}
languages.hyphenators.traditional.installmethod("test",
function(dictionary,word,n)
local t = { }
for i=1,#word do
local w = word[i]
if subset[w] then
t[i] = {
before = "<" .. w,
after = w .. ">",
left = false,
right = false,
}
else
t[i] = false
end
end
return t
end
)
\stopluacode
\definehyphenationfeatures
[demo]
[alternative=test]
\setuphyphenation[method=traditional]
\starttext
%\righthyphenmin=-1
\sethyphenationfeatures[demo]
\hsize\zeropoint
coming anaback
\stoptext
Using current latest (from 2023.02.07 19:06), I get:
cing
anack
I’m missing m and b in the hyphenated words.
I’m afraid that the hyphenator is all Greek to me.
Is there any reason why letters are lost in hyphenation?
I’m afraid (I think) I might have hit a bug.
Many thanks for your help,
Pablo
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Re: [NTG-context] Bug in verbatim wrapping examples on wiki
On 2/5/23 13:13, Hans Hagen via ntg-context wrote:
> On 2/5/2023 12:32 PM, Pablo Rodriguez via ntg-context wrote:
>> [...]
>> Are we missing something or is this a bug?
> what do you expect as result? (maybe try \righthyphenmin=1)
Line breaks are removing characters.
In the sample below, output from
\hsize\zeropoint
\sha{a1b2c3d4}
reads:
a
_
_
_
_
3d4
I’m afraid \righthyphenmin=-1 prevents hyphenation (it seems to do it
everywhere).
Sorry, but I don’t get what is wrong here.
Many thanks for your help,
Pablo
\startluacode
function document.addfunnyhyphen(tfmdata)
local underscore = utf.byte("_")
local char = tfmdata.characters[underscore]
if not char then return end
tfmdata.characters[0xFE000] = {
width= 0,
height = 0,
depth= 0,
commands = {
{ "right", -char.width },
{ "down", char.depth },
{ "slot", 1, underscore },
}
}
end
utilities.sequencers.appendaction("aftercopyingcharacters",
"after","document.addfunnyhyphen")
local shared = {
start = 1,
length = 1,
before = utf.char(0xFE000),
after = nil,
left = false,
right = false,
}
local all = table.setmetatableindex({ }, function(t,k)
return shared
end)
languages.hyphenators.traditional.installmethod("sha",
function(dictionary,word,n)
return all
end
)
\stopluacode
\definehyphenationfeatures
[sha]
[characters=all,
alternative=sha,
righthyphenchar="FE000]
\unexpanded\def\sha#1%
{\begingroup\tt
\righthyphenmin=-1
\sethyphenationfeatures[sha]%
\setuphyphenation[method=traditional]%
#1%
\endgroup}
\starttext
\startTEXpage[width=6em, offset=.25em]
\hsize\zeropoint
\sha{a1b2c3d4}
extraordinary linguistics
\righthyphenmin=-1
extraordinary linguistics
\stopTEXpage
\stoptext
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Re: [NTG-context] Bug in verbatim wrapping examples on wiki
On 2/5/2023 12:32 PM, Pablo Rodriguez via ntg-context wrote:
On 2/4/23 10:37, Pablo Rodriguez via ntg-context wrote:
On 2/4/23 07:49, Hugo Landau via ntg-context wrote:
On this page of the wiki there is an example for wrapping long words,
like long hexadecimal strings:
https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Wrapping
This example is buggy because it deletes one character at the point that
it is wrapped.
Anyone have a solution?
Many thanks for your report, Hugo.
I use this code from time to time and I totally overlooked this.
Have you checked all options that the sample contains?
Hans,
I have just checked that these line breakings loose a character in all
options.
The next sample displays the issue clearly:
\startluacode
--local shared = {
--start = 1,
--length = 1,
--left = false,
--right = false,
--}
local shared = {
start = 1,
length = 1,
before = utf.char(0xB7),
after = nil,
left = false,
right = false,
}
-- languages.hyphenators.traditional.installmethod("sha",
-- function(dictionary,word,n)
-- local t = { }
-- for i=1,#word do
-- t[i] = shared
-- end
-- return t
-- end
-- )
-- or more efficient when used often:
-- local all = { }
-- for i=1,512 do
-- all[i] = shared
-- end
-- languages.hyphenators.traditional.installmethod("sha",
-- function(dictionary,word,n)
-- return all
-- end
-- )
-- or more obscure:
-- local all = table.setmetatableindex({ }, function(t,k)
-- t[k] = shared
-- return shared
-- end)
--
-- languages.hyphenators.traditional.installmethod("sha",
-- function(dictionary,word,n)
-- return all
-- end
-- )
-- or just (lua is fast enough anyway)
local all = table.setmetatableindex({ }, function(t,k)
return shared
end)
languages.hyphenators.traditional.installmethod("sha",
function(dictionary,word,n)
return all
end
)
\stopluacode
\definehyphenationfeatures
[sha]
[characters=all,
alternative=sha]
\unexpanded\def\sha#1%
{\begingroup
\sethyphenationfeatures[sha]%
#1%
\endgroup}
\setuphyphenation[method=traditional]
%
% \unexpanded\def\sha#1%
% {\begingroup
% \sethyphenationfeatures[sha]%
% \setuphyphenation[method=traditional]%
% #1%
% \endgroup}
\starttext
\hyphenatedword{\sha{8b2f3c087046c3943ace0dc4f958ef2138e58a51b40e%
ef6fab6fa1aeb845cc257a410ab1b914bc399b4293f%
31c76fc2c73e5be5ea4d329f9e6820984688efec2}}
\stoptext
Are we missing something or is this a bug?
what do you expect as result? (maybe try \righthyphenmin=1)
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Re: [NTG-context] Bug in verbatim wrapping examples on wiki
On 2/4/23 10:37, Pablo Rodriguez via ntg-context wrote:
> On 2/4/23 07:49, Hugo Landau via ntg-context wrote:
>> On this page of the wiki there is an example for wrapping long words,
>> like long hexadecimal strings:
>>
>> https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Wrapping
>>
>> This example is buggy because it deletes one character at the point that
>> it is wrapped.
>>
>> Anyone have a solution?
>
> Many thanks for your report, Hugo.
>
> I use this code from time to time and I totally overlooked this.
>
> Have you checked all options that the sample contains?
Hans,
I have just checked that these line breakings loose a character in all
options.
The next sample displays the issue clearly:
\startluacode
--local shared = {
--start = 1,
--length = 1,
--left = false,
--right = false,
--}
local shared = {
start = 1,
length = 1,
before = utf.char(0xB7),
after = nil,
left = false,
right = false,
}
-- languages.hyphenators.traditional.installmethod("sha",
-- function(dictionary,word,n)
-- local t = { }
-- for i=1,#word do
-- t[i] = shared
-- end
-- return t
-- end
-- )
-- or more efficient when used often:
-- local all = { }
-- for i=1,512 do
-- all[i] = shared
-- end
-- languages.hyphenators.traditional.installmethod("sha",
-- function(dictionary,word,n)
-- return all
-- end
-- )
-- or more obscure:
-- local all = table.setmetatableindex({ }, function(t,k)
-- t[k] = shared
-- return shared
-- end)
--
-- languages.hyphenators.traditional.installmethod("sha",
-- function(dictionary,word,n)
-- return all
-- end
-- )
-- or just (lua is fast enough anyway)
local all = table.setmetatableindex({ }, function(t,k)
return shared
end)
languages.hyphenators.traditional.installmethod("sha",
function(dictionary,word,n)
return all
end
)
\stopluacode
\definehyphenationfeatures
[sha]
[characters=all,
alternative=sha]
\unexpanded\def\sha#1%
{\begingroup
\sethyphenationfeatures[sha]%
#1%
\endgroup}
\setuphyphenation[method=traditional]
%
% \unexpanded\def\sha#1%
% {\begingroup
% \sethyphenationfeatures[sha]%
% \setuphyphenation[method=traditional]%
% #1%
% \endgroup}
\starttext
\hyphenatedword{\sha{8b2f3c087046c3943ace0dc4f958ef2138e58a51b40e%
ef6fab6fa1aeb845cc257a410ab1b914bc399b4293f%
31c76fc2c73e5be5ea4d329f9e6820984688efec2}}
\stoptext
Are we missing something or is this a bug?
Many thanks for your help,
Pablo
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[NTG-context] Is the Society of Biblical Literature (SBL) style files for ConTeXt incompatible with \setupinteraction[state=start]?
When I am using the SBL ConTeXt files for citations, if I add a line
`\setupinteraction[state=start` my code starts complaining:
Undefined control sequence \currentbtxloctext
\16>:btx:sbl:cite:inline
#1->\fastsetup {\s!btx :\s!cite :concat}\fastsetup
{btx:sbl:cite:lefttext}\begingroup \letbtxparameter {punct}\empty \def
\currentbtxcitealternative {inline}\def \currentbtxcategory {\btxfield
{category}}\def \currentbtxloctext
{\btxparameter {loctex
\normalexpanded
\Word {\fastsetup {btx:sbl:cite:inline}
}\doif {\btxparameter {righttext}}{\empty } {\btxperiod }
\strc_constructions_register_yes
...
Is this package incompatible with interaction?
--Joel
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Re: [NTG-context] TUG 2023
On 04/01/2023 16:50, Thomas A. Schmitz via ntg-context wrote: Hi everybody, an excellent year 2023 to all of you - I hesitate to say "it can only get better from 2022." That's what we thought last year, and boy were we wrong and did it get worse... Let's hope that this year will be more peaceful and less pandemic... But to my topic: the official announcement for TUG 2023 is out. It will be in Bonn, Germany, in a building literally (literally!) just across the street from my university office. So I feel somewhat motivated to go and give a talk on ConTeXt and spread the word. Since I'm a simple user and no developer, I'm a bit hesitant though: is any of the developers going (Hans?)? Since the public will be 99 % LaTeX-centric I think you need not be afraid there: there will be a decent amount of generic stuff and a good number of plain TeX experts, I suspect. Yes, LaTeX tends to be the most popular TeX flavour in the talks, but I think overall it's much more varied than you are imagining! Joseph ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : https://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] TUG 2023
Hi everybody, an excellent year 2023 to all of you - I hesitate to say "it can only get better from 2022." That's what we thought last year, and boy were we wrong and did it get worse... Let's hope that this year will be more peaceful and less pandemic... But to my topic: the official announcement for TUG 2023 is out. It will be in Bonn, Germany, in a building literally (literally!) just across the street from my university office. So I feel somewhat motivated to go and give a talk on ConTeXt and spread the word. Since I'm a simple user and no developer, I'm a bit hesitant though: is any of the developers going (Hans?)? Since the public will be 99 % LaTeX-centric: I had the idea of showing (off) how ConTeXt can typeset xml and produce different outputs from the same source (similar to what I've done in Bassenge in 2019). Those of you who have been to TUG conferences before: would that be of interest even to people who know little to nothing about ConTeXt yet are familiar with other forms of TeX? I guess I just what to get a feeling what to expect at a TUG conference. All best wishes Thomas ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : https://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Ajami script
On Sun, Jan 1, 2023 at 2:14 PM BPJ via ntg-context wrote: It's a bit confusing because the word ʿajamī simply means anything written > in a non-Arabic language with Arabic script. Africa is certainly not the > only place where that term has been used. It is also the case that Arabic > script has been used to write West African languages for very many > centuries. There is no way that guy can have grown up there and not know > that so I don't understand what this article is up to. Possibly this is a > separate adaptation using its own conventions for writing the local > language. Probably just pop-sci sensationalism coupled with some rather > severe mis-/non-understanding on the part of the article author. > I grew up in Northern New Mexico and now live in Canada, so know that "educational" efforts which suppressed non-European languages and writing systems were too often imposed on indigenous peoples in N. America. It would not surprise me to learn that some West African kids were never exposed to "anything written in a non-Arabic language with Arabic script". -- George N. White III ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : https://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Ajami script
It's a bit confusing because the word ʿajamī simply means anything written in a non-Arabic language with Arabic script. Africa is certainly not the only place where that term has been used. It is also the case that Arabic script has been used to write West African languages for very many centuries. There is no way that guy can have grown up there and not know that so I don't understand what this article is up to. Possibly this is a separate adaptation using its own conventions for writing the local language. Probably just pop-sci sensationalism coupled with some rather severe mis-/non-understanding on the part of the article author. Den sön 1 jan. 2023 14:30Alain Delmotte via ntg-context skrev: > Le 1/01/2023 à 11:03, Henning Hraban Ramm via ntg-context a > écrit : > > Am 01.01.23 um 10:21 schrieb Hans Hagen via ntg-context: > >> On 12/31/2022 3:06 PM, Henning Hraban Ramm via > >> ntg-context wrote: > >>> I just read this: > >>> > https://www.bu.edu/articles/2022/fallou-ngom-discovers-ajami-african-writing-system/ > >>> > >>> > >>> And now I’d like to know if ConTeXt is capable of > >>> typesetting this variant of Arabic. (Just out of > >>> curiosity, I can’t read any Arabic and don’t know any > >>> African language.) > >> Afaiks that script has been known fro a while: > > > > I also thought I heard about it several years ago. The > > article makes it sound like news, that might be the > > perspective of the US scholars or a necessary means to get > > funded. But the oldest sources quoted in Wikipedia are > > from 1971 and 1982. > > The arabic alphabet was also used from the XIth century to > write swahili and some bantu languages around Tanzania and > Kenya (Mozambic, Malawi, Uganda, east of Kongo, Sudan). > > There are articles in Wikipedia. > > https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alphabet_arabe_swahili > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swahili_language#Orthography > > also: https://www.mustgo.com/worldlanguages/swahili/ see > "writing" > https://omniglot.com/writing/swahili.htm > > >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ajami_script > >> so when there are proper fonts, as: > >> https://software.sil.org/scheherazade/ > >> https://software.sil.org/harmattan/ > > > > I don’t dare to ask about the Husayni fonts... ;) > > > >> it should be doable. The script is supported by unicode. > >> I get the impression that the arabic scipt is mostly used > >> getting the way the languages sounds on paper so vowels > >> matter. There is mentioning of transliteration and so > >> that might need some specific support. Nothing tex > >> (context) can't do but only users and usage can prove that. > > > > Thank you for your insights! > > Of course it’s a matter of use(r)s. > > > > All the best for a happy new year! > > Hraban > > > > > ___ > > > > > If your question is of interest to others as well, please > > add an entry to the Wiki! > > > > maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / > > https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context > > webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / > > http://context.aanhet.net > > archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ > > wiki : https://contextgarden.net > > > ___ > > > > > ___ > If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to > the Wiki! > > maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / > https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context > webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net > archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ > wiki : https://contextgarden.net > > ___ > ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : https://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] extra hyphen in underscore hyphenation
On 12/8/22 13:14, Hans Hagen via ntg-context wrote:
> On 12/8/2022 12:33 PM, Pablo Rodriguez via ntg-context wrote:
>> [...]
>> What am I missing here?
>
> \setuplanguage
> [explicitrighthyphenchar=-1]
Many thanks for your fast reply, Hans.
I’m afraid it doesn’t work here:
\startluacode
function document.addfunnyhyphen(tfmdata)
local underscore = utf.byte("_")
local char = tfmdata.characters[underscore]
if not char then return end
tfmdata.characters[0xFE000] = {
width= 0,
height = 0,
depth= 0,
commands = {
{ "right", -char.width },
{ "down", char.depth },
{ "slot", 1, underscore },
}
}
end
utilities.sequencers.appendaction("aftercopyingcharacters",
"after","document.addfunnyhyphen")
\stopluacode
\definehyphenationfeatures
[underscore]
[righthyphenchar="FE000]
\setuphyphenation[method=traditional]%
\sethyphenationfeatures[underscore]%
\setuplanguage
[explicitrighthyphenchar=-1]
\mainlanguage[es]
\starttext
\startTEXpage[offset=1em, width=4em]
\hsize\zeropoint\tt
\hyphenatedword{legibility-legible}
\stopTEXpage
\stoptext
Results are the same with "\mainlanguage[es]" or "\mainlanguage[nl]".
If "\mainlanguage" is placed after "\setuplanguage", the extra unwanted
hyphen appears.
If "\mainlanguage" is placed before "\setuplanguage", hyphenation for
the second word doesn’t work at all (and the extra unwanted hyphen
appears in my actual document).
I don’t know what I’m missing here and it seems to be a picky issue to
provide a MWE.
Many thanks for your help,
Pablo
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Re: [NTG-context] Why are my captions overlapping next text in combinations?
Joel via ntg-context schrieb am 25.11.2022 um 23:25:
I have some combinations used throughout my document like this:
\starttext
\startcombination[4*2]
{%
\framed[width=.25\textwidth, height=.25\textwidth]{}%
}{%
\strut word \\ \thinrule\hairline\hairline%
}%
\stopcombination
\input knuth
\stoptext
This makes a box, then displays a word underneath, and then some blank
lines.
The problem I'm having is many times the caption text is covering up
whatever appears after. In this minimal example, I tried showing the
problem, but somehow this is rendering find, not covering the \input
knuth text.
Also, if I add more more items to the combination, the second row
appears above the first row!
My document is rather complex, so I couldn't find a way to simplify it
enough to get a minimal example to reveal the problem that is appearing.
Any ideas what might be causing the caption text to overlap and cover
whatever appears after it?
Do you other combinations also pass wrong values for the number of rows
and columns like in your example above?
Wolfgang
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[NTG-context] Why are my captions overlapping next text in combinations?
I have some combinations used throughout my document like this:
\starttext
\startcombination[4*2] {%
\framed[width=.25\textwidth, height=.25\textwidth]{}%
}{%
\strut word \\ \thinrule\hairline\hairline%
}%
\stopcombination \input knuth
\stoptext
This makes a box, then displays a word underneath, and then some blank lines.
The problem I'm having is many times the caption text is covering up whatever
appears after. In this minimal example, I tried showing the problem, but
somehow this is rendering find, not covering the \input knuth text.
Also, if I add more more items to the combination, the second row appears above
the first row!
My document is rather complex, so I couldn't find a way to simplify it enough
to get a minimal example to reveal the problem that is appearing.
Any ideas what might be causing the caption text to overlap and cover whatever
appears after it?
--Joel
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Re: [NTG-context] About macro numberstriped ()
Hi Hans,
When the rectangles are not identical, how to have the same type of
hatching in both ?
Thanks.
Fabrice
\starttext
\startlinecorrection[blank]
\startmidaligned
\switchtobodyfont[9pt]
\startMPcode
path p, q, r, b ;
p := unitsquare xyscaled (4cm,4cm) ;
z[0] = (2cm,0cm) ;
z[1] = (2cm,4cm) ;
z[2] = (0cm,2cm) ;
q := llcorner p--z[0]--z[1]--z[2]--cycle ;
r := unitsquare xyscaled (1cm,1cm) shifted(0,3cm) ;
b := unitsquare xyscaled (3cm,3cm) shifted(1cm,0) ;
draw r
withpattern image (
draw (llcorner unitsquare -- urcorner unitsquare) scaled 5mm ;
% how to get the corner dots
)
withpatternscale 1/8
withpen pencircle scaled 1pt
withcolor cyan;
;
draw b
withpattern image (
draw (llcorner unitsquare -- urcorner unitsquare) scaled 5mm ;
% how to get the corner dots
)
withpatternscale 1/16
withpen pencircle scaled 1pt
withcolor cyan;
;
draw p;
draw b;
draw r;
label.llft("D", p) ;
label.lrt("C", p) ;
label.ulft("A", p) ;
label.urt("B", p) ;
label.urt("P", lrcorner r) ;
label.lft("Q", llcorner r) ;
label.top("M", urcorner r) ;
\stopMPcode
\stopmidaligned
\stoplinecorrection
\stoptext
Le mer. 28 sept. 2022 à 21:05, Henning Hraban Ramm via ntg-context <
ntg-context@ntg.nl> a écrit :
> Am 28.09.22 um 15:29 schrieb Hans Hagen via ntg-context:
> > On 9/28/2022 3:11 PM, Fabrice Couvreur via ntg-context wrote:
> >> PS : What is the exact meaning of the word "blobs" because my English
> >> is average ?
> > in order to get 'lines' you need to fill the two opposing corners with
> > "blobs of ink"
>
> Otherwise, a BLOB is a “binary large object”, e.g. if you save image
> data to a database.
>
> Hraban
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Re: [NTG-context] About macro numberstriped ()
Am 28.09.22 um 15:29 schrieb Hans Hagen via ntg-context: On 9/28/2022 3:11 PM, Fabrice Couvreur via ntg-context wrote: PS : What is the exact meaning of the word "blobs" because my English is average ? in order to get 'lines' you need to fill the two opposing corners with "blobs of ink" Otherwise, a BLOB is a “binary large object”, e.g. if you save image data to a database. Hraban ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : https://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] About macro numberstriped ()
On 9/28/2022 3:11 PM, Fabrice Couvreur via ntg-context wrote: Hi Hans, Thank you for this solution which is an approach that I did not know. Fabrice PS : What is the exact meaning of the word "blobs" because my English is average ? in order to get 'lines' you need to fill the two opposing corners with "blobs of ink" Hans (who's dutch is better than his english) - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | www.pragma-ade.nl | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : https://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] About macro numberstriped ()
Hi Hans,
Thank you for this solution which is an approach that I did not know.
Fabrice
PS : What is the exact meaning of the word "blobs" because my English is
average ?
Le mar. 27 sept. 2022 à 22:04, Hans Hagen via ntg-context <
ntg-context@ntg.nl> a écrit :
> On 9/27/2022 7:49 PM, Fabrice Couvreur via ntg-context wrote:
> > Hello,
> > I notice a strange behavior of the macro numberstriped ( ).
> > Thanks.
> > Fabrice
> >
> > \starttext
> > \switchtobodyfont[9pt]
> > \startMPcode
> >
> >path p, q, r, b ;
> >p := unitsquare xyscaled (4cm,4cm) ;
> >z[0] = (2cm,0cm) ;
> >z[1] = (2cm,4cm) ;
> >z[2] = (0cm,2cm) ;
> >q := llcorner p--z[0]--z[1]--z[2]--cycle ;
> >r := unitsquare xyscaled (1cm,1cm) shifted(0,3cm) ;
> >b := unitsquare xyscaled (3cm,3cm) shifted(1cm,0) ;
> >draw p ;
> >draw r withcolor red;
> >draw r numberstriped (.25,20,5) withcolor magenta ;
> >draw b numberstriped (.25,20,5) withcolor magenta ;
> >label.llft("D", p) ;
> >label.lrt("C", p) ;
> >label.ulft("A", p) ;
> >label.urt("B", p) ;
> >label.urt("P", lrcorner r) ;
> >label.lft("Q", llcorner r) ;
> >label.top("M", urcorner r) ;
> >
> >\stopMPcode
> > \stoptext
> you need to find a volunteer to make the pattern have the two corner blobs
>
> \starttext
>
> \startMPcode
> path p, q, r, b ;
> path p ; p := unitsquare xyscaled (4cm,4cm) ;
> draw p ;
> draw p
> withpattern image (
> draw (llcorner unitsquare -- urcorner unitsquare) scaled 5mm ;
> % how to get the corner dots
> )
> withpatternscale 1/16
> withpen pencircle scaled 1mm
> ;
> \stopMPcode
>
> \stoptext
>
>
> -
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>Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands
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Re: [NTG-context] Hyphenation in multi-language projects
Isn’t there a way to list exceptions that will work in *all* languages?
Steffen
> Am 14.09.2022 um 09:19 schrieb Denis Maier via ntg-context
> :
>
>> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
>> Von: ntg-context Im Auftrag von Max
>> Chernoff via ntg-context
>> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 14. September 2022 08:51
>> An: ntg-context@ntg.nl
>> Cc: Max Chernoff ; cont...@st.estfiles.de
>> Betreff: Re: [NTG-context] Hyphenation in multi-language projects
>>
>> Hi Steffen,
>>
>>> … \replaceword should be the correct way for proper hyphenation??
>>
>> Well I'm not sure if it's "correct", but it seems to work. Based on my
>> testing,
>> having three subsequent sets of groups ({A}{B}{C}) is converted to a
>> discretionary. The discretionary hyphen "\-" is equivalent to the Plain TeX
>> command "\discretionary{-}{}{}", so
>>
>> \replaceword[hyphenations][steffen][steff{-}{}{}en]
>>
>> acts just like "steff\-en". TeX won't otherwise hyphenate a word with
>> discretionaries, so this means that "steff-en" will be the only allowable
>> hyphenation.
>
> Just one caveat though. IIRC, Hans has mentioned that this kind of stuff is
> slower than using the hyphenation engine directly. (That's why he has
> reimplemented the ligature suppression mechanism on the hyphenation level,
> rather than acting on the node list.)
>
> Best,
> Denis
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Re: [NTG-context] Hyphenation in multi-language projects
> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
> Von: ntg-context Im Auftrag von Max
> Chernoff via ntg-context
> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 14. September 2022 08:51
> An: ntg-context@ntg.nl
> Cc: Max Chernoff ; cont...@st.estfiles.de
> Betreff: Re: [NTG-context] Hyphenation in multi-language projects
>
> Hi Steffen,
>
> > … \replaceword should be the correct way for proper hyphenation??
>
> Well I'm not sure if it's "correct", but it seems to work. Based on my
> testing,
> having three subsequent sets of groups ({A}{B}{C}) is converted to a
> discretionary. The discretionary hyphen "\-" is equivalent to the Plain TeX
> command "\discretionary{-}{}{}", so
>
>\replaceword[hyphenations][steffen][steff{-}{}{}en]
>
> acts just like "steff\-en". TeX won't otherwise hyphenate a word with
> discretionaries, so this means that "steff-en" will be the only allowable
> hyphenation.
Just one caveat though. IIRC, Hans has mentioned that this kind of stuff is
slower than using the hyphenation engine directly. (That's why he has
reimplemented the ligature suppression mechanism on the hyphenation level,
rather than acting on the node list.)
Best,
Denis
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Re: [NTG-context] Hyphenation in multi-language projects
Hi Steffen,
> … \replaceword should be the correct way for proper hyphenation??
Well I'm not sure if it's "correct", but it seems to work. Based on my
testing, having three subsequent sets of groups ({A}{B}{C}) is converted
to a discretionary. The discretionary hyphen "\-" is equivalent to the
Plain TeX command "\discretionary{-}{}{}", so
\replaceword[hyphenations][steffen][steff{-}{}{}en]
acts just like "steff\-en". TeX won't otherwise hyphenate a word with
discretionaries, so this means that "steff-en" will be the only allowable
hyphenation.
-- Max
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Re: [NTG-context] String substitution using regular expressions and backreferences
On 8/25/2022 9:44 PM, Thangalin via ntg-context wrote:
I've attempted to apply Wolfgang's subtle suggestion of using Lua to parse
the input document using a regular expression via lpeg.replacer. The
replacement itself works fine; however, in doing so the XML document
structure is converted to text, which means that it is no longer possible
to "flush" the XML for further processing as XML. The result is that any
unresolved XML tags are written verbatim to the PDF:
https://i.stack.imgur.com/9ZFND.png
There are two other issues with this approach. First is efficiency. Second
is that the processing function would have to be called for every XML
element to capture the replacement.
My original post asked about applying regex word substitution in a ConTeXt
way, such as:
\definereplacement[SubstMac][ match={Mc([A-Z].*)}, replace={\Mac \\1} ]
\definereplacement[SubstPostmeridian][ match={[Pp]\\.[Mm]\\.},
replace={\cap{pm}} ]
That seems like the cleanest approach because it would work on top of XML
or any other source document. Nevertheless, here is what I tried, which
partially works:
\startbuffer[main]
“Mr. McAnulty, I presume?”
Regular text. Irregular text.
\stopbuffer
\startxmlsetups xml:xhtml
\xmlsetsetup{\xmldocument}{*}{-}
\xmlsetsetup{\xmldocument}{html|p|em}{xml:*}\stopxmlsetups
\startxmlsetups xml:html
\startdocument
\xmlflush{#1}
\stopdocument\stopxmlsetups
% Paragraphs are followed by a paragraph break, but only if not
nested.\startxmlsetups xml:p
\xmlfunction{#1}{p}
\par\stopxmlsetups
\startxmlsetups xml:em
\dontleavehmode{\em\xmlflush{#1}}\stopxmlsetups
\startluacode
function xml.functions.p( t )
rep = { [1] = { "McAnulty", "\\Mac Anulty" } }
x = lpeg.replacer( rep ):match( tostring( xml.text( t ) ) )
buffers.assign( "p", context( x ) )
context.getbuffer{ "p" }
end\stopluacode
\xmlregistersetup{xml:xhtml}
\def\Mac{%
% Determine the sizes of 'M' and 'c'.
\newbox\MacMBox%
\setbox\MacMBox\hbox{M}%
\newbox\MacCBox%
\setbox\MacCBox\hbox{c}%
%
% Cheat to dynamically derive the kerning size by putting Mc in a box.
%
\newbox\MacKernBox%
\setbox\MacKernBox\hbox{\inframed[offset=\zeropoint, width=fit]{Mc}}%
\def\MacDelta{\dimexpr\wd\MacKernBox-\wd\MacMBox-\wd\MacCBox\relax}%
\def\MacUWidth{\dimexpr\wd\MacCBox-.75\MacDelta\relax}%
\def\MacRule{\vrule width \MacUWidth height .04em depth \zeropoint \relax}%
\def\MacKern{\dimexpr\wd\MacKernBox-\wd\MacMBox-\wd\MacCBox\relax}%
\def\MacHeight{\dimexpr\ht\MacMBox-\ht\MacCBox\relax}%
%
% Write Mc, where c has a macron, to the document.
%
M{%
\dontleavehmode{\raisebox{\MacHeight}\hbox{c}}%
\kern-1.04\MacUWidth
\MacRule
\kern.08\MacUWidth
}%
}%
\xmlprocessbuffer{main}{main}{}
As shown in the screen shot, this doesn't correctly handle nested XML
elements.
Any ideas on what approach to take to perform a string replacement in
ConTeXt?
Best stay at the xml end ...
\startbuffer[main]
“Mr. McAnulty, I presume?”
Regular text. Irregular text.
\stopbuffer
\startxmlsetups xml:xhtml
\xmlsetsetup{\xmldocument}{*}{-}
\xmlsetsetup{\xmldocument}{html|p|em}{xml:*}
\stopxmlsetups
\startxmlsetups xml:html
\xmlflush{#1}
\stopxmlsetups
\startxmlsetups xml:p
\xmlfunction{#1}{p}
\xmlcontext{#1}
\par
\stopxmlsetups
\startxmlsetups xml:em
\dontleavehmode{\em\xmlflush{#1}}
\stopxmlsetups
\startluacode
local rep = lpeg.replacer { [1] = { "McAnulty", "\\Mac Anulty" } }
function xml.functions.p(t)
local dt = t.dt
for i=1,#dt do
local di = dt[i]
if type(di) == "string" then
dt[i] = lpeg.match(rep,di)
end
end
end
\stopluacode
\xmlregistersetup{xml:xhtml}
\startdocument
\xmlprocessbuffer{main}{main}{}
\stopdocument
But this is more fun and probably also more reliable:
\startbuffer[main]
“Mr. McAnulty, I presume?”
Regular text. Irregular text.
\stopbuffer
\startxmlsetups xml:xhtml
\xmlsetsetup{\xmldocument}{*}{-}
\xmlsetsetup{\xmldocument}{html|p|em}{xml:*}
\stopxmlsetups
\startxmlsetups xml:html
\xmlflush{#1}
\stopxmlsetups
\startxmlsetups xml:p
\xmlcontext{#1}
\par
\stopxmlsetups
\startxmlsetups xml:em
\dontleavehmode{\em\xmlflush{#1}}
\stopxmlsetups
\xmlregistersetup{xml:xhtml}
\usemodule[gimmicks] % in latest uploads
\chardef\MacAnulty = \getprivateglyphslot{MacAnulty}
\startsetups [box:mcanulty:\number\MacAnulty]
\Mac Anulty
\stopsetups
\registerboxglyph category {mcanulty} unicode \MacAnulty \relax
\startluacode
fonts.handlers.otf.addfeature {
name= "mcanulty",
type= "ligature",
nocheck = true,
data= {
[fonts.constructors.privateslots.MacAnulty] = {
"M", "c", "A", "n", &quo
Re: [NTG-context] String substitution using regular expressions and backreferences
I've attempted to apply Wolfgang's subtle suggestion of using Lua to parse
the input document using a regular expression via lpeg.replacer. The
replacement itself works fine; however, in doing so the XML document
structure is converted to text, which means that it is no longer possible
to "flush" the XML for further processing as XML. The result is that any
unresolved XML tags are written verbatim to the PDF:
https://i.stack.imgur.com/9ZFND.png
There are two other issues with this approach. First is efficiency. Second
is that the processing function would have to be called for every XML
element to capture the replacement.
My original post asked about applying regex word substitution in a ConTeXt
way, such as:
\definereplacement[SubstMac][ match={Mc([A-Z].*)}, replace={\Mac \\1} ]
\definereplacement[SubstPostmeridian][ match={[Pp]\\.[Mm]\\.},
replace={\cap{pm}} ]
That seems like the cleanest approach because it would work on top of XML
or any other source document. Nevertheless, here is what I tried, which
partially works:
\startbuffer[main]
“Mr. McAnulty, I presume?”
Regular text. Irregular text.
\stopbuffer
\startxmlsetups xml:xhtml
\xmlsetsetup{\xmldocument}{*}{-}
\xmlsetsetup{\xmldocument}{html|p|em}{xml:*}\stopxmlsetups
\startxmlsetups xml:html
\startdocument
\xmlflush{#1}
\stopdocument\stopxmlsetups
% Paragraphs are followed by a paragraph break, but only if not
nested.\startxmlsetups xml:p
\xmlfunction{#1}{p}
\par\stopxmlsetups
\startxmlsetups xml:em
\dontleavehmode{\em\xmlflush{#1}}\stopxmlsetups
\startluacode
function xml.functions.p( t )
rep = { [1] = { "McAnulty", "\\Mac Anulty" } }
x = lpeg.replacer( rep ):match( tostring( xml.text( t ) ) )
buffers.assign( "p", context( x ) )
context.getbuffer{ "p" }
end\stopluacode
\xmlregistersetup{xml:xhtml}
\def\Mac{%
% Determine the sizes of 'M' and 'c'.
\newbox\MacMBox%
\setbox\MacMBox\hbox{M}%
\newbox\MacCBox%
\setbox\MacCBox\hbox{c}%
%
% Cheat to dynamically derive the kerning size by putting Mc in a box.
%
\newbox\MacKernBox%
\setbox\MacKernBox\hbox{\inframed[offset=\zeropoint, width=fit]{Mc}}%
\def\MacDelta{\dimexpr\wd\MacKernBox-\wd\MacMBox-\wd\MacCBox\relax}%
\def\MacUWidth{\dimexpr\wd\MacCBox-.75\MacDelta\relax}%
\def\MacRule{\vrule width \MacUWidth height .04em depth \zeropoint \relax}%
\def\MacKern{\dimexpr\wd\MacKernBox-\wd\MacMBox-\wd\MacCBox\relax}%
\def\MacHeight{\dimexpr\ht\MacMBox-\ht\MacCBox\relax}%
%
% Write Mc, where c has a macron, to the document.
%
M{%
\dontleavehmode{\raisebox{\MacHeight}\hbox{c}}%
\kern-1.04\MacUWidth
\MacRule
\kern.08\MacUWidth
}%
}%
\xmlprocessbuffer{main}{main}{}
As shown in the screen shot, this doesn't correctly handle nested XML
elements.
Any ideas on what approach to take to perform a string replacement in
ConTeXt?
Thanks again!
[Your] input is XML which means a lot more can be done than your simple TeX
> based example demonstrates.
>
> Wolfgang
>
>
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[NTG-context] Suggestions for project structures, environment inheritance, local overrides
Hi everyone One of my current main projects where I use ConTeXt is typesetting journal articles from xml sources. As the journal appears only online, we've decided to publish each article individually. I have a working setup, but I occasionally ponder whether I could make things more smootly. Currently, my folder structure looks roughly like this : 2022 -- _assets -- article1 source md xml pdf html -- article2 etc. Usually, I receive Word files that get transformed via pandoc to markdown, polished, and from there to XML. HTML is produced via XSLT, PDF via ConTeXt. Transformations are performed with the help of a makefile. The _assets folder contains a bunch of helper files, scripts, and two environment files used by ConTeXt : jats.tex -> contains the setup for JATS XML layout.tex -> contains layout settings Now, this mostly works, but I sometimes struggle with things like overrides/additions for specific articles. Say, I have the global definitions, but I need to make small changes for one specific article? Or, I need to add something to one specific article, but I don't want to add this to the files. I guess my question is something like this : - How could a painless solution for such a scenario look like? - Should you just load multiple environment files and override earlier settings? (How would that work with xml setups?) Best, Denis ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : https://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Keep the right margin in [nothyphenated, flushleft] columns
Dear list,
I am typesetting [nothyphenated,flushleft] text in two columns. Some words
stick through the right margin of the left column, sometimes even
overlapping the right column. How can I make Context obey the right margin?
The MWE is below.
Here is the output PDF:
https://live.contextgarden.net/cgi-bin/result.cgi?id=UnSfnS
Best regards,
Marcin
\setupalign[nothyphenated,flushleft]
\starttext
\startitemize[n,nowhite,columns,two]
% The word '(boków' sticks through the right
% margin of the left column.
\item {\bf Wielokąt} to figura na płaszczyźnie,
której brzeg składa się z~odcinków
({\bf boków wielokąta}).
Końce boków nazywamy wierzchołkami wielokąta.
Czasem wyróżniamy jeden bok,
nazywając go podstawą wielokąta.
\stopitemize
\stoptext
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Re: [NTG-context] Forbid footnotes from splitting across pages
Dear Pablo,
Many thanks and apologies for top-posting: my normal email client is currently
down.
I thought of something similar; after some testing, this is what I finally came
up with:
\setupwhitespace[medium]
\setupnotation[footnote]
[before={%
\startframedtext[none][frame=on,offset=none,width=\textwidth,style={\setupwhitespace[medium]}]},
after={\stopframedtext\blank[medium]}]
\starttext
\input ward\
\startfootnote
\input knuth
\stopfootnote{}
\dorecurse{3}{\input ward\ }
\startfootnote
\input knuth
\stopfootnote{}
\dorecurse{2}{\input ward\ }
\startfootnote
\input knuth
\stopfootnote{}
\dorecurse{3}{\input ward\ }
\startfootnote
\input knuth
\stopfootnote{}
\stoptext
It works but there must be a cleaner way..
Observation: The first argument of \startframedtext is important, otherwise
too much extra space is generated -- not sure why but the
\startframedtext[none] suppresses it.
Endnotes are evil
But the reason for this is that I'm converting to WORD using Abobe and
NitroPDF, and I'm trying to make things as easy for the editor of the book as
easy as possible. The conversion will look right but the dozens of footnotes
will, of course, be unlinked. If no footnote crosses the page it will be easier
to edit in WORD -- which I'm not touching!
Thanks again.
Best wishes
Idris
--
Idris Samawi Hamid, Professor
Department of Philosophy
Colorado State University
Fort Collins, CO 80523
From: ntg-context on behalf of Pablo Rodriguez via
ntg-context
Sent: Wednesday, August 3, 2022 7:47 AM
To: Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس سماوي حامد via ntg-context
Cc: Pablo Rodriguez
Subject: Re: [NTG-context] Forbid footnotes from splitting across pages
** Caution: EXTERNAL Sender **
On 8/3/22 03:05, Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس سماوي حامد via ntg-context wrote:
> Dear gang,
>
> Objectives:
>
> i) Prevent footnotes from splitting across a page or pagebreak
Dear Idris,
I wonder whether a \framed[offset=none, frame=off, width=\textwidth]
would make sense here.
At least, it would prevent page breaks.
> ii) Make sure that the footnote reference number in the main text is
> always on the same page as the footnote.
\setupnote[footnote][split=verystrict, scope=text] might help here.
But it cannot achieve what is practically impossible:
\setupnote[footnote][split=verystrict, scope=text]
\starttext
\dorecurse{25}
{ab cd ef\footnote{\input{knuth}}}
\stoptext
I know that this depends from the publisher, but in these cases endnotes
are a way more viable option.
Just in case it might help,
Pablo
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