Re: [NTG-context] Structure of titles in MkIV
Hello All,
First, let me say that the semantics of Book-making can be confusing as
certain terms are used differently by different professionals.
What has made it worse these terms have been convoluted by the
computational adaptation of Book-making.
A book generally has three divisions frontmatter, backmatter, and main
text/body.
These are made up of parts. What belongs in these divisions are dependent on
your field,
tradition, and publishers style!
Basically, Alan is on the mark.
Second, Michal TeX and ConTeXt has a section leveling. That is part is the
highest level. and chapters are always
part of a part. So, you want the effect you need, you should either enclose the
Prologue and
Epilogue in the frontmatter and backmatter parts respectively, (See MWE below)
or wrap them in a part environment.
BUT, Michal I believe has a point. Or should I say has come across a FLAW,
according to my view of things.
ConTeXt should warn that once you use a chapter the part command should not be
mixed. That is if one uses parts
that Chapters must be embedded a Part!
I adjusted Michals MWE and we get basically, what he expects, that is Prologue
and Epilogue on the same
level. But, without it surrounding part the Epilogue is set at an level that is
under Part A-level the Epilogue.
This would mean that the \stoppart for Part A or my inserted Part B is not
being recognize and the
sectioning Counter being adjusted properly! Or an error should be flagged!
Yes, there are easy work arounds!
This FLAW is intrinsic to the intelligence of ConTeXt. Most of us would be
using front- and backmatter, sectioning commands,
numbering schemes and thereby avoiding it. But, ConTeXt should warn of the
false behaviour.
Below I have a MWE to show the FLAW.
MWE:
\starttext
\placecontent
%\startfrontmatter % uncomment line to show what you would expect
\startchapter[title=Prologue]
\input knuth
\stopchapter
%\stopfrontmatter % uncomment line to show what you would expect
\startpart[title={Part A}]
\startchapter[title=One]
\input knuth
\stopchapter
\stoppart
% FLAW: sectioned under Part A should expect sectioning level 1
% or throw error that part needed here!
\startchapter[title={not at top level}]
\input knuth
\stopchapter
\startpart[title={Part B}]
\startchapter[title=One]
\input knuth
\stopchapter
\stoppart
% \startbackmatter % uncomment line to show what you would expect
% FLAW: sectioned under Part B should expect sectioning level 1
% or throw error that part needed here!
\startchapter[title=Epilogue]
\input knuth
\stopchapter
%\stopbackmatter % uncomment line to show what you would expect
\stoptext
regards
Keith.
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Re: [NTG-context] Starting with bibliography / international entries
On Tue, 14 Oct 2014 14:06:59 +0200 Ulrike Fischer ne...@nililand.de wrote: You first has to decide do I want title_variant_a always, or only if the main language of the document is english, or only if an option is set or only if What should happen if the language of the document is in japanese, the bib-entry is a french book and there is a translated_chinese variant of the title? According to the APA style guide: If the original version of a non-English article is used as the source, cite the original version. Give the original title and, in brackets, the English translation. If an English translation of a non-English article is used as the source, cite the English translation. Give the English title without brackets. Other styles might specify differently. Hans and I are working (furiously) on the new mkiv bibliography subsystem. We have been discussing language (with Thomas as well). The title= will be typeset (and hyphenated) according to the language= field, if present; The rest of the bibliography list (and, for example) will be typeset using the document language. A global bibliography rendering option can modify this choice. Alan ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] (MKIV beta) APA citations: et al. incorrectly written
On Wed, 8 Oct 2014 16:12:43 +0200 Sander Maijers s.n.maij...@gmail.com wrote: My .bib file is being autogenerated by Mendeley, a reference manager, and changes often in terms of contents. That workflow seems incompatible with your solution. Furthermore, I may not let the authors appear in citations with all their names every time, it should be limited to the first time (the APA 6 rules, that I referred to). With your solution, 1 out of n citations would be correct, while in the current situation (without manual intervention) n-1 out of n would be correct (all but the first). Although it is not yet production ready, we are working on this issue with the new mkiv-bibliography subsystem. The rendering of citations and the rendering of bibliography lists can be quite complicated, as you are showing. I note a second issue here: As you are working with an autogenerated .bib file, you may have less control over its contents, so playing with the field contents is not a solution. Alan ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Starting with bibliography / international entries
Am Mon, 13 Oct 2014 18:22:09 +0200 schrieb Hans Hagen:
I found this about BibLaTeX / Babel:
http://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/28010/how-to-create-multilingual-english-japanese-bibliographies-with-biblatex-bib
It’s nearly the same problem as mine.
BibLaTeX 3.0 + Biber 2.0 are advertised to support this syntax:
Well actually (after a renumbering) one needs biblatex 4.0 and biber
3.0.
@COLLECTION{yanagida_zengaku_sosho_1975,
LANGID = {japanese},
EDITOR = {柳田聖山},
EDITOR_romanised = {Yanagida, Seizan},
TITLE = {禪學叢書},
TITLE_romanised = {Chūbun shuppansha},
TITLE_translated_english = {Collected Materials for the Study of Zen},
LOCATION = {京都},
LOCATION_romanised = {Kyōto},
LOCATION_translated_english = {Kyoto},
PUBLISHER = {中文出版社},
PUBLISHER_romanised = {Chūbun shuppansha},
DATE = {1974/1977}
}
… and extract the right version according to configuration.
Is there support for these constructed keys in ConTeXt?
sure, you can use any field you like and you can adapt yoru rendering
setups to use them
the problem is not so much to support variants of fields (although I
really dislike this mixed upper/lowercase mess)
You can write everything in lowercase if you want. The syntax only
expects the _ to separate the main field and the variant/language.
the main question is: how mixed is this used? are EDITOR and
EDITOR_whatever used at the same time?
You can. There are commands to choose a specific variant, but you
can also define fallbacks. So something like
Editor (Editor_translated) or Editor translated but fall back to
editor if it doesn't exist is possible.
The main problem is not to get lost in the variants/fallback chains.
Another problem is to get name lists right: After all it is possible
that only some authors needs to be romanised. But with the help of
the name hashes I was at the end able to do something like Müller
and 柳田聖山 (Yanagida, Seizan) ...
Smaller problems are how to write the names correctly -- after all
not everywhere in the world names follows the lastname, fistname
convention.
I had some longer discussion about this with the
biber/biblatex-maintainer:
https://github.com/plk/biblatex/issues/132
--
Ulrike Fischer
http://www.troubleshooting-tex.de/
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Re: [NTG-context] Starting with bibliography / international entries
On 10/14/2014 10:19 AM, Ulrike Fischer wrote:
Am Mon, 13 Oct 2014 18:22:09 +0200 schrieb Hans Hagen:
I found this about BibLaTeX / Babel:
http://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/28010/how-to-create-multilingual-english-japanese-bibliographies-with-biblatex-bib
It’s nearly the same problem as mine.
BibLaTeX 3.0 + Biber 2.0 are advertised to support this syntax:
Well actually (after a renumbering) one needs biblatex 4.0 and biber
3.0.
@COLLECTION{yanagida_zengaku_sosho_1975,
LANGID = {japanese},
EDITOR = {柳田聖山},
EDITOR_romanised = {Yanagida, Seizan},
TITLE = {禪學叢書},
TITLE_romanised = {Chūbun shuppansha},
TITLE_translated_english = {Collected Materials for the Study of Zen},
LOCATION = {京都},
LOCATION_romanised = {Kyōto},
LOCATION_translated_english = {Kyoto},
PUBLISHER = {中文出版社},
PUBLISHER_romanised = {Chūbun shuppansha},
DATE = {1974/1977}
}
… and extract the right version according to configuration.
Is there support for these constructed keys in ConTeXt?
sure, you can use any field you like and you can adapt yoru rendering
setups to use them
the problem is not so much to support variants of fields (although I
really dislike this mixed upper/lowercase mess)
You can write everything in lowercase if you want. The syntax only
expects the _ to separate the main field and the variant/language.
the main question is: how mixed is this used? are EDITOR and
EDITOR_whatever used at the same time?
You can. There are commands to choose a specific variant, but you
can also define fallbacks. So something like
Editor (Editor_translated) or Editor translated but fall back to
editor if it doesn't exist is possible.
The main problem is not to get lost in the variants/fallback chains.
That was my initial impression too. There are simply too many
combination possible. In such a case it makes more sense to tune the
rendering than to figure out all the options. So, in context speak that
would mean something:
\btxdoif {title} {
\btxspace
\btxflush{title}
\btxdoifelse {title_variant_b} {
\btxleftparenthesis
\btxflush{title_variant_b}
\btxrightparenthesis
} {
\btxdoif {title_variant_a} {
\btxleftparenthesis
\btxflush{title_variant_a}
\btxrightparenthesis
}
}
\btxperiod
}
Authors are of course somewhat more complex as there one needs to deal
with the way names are constructed. But even then, in such cases
adapting a few setups is not most work.
Another problem is to get name lists right: After all it is possible
that only some authors needs to be romanised. But with the help of
the name hashes I was at the end able to do something like Müller
and 柳田聖山 (Yanagida, Seizan) ...
so basically you order by a mix of name and romanized name (or romanized
name with name as fallback)?
Smaller problems are how to write the names correctly -- after all
not everywhere in the world names follows the lastname, fistname
convention.
yes, although if you use APA it might have rules for that (but that is
Alan's speciality)
Hans
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Re: [NTG-context] Starting with bibliography / international entries
On 10/13/2014 5:18 PM, Henning Hraban Ramm wrote:
Am 2014-10-13 um 18:00 schrieb Henning Hraban Ramm te...@fiee.net:
Am 2014-10-13 um 16:49 schrieb Wolfgang Schuster schuster.wolfg...@gmail.com:
The context suite comes with the file mkiv-publications.pdf which is the manual
for the new bibliography mechanism.
Thanks for the hint, I didn’t look after that.
I guess I will use the Lua syntax, since it’s the shortest.
… or stay with .bib, since there are tools for it, and maybe someone else might
need my data.
And hopefully I’ll figure out how to setup the output ;-)
But how would you cope with the international (i.e. Cyrillic) titles/authors?
Should I define fields like author_original or is there a better way (maybe
define the book twice, using crossref)?
I found this about BibLaTeX / Babel:
http://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/28010/how-to-create-multilingual-english-japanese-bibliographies-with-biblatex-bib
It’s nearly the same problem as mine.
BibLaTeX 3.0 + Biber 2.0 are advertised to support this syntax:
@COLLECTION{yanagida_zengaku_sosho_1975,
LANGID = {japanese},
EDITOR = {柳田聖山},
EDITOR_romanised = {Yanagida, Seizan},
TITLE = {禪學叢書},
TITLE_romanised = {Chūbun shuppansha},
TITLE_translated_english = {Collected Materials for the Study of Zen},
LOCATION = {京都},
LOCATION_romanised = {Kyōto},
LOCATION_translated_english = {Kyoto},
PUBLISHER = {中文出版社},
PUBLISHER_romanised = {Chūbun shuppansha},
DATE = {1974/1977}
}
… and extract the right version according to configuration.
Is there support for these constructed keys in ConTeXt?
sure, you can use any field you like and you can adapt yoru rendering
setups to use them
the problem is not so much to support variants of fields (although I
really dislike this mixed upper/lowercase mess)
the main question is: how mixed is this used? are EDITOR and
EDITOR_whatever used at the same time?
Hans
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Re: [NTG-context] (MKIV beta) APA citations: et al. incorrectly written
On 9 Oct 2014, at 08:52 , Sander Maijers s.n.maij...@gmail.com wrote: Am I correct in that you would enforce a single concrete citation format throughout the document that way? No, it would just change the Author-field for one particular entry that is causing trouble. One can correct all faulty entries that way of cause. You were asking for comments about your solution, I hope the following remarks are informative to you. My .bib file is being autogenerated by Mendeley, a reference manager, and changes often in terms of contents. That workflow seems incompatible with your solution. Furthermore, I may not let the authors appear in citations with all their names every time, it should be limited to the first time (the APA 6 rules, that I referred to). With your solution, 1 out of n citations would be correct, while in the current situation (without manual intervention) n-1 out of n would be correct (all but the first). I clearly misunderstood your problem, which, as I see now, thanks to your remarks, is rather different from mine. I would not have sent you my silly answer if I had known this. On the other hand, I too need citations and bibliographic references to appear in different forms, three in my case: In the Bibliography with Author: Last name, first name, In the text and footnotes the first time with Author(s): First name(s), last name(s), and full title of the work, and in all the following citations with Author(s): Last name(s) only and short title of the work. I could think of no other way to accomplish this than to generate the .bbl, make two copies, “Inversed Author” and “Short Title”, make the necessary changes in these .bbl’s, including the cite-key to mark it for these two alternatives. I should add that I could not use apa but an apa-like, modified in many details which also forced me to tweak the .bbl. It all seems a lot of work but it is straightforward, it works for me and it protects me from an enormous amount of frustration. (And I’m glad my .bib-file is not autogenerated.) Best regards, Robert Blackstone ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] (MKIV beta) APA citations: et al. incorrectly written
On 6 Oct 2014, at 23:33 , Sander Maijers s.n.maij...@gmail.com
wrote:
Who can offer a short-term solution to this problem? All I want is to
reference a work, listing all of the authors' names, in APA6 format. If
necessary I'll prescribe the output format manually.
Best,
Sander Maijers
\setupbibtex[database={references/bibliographic_database},sort=author]
\setuppublications[alternative=apa]
\starttext
\cite[extras={, p.~3}][Zhou2012]
\cite[Zhou2012]
\stoptext
Incorrectly produces:
(Zhou et al., 2012, p. 3) (Zhou et al., 2012)
Instead of:
(Zhou, Lyu, King, 2012, p. 3) (Zhou, Lyu, King, 2012)
What I would do is, for the final processing, not to load the .bib-file but the
.bbl that was generated in the previous run. You can open that file in any text
processor (I mostly use TeXShop) and manually change the Author for this
particular entry. In the .bbl the field Author has this form: \author[]{}[]{}{}
.
You should be able to solve your problem by putting inside the last pair of
brackets exactly how you would like your authors et. al. to appear in your
output. Place the whole lot again between brackets: \author[]{}[]{}{{Zhou, Tom
Chao and Lyu, Michael R. and King, Irwin}} or whatever you want.
But again, don’t input the bib-file. Every time you do that the old .bbl is
overwritten and your correction will be lost. ConTeXt uses the .bbl, not the
.bib.
I hope this helps.
Best regards,
Robert Blackstone
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Re: [NTG-context] (MKIV beta) APA citations: et al. incorrectly written
Thank you Robert! I was planning to respond to your private message as
well. Am I correct in that you would enforce a single concrete
citation format throughout the document that way? In that case, I' m
sorry to report that does not help me. You were asking for comments
about your solution, I hope the following remarks are informative to
you.
My .bib file is being autogenerated by Mendeley, a reference manager,
and changes often in terms of contents. That workflow seems
incompatible with your solution. Furthermore, I may not let the
authors appear in citations with all their names every time, it should
be limited to the first time (the APA 6 rules, that I referred to).
With your solution, 1 out of n citations would be correct, while in
the current situation (without manual intervention) n-1 out of n would
be correct (all but the first).
So, am I out of luck? Should I maybe have an 'invisible' citation with
the first citation, spelling out that citation myself, while still
recording that the work was cited and is to be listed in the
bibliography.
Who can tell me please how to hide \cite output in the neatest way
possible, while keeping the semantics in tact (i.e. establish that a
reference was made)?
Best,
Sander Maijers
On Wed, Oct 8, 2014 at 10:29 AM, Robert Blackstone
blackstone.rob...@gmail.com wrote:
On 6 Oct 2014, at 23:33 , Sander Maijers s.n.maij...@gmail.com
wrote:
Who can offer a short-term solution to this problem? All I want is to
reference a work, listing all of the authors' names, in APA6 format. If
necessary I'll prescribe the output format manually.
Best,
Sander Maijers
\setupbibtex[database={references/bibliographic_database},sort=author]
\setuppublications[alternative=apa]
\starttext
\cite[extras={, p.~3}][Zhou2012]
\cite[Zhou2012]
\stoptext
Incorrectly produces:
(Zhou et al., 2012, p. 3) (Zhou et al., 2012)
Instead of:
(Zhou, Lyu, King, 2012, p. 3) (Zhou, Lyu, King, 2012)
What I would do is, for the final processing, not to load the .bib-file but
the .bbl that was generated in the previous run. You can open that file in
any text processor (I mostly use TeXShop) and manually change the Author for
this particular entry. In the .bbl the field Author has this form:
\author[]{}[]{}{} .
You should be able to solve your problem by putting inside the last pair of
brackets exactly how you would like your authors et. al. to appear in your
output. Place the whole lot again between brackets: \author[]{}[]{}{{Zhou,
Tom Chao and Lyu, Michael R. and King, Irwin}} or whatever you want.
But again, don’t input the bib-file. Every time you do that the old .bbl is
overwritten and your correction will be lost. ConTeXt uses the .bbl, not the
.bib.
I hope this helps.
Best regards,
Robert Blackstone
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[NTG-context] spacing with enumeration...
Dear helpers in the field…
I have a project where I use an enumeration. However what I needed to do is to
make the spacing before, in-between and after smaller than it is in the
standard definition. All my attempts to get this right failed.
May be one of you can help me further?
Willi
\defineenumeration
[OtherMeaning]
[text=,
headstyle=normal,
alternative={left}, %,serried
distance=0pt,
width=20pt,
stopper=\high{o},
inbetween=]
\starttext
{\bf Ton}
\startnarrower
\startOtherMeaning
Inhoudsmaat van een schip, die 1000 kilo \dots
\stopOtherMeaning
\startOtherMeaning
Tonvormige boei \dots
\stopOtherMeaning
\stopnarrower
{\bf Tong,} z. n. v.
\startnarrower
Split van een standaard. \dots
\stopnarrower
\stoptext
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[NTG-context] Instruction required about hyphenation patterns
As well the original TeX manual as ConTeXt's one try to dissuade one of enquiring deeper into the subject of hyphenation patterns. For several reasons not to be explained at this moment this is however what I want to do. I have read all that I have found about the subject and think to have got a rather clear idea of the fundamental concepts. But I have been unable to understand how they are applied and can be managed in ConTeXt. So I would eagerly receive instruction about this question from someone who is competent enough in the field. As I understand that this is too involved a subject and of too little general interest for the mailing list, I suggest that any potential teacher sends me a private mail (fgragu...@gmail.com). I am ready to consider this as a consultorship or tutorship. Thanks in advance Francisco ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Weird error
Hi,
There was a question on TeX.SX about an error message
http://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/200474/setuppagenumberinglocation-causes-problem-in-context
The following MWE shows the same error
\setupfootertexts[\namedheadnumber{chapter}]
\setuppagenumbering[location=,alternative=doublesided]
\starttext
\completecontent
\chapter{Creating device driver}
\section{How to create the}
Chapter text
\stoptext
which gives
lua errorerror on line 8 in file /tmp/test.tex:
...uild/src/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/strc-doc.lua:904: attempt
to index field 'numbers' (a nil value)
stack traceback:
...uild/src/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/strc-doc.lua:904:
in function 'getsectionnumber'
[\directlua]:1: in main chunk
The error is weird because it only appears when all parts of the minimal
example are present. If I comment either or `location=,` or
`alternative=doublesided` or `\completecontent` or `\section{...}`, the
error goes away!
Any thoughts?
Aditya
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Re: [NTG-context] Weird error
Am 10.09.2014 um 18:37 schrieb Aditya Mahajan adit...@umich.edu:
Hi,
There was a question on TeX.SX about an error message
http://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/200474/setuppagenumberinglocation-causes-problem-in-context
The following MWE shows the same error
\setupfootertexts[\namedheadnumber{chapter}]
\setuppagenumbering[location=,alternative=doublesided]
\starttext
\completecontent
\chapter{Creating device driver}
\section{How to create the}
Chapter text
\stoptext
which gives
lua errorerror on line 8 in file /tmp/test.tex:
...uild/src/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/strc-doc.lua:904: attempt to
index field 'numbers' (a nil value)
stack traceback:
...uild/src/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/strc-doc.lua:904: in
function 'getsectionnumber'
[\directlua]:1: in main chunk
The error is weird because it only appears when all parts of the minimal
example are present. If I comment either or `location=,` or
`alternative=doublesided` or `\completecontent` or `\section{...}`, the error
goes away!
Any thoughts?
The error arises only when there is no aux file. A alternative to
\namedheadnumber{XXX} is \getmarking[XXXnumber].
\setupfootertexts[{\getmarking[chapternumber]}]
Wolfgang
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Re: [NTG-context] Weird error
On Wed, 10 Sep 2014, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
Am 10.09.2014 um 18:37 schrieb Aditya Mahajan adit...@umich.edu:
Hi,
There was a question on TeX.SX about an error message
http://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/200474/setuppagenumberinglocation-causes-problem-in-context
The following MWE shows the same error
\setupfootertexts[\namedheadnumber{chapter}]
\setuppagenumbering[location=,alternative=doublesided]
\starttext
\completecontent
\chapter{Creating device driver}
\section{How to create the}
Chapter text
\stoptext
which gives
lua errorerror on line 8 in file /tmp/test.tex:
...uild/src/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/strc-doc.lua:904: attempt to
index field 'numbers' (a nil value)
stack traceback:
...uild/src/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/strc-doc.lua:904: in
function 'getsectionnumber'
[\directlua]:1: in main chunk
The error is weird because it only appears when all parts of the minimal
example are present. If I comment either or `location=,` or
`alternative=doublesided` or `\completecontent` or `\section{...}`, the error
goes away!
Any thoughts?
The error arises only when there is no aux file. A alternative to
\namedheadnumber{XXX} is \getmarking[XXXnumber].
\setupfootertexts[{\getmarking[chapternumber]}]
Thanks!
Aditya
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[NTG-context] Bug with the integration with tikz
I think there is a bug in the (latest) beta (2014.07.30 10:31 MKIV beta
fmt: 2014.8.2 int: english/english) that was *not* there earlier
this year!
Please, could somebody help and maybe provide a tip for a workaround?
It concerns the integration with tikz where I get now the following
error message:
util-lib.lua:246: module 'pgf.gd.control' not found:
no field package.preload['pgf.gd.control']
no file '/usr/local/share/lua/5.2/pgf/gd/control.lua'
no file '/usr/local/share/lua/5.2/pgf/gd/control/init.lua'
no file '/usr/local/lib/lua/5.2/pgf/gd/control.lua'
no file '/usr/local/lib/lua/5.2/pgf/gd/control/init.lua'
no file './pgf/gd/control.lua'
no file '/usr/local/lib/lua/5.2/pgf/gd/control.so'
no file '/usr/local/lib/lua/5.2/loadall.so'
no file './pgf/gd/control.so'
no file '/usr/local/lib/lua/5.2/pgf.so'
no file '/usr/local/lib/lua/5.2/loadall.so'
no file './pgf.so'
stack traceback:
[C]: in function 'savedrequire'
.../context/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/util-lib.lua:246:
in function
'require' ...neric/pgf/graphdrawing/lua/pgf/gd/control/Sublayouts.lua:41:
in main chunk [C]: in function
'savedrequire' .../context/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/util-lib.lua:246:
in function
'require' ...graphdrawing/lua/pgf/gd/interface/InterfaceToDisplay.lua:45:
in main chunk [C]: in function
'savedrequire' .../context/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/util-lib.lua:246:
in function 'require' [\directlua]:1: in main chunk
1101 }
1102 }
1103
1104
1105 %
1106 % Ok, fire up the system by creating the binding!
1107 %
1108 \directlua{
1109 require 'pgf.gd.interface.InterfaceToDisplay'
1110 pgf.gd.interface.InterfaceToDisplay.bind(require
'pgf.gd.bindings.BindingToPGF') }
A minimal example is:
\usemodule[tikz]
\usetikzlibrary[graphs]
\usetikzlibrary[graphdrawing]
\starttext
\starttikzpicture
\graph { a - {b, c} - d };
\stoptikzpicture
\stoptext
Günter
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Re: [NTG-context] bibliography MKiV
Dear Flavien,
This version works — note “dataset=document” and the “document::” in the
citation. The clue is in the log:
publications cite non-existent entry 'batty' in ''
publications no field 'num' for tag 'batty' in dataset ‘'
The second big “1” is because \completebtxrendering has an implicit \chapter,
but seemingly no default title.
Robin
\definebtxdataset[document]
\usebtxdataset[document][test.bib]
\definebtxrendering[document][dataset=document]
\setupbtxrendering[document][numbering=yes]
\starttext
As \cite[document::batty] already indicated, bibtex is a \LATEX||centric
program.
\completebtxrendering[document]
\stoptext
From: Flavien Lambert petit.lep...@gmail.com
Subject: [NTG-context] bibliography MKiV
Dear all, I tried to reproduce the example of mkiv-publications.pdf, chapter
10 through:
\definebtxdataset[document]
\usebtxdataset[document][test.bib]
\definebtxrendering[document]
\setupbtxrendering[document][numbering=yes]
\starttext
\starttext
As \cite[batty] already indicated, bibtex is a \LATEX||centric
program.
\completebtxrendering[document]
\stoptext
with test.bib as
@article{batty,
author = 'M. Batty',
title = 'The size, scale, and shape of cities',
journal = 'Science',
volume = '319',
number = '5864',
pages = '769--771',
year = '2008'
}
Unfortunately, the result is two pages, one with As [num:batty] already
indicated, bibtex is a L A TEX--centric program. and the other with a large 1.
Could you tell me what I am doing wrong? My apologies if it is really
obvious...
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Re: [NTG-context] bibliography MKiV
Hi Robin, thanks for the quick reply. Unfortunately, except for the syntax
in the TeX file, I do not get num. What is this? Do I have to modify the
bibtex file? If so, I do not understand since it is a regular one.
Thanks for your help,
F.
On 9 July 2014 19:28, robin.kirk...@csiro.au wrote:
Dear Flavien,
This version works — note “dataset=document” and the “document::” in the
citation. The clue is in the log:
publications cite non-existent entry 'batty' in ''
publications no field 'num' for tag 'batty' in dataset ‘'
The second big “1” is because \completebtxrendering has an implicit
\chapter, but seemingly no default title.
Robin
\definebtxdataset[document]
\usebtxdataset[document][test.bib]
\definebtxrendering[document][dataset=document]
\setupbtxrendering[document][numbering=yes]
\starttext
As \cite[document::batty] already indicated, bibtex is a \LATEX||centric
program.
\completebtxrendering[document]
\stoptext
From: Flavien Lambert petit.lep...@gmail.com
Subject: [NTG-context] bibliography MKiV
Dear all, I tried to reproduce the example of mkiv-publications.pdf,
chapter 10 through:
\definebtxdataset[document]
\usebtxdataset[document][test.bib]
\definebtxrendering[document]
\setupbtxrendering[document][numbering=yes]
\starttext
\starttext
As \cite[batty] already indicated, bibtex is a \LATEX||centric
program.
\completebtxrendering[document]
\stoptext
with test.bib as
@article{batty,
author = 'M. Batty',
title = 'The size, scale, and shape of cities',
journal = 'Science',
volume = '319',
number = '5864',
pages = '769--771',
year = '2008'
}
Unfortunately, the result is two pages, one with As [num:batty]
already indicated, bibtex is a L A TEX--centric program. and the other with
a large 1.
Could you tell me what I am doing wrong? My apologies if it is really
obvious...
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[NTG-context] Resizing multi-line fill-in field
I am re-posting a previous question. Is it possible to increase the height of a multi-line fill-in field when the cumulative height of the lines typed into it exceeds the field's initial height? Here's an example where the field's initial height in 10em. \usemodule[fields] \setupinteraction[state=start] \setupfield [TextSetup] [width=\textwidth, height=10em, background=screen, backgroundscreen=.97, frame=off] \definefield [Block] [text] [TextSetup] [] [What's on your mind?] \starttext \field [Block] [type here] \stoptext I have a situation where the amount of text typed into various fields will vary, but it is inappropriate to reserve a large block of space for each field. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. -- With kind regards, Michael Guravage ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Resizing multi-line fill-in field
On 7/1/2014 12:37 PM, Michael Guravage wrote: I am re-posting a previous question. Is it possible to increase the height of a multi-line fill-in field when the cumulative height of the lines typed into it exceeds the field's initial height? Here's an example where the field's initial height in 10em. \usemodule[fields] \setupinteraction[state=start] \setupfield [TextSetup] [width=\textwidth, height=10em, background=screen, backgroundscreen=.97, frame=off] \definefield [Block] [text] [TextSetup] [] [What's on your mind?] \starttext \field [Block] [type here] \stoptext I have a situation where the amount of text typed into various fields will vary, but it is inappropriate to reserve a large block of space for each field. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. You mean that the field in the pdf adapts itself? Maybe with some javascript magic but then it still doesn't adapt the following layout. you can set n= to a large value to permits more than the standard 1000 chars - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] PDF Forms - expanding multi-line text fields
I am composing a document that contains pdf forms. Example code in Widgets Uncovered, shows how to specify the height and width of a multi-line text field. Here is a small example: \usemodule[fields] \setupinteraction[state=start] \setupfield [TextSetup] [width=\textwidth,height=5em,background=screen,backgroundscreen=.97,frame=off] \definefield [Block] [text] [TextSetup] \starttext \field [Block] \stoptext In this example the height is 5em. The field will scroll lines up when the height of the lines typed exceeds the height of the field. Click outside the field and the field displays the first n-lines that fit within its height. My question is, is it possible to tell the field to expand beyond its initial field height to display all its lines? A second less pressing question is, is it possible to tell lines to wrap when they exceed the field width? -- With kind regards, Michael Guravage ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] [OT] Typographical quality of various engines
On 2014-05-15 Hans Hagen wrote: On 5/14/2014 10:21 PM, Jan Tosovsky wrote: Dear All, I've finished a rough comparision of various engines for their typographical quality: http://drifted.in/publishing/ From my point of view the ConTeXt is the best offering in this field to date, so congratulation! If you find something inappropriate or misleading in my text, please comment or let me know. If my ConTeXt examples could be written more efficiently, I am open to fix it. Font expansion only, applied to a limited character subset Is that true? It is applied to any character that you want, of course given that you associate expansion factors, but that happens for quite some characters in context. Good point, it should be clarified it is a default vector set, which can be further customized (extended). My info is based on this Wiki http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Protrusion pointing to this source code: http://source.contextgarden.net/font-ext.lua By that subset I mean the table vectors['default'] Concerning homogenization, context has support for dynamically aplying feature (alternates) to improve the look and feel but of course not many fonts have multiple variants for glyphs grouped in stylistic alternates so this mechanism is hardly used (only for some arabic). Yes, I am aware of this, but it is indeed not very obvious from the text. Thanks for your suggestions, Jan ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] [OT] Typographical quality of various engines
On 5/15/2014 7:39 PM, Jan Tosovsky wrote: On 2014-05-15 Hans Hagen wrote: On 5/14/2014 10:21 PM, Jan Tosovsky wrote: Dear All, I've finished a rough comparision of various engines for their typographical quality: http://drifted.in/publishing/ From my point of view the ConTeXt is the best offering in this field to date, so congratulation! If you find something inappropriate or misleading in my text, please comment or let me know. If my ConTeXt examples could be written more efficiently, I am open to fix it. Font expansion only, applied to a limited character subset Is that true? It is applied to any character that you want, of course given that you associate expansion factors, but that happens for quite some characters in context. Good point, it should be clarified it is a default vector set, which can be further customized (extended). My info is based on this Wiki http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Protrusion pointing to this source code: http://source.contextgarden.net/font-ext.lua By that subset I mean the table vectors['default'] yes but we also initialize all similar shapes Concerning homogenization, context has support for dynamically aplying feature (alternates) to improve the look and feel but of course not many fonts have multiple variants for glyphs grouped in stylistic alternates so this mechanism is hardly used (only for some arabic). Yes, I am aware of this, but it is indeed not very obvious from the text. Thanks for your suggestions, Jan ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___ -- - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] [OT] Typographical quality of various engines
On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 7:39 PM, Jan Tosovsky j.tosov...@email.cz wrote: On 2014-05-15 Hans Hagen wrote: On 5/14/2014 10:21 PM, Jan Tosovsky wrote: Dear All, I've finished a rough comparision of various engines for their typographical quality: http://drifted.in/publishing/ From my point of view the ConTeXt is the best offering in this field to date, so congratulation! If you find something inappropriate or misleading in my text, please comment or let me know. If my ConTeXt examples could be written more efficiently, I am open to fix it. Font expansion only, applied to a limited character subset Is that true? It is applied to any character that you want, of course given that you associate expansion factors, but that happens for quite some characters in context. Good point, it should be clarified it is a default vector set, which can be further customized (extended). My info is based on this Wiki http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Protrusion pointing to this source code: http://source.contextgarden.net/font-ext.lua By that subset I mean the table vectors['default'] Concerning homogenization, context has support for dynamically aplying feature (alternates) to improve the look and feel but of course not many fonts have multiple variants for glyphs grouped in stylistic alternates so this mechanism is hardly used (only for some arabic). Yes, I am aware of this, but it is indeed not very obvious from the text. Thanks for your suggestions, Jan Another point could be the server property... the swiglib project is an attempt to cover this side https://swiglib.foundry.supelec.fr/ -- luigi ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] [OT] Typographical quality of various engines
Dear All, I've finished a rough comparision of various engines for their typographical quality: http://drifted.in/publishing/ From my point of view the ConTeXt is the best offering in this field to date, so congratulation! If you find something inappropriate or misleading in my text, please comment or let me know. If my ConTeXt examples could be written more efficiently, I am open to fix it. Thanks, Jan ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] [OT] Typographical quality of various engines
On 5/14/2014 10:21 PM, Jan Tosovsky wrote: Dear All, I've finished a rough comparision of various engines for their typographical quality: http://drifted.in/publishing/ From my point of view the ConTeXt is the best offering in this field to date, so congratulation! If you find something inappropriate or misleading in my text, please comment or let me know. If my ConTeXt examples could be written more efficiently, I am open to fix it. Font expansion only, applied to a limited character subset Is that true? It is applied to any character that you want, of course given that you associate expansion factors, but that happens for quite some characters in context. Concerning homogenization, context has support for dynamically aplying feature (alternates) to improve the look and feel but of course not many fonts have multiple variants for glyphs grouped in stylistic alternates so this mechanism is hardly used (only for some arabic). Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] LuaTeX-Plain and OTF/TTF Fonts
On Tue May 6 21:13:43 2014, Hans Hagen wrote: On 5/6/2014 4:49 PM, Aire Funvake wrote: Dear Group, Thank you for your time. I'm starting out with TeX/ConTeXt, but want to arrive via LuaTeX (`luatex-plain.tex/fmt`). Managed to build, move and use `luatex-plain`. Have the same problem under MacOSX Win7 (here is the Win-specific decription -- `%CTX%` is my ConTeXt root): Setting `OSFONTDIR` before font update and/or before running `luatex-plain`, have no observable effect. So, I do have a manual fix/solution. But is there an easier way? I assume you made a plain format with: mtxrun --script plain --make Then, does this work: mtxrun --script plain luatex-test okay? Hans 8- Hi Hans, No, I made it with `luatex --ini luatex-plain.fmt` and copied the resulting `.fmt` file. But, I executed the first command just now, just to be sure, and then ran the next command: `mtxrun --script plain luatex-test`. Result: \write18 enabled. ... tex/texmf-cache/luatex-cache/generic/fonts/data/luatex-fonts-names.luc)(load luc : c:/ctx/tex/texmf-cache/luatex-cache/generic/fonts/otf/lmroman10-bold.luc)unkn own font in database, run: mtxrun --script fonts --reload --simple ! LuaTeX error ...ntext/tex/generic/context/luatex/luatex-fonts-merged.lua:6213: attempt to index field 'known' (a nil value). to be read again \par l.33 ?Renter After `R`, it did produced `luatex-test.pdf`. Not sure if it looks the way it should ... couple of overfull boxes, narrow third page. Either way, I updated the fonts again as above, checked that it recreated the `luatex-fonts-names.lua` file like before. If I delete the old `luatex-fonts-names.luc`, the next run of `luatex-plain hello.tex` produces the same result. Added the paths to the fonts in `luatex-fonts-names.lua` (minion myriad), ran `luatex-plain hello.tex` again ... and all is fine. Further experimentation: Copied the Source Sans Pro fonts to a subdirectory alongside the `minion` and `myriad` directories, (`%CTX%\tex\texmf-fonts\otf\sourcesans`), and again updated the fonts database(s). Upon inspection of `luatex-fonts-names.lua`, the Source Sans fonts and files are listed, but they *did* have the path prefixed to the font file names, and consequently, I could use them without modifying `luatex-fonts-names.lua`. Thank you for your reply. I'm convinced this is no bug, just my inexperience at play. This is not a crippling problem. I can tackle The TeXbook now. Regards, Aíre Funvake. ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] \mathextensible{21FE}
Thanks for the answer,
I wanted to use to use the mechanism described in about.pdf for
extensible arrows with possibly text above, under...
I've had a look at the xits-math.tma.
Though U+2194 and U+21FE are both arrows, U+2194 has an horizontal
part field in contrast to U+21FE how hasn't.
So I guess the otf font might be the culprit.
And meddle with fonts is impossible a task.
For the present I will content myself with something like
\math{\overset{f}{-\kern-1ex\rightarrowtriangle}}
There might be a better way to achieve that in Context, I don't know.
Chris
On Thu, Apr 24, 2014 at 10:32 PM, Wolfgang Schuster
schuster.wolfg...@gmail.com wrote:
Am 24.04.2014 um 18:24 schrieb Elspeth McGullicuddy
elspethmcgullicu...@gmail.com:
Dear all,
The following example doesn't work for me:
\setupbodyfont[xits]
\starttext
\math{x\mathextensible{2194}{hello}{}y}
\math{x\mathextensible{21FE}{hello}{}y}
\math{\char21FE}
\stoptext
I found the symbol which I needed there:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arrow_%28symbol%29#Arrows_in_Unicode
and there:
http://milde.users.sourceforge.net/LUCR/Math/unimathcmds.pdf
\setupbodyfont[xits]
\starttext
\math{a \leftrightarrow b \rightarrowtriangle c}
\math{a ↔ b ⇾ c}
\stoptext
Wolfgang
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Re: [NTG-context] \mathextensible{21FE}
Am 24.04.2014 um 23:06 schrieb Elspeth McGullicuddy
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Thanks for the answer,
I wanted to use to use the mechanism described in about.pdf for
extensible arrows with possibly text above, under...
I've had a look at the xits-math.tma.
Though U+2194 and U+21FE are both arrows, U+2194 has an horizontal
part field in contrast to U+21FE how hasn't.
So I guess the otf font might be the culprit.
And meddle with fonts is impossible a task.
For the present I will content myself with something like
\math{\overset{f}{-\kern-1ex\rightarrowtriangle}}
There might be a better way to achieve that in Context, I don't know.
\setupbodyfont[xits]
\starttext
\starttabulate[|l|lm|]
\NC \tex{overleftarrow} \NC \overleftarrow{top} \NC\NR
\NC \tex{overrightarrow} \NC \overrightarrow{text} \NC\NR
\NC \tex{overleftrightarrow} \NC \overleftrightarrow{text} \NC\NR
\NC \tex{overtwoheadleftarrow} \NC \overtwoheadleftarrow{text} \NC\NR
\NC \tex{overtwoheadrightarrow} \NC \overtwoheadrightarrow{text} \NC\NR
\NC \tex{texoverleftharpoondown} \NC \overleftharpoondown{text}\NC\NR
\NC \tex{overleftharpoonup} \NC \overleftharpoonup{text} \NC\NR
\NC \tex{overrightharpoondown} \NC \overrightharpoondown{text} \NC\NR
\NC \tex{overrightharpoonup} \NC \overrightharpoonup{text} \NC\NR
\TB
\NC \tex{underleftarrow} \NC \underleftarrow{text} \NC\NR
\NC \tex{underrightarrow}\NC \underrightarrow{text}\NC\NR
\NC \tex{underleftrightarrow}\NC \underleftrightarrow{text}\NC\NR
\NC \tex{undertwoheadleftarrow} \NC \undertwoheadleftarrow{text} \NC\NR
\NC \tex{undertwoheadrightarrow} \NC \undertwoheadrightarrow{text} \NC\NR
\NC \tex{underleftharpoondown} \NC \underleftharpoondown{text} \NC\NR
\NC \tex{underleftharpoonup} \NC \underleftharpoonup{text} \NC\NR
\NC \tex{underrightharpoondown} \NC \underrightharpoondown{text} \NC\NR
\NC \tex{underrightharpoonup}\NC \underrightharpoonup{text}\NC\NR
\stoptabulate
\stoptext
Wolfgang
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Re: [NTG-context] \mathextensible{21FE}
In about.pdf on can see that U+21FE (rightarrowtriangle) is eligible
for use with \mathextensible.
When one look at the code for \mathextensible in math-stc.mkvi, one
can see there is a mechanism of fallback.
So, since the character is implemented in xits, there might be a way
to have \mathextensible{21FE} to work...
Chris
On Thu, Apr 24, 2014 at 11:25 PM, Wolfgang Schuster
schuster.wolfg...@gmail.com wrote:
Am 24.04.2014 um 23:06 schrieb Elspeth McGullicuddy
elspethmcgullicu...@gmail.com:
Thanks for the answer,
I wanted to use to use the mechanism described in about.pdf for
extensible arrows with possibly text above, under...
I've had a look at the xits-math.tma.
Though U+2194 and U+21FE are both arrows, U+2194 has an horizontal
part field in contrast to U+21FE how hasn't.
So I guess the otf font might be the culprit.
And meddle with fonts is impossible a task.
For the present I will content myself with something like
\math{\overset{f}{-\kern-1ex\rightarrowtriangle}}
There might be a better way to achieve that in Context, I don't know.
\setupbodyfont[xits]
\starttext
\starttabulate[|l|lm|]
\NC \tex{overleftarrow} \NC \overleftarrow{top} \NC\NR
\NC \tex{overrightarrow} \NC \overrightarrow{text} \NC\NR
\NC \tex{overleftrightarrow} \NC \overleftrightarrow{text} \NC\NR
\NC \tex{overtwoheadleftarrow} \NC \overtwoheadleftarrow{text} \NC\NR
\NC \tex{overtwoheadrightarrow} \NC \overtwoheadrightarrow{text} \NC\NR
\NC \tex{texoverleftharpoondown} \NC \overleftharpoondown{text}\NC\NR
\NC \tex{overleftharpoonup} \NC \overleftharpoonup{text} \NC\NR
\NC \tex{overrightharpoondown} \NC \overrightharpoondown{text} \NC\NR
\NC \tex{overrightharpoonup} \NC \overrightharpoonup{text} \NC\NR
\TB
\NC \tex{underleftarrow} \NC \underleftarrow{text} \NC\NR
\NC \tex{underrightarrow}\NC \underrightarrow{text}\NC\NR
\NC \tex{underleftrightarrow}\NC \underleftrightarrow{text}\NC\NR
\NC \tex{undertwoheadleftarrow} \NC \undertwoheadleftarrow{text} \NC\NR
\NC \tex{undertwoheadrightarrow} \NC \undertwoheadrightarrow{text} \NC\NR
\NC \tex{underleftharpoondown} \NC \underleftharpoondown{text} \NC\NR
\NC \tex{underleftharpoonup} \NC \underleftharpoonup{text} \NC\NR
\NC \tex{underrightharpoondown} \NC \underrightharpoondown{text} \NC\NR
\NC \tex{underrightharpoonup}\NC \underrightharpoonup{text}\NC\NR
\stoptabulate
\stoptext
Wolfgang
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[NTG-context] links to external documents
I am exploring the feasibility of presenting two interacting PDF files side
by side. Thus far my experiments with \usereferences have managed only to
produce a lua error:
.../ConTeXt/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/strc-ref.lua:1394: attempt
to call field 'reference' (a nil value)
stack traceback:
.../ConTeXt/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/strc-ref.lua:1394: in
function 'identify_outer'
.../ConTeXt/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/strc-ref.lua:1620: in
function 'identify'
.../ConTeXt/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/strc-ref.lua:1645: in
function 'valid'
.../ConTeXt/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/strc-ref.lua:1667: in
function 'doifelsereference'
[\directlua]:1: in main chunk
The setup--
%testA.tex
\starttext
text text.\reference[firstpage]{}
text text.\footnote[fnote]{A note.}
\stoptext
%LinkTest.tex
\setupinteraction[state=start]
\useexternaldocument[testA.tex]
\usereferences[testA.tex]
\starttext
\at{page}[testA.tex::firstpage]
\in{note}[testA.tex::fnote]
\stoptext
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Re: [NTG-context] [font-otn] bug in node mode
···date: 2014-03-25, Tuesday···from: Hans Hagen··· On 3/24/2014 8:40 PM, Philipp Gesang wrote: Hi Hans, I’m afraid I have to bother you again with this issue. Consider this code: \font \mainface = file:EBGaramond12-Regular.otf:mode=node \mainface foo \bye This breaks with the latest fontloader because in font-otn local function initialize(sequence,script,language,enabled) local features = sequence.features if features then local order = features.order for i=1,#order do -- ... the table “features” never has a field “order”; “sequence” has one occasionally, though not always. should be local function initialize(sequence,script,language,enabled) local features = sequence.features if features then local order = sequence.order if order then for i=1,#order do end else -- can't happen end end return false end went unnoticed as context uses a variant This time it’s exactly as I patched it =) Thanks for fixing, Philipp pgp_wRqikBeNA.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] [font-otn] bug in node mode
Hi Hans, I’m afraid I have to bother you again with this issue. Consider this code: \font \mainface = file:EBGaramond12-Regular.otf:mode=node \mainface foo \bye This breaks with the latest fontloader because in font-otn local function initialize(sequence,script,language,enabled) local features = sequence.features if features then local order = features.order for i=1,#order do -- ... the table “features” never has a field “order”; “sequence” has one occasionally, though not always. Best, Philipp ···date: 2014-03-14, Friday···from: Hans Hagen··· On 3/14/2014 7:48 AM, Philipp Gesang wrote: Hi Hans, at least the Plain format breaks as soon as you define a font in node mode: \font \testfont = lmroman10-regular.otf:mode=node \testfont foo \bye no, it's: local order = features.order for i=1,#order do -- local kind = order[i] -- - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___ pgpiX_opg32FN.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] [font-otn] bug in node mode
On 3/24/2014 8:40 PM, Philipp Gesang wrote: Hi Hans, I’m afraid I have to bother you again with this issue. Consider this code: \font \mainface = file:EBGaramond12-Regular.otf:mode=node \mainface foo \bye This breaks with the latest fontloader because in font-otn local function initialize(sequence,script,language,enabled) local features = sequence.features if features then local order = features.order for i=1,#order do -- ... the table “features” never has a field “order”; “sequence” has one occasionally, though not always. should be local function initialize(sequence,script,language,enabled) local features = sequence.features if features then local order = sequence.order if order then for i=1,#order do end else -- can't happen end end return false end went unnoticed as context uses a variant Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Trimming strings and Lua string.trim question
On 3/6/2014 12:00 AM, Rik Kabel wrote:
On 2014-03-05 10:54, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
Am 05.03.2014 um 16:18 schrieb Wolfgang Schuster
schuster.wolfg...@gmail.com mailto:schuster.wolfg...@gmail.com:
Am 05.03.2014 um 16:07 schrieb Rik Kabel cont...@rik.users.panix.com
mailto:cont...@rik.users.panix.com:
striplong
It would be nice if striplong worked, but the example fails when
string.striplong is used in place of string.strip. The log says:
! LuaTeX error [string \directlua ]:1: attempt to call field
'striplong' (a nil value)
stack traceback:
[string \directlua ]:1: in main chunk.
Is the format of the call different than shown in the wiki, or is a
different mechanism required to quote a potentially long string?
The name of the function is “strings.striplong”.
This should be “utilities.strings.striplong” but it has no effect
because when take a look
at the saved string in Lua you can see that blank lines are removed
from the text.
Wolfgang
Indeed. This does build without error, but the
utilities.strings.striplong result is worse than the string.strip
result, with some additional whitespace at the end of the test string
from the earlier example.
the definition of 'worse' depends on expectations and given the fact
that in tex a newline or two newlines in a row have a different meaning
it is just a guess what you want to achieve
anyway, the next beta will have
local str = table.concat( {
,
aap,
noot mies,
,
,
zuswim jet,
zuswim jet,
zuswim jet,
,
}, \n)
utilities.strings.striplines(str,'prune'):
[[aap
noot mies
zuswim jet
zuswim jet
zuswim jet]]
utilities.strings.striplines(str,'prune and collapse'):
[[aap
noot mies
zuswim jet
zuswim jet
zuswim jet]]
utilities.strings.striplines(str,'prune and no empty'):
[[aap
noot mies
zuswim jet
zuswim jet
zuswim jet]]
utilities.strings.striplines(str,'retain'):
[[
aap
noot mies
zuswim jet
zuswim jet
zuswim jet
]]
utilities.strings.striplines(str,'retain and collapse'):
[[
aap
noot mies
zuswim jet
zuswim jet
zuswim jet
]]
utilities.strings.striplines(str,'retain and no empty'):
[[
aap
noot mies
zuswim jet
zuswim jet
zuswim jet
]]
so you can choose what you like
Hans
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Re: [NTG-context] Trimming strings and Lua string.trim question
On 2014-03-06 05:38, Hans Hagen wrote:
On 3/6/2014 12:00 AM, Rik Kabel wrote:
On 2014-03-05 10:54, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
Am 05.03.2014 um 16:18 schrieb Wolfgang Schuster
schuster.wolfg...@gmail.com mailto:schuster.wolfg...@gmail.com:
Am 05.03.2014 um 16:07 schrieb Rik Kabel cont...@rik.users.panix.com
mailto:cont...@rik.users.panix.com:
striplong
It would be nice if striplong worked, but the example fails when
string.striplong is used in place of string.strip. The log says:
! LuaTeX error [string \directlua ]:1: attempt to call field
'striplong' (a nil value)
stack traceback:
[string \directlua ]:1: in main chunk.
Is the format of the call different than shown in the wiki, or is a
different mechanism required to quote a potentially long string?
The name of the function is “strings.striplong”.
This should be “utilities.strings.striplong” but it has no effect
because when take a look
at the saved string in Lua you can see that blank lines are removed
from the text.
Wolfgang
Indeed. This does build without error, but the
utilities.strings.striplong result is worse than the string.strip
result, with some additional whitespace at the end of the test string
from the earlier example.
the definition of 'worse' depends on expectations and given the fact
that in tex a newline or two newlines in a row have a different
meaning it is just a guess what you want to achieve
anyway, the next beta will have
local str = table.concat( {
,
aap,
noot mies,
,
,
zuswim jet,
zuswim jet,
zuswim jet,
,
}, \n)
utilities.strings.striplines(str,'prune'):
[[aap
noot mies
zuswim jet
zuswim jet
zuswim jet]]
utilities.strings.striplines(str,'prune and collapse'):
[[aap
noot mies
zuswim jet
zuswim jet
zuswim jet]]
utilities.strings.striplines(str,'prune and no empty'):
[[aap
noot mies
zuswim jet
zuswim jet
zuswim jet]]
utilities.strings.striplines(str,'retain'):
[[
aap
noot mies
zuswim jet
zuswim jet
zuswim jet
]]
utilities.strings.striplines(str,'retain and collapse'):
[[
aap
noot mies
zuswim jet
zuswim jet
zuswim jet
]]
utilities.strings.striplines(str,'retain and no empty'):
[[
aap
noot mies
zuswim jet
zuswim jet
zuswim jet
]]
so you can choose what you like
Hans
indeed, beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
Thank you for the flexible solution that allows each of us to find beauty.
Could you please ensure that this handles text in buffers the same way
that it handles other strings? I noticed that this is handled a bit
differently, as the following shows,but perhaps it is my clumsy coding.
The buffer result is closer to what I expect in terms of internal
whitespace, but still does not show expected trimming of leading and
trailing whitespace. That trimming, of course, is the point of the exercise.
\def\StringsStripLong#1%
{\ctxlua{context(utilities.strings.striplong([==[#1]==]))}}
\def\StringStrip#1%
{\ctxlua{context(string.strip([==[#1]==]))}}
\startbuffer[testbuffer]
B This is a test.
And it has an unexpected result.
\stopbuffer
\long\def\testmacro{
M This is a test.
And it has an unexpected result.
}
\starttext
\subject{Lua string.strip passed TeX buffer}
¦\StringStrip{\getbuffer[testbuffer]}¦
\subject{Lua string.strip passed TeX macro}
¦\StringStrip{\testmacro}¦
\subject{Lua utilities.strings.striplong passed TeX buffer}
¦\StringsStripLong{\getbuffer[testbuffer]}¦
\subject{Lua utilities.strings.striplong passed TeX macro}
¦\StringsStripLong{\testmacro}¦
\stoptext
--
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Re: [NTG-context] Trimming strings and Lua string.trim question
On 2014-03-05 03:24, Hans Hagen wrote:
On 3/5/2014 5:45 AM, Rik Kabel wrote:
I am trying to strip all leading and trailing whitespace from a string.
I have tried two methods, neither of which is satisfactory.
The first method uses \ignorespaces and \removeunwantedspaces. This
fails to strip leading and trailing newlines.
The second method uses the Lua string.strip function. The wiki
description:
Yields string with leading and trailing whitespace (spaces,
horizontal and vertical tabs, newlines) removed
suggests that this should do what I want, but I find that it removes
internal whitespace as well as the leading and trailing whitespace.
Can somebody suggest a better way of doing this?
The following code demonstrates the problem:
% macros=mkvi
\starttexdefinition StringStrip #STRING
\startluacode
context(string.strip([==[#STRING]==]))
\stopluacode
\stoptexdefinition
\long\def\test{
This is a test. \quad
And it has an unexpected result.
With \tex{ignorespaces} and \tex{removeunwantedspaces}, the
newlines remain.
With Lua {\tt string.strip}, the \tex{quad} at the end of a
paragraph is preserved,but the other internal whitespace
(including newlines) is gone!
}
\starttext
\subject{ignorespaces and removeunwantedspaces}
¦\ignorespaces\test\removeunwantedspaces¦
\subject{Lua string.strip}
¦\StringStrip{\test}¦
\stoptext
striplong
It would be nice if striplong worked, but the example fails when
string.striplong is used in place of string.strip. The log says:
! LuaTeX error [string \directlua ]:1: attempt to call field
'striplong' (a nil value)
stack traceback:
[string \directlua ]:1: in main chunk.
Is the format of the call different than shown in the wiki, or is a
different mechanism required to quote a potentially long string?
--
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Re: [NTG-context] Trimming strings and Lua string.trim question
Am 05.03.2014 um 16:07 schrieb Rik Kabel cont...@rik.users.panix.com: striplong It would be nice if striplong worked, but the example fails when string.striplong is used in place of string.strip. The log says: ! LuaTeX error [string \directlua ]:1: attempt to call field 'striplong' (a nil value) stack traceback: [string \directlua ]:1: in main chunk. Is the format of the call different than shown in the wiki, or is a different mechanism required to quote a potentially long string? The name of the function is “strings.striplong”. Wolfgang ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Trimming strings and Lua string.trim question
Am 05.03.2014 um 16:18 schrieb Wolfgang Schuster schuster.wolfg...@gmail.com: Am 05.03.2014 um 16:07 schrieb Rik Kabel cont...@rik.users.panix.com: striplong It would be nice if striplong worked, but the example fails when string.striplong is used in place of string.strip. The log says: ! LuaTeX error [string \directlua ]:1: attempt to call field 'striplong' (a nil value) stack traceback: [string \directlua ]:1: in main chunk. Is the format of the call different than shown in the wiki, or is a different mechanism required to quote a potentially long string? The name of the function is “strings.striplong”. This should be “utilities.strings.striplong” but it has no effect because when take a look at the saved string in Lua you can see that blank lines are removed from the text. Wolfgang ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Trimming strings and Lua string.trim question
On 2014-03-05 10:18, Wolfgang Schuster wrote: Am 05.03.2014 um 16:07 schrieb Rik Kabel cont...@rik.users.panix.com mailto:cont...@rik.users.panix.com: striplong It would be nice if striplong worked, but the example fails when string.striplong is used in place of string.strip. The log says: ! LuaTeX error [string \directlua ]:1: attempt to call field 'striplong' (a nil value) stack traceback: [string \directlua ]:1: in main chunk. Is the format of the call different than shown in the wiki, or is a different mechanism required to quote a potentially long string? The name of the function is strings.striplong. Wolfgang Thank you, Wolfgang. I have updated the wiki entry for this function. I have not been able to verify that other functions are similarly misidentified in the wiki, and have therefore not updated any others. Those who are more familiar with the functions may wish to review it. -- Rik ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Trimming strings and Lua string.trim question
On 2014-03-05 10:54, Wolfgang Schuster wrote: Am 05.03.2014 um 16:18 schrieb Wolfgang Schuster schuster.wolfg...@gmail.com mailto:schuster.wolfg...@gmail.com: Am 05.03.2014 um 16:07 schrieb Rik Kabel cont...@rik.users.panix.com mailto:cont...@rik.users.panix.com: striplong It would be nice if striplong worked, but the example fails when string.striplong is used in place of string.strip. The log says: ! LuaTeX error [string \directlua ]:1: attempt to call field 'striplong' (a nil value) stack traceback: [string \directlua ]:1: in main chunk. Is the format of the call different than shown in the wiki, or is a different mechanism required to quote a potentially long string? The name of the function is strings.striplong. This should be utilities.strings.striplong but it has no effect because when take a look at the saved string in Lua you can see that blank lines are removed from the text. Wolfgang Indeed. This does build without error, but the utilities.strings.striplong result is worse than the string.strip result, with some additional whitespace at the end of the test string from the earlier example. So, is this a confirmed bug? -- Rik ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] OT: Reflections on usability ConTeXt for typesetting of mathematics
Hello ConTeXist. 0. Do you think that this is only a problem for beginners of ConText or it is a general problem of ConTeXt? 1. How many of ConTeXt users use this tool for typesetting of non-elementary mathematics? 2. Are you satisfied with the results, which produces ConTeXt (thinking in the field of mathematics rate)? In general, yes. But there are some issues with TiKZ [http://www.ntg.nl/pipermail/ntg-context/2013/076384.html] and in some ocasions with columns (not balanced). Perhaps we could have a bug triage system for that? 3. What things do you need to have in ConTeXt study that one could bet mathematics at a reasonable level? One reason for ConTeXt is the ability of deal with XML and produce several outputs. Separation of content and presentation is also good. 4. Is ConTeXt able to substitute LaTeX to typesetting of math (e.g. in the future)? I join one person (I don't remember who) who says there could be more examples for learning people. I think an ideal think could be to have an equivalent The not so short introduction to LaTeX. 5. Can you think of any more questions that should be here? The community is good. All posted questions have posted answers. And Hans is the boss ;-) ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] [Math in ConTeXt]
Thanks Otared for the offer to look into math issues.
Here are a few I noticed when TeXing an MK2 set of notes with MK4.
Matthias
\starttext
\startformula
\text{\bf R}^n = R^n ={\bf R}^n= \mathbb{R}^n
\stopformula
%spacing of exponent is in Mk4 wider than in Mk2
\startformula
\left| \int_{a_{i-1}}^b e^x\, dx \right|
\stopformula
% lower bound runs into \left|
% space between integral sign and integrand too wide
\startformula
r'=r''
\stopformula
This $\int_{a}^b e^x\, dx $ is not good.
% Inline math integrals need limits at the side. Spacing with lines below and
above is awkward otherwise.
\startformula
area(f) = \iint_{\Omega} |{f_u\times f_v}|\, du dv
\stopformula
% limit not centered over double integral
\placeformula[-]
\stoptext
On Feb 16, 2014, at 5:30 AM, Otared Kavian ota...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi all,
After a series of exchanges on the list, on the topic of how mathematics
typesetting is and should be in ConTeXt, I am writing you this message to ask
all those who use ConTeXt to typeset mathematics and who encounter various
types of difficulties, or shortcomings, to send me their remarks, either on
list or off list.
I will check the problems with Aditya Mahajan and Mikael Sundqvist, and then
submit feature requests or bug reports to Hans and Aditya who will try to fix
the issues (I have asked these people about this, and they all agree…).
In order to help me manage efficiently the task, please add the following tag
[Math on ConTeXt]
to the Subject field of your message.
The issues which may be addressed are of the following categories:
1. Differences in the output of ConTeXt mkiv vs mkii (due to
differences in engine)
2. Differences in the output of ConTeXt mkiv vs LuaLaTeX + Opentype
math fonts (due to differences in macro package)
3. Differences in the output of ConTeXt mkiv vs PDFLaTeX + AMSMath (due
to differences in expectation)
4. Bug reports (regarding commands of plain TeX missing in ConTeXt, the
position of math accents, etc…)
Indeed some of the issues may have their origin in the fonts (therefore not
easy to fix thouroughly), but others may be fixed once the expectations are
clearly expressed.
As usual, please give minimal examples imbedded in
\starttext
………
\stoptext
so that we can test the issue you are reporting.
Thanks for your attention and cooperation,
Best regards: OK
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[NTG-context] [Math in ConTeXt]
Hi all, After a series of exchanges on the list, on the topic of how mathematics typesetting is and should be in ConTeXt, I am writing you this message to ask all those who use ConTeXt to typeset mathematics and who encounter various types of difficulties, or shortcomings, to send me their remarks, either on list or off list. I will check the problems with Aditya Mahajan and Mikael Sundqvist, and then submit feature requests or bug reports to Hans and Aditya who will try to fix the issues (I have asked these people about this, and they all agree…). In order to help me manage efficiently the task, please add the following tag [Math on ConTeXt] to the Subject field of your message. The issues which may be addressed are of the following categories: 1. Differences in the output of ConTeXt mkiv vs mkii (due to differences in engine) 2. Differences in the output of ConTeXt mkiv vs LuaLaTeX + Opentype math fonts (due to differences in macro package) 3. Differences in the output of ConTeXt mkiv vs PDFLaTeX + AMSMath (due to differences in expectation) 4. Bug reports (regarding commands of plain TeX missing in ConTeXt, the position of math accents, etc…) Indeed some of the issues may have their origin in the fonts (therefore not easy to fix thouroughly), but others may be fixed once the expectations are clearly expressed. As usual, please give minimal examples imbedded in \starttext ……… \stoptext so that we can test the issue you are reporting. Thanks for your attention and cooperation, Best regards: OK ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] OT: Reflections on usability ConTeXt for typesetting of mathematics
On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 6:57 PM, Hans Hagen pra...@wxs.nl wrote: On 2/10/2014 9:24 AM, Mikael P. Sundqvist wrote: Hi, I used ConTeXt (mkii) to write my PhD thesis in Mathematics in 2008. It worked just fine. At the moment I write some exams and hand-outs using ConTeXt, but research using LaTeX (since the journals do not really accept ConTeXt and my collaborators dont know ConTeXt). It certainly works OK to write math in ConTeXt, but I have a feeling that there are some things that are somewhat broken or not finetuned to output what mathematicians expect. Look at the attached pdf files [1] l.pdf (from LaTeX) and c.pdf (from latest standalone ConTeXt), with source l.tex and c.tex for some examples. In mkiv we follow some alternative approaches compared to mkii (and probably other tex macro packages) and some aspects indeed might need tuning (or more configuration options) .. I try hard to get away from hackery solutions (for several reasons). I agree it is good to avoid hackery as long as possible, and I for sure is ready to relearn how to write some things. With the examples I gave in the previous email in mind: * How am I supposed to write first derivative (f') and second derivative (f'') in such a way that they have the same type of prime (the prime in the first derivative is the one I prefer)? * How am I supposed to write f_xx'' to get the output as in the LaTeX example (i.e. so that the primes are over the xx)? * Could the default placement of limits in integrals be changed (integral=nolimits)? This is how it is done in almost all math books). * What about the size and finetuning of placement of indices in integrals and sums (and probably products, unions, ...)? * I remember I suggested that \| should be double bars in a previous thread on this list. Is there any drawback in giving double bars for \|? Of course I can relearn and use \lVert and \rVert, but I have a feeling that if we want people moving from LaTeX to ConTeXt, then this is the kind of things that should just work as expected... Best regards, Mikael When it comes to math environments, I think that thanks to the environments in http://dl.contextgarden.net/myway/mathalign.pdf http://dl.contextgarden..net/myway/mathalign.pdf we are OK. I sometimes miss the multline(d) environment from LaTeX. Best regards, Mikael [1] The attachments were too big, so I decided to put the pdf files on http://www.maths.lth.se/~mickep/l.pdf and http://www.maths.lth.se/~mickep/c.pdf On Sun, Feb 9, 2014 at 8:09 PM, Jaroslav Hajtmar hajt...@gyza.cz mailto:hajt...@gyza.cz wrote: Hello ConTeXist. I am very sorry for this OFF TOPIC contribution. For writing of this text led me several hours of searching on internet. I was looking for ways to typing of non-elementary math in ConTeXt Already a long time I use ConTeXt typesetting lot of different things and I am very satisfied. In the many things, of which I typed, was maths represented only marginally and minimally. Now I need to type some mathematics (at secondary school level) and I found that I came across borders of my knowledge of ConTeXt, or on possibilities of ConTeXt for typesetting of mathematics. I do not in any way call into question the ability of ConTeXt typesetting mathematics, although I think that who wants to type mathematics then use LaTeX. I want find experience of users of ConTeXt for real using of ConTeXt for typesetting of mathematics. I wonder how users use possible math modules (exist anything?) to be usable results. I have a few questions: 0. Do you think that this is only a problem for beginners of ConText or it is a general problem of ConTeXt? 1. How many of ConTeXt users use this tool for typesetting of non-elementary mathematics? 2. Are you satisfied with the results, which produces ConTeXt (thinking in the field of mathematics rate)? 3. What things do you need to have in ConTeXt study that one could bet mathematics at a reasonable level? 4. Is ConTeXt able to substitute LaTeX to typesetting of math (e.g. in the future)? 5. Can you think of any more questions that should be here? I hope that my question will help other beginners who would like to typing of mathematics use ConText - this unique and useful tool. Thanks for all the answers. Jaroslav Hajtmar ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl mailto:ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/__listinfo/ntg-context http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/__projects/contextrev/ http://foundry.supelec.fr
Re: [NTG-context] OT: Reflections on usability ConTeXt for typesetting of mathematics
Hi, Unless I am mistaken, Cambria is a font available for Windows. I'm using Linux, is it possible to install ? Is it free ? If yes, where can I download it ? Xits, I do not know. Is it possible to put the uppercase = right in math mode with Pagella ? thank you, Fabrice 2014-02-11 9:57 GMT+01:00 Mikael P. Sundqvist mic...@gmail.com: On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 6:57 PM, Hans Hagen pra...@wxs.nl wrote: On 2/10/2014 9:24 AM, Mikael P. Sundqvist wrote: Hi, I used ConTeXt (mkii) to write my PhD thesis in Mathematics in 2008. It worked just fine. At the moment I write some exams and hand-outs using ConTeXt, but research using LaTeX (since the journals do not really accept ConTeXt and my collaborators dont know ConTeXt). It certainly works OK to write math in ConTeXt, but I have a feeling that there are some things that are somewhat broken or not finetuned to output what mathematicians expect. Look at the attached pdf files [1] l.pdf (from LaTeX) and c.pdf (from latest standalone ConTeXt), with source l.tex and c.tex for some examples. In mkiv we follow some alternative approaches compared to mkii (and probably other tex macro packages) and some aspects indeed might need tuning (or more configuration options) .. I try hard to get away from hackery solutions (for several reasons). I agree it is good to avoid hackery as long as possible, and I for sure is ready to relearn how to write some things. With the examples I gave in the previous email in mind: * How am I supposed to write first derivative (f') and second derivative (f'') in such a way that they have the same type of prime (the prime in the first derivative is the one I prefer)? * How am I supposed to write f_xx'' to get the output as in the LaTeX example (i.e. so that the primes are over the xx)? * Could the default placement of limits in integrals be changed (integral=nolimits)? This is how it is done in almost all math books). * What about the size and finetuning of placement of indices in integrals and sums (and probably products, unions, ...)? * I remember I suggested that \| should be double bars in a previous thread on this list. Is there any drawback in giving double bars for \|? Of course I can relearn and use \lVert and \rVert, but I have a feeling that if we want people moving from LaTeX to ConTeXt, then this is the kind of things that should just work as expected... Best regards, Mikael When it comes to math environments, I think that thanks to the environments in http://dl.contextgarden.net/myway/mathalign.pdf http://dl.contextgarden..net/myway/mathalign.pdf we are OK. I sometimes miss the multline(d) environment from LaTeX. Best regards, Mikael [1] The attachments were too big, so I decided to put the pdf files on http://www.maths.lth.se/~mickep/l.pdf and http://www.maths.lth.se/~mickep/c.pdf On Sun, Feb 9, 2014 at 8:09 PM, Jaroslav Hajtmar hajt...@gyza.cz mailto:hajt...@gyza.cz wrote: Hello ConTeXist. I am very sorry for this OFF TOPIC contribution. For writing of this text led me several hours of searching on internet. I was looking for ways to typing of non-elementary math in ConTeXt Already a long time I use ConTeXt typesetting lot of different things and I am very satisfied. In the many things, of which I typed, was maths represented only marginally and minimally. Now I need to type some mathematics (at secondary school level) and I found that I came across borders of my knowledge of ConTeXt, or on possibilities of ConTeXt for typesetting of mathematics. I do not in any way call into question the ability of ConTeXt typesetting mathematics, although I think that who wants to type mathematics then use LaTeX. I want find experience of users of ConTeXt for real using of ConTeXt for typesetting of mathematics. I wonder how users use possible math modules (exist anything?) to be usable results. I have a few questions: 0. Do you think that this is only a problem for beginners of ConText or it is a general problem of ConTeXt? 1. How many of ConTeXt users use this tool for typesetting of non-elementary mathematics? 2. Are you satisfied with the results, which produces ConTeXt (thinking in the field of mathematics rate)? 3. What things do you need to have in ConTeXt study that one could bet mathematics at a reasonable level? 4. Is ConTeXt able to substitute LaTeX to typesetting of math (e.g. in the future)? 5. Can you think of any more questions that should be here? I hope that my question will help other beginners who would like to typing of mathematics use ConText - this unique and useful tool. Thanks for all the answers. Jaroslav Hajtmar ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add
Re: [NTG-context] OT: Reflections on usability ConTeXt for typesetting of mathematics
Hi, I used ConTeXt (mkii) to write my PhD thesis in Mathematics in 2008. It worked just fine. At the moment I write some exams and hand-outs using ConTeXt, but research using LaTeX (since the journals do not really accept ConTeXt and my collaborators dont know ConTeXt). It certainly works OK to write math in ConTeXt, but I have a feeling that there are some things that are somewhat broken or not finetuned to output what mathematicians expect. Look at the attached pdf files [1] l.pdf (from LaTeX) and c.pdf (from latest standalone ConTeXt), with source l.tex and c.tex for some examples. When it comes to math environments, I think that thanks to the environments in http://dl.contextgarden.net/myway/mathalign.pdf we are OK. I sometimes miss the multline(d) environment from LaTeX. Best regards, Mikael [1] The attachments were too big, so I decided to put the pdf files on http://www.maths.lth.se/~mickep/l.pdf and http://www.maths.lth.se/~mickep/c.pdf On Sun, Feb 9, 2014 at 8:09 PM, Jaroslav Hajtmar hajt...@gyza.cz wrote: Hello ConTeXist. I am very sorry for this OFF TOPIC contribution. For writing of this text led me several hours of searching on internet. I was looking for ways to typing of non-elementary math in ConTeXt Already a long time I use ConTeXt typesetting lot of different things and I am very satisfied. In the many things, of which I typed, was maths represented only marginally and minimally. Now I need to type some mathematics (at secondary school level) and I found that I came across borders of my knowledge of ConTeXt, or on possibilities of ConTeXt for typesetting of mathematics. I do not in any way call into question the ability of ConTeXt typesetting mathematics, although I think that who wants to type mathematics then use LaTeX. I want find experience of users of ConTeXt for real using of ConTeXt for typesetting of mathematics. I wonder how users use possible math modules (exist anything?) to be usable results. I have a few questions: 0. Do you think that this is only a problem for beginners of ConText or it is a general problem of ConTeXt? 1. How many of ConTeXt users use this tool for typesetting of non-elementary mathematics? 2. Are you satisfied with the results, which produces ConTeXt (thinking in the field of mathematics rate)? 3. What things do you need to have in ConTeXt study that one could bet mathematics at a reasonable level? 4. Is ConTeXt able to substitute LaTeX to typesetting of math (e.g. in the future)? 5. Can you think of any more questions that should be here? I hope that my question will help other beginners who would like to typing of mathematics use ConText - this unique and useful tool. Thanks for all the answers. Jaroslav Hajtmar ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/ listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___ c.tex Description: TeX document l.tex Description: TeX document ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] OT: Reflections on usability ConTeXt for typesetting of mathematics
Hi Jaroslav, Math support in ConTeXt is quite good. For beginners there are pages in the Wiki. http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Math I have to admit some pages are dated, but still give valid examples. The Wiki is a good starting point and have links to external example pages. regards Keith. Am 09.02.2014 um 20:09 schrieb Jaroslav Hajtmar hajt...@gyza.cz: Hello ConTeXist. I am very sorry for this OFF TOPIC contribution. For writing of this text led me several hours of searching on internet. I was looking for ways to typing of non-elementary math in ConTeXt Already a long time I use ConTeXt typesetting lot of different things and I am very satisfied. In the many things, of which I typed, was maths represented only marginally and minimally. Now I need to type some mathematics (at secondary school level) and I found that I came across borders of my knowledge of ConTeXt, or on possibilities of ConTeXt for typesetting of mathematics. I do not in any way call into question the ability of ConTeXt typesetting mathematics, although I think that who wants to type mathematics then use LaTeX. I want find experience of users of ConTeXt for real using of ConTeXt for typesetting of mathematics. I wonder how users use possible math modules (exist anything?) to be usable results. I have a few questions: 0. Do you think that this is only a problem for beginners of ConText or it is a general problem of ConTeXt? 1. How many of ConTeXt users use this tool for typesetting of non-elementary mathematics? 2. Are you satisfied with the results, which produces ConTeXt (thinking in the field of mathematics rate)? 3. What things do you need to have in ConTeXt study that one could bet mathematics at a reasonable level? 4. Is ConTeXt able to substitute LaTeX to typesetting of math (e.g. in the future)? 5. Can you think of any more questions that should be here? I hope that my question will help other beginners who would like to typing of mathematics use ConText - this unique and useful tool. Thanks for all the answers. Jaroslav Hajtmar ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___ ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] OT: Reflections on usability ConTeXt for typesetting of mathematics
Hi, I begin to migrate slowly to ConTeXt, and I think it works very well for writing mathematics. I have a question : what is the most complete Math Font to write mathematics with ConteXt course ? thank you, Fabrice 2014-02-10 9:45 GMT+01:00 Keith J. Schultz schul...@uni-trier.de: Hi Jaroslav, Math support in ConTeXt is quite good. For beginners there are pages in the Wiki. http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Math I have to admit some pages are dated, but still give valid examples. The Wiki is a good starting point and have links to external example pages. regards Keith. Am 09.02.2014 um 20:09 schrieb Jaroslav Hajtmar hajt...@gyza.cz: Hello ConTeXist. I am very sorry for this OFF TOPIC contribution. For writing of this text led me several hours of searching on internet. I was looking for ways to typing of non-elementary math in ConTeXt Already a long time I use ConTeXt typesetting lot of different things and I am very satisfied. In the many things, of which I typed, was maths represented only marginally and minimally. Now I need to type some mathematics (at secondary school level) and I found that I came across borders of my knowledge of ConTeXt, or on possibilities of ConTeXt for typesetting of mathematics. I do not in any way call into question the ability of ConTeXt typesetting mathematics, although I think that who wants to type mathematics then use LaTeX. I want find experience of users of ConTeXt for real using of ConTeXt for typesetting of mathematics. I wonder how users use possible math modules (exist anything?) to be usable results. I have a few questions: 0. Do you think that this is only a problem for beginners of ConText or it is a general problem of ConTeXt? 1. How many of ConTeXt users use this tool for typesetting of non-elementary mathematics? 2. Are you satisfied with the results, which produces ConTeXt (thinking in the field of mathematics rate)? 3. What things do you need to have in ConTeXt study that one could bet mathematics at a reasonable level? 4. Is ConTeXt able to substitute LaTeX to typesetting of math (e.g. in the future)? 5. Can you think of any more questions that should be here? I hope that my question will help other beginners who would like to typing of mathematics use ConText - this unique and useful tool. Thanks for all the answers. Jaroslav Hajtmar ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___ ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___ ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] OT: Reflections on usability ConTeXt for typesetting of mathematics
On 2/10/2014 9:24 AM, Mikael P. Sundqvist wrote: Hi, I used ConTeXt (mkii) to write my PhD thesis in Mathematics in 2008. It worked just fine. At the moment I write some exams and hand-outs using ConTeXt, but research using LaTeX (since the journals do not really accept ConTeXt and my collaborators dont know ConTeXt). It certainly works OK to write math in ConTeXt, but I have a feeling that there are some things that are somewhat broken or not finetuned to output what mathematicians expect. Look at the attached pdf files [1] l.pdf (from LaTeX) and c.pdf (from latest standalone ConTeXt), with source l.tex and c.tex for some examples. In mkiv we follow some alternative approaches compared to mkii (and probably other tex macro packages) and some aspects indeed might need tuning (or more configuration options) .. I try hard to get away from hackery solutions (for several reasons). When it comes to math environments, I think that thanks to the environments in http://dl.contextgarden.net/myway/mathalign.pdf http://dl.contextgarden..net/myway/mathalign.pdf we are OK. I sometimes miss the multline(d) environment from LaTeX. Best regards, Mikael [1] The attachments were too big, so I decided to put the pdf files on http://www.maths.lth.se/~mickep/l.pdf and http://www.maths.lth.se/~mickep/c.pdf On Sun, Feb 9, 2014 at 8:09 PM, Jaroslav Hajtmar hajt...@gyza.cz mailto:hajt...@gyza.cz wrote: Hello ConTeXist. I am very sorry for this OFF TOPIC contribution. For writing of this text led me several hours of searching on internet. I was looking for ways to typing of non-elementary math in ConTeXt Already a long time I use ConTeXt typesetting lot of different things and I am very satisfied. In the many things, of which I typed, was maths represented only marginally and minimally. Now I need to type some mathematics (at secondary school level) and I found that I came across borders of my knowledge of ConTeXt, or on possibilities of ConTeXt for typesetting of mathematics. I do not in any way call into question the ability of ConTeXt typesetting mathematics, although I think that who wants to type mathematics then use LaTeX. I want find experience of users of ConTeXt for real using of ConTeXt for typesetting of mathematics. I wonder how users use possible math modules (exist anything?) to be usable results. I have a few questions: 0. Do you think that this is only a problem for beginners of ConText or it is a general problem of ConTeXt? 1. How many of ConTeXt users use this tool for typesetting of non-elementary mathematics? 2. Are you satisfied with the results, which produces ConTeXt (thinking in the field of mathematics rate)? 3. What things do you need to have in ConTeXt study that one could bet mathematics at a reasonable level? 4. Is ConTeXt able to substitute LaTeX to typesetting of math (e.g. in the future)? 5. Can you think of any more questions that should be here? I hope that my question will help other beginners who would like to typing of mathematics use ConText - this unique and useful tool. Thanks for all the answers. Jaroslav Hajtmar ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl mailto:ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/__listinfo/ntg-context http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/__projects/contextrev/ http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___ ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___ -- - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context
[NTG-context] OT: Reflections on usability ConTeXt for typesetting of mathematics
Hello ConTeXist. I am very sorry for this OFF TOPIC contribution. For writing of this text led me several hours of searching on internet. I was looking for ways to typing of non-elementary math in ConTeXt Already a long time I use ConTeXt typesetting lot of different things and I am very satisfied. In the many things, of which I typed, was maths represented only marginally and minimally. Now I need to type some mathematics (at secondary school level) and I found that I came across borders of my knowledge of ConTeXt, or on possibilities of ConTeXt for typesetting of mathematics. I do not in any way call into question the ability of ConTeXt typesetting mathematics, although I think that who wants to type mathematics then use LaTeX. I want find experience of users of ConTeXt for real using of ConTeXt for typesetting of mathematics. I wonder how users use possible math modules (exist anything?) to be usable results. I have a few questions: 0. Do you think that this is only a problem for beginners of ConText or it is a general problem of ConTeXt? 1. How many of ConTeXt users use this tool for typesetting of non-elementary mathematics? 2. Are you satisfied with the results, which produces ConTeXt (thinking in the field of mathematics rate)? 3. What things do you need to have in ConTeXt study that one could bet mathematics at a reasonable level? 4. Is ConTeXt able to substitute LaTeX to typesetting of math (e.g. in the future)? 5. Can you think of any more questions that should be here? I hope that my question will help other beginners who would like to typing of mathematics use ConText - this unique and useful tool. Thanks for all the answers. Jaroslav Hajtmar ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] OT: Reflections on usability ConTeXt for typesetting of mathematics
Hi, I do use ConTeXt for typesetting mathematics, and actually I began to use ConTeXt several years ago for my work as a mathematician: up to now I haven’t encountered a single instance in which ConTeXt would not give the expected result, and as a matter of fact the out-of-the-box capabilities and the quality of the typestting when using ConTeXt seems to me quite superior to plain TeX or LaTeX. I use ConTeXt for writing exercise sheets, lecture notes, and drafts of papers and all the presentations for my talks. It is true that when submitting my papers to journals, unfortunately I have to switch back to LaTeX, but even so I prefer using ConTeXt in all the preparation steps because it is more convenient to use, and also I can use these notes directly for my lecture notes and presentations. Now coming to answer your questions: I have a few questions: 0. Do you think that this is only a problem for beginners of ConText or it is a general problem of ConTeXt? All depends on how complex one's document is, and how deep one’s knowledge of TeX and ConTeXt is. 1. How many of ConTeXt users use this tool for typesetting of non-elementary mathematics? I cannot say anything about the overall number of users, but as I said above I use it for the kind of maths I am doing: some of it is really not elementary… 2. Are you satisfied with the results, which produces ConTeXt (thinking in the field of mathematics rate)? I am absolutely satisfied with the results. 3. What things do you need to have in ConTeXt study that one could bet mathematics at a reasonable level? My knowledge of TeX and ConTeXt is rather elementary, but this does not prevent me to use ConTeXt. Moreover in the rare situations in which I don’t know how to achieve a certain result, there a good group of gurus on the mailing list to help solve my problem. 4. Is ConTeXt able to substitute LaTeX to typesetting of math (e.g. in the future)? For sure it is: the reason for which ConTeXt is seldom used among mathematicians (or other scientists) is the fact that journals have developped specific macros for their layout and despite the fact that the quality and shortcomings of LaTeX are well-known, publishers of these journals are more than reluctant to switch to a more modern macro package of TeX, such as ConTeXt. 5. Can you think of any more questions that should be here? Maybe one can imagine a script which would downgrade a file written in ConTeXt to a LaTeX file, once one accepts to lose the quality of the typesetting… Best regards: OK On 9 févr. 2014, at 20:09, Jaroslav Hajtmar hajt...@gyza.cz wrote: Hello ConTeXist. I am very sorry for this OFF TOPIC contribution. For writing of this text led me several hours of searching on internet. I was looking for ways to typing of non-elementary math in ConTeXt Already a long time I use ConTeXt typesetting lot of different things and I am very satisfied. In the many things, of which I typed, was maths represented only marginally and minimally. Now I need to type some mathematics (at secondary school level) and I found that I came across borders of my knowledge of ConTeXt, or on possibilities of ConTeXt for typesetting of mathematics. I do not in any way call into question the ability of ConTeXt typesetting mathematics, although I think that who wants to type mathematics then use LaTeX. I want find experience of users of ConTeXt for real using of ConTeXt for typesetting of mathematics. I wonder how users use possible math modules (exist anything?) to be usable results. I have a few questions: 0. Do you think that this is only a problem for beginners of ConText or it is a general problem of ConTeXt? 1. How many of ConTeXt users use this tool for typesetting of non-elementary mathematics? 2. Are you satisfied with the results, which produces ConTeXt (thinking in the field of mathematics rate)? 3. What things do you need to have in ConTeXt study that one could bet mathematics at a reasonable level? 4. Is ConTeXt able to substitute LaTeX to typesetting of math (e.g. in the future)? 5. Can you think of any more questions that should be here? I hope that my question will help other beginners who would like to typing of mathematics use ConText - this unique and useful tool. Thanks for all the answers. Jaroslav Hajtmar ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___ ___ If your question
Re: [NTG-context] OT: Reflections on usability ConTeXt for typesetting of mathematics
Thanks Otared. Many thanks for your reaction. Even if I would not not make any other statement than yours, so I'm clear at this time that the problem is probably sitting in front of a keyboard and monitor :-). Perhaps the problem is that the Internet is relatively little of mathematical demonstrations in ConTeXt, and if one is accustomed to some practices in LaTeX or use different packages, it can be a little taken aback ConTeXt. Now I also found that even though I dont switch fonts, so I worked in an environment that me from switching fonts and therefore some formulas look very bad. But it is my wrong. I've got to give more attention. Enthusiasm for my current project takes patience and sound reasoning. I've to give a time to prevents my mistakes. When I am not careful, then I am doing many of dificult searchable errors. Thanks for ConTeXt and thanks to all in this list for your advice and help. Jaroslav Hajtmar Dne 9.2.2014 23:31, Otared Kavian napsal(a): Hi, I do use ConTeXt for typesetting mathematics, and actually I began to use ConTeXt several years ago for my work as a mathematician: up to now I haven’t encountered a single instance in which ConTeXt would not give the expected result, and as a matter of fact the out-of-the-box capabilities and the quality of the typestting when using ConTeXt seems to me quite superior to plain TeX or LaTeX. I use ConTeXt for writing exercise sheets, lecture notes, and drafts of papers and all the presentations for my talks. It is true that when submitting my papers to journals, unfortunately I have to switch back to LaTeX, but even so I prefer using ConTeXt in all the preparation steps because it is more convenient to use, and also I can use these notes directly for my lecture notes and presentations. Now coming to answer your questions: I have a few questions: 0. Do you think that this is only a problem for beginners of ConText or it is a general problem of ConTeXt? All depends on how complex one's document is, and how deep one’s knowledge of TeX and ConTeXt is. 1. How many of ConTeXt users use this tool for typesetting of non-elementary mathematics? I cannot say anything about the overall number of users, but as I said above I use it for the kind of maths I am doing: some of it is really not elementary… 2. Are you satisfied with the results, which produces ConTeXt (thinking in the field of mathematics rate)? I am absolutely satisfied with the results. 3. What things do you need to have in ConTeXt study that one could bet mathematics at a reasonable level? My knowledge of TeX and ConTeXt is rather elementary, but this does not prevent me to use ConTeXt. Moreover in the rare situations in which I don’t know how to achieve a certain result, there a good group of gurus on the mailing list to help solve my problem. 4. Is ConTeXt able to substitute LaTeX to typesetting of math (e.g. in the future)? For sure it is: the reason for which ConTeXt is seldom used among mathematicians (or other scientists) is the fact that journals have developped specific macros for their layout and despite the fact that the quality and shortcomings of LaTeX are well-known, publishers of these journals are more than reluctant to switch to a more modern macro package of TeX, such as ConTeXt. 5. Can you think of any more questions that should be here? Maybe one can imagine a script which would downgrade a file written in ConTeXt to a LaTeX file, once one accepts to lose the quality of the typesetting… Best regards: OK On 9 févr. 2014, at 20:09, Jaroslav Hajtmar hajt...@gyza.cz wrote: Hello ConTeXist. I am very sorry for this OFF TOPIC contribution. For writing of this text led me several hours of searching on internet. I was looking for ways to typing of non-elementary math in ConTeXt Already a long time I use ConTeXt typesetting lot of different things and I am very satisfied. In the many things, of which I typed, was maths represented only marginally and minimally. Now I need to type some mathematics (at secondary school level) and I found that I came across borders of my knowledge of ConTeXt, or on possibilities of ConTeXt for typesetting of mathematics. I do not in any way call into question the ability of ConTeXt typesetting mathematics, although I think that who wants to type mathematics then use LaTeX. I want find experience of users of ConTeXt for real using of ConTeXt for typesetting of mathematics. I wonder how users use possible math modules (exist anything?) to be usable results. I have a few questions: 0. Do you think that this is only a problem for beginners of ConText or it is a general problem of ConTeXt? 1. How many of ConTeXt users use this tool for typesetting of non-elementary mathematics? 2. Are you satisfied with the results, which produces ConTeXt (thinking in the field of mathematics rate)? 3. What things do you need to have in ConTeXt study that one could bet mathematics
Re: [NTG-context] Simpleton bibliography
On 1/26/2014 1:01 AM, john Culleton wrote: A very recent (Jan 21) wiki article lists this example for a simple bibliography: - \usebtxdataset [mybibfile.bib] \setupbtxrendering [numbering=yes] - Now that is simple enough for starters. Question 1: What are the other options for \setupbtxrendering and what do they do? (In my world Bibliographies are seldom numbered.) Question 2: Suppose I want to follow a different standard, other than APA, such as harvard or Chicago or whatever: where do I code that choice and how? Are bst files still in play? Question 3: url is mentioned. Does that mean that url can actually used as a data field name? I am of the KISS persuasion (Keep It Simple Silly). All of furbelows and feathers that fascinate real experts are not my cup of code. Bless the real experts, without them there would be no TeX or Context, but I am not of their clan. All I want to do is: A: Create a list of books properly encoded in bibtex or similar style. Probably all the entries will be @book types. B: print items out of that list as I choose them with \cite or \nocite in a backmatter chapter called references or bibliography. this new bib interface is still in development and should not be used in production at all ... it's in the beta because that makes testing for Alan, Thomas, Luigi and me easier. It will take a few month before it's ready. The wiki has some info but again, that's an experiment where luigi creates pages from the export of the manual-in-flux. Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Simpleton bibliography
On 26 Jan 2014, at 12:00 , john Culleton j...@wexfordpress.com wrote Question 1: What are the other options for \setupbtxrendering and what do they do? (In my world Bibliographies are seldom numbered.) Question 2: Suppose I want to follow a different standard, other than APA, such as harvard or Chicago or whatever: where do I code that choice and how? Are bst files still in play? Question 3: url is mentioned. Does that mean that url can actually used as a data field name? Hi, I have struggled with Bibliographies and almost gave up, because of the non-standard, and changing, style requirements (like apa but different in details, with, moreover, three different styles for citations in footnotes: full data, a shorter version and a still shorter version, the latter probably (authoryear), but I'm still not sure). In the end I used for everything the category booklet, which is less of a straitjacket than the other categories. It gives you the freedom to put some extra details (if needed) in the title and also to style the author the way you want (for example Last name, First name or Last name, initials, or Initials Last name or whatever you want.) You can also use urls there, as far as I know. For consistency you would still need a bibl style file, for which I used a tweaked version of bibl-apa.tex. (which is in ~/context-minimal/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/bib) And a last thing: I input not the BibTeX database but the .bbl which I generate separately. I can tweak that if necessary or to add specific features, like horizontal lines in the Bibliography for repeated author names. (Another requirement which I personally don't like). Maybe all this is rather unworthy of ConTeXt but it is comparatively easy to accomplish and it works. I hope it helps. Best regards, Robert Blackstone ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Simpleton bibliography
A very recent (Jan 21) wiki article lists this example for a simple bibliography: - \usebtxdataset [mybibfile.bib] \setupbtxrendering [numbering=yes] - Now that is simple enough for starters. Question 1: What are the other options for \setupbtxrendering and what do they do? (In my world Bibliographies are seldom numbered.) Question 2: Suppose I want to follow a different standard, other than APA, such as harvard or Chicago or whatever: where do I code that choice and how? Are bst files still in play? Question 3: url is mentioned. Does that mean that url can actually used as a data field name? I am of the KISS persuasion (Keep It Simple Silly). All of furbelows and feathers that fascinate real experts are not my cup of code. Bless the real experts, without them there would be no TeX or Context, but I am not of their clan. All I want to do is: A: Create a list of books properly encoded in bibtex or similar style. Probably all the entries will be @book types. B: print items out of that list as I choose them with \cite or \nocite in a backmatter chapter called references or bibliography. -- John Culleton Wexford Press Free list of books for self-publishers: http://wexfordpress.net/shortlist.html PDF e-book: Create Book Covers with Scribus available at http://www.booklocker.com/books/4055.html ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] mkiv bibtex
Is the ISBN field supported yet? How about the url field? -- John Culleton Wexford Press Free list of books for self-publishers: http://wexfordpress.net/shortlist.html PDF e-book: Create Book Covers with Scribus available at http://www.booklocker.com/books/4055.html ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] setuphead for in-paragraph head ?
Hi Jean Guillaume,
I guess Marco Patzer and Wolfgang Schuster gave you already the appropriate
answers.
Nevertheless, I wanted to share with you the definitions I use for the kind of
work you want to do:
%%% begin example-exercise.tex
%%%
% defining \startexo, \stopexo as an enumeration:
\startsetups style:simple
\defineenumeration[exo]
[alternative=hanging,
width=fit,
stopper={.},
text=Exercise,
% between=,
before=,
after=\blank]
\stopsetups % style:simple
\startsetups style:textrule
\definenumber[MyExoNumber][way=bysection,sectionumber=yes]
\setuptextrules[rulecolor=darkred]
\define\ExoCommand{\incrementnumber[MyExoNumber]
\textrule[top]{Exercise \getnumber[MyExoNumber]}
\startbackground[frame=off,leftframe=on,backgroundcolor=white,
framecolor=darkred]}
\defineenumeration[exo]
[alternative=hanging,
width=fit,
text={},
number=hide,
number=no,
before={\ExoCommand},
after={\stopbackground\blank}]
\stopsetups % style:textrule
% end defining \startexo, \stopexo as an enumeration
%%%
%defining numbered questions
\defineconversion[exercise][\numbers]
%\setupitemize[packed]
\def\StartQuestions{%
\startitemize[exercise][width=2em,packed,style=bold,stopper=,right=)]}
\def\StopQuestions{\stopitemize}
\def\q{\item}
% trye each of the following
\setups[style:simple]
%\setups[style:textrule]
\starttext
\startexo
Prove that for all $a,b\in {\Bbb K}$, a field of characteristic 2, one has
$(a+b)^2 = a^2 + b^2$.
\stopexo
\startexo
Prove that for all $a,b\in {\Bbb K}$, a field of characteristic 2, one has
$(a+b)^4 = a^4 + b^4$.
\stopexo
\startexo
\StartQuestions
\q Prove that
\startformula
\sum_{n=1}^\infty{1 \over n^2} = {\pi^2 \over 6}.
\stopformula
\q Prove that for any $n \geq 1$ integer one has
\startformula
\sum_{k=1}^n k^3 = \left({n(n+1) \over 2}\right)^2.
\stopformula
\StopQuestions
\stopexo
\stoptext
%%% end example-exercise.tex
Best regards: OK
On 9 janv. 2014, at 14:23, Jean-Guillaume jng...@gmail.com wrote:
But this:
\definehead
[Exercise] [subsection]
[after=]
\starttext
\startExercise [title=This is the exercise's title]
The exercise's content.
\stopExercise
\stoptext
results to:
1 This is the exercise's title
The exercise's content.
and I would like it to be:
1 This is the exercise's title The exercise's content.
(When I can typeset that, I will see about formatting the number and so on.)
I'm sorry it wasn't very clear. Now I understand that I misunderstood
\startExercise{...} for \startExercise[title=...] and that's why I was
confused about which newline I want to get rid of.
Jean-Guillaume
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Re: [NTG-context] setuphead for in-paragraph head ?
Hello Otared.
I will throw this one... Thanx.
Once I was using exercise-answer package for LaTeX.
Is there anything like this to use in ConTeXt?
Thanx
Jaroslav Hajtmar
Dne 9.1.2014 15:19, Otared Kavian napsal(a):
%%% begin example-exercise.tex
%%%
% defining \startexo, \stopexo as an enumeration:
\startsetups style:simple
\defineenumeration[exo]
[alternative=hanging,
width=fit,
stopper={.},
text=Exercise,
% between=,
before=,
after=\blank]
\stopsetups % style:simple
\startsetups style:textrule
\definenumber[MyExoNumber][way=bysection,sectionumber=yes]
\setuptextrules[rulecolor=darkred]
\define\ExoCommand{\incrementnumber[MyExoNumber]
\textrule[top]{Exercise \getnumber[MyExoNumber]}
\startbackground[frame=off,leftframe=on,backgroundcolor=white,
framecolor=darkred]}
\defineenumeration[exo]
[alternative=hanging,
width=fit,
text={},
number=hide,
number=no,
before={\ExoCommand},
after={\stopbackground\blank}]
\stopsetups % style:textrule
% end defining \startexo, \stopexo as an enumeration
%%%
%defining numbered questions
\defineconversion[exercise][\numbers]
%\setupitemize[packed]
\def\StartQuestions{%
\startitemize[exercise][width=2em,packed,style=bold,stopper=,right=)]}
\def\StopQuestions{\stopitemize}
\def\q{\item}
% trye each of the following
\setups[style:simple]
%\setups[style:textrule]
\starttext
\startexo
Prove that for all $a,b\in {\Bbb K}$, a field of characteristic 2, one has
$(a+b)^2 = a^2 + b^2$.
\stopexo
\startexo
Prove that for all $a,b\in {\Bbb K}$, a field of characteristic 2, one has
$(a+b)^4 = a^4 + b^4$.
\stopexo
\startexo
\StartQuestions
\q Prove that
\startformula
\sum_{n=1}^\infty{1 \over n^2} = {\pi^2 \over 6}.
\stopformula
\q Prove that for any $n \geq 1$ integer one has
\startformula
\sum_{k=1}^n k^3 = \left({n(n+1) \over 2}\right)^2.
\stopformula
\StopQuestions
\stopexo
\stoptext
%%% end example-exercise.tex
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Re: [NTG-context] setuphead for in-paragraph head ?
On 9 janv. 2014, at 15:48, Jaroslav Hajtmar hajt...@gyza.cz wrote:
Hello Otared.
I will throw this one... Thanx.
Once I was using exercise-answer package for LaTeX.
Is there anything like this to use in ConTeXt?
Thanx
Jaroslav Hajtmar
Hello Jaroslav,
I have something like the following which was given to me by Hans a long time
ago: unfortunately for some reason this does not work anymore with ConTeXt
mkiv, but it is quite fine with mkii:
%%% begin question-hint-answer.tex
\defineblock[question]
\defineblock[hint]
\defineblock[answer]
\defineenumeration[question][location=hanging,text={Question},stopper={.}]
\defineenumeration[hint][location=hanging,text={Hint for question},stopper={.}]
\defineenumeration[answer][location=hanging,text={Answer to
question},stopper={.}]
\hideblocks[hint]
\hideblocks[answer]
\starttext
\section{Questions}
\beginquestion
\question Compute $4\times 5$.
\beginhint
\hint Use the fact that $2\times 5 = 10$.
\endhint
\beginanswer
\answer $20$.
\endanswer
\endquestion
\beginquestion
\question What is the value of $100 / 10$?
\beginhint
\hint Remember that $10\times 10 = 100$.
\endhint
\beginanswer
\answer $10$
\endanswer
\endquestion
\section{Hints}
\useblocks[hint]
\section{Answers}
\useblocks[answer]
\stoptext
%%% end question-hint-answer.tex
Best regards: OK
Dne 9.1.2014 15:19, Otared Kavian napsal(a):
%%% begin example-exercise.tex
%%%
% defining \startexo, \stopexo as an enumeration:
\startsetups style:simple
\defineenumeration[exo]
[alternative=hanging,
width=fit,
stopper={.},
text=Exercise,
%between=,
before=,
after=\blank]
\stopsetups % style:simple
\startsetups style:textrule
\definenumber[MyExoNumber][way=bysection,sectionumber=yes]
\setuptextrules[rulecolor=darkred]
\define\ExoCommand{\incrementnumber[MyExoNumber]
\textrule[top]{Exercise \getnumber[MyExoNumber]}
\startbackground[frame=off,leftframe=on,backgroundcolor=white,
framecolor=darkred]}
\defineenumeration[exo]
[alternative=hanging,
width=fit,
text={},
number=hide,
number=no,
before={\ExoCommand},
after={\stopbackground\blank}]
\stopsetups % style:textrule
% end defining \startexo, \stopexo as an enumeration
%%%
%defining numbered questions
\defineconversion[exercise][\numbers]
%\setupitemize[packed]
\def\StartQuestions{%
\startitemize[exercise][width=2em,packed,style=bold,stopper=,right=)]}
\def\StopQuestions{\stopitemize}
\def\q{\item}
% trye each of the following
\setups[style:simple]
%\setups[style:textrule]
\starttext
\startexo
Prove that for all $a,b\in {\Bbb K}$, a field of characteristic 2, one has
$(a+b)^2 = a^2 + b^2$.
\stopexo
\startexo
Prove that for all $a,b\in {\Bbb K}$, a field of characteristic 2, one has
$(a+b)^4 = a^4 + b^4$.
\stopexo
\startexo
\StartQuestions
\q Prove that
\startformula
\sum_{n=1}^\infty{1 \over n^2} = {\pi^2 \over 6}.
\stopformula
\q Prove that for any $n \geq 1$ integer one has
\startformula
\sum_{k=1}^n k^3 = \left({n(n+1) \over 2}\right)^2.
\stopformula
\StopQuestions
\stopexo
\stoptext
%%% end example-exercise.tex
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[NTG-context] betas
Hi, As some of you might have noticed, we're in transition to luatex 0.80 (currently 0.78.1). This binary is somewhat faster with respect to nodes without modification of Lua code, but it also provides an additional node field access mechanism. Luigi and I spent quite some time on getting that done and in the process some 70 context files were adapted (as we needed to test). However, it's likely that I have missed some needed changes. As both access mechanisms cannot be mixed, one has to be consistent in usage. Also, the somewhat faster (new) usage is more sensitive for errors so it has to be used with robust (proven) code (read: pluggable code can best use the traditional node field accessors which also have been sped up). And of course it only makes sense for very demanding cases (as stock luatex is already rather efficient now), think of devanagari (where we can get 50% faster) and complex arabic (some 25%). As ConTeXt spends 50% of its time in Lua it might make a difference in other places too. Anyway, for instance the 175 fonts-mkiv manual processes 10% faster due to this and sometimes more can be achieved (it really depends on how much Lua enhanced mechanisms are used). Roughly I get on my win 8.1 64 bit laptop for the font manual: 10sec luatex0.77 with previous context code base 10.25 sec luatex0.77 with current context code base 9.00 sec luatex0.78 with current context code base 7.50 sec luajittex 0.78 with current context code base (This manual loads quite some fonts in the process.) In case you wonder why speed is an issue: it really matters when tex is used as a service, and I like fast edit-test cycles too. The target is to get 20 pps or more even for complex documents. It's not that hard to get 550 pps for simple 1000 page one-word-per page documents but when much more kicks in we quickly drop to 15-20 pps. Also, Luigi and I also want to reach reasonable speeds on android phones (triggered by Harald's experiments at the context meeting) but that's another topic. Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] wider item numbering in toc
Indeed, \setuplist[chapter][width=3em] makes the chapternumber set in a wider field. But the alignment is as bad as it was: flushleft, i.e. the 1 of chapter 10 still aligns with the units from the lower chapters instead of aligning to the zero. I looked up \setuplist in the command catalogue but cannot find a parameter to align this number, either to the right or to the left. It just seems to stick with the builtin default. I tried something like \setupitemgroup[chapter][][][itemalign=left (also tried right)] but to no avail. Hans van der Meer On 6 dec. 2013, at 17:41, Wolfgang Schuster schuster.wolfg...@gmail.com wrote: Am 06.12.2013 um 17:32 schrieb H. van der Meer h.vanderm...@uva.nl: Which numbers are wrong, the section numbers or the page numbers? The chapter numbers. See the jpg below. The 10 with its separator is too far to the right. This is normal because the numbers are aligned on the left margin, when the space for the number is too narrow you have to increase the width value, e.g. \setuplist[chapter][width=3em]. Wolfgang ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___ ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] wider item numbering in toc
Am 06.12.2013 um 20:20 schrieb H. van der Meer h.vanderm...@uva.nl:
Indeed, \setuplist[chapter][width=3em] makes the chapternumber set in a wider
field.
But the alignment is as bad as it was: flushleft, i.e. the 1 of chapter 10
still aligns with the units from the lower chapters instead of aligning to
the zero.
I looked up \setuplist in the command catalogue but cannot find a parameter
to align this number, either to the right or to the left. It just seems to
stick with the builtin default.
\define[1]\ChapterListNumber
{\simplealignedbox{\listparameter{width}}{flushright}{#1}}
\setuplist[chapter][width=2em,distance=1em,numbercommand=\ChapterListNumber]
\starttext
\title{Table of contents}
\placecontent
\dorecurse{20}{\chapter{Chapter #1}}
\stoptext
I tried something like \setupitemgroup[chapter][][][itemalign=left (also
tried right)] but to no avail.
Why do you think lists use the itemgroup/itemize mechanism?
Wolfgang
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Re: [NTG-context] wider item numbering in toc
\define[1]\ChapterListNumber
{\simplealignedbox{\listparameter{width}}{flushright}{#1}}
\setuplist[chapter][width=2em,distance=1em,numbercommand=\ChapterListNumber]
This now gives a toc looking the way I like.
May I lay at your foot a plea for a change/additional parameter here?
\setuplist[][itemalign=left/right] or something in that sense.
For numbered chapters I consider an alignment as below most natural, although
opinions may differ.
8
9
10
11
instead of
8
9
10
11
By the way, the \define[1] eludes me. Why this particular [1] there?
Why do you think lists use the itemgroup/itemize mechanism?
I didn’t think that exactly, but just tried it in despair and having the idea
that toc items are set as an itemized list (it looks that way, isn’t it?).
Hans van der Meer
On 6 dec. 2013, at 20:36, Wolfgang Schuster schuster.wolfg...@gmail.com wrote:
Am 06.12.2013 um 20:20 schrieb H. van der Meer h.vanderm...@uva.nl:
Indeed, \setuplist[chapter][width=3em] makes the chapternumber set in a
wider field.
But the alignment is as bad as it was: flushleft, i.e. the 1 of chapter 10
still aligns with the units from the lower chapters instead of aligning to
the zero.
I looked up \setuplist in the command catalogue but cannot find a parameter
to align this number, either to the right or to the left. It just seems to
stick with the builtin default.
\define[1]\ChapterListNumber
{\simplealignedbox{\listparameter{width}}{flushright}{#1}}
\setuplist[chapter][width=2em,distance=1em,numbercommand=\ChapterListNumber]
\starttext
\title{Table of contents}
\placecontent
\dorecurse{20}{\chapter{Chapter #1}}
\stoptext
I tried something like \setupitemgroup[chapter][][][itemalign=left (also
tried right)] but to no avail.
Wolfgang
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Re: [NTG-context] \attachment
On 11/29/2013 12:51 AM, Aditya Mahajan wrote:
It seems that there is a mixup in the backend code for including an
attachment.
For example, when I use:
\setupinteraction[state=start]
\starttext
The current file is \attachment[tag][file=\jobname.tex, name=test.tex,
title={Whatever}]
\stoptext
I was expecting that the current file will be attached as test.tex and
title Whatever. However, the title of the attached file is tag.
See the attached screenshot from Adobe Reader.
It seems that in the back end, tag is written to the PDF file where
title should have been written.
we can do this (line 308 of lpdf-wid)
if author == and title ~= then
author = title
title = filename or
end
but you can also add an author field to the specification as what shows
up in the pdf is partly the side effect of fallbacks for missing fields
(and ... it's one of these pdf features that is unreliable anyway as
it's viewer dependent .. read: specs before implementations and then
acrobat behavior defining what will happen; the whole 'associate
rendering with some annotation mechanism is fragile as depending on the
version of acrobat it works this or that way, probably because no
application uses plugged-in rendering, it's the same with form fields
... a depressing mess)
Hans
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Re: [NTG-context] PDF bookmarks - incorrect titles for registers
On 2013-11-18 Jan Tosovsky wrote:
when I specify custom titles for my registers, they are ignored in
bookmarks:
\setupinteraction[state=start]
\placebookmarks[chapter]
\setupinteractionscreen[option=bookmark]
\defineregister[indexname][indexnames]
\defineregister[indexsubject][indexsubjects]
\setupheadtext[indexname=Name Index]
\setupheadtext[indexsubject=Subject Index]
\starttext
\completecontent
\chapter{Chapter}text\indexname{primary}\indexsubject{primary}
\startbackmatter
\completeindexname
\completeindexsubject
\stopbackmatter
\stoptext
Is it necessary to switch something else on?
According to the proposed solution at
http://tracker.luatex.org/view.php?id=865
it can be switched on using this magic formula
\enabledirectives[references.bookmarks.preroll]
What is the correct usage of this? And are there any details why it is
required and what exactly it does?
When it is added to the beginning of my example, it returns an error:
attempt to call field 'boxtostring' (a nil value)
But to be honest, I'd expect setting this flag internally by default as I
cannot imagine any use case where the index ID should be preferred in favor
of the title...
Jan
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Re: [NTG-context] PDF bookmarks - incorrect titles for registers
On 11/26/2013 8:03 PM, Jan Tosovsky wrote:
On 2013-11-18 Jan Tosovsky wrote:
when I specify custom titles for my registers, they are ignored in
bookmarks:
\setupinteraction[state=start]
\placebookmarks[chapter]
\setupinteractionscreen[option=bookmark]
\defineregister[indexname][indexnames]
\defineregister[indexsubject][indexsubjects]
\setupheadtext[indexname=Name Index]
\setupheadtext[indexsubject=Subject Index]
\starttext
\completecontent
\chapter{Chapter}text\indexname{primary}\indexsubject{primary}
\startbackmatter
\completeindexname
\completeindexsubject
\stopbackmatter
\stoptext
Is it necessary to switch something else on?
According to the proposed solution at
http://tracker.luatex.org/view.php?id=865
it can be switched on using this magic formula
\enabledirectives[references.bookmarks.preroll]
What is the correct usage of this? And are there any details why it is
required and what exactly it does?
by default the title is set to a label which is not expandable
the directive will convert the typeset title into a bookmark
When it is added to the beginning of my example, it returns an error:
attempt to call field 'boxtostring' (a nil value)
ah, only in my experimental tree, i'll add it to the beta
But to be honest, I'd expect setting this flag internally by default as I
cannot imagine any use case where the index ID should be preferred in favor
of the title...
as titles can be anything and bookmarks are limited, we need to have
some protection in place ... unexpandable macros are simply dropped so
\labeltext{index} becomes index
Hans
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Re: [NTG-context] PDF bookmarks - incorrect titles for registers
On 2013-11-26 Hans Hagen wrote:
On 11/26/2013 8:03 PM, Jan Tosovsky wrote:
On 2013-11-18 Jan Tosovsky wrote:
when I specify custom titles for my registers, they are ignored in
bookmarks:
\setupinteraction[state=start]
\placebookmarks[chapter]
\setupinteractionscreen[option=bookmark]
\defineregister[indexname][indexnames]
\defineregister[indexsubject][indexsubjects]
\setupheadtext[indexname=Name Index]
\setupheadtext[indexsubject=Subject Index]
\starttext
\completecontent
\chapter{Chapter}text\indexname{primary}\indexsubject{primary}
\startbackmatter
\completeindexname
\completeindexsubject
\stopbackmatter
\stoptext
Is it necessary to switch something else on?
According to the proposed solution at
http://tracker.luatex.org/view.php?id=865
it can be switched on using this magic formula
\enabledirectives[references.bookmarks.preroll]
What is the correct usage of this? And are there any details why it
is required and what exactly it does?
as titles can be anything and bookmarks are limited, we need to have
some protection in place ... unexpandable macros are simply dropped so
\labeltext{index} becomes index
by default the title is set to a label which is not expandable
the directive will convert the typeset title into a bookmark
Thanks for this detailed explanation. If I understand correctly, this switch
is intentional and won't be applied automatically even for registers or
other peculiar cases where title is specified differently/unexpectedly.
When it is added to the beginning of my example, it returns an error:
attempt to call field 'boxtostring' (a nil value)
ah, only in my experimental tree, i'll add it to the beta
Thanks, but this one is not so urgent.
Jan
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Re: [NTG-context] PDF bookmarks - incorrect titles for registers
On 11/26/2013 8:30 PM, Jan Tosovsky wrote: Thanks for this detailed explanation. If I understand correctly, this switch is intentional and won't be applied automatically even for registers or other peculiar cases where title is specified differently/unexpectedly. the bookmark setting defaults to the title itself but you can always set a bookmark title explicitly with bookmark= When it is added to the beginning of my example, it returns an error: attempt to call field 'boxtostring' (a nil value) ah, only in my experimental tree, i'll add it to the beta Thanks, but this one is not so urgent. Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] EPUB woes
Hi All, I find that the ConTeXt approach to creating the EPub is flawed is a fundemental way! NOT TECHNICALLY. The EPub Standard is a big mess and if you really look at not a true standard in a true sense. Let me explain. 1) The file structure is well documented and properly defines the way a EPub file MUST contain and how file therein must be structure and listed. (notice that I use the word MUST) 2) Now, what a EPub-READER must implement to handle is very little. There are HARDLY ANY provisions that a certified EPuB-READER has to implement any particular engine or features therein to display/render the information contain in the EPub-file/wrapper. In other words it is simply a wrapper file format. and truly nothing more. There is NO REQUIREMENT in the standard that perfectly valid xhtml or HTML5 will be properly displayed in a certified EPub Reader! The standard has become more strict in recent years, yet still lacking. Am 16.11.2013 um 18:37 schrieb Aditya Mahajan adit...@umich.edu: [snip, snip] When you run `mtxrun --script epub --make test`, it just takes the files specificied in the files field, and zips them in as a epub file. Now, in principle, any epub reader should support the any XHTML file; in practice, they only support the default XHTML tags. The XML+CSS file that ConTeXt generates are not handled correctly by most (all?) EPUB readers. Here is where my critic of ConTeXt approach grabs. What good is if one produces a perfectly correct EPub, yet hardly any EPub reader can handle. I remember correctly, an EPub Reader need not implement the handling of xhtml inorder to be certified or, if you wish, adhere to the standard. The basic reason why xhtml is handled is because most html renders handle xhtml. Yet, the standard only requires that very basic html features be implemented and the author is required to offer fallbacks incase features are not supported. So there are three options: 1. Wait until the EPUB readers catch up. It took almost 10-15 years for the browsers to catch up with the HTML standards, and I don't have much hope for EPUB readers here. Last I checked, none of them supported even MATHML-2. Like I mentioned above a EPub reader is not REQUIRED to support it! 2. Write a script (either using xmlproc, or using you favorite XML parser in your favorite language) that converts the XML generated by ConTeXt into a standard XHTML file. This is the easiest and the least time consuming alternative. AGAIN, as mentioned above there is no guarantee that it will be displayed properly. Support/export of HTML5 would seem to me to be a better option, but then the HTML5 standard is not complete and not fully supported by most newer ereaders, also. 3. Modify the way in which ConTeXt generates the XML files. Ideally, I should be able to write something like Would be nice if there where commands in ConTeXt or a module for defining what should go into the CSS and a mode epub where the ConTeXt commands are converted to suitible HTML5 structures that are suitiable for most ereaders. Features: 1) margins in percentages 2) font sizes based on em 3) a new file for every chapter optional for sections user defined Just a few. Lots more can be found in any decent documentation on writing ebooks. regards Keith. ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] EPUB woes
On Sat, 16 Nov 2013, Bill Meahan wrote:
I would /expect/ to get a valid EPUB file, or so I'm lead to believe.
At the moment, I'm simply trying it out using Hans' export-example.tex file
that comes as part of the standard ConTeXt distribution, either Standalone or
part of one of the other distributions. I haven't even opened the
export-example.tex file in an editor (yet) in this round of trials and I've
even run the script against it right in the /base/ directory where it is
found in the distribution so I don't understand why it is not producing a
valid EPUB. Once I've got that sorted out, I can try applying the lessons
learned to my own documents.
ConTeXt provides two types of exports. The first is an XML export.
Consider a sample file:
~~~ {test.tex}
\setupbackend[export=yes]
\starttext
\startsection[title={This is a test}]
\startparagraph
Some random text
\startitemize
\item First
\item Second
\stopitemize
\stopparagraph
\stopsection
\stoptext
~~~
Running `context test.tex` generates a `test.export` file that looks as
follows:
~~~ {test.export}
?xml version='1.0' encoding='UTF-8' standalone='yes' ?
!-- input filename : test --
!-- processing date : Sat Nov 16 12:19:59 2013 --
!-- context version : 2013.11.01 15:02 --
!-- exporter version : 0.30 --
document language=en file=test date=Sat Nov 16 12:19:59 2013
context=2013.11.01 15:02 version=0.30
xmlns:m=http://www.w3.org/1998/Math/MathML;
section detail=section location='aut:1'
sectionnumber1/sectionnumber
sectiontitleThis is a test/sectiontitle
sectioncontent
paragraphSome random text itemgroup detail=itemize
symbol=1itemitemtagm:math display=inline!-- begin m:mrow
--m:mo•/m:mo!-- end m:mrow
--/m:math/itemtagitemcontentFirst/itemcontent/item
itemitemtagm:math display=inline!-- begin m:mrow
--m:mo•/m:mo!-- end m:mrow
--/m:math/itemtagitemcontentSecond/itemcontent/item/itemgroup/paragraph
/sectioncontent
/section
/document
~~~
which is simply an XML representation of the document.
In prinicple, if one adds an appropriate CSS file with that XML, any
recent browser will be able to display it. So, if you change the first
line of `test.tex` to
~~~
\setupbackend[export=yes, xhtml=yes, css=yes]
~~~
and run `context test.tex`, you will get four additional files:
`test.xhtml`, `test-styles.css`, `test-images.css`, and
`test.specification`.
The `test.xhtml` file look as follows:
~~~{test.xhtml}
?xml version='1.0' encoding='UTF-8' standalone='yes' ?
!-- input filename : test --
!-- processing date : Sat Nov 16 12:22:58 2013 --
!-- context version : 2013.11.01 15:02 --
!-- exporter version : 0.30 --
?xml-stylesheet type=text/css href=test-styles.css?
?xml-stylesheet type=text/css href=test-images.css?
?xml-stylesheet type=text/css href=export-example.css?
document language=en version=0.30 file=test
xmlns:xhtml=http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml;
xmlns:m=http://www.w3.org/1998/Math/MathML; date=Sat Nov 16 12:22:58
2013 context=2013.11.01 15:02
xhtml:a name=aut_1section location=aut:1 detail=section
sectionnumber1/sectionnumber
sectiontitleThis is a test/sectiontitle
sectioncontent
paragraphSome random text itemgroup symbol=1
detail=itemizeitemitemtagm:math display=inline!-- begin m:mrow
--m:mo•/m:mo!-- end m:mrow
--/m:math/itemtagitemcontentFirst/itemcontent/item
itemitemtagm:math display=inline!-- begin m:mrow
--m:mo•/m:mo!-- end m:mrow
--/m:math/itemtagitemcontentSecond/itemcontent/item/itemgroup/paragraph
/sectioncontent
/section/xhtml:a
/document
~~~
Notice that apart from the three lines specifying the CSS files, the rest
of the document is the same as in XML export. The two css files,
`test-styles.css` and `test-images.css` include the relevant code for the
style modifications and images in the document. The css file
`export-example.css` comes with the ConTeXt distribution and has the
default values for most ConTeXt elements.
If you open the `test.xhtml` file in any browser, it will work correctly
(because an XHTML markup is extensible and can use any XML tags as long as
the behavior of the tag is specified in a CSS file). This is, however, not
a XHTML file that includes the default XHTML markup (h1, p, ul,
etc.)
Now, lets come back to the last file generated by the export:
`test.specification`. This is a lua file that contains:
~~~{test.specification}
return {
[files]={ test-styles.css, test-images.css, export-example.css,
test.xhtml },
[identifier]=e6a91a13-4e08-9494-3817-bfffe872be2c,
[images]={},
[language]=en,
[name]=test,
[root]=test.xhtml,
}
When you run `mtxrun --script epub --make test`, it just takes the files
specificied in the files field, and zips them in as a epub file.
Now, in principle, any epub reader should support the any XHTML file; in
practice, they only support the default XHTML tags. The XML+CSS file
[NTG-context] LuaTeX fonts script update error
Just installed the ConTeXt standalone, and the fonts script doesn't seem to work: % mtxrun --script fonts --list .../context/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/font-trt.lua:11: attempt to index field 'names' (a nil value) Commenting out line 11 seems to make the script function. mathew ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] LuaTeX fonts script update error
On 10/7/2013 9:22 PM, mathew wrote: Just installed the ConTeXt standalone, and the fonts script doesn't seem to work: % mtxrun --script fonts --list .../context/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/font-trt.lua:11: attempt to index field 'names' (a nil value) Commenting out line 11 seems to make the script function. the new order is: dofile(resolvers.findfile(font-syn.lua,tex)) dofile(resolvers.findfile(font-trt.lua,tex)) - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Module documentation broken
Hi, the module documentation is broken when it contains certain macros, e.g. \METAPOST. mtxrun --script modules --process auto:meta-pag.mkiv yields pagesflushing realpage 1, userpage 1 pagesflushing realpage 2, userpage 1 error: .../context/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/node-fnt.lua:129: attempt to index field '?' (a boolean value) system tex error on line 20 in file ../meta-pag-mkiv.ted: ? ... Marco signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Inline math in table in combination fails
On 9/19/2013 1:27 AM, Marco Patzer wrote:
Hi,
The following example results in the error “You can't assign a
glue_spec node to a prev field”
\starttext
\startcombination [2*1]
{\starttable [|c|]
\NC \math{1} \VL\NR\HL
\stoptable}{}
{\starttable [|c|]
\NC \math{2} \VL\NR
\stoptable}{}
\stopcombination
\stoptext
It works without the combination, without the vertical or horizontal
rule and when no math mode is used. It used to work some time ago,
so I assume it's a bug.
it went unnoticed as works in my experimental branch ... i just forgot
to copy back a variable initialization
fixed
Hans
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Re: [NTG-context] Broken nightly (2013.09.18)
On Thu, 2013-09-19 at 14:25 -0700, Kip Warner wrote:
It looks as though the problem is buried in line 596 of font-syn.lua.
For some reason s.angle is typed as a Lua string and not a number.
local angle = f_a(s.angle or 0)
I tried patching the above with the following...
local angle = f_a(tonumber(s.angle) or 0)
...and the Lua compiler does appear to consume that line successfully,
but a new error I cannot decipher creeps up...
error: /usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/math-noa.lua:156: You
can't assign a glue_spec node to a prev field
.
\textmath ...\normalstartimath #1\normalstopimath
\endgroup \fi
\symb_place_indeed ...name \??symbol #1\endcsname
\relax
\endgroup
\symb_place_retry ...name \symb_place_indeed {:#1}
\else #1\fi
\symb_place_normal_c ...lace_retry \currentsymbol
\fi
\symb_place_normal_b ...else \symb_place_normal_c
\fi
\symb_place_indeed ...name \??symbol #1\endcsname
\relax
\endgroup
...
l.103 \eTABLE
That also appears to be buried deep inside Hans' math routines. I can't
figure out exactly what he is trying to do, but it looks as though it
has something to do with calculating correct values for fonts.
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Re: [NTG-context] Broken nightly (2013.09.18)
On 9/19/2013 11:48 PM, Kip Warner wrote: On Thu, 2013-09-19 at 14:25 -0700, Kip Warner wrote: It looks as though the problem is buried in line 596 of font-syn.lua. For some reason s.angle is typed as a Lua string and not a number. local angle = f_a(s.angle or 0) I tried patching the above with the following... local angle = f_a(tonumber(s.angle) or 0) ok (fyi: these are new entries for wolfgang's module) and the Lua compiler does appear to consume that line successfully, but a new error I cannot decipher creeps up... error: /usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/math-noa.lua:156: You can't assign a glue_spec node to a prev field that is already fixed Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Inline math in table in combination fails
Hi,
The following example results in the error “You can't assign a
glue_spec node to a prev field”
\starttext
\startcombination [2*1]
{\starttable [|c|]
\NC \math{1} \VL\NR\HL
\stoptable}{}
{\starttable [|c|]
\NC \math{2} \VL\NR
\stoptable}{}
\stopcombination
\stoptext
It works without the combination, without the vertical or horizontal
rule and when no math mode is used. It used to work some time ago,
so I assume it's a bug.
Marco
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Re: [NTG-context] beta
On 2013–08–24 Hans Hagen wrote: On 8/24/2013 2:08 AM, Marco Patzer wrote: On 2013–08–24 Hans Hagen wrote: On 8/23/2013 2:41 PM, Otared Kavian wrote: Hi Hans, This is a very nice feature indeed. Out of curiosity, I wondered whether it is possible to to have \placeinitial to work with \definefirstline, or a variant of it: that is not only have the first character of the first sentence as a dropped capital, but also the first line (or first few words) for instance in smallcaps. I played with that before uploading but it was somewhat tricky. Anyway, I redid some code so now you can do this: Did you forget to add a file? loading ConTeXt Typesetting Macros / First Lines ! LuaTeX error ...o/ctx/te/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/typo-fln.lua:44: attempt to index field 'pool' (a nil value) stack traceback: ...o/ctx/te/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/typo-fln.lua:44: in function 'code' ...o/ctx/te/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/util-lua.lua:84: in function 'loadedluacode' ...o/ctx/te/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/luat-env.lua:104: in function 'luafilechunk' ...o/ctx/te/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/luat-cod.lua:45: in function 'registercode' [string \directlua ]:1: in main chunk. system tex error on line 53 in file /home/marco/ctx/te/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/typo-fln.mkiv: LuaTeX error ... hm, just some missing code in one of the files (i have two sets, a fast set and a traditional set, and i normally work with the fast There still seems to be something missing in the new upload. Making the format still fails: loading ConTeXt Typesetting Macros / First Lines ! LuaTeX error ...o/ctx/te/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/typo-fln.lua:44: attempt to index field 'nodes' (a nil value) stack traceback: ...o/ctx/te/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/typo-fln.lua:44: in function 'code' ...o/ctx/te/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/util-lua.lua:84: in function 'loadedluacode' ...o/ctx/te/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/luat-env.lua:104: in function 'luafilechunk' ...o/ctx/te/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/luat-cod.lua:45: in function 'registercode' [string \directlua ]:1: in main chunk. system tex error on line 53 in file /home/marco/ctx/te/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/typo-fln.mkiv: LuaTeX error ... Marco signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] beta
On 2013–08–24 Hans Hagen wrote: On 8/23/2013 2:41 PM, Otared Kavian wrote: Hi Hans, This is a very nice feature indeed. Out of curiosity, I wondered whether it is possible to to have \placeinitial to work with \definefirstline, or a variant of it: that is not only have the first character of the first sentence as a dropped capital, but also the first line (or first few words) for instance in smallcaps. I played with that before uploading but it was somewhat tricky. Anyway, I redid some code so now you can do this: Did you forget to add a file? loading ConTeXt Typesetting Macros / First Lines ! LuaTeX error ...o/ctx/te/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/typo-fln.lua:44: attempt to index field 'pool' (a nil value) stack traceback: ...o/ctx/te/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/typo-fln.lua:44: in function 'code' ...o/ctx/te/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/util-lua.lua:84: in function 'loadedluacode' ...o/ctx/te/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/luat-env.lua:104: in function 'luafilechunk' ...o/ctx/te/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/luat-cod.lua:45: in function 'registercode' [string \directlua ]:1: in main chunk. system tex error on line 53 in file /home/marco/ctx/te/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/typo-fln.mkiv: LuaTeX error ... Marco signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] beta
On 8/24/2013 2:08 AM, Marco Patzer wrote: On 2013–08–24 Hans Hagen wrote: On 8/23/2013 2:41 PM, Otared Kavian wrote: Hi Hans, This is a very nice feature indeed. Out of curiosity, I wondered whether it is possible to to have \placeinitial to work with \definefirstline, or a variant of it: that is not only have the first character of the first sentence as a dropped capital, but also the first line (or first few words) for instance in smallcaps. I played with that before uploading but it was somewhat tricky. Anyway, I redid some code so now you can do this: Did you forget to add a file? loading ConTeXt Typesetting Macros / First Lines ! LuaTeX error ...o/ctx/te/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/typo-fln.lua:44: attempt to index field 'pool' (a nil value) stack traceback: ...o/ctx/te/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/typo-fln.lua:44: in function 'code' ...o/ctx/te/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/util-lua.lua:84: in function 'loadedluacode' ...o/ctx/te/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/luat-env.lua:104: in function 'luafilechunk' ...o/ctx/te/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/luat-cod.lua:45: in function 'registercode' [string \directlua ]:1: in main chunk. system tex error on line 53 in file /home/marco/ctx/te/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/typo-fln.mkiv: LuaTeX error ... hm, just some missing code in one of the files (i have two sets, a fast set and a traditional set, and i normally work with the fast set) Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] new beta luatex error
\starttext foo \stoptext ! LuaTeX error [string \directlua ]:1: attempt to call field 'resetprevdepth' (a nil value) stack traceback: [string \directlua ]:1: in main chunk. Marco signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] new beta luatex error
On 7/31/2013 10:56 PM, Marco Patzer wrote: \starttext foo \stoptext ! LuaTeX error [string \directlua ]:1: attempt to call field 'resetprevdepth' (a nil value) stack traceback: [string \directlua ]:1: in main chunk. not here ... maybe spac-ver.lua has not been updated at your end? - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] new beta luatex error
On 2013–07–31 Hans Hagen wrote: On 7/31/2013 10:56 PM, Marco Patzer wrote: \starttext foo \stoptext ! LuaTeX error [string \directlua ]:1: attempt to call field 'resetprevdepth' (a nil value) stack traceback: [string \directlua ]:1: in main chunk. not here ... maybe spac-ver.lua has not been updated at your end? No, it has not. spac-ver.mkiv:2099 calls resetprevdepth which is not defined in spac-ver.lua. The file has not been updated in your zip (so I assume it's not just me). Marco signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] new beta luatex error
On 31 juil. 2013, at 23:43, Marco Patzer home...@lavabit.com wrote: On 2013–07–31 Hans Hagen wrote: On 7/31/2013 10:56 PM, Marco Patzer wrote: \starttext foo \stoptext ! LuaTeX error [string \directlua ]:1: attempt to call field 'resetprevdepth' (a nil value) stack traceback: [string \directlua ]:1: in main chunk. not here ... maybe spac-ver.lua has not been updated at your end? No, it has not. spac-ver.mkiv:2099 calls resetprevdepth which is not defined in spac-ver.lua. The file has not been updated in your zip (so I assume it's not just me). Marco I can confirm this: I get the same error message after updating to the new beta (ConTeXt ver: 2013.07.31 20:23 MKIV beta fmt: 2013.7.31 int: english/english). Best regards: OK ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] new beta luatex error
On 7/31/2013 11:43 PM, Marco Patzer wrote: On 2013–07–31 Hans Hagen wrote: On 7/31/2013 10:56 PM, Marco Patzer wrote: \starttext foo \stoptext ! LuaTeX error [string \directlua ]:1: attempt to call field 'resetprevdepth' (a nil value) stack traceback: [string \directlua ]:1: in main chunk. not here ... maybe spac-ver.lua has not been updated at your end? No, it has not. spac-ver.mkiv:2099 calls resetprevdepth which is not defined in spac-ver.lua. The file has not been updated in your zip (so I assume it's not just me). Ah. I patched only the 'experimental' files on my system (these cannot yet be included in the distribution as a newer luatex is needed). I uploaded a new zip. Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] luajittex not able to find some fonts
On 18/06/13 23:35, Hans Hagen wrote:
On 6/18/2013 11:05 PM, Pablo Rodríguez wrote:
Dear list,
I wonder whether this would be interesting to the luajittex developers,
but for some strange reason when I invoke context with
--engine=luajittex, only some system fonts are found.
My guess is that with luajittext the most recently installed system
fonts aren't the ones not found.
Just in case it might help,
maybe there is something wrong in your setup as it works ok here
maybe deleting the cache helps
Many thanks for your help, Hans.
That was it. Deleting the cache made luajittex find all fonts.
I assume there my be something wrong on my setup, since I cannot reload
font cache at /home/user/, but I can at any other directory.
I get this message at /home/user:
system | lua | compiling
'/var/cache/ctxbeta/texmf-cache/luatex-cache/context/5fe67e0bfe781ce0dde776fb1556f32e/fonts/data/names.tma'
into
'/var/cache/ctxbeta/texmf-cache/luatex-cache/context/5fe67e0bfe781ce0dde776fb1556f32e/fonts/data/names.tmc'
system | lua | dumping
'/var/cache/ctxbeta/texmf-cache/luatex-cache/context/5fe67e0bfe781ce0dde776fb1556f32e/fonts/data/names.tma'
into
'/var/cache/ctxbeta/texmf-cache/luatex-cache/context/5fe67e0bfe781ce0dde776fb1556f32e/fonts/data/names.tmc'
stripped
fonts | names | warnings are disabled (tracker
'fonts.warnings').../ctxbeta/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/font-syn.lua:723:
attempt to index field 'treatments' (a nil value)
I guess I have to delete something at my home directory, but I don't
know what.
Just in case it helps, I attach the verbose output.
Many thanks for your help again,
Pablo
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resolvers | resolving | creating instance
resolvers | resolving | variable 'SELFAUTOLOC' set to
'/opt/ctxbeta/tex/texmf-linux/bin'
resolvers | resolving | variable 'SELFAUTODIR' set to
'/opt/ctxbeta/tex/texmf-linux'
resolvers | resolving | variable 'SELFAUTOPARENT' set to
'/opt/ctxbeta/tex'
resolvers | resolving | variable 'TEXMFCNF' set to ''
resolvers | resolving | variable 'TEXMF' set to ''
resolvers | resolving | variable 'TEXOS' set to 'texmf-linux'
resolvers | resolving |
resolvers | resolving | using configuration specification
'home:texmf/web2c;{selfautoloc:,selfautoloc:/share/texmf-local/web2c,selfautoloc:/share/texmf/web2c,selfautoloc:/texmf-local/web2c,selfautoloc:/texmf/web2c,selfautodir:,selfautodir:/share/texmf-local/web2c,selfautodir:/share/texmf/web2c,selfautodir:/texmf-local/web2c,selfautodir:/texmf/web2c,selfautoparent:/../texmf-local/web2c,selfautoparent:,selfautoparent:/share/texmf-local/web2c,selfautoparent:/share/texmf/web2c,selfautoparent:/texmf-local/web2c,selfautoparent:/texmf/web2c}'
resolvers | resolving |
resolvers | resolving | looking for 'texmfcnf.lua' on given path
'/home/ousia/texmf/web2c' from specification 'home:texmf/web2c'
resolvers | resolving | looking for 'texmfcnf.lua' on weird path
'/opt/ctxbeta/tex/texmf-linux/bin/' from specification 'selfautoloc:'
resolvers | resolving | looking for 'texmfcnf.lua' on weird path
'/opt/ctxbeta/tex/texmf-linux/bin/share/texmf-local/web2c' from specification
'selfautoloc:/share/texmf-local/web2c'
resolvers | resolving | looking for 'texmfcnf.lua' on weird path
'/opt/ctxbeta/tex/texmf-linux/bin/share/texmf/web2c' from specification
'selfautoloc:/share/texmf/web2c'
resolvers | resolving | looking for 'texmfcnf.lua' on weird path
'/opt/ctxbeta/tex/texmf-linux/bin/texmf-local/web2c' from specification
'selfautoloc:/texmf-local/web2c'
resolvers | resolving | looking for 'texmfcnf.lua' on weird path
'/opt/ctxbeta/tex/texmf-linux/bin/texmf/web2c' from specification
'selfautoloc:/texmf/web2c'
resolvers | resolving | looking for 'texmfcnf.lua' on weird path
'/opt/ctxbeta/tex/texmf-linux/' from specification 'selfautodir:'
resolvers | resolving | looking for 'texmfcnf.lua' on weird path
'/opt/ctxbeta/tex/texmf-linux/share/texmf-local/web2c' from specification
'selfautodir:/share/texmf-local/web2c'
resolvers | resolving | looking for 'texmfcnf.lua' on weird path
'/opt/ctxbeta/tex/texmf-linux/share/texmf/web2c' from specification
'selfautodir:/share/texmf/web2c'
resolvers | resolving | looking for 'texmfcnf.lua' on weird path
'/opt/ctxbeta/tex/texmf-linux/texmf-local/web2c' from specification
'selfautodir:/texmf-local/web2c'
resolvers | resolving | looking for 'texmfcnf.lua' on weird path
'/opt/ctxbeta/tex/texmf-linux/texmf/web2c' from specification
'selfautodir:/texmf/web2c'
resolvers | resolving | looking for 'texmfcnf.lua' on given path
'/opt/ctxbeta/tex/../texmf-local/web2c' from specification
'selfautoparent:/../texmf-local/web2c'
resolvers | resolving | looking for 'texmfcnf.lua' on weird path
'/opt/ctxbeta/tex/' from specification 'selfautoparent:'
resolvers | resolving | looking for 'texmfcnf.lua' on given path
[NTG-context] rebuild font cache
Hi there, after installing a new beta this morning, I'm afraid that ConTeXt isn't able to find the installed fonts on my system (path is added to setuptex). It isn't the first time I experience this. I solved this in the past rebuilding the font cache. But now it doesn't work. mtxrun --script fonts --reload fonts | names | warnings are disabled (tracker 'fonts.warnings').../ctxbeta/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/font-syn.lua:723: attempt to index field 'treatments' (a nil value) How can I force the font cache to be rebuild? Many thanks for your help, Pablo -- http://www.ousia.tk ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] rebuild font cache
On Sun, Jun 9, 2013 at 1:25 PM, Pablo Rodríguez oi...@web.de wrote: Hi there, after installing a new beta this morning, I'm afraid that ConTeXt isn't able to find the installed fonts on my system (path is added to setuptex). It isn't the first time I experience this. I solved this in the past rebuilding the font cache. But now it doesn't work. mtxrun --script fonts --reload fonts | names | warnings are disabled (tracker 'fonts.warnings').../ctxbeta/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/font-syn.lua:723: attempt to index field 'treatments' (a nil value) How can I force the font cache to be rebuild? mtxrun --script fonts --reload is ok here -- luigi ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] rebuild font cache
On 09/06/13 15:29, luigi scarso wrote: On Sun, Jun 9, 2013 at 1:25 PM, Pablo Rodríguez wrote: mtxrun --script fonts --reload fonts | names | warnings are disabled (tracker 'fonts.warnings').../ctxbeta/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/font-syn.lua:723: attempt to index field 'treatments' (a nil value) How can I force the font cache to be rebuilt? mtxrun --script fonts --reload is ok here After reinstalling ConTeXt Standalone, system installed fonts don't work either. If I try to rebuild the font cache, here is what I get: $ mtxrun --script fonts --reload cannot open : No such file or directory This happens after changing in tex/texmf/web2c/texmfcnf.lua: TEXMFCACHE = /var/cache/ctxbeta/texmf-cache, And if I try to compile a document with luajittext I get the following error: mtx-context | error, no format found with name: cont-en, aborting In the meantime, I have a single user installation that does the job, Is there no way to fix my system-wide installation? Many thanks for your help, Pablo -- http://www.ousia.tk ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] rebuild font cache
On Sun, Jun 9, 2013 at 5:57 PM, Pablo Rodríguez oi...@web.de wrote: On 09/06/13 15:29, luigi scarso wrote: On Sun, Jun 9, 2013 at 1:25 PM, Pablo Rodríguez wrote: mtxrun --script fonts --reload fonts | names | warnings are disabled (tracker 'fonts.warnings').../ctxbeta/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/font-syn.lua:723: attempt to index field 'treatments' (a nil value) How can I force the font cache to be rebuilt? mtxrun --script fonts --reload is ok here After reinstalling ConTeXt Standalone, system installed fonts don't work either. http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Fonts_in_LuaTeX#Building_the_font_database If I try to rebuild the font cache, here is what I get: $ mtxrun --script fonts --reload cannot open : No such file or directory This happens after changing in tex/texmf/web2c/texmfcnf.lua: TEXMFCACHE = /var/cache/ctxbeta/texmf-cache, And if I try to compile a document with luajittext I get the following error: mtx-context | error, no format found with name: cont-en, aborting In the meantime, I have a single user installation that does the job, Is there no way to fix my system-wide installation? why don't you use /opt and put all under /opt/context without modifying anything ? -- luigi ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] rebuild font cache
On Sun, 9 Jun 2013, Pablo Rodríguez wrote: On 09/06/13 15:29, luigi scarso wrote: On Sun, Jun 9, 2013 at 1:25 PM, Pablo Rodríguez wrote: mtxrun --script fonts --reload fonts | names | warnings are disabled (tracker 'fonts.warnings').../ctxbeta/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/font-syn.lua:723: attempt to index field 'treatments' (a nil value) How can I force the font cache to be rebuilt? mtxrun --script fonts --reload is ok here After reinstalling ConTeXt Standalone, system installed fonts don't work either. If I try to rebuild the font cache, here is what I get: $ mtxrun --script fonts --reload cannot open : No such file or directory This happens after changing in tex/texmf/web2c/texmfcnf.lua: TEXMFCACHE = /var/cache/ctxbeta/texmf-cache, And if I try to compile a document with luajittext I get the following error: mtx-context | error, no format found with name: cont-en, aborting In the meantime, I have a single user installation that does the job, Is there no way to fix my system-wide installation? Try running mtxrun --generate and then repeat the above steps. Aditya___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] rebuild font cache
On 6/9/2013 1:25 PM, Pablo Rodríguez wrote: Hi there, after installing a new beta this morning, I'm afraid that ConTeXt isn't able to find the installed fonts on my system (path is added to setuptex). It isn't the first time I experience this. I solved this in the past rebuilding the font cache. But now it doesn't work. mtxrun --script fonts --reload fonts | names | warnings are disabled (tracker 'fonts.warnings').../ctxbeta/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/font-syn.lua:723: attempt to index field 'treatments' (a nil value) looks like you mix of old and new code - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] rebuild font cache
On 09/06/13 18:15, Aditya Mahajan wrote: This happens after changing in tex/texmf/web2c/texmfcnf.lua: TEXMFCACHE = /var/cache/ctxbeta/texmf-cache, Try running mtxrun --generate and then repeat the above steps. Many thanks for your reply, Aditya. If I rebuild the font cache as root, I get: # mtxrun --script fonts --reload fonts | names | warnings are disabled (tracker 'fonts.warnings').../ctxbeta/tex/texmf-context/tex/context /base/font-syn.lua:723: attempt to index field 'treatments' (a nil value) If I rebuild the font cache as user, I get: $ mtxrun --script fonts --reload fonts | names | unable to access database cache fonts | names | accessing the data table failed Many thanks for your help, Pablo -- http://www.ousia.tk ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] rebuild font cache
On 09/06/13 18:39, Hans Hagen wrote: On 6/9/2013 1:25 PM, Pablo Rodríguez wrote: But now it doesn't work. mtxrun --script fonts --reload fonts | names | warnings are disabled (tracker 'fonts.warnings').../ctxbeta/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/font-syn.lua:723: attempt to index field 'treatments' (a nil value) looks like you mix of old and new code Many thanks for your reply, Hans. I suspected that too, but I didn't find luatex-cache at /home. Fonts are found fine now, but I cannot rebuild the font cache (as I replied to Aditya). Many thanks for your help, Pablo -- http://www.ousia.tk ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Last standalone version suddenly will not load user module
Hello ConTeXist.
For several years, I use very often my library for processing CSV
tables. Even 2 months ago worked flawlessly in both versions (standalone
version and ConTeXt TeXLive 2012). I am update standalone version fairly
often (at least one times for two months).
Unfortunately, today I found out that my latest standalone version fails
to load the library and the compilation is complete with an error message.
I find now that I can not detect and correct a problem in the library.
Maybe in it any longer unsupported commands. Can someone be read from
the attached log file?
Or I'll have to conserve the previous version of the standalone for my
ConTeXt applications?
I can, if necessary, to send my module...
Thanx Jaroslav Hajtmar
Here is content of my log file ... :
C:\$~1da\SKOLA\2012-2013\pz2013context --autopdf x
mtx-context | warning: no (local) file './x', proceeding
mtx-context | run 1: luatex
--fmt=C:/context/tex/texmf-cache/luatex-cache/context/5fe67e0bfe781ce0dde776fb1556f32e/formats/luatex/cont-en
--jobname=x
--lua=C:/context/tex/texmf-cache/luatex-cache/context/5fe67e0bfe781ce0dde776fb1556f32e/formats/luatex/cont-en.lui
--no-parse-first-line --c:autopdf --c:currentrun=1
--c:fulljobname=./x --c:input=./x --c:kindofrun=1
--c:maxnofruns=8 cont-yes.mkiv
This is LuaTeX, Version beta-0.77.0-2013053109 (rev 4635)
\write18 enabled.
(C:/context/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/cont-yes.mkiv
ConTeXt ver: 2013.06.04 21:26 MKIV beta fmt: 2013.6.4 int:
english/english
system 'cont-new.mkiv' loaded
(C:/context/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/cont-new.mkiv)
system files jobname 'x', input './x', result 'x'
fontslatin modern fonts are not preloaded
languageslanguage 'en' is active
(C:/$~1da/SKOLA/2012-2013/pz2013/x.tex
fontstypescripts unknown library 'loc'
fontstypescripts unknown library 'cmr'
fontspreloading latin modern fonts (third stage)
{C:/context/tex/texmf/fonts/map/dvips/lm/lm-math.map}{C:/context/tex/texmf/fonts/map/dvips/lm/lm-rm.map}{C:/context/tex/texmf-context/fonts/map/pdftex/context/mkiv-base.map}
fonts'fallback modern rm 11pt' is loaded
resolversmodules 'hl2t-scancsv' is loaded
(../texlibrary//hl2t-scancsv.mkiv
loading ConTeXt User Module / ScanCSV
! LuaTeX error [string \directlua ]:80: invalid escape sequence near '\{'.
system tex error on line 415 in file
../texlibrary//hl2t-scancsv.mkiv: LuaTeX error ...
405
406 if temptotempnumrows then tempto=tempnumrows end
407 if tempfromtempnumrows then tempfrom=1 end
408 tempfromI=tempfrom-1
409
410
tex.sprint(tex.ctxcatcodes,'\\newcount\\tempfrom\\tempfrom='..tostring(tempfrom))
--
411
tex.sprint(tex.ctxcatcodes,'\\newcount\\tempfromI\\tempfromI='..tostring(tempfromI))
--
412
tex.sprint(tex.ctxcatcodes,'\\newcount\\tempto\\tempto='..tostring(tempto))
--
413 end -- function thirddata.scancsv.paramcontrol(from, to)
414
415 \stopluacode
416
417 %D \section{MACRO DEFINITIONS}
418
419 \def\printline{\ctxlua{thirddata.scancsv.printline()}\par}
420 \def\printall{\ctxlua{thirddata.scancsv.printall()}\par}
421
422 \def\csvreport{
423 \ctxlua{thirddata.scancsv.csvreport()}
424 }
425
inserted text ...ion thirddata.scancsv.paramcontrol(from, to)
}
\luat_start_lua_code_indeed ...nd \directlua {#1}}
l.415 \stopluacode
? ) (../texlibrary/lib-lua.tex)
! LuaTeX error [string \directlua ]:1: attempt to call field
'opencsvfile' (a nil value).
system tex error on line 207 in file
C:/$~1da/SKOLA/2012-2013/pz2013/x.tex: LuaTeX error ...
197
198 \podpisreditele
199
200 \page
201 }
202
203 \def\lineaction{\printaction}
204
205 \starttext
206
207 \filelineaction{rozh_4lneprijat-nesplnil.csv}
208
209 \stoptext
210
211
212
\dodoopencsvfile ...ata.scancsv.opencsvfile(#1)}
\else \ctxlua
{thirddata
argument \opencsvfile {rozh_4lneprijat-nesplnil.csv}
\doloopaction
\firstoftwoarguments #1#2n-#1
\doloopLineaction ...ion {\lineaction }{#2}{#3
to be read again
l.207 \filelineaction{rozh_4lneprijat-nesplnil.csv}
? ! LuaTeX error [string \directlua ]:1: attempt to call field
'opencsvfile' (a nil value).
system tex error on line 207 in file
C:/$~1da/SKOLA/2012-2013/pz2013/x.tex: LuaTeX error ...
197
198 \podpisreditele
199
200 \page
201 }
202
203 \def\lineaction{\printaction}
204
205 \starttext
206
207 \filelineaction{rozh_4lneprijat-nesplnil.csv}
208
209 \stoptext
210
211
212
\dodoopencsvfile ...irddata.scancsv.opencsvfile()}
\fi
to be read again
\doifsomethingelse
\doloopAction ...-\opencsvfile \doifsomethingelse
[NTG-context] Bibliography: spacing in cite, lettering of repeated years
I am just starting with the bibliography module and ran the following test:
\cite[authoryear,left=(yes: ,right=; Rk)][frank98foundations] here,
\cite[author][frank98foundations], then \cite[year][frank98foundations], then
\cite{otrosina88isozyme,frank91ecological,frank98foundations,abraham82dynamics:}
said and then { \cite[otrosina88isozyme]} commented and then
\cite{abraham82dynamics:}
With my setup, that gave:
(yes: Frank 1998; Rk) here, Frank, then 1998, then (Otrosina et al. 1988; Frank
1991c,1998; Abraham and Shaw 1982) said and then (Otrosina et al. 1988)
commented and then (Abraham and Shaw 1982)
I give more on setup below.
My three issues:
1. The space after the period in et al. stretches, which does not look right.
I tried modifying the otherstext field in various ways, but could not get a
working solution. Any advice?
2. With the compress option on for authoryears, the dates 1991c,1998 are
correctly combined in the second set, but I would like a space as 1991c, 1998
instead of 1991c,1998.
3. The citations listed here are all of the ones in the current document. The
date 1991c should be 1991, without a letter, because there is neither 1991a nor
1991b. Is there a way to get consistent letter of repeated years, such that no
letter is present without repeat, and the letters are given in the order in
which they appear in the text?
---
I am new to ConTeXt, and started by copying someone else' environment. Here
are the relevant parts:
\usemodule[bib]
\setupbibtex[database={main}]
\setuppublications
[alternative=apa,
sorttype=bbl,
refcommand=authoryears,
criterium=text,
numbering=no]
\setupcite
[year]
[pubsep={, },
lastpubsep={ and },
compress=yes,
inbetween={},
left={},
right={}]
\setupcite
[author]
[pubsep={, },
lastpubsep={ and },
compress=yes,
inbetween={},
left={},
right={}]
\setupcite
[authoryears]
[pubsep={; },
% otherstext={ et al. }, % cannot get that to work
% \c!otherstext={ et al.},
lastpubsep={; },
compress=yes,
inbetween={ },
left={(},
right={)}]
Steve
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Re: [NTG-context] Percent symbol inside \type{}?
I have used a new subject line. If you see any problem that makes Changing the subject line is not enough. If you are reading another email sent to the list, and you press reply or something similar, the email you send will contain instructions to link it to the earlier email, and many mailers will display them as one thread (see attached image that shows how it is displayed in my mailer). I suspect that's what you've done here. Technically, the problem is that your email's headers contain a field References, which they shouldn't; but from a usage point of view the easiest is to simply start a new thread by using the compose feature of your mailer, or equivalent. As I see that you're using Thunderbird, I'm surprised that it doesn't display the emails in one thread, by the way. Arthur attachment: email-thread.png___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] A simpler way to make a bibliography
After struggling with all the programming prescribed by Context to
set up a bibliography, and examining a few dozen *.bib, *.bst and
a *bbl file, I decided to do things the simple way. My concept
is, that instead of creating a *bib file I could with the same
amount of effort create a plain text file to be imported directly into
my Context file. I studied the bibliography of The Chicago
Manual of Style to determine the order, punctuation and format. My
file is called book.foo. Now if I choose to use some of these entries
in another book a simple cut and paste between two editor sessions
will do. For ease in editing I put each item in each entry on a
separate line. TeX/Context will take care of puttng them
together in a paragraph.
Of course this lacks the generality of the bibtex approach. But I
don't need all that flexibilty.
None of the current biblio styles specified for Context incorporate the
ISBN field. So I just put it at the end of each entry preceded by
a \crlf.
Without further ado here is the book.foo file:
--
\chapter{References}
%authors. title. city: publisher, year\crlf
%isbn
Bah, Tavmjong.
{\it Inkscape: Guide to a Vector Drawing Program}.
Upper Saddle River, New Jersey:
Prentice-Hall,
2011 \crlf
ISBN 978-0-13-276414-8
Culleton, John R. Jr.
{\it Create Book Covers with Scribus} (pdf e-book).
Eldersburg, Maryland:
Wexford Press,
2012 \crlf
ISBN 978-1-60019-002-5
Drew, Ned and Paul Sternberger.
{\it By its Cover: Modern American Book Design}.
New York:
Princeton Architectural Press,
2005\crlf
ISBN 978-1-56898-497-1
Kirsanov, Dimitry.
{\it The Book of Inkscape\trademark : The Definitive Guide to the
Free Graphics Editor}.
San Francisco:
No Starch Press,
2009\crlf
ISBN 978-159327-181-7
Powers, Alan.
{\it Front Cover: Great Book Jacket and Cover Design}.
London:
Mitchell Beazley,
2006\crlf
ISBN 978-1-84533-242-6
---
If by chance an entry ends up split between two pages a simple
\page[yes] command can be inserted. I considered instead putting a
\goodbreak between entries but figured it wasn't worth the
bother. Since I call this fragment a \chapter it is listed in the
TOC. I had to put \whitespace[medium] right after the
\startbackmatter command just as I did after \startbodymatter.
for my purposes for this task simple is better and much faster.
--
John Culleton
Wexford Press
Free list of books for self-publishers:
http://wexfordpress.net/shortlist.html
PDF e-book: Create Book Covers with Scribus
available at http://www.booklocker.com/books/4055.html
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[NTG-context] Lucida doesn't work in TL 2013 / latest ConTeXt
Hi,
in TL 2013 neither \setupbodyfont[lucida] nor \setupbodyfont[lucidanova] works.
The first one gives:
!LuaTeX error: Invalid local font in font lbr!
== Fatal error occurred, no output PDF file produced!
and the other one complains about
! Math error: parameter \Umathquad\displaystyle is not set.
(I've set export TEXMFLOCAL=/path/to/texmf/with/both/lucidas.)
When trying the same with latest distribution I get
! LuaTeX error .../context/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/math-act.lua:101:
attempt to perform arithmetic on field 'size' (a nil value)
stack traceback:
.../context/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/math-act.lua:101: in
function 'mathematics_checkprivateparameters'
[string local mathematics_initializeparameters = math...]:10: in
function 'runner'
.../context/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/math-act.lua:39: in
function 'assignmathparameters'
.../context/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/math-vfu.lua:917: in
function .../context/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/math-vfu.lua:537
(...tail calls...)
.../context/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/font-def.lua:423: in
function 'read'
.../context/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/font-ctx.lua:947: in
function 'definefont_two'
[string \directlua ]:1: in main chunk.
system tex error on line 52 in file
/Users/mojca/context/gnuplot/mojca/texmf/doc/context/third/gnuplot/gnuplot-context-doc.tex:
LuaTeX error ...
and with lucidanova I get the same error as in TeX Live.
I'm using \sometxt{} inside metapost code to draw labels, so maybe
that's connected.
Mojca
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Re: [NTG-context] Lucida doesn't work in TL 2013 / latest ConTeXt
I'm sorry. I was pointing TEXMFLOCAL to the wrong (older) version of
fonts without OT in the filename.
However, the Type1 fonts still don't work.
Mojca
On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 1:31 PM, Mojca Miklavec wrote:
Hi,
in TL 2013 neither \setupbodyfont[lucida] nor \setupbodyfont[lucidanova]
works.
The first one gives:
!LuaTeX error: Invalid local font in font lbr!
== Fatal error occurred, no output PDF file produced!
and the other one complains about
! Math error: parameter \Umathquad\displaystyle is not set.
(I've set export TEXMFLOCAL=/path/to/texmf/with/both/lucidas.)
When trying the same with latest distribution I get
! LuaTeX error
.../context/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/math-act.lua:101:
attempt to perform arithmetic on field 'size' (a nil value)
stack traceback:
.../context/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/math-act.lua:101: in
function 'mathematics_checkprivateparameters'
[string local mathematics_initializeparameters = math...]:10: in
function 'runner'
.../context/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/math-act.lua:39: in
function 'assignmathparameters'
.../context/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/math-vfu.lua:917: in
function .../context/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/math-vfu.lua:537
(...tail calls...)
.../context/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/font-def.lua:423: in
function 'read'
.../context/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/font-ctx.lua:947: in
function 'definefont_two'
[string \directlua ]:1: in main chunk.
system tex error on line 52 in file
/Users/mojca/context/gnuplot/mojca/texmf/doc/context/third/gnuplot/gnuplot-context-doc.tex:
LuaTeX error ...
and with lucidanova I get the same error as in TeX Live.
I'm using \sometxt{} inside metapost code to draw labels, so maybe
that's connected.
Mojca
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