All the Mazda advertising you see here is developed and produced by
Americans for the American market. Doner Advertising in Southfield,
Michigan and Irvine, California is their agency.
Paul
On Aug 27, 2009, at 10:46 PM, Doug Franklin wrote:
Paul Stenquist wrote:
Although I don't think
paul stenquist wrote:
All the Mazda advertising you see here is developed and produced by
Americans for the American market. Doner Advertising in Southfield,
Michigan and Irvine, California is their agency.
That apparently doesn't always translate into them knowing how to
communicate their
No, it doesn't.
On Aug 28, 2009, at 8:30 AM, Doug Franklin wrote:
paul stenquist wrote:
All the Mazda advertising you see here is developed and produced by
Americans for the American market. Doner Advertising in Southfield,
Michigan and Irvine, California is their agency.
That apparently
From: Doug Franklin
Paul Stenquist wrote:
The Mazda 6 launch ran late last year. The zoom zoom kid appeared only
in the first spot where the car drove into a stadium. It was a head
scratcher. Someone told me later that it was meant to say there was a
new player in the arena. The rest of
On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 1:14 PM, John Sessomsjsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote:
I'd have stayed with Mazda if they'd had a model comparable to the Focus
Wagon, but the Mazda 5 just wouldn't do it. Would have meant a big sacrifice
in gas mileage.
Which is kinda ironic given that the Focus Wagon is
On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 01:27:47PM -0400, Adam Maas wrote:
On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 1:14 PM, John Sessomsjsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote:
I'd have stayed with Mazda if they'd had a model comparable to the Focus
Wagon, but the Mazda 5 just wouldn't do it. Would have meant a big sacrifice
in gas
Larry Colen wrote:
Nowdays, ours are too. It has become what production was 30-40 years
ago. Also, with the economy, I hear that SM only has fields of 35-40
cars rather than 65-70.
At the last race I worked, which was back in February, the turnout was
better than expected, but the Spec Miata
Ken Waller wrote:
Hard to come up with another car manufacturer that currently pushes
their involvement in motor sport more than Mazda, at least in the
popular media stream.
Well, they push it for current racers, they push it in auto and racing
related media, but aside from the one
Paul Stenquist wrote:
Although I don't
think bizarre was a goal. It just ended up that way. They were meant
to suggest a kind of youthful delight with a car that performs well.
You see, you're illustrating my point, even though even I didn't really
realize it. Basically, I think they need
- Original Message -
From: Doug Franklin
Subject: Re: photographing outdoor car shows
Excuse my French, but if that's reality we are so totally fucked it'd
probably be a blessing if the human race just ended now.
Nah, just a select group of North Americans (non of whom are PDML
Charles Robinson wrote:
You don't remember the It's a Great Little Car jingles?? Actually,
that specific line is all I can remember. But I owned a GLC and it
was... a great little car.
Not even the ghost of an echo, or an echo of a ghost, or whatever.
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Larry Colen wrote:
boing, boing, boing ... hmmm
OK, that one I remember, now that you mention it. The psychologists and
such would say that I have recognition but not recall: if you mention
it, I will remember, but I can't come up with it on my own. In other
words, not independently
William Robb wrote:
Nah, just a select group of North Americans (non of whom are PDML
members, I should add)
Not just North Americans.
Imagine the sound of a pump-action shotgun's action operating. Which,
by the way, is the scariest sound in the world for a burglar in the US
since about
paul stenquist wrote:
I'm sure I'd be dangerous in a real race car.
Mark!
Refreshing honesty, there.
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On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 11:28:20PM -0400, Doug Franklin wrote:
Larry Colen wrote:
The reason that we don't run Spec Miata is that, in the southeast, at
least, they tend to tear up a lot of bodywork and a nontrivial number of
cars. The first SM race we ever saw, 54 cars took the green flag
Ford doesn't get directly involved in Mazda advertising, although
there may be some general directives. The most limiting factor is
probably a relatively small budget. I worked on the Mazda6 launch, but
left before it was complete. I know many folk labored long hours to
come up with a
Actually, the engine in the VW is in the same place as the Porsches
relative to the rear axle, and the first rear-engined Porsches were
basically just VWs.
Paul
On Aug 26, 2009, at 1:07 AM, P. J. Alling wrote:
That only works in a Porsche because it's so well balanced. Don't
even try that
ane the first rear engine Porsches were very dangerous cars. If you
removed the spare tire from a VW type 1, you could do wheelies with a
stock 1600cc engine, more than enough to get you in a lot of trouble.
Put a bigger engine in the back, think about it, same effect. Later
Porschs were
It wasn't until the 1969 introduction of the B Series 911 that the
geometry of the car changed from that of the early VW bug. The
drivetrain configuration of the first 911 was identical to the 356
that preceded it save for the two extra cylinders. The 912, with a
four banger, was basically
I second that, my daily driver for four year was a type 1 with a
fibreglass flip front, only enough metal left to support tank and
front axle (and with a rear swingaxle to make matters worse). Not
wanting to add the weight I had just shaved off, I put one 195/50/15s
on the front and lowered the
paul stenquist wrote:
What they finally chose was bland and
lifeless, and it barely ran.
Maybe the problem is who's doing the choosing. :-)
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Larry Colen wrote:
That's a lot worse than around here. In a 70 car field, figure that
two will badly crunch, and a few more will be pranged.
Thank goodness, it's gotten a lot better around the southeast the last
two or three years. I think they've weeded out some of the weekend
warriors
Paul, Have a pissing match with somebody else. I worked on them I
restored them, nothing I have said has contradicted any of the things
you've posted and I dare say that someone, me, who tore down and rebuilt
a couple of four cylinder air cooled power plants, and helped drop and
re-install
I find it amusing that a civil discussion leaves you so distraught.
Anger management is perhaps in order.
Paul
On Aug 26, 2009, at 12:00 PM, P. J. Alling wrote:
Paul, Have a pissing match with somebody else. I worked on them I
restored them, nothing I have said has contradicted any of the
On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 11:16:26AM -0400, Doug Franklin wrote:
Larry Colen wrote:
That's a lot worse than around here. In a 70 car field, figure that
two will badly crunch, and a few more will be pranged.
Thank goodness, it's gotten a lot better around the southeast the last
two or
On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 12:00:40PM -0400, P. J. Alling wrote:
Paul, Have a pissing match with somebody else. I worked on them I
Who peed in your wheaties this morning? I don't think even The Maestro
was quite as touchy about discussing early Porsches.
restored them, nothing I have said has
Paul, your discussion wasn't civil it was condescending. I made a
comment, you saw fit to correct me twice, repeating yourself as if it
were knowledge from on high,. on cars I have or more properly had,
intimate knowledge of from having disassembled large parts of them. I'm
not angered, I'm
share was reduced
to 13.4%
Kenneth Waller
http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f
- Original Message -
From: Doug Franklin jehosep...@mindspring.com
Subject: Re: photographing outdoor car shows
paul stenquist wrote:
I worked on Mazda advertising for a while. Dont any more. But I'm
surprised
Hmmm
On Aug 26, 2009, at 1:44 PM, P. J. Alling wrote:
Paul, your discussion wasn't civil it was condescending. I made a
comment, you saw fit to correct me twice, repeating yourself as if
it were knowledge from on high,. on cars I have or more properly
had, intimate knowledge of from
When was that Paul?
I thought the ZOOM, ZOOM. ZOOM with the little kid, was one of the better
recent programs
Kenneth Waller
http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f
- Original Message -
From: paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net
Subject: Re: photographing outdoor car shows
Ford
Actually its probably more about the different rear suspension in the
Porsche.
Kenneth Waller
http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f
- Original Message -
From: paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net
Subject: Re: photographing outdoor car shows
Actually, the engine in the VW is in the same
pnstenqu...@comcast.net
Subject: Re: photographing outdoor car shows
Ford doesn't get directly involved in Mazda advertising, although
there may be some general directives. The most limiting factor is
probably a relatively small budget. I worked on the Mazda6 launch,
but left before
Paul Stenquist wrote:
The Mazda 6 launch ran late last year. The zoom zoom kid appeared only
in the first spot where the car drove into a stadium. It was a head
scratcher. Someone told me later that it was meant to say there was a
new player in the arena. The rest of the spots were largely
I agree. Some of the early ones where the strange looking kid whispers
zoom zoom were kind of interesting in a bizarre way. Although I
don't think bizarre was a goal. It just ended up that way. They were
meant to suggest a kind of youthful delight with a car that performs
well.
Joe Isuzu
On Aug 26, 2009, at 16:23, Doug Franklin wrote:
As much as I like Mazda the company and the cars they produce, I
can't remember a single Mazda commercial, ever. I remember seeing
some, but not what was in them. As opposed to the Joe Isuzu
series, which I'll never forget.
You don't
On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 05:23:51PM -0400, Doug Franklin wrote:
As much as I like Mazda the company and the cars they produce, I can't
remember a single Mazda commercial, ever. I remember seeing some, but
not what was in them. As opposed to the Joe Isuzu series, which I'll
never forget.
On Aug 26, 2009, at 05:44 , P. J. Alling wrote:
ane the first rear engine Porsches were very dangerous cars. If you
removed the spare tire from a VW type 1, you could do wheelies with
a stock 1600cc engine...
What made the early VW and Porsche cars dangerous in the hands of
idiots was
Well, good point indeed. You have better control of reflections with the
polarizer. Still leaves a huge difference between light levels, and may
bring very bad patterns on windshields and windows on some scenes - I
think it shows stress patterns in tempered glass or something like that.
I
A polarizer is a big help. It doesn't eliminate the reflections, but it tames
them.
Rick
http://photo.net/photos/RickW
--- On Mon, 8/24/09, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote:
From: Larry Colen l...@red4est.com
Subject: Re: photographing outdoor car shows
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but it tames them.
Rick
http://photo.net/photos/RickW
--- On Mon, 8/24/09, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote:
From: Larry Colen l...@red4est.com
Subject: Re: photographing outdoor car shows
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
Date: Monday, August 24, 2009, 1:39 PM
Thanks folks for the advice
paul stenquist wrote:
But even the best polarizer muddies things a bit with diffusion. I use
them when I have to-- with black cars for example-- but I don't use them
on every car shoot.
On more modern cars, or older cars with more recent glasswork, it can
also cause some weirdness in the
Doug Franklin wrote:
On more modern cars, or older cars with more recent glasswork, it can
also cause some weirdness in the rendition of the glass. It wasn't
much of an issue before the 1980s or so, but after that, auto glass
often has some sort of coatings on it, presumably for glare
I did some less fun outdoor car photography today:
http://sfbay.craigslist.org/scz/cto/1342488179.html
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157622144936262/
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the second step is learning to throw away ones that are merely good.
Larry
Some nice shots here.
Tell us about the Miata. How does it differ from the stock vehicle?
Looks like an entertaining machine.
Paul
On Aug 25, 2009, at 10:26 PM, Larry Colen wrote:
I did some less fun outdoor car photography today:
http://sfbay.craigslist.org/scz/cto/1342488179.html
paul stenquist wrote:
Some nice shots here.
Tell us about the Miata. How does it differ from the stock vehicle?
Looks like an entertaining machine.
Hmmm. I'm not a Spec Miata guru (I run IT7 and SPU), and this is from
memory, but the gist of it is ...
Spec Miata is a relatively tightly
On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 10:45:15PM -0400, paul stenquist wrote:
Some nice shots here.
Tell us about the Miata. How does it differ from the stock vehicle?
Looks like an entertaining machine.
In gory detail:
http://www.specmiata.com/specifications.htm
In short:
The engine mods that I'm allowed
paul stenquist wrote:
Looks like an entertaining machine.
Oh, and /way/ entertaining. The Miata is entertaining, for a driver
anyway, in virtually any guise that doesn't include a trashed tranny or
a worn out motor. It was designed and built to be a drivers car, to be
an LBC (Little
Sounds like fun. A level playing field to be sure.
Speaking of street-driven race cars, I shot an interesting 98 Viper a
couple of weeks ago. It's tubbed and has a roll cage. The rear axles
are spooled, but the front suspension is stock. The engine has a stock
crank, pistons and rods. But
Larry Colen wrote:
The engine mods that I'm allowed on the 1.6 liter motor are:
Change the air filter
Remove the catalytic converter
Change the exhaust from the cat back
Oops, less than I thought, there.
I'm allowed to put in a specific Limited Slip Differential (not to
confuse it with
Sounds like a car I'd like to play with. I'm surprised it had enough
muscle to keep the tires spinning with the tail out. Brave on your part!
I'm no road racer, although when I was a journalist I got to drive a
lot of tracks, so I know how much fun it can be. My most critical
moment came at
I worked on Mazda advertising for a while. Dont any more. But I'm
surprised they haven't taken more advantage of their motorsports
support. It seems that would play well to their demographic.
Paul
On Aug 25, 2009, at 11:28 PM, Doug Franklin wrote:
Larry Colen wrote:
The engine mods that
paul stenquist wrote:
I worked on Mazda advertising for a while. Dont any more. But I'm
surprised they haven't taken more advantage of their motorsports
support. It seems that would play well to their demographic.
Man, you're not the only one. They've tried a couple of times but
without much
On Aug 25, 2009, at 20:38 , paul stenquist wrote:
My most critical moment came at Lime Rock where I got a 911 Turbo
pointing about 90 degrees off course in the first tight turn after
the end of the straight sweeper. I narrowly saved it, but the
Porsche PR guys weren't impressed.
As you
Joseph McAllister wrote:
In my mid-engined Porsche, it helped to punch it, but usually not enough
power to pull it off unless you punched it just before you would have
become aware it was going to spin. In other words, finish your braking
before you turn in. Have the power on as you turn into
On Aug 25, 2009, at 21:51 , Doug Franklin wrote:
Joseph McAllister wrote:
In my mid-engined Porsche, it helped to punch it, but usually not
enough power to pull it off unless you punched it just before you
would have become aware it was going to spin. In other words,
finish your braking
That only works in a Porsche because it's so well balanced. Don't even
try that in an old VW with an over sized engine. With the entire engine
hanging out behind the rear wheels you'll find out the hard way that it
doesn't quite work.
Joseph McAllister wrote:
On Aug 25, 2009, at 20:38 ,
Joseph McAllister wrote:
It's pretty hard to dirt track it with 98 HP in a 2130 lb car. The only
way to spin it was to still be braking when you turned in, though it
could be trail braked if your feet were narrow enough to be coming off
the brakes and putting on the gas at the same time. I
On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 10:06:51PM -0700, Joseph McAllister wrote:
On Aug 25, 2009, at 21:51 , Doug Franklin wrote:
Joseph McAllister wrote:
You're taking all the fun out of it! Brake /all/ the way in and
power /all/ the way out! :-) And if that's not working, dirt track
it! ;- It may
This is were Paul comes in,.:-)
Dave
On Sun, Aug 23, 2009 at 11:54 PM, Larry Colenl...@red4est.com wrote:
There was a hotrod show in Scotts Valley today (about 5 miles from my
house). I figured that it would be a good opportunity to park the
racecar near the show, with the for sale signs
Larry, I can't answer properly since I never succeded. But the night
images from Ralf come to mind... maybe the solutions are compromise
(keep the medium and bright colors, accept the blown highs and black
shadows) or bracket like hell and sandwich them later. I'll be watching
this closely -
Photographing cars under ideal situations is difficult enough, due to
the reflective nature of most paint. Shows are very difficult. The
best alternative on a sunny day is to shoot the cars backlit with
flash fill or a reflector. Sometimes white clouds opposite the sun
will give you a
Just re-checked the photos, and I believe you pretty much nailed the
subjects under the available conditions. One particular sample
(lrc27835) could benefit from a curve adjustment or some extra exposure,
at the price of blowing more of the white and red highlights - IMHO, I
mean. I tend to
Larry Colen wrote:
There was a hotrod show in Scotts Valley today (about 5 miles from my
house). I figured that it would be a good opportunity to park the
racecar near the show, with the for sale signs prominantly
displayed.
I didn't get any nibbles on my racecar, but I spent some time
Larry,
Love the last shot of the Caddy with the open hood.
Regards, Bob S.
On Sun, Aug 23, 2009 at 10:54 PM, Larry Colenl...@red4est.com wrote:
There was a hotrod show in Scotts Valley today (about 5 miles from my
house). I figured that it would be a good opportunity to park the
racecar near
Thanks folks for the advice, and positive comments.
On some levels it's nice to know that it is just a tough subject. On
the other hand, I had hoped that there was some little trick, that I
just hadn't figured out, that would magically make it all better.
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On Aug 24, 2009, at 10:39 , Larry Colen wrote:
Thanks folks for the advice, and positive comments.
On some levels it's nice to know that it is just a tough subject. On
the other hand, I had hoped that there was some little trick, that I
just hadn't figured out, that would magically make it all
I surprised that nobody except Bruce (or did I miss somebody
else's suggestion?) suggest to use a polarizer?
Paul, - I wouldn't believe you don't use a polarizer for shooting
cars, do you?
I've used a polarizer for similar purposes, although I wasn't
taking phoographs of cars per se, but the
I use a polarizer at times. But it has little to do with making bright
sun pics look good.
Paul
On Aug 24, 2009, at 7:15 PM, Igor Roshchin wrote:
I surprised that nobody except Bruce (or did I miss somebody
else's suggestion?) suggest to use a polarizer?
Paul, - I wouldn't believe you don't
Only as regards auto-focus. Manual still works as advertised.
On Aug 24, 2009, at 16:15 , Igor Roshchin wrote:
Larry, you most likely know this (but just in case), -
circular polarizers work better (compared to linear) with the
exponometry of SLRs.
Joseph McAllister
pentax...@mac.com
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There was a hotrod show in Scotts Valley today (about 5 miles from my
house). I figured that it would be a good opportunity to park the
racecar near the show, with the for sale signs prominantly
displayed.
I didn't get any nibbles on my racecar, but I spent some time
wandering about with my K20
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